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Lurker's (newbie's) Guide to Jumping onto The Rink

In case you didn't wade your way through all of the really great conversation from the recent Rink Love-in, I am pulling the following points from D'ohboy's outstanding comment to put together a user's guide for Lurkers who don't know how to take that first step.

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1) Keep it on-topic. Please don’t ask a question about Mike Green’s tattoos in a post about Tomas Fleischmann’s play as a center. If there’s a topic you’d really like to see addressed, ask about it in the Caps Clips or make a Fanpost. Fat_Daddyo made a FanPost [1/26/10] asking about Pythagorean Theorems for hockey and [D'ohboy] spent the better part of five evenings trying to come up with an answer for him. We’re like that around here.

2) Use proper spelling, punctuation and grammar. Honestly, it’s not that hard. We’re not going to berate you for making an it’s/its or their/they’re/there error, but if you resolutely refuse to use even basic punctuation or grammar it shows a lack of effort. Furthermore, SBN has a built-in spellchecker, so there really is no excuse. (This is obviously a little more flexible in the Game Threads, given the speed of the conversation.)

3) Try to ask things that aren’t easily Google-able. If you ask how many goals Jeff Schultz has, you’ll probably get this as a reply. If you ask why Jeff Schultz seems to be getting more media attention this year, you’ll probably get ten responses and you’ll start a conversation.

4) Don’t be afraid to go against the prevailing opinion here. But don’t get butt-hurt and pout or descend into ad hominem attacks when people don’t agree with you. If you do that, you’ll quickly end up as a running joke.

5) Keep it respectful. Asking "How can you be so stupid as to think that Chris Bourque will ever be an NHL player?" will probably get you dismissed out of hand. Asking, "Why do you think Chris Bourque will ever be more than an AHL All-Star?" will probably get a lengthy reply.

6) Don’t get discouraged. This is an extension of #4 – if nobody answers your question, or if they answer it in a way you don’t like, don’t give up. Ask a few more. You don’t become BFFs instantly with people in real life and this place is no different. If you follow steps 1-5, people won’t hold you at arm’s length forever.

7) Get an avatar. Avatars are one of the ways that commenters at The Rink are able to quickly recognize each other.  It also is a way to add a little personality to your profile, so don't take too long to add one or you'll (gently) hear about it.

8) Learn to use the formatting tools and preview your posts. The preview button is your friend and it will keep you out of trouble. Learn to embrace it. The formatting buttons are pretty self-explanatory. If you’re having problems, feel free to ask and someone (likely Your Nation’s Capital) will help you out.

9) At the risk of getting sued by Nike – JUST DO IT! Don’t be like [D'ohboy] with Lookout Landing. Don’t lurk for five years; it’s better on the inside, trust [us].

10) Turn the snark meter up to 11. Many (okay, most) of the denizens of this blog like snark more than is probably healthy, and most will usually respond with snark the majority of the time. Before you get butt-hurt about a response you get, assume that the replyer is trying to be funny in a sarcastic way. If you’re still bothered by it, ask if they meant that snarkily. Usually the answer is yes.

11) Walk the walk, talk the talk. You want to start being part of the Rink? Fine, but more’s expected of you than John/Jane Cap Fan. Carry the cause of informed discussion to the unwashed masses and don’t crap in the yards of other SBN sites if you decide to go over there. They’re passionate about their teams too, no need to troll elsewhere and/or be a sore winner.

It’s like when Barry Sanders scored touchdowns. He handed the ball to the ref like he’d been there before and is going there again.

12) In General Don't Be a Dumbass. Using epithets like "Cindy Crysby" and "Philthy" is a way of being a dumbass. So is observing that Crosby has d**k sucking lips. Whining that the refs/league/Bettman/whoever is biased or out to get the Caps is another. And, finally, if you’re going to carpet bomb a Caps player, make damned sure you have some actual evidence to back it up. (Particularly if it’s Jeff Schultz.)

A few notes:

Caps Clips is the (mostly) daily general thread. JP starts us off with savory links, the first thirty or so comments dissect said links, then the convo goes where it will. This is the space for randomness, but we like our random hockey-flavored.

Game Day Thread (aka GDT) usually drops two hours before a game. JP says, "Have at it, people", and we do. I wonder if he recognizes how cool that is. Make sure to stretch out your z-key finger ahead of time or you could be day-to-day for at least a week after. The GDT is pretty much done at the end of the game as we await the recap.

Recap Thread usually drops within 90 minutes of the end of each game. One of our esteemed overlords editors is tasked with watching the game and finding ten things to say about it. The discussion in the recap thread usually goes late into the night and picks up again in the morning. It is best when the recap thread sticks to the subject of that night’s game.

images If you’re going to put an image, especially a large one, in a thread, be sure to use a subject in your post, so that those who want to can click it and collapse your post, thus hiding the image.

Key commands (short-cuts):

Newbies – After you log in to Japers Rink/SBN you will notice that the comment section of each post consists of comments that are either yellow or white. Yellow comments are unread comments and white comments are those that have been marked as read. There are a number of button shortcuts you can use to help navigate the comments sections, listed below:

K allows you to scroll UP through the yellow comments without turning them white.

J and C buttons scrolls DOWN through the yellow comments without turning them white.

R button opens a reply to the comment that’s highlighted. You can also reply to a comment by pressing the REPLY link a comment.

X button turns a highlighted comment white without scrolling up or down.

Z button will simultaneously mark a comment white and tab forward.

[shift] –C will tab backwards.

[shift] -A will mark all comments white.

(if these keys aren't working, you may have your cursor in a text box and are inadvertently typing somewhere, in this case click an unused area of whitespace on the page and try again)

 

I now ask you, the Rink Commentariat, to add your additions to the guide and Rec those that are worthy.  Any that go green will be updated and added to the list. 

 

UPDATES: Edited for context.
Changes to #7 mine.
10) Added.
11) Added.
"A few notes" added. (minus the F&B Comment)
images note added.
12) Added.
Added Key Commands.

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Is there a word that means butt-hurt other than butt-hurt?

My ability to post is only surpassed by my ability to pinch pennies.

by jordanDC on Feb 1, 2010 2:38 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

You could use “offended” or “miffed” or “nettled”. Butt-hurt seemed like a reasonable adjective at the time, though.

No Alex, no ratings. Know Alex, know ratings.

by gotsparkly on Feb 1, 2010 2:46 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

nettled, nice.

My ability to post is only surpassed by my ability to pinch pennies.

by jordanDC on Feb 1, 2010 2:57 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Rec it if you like it, only green (or a reasonable proximity therein) is getting added!

PuckDaddy be damned, I'm putting CincoCinco on the back of a Schultz jersey!

by Chris meet Alex on Feb 1, 2010 6:14 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

If they work it right, close observation of Fehr & Balanced’s GDT posts will provide them with about 80% of their material.

You win the interwebs.

Damn! Looks like my women is on time.

by Bald Pollack on Feb 1, 2010 2:27 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I take exception to this. I’d say only about 72.3% of my material comes from F&B.

Otherwise true though ;) Nice work, all – this is a great guide! Feel like I needed a refresher on a few of these things myself…

by Becca H on Feb 1, 2010 4:30 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

That other 7.7% must be all the Poti and Theo stuff.

Now let's say you and I go toe to toe on bird law and see who comes out the victor.

by Fehr and Balanced on Feb 1, 2010 6:17 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Excellent additions!

Tho I personally feel like the F&B snark might be a bit too dismissive of our excellent “management”.

PuckDaddy be damned, I'm putting CincoCinco on the back of a Schultz jersey!

by Chris meet Alex on Feb 1, 2010 6:17 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

More a shout-out to F&B, and all in good fun. All the Rink staff have excellent insights, and I always look forward to seeing how they saw the game, especially as I’m working on my screencaps and trawling the innertubes for the Hard Hat.

The no-recap recap of last nights’ game was challenging though, since I didn’t see the game either in person or on teevee, and then no analysis. I practically had to make stuff up for my co-workers today.

IS KEPTIN NOW

by Your Nation's Capital on Feb 1, 2010 6:42 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Tho I personally feel like the F&B snark might be a bit too dismissive of our excellent "management".

Agreed. I felt uncomfortable (though flattered) about that line until Becca chimed in.

Now let's say you and I go toe to toe on bird law and see who comes out the victor.

by Fehr and Balanced on Feb 1, 2010 6:46 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

If they work it right, close observation of Fehr & Balanced’s GDT posts will provide them with about 80% of their material.

Damn, I’m going to have to start reading the GDTs. Or maybe there’s a simpler way…

Japers' Rink: Hockey blogging from the most powerful city in the world

by J.P. on Feb 1, 2010 8:36 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Press “F” to automatically go to the next F&B comment? support@sbn.com

Ovechkin = Green Backs

by red army line on Feb 2, 2010 8:39 AM EST up reply actions   3 recs

As someone who has recently stopped lurking and started commenting, I can say that it is quite the relief to have finally said something. Good list, I will stick to it.

Some people are like Slinkies, not really good for anything, but you still can't help but smile when you see one tumble down the stairs.

by Green_with_Envy on Feb 1, 2010 5:58 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

Welcome.

Nice sig.

Most of here are very friendly and don’t bite very infrequently unless that’s your thing… we don’t judge.

PuckDaddy be damned, I'm putting CincoCinco on the back of a Schultz jersey!

by Chris meet Alex on Feb 1, 2010 6:13 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Except Becca, she judges!

Tom Brady is Sidney Crosby, except Tom Brady has felt the touch of a woman, and has his own house.

by Ovechwin on Feb 1, 2010 6:32 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Same here. . .

I recently (within the last year or so) found this blog and instantly got hooked to it. It is loaded with great content and regular updates and the conversations are great. I finally started commenting a while ago because there aren’t many outlets for my thoughts since i live in enemy territory. The blog offers me the oppurtunity to get other like minded folks opinions, offer some of my own and get corrected or “enlightened” by friendly fire BEFORE I drop knowledge on all the Penguins fans I am surronded by.

by Lunatic Fringe on Feb 12, 2010 1:39 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

2) Use proper spelling, punctuation and grammar.

relieved capitalization didn’t make the list..

by Natty Bumppo on Feb 1, 2010 6:59 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Don’t fight the shift button, embrace it.

Tom Brady is Sidney Crosby, except Tom Brady has felt the touch of a woman, and has his own house.

by Ovechwin on Feb 1, 2010 7:24 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

BUT NOT TOO HARD!

"Camaraderie, that's what the Washington Capitals are all about."

by CapitalCentre on Feb 1, 2010 7:37 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Caps lock is lame, but holding shift while you type is super awesome.

Familiar Rapports: Bald Pollack, F&B, Gould Old Days.

Lobbies: Osala, Perreault, Erskine, Pothier, Neuvirth, Flash.

Fan of: Mean Lars Backstrom, Line Mashing, Cake.

by Whiter Mage on Feb 1, 2010 8:24 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Truer words never typed.

My ability to post is only surpassed by my ability to pinch pennies.

by jordanDC on Feb 1, 2010 10:06 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

first post and I was told to get an avatar (gently of course)

by jaytown99 on Feb 1, 2010 8:09 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

You’re braver than me. I didn’t dare de-lurk without a proper avatar, though I’m still awaiting a selection of smoked meats.

by bagace on Feb 1, 2010 8:34 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I never realized how vital they are.

by jaytown99 on Feb 1, 2010 8:46 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

The ragony and the rec’stasy of BP…

"You're gonna eat that g**d**n Koho, three!"

by fat_daddyo on Feb 1, 2010 11:09 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

and yet, you didn’t rec.

PuckDaddy be damned, I'm putting CincoCinco on the back of a Schultz jersey!

by Chris meet Alex on Feb 2, 2010 10:50 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, weird. It showed 0 recs until I clicked Rec. My bad.

PuckDaddy be damned, I'm putting CincoCinco on the back of a Schultz jersey!

by Chris meet Alex on Feb 2, 2010 10:50 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Like so!

Winterion Game Studios
Visit us online at : http://winterion.com

by winterion on Feb 1, 2010 10:22 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Why would anyone want to collapse that?

Of all our iniquities ignorance may be the worst

by Killer_Carlson on Feb 1, 2010 10:42 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

If I'm not mistaken

Using the subject line also makes you comment linkable if one were to say something particularly noteworthy (either good or bad). Having been schooled at Lookout Landing (the best SBN blog IMHO) I always use it.

Obstreperously Avatarless

by Edanger6 on Feb 2, 2010 12:02 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Subject Lines Rule

Ha! You post at LL?!?! Did you see the original comment this post stems from? It was all about how I’d been a lurker at LL since it was called Leone for Third – like over 5 years – and how I’d just posted there a few weeks ago for the first time and it’s better to take the risk and be a poster. (Sorry for the run-on sentence.)

Anyhow, LL and JR are certainly the top two on SBN…

There's a fine line between arrogance and ignorance and only I manage to erase that line.

by D'ohboy on Feb 2, 2010 12:25 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Apparently wrong on the subject line

just do it, or Graham will shit on you. Been reading LL for a few years. I think I started right after it moved to SBN and was linked to it through DailyKos. Read more than post, just like here. Also, the GDT’ need more GTE (Game Thread Emotion) ’round here.

From the LL Style Guide

Always use the subject line when making a comment. Even if it’s one word that leads into your post. There are a few reasons for this, among them being that it makes comments easy to hide if necessary (while at work, some people don’t want some of the more…shall we say, expressive images on their monitors for all to see), that it allows for easier moderation of comments, and that it just looks better.

5. Always format your sentences properly. “Properly” means capitalized first words of sentences and using commas, correct spelling, and correct punctuation. It also means using paragraph breaks, so that your long discourse can be readable (this rule may seem overly pedantic, but it’s pretty non-negotiable; if it does seem pedantic, you’re probably in the wrong place). It’s easy to do, and it makes the place a much better resource. And, last but not least, absolutely no text-speak. Among other things, that does include LOL, OMG, and especially +1

Obstreperously Avatarless

by Edanger6 on Feb 2, 2010 1:23 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

hmmm?

Second paragraph didn’t blockquote

Obstreperously Avatarless

by Edanger6 on Feb 2, 2010 1:24 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Paragraph 5.

I’m fully on-board with their paragraph 5.

Are you an M’s fan? Great off-season we’re having…

There's a fine line between arrogance and ignorance and only I manage to erase that line.

by D'ohboy on Feb 2, 2010 6:06 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

comments are linkable whether or not you use the subject line. if you click on the date line (“feb 1, 2010 12:02 PM EST” for your comment), you’ll get a new URL that can be copied and pasted as you please.

by Natty Bumppo on Feb 2, 2010 8:34 AM EST up reply actions   2 recs

As always, Natty with the ’nowledge.

There's a fine line between arrogance and ignorance and only I manage to erase that line.

by D'ohboy on Feb 2, 2010 10:46 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

What would we do without you Natty?

"You ever use smelling salts, every time you type a bad blog?" Brooks Laich

by CP2Devil on Feb 3, 2010 12:44 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I hate the subject line. One of my favorite things about the Rink is it’s one of the few SBN blogs where most of the commenters don’t use it unless it’s completely necessary.

"My face is my mask."

by jakeshapiro on Feb 2, 2010 1:15 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

concur, at Podium Cafe most of the posts are subject only. screw that noise

↑ ↑ ↓ ↓ ← → ← → b a (select) start

by renstar on Feb 2, 2010 6:41 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Nice sig!

PuckDaddy be damned, I'm putting CincoCinco on the back of a Schultz jersey!

by Chris meet Alex on Feb 3, 2010 12:30 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

My use of it in the subject line was an attempt at irony. I think it can get overdone. I’d prefer to limit it to the first post in a thread and any response that takes that thread in a fundamentally new direction.

There's a fine line between arrogance and ignorance and only I manage to erase that line.

by D'ohboy on Feb 4, 2010 8:47 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

There’s definitely acceptable team-bashing slang you can use. For example:
Mike Green can’t play defense!
Go Flyers!

"My face is my mask."

by jakeshapiro on Feb 2, 2010 1:17 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I would argue that’s not really team bashing, but troll bashing. Which is always fun (and instructive).

PuckDaddy be damned, I'm putting CincoCinco on the back of a Schultz jersey!

by Chris meet Alex on Feb 2, 2010 1:51 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Anyway, I’m not a very frequent commenter

It’d be good to see more of you, PDP. I always like what you bring.

Atta dinnin stick a who!

by Gould Old Days on Feb 9, 2010 11:30 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Thanks!—if I have something to say, I say it.

"I am ready for his provocations"

by PaintDrinkingPete on Feb 10, 2010 10:05 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Rec’d for much wisdom here.

Damn! Looks like my women is on time.

by Bald Pollack on Feb 10, 2010 7:49 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks, All

Sorry I didn’t get a chance to comment on this earlier. (I was busy at work today, then bike maintenance and a short trainer ride while watching the Pens-Sabres.)

Chris meet Alex – thanks for posting this. I hope that all of this encourages lurkers to be like that spy in that John Le CarrĂ© book. Wait a minute – that didn’t turn out too well for him. :)

Seriously, thanks to everyone.

There's a fine line between arrogance and ignorance and only I manage to erase that line.

by D'ohboy on Feb 2, 2010 12:29 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Great post, definitely recommendable to lurkers considering making the jump to commenters (scary!).

You know, the let me Google that for you link is truly underappreciated snark. I need to remember that for more online conversations.

"If you close your eyes in the NHL, you'll take one upside the head." - Alexander Semin

by mercurialwinger on Feb 3, 2010 12:14 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

What is the purpose of a rec?

by jaytown99 on Feb 3, 2010 2:02 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Signifies that you agree with or appreciate a particular comment. Then when people see it is rec’d they may look more closely at it. When a comment gets 5 recs it turns green and calls attention so that people skimming can find the good stuff quickly.

Sew up your heart, grow a pair, and watch hockey.

by Fehr and Balanced on Feb 3, 2010 3:46 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

simply that you recommend the comment for others. i think it’s fair to interpret it however you’d like to. but if you want people to see a particular comment above others around it, then rec it and it might eventually turn green.

by Natty Bumppo on Feb 3, 2010 7:24 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Just got to this now, but well done CmA! Man I wish ya’ll had one of these when i joined last year.

Every time Nicky scores a goal, an angel gets its wings.

by SeattleCapsFan on Feb 6, 2010 5:30 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Hey man what’s the deal with Mike Green’s Tattoos?

Familiar Rapports: Bald Pollack, F&B, Gould Old Days.

Lobbies: Osala, Perreault, Erskine, Pothier, Neuvirth, Flash.

Fan of: Mean Lars Backstrom, Line Mashing, Cake.

by Whiter Mage on Feb 8, 2010 12:17 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

This is an example of Snark, and should have probably been marked.

Familiar Rapports: Bald Pollack, F&B, Gould Old Days.

Lobbies: Osala, Perreault, Erskine, Pothier, Neuvirth, Flash.

Fan of: Mean Lars Backstrom, Line Mashing, Cake.

by Whiter Mage on Feb 8, 2010 11:18 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

cr0sbysux!

Pension Plan Puppets: A Toronto Maple Leafs blog and a group therapy session.
Like reading thoughts confined to 140 characters? I'm on Twitter too.

by PPP on Feb 10, 2010 7:55 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Nice. See kids, our friend from… elsewhere… gave us an example of #10.

PuckDaddy be damned, I'm putting CincoCinco on the back of a Schultz jersey!

by Chris meet Alex on Feb 11, 2010 5:25 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

How do you create/edit the italic text that appears above your username on comments?

by jaytown99 on Feb 14, 2010 8:51 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

click on your name tab (your profile) at the very top left of the page. then click “edit profile,” then write in a signature and press update.

by Natty Bumppo on Feb 14, 2010 9:12 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks. I was guessing it was in that section, but my first inclination was that the box was too large to be for that.

by jaytown99 on Feb 15, 2010 3:40 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

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