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Kind of a shame what Ford did to Jaguar. All their designs now remind me of a Taurus.

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by fat_daddyo on Dec 21, 2010 7:00 AM EST reply actions  

I thought it was a Mustang at first.

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by boutros23 on Dec 21, 2010 7:24 AM EST up reply actions  

Gorgeous

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by fat_daddyo on Dec 21, 2010 7:33 AM EST up reply actions  

Not so much

But probably profitable and with the ability to be driven for more than 3 consecutive days without breaking down.

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by fat_daddyo on Dec 21, 2010 7:36 AM EST up reply actions  

Disagree. That’s bad ass. And this is OT…

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by J.P. on Dec 21, 2010 7:37 AM EST up reply actions  

No offense intended and duly noted, respectively.

/end OT.

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by fat_daddyo on Dec 21, 2010 7:44 AM EST up reply actions  

Hey, if you wanna pick this up in the OTOT, I’m down. Gotta defend the Callum boys.

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by D'ohboy on Dec 21, 2010 10:10 AM EST up reply actions  

Not much more to say, really.

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by fat_daddyo on Dec 21, 2010 11:00 AM EST up reply actions  

Looks more like an Aston, but the XF looks like a Mondeo

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by sydtron on Dec 21, 2010 2:54 PM EST up reply actions  

In looking at Perrault’s streakiness, how much of that is on him this time around and how much on his linemates?

I know it is a small sample size, and 6 points in 9 games isn’t bad for this guy, but the whole 3 two point games and 6 games with nada is still concerning if it is mostly his own fault. However, when 2/3 of his points are goals, which really isn’t his strong point, I start to think that maybe it isn’t all on him.

Not to completely compare him to the other rookie center, they are similar in that they are both more likely to gain points by setting up a scorer rather than being a finisher themselves. I know that we often see #90 and the huge showing of skill and just shake our heads when his line can’t finish some beautiful setups. Has this been happening to Perrault as well? The kids have been kinda crazy lately, so my Caps watching has been more of having it on in the background and looking at the replays when I hear screaming from the announcers, so I can’t say if I’ve been missing plays or not.

All this being said, I would love to see Perrault earn a spot here…but he does need to earn it.

by HateOffSeason on Dec 21, 2010 7:38 AM EST reply actions  

IMO he hasn’t really been creating or getting quality chances in the no-point games.

Does it have to do with the lack of continuity in his linemates? Maybe. I don’t really know.

But lines will get shuffled during a long losing streak, and the disappearing act is not unprecedented. So we’ll just have to wait and see.

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by fat_daddyo on Dec 21, 2010 7:50 AM EST up reply actions  

IMO he hasn’t really been creating or getting quality chances in the no-point games.

Not sure this is true. The Caps have outchanced the opp more when MP85 is on the ice than when he isn’t and most of them are a direct result of his play on the ice. There might even be a WaPo article about this….

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by 5ive Hole on Dec 21, 2010 8:00 AM EST up reply actions  

Tease…

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by J.P. on Dec 21, 2010 8:01 AM EST up reply actions  

Interesting.

Are you going to compare the games with points versus the games without points?

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by fat_daddyo on Dec 21, 2010 8:03 AM EST up reply actions  

No, I didn’t, but I do compare Caps with MP85 on and off ice, and also compare him to MJ90 with the linemates they have in common.

I could do that comparison on RMNB. When you mean “points” do you mean his individual points or when the team gets a point in the standings?

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by 5ive Hole on Dec 21, 2010 8:06 AM EST up reply actions  

The games where he gets a point, I mean.

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by fat_daddyo on Dec 21, 2010 8:10 AM EST up reply actions  

Sure, I could do that. On the surface I feel chances will be the same since they have been pretty consistent during the year for the Caps as a whole — it was their conversion rate (goals scored off of chances) that literally plummeted (from ~18% to ~6%) during the non-win streak.

I’ll take a look.

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by 5ive Hole on Dec 21, 2010 8:13 AM EST up reply actions  

I think what you’re getting at is that we all know the points have come in bunches and then disappeared for a stretch, but has his actual play dropped off during those droughts?

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by J.P. on Dec 21, 2010 8:15 AM EST up reply actions  

Correct.

I feel like he’s been mostly invisible during the games where he hasn’t scored, but I might be wrong on that. His “chance differential on/off”, if I can make up a stat, might be a decent proxy for testing that theory.

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by fat_daddyo on Dec 21, 2010 8:17 AM EST up reply actions  

Not sure this is true. The Caps have outchanced the opp more when MP85 is on the ice than when he isn’t and most of them are a direct result of his play on the ice.

But that alone doesn’t speak to his consistency level.

by David Getz on Dec 21, 2010 8:16 AM EST up reply actions  

Frankly, I haven’t seen much in terms of playmaking ability at the NHL level from MP85 (the two assists on Semin goals against Atlanta notwithstanding). He’s been much more inclined to get pucks to the net and to go there himself, which certainly isn’t necessarily a bad thing, especially under a “simplify the game” approach. I can’t really remember him creating many chances that his linemates haven’t finished, but I’m sure there have been some. Generally, I think his game right now is better-suited to a “third-scoring line center” than a second-line playmaking pivot.

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by J.P. on Dec 21, 2010 7:50 AM EST up reply actions  

Perreault’s future might not be at center in the NHL. He’s been playing more like a wing, even when he’s nominally a center.

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by ThePeerless on Dec 21, 2010 8:29 AM EST up reply actions  

That’s a much more succinct way of stating what I was getting at.

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by J.P. on Dec 21, 2010 8:31 AM EST up reply actions  

So he’s been playing like Flash at C, just better in the FO dot?

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by Elliotte on Dec 21, 2010 8:35 AM EST up reply actions  

I think Flash is a much better passer than MP85 and more skilled, generally. MP85 seems to be more willing to get his nose dirty, though.

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by J.P. on Dec 21, 2010 8:36 AM EST up reply actions  

I think if MP85 has the ability to sustain his efforts he’s the solution to 2C. 100%, completely amazing if he were to play as hard as he does the first game of a call-up. The fact that he puts up like 2-4 points when that happens says he /should/ be capable of it.

Just having a guy who is willing to play fetch, eat some crosschecks and crash the net yet still have the ability to skate the puck into the zone and do some mild distribution work. You need someone a bit more capable than Franzen in the offensive zone but still has the same willpower to get abused for the sake of the high end talent on the line.

Since all of our defensive pairings in theory will have at least one guy with a shot and Semin is there you can be a bit more conservative with the talent you place in the middle.

MP85 needs to step it up and cement his place here or ship out. I’m tired of seeing mini-Ovechkin come tearing ass up the ice and doing everything right then following it up by hardly registering a worthwhile shot the next game.

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by sydtron on Dec 21, 2010 1:40 PM EST up reply actions  

and by Franzen I mean Holmstrom, wrong forward

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by sydtron on Dec 21, 2010 1:43 PM EST up reply actions  

I don’t agree. I mean, sure, if he scores two goals a night, by all means. But I don’t think his game is ideally suited to be a second-line center on a contending club right now.

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by J.P. on Dec 21, 2010 2:02 PM EST up reply actions  

His game isn’t ideally suited, but do you see more classic 2Cs being moved any time soon? Kesler and Sharp aren’t likely going anywhere ever. They’re all going to get buried in their respective uniforms. The Capitals are just going to have to force a square peg into a round hole unless they get incredibly lucky with a draft or Johansson mirrors Backstrom’s learning curve.

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by sydtron on Dec 21, 2010 2:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Disagree. There could be guys available. Jason Arnott, for example, when healthy, could be a fit. Obviously Brad Richards is our collective dream, but that ain’t happening.

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by J.P. on Dec 21, 2010 2:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Is this how bad it’s gotten? I thought you weren’t a fan of old man Arnott.

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by Rob Parker on Dec 21, 2010 2:22 PM EST up reply actions  

third times a charm, with the Sabres getting Niedermayer to save them with his oldness and Modano the same with the Red Wings, Arnott will be the AARPer to lead the Capitals to victory guaranteed.

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by sydtron on Dec 21, 2010 2:24 PM EST up reply actions  

I would rather throw that money at Alex Steen than toss it at Jason Arnott.

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by Rather Bengt on Dec 21, 2010 2:26 PM EST up reply actions  

ö

I like Steen and it’s just not because he saves street dogs at his spare time.

Although that’s a nice bonus.
 But do we really want to add yet another center that can’t win draws. His numbers were terrible last year and this year he spend some time on the wing probably more due to all injury’s then the fact that he sucks at face offs but still.

by Malin A on Dec 21, 2010 2:45 PM EST up reply actions  

I am not one to go ga-ga at animal pictures but that pic is adorable.

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by Rather Bengt on Dec 21, 2010 2:52 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree. Oh you were looking at the animal? I was looking at the gear.

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by Carl Putnam on Dec 21, 2010 2:55 PM EST up reply actions  

By the way Malin, thanks for the info re: Steen’s FO numbers. I had no idea.

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by Rather Bengt on Dec 21, 2010 3:02 PM EST up reply actions  

What’s he doing wearing that jacket? Too good for a STL Blue…

by Chris Burton on Dec 21, 2010 6:47 PM EST up reply actions  

You’re just mad that none of the Preds have such exceptional taste.

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by Knee high to a duck on Dec 21, 2010 6:51 PM EST up reply actions  

I’ve actually been a fan, but not at his salary and not with those health concerns. But he’s a pending UFA, so the salary is more bearable every day. If he can stay healthy, I don’t see him costing much and I think he’s a clear 2C upgrade for playoff-style hockey.

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by J.P. on Dec 21, 2010 2:50 PM EST up reply actions  

It’s a tossup for me between Arnott and Connolly. Connolly is probably more skilled and more capable defensively, but lacks the leadership credentials. Arnott has more experience and leadership potential, but lacks the same amount of skill.

Both have huge question marks when it comes to their effort level and their health, and both cost about the same.

by Wheeler on Dec 21, 2010 3:44 PM EST up reply actions  

I have never been a Tim Connolly fan. Besides his fragile nature, his effort level as you said has always been debatable.

If it turns out we are desperate for a 2C come the deadline, I will throw out there a less talked about name: Alex Tanguay.

Alex Tanguay is having a rejuvenation year playing alongside Iggy in CGY this year (34 games 9g 17a +4). Although he is lining up at LW for the Flames, he has alternated between C and LW in the past. He is a UFA after this year and only being paid $1.7 (less if we get him at the deadline). He does have a NMC but so does Arnott who was mentioned above, and the way Calgary is playing they may be out of the playoff picture. And Darryl Sutter (if he still has a job) will likely be cleaning house. He does have playoff experience from his past years with the Avs and is only 31 years old. A good playmaker, I could see a 2nd line of him flanked by Fehr and Semin and helping out on the PP unit,

Thoughts?

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by Rather Bengt on Dec 21, 2010 4:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Tanguay is MP85 with a little bit more height and virtually the same weight class.

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by sydtron on Dec 21, 2010 4:52 PM EST up reply actions  

And i would add 10 years more experience.

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by Rather Bengt on Dec 21, 2010 4:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Tanguay hasn’t taken more than 100 draws in any season since 2002-2003, and he took 123 that season. He’s not a center by any stretch of the imagination.

by Wheeler on Dec 21, 2010 5:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Fail on my part then.

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by Rather Bengt on Dec 21, 2010 5:22 PM EST up reply actions  

That’s what I was going to say. We’ve already tried the wings trying to play center route. I’d rather a true C. Definitely don’t want Connolly, but could live with Arnott though it’s far less than ideal.

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by Rob Parker on Dec 21, 2010 5:36 PM EST up reply actions  

I disagree with that. I think Flash’s advantage over MP is in his shot and his size. Maybe the technical aspect of his passing is marginally better at this point (harder and more accurate) but I think MP has much more creativity and ability to move defenders to create passing lanes. I guess Flash could have more passing skill but not be able to show it, but I never really felt like he was a great set up guy.

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by Rob Parker on Dec 21, 2010 2:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Agreed on size and shot. Not sure I agree on creativity and ability to move defenders beyond his willingness to make contact and go into traffic (which I noted). Maybe it’s “the technical aspect” to which I’m referring, but I still think Flash is the better passer.

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by J.P. on Dec 21, 2010 2:09 PM EST up reply actions  

I am thinking more of last year with the creativity. It hasn’t been on display as much this year but he had one play where he brought the puck through the neutral zone and backed the D in then slowed down and let a perfect drop pass go to Pothier at the top of the circles for a goal and then another play where he was able to pull a D out of his lane and get the puck across the ice to (I think Chris Clark) a linemate for another goal. It’s that change of pace/angles ability that I didn’t see Flash using all that much. When I think about passing ability a lot of it goes to seeing the play and being able to make the passing lanes show up when you need them to show up.

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by Rob Parker on Dec 21, 2010 2:11 PM EST up reply actions  

I can buy that. That change of pace is almost… waterbuggish.

His playmaking has just never stood out to me other than in spurts (then again, that’s pretty much his career in a nutshell so far). Could be a lack of finishers around him, though.

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by J.P. on Dec 21, 2010 2:15 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

waterbuggish

Touche.

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by SeattleCapsFan on Dec 21, 2010 2:21 PM EST up reply actions  

He had a similar play in the Atlanta game where he was on a breakout and entered the offensive zone by himself with some considerable space between him and the defenders. Rather than take a shot or dump the puck, he pulled up and waited for his linemates. He then passed to a forward (Semin, maybe?) streaking down the center and hit him in stride. It’s plays like that sold me on his playmaking abilities.

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by Laich It Or Lump It on Dec 21, 2010 2:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Spot on, Laichitor.

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by Rob Parker on Dec 21, 2010 5:31 PM EST up reply actions  

First 30 NHL games…

Player A: 2-5-7, minus-5
Player B: 8-7-15, plus-9

Who are they?

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by ThePeerless on Dec 21, 2010 8:38 AM EST up reply actions  

I’m stuck on Player A
Player B is MP85

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by The Miz on Dec 21, 2010 9:06 AM EST up reply actions  

Backstrom for Player A?

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by fat_daddyo on Dec 21, 2010 9:07 AM EST up reply actions  

Not enough points for Backstrom. He was 4-15-19, minus-1.

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by The Miz on Dec 21, 2010 9:14 AM EST up reply actions  

Is player A Martin St Louis?

by Malin A on Dec 21, 2010 9:38 AM EST up reply actions  

Hahaha beat me to it but about 30 seconds.

by Yoshietree on Dec 21, 2010 9:39 AM EST up reply actions  

yup… Marty St. Louis. He spent those first 30 games (and a few more) in Calgary.

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by ThePeerless on Dec 21, 2010 9:42 AM EST up reply actions  

It’s an interesting comparison for sure….but I have to think that being an offensive player of their size was much harder pre lockout than it is today.

by Yoshietree on Dec 21, 2010 9:45 AM EST up reply actions  

Theo Fleury says hello. As does Bryan Trottier. As does Henri Richard.

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by J.P. on Dec 21, 2010 9:53 AM EST up reply actions  

Da plane, da plane.

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RIP

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Microscopic Lespeckman

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There’s a reason that St. Louis has approx. 1/8 of the PIMs Fleury had and less than 1/4 of Trottier (though I don’t know nearly as much about Trottier as Fleury and Richard is totally different IMO).

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St Louis didn’t make it to the NHL full time until he was 24, and didn’t start scoring consistently until he was 27.

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How old was St. Louis in his first 30 games?

by DrinkingPartner on Dec 21, 2010 9:51 AM EST up reply actions  

24

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by ThePeerless on Dec 21, 2010 9:54 AM EST up reply actions  

About 234 years old

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What moisturizer does he use?

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He gave Semin a very pretty setup that Semin rang off the post with slapshot several games ago… Maple Leafs game, maybe? Don’t remember.

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by Ninjak on Dec 21, 2010 9:50 AM EST up reply actions  

Leafs, yeah.

Of note, that was the dagger that would have salted that game away.

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by fat_daddyo on Dec 21, 2010 10:48 AM EST up reply actions  

And was right before TOR got the 2nd goal to start the comeback.

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by Rob Parker on Dec 21, 2010 2:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Shouldn’t a 3-goal lead salt the game away? Since when does it have to be a 4-goal lead? And how sure are we that even a 4-goal lead would be safe?

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by Ninjak on Dec 21, 2010 3:29 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Frankly, I haven’t seen much in terms of playmaking ability at the NHL level from MP85

Do you mean this season or overall? Perreault said himself in Corey’s article that he is more of a passer than a goal scorer. I would bet that the shift in modus operandi during the losing streak altered his style. There is a noticeable difference between the first call up when things were peachy and the second call during the heart of the streak. Most notably during the Atlanta game you mentioned. During that game, his playmaking skills were on full display.

Then again, the shift in playing style could simply be an effort to remain in the big leagues. He mentioned that he wanted play with the same linemates consistently, so they could build up a rapport together. It is difficult to be an effective playmaker with unfamiliar linemates night-in and night-out. Being the highly scrutinized, young call-up with continuously changing linemates, he might simply shoot or go to the net instead of looking for the perfect pass.

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by Laich It Or Lump It on Dec 21, 2010 11:33 AM EST up reply actions  

It’s also easier to look like a playmaker if you’ve got Good Sasha finishing your chances instead of Laich and Knuble.

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by SmallZ827 on Dec 21, 2010 11:46 AM EST up reply actions  

I can buy that. Just haven’t really seen the playmaking other than (as we both noted) that ATL game.

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by J.P. on Dec 21, 2010 2:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Yikes. Via PD, Derek Engelland and Taylor Pyatt’s fight from last night.

When Steggy and Errey not the two combatants and immediately go, “tough situation for Pyatt here”, you know it’s not good.

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by fat_daddyo on Dec 21, 2010 8:02 AM EST up reply actions  

Not good at all since Taylor got hurt. Worse was that his teammates didn’t respond. I’m guessing being a Coyotes the next 2 days will not be pleasant as Tippett is pissed.

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by Carl Putnam on Dec 21, 2010 8:21 AM EST up reply actions  

Was BizMarkie2.0 dressed?

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by J.P. on Dec 21, 2010 8:22 AM EST up reply actions  

Well played.

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by J.P. on Dec 21, 2010 8:27 AM EST up reply actions  

Benny and the Rec’d.

"So if I drank a bottle of rum (not really, it was about 2/3 of a bottle) starting at 1p and continuing through the Caps game does that mean I need to do that every Caps game from here on?"

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by Bald Pollack on Dec 21, 2010 8:27 AM EST up reply actions  

BizNasty youuuuuuuuu you got what the ‘yotes neeeeeeeeeeeed
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by Wheeler on Dec 21, 2010 8:26 AM EST up reply actions  

His twitter account is remarkably quiet this AM. Not even a skid mark update….

Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...

by dcsportsfan1 on Dec 21, 2010 8:43 AM EST up reply actions  

Wonder if HBO will catch Engelland getting more praise from the coach in the locker room, then getting torched in his meeting with Shero later in the show…again.

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by ThePeerless on Dec 21, 2010 8:31 AM EST up reply actions  

Gee, after his fight w/ Orr Bylsma DID say to go after a tough guy next time…good for him taking that to heart and picking on Taylor Pyatt, the well-known goon.

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by Becca H on Dec 21, 2010 8:45 AM EST up reply actions  

yeah I had a problem with that. Pyatt was engaged with Cooke, then Engelland skated over, grabbed Pyatt from behind and started the fight. Pretty bush league from a heavyweight enforcer to do that with a guy who fights about once a season

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by Sombrero Guy on Dec 21, 2010 9:08 AM EST up reply actions  

I think that was his team mates that were kidding with him to fight a tough guy next time, no? I thought that was just a little joshing way of acknowledging that he took on a pretty tough guy?

And I have to cut Engelland some slack here, as I think Pyatt dropped the gloves first. I think. Once that happens, what’s he gonna do?

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by fat_daddyo on Dec 21, 2010 9:12 AM EST up reply actions  

I’ll correct myself.

Watched it again, and Engelland locks up with Pyatt, drops one glove, gives Pyatt some shots with the still-gloved hand, which prompts Pyatt to drop them.

That ended up being an ambush of a non-fighter by a fighter.

Not so great.

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by fat_daddyo on Dec 21, 2010 9:18 AM EST up reply actions  

It definitely was (and it was only Bylsma saying it) – that was my point.

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by Becca H on Dec 21, 2010 9:18 AM EST up reply actions  

Only Bylsma saying what?

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by fat_daddyo on Dec 21, 2010 9:19 AM EST up reply actions  

That he should pick a tough guy. And I was joking, saying that he didn’t know it was a joke AND picked a non-tough guy to fight.

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by Becca H on Dec 21, 2010 9:33 AM EST up reply actions  

I thought it was one of his teammates teasing him.

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by J.P. on Dec 21, 2010 9:20 AM EST up reply actions  

I’m 97.3% sure it was Bylsma saying “next time pick a tough guy, Engel” but I could be wrong.

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by Becca H on Dec 21, 2010 9:32 AM EST up reply actions  

So will you give me 36:1 odds if I bet teammate?

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by J.P. on Dec 21, 2010 9:34 AM EST up reply actions  

…no, because now I’m starting to doubt myself. :P

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by Becca H on Dec 21, 2010 9:36 AM EST up reply actions  

Ask on Twitter and see what the answer is.

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by J.P. on Dec 21, 2010 9:37 AM EST up reply actions  

No. It’s Letang, I looked it up…mother f*%ker.

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by Becca H on Dec 21, 2010 9:38 AM EST up reply actions  

97.3% never seemed so low…

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by J.P. on Dec 21, 2010 9:43 AM EST up reply actions  

Hey, at least I left myself a margin of error, no matter how small!

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by Becca H on Dec 21, 2010 9:45 AM EST up reply actions  

It was a teammate sitting next to Engelland. Bylsma was the one in the middle of the room saying, “f’n right”

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by ThePeerless on Dec 21, 2010 9:39 AM EST up reply actions  

Should have known Bylsma wouldn’t say something that clever – at least it was Letang, one of the few Pens (read: the only one) I like.

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by Becca H on Dec 21, 2010 9:41 AM EST up reply actions  

It could make for good TV if someone asked Boudreau about Engelland and whether he thought he’d make it to the NHL, since Engelland played for Hershey under Boudreau/Woods in 2005-06 and 2006-07 :)

by sk84fun_dc on Dec 21, 2010 10:18 AM EST up reply actions  

Kinda bush league of Engelland to pick on Pyatt when it wasn’t him who was giving Geno the business initally, no? Pyatt was just holding onto him during the scrum and Engelland gives him a few rabbit punches to get him to go. Maybe I missed something there.

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by dcsportsfan1 on Dec 21, 2010 8:34 AM EST up reply actions  

Ekman-Larsson was the one crosschecking Geno.

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by boutros23 on Dec 21, 2010 8:34 AM EST up reply actions  

I need to reread my version of the code. I didn’t think you picked fights with guys below your weight class unless they were stepping out of line with one of your guys.

Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...

by dcsportsfan1 on Dec 21, 2010 8:42 AM EST up reply actions  

Apparently now that only applies to d-men. You can go after any forward.

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by Carl Putnam on Dec 21, 2010 8:53 AM EST up reply actions  

A vicious cross-check to the ass.

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by hotdog88gt on Dec 21, 2010 8:44 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, I’d have thought that somewhere in “The Code” there’s something about thugs not beating the tar out of opponents who rarely fights if they needn’t be held accountable for anything in particular. Maybe Engelland hasn’t read up (he didn’t, after all, go to Harvard).

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by J.P. on Dec 21, 2010 8:43 AM EST up reply actions  

I blame HBO. With Boardwalk Empire’s season over, they need to fill the violence void. No doubt Nucky gave Engelland a little something for the effort.

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by dcsportsfan1 on Dec 21, 2010 8:46 AM EST up reply actions  

They also need to fill the nudity and sex void, but I’m not advocating the Penguins go down that road.

by b.orr4 on Dec 21, 2010 11:17 AM EST up reply actions  

Please, God, no. A life without knowing what Crosby looks like naked is a good life to have.

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by WordsOnIce on Dec 21, 2010 11:23 AM EST up reply actions  

Wasn’t there a brief shot of a bare ass in there? I didn’t see it but I heard someone (Engelland, I think) got into the background of the shot of Cooke shaving his ’stache.

Nudity quota = filled.

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by Becca H on Dec 21, 2010 11:26 AM EST up reply actions  

Wysh noted in the PD recap that it was indeed Engelland butt.

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by boutros23 on Dec 21, 2010 12:45 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m sure Ovi can fill that void by himself. I’m hearing that he’s having to much sex and that’s the reason he’s not scoring like he’s used to – if only he can be more like the Edmonton Oilers of the 80’s.

by Malin A on Dec 21, 2010 11:27 AM EST up reply actions  

Engelland’s a bit of a meathead, he did the same thing against Nashville – Tootoo roughs up Malkin, he goes after Klein. Lame-o.

by Chris Burton on Dec 21, 2010 9:38 AM EST up reply actions  

The “AGH CAM”!

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by hotdog88gt on Dec 21, 2010 8:40 AM EST up reply actions  

It’s kinda weird to have a TV network actually encourage me to watch another channel, but because I watched VS last night I know it’s Crosby vs. Ovechkin in two days! Crosby vs. Ovechkin, Ovechkin vs. Crosby! I’m pretty sure the other guys will be on the ice, too, but it’s pretty much just a battle between these two guys for shooah. Crosby vs. Ovechkin. Yessir.

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by hotdog88gt on Dec 21, 2010 8:24 AM EST reply actions  

Ovechby! Croskin! Sidlex! Alney!

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by ThePeerless on Dec 21, 2010 8:32 AM EST up reply actions  

On a roll were you – until Alney. But five syllables isn’t all that much to work with. Anyways, “Sidlex” has a nice ring to it.

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by hotdog88gt on Dec 21, 2010 8:43 AM EST up reply actions  

Sounds pharmaceutical.

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by boutros23 on Dec 21, 2010 8:44 AM EST up reply actions  

Sidlex is not for everyone. Possible side effects include whining, causing people to toss hats on the ice, bad breath and missing teeth. Check with your doctor if Damien Cox writes a book about you, as this may be a sign of a serious side effect…

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by MikeL-Pivonka on Dec 21, 2010 9:42 AM EST up reply actions   4 recs

causing people to toss hats on the ice

I wish Alex Ovechkin would show that side effect more often.

by DrinkingPartner on Dec 21, 2010 9:53 AM EST up reply actions   3 recs

Amen… maybe tonight?

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by MikeL-Pivonka on Dec 21, 2010 1:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Wait, I missed a syllable. There’s 9 of ’em.

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by hotdog88gt on Dec 21, 2010 8:53 AM EST up reply actions  

In order to make this 1-on-1 rivalry ever more exciting the NHL should make AO add a ‘7’ to his jersey, or make Sid remove the ‘7’ from his.

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by hotdog88gt on Dec 21, 2010 8:52 AM EST up reply actions  

DGB does Christmas letters!

Dear Santa,

For Christmas this year, I’d like to ask for a [expletive deleted] toy train, a [expletive deleted] toboggan, and most important of all [expletive deleted] [expletive deleted] [expletive deleted] peace on [expletive deleted] earth.

Yours,
Bruce [expletive deleted] Boudreau

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My other favorite one was this one:

Dear Santa,

I’m writing to apologize for my previous letter to you, where I thanked you for my $100 million contract and made reference to “our little agreement” that was signed in the summer and came due in October.

I’m sure that was really confusing for you, since you had no idea what I was referring to. My bad. I accidentally switched a couple of letters when I was addressing the letter.

Cheers,
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by Elliotte on Dec 21, 2010 8:50 AM EST up reply actions  

Thanks to bagace for the FFH shout out in yesterday’s Clips. Some Caps folks dropped by during the day. Much appreciated.

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by Carl Putnam on Dec 21, 2010 8:48 AM EST reply actions  

Hey CP. Good to see you mate. I dropped by FFH yesterday during the Pens game and reading some articles there and read the FFH roundtable. It caught my eye that most of you participating believed that, if possible, the Yotes should make a play for Semin. Just for shits and giggles, say if GMGM were to approach GMDM for a trade involving Semin, what do you think GMDM could offer the Caps that we’d be interested in?

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by Rather Bengt on Dec 21, 2010 9:08 AM EST up reply actions  

Thanks for dropping by and reading.

Semin trade – If I’m GMGM I’d like to have a young D prospect or two, so think it could work if the teams were interested. The Yotes organization has a ton of such young D prospects. I would think any of them would be available including Gormley. Given that Sasha is a UFA the price tag will be lower than if he was under contract past this season. I’m sure GMDM would trade picks too. I’m not sure who the Caps would want off the Yotes active roster anyway.

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by Carl Putnam on Dec 21, 2010 9:17 AM EST up reply actions  

Semin for Lepisto and Yonkman!

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by J.P. on Dec 21, 2010 9:18 AM EST up reply actions  

lol When I saw Nolan Yonkman had a sweater last night vs the Pens, I started having mid 00s Caps flashbacks.

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by Rather Bengt on Dec 21, 2010 9:19 AM EST up reply actions  

He’s been really solid since the call up. He was the only plus player on the Yotes roster last night.

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by Carl Putnam on Dec 21, 2010 9:20 AM EST up reply actions  

Colour me amazed.

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by Rather Bengt on Dec 21, 2010 9:22 AM EST up reply actions  

Same here given my recollections of his time as a Cap. He seems to have finally realized how to use his size/strength in a smart way. He’s been less physical and his positioning has been much better.

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by Carl Putnam on Dec 21, 2010 9:34 AM EST up reply actions  

I’d rather Color you Badd.

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by D'ohboy on Dec 21, 2010 10:35 AM EST up reply actions  

Do you wanna sex him up too?

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by oldemystix on Dec 21, 2010 11:36 AM EST up reply actions  

I’m such a Caps geek. I read that as Color you Brad.

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by WordsOnIce on Dec 21, 2010 11:44 AM EST up reply actions  

Semin for Yandle. That might be difficult to turn down for the Caps.

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by STLSpidey on Dec 21, 2010 9:19 AM EST up reply actions  

Problem there is Yandle will be a much cheaper player for awhile. If I knew I could re-sign Sasha I’d do it if I was GMDM, but I doubt he would. The org is higher on Yandle than I am.

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by Carl Putnam on Dec 21, 2010 9:21 AM EST up reply actions  

I don’t watch much, but I’ve gotten the impression that Yandle is a very good, puck moving, young D. The league seems high on him. Has he cooled off this year?

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by STLSpidey on Dec 21, 2010 9:23 AM EST up reply actions  

Yes. He’s been asked to do more this season including more minutes. He’s been paired with Derek Morris and that pairing has been brutal in their own end. Also, his decision making with the puck has been suspect at times. He’s young and I’m sure he’ll get better, but his rep in this town and throughout the league is way too good given his actual production in total.

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by Carl Putnam on Dec 21, 2010 9:27 AM EST up reply actions  

That’s OK. Derek Morris will find a new home at the trade deadline as he seems to every year.

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by Rather Bengt on Dec 21, 2010 9:28 AM EST up reply actions  

Probably not going to happen. He’s seen as a leader by the org and only got traded last year because he likes it here. He looked great after the trade last year, but now he’s back to the DMo I didn’t like in his prior time here.

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by Carl Putnam on Dec 21, 2010 9:36 AM EST up reply actions  

If the Caps were to move Semin, that’d be 63 2009-10 goals traded away (adding in Flash) from a team that’s having trouble scoring (right now). That’s a lot of offense heading out.

Of course, that’s 0 2009-10 playoff goals traded…

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by J.P. on Dec 21, 2010 9:23 AM EST up reply actions  

The only way I think the Caps trade Semin is if either a) they don’t think they can sign him or b) they know for cap reasons that they can’t sign him or c) they decide he’s not in their long term plans.

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by STLSpidey on Dec 21, 2010 9:25 AM EST up reply actions  

or (d) someone offers them the solution to the problem at 2C and perhaps D depth in exchange.

Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...

by dcsportsfan1 on Dec 21, 2010 9:27 AM EST up reply actions  

Agreed. There is the old “I’ll make you an offer you can’t refuse” scenario.

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by STLSpidey on Dec 21, 2010 9:31 AM EST up reply actions  

That would likely be the offer GMGM would take if he took one.

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by Carl Putnam on Dec 21, 2010 9:37 AM EST up reply actions  

Alright then Semin for Belanger and Yonkman it is :P

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by Rather Bengt on Dec 21, 2010 9:45 AM EST up reply actions  

Imagine if that happened what BB’s reaction would be when GMGM told him about the trade.

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by Carl Putnam on Dec 21, 2010 9:49 AM EST up reply actions  

HBO would have a field day.

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by Rather Bengt on Dec 21, 2010 9:50 AM EST up reply actions  

I have this fantasy wherein one of Semin’s hot streaks coincides with a couple of playoff rounds. The Caps would have a hell of a run if Semin put up November-like numbers in the post-season.

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That’s the dream, yes.

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by J.P. on Dec 21, 2010 9:27 AM EST up reply actions  

GMDM – “Where do I sign?”

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by Carl Putnam on Dec 21, 2010 9:19 AM EST up reply actions  

Marian Hanzal please

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by Rather Bengt on Dec 21, 2010 9:20 AM EST up reply actions  

I mean Martin..doh

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by Rather Bengt on Dec 21, 2010 9:20 AM EST up reply actions  

I was listening to the broadcast on XM last night and was surprised when Mike Lang said he was only 23.

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by STLSpidey on Dec 21, 2010 9:21 AM EST up reply actions  

Probably because he’s already in his 4th year in the NHL. Guy is by far the most solid player on the roster. He is probably the one guy GMGM would covet, but he’s also the one guy GMDM could ill afford to trade.

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by Carl Putnam on Dec 21, 2010 9:23 AM EST up reply actions  

Just out of personal interest sake sunce you’re here CP. I read that Petr Prucha was waived by the Yotes earlier this year and is now with San Antonio. I always thought he was part of their checking line. What happened there?

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by Rather Bengt on Dec 21, 2010 9:25 AM EST up reply actions  

Frankly, I’m unclear. For some reason he got into Tip’s doghouse and seemingly couldn’t get out. He was getting scratched a bunch. I didn’t see anything when he did play that warranted it, but I was looking too hard. From what I’ve read he’s been playing well for the Rampage. He’s averaging a one point per game. Check out this article on him from last Friday.

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by Carl Putnam on Dec 21, 2010 9:32 AM EST up reply actions  

Thanks for the link mate. One of those guys who has no doubt underwhelmed production-wise since his 30 goal year early on with NYR, but I was surprised no one took a flyer on him when he was released.

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by Rather Bengt on Dec 21, 2010 9:43 AM EST up reply actions  

He’s never going to do that again. On the other hand, he showed last year with the Czech line that he can be an effective two-way guy. It’s why I was surprised Tip gave up on him so quickly.

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by Carl Putnam on Dec 21, 2010 9:45 AM EST up reply actions  

Draft picks and or prospects for a 40 goal scorer? No Thanks. I would hope that somebody from the Yotes active roster would be coming back.

I would love Scottie Upshall in a caps uni!

by DBake on Dec 21, 2010 10:04 AM EST up reply actions  

I like your Upshall choice as it would help lessen Semin’s loss, but he’s a 15-20 goal scorer. Let’s say its Upshall, Gormley or Goncharov, and a pick. Would you do that if you are the Caps?

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by Carl Putnam on Dec 21, 2010 10:09 AM EST up reply actions  

Yes, I would need to educate myself on the two prospects, But to me that would be better at least from a Caps side of things.

Upshall to me is a guy come April, That would perform in the playoffs, gritty and likes to get his nose dirty. I could live with 15-20 goals during the regular season.

by DBake on Dec 21, 2010 10:14 AM EST up reply actions  

He’s less gritty now than he was with the Flyers. I think he was more so there out of necessity. he’s more like the Nashville Upshall. I’d love to ask him how much he misses Lombardi. he’s not been the same this season.

Gormley was the 13th pick in this year’s draft. Plays for Moncton. He’s currently out injured. If he wasn’t hurt he almost certainly would have made the Canadian WJC team. He’s only 18 years old. He’ll be hard to pry away from GMDM as he’s considered almost can’t miss.

Goncharov is older. He’s played in the KHL and is now playing in the AHL for San Antonio. He’s got great raw tools and is big, but can skate well. More likely GMGM could pry him away.

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by Carl Putnam on Dec 21, 2010 10:25 AM EST up reply actions  

After looking up both, I would go for Goncharov, Just because he is older and the wait on him wouldn’t be to long, Add to the fact that we need defensemen in our system again.

Change of scenery could help Upshall, I could see him on the 1st or 2nd line here in DC.

by DBake on Dec 21, 2010 10:31 AM EST up reply actions  

If I had to choose I’d choose Gormley just because he’s got a higher ceiling. I fell in love with Gonch when I saw him at rookie camp, but I’m not blind to the fact that Gormley has higher value.

As for Upshall, I think he’d fit in great on the Caps. If the Caps could ever solve the 2C issue with someone with speed he’d be a perfect fit. He’d also work great with 1st line, but who wouldn’t with Baks/Ovi.

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by Carl Putnam on Dec 21, 2010 10:40 AM EST up reply actions  

From reading the FFH roundtable, I think the Yotes would benefit trading for Semin, Not sure how and if they want to get into a bidding war come the offseason. But with new ownership, Who knows what the thinking will be.

Out of all of this, I hope the Caps re-sign Liach, That is the one guy I don’t want to lose.

by DBake on Dec 21, 2010 10:54 AM EST up reply actions  

I think Hulsizer will spend money, but I’m not sure how much yet. I think they’d only made the trade if they felt they could re-sign Semin.

 In my eyes, the UFA market is really unappealing this coming offseason, so I’d imagine Sasha will get overpaid.

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by Carl Putnam on Dec 21, 2010 11:00 AM EST up reply actions  

My final year living in Kamloops I saw Scottie Upshall’s rookie year for the Blazers. He was probably the most exciting player on the team. That 2000-2001Blazers team had loads of Caps connections: their coach was Dean Evason, the only 2 D-men on the squad to make the NHL were Shaone Morrisonn and Tyler Sloan. Their leading scorer was Jared Aulin and starting goalie was Davis Parley. Aulin and Parley were career minor leaguers who spent time with the Bears and Stingrays,

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by Rather Bengt on Dec 21, 2010 10:55 AM EST up reply actions  

Parley never worked out until he met Fred Vous.

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Dec 21, 2010 11:08 AM EST up reply actions  

Unfortunately Linden Vey was cut from the Team Canada squad for the WJC. I wonder if his nickname is “Oy”.

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by Rather Bengt on Dec 21, 2010 11:13 AM EST up reply actions  

Sasha 24 points in 28 playoff games.
Scottie 7 points in 19 playoff games.

Of course Sasha had more ice time but sometimes it feels like we are so hung up on the Montreal series that we don’t remember that he actually can produced in the playoffs. We keep looking for “gritty” “playoff types” that on paper is likely to produce in the playoffs maybe we should just keep the player that actually have shown that he can produce not just on paper but in reality. Especially when it’s almost impossible to get the full value for the type of player Sasha is in a trade.

by Malin A on Dec 21, 2010 11:03 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Correct. I’d add that Upshall is nowhere as good a two way player either. That is why you get more than Upshall in the deal and you only make the deal if you feel you can’t re-sign Sasha.

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by Carl Putnam on Dec 21, 2010 11:07 AM EST up reply actions  

Maybe this is just me being pessimistic – but I just envisioned Sasha getting traded in March. And the next scene that pops up in my head is Sasha accepting the Conn Smythe trophy when his new team have won the cup.

by Malin A on Dec 21, 2010 12:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Any team that wins a Cup with Alex Semin is more likely to do so in spite of him than thanks to him, IMO.

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by J.P. on Dec 21, 2010 12:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Maybe this is my English failing me but do in spite of him mean him being a burden to the team? If that’s the case I think that’s to harsh.
I don’t ever expect him to carry a team year after year. I do think however that he could go on a tear for a couple of weeks and that could be enough to win it all for him and his team.

by Malin A on Dec 21, 2010 1:10 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Yeah, lots of people are of that mind. I just don’t really happen to be one of them. I mean, I could see it. But there’s nothing from his past body of work to indicate that he can sustain a high level of play, especially when it matters.

[Sorry, didn’t mean to launch into this discussion again.]

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by J.P. on Dec 21, 2010 1:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Understood. I’m used to being accused of being a bit of a Semin basher so this whole defending Semin thing is kind of new for me. I’m guess I am embarrassing my inner Semin Rocks today.

[Sorry, didn’t mean to launch into this discussion again.]

You are right Let’s talk about Chris Bourque instead shall we?

by Malin A on Dec 21, 2010 1:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Talk about English fail. The sad thing is that I actually previewed it before I hit post.

by Malin A on Dec 21, 2010 1:42 PM EST up reply actions  

We knew what you meant.

I’m always mixed on Sasha like most are. I’m probably wrongly convinced that the right coach can get more out of him, especially in terms on cutting down on the dumb penalties and passing miscues.

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by Carl Putnam on Dec 21, 2010 1:58 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree to a point. 08 against the Flyers he was good. 8 points in 7 games. We all remember that he was a beast against the Rangers in 09. And I think we can all agree he disappeared against the Pens in the following series. 6 pts 0-goals and 6 assist.

And then the series against Montreal is well documented. To me his play in the spring is like his play in the regular season. Starts out good and then it seems we need to put his mug on a milk carton.

by DBake on Dec 21, 2010 11:26 AM EST up reply actions  

we need to put his mug on a milk carton.

That is so not true!
You can always count on him to get noticed when he takes a couple of ill advised stick infractions.

by Malin A on Dec 21, 2010 11:57 AM EST up reply actions  

LOL. Your comment made go look up another Sasha stat.

28 playoff games; 28 PIMS..

At least he’s consistent! :)

by DBake on Dec 21, 2010 12:05 PM EST up reply actions  

The issue (for me at least) has never been that he routinely disappears during the playoffs. It’s always been that he’s inconsistent so you never know which Semin you are going to get come April, May and (God willing) June.

This isn’t to say I’d prefer Upshall, I wouldn’t.

The guy is Peter Schumpmaker. Lord knows what a schump is, but you can bet your bippy his ancestors made them. What he's doing is far worse than crafting fine schumps.

by Steckel Me Elmo on Dec 21, 2010 12:45 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m tepid on Upshall; weaker comp and strong teammates, though with admittedly strong Corsi results. He’s not great on penalty differential. In fact, he’s awful at it. He takes as many penalties as Semin per/60 and draws just more than half as many.

I am, however, very high on Gormley. Dude was a consensus top-5 pick before a whole raft of teams inexplicably passed on he and Fowler. He’s lauded for his hockey sense and developed two-way game, he’s a potential 1D.

Throw in a pick and you’re looking at an bluechip prospect (in the Carlznerson class), a 2W, and a pick for an elite W. That’s a pretty fair trade for a team that isn’t looking to take a run at the Cup this season…but I don’t know if McPhee can trade present for future in this case.

On the other hand, a future blueline of Carlson/Alzner, Schultz/Green, Gormley/Orlov is pretty freakin’ tantalizing. That could easily be the best in the league.

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by Knee high to a duck on Dec 21, 2010 12:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Gormley is certainly what would sell the trade not Uppy. Uppy like Semin is a UFA, so he’d be a rental. Gormley on the other hand would be cheap for years to come. Hence, why I would see GMDM being more likely to unload any of the other good D prospects Gonch, Summers, Ross, or Stone rather than Gormley. Doesn’t mean GMGM wouldn’t push for it though. Obviously, the chances of any Yotes/Caps trade are extremely small, but its fun to throw out the possibilities.

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by Carl Putnam on Dec 21, 2010 1:27 PM EST up reply actions  

7:30 game start on Vs. Oh the Joy. I have set 10:30 as the over/under for the final horn.

by SA-Town on Dec 21, 2010 9:16 AM EST reply actions  

and taking the over

by SA-Town on Dec 21, 2010 9:16 AM EST up reply actions  

Rookies, Rookies, Rookies

I was wondering if anyone out there has thoughts on any relationship in this streak between the number of rookies the Caps have now regularly in the line-up (five on any given night—Carlson, Alzner, MP, Mackan, and Varly/Neuvy) and the difficulty they’ve had in ending this steak. I can’t say for certain that any of these guys has been the prime cause due to poor play (the d-rookies have stepped it up…), but we always talk about “intangibles” in sports that veterans bring and I wonder if having less gifted, but more experienced players would have prevented this prolonged slump (especially maybe in goal, where a top veteran would have known “if it’s not me stopping this, it’s no one.”) On the whole, I wouldn’t want to substitute these guys for veterans. But I wonder if we took half-a-step back this season adding so many rookies at once to the line-up and especially at such critical positions (two at C, two at goal). Thoughts?

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by Bonzai!!! on Dec 21, 2010 9:23 AM EST reply actions  

You could say that having a younger line up this year is a little bit of the cause for the Caps play this year. (Not just the 8 game skid).

My problem isn’t with the young guys at all. It’s the so called vets on this team not preforming well that is fustrating to me. Hopefully they will get together when it’s needed and that’s at the start of the playoffs.

by DBake on Dec 21, 2010 10:37 AM EST up reply actions  

It should be noted that MP only played 5 games during the losing streak, and Mackan played 6. Both of them were playing fairly well for the most part – it was veterans who were most noticable in their poor play. With Varly and Neuvy, both did have a some good games during the streak, as well as some awful games. Last season, the Caps would have won a few of those good games by getting some scoring – so I don’t think either of them is too much to blame.

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by timmyv38 on Dec 21, 2010 10:51 AM EST up reply actions  

Aside from the sheer awkwardness of Ovi and Sid on the Price is Right, I really just can’t take those damn Pens jerseys seriously. They look even worse on.

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by SeattleCapsFan on Dec 21, 2010 9:24 AM EST reply actions  

“Hello, I’m Sidney Crosby and, yes, I do allow my colorblind mother to design my clothing.”

by DrinkingPartner on Dec 21, 2010 9:29 AM EST up reply actions  

yup

The only time I have seen the jersey look good is when drawn by Robert Ullman.


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by zephyr on Dec 21, 2010 11:43 AM EST up reply actions  

Here’s how I see this: The Pens chick had to drink an entire flask before agreeing to pose in such a horrendous jersey. The Caps chick really has to pee…

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by SeattleCapsFan on Dec 21, 2010 11:49 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

What's

…your expert artist opinion on this one?

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by zephyr on Dec 21, 2010 11:50 AM EST up reply actions  

1975lbs. Nice touch, that.

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by The Ghost of Bebop on Dec 21, 2010 12:03 PM EST up reply actions  

My opinion is that the lady in red should let go of the rope….

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by MikeL-Pivonka on Dec 21, 2010 1:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Green Men > Capstronaut

I don’t recall anyone posting this, from a couple days ago, The Vancouver Green Men having fun with the Leafs.

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by patred48 on Dec 21, 2010 9:29 AM EST reply actions  

All of the wondering where he was, and it was so disappointing when he showed up again t’other night.

Can't he be both, like the late Earl Warren?
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Dec 21, 2010 9:30 AM EST up reply actions   2 recs

Those guys are awesome. I love the clip in which the one guy is doing a headstand.

"Now wait a minute. This is just purely a social call. You know, just two adults getting a stew on, man."

by The Ghost of Bebop on Dec 21, 2010 9:31 AM EST up reply actions  

Ballsillie's back?

Bob McKenzie just retweeted this -

Hi again, social friends! Very early morning. Nashville bound today! And not to learn how to write a country song. Stay tuned.

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by Carl Putnam on Dec 21, 2010 9:48 AM EST reply actions  

I feel your pain.

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by Carl Putnam on Dec 21, 2010 9:52 AM EST up reply actions  

Don’t worry. He’s just going to buy the Tennessee Titans so that he can move them to Hamilton should the Tiger-Cats leave.

by Wheeler on Dec 21, 2010 9:54 AM EST up reply actions  

Tennessee should just change their name to the Tiger-Cats. The Tennessee Ti-Cats has a great ring to it.

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Dec 21, 2010 9:56 AM EST up reply actions  

Yes, we’re the…Hamilton Oilers… Hamilton Oilers

If you've read this far...seek help.

by ThePeerless on Dec 21, 2010 9:58 AM EST up reply actions  

lol! Don’t worry, that guy has burned so many bridges, a tweet won’t bring any of them back.

You had me at no problem.

by Ninjak on Dec 21, 2010 9:58 AM EST up reply actions  

Let’s play a game of “which of these things is not like the other”!

Animals used to describe hockey players:

A. Bear
B. Lion
C. Fox
D. Water bug

Er, really Alzner?

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by SeattleCapsFan on Dec 21, 2010 9:56 AM EST reply actions  

Water bug?? O_o Oookay.

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by WordsOnIce on Dec 21, 2010 10:29 AM EST up reply actions  

I’ve heard that one before, usually in regards to players like Gilbert Perreault, Denis Savard, Maxim Afinogenov, and other shifty guys who move really well on the ice.

by Wheeler on Dec 21, 2010 10:32 AM EST up reply actions  

I just picture the poor little things spinning in a circle.

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by WordsOnIce on Dec 21, 2010 10:33 AM EST up reply actions  

I don’t think anyone thought of Nylander as a water-bug….

Denis Savard was often referred to as a water bug though…

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by MikeL-Pivonka on Dec 21, 2010 1:25 PM EST up reply actions  

I was gonna say, water bugs move damned fast, change directions near-instantly… And ice is water… I’ve seen worse metaphors.

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by Ninjak on Dec 21, 2010 10:45 AM EST up reply actions  

I dunno, I think it kinda fits. The guy is tiny, fast, and maneuverable.

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by RockinRed4Life on Dec 21, 2010 10:40 AM EST up reply actions  

And all you see are the ripples…

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by EmilyB on Dec 21, 2010 10:57 AM EST up reply actions  

CB on Matthew Lombardi

Friend of the Rink Chris Burton has written a good piece on Matthew Lombardi and his uncertainties in coming back from his early season concussion in the Preds SBN blog On the Forecheck. Check it out.

http://www.ontheforecheck.com/2010/12/20/1887273/quelling-frustration-the-uncertainty-behind-matthew-lombardis-injury

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by Rather Bengt on Dec 21, 2010 10:35 AM EST reply actions  

No prob. Good work.

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by Rather Bengt on Dec 21, 2010 11:07 AM EST up reply actions  

This article got me thinking about the players who many fans wanted the Caps to go after this summer. Belanger has been durable, but his numbers are so-so. The rest of the guys have spent most of the season on IR. There’s no predicting that the injuries would have happened with the Caps, but when you sign older players, it’s always a strong possibility:
Willie Mitchell(LA)-15 Games-1G,4A
Matthew Lombardi(Nashville)2 Games-0G, 0A
Mike Modano (Det)-20 Games-2G,6A
Belanger(Pho)-32 Games-4G,11A

by b.orr4 on Dec 21, 2010 12:54 PM EST up reply actions  

With Mitchell, you knew he wasn’t going to be playing until November. With Modano, you knew he could get hurt any time (seniors tend to have brittle bones). Lombardi’s the one I’m most surprised at — he’s been a very durable player throughout his career, but concussions can change that almost immediately.

by RCheli on Dec 21, 2010 1:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Mitchell also just went back on the injured list as “week-to-week”

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Dec 21, 2010 1:34 PM EST up reply actions  

He did? I missed that. The guy can’t get a break it seems. I was watching HNIC on Saturday and they talked a lot about Sami Salo and how it’ll be weeks until he can play still. That was some shot to the nuts he took.

by RCheli on Dec 21, 2010 3:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Puck Daddy

Whenever Puck Daddy does an article on the Caps, the ensuing comments are relentless. I can only take so many “Bruce Boudreau is Pillsbury Dough Boy” comments… Such hatred on the internet.

by _Skullduggery_ on Dec 21, 2010 11:30 AM EST reply actions  

It’s open commenting with no moderation on Yahoo!. Not exactly going to attract those with the highest IQ.

Go look at some of the comments on their political articles. They make the PD ones look like Harvard grads.

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Dec 21, 2010 11:35 AM EST up reply actions  

I make that mistake too often at work…makes me want to curl into the fetal position and cry.

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by SeattleCapsFan on Dec 21, 2010 11:40 AM EST up reply actions  

So do I. I do it almost as a sociological experiment to see just how dumb some people can be.

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Dec 21, 2010 11:48 AM EST up reply actions  

I had a joke about a forum with open commenting and no moderation, but I left my accompanying flame suit at home today.

"So if I drank a bottle of rum (not really, it was about 2/3 of a bottle) starting at 1p and continuing through the Caps game does that mean I need to do that every Caps game from here on?"

"I would, but I’d also get yourself onto the organ transfer list as well just in case."

by Bald Pollack on Dec 21, 2010 11:44 AM EST up reply actions  

Plus, he’s clearly Don Rickles, people.

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by D'ohboy on Dec 21, 2010 11:35 AM EST up reply actions  

Your first mistake was even bothering to read Puck Daddy comments.

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by Laich It Or Lump It on Dec 21, 2010 11:36 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Jordan Staal sighting in PGH.

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by EmilyB on Dec 21, 2010 12:00 PM EST reply actions  

Ne needs to come back and take some points from Crosby, and add them to my fantasy team.

You had me at no problem.

by Ninjak on Dec 21, 2010 3:32 PM EST up reply actions  

In what sense? Hooks Orpik says no way he plays in the Winter Classic and that he probably won’t be ready until the end of January at earliest. He predicts this is going to be a lost season for J. Staal.

Drunk Guy: "Alex Ovechkin is playing more like Magic Johnson than Michael Jordan this year."
Laichitor: "He has AIDS?"

by Rob Parker on Dec 21, 2010 5:38 PM EST up reply actions  

given his luck this past year, I say J.Staal has yet another freak injury in February.

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by RedBirdie on Dec 21, 2010 10:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Buy or Sell

Apparently, Peter Forsberg had a successful first outing in his latest comeback attempt.

If he’s healthy and available (well, as healthy as Forsberg gets), Foppa could be our #2C come February. Buy or Sell?

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by D'ohboy on Dec 21, 2010 12:03 PM EST reply actions  

Buy if he’ll take one year at league minimum, or close to league minimum. Is he allowed to play in the NHL this season, having played games in Sweden? I can’t remember what the rules are on that.

"Now wait a minute. This is just purely a social call. You know, just two adults getting a stew on, man."

by The Ghost of Bebop on Dec 21, 2010 12:05 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m pretty sure he’s an UFA so he can do whatever he want.

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by zephyr on Dec 21, 2010 12:06 PM EST up reply actions  

The way I see it, if he’s willing to come to the Caps for cheap, the worst that happens is we eat his cap hit.

"Now wait a minute. This is just purely a social call. You know, just two adults getting a stew on, man."

by The Ghost of Bebop on Dec 21, 2010 12:06 PM EST up reply actions  

well that and any issues with roster slots and total # of contracts, I know with the injuries we’re full on roster slots, but I think we’ve still got a few contracts

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by Elliotte on Dec 21, 2010 12:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Sell. Love the guy’s heart and all, but he’ll get injured again and that will be that.

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by fat_daddyo on Dec 21, 2010 12:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Really depends on what kind of deal he’d be willing to sign. If he’ll come on as a rental, for a small amount of money, his cap hit will be minuscule and worth the risk, IMO.

"Now wait a minute. This is just purely a social call. You know, just two adults getting a stew on, man."

by The Ghost of Bebop on Dec 21, 2010 12:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Hell, why not. BUY.

Although, this is hilarious:

We WILL be in the year 2035, and I’m still going to be posting a "Foppa pining for comeback"…

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by zephyr on Dec 21, 2010 12:07 PM EST up reply actions  

In the year 2525…if man is still alive….if Peter Forsberg can survive…

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Dec 21, 2010 12:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Great. Now I’m going to have that terrible song in my head all day!

by RCheli on Dec 21, 2010 12:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Sell. I don’t see him making it more than a few games in the NHL before he gets hurt and retires again.

I don’t think there’s a bigger Forsberg booster on this site than I am (except maybe you and Jordan), but I just don’t think he can hold it together for the playoffs. I’m a reluctant Bayesian in his case; the future probably looks a lot like the past and the past says he’ll play less than half of his available games.

IF he’s healthy, there’s no doubt he’s the 2C on this team.

That’s a condition that won’t happen, though.

(God, I would love it if he were healthy)

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by Knee high to a duck on Dec 21, 2010 12:14 PM EST up reply actions  

the past says he’ll play less than half of his available games.

Oh, but those games!

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by D'ohboy on Dec 21, 2010 12:16 PM EST up reply actions  

I know. I know. I saw the Olympics, Foppa still has it. I’d sell my soul for a chance to wear a Caps Forsberg jersey to a game (does Laich give up 21?) if he was on the ice for the team (and you know about my aversion to jersey buying). I just don’t think he’d see the ice for longer than a couple of games at a time.

"Essentially, all models are wrong, but some are useful" George E.P. Box

by Knee high to a duck on Dec 21, 2010 12:31 PM EST up reply actions  

I don’t think there’s a bigger Forsberg booster on this site than I am (except maybe you and Jordan),

If this is a competition I think I win due to the fact that I have the longest tenure.

by Malin A on Dec 21, 2010 12:22 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

Dunno, how long? 1995 for me. I’m guessing 1994/Lillehammer for you, right?

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by D'ohboy on Dec 21, 2010 12:23 PM EST up reply actions  

I was a huge Nordiques fan in the early 90s and desperately wanted them to stay in Quebec. It was so obvious that they had a really terrific young core of players just waiting to explode. It’s unfortunate for that region that they weren’t able to see it happen.

Sacik, Nolan, Sundin, Kamensky, Foote, Kovalenko, Leschyshyn (I had to look up how to spell that), then Forsberg arrives. What a team. They just needed time to mature.

by RCheli on Dec 21, 2010 12:28 PM EST up reply actions  

You’re forgetting Lefebvre, for spelling difficulty. Don’t forget Martin Runcinsky or my fave, Adam Deadmarsh.

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by D'ohboy on Dec 21, 2010 12:35 PM EST up reply actions  

You win.

You had me at no problem.

by Ninjak on Dec 21, 2010 3:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Could be, could be. His intensity always drew me in; I’d have taken him over any player in the NHL from about 1998 to 2002, Jagr and Lemieux included.

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by Knee high to a duck on Dec 21, 2010 12:33 PM EST up reply actions  

What would you call this lineup??

1C Backstrom
2C Forsberg
3C Johansson

by jcgillen on Dec 21, 2010 12:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Tre Kronor, of course.

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by D'ohboy on Dec 21, 2010 12:20 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

There’s a really good Swedish restaurant here in Chicago called Tre Kronor. They serve a mean herring.

by RCheli on Dec 21, 2010 12:21 PM EST up reply actions  

It needs to have some play off of that. Like “Tre Krushor”

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Dec 21, 2010 12:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Meatballs

or The Ikea Trio

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Dec 21, 2010 12:20 PM EST up reply actions  

VIKINGS!

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by SeattleCapsFan on Dec 21, 2010 12:20 PM EST up reply actions  

SPAM!

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by D'ohboy on Dec 21, 2010 12:23 PM EST up reply actions  

I dunno, filled with question marks?

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by Kolzilla on Dec 21, 2010 12:38 PM EST up reply actions  

This probably isn’t a very apt analogy, but:

‘10-’11 Forsberg : Backstrom, Johansson :: ‘07-’08 Fedorov : Ovechkin, Semin ?

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by Laich It Or Lump It on Dec 21, 2010 12:20 PM EST up reply actions  

In what sense? Mackan is the clear odd man out there. I see the old man comparisons but AO and Semin were already forces in the NHL by ‘08 (even if Semin was still a little under the radar). Mackan isn’t there yet.

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by Rob Parker on Dec 21, 2010 5:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Does he even have two feet any more?

by RCheli on Dec 21, 2010 12:20 PM EST up reply actions  

We can rebuild him…

"Now wait a minute. This is just purely a social call. You know, just two adults getting a stew on, man."

by The Ghost of Bebop on Dec 21, 2010 12:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Question D’o that I could look up but am to lazy to do so: Back in the Avs glory years, they used Sakic and Forsberg on separate lines at center. Forsberg was flanked by Hejduk and Tanguay and Sakic by Deadmarsh and _______? I can’t remember the other winger—who was it?

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by Rather Bengt on Dec 21, 2010 12:31 PM EST up reply actions  

It was Valeri Kamensky wasn’t it?

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by Rather Bengt on Dec 21, 2010 12:35 PM EST up reply actions  

He played with Kamensky a little and with Scott Young, too.

They mixed up the lines pretty good in Colorado, which you can do with all that talent.

by RCheli on Dec 21, 2010 12:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Scott Young had totally skipped my mind. I forgot he had played there.

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by Rather Bengt on Dec 21, 2010 12:42 PM EST up reply actions  

He put up some really big numbers in the early 90s, but is mostly a forgotten player. He had a cannon for a shot and could, in a pinch, play defense.

by RCheli on Dec 21, 2010 12:48 PM EST up reply actions  

One-time 40-goal scorer also.

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by Rather Bengt on Dec 21, 2010 12:51 PM EST up reply actions  

What a 1-2C combo that was. Holy crap.

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by The Ghost of Bebop on Dec 21, 2010 12:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Um, it depended on the year. Kamensky at times, Lemiuex (Claude) at others. In 1996, Chris Simon played on his wing for a while.

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by D'ohboy on Dec 21, 2010 12:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Claude?

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Dec 21, 2010 12:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Wait… Lemieux played in the regular season? I thought he just showed up for the playoffs.

by RCheli on Dec 21, 2010 12:37 PM EST up reply actions  

he occasionally showed up for the regular season to do a turtle impression

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by RedBirdie on Dec 21, 2010 3:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Jocelyn

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by Rather Bengt on Dec 21, 2010 12:46 PM EST up reply actions  

The first sentence on that card reads as the ultimate backhanded compliment.

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Dec 21, 2010 1:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Indeed it is.

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by Rather Bengt on Dec 21, 2010 2:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Sorry Joe B but Jocelyn was Claude’s younger bro.

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by Rather Bengt on Dec 21, 2010 2:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Podein?

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Dec 21, 2010 12:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Buy on a one year deal.

The guy is Peter Schumpmaker. Lord knows what a schump is, but you can bet your bippy his ancestors made them. What he's doing is far worse than crafting fine schumps.

by Steckel Me Elmo on Dec 21, 2010 12:47 PM EST up reply actions  

WJC Tryout for Wey

Not looking good for Caps Prospect Patrick Wey. He had an uphill battle to make the USA team D corps given his competition and it’s being reported he will be a scratch tonight.

Team is announced tomorrow morning; one more pre-tourney game tonight at 7 against the Czech Republic and Scratches for Team USA tonight: Brickley, Bjugstad, Nieto, Zucker, Oleksiak, Wey, Samuelsson. (source: twitter/USAH_AlexClark)

OT: See the FanPost I put together for tourney and tv coverage details.

by sk84fun_dc on Dec 21, 2010 2:51 PM EST reply actions  

It would help Wey’s chances if there was a guy named Will on the team.

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by Rather Bengt on Dec 21, 2010 2:55 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

:facepalm: or as you said earlier commenting on Linden Vey, oy "w"ey

by sk84fun_dc on Dec 21, 2010 3:15 PM EST up reply actions  

I liked it.

"It's always good to have vikings."

by gfcaps fan on Dec 21, 2010 3:33 PM EST up reply actions  

And maybe I read into the scratches incorrectly, at least one fan who follows Team USA/prospects closely thinks this means there’s a chance Wey/Samuelsson (teammates) will make the team not that they will be cut.

A couple of forwards among the scratches look like locks to me (Zucker, in particular), but the D scratches I assumed they wanted to get a look at the D they are considering taking so a scratch wasn’t favorable.

We will know tomorrow morning.

by sk84fun_dc on Dec 21, 2010 3:48 PM EST up reply actions  

More injuries for the Isles

Geez, well, one is not a surprise, but tough season for Mottau…

KatieStrangNYI Katie Strang

“BREAKING: #Isles d-man Mike Mottau done for the year with hip injury (torn labrum) and G Rick DiPietro placed on IR with knee swelling”

“Right hip injury for Mottau was a lingering thing, pre-dated his eye injury suffered last month. Will undergo surgery and miss rest of ssn”

by sk84fun_dc on Dec 21, 2010 3:55 PM EST reply actions  

Hindsight is 20/20, and of course the specified injuries wouldn’t necessarily have happened if the particular player had signed here, but there are several players that Rinkers would have liked GMGM to sign (at the right price, of course) who are having injury plagued/ending seasons.

Mitchell
Mottau
Lombardi

Who’d I miss?

"It's always good to have vikings."

by gfcaps fan on Dec 21, 2010 3:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Of that list, Mottau was the one I was most keen on. It’s a shame the injury bug bit him this year,

The OatesStache: Tickling taints since 1975.

by Rather Bengt on Dec 21, 2010 4:08 PM EST up reply actions  

IR with knee swelling. not a good sign, imo.

Pledge Drive 2010-2011: SO KIDS CAN!! Help build a playground

by RedBirdie on Dec 21, 2010 4:02 PM EST up reply actions  

I know he’s become a joke among some in the hockey community, but there comes a point when you hope the guy’s just not doing any long-term, serious damage to himself by continuing to play.

Eat, drink, and be merry! And then drink some more.

by SmallZ827 on Dec 21, 2010 4:04 PM EST up reply actions  

He’s doing significant good for his bank account by not retiring. If he wants to put a price on his knees, it’s his prerogative.

You had me at no problem.

by Ninjak on Dec 21, 2010 4:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Agreed. It’s not like he’s dealing with 8 concussions and fighting through it. He may have achy knees when he’s older, but join the club.

Drunk Guy: "Alex Ovechkin is playing more like Magic Johnson than Michael Jordan this year."
Laichitor: "He has AIDS?"

by Rob Parker on Dec 21, 2010 5:44 PM EST up reply actions  

I know. I feel the same way about Rick as I do about some of the chronically injured gymnasts I see. But at least Rick is an adult; if he wants to push through knee/hip/full body injuries, I hope it’s his decision and his alone.

Pledge Drive 2010-2011: SO KIDS CAN!! Help build a playground

by RedBirdie on Dec 21, 2010 4:27 PM EST up reply actions  

As per Carrera lines from this mourning skate:

Forwards
Ovechkin-Backstrom-Semin
Laich-Perreault-Knuble
Chimera-Johansson-A. Gordon
Beagle-Steckel-Bradley
Defense
Hannan-Green
Alzner-Carlson
Erskine-Poti
Goaltenders
Neuvirth
Varlamov

Looks like A.Gordon is getting the vote of confidence to prove his mettle on the 3rd line in the absence of Eric Fehr.

Bruce Boudreau when asked about Brooks Laich's return to the lineup, he said: "He just adds another dimension to our team. If it was puzzle, he just fits that thing. He completes us."

Brooks Laich completing everything from teams to tires and everything in between.

by breaklance on Dec 21, 2010 4:43 PM EST reply actions  

Mourning skate in honor of Fehr’s loss?

You had me at no problem.

by Ninjak on Dec 21, 2010 4:51 PM EST up reply actions  

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