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That’s the answer, right? Steckel is the new goat around here.

You had me at no problem.

by Ninjak on Dec 2, 2010 7:46 AM EST reply actions  

I don’t think so. But he probably has the worst current contract on the team.

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by J.P. on Dec 2, 2010 7:48 AM EST up reply actions  

Performance vs contract expectations can turn people against a player. Stecks has been playing better of late, but I’m sure plenty would rather see him traded and Perreault brought up.

You had me at no problem.

by Ninjak on Dec 2, 2010 8:01 AM EST up reply actions  

Performance vs contract expectations can turn people against a player.

No doubt.

Stecks has been playing better of late

Agreed.

I’m sure plenty would rather see him traded and Perreault brought up.

I’m not sure they’re related, but I’d certainly be in favor of the former.

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by J.P. on Dec 2, 2010 8:04 AM EST up reply actions  

It sure seems like some Avs fans lacked appreciation for Hannan’s style of play in light of what he was paid.

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by bigonetimer on Dec 2, 2010 8:12 AM EST up reply actions  

I’d be pissed if we were paying a near-Green salary for 18 mins a night.

You had me at no problem.

by Ninjak on Dec 2, 2010 8:22 AM EST up reply actions  

Well the 18 a night is this year and for the last few he’s been up around 20 and one of their best D so how much can you really complain? He’s one of the few that wasn’t slaughtered by SJS.

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by Rob Parker on Dec 2, 2010 2:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Not knocking the guy. Just saying, people tend to have a “what have you done for me lately?” attitude.

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by Ninjak on Dec 2, 2010 2:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Very true.

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by Rob Parker on Dec 2, 2010 2:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Poti’s isn’t worse? Extending a (now) 5/6 Dman who’s often injured for 2 years and paying him around $3M a year seems worse to me.

And Movember heroics aside, I don’t think anyone here considered Erskine worth $1.25M a year.

And what about Sloan.

Now if we’re talking length of the contract – I can see the point, but it’s not like $1.1M is going to tie GMGM’s hands nor is it unmovable. But Steckel’s skillset and stats are comparable to Gaustad’s in Buffalo and his contract is much worse. Steckel is durable, in his prime, and you know what you are going to get with him.

by Gin and Tonic on Dec 2, 2010 8:29 AM EST up reply actions  

Ah, but I said current contract – Pot’s deal that you reference doesn’t kick in until next July.

Erskine’s isn’t worse because of term; Sloan’s isn’t worse because of dollars and term.

And just because we know what we’re getting with Stecks doesn’t mean what we’re getting is worth $1.1m for two more seasons after this one. Not to mention the fact that $1.1m very definitely could tie GMGM’s hands and Steckel could be hard to move because he has a bad contract. I mean, it’s not “epic fail” bad, but I still think it’s the worst contract on the team presently.

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by J.P. on Dec 2, 2010 8:37 AM EST up reply actions  

Poti’s extension looks worse every day. If Hannan is the guy GMGM has been looking 3-4 years for, and he plays well this season, the Caps will have too $$$ locked up in our current D corps to re-sign him. I guess we’ll see how it goes, but at the moment, it looks like Poti could’ve been had for a song AFTER this season.

by Rhino20 on Dec 2, 2010 9:59 AM EST up reply actions  

there was no way to know Poti was going to be this injured. We all knew about the wonky groin, but I think even the most pessimistic among of us didn’t expect this.

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by RedBirdie on Dec 2, 2010 11:42 AM EST up reply actions  

Nobody can predict injuries, but he’s an older defenseman with diminishing talents. For a player like Poti (coming off a terrible postseason, IMO), giving him two years was a big mistake for his year 34 and 35 seasons.

by RCheli on Dec 2, 2010 12:05 PM EST up reply actions  

really, terrible postseason? I thought his play was unusually good in the post season, right up until he nearly lost his eye.

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by RedBirdie on Dec 2, 2010 12:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Rcheli, his post-season was fantastic. I’m not sure what you’re talking about.

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by The Ghost of Bebop on Dec 2, 2010 12:17 PM EST up reply actions  

You’re right. His post-season was very good. It was the last 20 games of the regular season that I thought he looked like he lost a step (stride?).

by RCheli on Dec 2, 2010 12:19 PM EST up reply actions  

And considering he has had lots of groin injuries, which tend to recur.

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by Rob Parker on Dec 2, 2010 2:33 PM EST up reply actions  

there was no way to know Poti was going to be this injured.

You just got yourself into an argument whenever F&B wakes up.

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by Killer_Carlson on Dec 2, 2010 1:43 PM EST up reply actions  

I know. But injured for 20 games, this early?

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by RedBirdie on Dec 2, 2010 1:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Why even bother arguing with someone who went to a cut rate university like NYU?

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by fat_daddyo on Dec 2, 2010 2:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Me-ow.

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Dec 2, 2010 2:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Hey now. We NYU’ers are nothing if not elitist pricks, and I thought that’s what this blog’s all about.

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by SmallZ827 on Dec 2, 2010 2:13 PM EST up reply actions  

I’ll be sure to ignore them if any NYU alumni pop up.

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by Killer_Carlson on Dec 2, 2010 2:14 PM EST up reply actions  

I was debating going with “Syracuse” at the end there, to bring JP into the fray, but I thought better of it.

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by fat_daddyo on Dec 2, 2010 2:21 PM EST up reply actions  

First of all, get the school right if you want to talk shit. Second of all, we went to an elite school and I promise you don’t want to go down this road.

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by Rob Parker on Dec 2, 2010 2:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Wait, an elite school? I didn’t know you went to St John’s.

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by fat_daddyo on Dec 2, 2010 2:44 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Good god man, don’t anger the beast!

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by SeattleCapsFan on Dec 2, 2010 2:47 PM EST up reply actions  

BURN

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Dec 2, 2010 2:48 PM EST up reply actions  

The hook is baited, the cast has been made…will our quarry bite?

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by fat_daddyo on Dec 2, 2010 2:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Walk away boy.

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by Rob Parker on Dec 2, 2010 2:54 PM EST up reply actions  

I’ll admit as a bystander, I am amused every time I see one of the school name tossing threads start up again. I have a good memory, but haven’t registered where anyone went other than JP, so always amusing to read these.

by sk84fun_dc on Dec 2, 2010 2:56 PM EST up reply actions  

He went to Colgate, which is what I’ve been trying to bait him into saying, so that I could unleash a torrent of smack.

It seems he figured it out, which is what happens when you cross swords with smart guys.

Maybe next time.

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by fat_daddyo on Dec 2, 2010 2:57 PM EST up reply actions  

People know where I went, and I only bring it up in connection with NHL players that are from Colgate, not to say how smart I am. My history of smakedowns speaks for itself.

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by Rob Parker on Dec 2, 2010 2:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Wasn’t there a basketball player as well from Colgate? Adonal Foyle?

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by STLSpidey on Dec 2, 2010 3:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah. Adopted from Africa by a couple of professors and then he grew up in Hamilton (good thing his baseline was Africa) and went to Colgate and then bounced around the NBA. He was before my time. That Falcons safety that got arrested for solicitation also went to Colgate. I mostly just care about the hockey stuff, though.

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by Rob Parker on Dec 2, 2010 3:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Who was the recipient of the worst contract this decade in the NBA, according to this site

I remember when he signed that. Could not believe it. Chump change nowadays though.

by Cluster on Dec 2, 2010 3:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Not before my time. It was great to see him get crapped on by real hoopsters when they played ’Cuse.

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by J.P. on Dec 2, 2010 4:22 PM EST up reply actions  

You can have the real hoopsters. Let me know when you get a hockey team.

And I’ll take a class act that isn’t that good over “snitches get stitches” any day of the week.

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by Rob Parker on Dec 2, 2010 4:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah. One of the econ professors at Colgate was reffing in some Caribbean league and saw him play. He was able to basically adopt him to get him to play at Colgate.

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by Killer_Carlson on Dec 2, 2010 3:03 PM EST up reply actions  

In The Blind Side, that was considered a possible NCAA violation.

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by STLSpidey on Dec 2, 2010 3:05 PM EST up reply actions  

You sure he wasn’t from Africa?

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by Rob Parker on Dec 2, 2010 3:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Positive. Heard the story straight from the prof’s mouth during one of his classes.

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by Killer_Carlson on Dec 2, 2010 3:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Well that sucks. Caribbean >>>> Hamilton, NY.

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by Rob Parker on Dec 2, 2010 3:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Wikipedia says St. Vincent and the Grenadines. Huzzah!

More fun facts: Foyle graduated magna cum laude with a major in history, and in 2001 he founded the non-profit group Democracy Matters.

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by Killer_Carlson on Dec 2, 2010 3:10 PM EST up reply actions  

He would have been a better choice for graduation speaker than that lady you got.

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by Rob Parker on Dec 2, 2010 4:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Or the President we both got.

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by Killer_Carlson on Dec 2, 2010 5:42 PM EST up reply actions  

And I totally baited you below. I was sad that you didn’t bite.

by Wheeler on Dec 2, 2010 5:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes, I know a few posters went to Colgate, just not sure which ones. While many schools/backgrounds are undisclosed, based on the discussions around here, plenty of educated people, both the college degree types and others :)

by sk84fun_dc on Dec 2, 2010 3:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Alas, he will not.

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by fat_daddyo on Dec 2, 2010 2:56 PM EST up reply actions  

That’s how groin injuries work. They can pop up at any time and they don’t go away. I can’t say any number of missed games would really surprise me with Poti.

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by Killer_Carlson on Dec 2, 2010 2:13 PM EST up reply actions  

They can pop up at any time and they don’t go away.

Ah, 9th grade…

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by fat_daddyo on Dec 2, 2010 2:20 PM EST up reply actions  

No way to know? You’ve got to be kidding. Go back and look at the threads that blew up when he got extended.

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by Rob Parker on Dec 2, 2010 2:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Erskine at $1.25MM is not a bad deal for a 7D. Only a few hundred grand more than a Hershey replacement, and I think we can all agree he’s quite a bit better than Fahey.

Poti… Well, you pay through the nose for average veteran defensemen in this league. That’s just how it is.

Sloan hurts right now. His and Steckel’s are the two contracts I think I would most like to see go away.

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by Ninjak on Dec 2, 2010 8:37 AM EST up reply actions  

Erskine at $1.25MM is not a bad deal for a 7D.

When 4/5/6 guys like Mottau (800K) and Salei (1.1m) are available for less, it’s a bad contract. It’s not currently the worst on the team, because paying a one-trick pony 4th-liner $1.1m over several years is worse. But that’s still a terrible contract.

And I hear you talk the talk, but I don't see you walk the walk and I still don't believe a thing you say.

by D'ohboy on Dec 2, 2010 8:45 AM EST up reply actions  

Mitigated (at this point) by the fact that it’s expiring.

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by J.P. on Dec 2, 2010 8:47 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah. I was judging it more based on when it was signed. 3 x $1.25m was ludicrous at the time for a guy who has never more than 55 games in an NHL season.

And I hear you talk the talk, but I don't see you walk the walk and I still don't believe a thing you say.

by D'ohboy on Dec 2, 2010 8:54 AM EST up reply actions  

No diggity.

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by J.P. on Dec 2, 2010 8:55 AM EST up reply actions  

Erskine’s extension was two years, not three.

by Cluster on Dec 2, 2010 12:25 PM EST up reply actions  

I stand corrected.

And I hear you talk the talk, but I don't see you walk the walk and I still don't believe a thing you say.

by D'ohboy on Dec 2, 2010 2:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Any chance I have to rebut your Erskine hate, I take it. I don’t get many chances, unfortunately.

by Cluster on Dec 2, 2010 3:17 PM EST up reply actions  

But that’s still a terrible contract.

Maybe a bad contract. . .but a terrible contract? Darryl Sutter would like a word

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by kingzman264 on Dec 2, 2010 8:49 AM EST up reply actions  

Darryl Sutter would like a word

Why? So he can ask me how to hand out really terrible contracts like Glen Sather?

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by D'ohboy on Dec 2, 2010 8:52 AM EST up reply actions  

Well played.

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by J.P. on Dec 2, 2010 8:42 AM EST up reply actions  

I wonder what the next shift this dude took looked like.

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by J.P. on Dec 2, 2010 7:50 AM EST reply actions  

Hah, I’ve seen that video before. . .I can’t imagine he made any friends with that Easy Button; but, that is one bad-ass hockey celebration

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by kingzman264 on Dec 2, 2010 8:00 AM EST up reply actions  

It’s no Stjarnan FC, but it’s pretty good.

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by Bald Pollack on Dec 2, 2010 8:03 AM EST up reply actions  

If Ovi had done that, Milbury’s head would have exploded.

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Dec 2, 2010 8:03 AM EST up reply actions  

I fully support Milbury’s head exploding.

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by boutros23 on Dec 2, 2010 8:08 AM EST up reply actions  

yeah, now we just gotta find someone with seats on the glass and set that one up

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by Elliotte on Dec 2, 2010 8:19 AM EST up reply actions  

If Ovi had done that, Milbury’s head would have exploded.

out of awesomess

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by kingzman264 on Dec 2, 2010 8:08 AM EST reply actions  

reply fail =<

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by kingzman264 on Dec 2, 2010 8:08 AM EST up reply actions  

I can’t believe how selfish Ovechkin is.

He had the chance to put the game away with an ENG, and instead he passed it to a teammate. Unforgivable.

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Dec 2, 2010 8:22 AM EST reply actions  

It’s because all he cares about are personal achievements and he knows he has a chance to set the record for the most assists in a season by a LW. No other way to explain the risky pass (who knows if the puck skips, Backstrom falls down or pulls a Patrik Stefan, etc.) versus just shooting on the gaping goal.

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by J.P. on Dec 2, 2010 8:24 AM EST up reply actions  

He’s just sick of scoring because every time he wins a trophy he has to go to friggin’ Ikea, which reminds him of how much better Backstrom’s country is doing financially than his own.

by Brainumbc on Dec 2, 2010 8:29 AM EST up reply actions   4 recs

Any good Canadian boy from Ontario would have buried it.

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Dec 2, 2010 8:29 AM EST up reply actions  

Yo gotta hand it to whoever that was covering Ovechkin at that point though. He tried his darndest to stop that pass and almost did. If it was any other pair of players other than a superstar tandem that pass would have gotten blocked or botched.

by Brainumbc on Dec 2, 2010 8:32 AM EST up reply actions  

Seriously I keep watching the last few seconds of the game at nhl.com and I have NO IDEA how he got that pass off. It’s like it disappears off his stick and teleports to backstrom’s

If the fox puck tracker was still in use, the puck would have moved but the chip would have just fallen to the ice

by Brainumbc on Dec 2, 2010 8:36 AM EST up reply actions  

On the Blues broadcast and again on On The Fly, the focus was not on Ovie not scoring again, but on his pass. And they didn’t comment on his unselfishness, but on the quality of the pass as he squeezed around the D laying in front of him and made a perfect dish to Backstrom.

I’d like to think the media is coming around to point out that the Caps are winning with better D and secondary scoring.

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by STLSpidey on Dec 2, 2010 8:39 AM EST up reply actions  

I agree.

That being said, the one that always gets me is the comment that Green is getting better at defense. This comment almost always follows something along the lines of, “His offensive numbers aren’t looking as high as they once were.” Unfortunately, the commentators are somewhat remiss, in that they forget that Green has played quite a few games less than the other leading point candidates

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by kingzman264 on Dec 2, 2010 8:47 AM EST up reply actions  

That comment is exactly what Panger said in the first period last night.

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by STLSpidey on Dec 2, 2010 8:54 AM EST up reply actions  

They did a good job, but that irked me

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by kingzman264 on Dec 2, 2010 4:09 PM EST up reply actions  

That blues broadcast was actually really good. A good, even handed, and appropriately excitable broadcast crew they have there

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by renstar on Dec 2, 2010 9:56 AM EST up reply actions  

They’re generally pretty good…although I heard they referred to our goalies as “Varmarmov” and “David” Neuvirth. Oops.

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by Becca H on Dec 2, 2010 10:02 AM EST up reply actions  

The guy on the radio said “Er-skyne” instead of “Er-skin”

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Dec 2, 2010 10:06 AM EST up reply actions  

I like Panger, but, yeah, he did refer to David Neuvirth. He got the Noy-virt part correct though. He’s still a fun guy to have call a game.

The PxP guy got a little tiresome in that every Blues shot drew “AND A DRIIIVE…” even if it ended up going wide by 6 feet. But all in all, they did a nice job, had obviously done their homework, knew the Caps players and a bit about them, where they were from, who they played Junior with, etc.

No obnoxious homerism, either, while still being Blues guys.

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by fat_daddyo on Dec 2, 2010 10:24 AM EST up reply actions  

Holy, jumping, you gotta be kidding me

by 718CapsFan on Dec 2, 2010 10:30 AM EST up reply actions  

Ha! I love Panger…

The “DRIIIVE” thing makes me nutty – that’s a Doc Emrick special and one of my least favorite things about him, so I’m annoyed to learn others do it, too. Occasionally, Doc, it’s just a shot.

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by Becca H on Dec 2, 2010 10:32 AM EST up reply actions  

Still my favorite commentator exclamation :)

by HolyJumpin on Dec 2, 2010 11:18 AM EST up reply actions  

The homerism comes when the Blues score a critical goal to tie or go ahead or salt away a victory.

John Kelly then goes “Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.” It’s a bit annoying.

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by STLSpidey on Dec 2, 2010 11:52 AM EST up reply actions  

I’m not sure that’s homerism as much as it’s just his shtick. I agree that it’s an obnoxious shtick though.

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by Killer_Carlson on Dec 2, 2010 1:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Ack! Their commentary on the Too-Many-Men penalty was pretty gross.

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by bilspacecadet on Dec 2, 2010 11:43 AM EST up reply actions  

They aren’t bad or homerrific, but they’re in need of a fact checker. Things I learned last night watching them:

- Mike Green was a second round pick by Detroit acquired in a trade for Lang
- Neuvirth was a first round pick

by Ginga on Dec 2, 2010 11:50 AM EST up reply actions  

I think he was selfishly shooting for the goal but his hand started to shake and he missed.

Sid would have done the same, but the puck would have magically spun softly into the net and he would have been awarded both a goal and an assist.

Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...

by dcsportsfan1 on Dec 2, 2010 8:40 AM EST up reply actions  

I’m not convinced he wasn’t trying to score.

by Ginga on Dec 2, 2010 11:50 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, count me in this camp. He knew he didn’t have a layup, and he knew Backstrom was there, so he knew that if he missed, he needed to miss wide-left.

You had me at no problem.

by Ninjak on Dec 2, 2010 11:53 AM EST up reply actions  

If it was Crosby, angels would have borne the puck into the net on their wings.

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by ThePeerless on Dec 2, 2010 8:42 AM EST up reply actions  

I think I figured out why Ovechkin isn’t scoring.

His trophy case is tiny and he only has room for one more piece of take-home hardware

And he would prefer the Conn Smythe

by Brainumbc on Dec 2, 2010 8:22 AM EST reply actions   3 recs

Me likey.

Maybe he saw how easy it was for Henrik Sedin last year with 2ndary Assists and just decided to be the dish-master

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by kingzman264 on Dec 2, 2010 8:38 AM EST up reply actions  

I like that idea… although have you seen the Conn Smythe trophy? It’s freaking huge! It’s an almost full-scale replica of Maple Leaf Gardens….

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by MikeL-Pivonka on Dec 2, 2010 11:49 AM EST up reply actions  

Damn, Ovechkin will have to go to IKEA again! Ovechkin no like ikea!

by Brainumbc on Dec 2, 2010 1:03 PM EST up reply actions  

In Soviet Russia

…IKEA comes to your house and you box up your furniture.

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by MikeL-Pivonka on Dec 2, 2010 1:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Or carry it on your back.

You had me at no problem.

by Ninjak on Dec 2, 2010 1:50 PM EST up reply actions  

while someone asks you about banks

by vtcapsfan99 on Dec 2, 2010 2:30 PM EST up reply actions  

I know Sid’s having a great season

As we consider the player named Sidney Crosby as he tears into the second quarter of the NHL season, we wonder aloud what it was like to cover Albert Einstein or Leonardo da Vinci or Thomas Edison in their prime.
 
Did reporters write that Einstein’s big brain was working overtime?

Did they write that da Vinci was painting like an artist using two brushes?

Did they write that Edison was inventing like a demon?

Were there moments within the accepted framework of greatness that demanded further boundaries be established to adequately consider such greatness? Were there times when plain old “great” just didn’t cut it?

But holy hyperbole, Batman.

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Dec 2, 2010 8:34 AM EST reply actions  

I think Burnside finished that article into a moist towel.

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Dec 2, 2010 8:35 AM EST up reply actions   3 recs

I don’t have time to get through the article, but those quote are just amazing. He’s good, very good – but my goodness that is over the top. How do you actually ask a guy like that tough questions when you so bluntly just said he’s God.

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by STLSpidey on Dec 2, 2010 8:37 AM EST up reply actions  

An impressive display of one handed typing for sure.

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by dcsportsfan1 on Dec 2, 2010 8:37 AM EST up reply actions  

I mean, I defend Sid as much as anyone does, but it’s stuff like this that makes people HATE the guy. And it’s not his fault.

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Dec 2, 2010 8:45 AM EST up reply actions  

First The Crosby made heaven & earth. The earth was without form and void, and darkness was upon the face of the deep; and the Spirit of The Crosby was moving over the face of the waters. And The Crosby said, “Let there be light”; and there was light. And The Crosby saw that the light was good; and The Crosby separated the light from the darkness. The Crosby called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And there was evening and there was morning, one day

by Brainumbc on Dec 2, 2010 8:39 AM EST up reply actions  

His eyes as clear as centuries.

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by EmilyB on Dec 2, 2010 9:26 AM EST up reply actions  

Jesus. Somewhat related, this headline from Y!: “Crosby not quite NHL’s highest-paid player”

Sid is mentioned in 10th paragraph.

I honestly feel for the dude – there’s no way in hell he would want all of this attention (especially the unwarranted stuff like Y! using his name in a headline just to draw people in).

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by J.P. on Dec 2, 2010 8:41 AM EST up reply actions  

The Burnside article is so gushing and sycophantic, it’s almost creepy.

It reads like something out of Teen Beat.

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Dec 2, 2010 8:44 AM EST up reply actions  

I’ll feel the line’s been crossed when we see Sidney Crosby Jergen’s ads.

by DrinkingPartner on Dec 2, 2010 8:45 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

If that article is creeping you out, be prepared to be totally freaked once the NHL starts its push towards the Winter Classic. Bylsma has already gushed that viewers are going to love Crosby after the HBO special and I can only imagine how the NHL Network will be portraying his Godliness for the two weeks leading up to the game.

by b.orr4 on Dec 2, 2010 9:07 AM EST up reply actions  

It’s HBO. Expect a lot of locker room shots of Sid in a towel being all aw, shucksy.

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by WordsOnIce on Dec 2, 2010 9:08 AM EST up reply actions  

HBO’s new series. NHL meets taxicab confessions

by Brainumbc on Dec 2, 2010 9:09 AM EST up reply actions  

On BL21’s interview with 1067TheFan this week, he mentioned how there would be “a couple of guys” on the Pens team that would be acting out as camera hogs on the upcoming HBO show. One of the interviewers assumed Crosby (probably the only one they know of), but he said it wasn’t him he was thinking about. I’d assume Talbot was one of them. Maybe Cooke’s the other??

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by bagace on Dec 2, 2010 10:01 AM EST up reply actions  

Perhaps. Maybe Fleury, too – he’s also a bit of a character, and Laich knows him well from their WJC days.

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by Becca H on Dec 2, 2010 10:03 AM EST up reply actions  

It may be interesting to see what Sid does, but we all know that he will say absolutely nothing worth hearing.

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by Ninjak on Dec 2, 2010 9:11 AM EST up reply actions  

I actually thought in the preview he sounded relatively interesting – he’s not a character like Ovi or Brooks or (ugh) Talbot but I liked hearing him talk about playing outdoors as a kid. Maybe he’ll let his guard down for this thing and we’ll get to see more of the “real” him.

You know, like this side.

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by Becca H on Dec 2, 2010 9:21 AM EST up reply actions  

Ugh. Of course he has “Friends” eps memorized.

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by Ninjak on Dec 2, 2010 9:37 AM EST up reply actions  

Yes, that’s…bad….ahem. :hides:

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by Becca H on Dec 2, 2010 9:49 AM EST up reply actions  

I don’t necessarily feel bad for him. He’s making a great living doing what he loves to do and has been wildly successful at doing it. He knew what kind of attention was coming his way when he came into the League. Honeslty, if he didn’t want all the attention, he wasn’t being forced to play hockey. I view attention like this as part of the downside of being not quite the highest-paid player in the NHL.

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by dcsportsfan1 on Dec 2, 2010 9:00 AM EST up reply actions  

Honeslty, if he didn’t want all the attention, he wasn’t being forced to play hockey.

Well, of course. And I’m sure the joy he derives from playing far outweigh the negatives (by approximately 8.7 million per year). But given his choice, I’m sure he’d rather just play hockey than be treated like Justin Bieber.

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by J.P. on Dec 2, 2010 9:13 AM EST up reply actions   2 recs

We kid Sid about his Crosbot personality, but he really has handled the attention side of his job pretty well. Boring, no doubt, but he seems to be pretty well managed…unlike a certain Global Icon who is going back home tonight.

Speaking of $8.7M, is Sid going to keep up the $8.7M AAV routine with his next contract? If I were him, I’d change my number to 98 prior to my UFA season.

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by dcsportsfan1 on Dec 2, 2010 9:48 AM EST up reply actions  

The League will amend its rules to allow for three-digit numbers so he can keep it real.

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by J.P. on Dec 2, 2010 9:51 AM EST up reply actions  

Not to mention if he changed his number they’d have to add/subtract seats at the Consol Energy Center.

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by dcsportsfan1 on Dec 2, 2010 10:15 AM EST up reply actions  

Lord knows, he’ll be able to name his price up to 20% of the cap if he’s willing to leave Pitt. But he’s a good Canadian boy. He’ll play for league minimum.

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by Ninjak on Dec 2, 2010 9:52 AM EST up reply actions  

unlike a certain Global Icon who is going back home tonight.

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by Bald Pollack on Dec 2, 2010 9:53 AM EST up reply actions  

No, silly – Erskine vs. Dallas.

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by J.P. on Dec 2, 2010 9:54 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Was going to type that, then I went for a pitch out of the strike zone.

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by Bald Pollack on Dec 2, 2010 9:55 AM EST up reply actions  

Pssh. We all know the real Return of the King happens December 11th when Colorado comes to town.

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Dec 2, 2010 10:09 AM EST up reply actions  

Actually, I was thinking about myself when I get home from work. No doubt my wife will treat my like the Cavs fans will treat Bron-Bron.

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by dcsportsfan1 on Dec 2, 2010 10:13 AM EST up reply actions  

Okay, this scores high on the Creep Factor scale. Sid might want to put some bushes with thorns in them outside his windows.

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by WordsOnIce on Dec 2, 2010 9:00 AM EST up reply actions  

In 2007-2008 Alex Ovechkin had a season that was quite literally “for the ages,” having set a record for goals by a left wing and, given the era, perhaps the most dominating goal scoring season in the history of the sport — certainly by a player not named “Gretzky.” And in the end, what did he have for it? Four trophies and a first round playoff exit.

Sidney Crosby is on a pace for a 57-73-130 season. You could argue, given the era, that such a season would rank among the most productive in NHL history (although his being on a pace for a plus-minus less than half what Ovechkin put up last year while missing ten games, plus the fact that he is 30th among forwards for highest goals scored against/on ice (Ovechkin is 86th) makes me wonder a bit).

But like Ovechkin in 2008, Crosby has a problem in 2011. That team around him isn’t really all that good, certainly not as good as the roster in Philadelphia or in Washington. Truth be told, the inconsistency of Marc-Andre Fleury makes it a near certainty that it is his performance — not Crosby’s — that will determine just how far the Penguins go in the spring. If Fleury has a spring time that looks like November, the Penguins can go far. If he has one that looks like October, one and done looks more likely.

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by ThePeerless on Dec 2, 2010 9:03 AM EST up reply actions   3 recs

And the difference to the media, right or wrong, is that Crosby is a winner and a leader that can overcome these problems.

Ovechkin hasn’t shown he can do that, so the Caps will carry the repeated moniker of not having enough defense and having suspect goalies. Right now, I think I would take Varly and Neuvy over Fleury and Johnson. We’ll see how the season progresses.

Put differently, the Pens are good until proven otherwise. The Caps are not as good until proven otherwise.

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by STLSpidey on Dec 2, 2010 9:07 AM EST up reply actions   2 recs

And the difference to the media, right or wrong, is that Crosby is a winner and a leader that can overcome these problems.

He’s also Canadian – very important factor here. If Sid was a Yank, he wouldn’t receive the same treatment.

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by J.P. on Dec 2, 2010 9:15 AM EST up reply actions  

Good reminder. Can’t mistake Burnside’s Canadian accent for Stan Fischler’s.

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by STLSpidey on Dec 2, 2010 9:16 AM EST up reply actions  

Ovechkin isn’t good enough, hence the Caps’ D and G will fail them again.

Where’s the part about AO failing the team?

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by red army line on Dec 2, 2010 9:34 AM EST up reply actions  

You can’t knock his playoff performance… Him being the active leader in postseason points per game and all that.

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by Ninjak on Dec 2, 2010 9:39 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, but funny how no one criticizes his playoff performance—just that his team wasn’t good enough, hence he’s to blame.

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by red army line on Dec 2, 2010 9:49 AM EST up reply actions  

I criticize(d) his playoff performance, especially in the first ten minutes of Game 5.

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by J.P. on Dec 2, 2010 9:51 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I meant MSM. Japers’ has different rules ;)

There are some MSM guys who did, of course, but it’s fixated on the same [expletive] old thing, all the time.

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by red army line on Dec 2, 2010 9:55 AM EST up reply actions  

And at the same time, his defenders point to aggregate numbers that don’t fairly reflect his performance, necessarily.

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by J.P. on Dec 2, 2010 9:57 AM EST up reply actions  

Well, other than the NYR series, I think Ovechkin has been the Caps’ best player in every series they’ve played since he’s been on the team.

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by The Ghost of Bebop on Dec 2, 2010 10:00 AM EST up reply actions  

Agreed – I was referring specifically to the MTL series (should’ve clarified that).

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by J.P. on Dec 2, 2010 10:03 AM EST up reply actions  

Ah, that makes more sense. Your point is well taken, though, and I think it actually applies to most of the Caps’ other playoff series with Ovechkin.

In the Philly series, Ovechkin really didn’t heat up until the series was several games old. In the NYR series, Varlamov was the Caps’ best player. In the Pittsburgh series, there’s the oft-cited missed breakaway against MAF in the opening minutes of game 7. I think it’s fair to say that Ovechkin hasn’t been quite as good in the playoffs as his numbers indicate, but I think the same can be said of Crosby. People tend to forget that he didn’t play particularly well during the second half of the Pens’ recent Cup run.

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by The Ghost of Bebop on Dec 2, 2010 10:11 AM EST up reply actions  

never mind the MTL-PIT series. Sid barely bothered to show up.

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by RedBirdie on Dec 2, 2010 11:48 AM EST up reply actions  

Exactly. Everyone has games where they don’t score or aren’t a factor. This is why the fairest way to judge is aggregate numbers…the more games the better. Picking one or two games, or worse: portions thereof, and saying “he didn’t play well here!” is misleading imo.

by Ginga on Dec 2, 2010 12:03 PM EST up reply actions  

But like Ovechkin in 2008, Crosby has a problem in 2011. That team around him isn’t really all that good, certainly not as good as the roster in Philadelphia or in Washington. Truth be told, the inconsistency of Marc-Andre Fleury makes it a near certainty that it is his performance — not Crosby’s — that will determine just how far the Penguins go in the spring. If Fleury has a spring time that looks like November, the Penguins can go far. If he has one that looks like October, one and done looks more likely.

I think the Pens roster is better than you’re giving them credit for; that D corps is very, very solid and while they lack wingers, they have three centers who are extremely high quality when Staal comes back. They forecheck like demons and hem opponents in their own zone for long stretches of time. They’ve been one of the best shot-differential teams in the league minus their third best skater.

The point about MAF is true of basically all goalies for playoff teams. If the goalie plays to a .930 sv% for a few weeks in April and May, the team will go far, almost regardless of whether they’re skating well or not.

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by Knee high to a duck on Dec 2, 2010 9:16 AM EST up reply actions   2 recs

The solidity of that D is helped by Letang playing out of his ever loving mind. I don’t think theirs is any better than Philadelphia’s.

by Chris Burton on Dec 2, 2010 9:20 AM EST up reply actions  

Philly’s D is clearly better, but this is the second season in a row that Letang has put up dominating possession stats. He’s getting more prime ice now that Gonchar is out of the equation, so seeing his boxcars jump doesn’t really surprise me. PIT really hit on that 3rd round selection, I just hope Depres doesn’t turn out so well.

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by Knee high to a duck on Dec 2, 2010 9:23 AM EST up reply actions  

I’m not even convinced Pittsburgh’s defense is that much better than the Caps’. A little, yeah, but if Hannan pans out, then Washington’s problem probably isn’t going to be defense. If anything, WSH’s is deeper at the moment, not having to roll out Goligoski or Engelland.

by Chris Burton on Dec 2, 2010 9:26 AM EST up reply actions  

Hannan is a massive upgrade for Washington’s blueline, which is now a source of considerable strength when everyone is healthy. There are going to be two 2nd-pairing caliber players getting 3rd pairing assignments on any given night — that’s a huge deal. Goligoski is a pretty good offensive D-man, while he’s not great in his own end, he’s pretty dangerous when the Pens have the puck. Which is a lot.

The Pens don’t have anyone of Green’s caliber, but I’d say that whichever of Letang, Martin, or Michalek you choose as their 3rd best D is better than Poti, Schultz, Hannan, or Carlson at the moment. Alzner is a much better 6D than Engellend, though.

When they’re healthy, I actually think the bluelines are close to a push between WSH and PIT, while PHI is significantly better than both.

Washington did a lot to close the gap between the top two contenders in the East (PIT/PHI) and themselves. I’m feeling much better about a playoff series between the Caps and either of them today than I was when I woke up two days ago. That trade is huge.

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by Knee high to a duck on Dec 2, 2010 9:36 AM EST up reply actions   3 recs

I agree with you (as usual), but I still think (dead horse, I know) that in a series against Philly or Pittsburgh, the Caps are hosed. Backstrom/Johansson/Gordon/Hendricks will get destroyed against Crosby/Malkin/Staal/Talbot or Richards/Giroux/Briere/x.

I’m not even sure that Boston’s pivot depth isn’t better than the Caps’.

by Chris Burton on Dec 2, 2010 9:41 AM EST up reply actions  

I don’t follow your logic. Are you saying that any team that has better depth at C will beat the Caps?

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by The Ghost of Bebop on Dec 2, 2010 9:46 AM EST up reply actions  

That’s what I’m inferring.

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by Scott in Shaw on Dec 2, 2010 11:16 AM EST up reply actions  

GMGM is not done building the 2011 playoff team in DC.

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by Ninjak on Dec 2, 2010 9:46 AM EST up reply actions  

Whoa – did the League change to a pure C-vs-C format?

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by J.P. on Dec 2, 2010 9:46 AM EST up reply actions  

I know you’ve seen hot Ovechkin. And hot Semin. I ain’t ruling the Caps out of any series, though I do think there are several teams I’d favor.

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by red army line on Dec 2, 2010 9:50 AM EST up reply actions  

I know you’ve seen hot Ovechkin. And hot Semin

Lulz.

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Dec 2, 2010 10:11 AM EST up reply actions  

And hot Gordon. And hot Laich. And Backstrom.

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by red army line on Dec 2, 2010 10:12 AM EST up reply actions  

I know it’s immature, but Semin jokes still elicit a chuckle from me.

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by The Ghost of Bebop on Dec 2, 2010 10:13 AM EST up reply actions  

Embrace your inner 14-year-old! Those jokes never get old, and people new to the Caps will never stop smirking when you mention his name.

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by Ninjak on Dec 2, 2010 10:21 AM EST up reply actions  

Believe me, the frequency with which I laugh at fart jokes suggests that I AM my inner 14-year-old.

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by The Ghost of Bebop on Dec 2, 2010 10:42 AM EST up reply actions  

semin actually means seed in russian lol

by j762 on Dec 2, 2010 12:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, but Philly also has hot Carle.

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by Killer_Carlson on Dec 2, 2010 2:02 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

So do we, so do we.

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by D'ohboy on Dec 2, 2010 3:25 PM EST up reply actions   3 recs

FLAGGED! I feel dirty just looking at that.

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by RedBirdie on Dec 2, 2010 3:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Thankfully the trade deadline hasn’t come and gone…

by Langway on Dec 2, 2010 1:47 PM EST up reply actions  

And neither of those teams has even one wing comparable to Semin or Ovechkin, forget about two.

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by Knee high to a duck on Dec 2, 2010 5:07 PM EST up reply actions  

That’s clear, but you have to admit the theory that teams deep down the middle have much better chances at the Cup. Just look at the winners post-lockout.

by Chris Burton on Dec 2, 2010 5:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Despres is legit. I hate to say it but I don’t see him busting.

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by Rob Parker on Dec 2, 2010 3:06 PM EST up reply actions  

He’s pretty good. He almost made the Pens this year but they wanted him to cook a bit more in junior. You’ll see a lot of him on Team Canada in late December.

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by EmilyB on Dec 2, 2010 3:23 PM EST up reply actions  

The point about MAF is true of basically all goalies for playoff teams. If the goalie plays to a .930 sv% for a few weeks in April and May, the team will go far, almost regardless of whether they’re skating well or not.

True, but that’s not really the point. The point is Fleury’s inconsistency. If a goalie is hitting that .930 mark in the late spring, chances are he has had some consistency before that in his save percentage (he’s not going to have many months in which it was .863, as was Fleury’s in October — Michael Leighton didn’t have a month below .906 after joining the Flyers last season, and that is the comparison, not his play with the woebegone Hurricanes). Did Fleury merely get off to a slow start, or is he on the high side of a roller coaster trend?

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by ThePeerless on Dec 2, 2010 9:33 AM EST up reply actions  

You’re not going to find a Fleury defender in this poster, but Michael Leighton played significantly over his head until the Cup Finals, where he reverted to form at the worst possible time. Goalies go up, goalies go down, it’s hard to predict which ones are going to give you the play you need in the springtime.

I’ll put it another way — I’d lay money on MAF to give the Pens acceptable goaltending before I’d lay money on Leighton at the same odds. Like, way before.

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by Knee high to a duck on Dec 2, 2010 5:05 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree… the Pens roster, while not as good as the Cup winners in 2009 is still pretty damn formidable. Crosby is outstanding, Malkin when he is on is terrific, Letang is emerging as a pretty good offensive D-man. Dupuis is quick and deceptively effective, Kunitz has taken his game a step forward as well. This is not a bad team and they will likely get past round 1 of the playoffs. Then it gets tough as they’ll have to likely play a better team in the second round (Caps, Flyers, Bruins) and that’s where their run may end in 2011.

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by MikeL-Pivonka on Dec 2, 2010 11:57 AM EST up reply actions  

When was the last time Malkin was “on”?

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by Rob Parker on Dec 2, 2010 3:09 PM EST up reply actions  

2009 Cup finals?

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by RedBirdie on Dec 2, 2010 3:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Of course, even when he’s “off”, he kicks the crap out of any of our centers outside of Backstrom.

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by Ninjak on Dec 2, 2010 3:14 PM EST up reply actions  

haven’t been paying much attention to the Pens. Is he playing center? I thought the plan was to shift to wing, but now Staal keeps coming up with new and inventive ways to remain on LTIR….

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by RedBirdie on Dec 2, 2010 3:17 PM EST up reply actions  

He’s back playing center. They had Letestu centering him for a while, but moved him to the 3rd line.

This all may change once Staal comes back.

by RCheli on Dec 2, 2010 3:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Which is why you should trade him to me.

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by Knee high to a duck on Dec 2, 2010 4:54 PM EST up reply actions  

This is a very good team. They’re a legitimate Cup threat this season and probably the next few; the core of Crosby/Malkin/Staal/Letang/Martin/Michalek/Fleury is going to contend. Shero’s done an excellent job at adding role-players that work well in the PIT system (damn his eyes). Would I be shocked if they didn’t win one in that window? Not a bit, there’s a handful of other really good teams out there (Caps, Hawks, Canucks, Bruins, Sharks, Wings, Flyers, Blues, Kings all have real windows over that time period, to varying degrees) and only one Cup to go around in a season.

It’s gonna be tough every year; that’s why the playoffs are so enthralling, I think.

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by Knee high to a duck on Dec 2, 2010 5:03 PM EST up reply actions  

that D corps is very, very solid

Michalek isn’t turning out to be as good as people thought. The remainder is good, but not outstanding.

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I think I’m becoming wary of “professional shot-blockers”

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Dec 2, 2010 3:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Michalek may not be as good as advertised (yet), but he’s still a lot better than Gonchar. Murray is an ass.

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by Rob Parker on Dec 2, 2010 4:37 PM EST up reply actions  

i actually expected the caps’ forbes ranking to take a much more dramatic jump with leonsis’ acquisition of the arena rights. am i missing something?

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I expected the same, but I guess the losses last year offset it some? I’m sure Ted will comment on what a joke those valuations are.

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by J.P. on Dec 2, 2010 8:42 AM EST up reply actions  

I’m guessing that it’s because the Capitals don’t own the Verizon Center… Monumental owns both the Capitals and the Verizon Center. But who the hell knows what Forbes’ methodology really is.

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by Ninjak on Dec 2, 2010 8:52 AM EST up reply actions  

Actually, when I looked at the Forbes ratings, I was a bit surprised. I, too, thought the Caps would be much higher on the list, especially with the acquisition of the arena rights. That being said, Leonsis is putting alot of money down on sed acquisition the newer developments the arena is seeing.

The business of hockey is certainly not a short term thing, seeing a 1-year turn around on a franchise is pretty unlikely. That being said, I don’t exactly trust all of the metrics they use to rate the net worth and such a of a franchise; and, in a few years, that number will most definitely increase

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by kingzman264 on Dec 2, 2010 8:43 AM EST up reply actions  

You would think the Caps would get increased revenue from board ads, club seats and concessions, which they didn’t get much of under the previous lease. However, just because Ted owns the whole ball of wax, doesn’t necessarily mean the Caps have a new lease or additional revenue streams.

Its of interest because team revenues have an impact on the salary cap. So conceivably the more revenue the Caps generate the greater potential for the salary cap to increase. Not to mention the impact on revenue sharing (hi Damian). Ted may be incented to keep the Caps revenue down.

Also, if the Caps are equal partners in sharing the revenues from the building, no doubt they probably share in the debt service (vs. just being a rent paying tenant). We’ll never know the true economics of the deal.

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by dcsportsfan1 on Dec 2, 2010 8:49 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, I was going to say this, Ted owning the whole thing may not translate into better revenue for the Caps themselves just yet and I’m not about to wade into the HRR part of the CBA.

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by apk3000 on Dec 2, 2010 8:58 AM EST up reply actions  

That’s probably right. The Forbes ranking probably considers the Caps alone. Ted needs to show some synergy between the three teams and the arena to drive the value up of the Caps alone.

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by STLSpidey on Dec 2, 2010 9:02 AM EST up reply actions  

I can buy George McPhee as the seventh-best general manager “for the buck.” What I can’t accept is slotting him two spots behind Don Waddell (who is no longer Atlanta’s GM anyhoo). [Forbes]

Embarrassing. Waddell was easily the worst GM in the league after JFJ was kicked to the curb. Forget the “for the buck” criteria, because his value’s actually negative.

by David Getz on Dec 2, 2010 8:39 AM EST reply actions  

I don’t know, I rather like that article…

But I agree. Waddell was awful.

by Chris Burton on Dec 2, 2010 9:00 AM EST up reply actions  

Our View Last Night of the Laich Goal

This is just as the puck is bouncing off Halak’s stick right to Laich.

Best I could get off the TV after we got home night. You can make out my son and me to the left side of the box in our red jerseys. Harder to see are my wife and daughter behind the two guys in white caps.

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by STLSpidey on Dec 2, 2010 8:56 AM EST reply actions   3 recs

Sweet seats, Spidey. :)

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by WordsOnIce on Dec 2, 2010 8:59 AM EST up reply actions  

Thanks. Looks like my son and I are actually on “the other left” of the box or the right-side, as most people call it.

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by STLSpidey on Dec 2, 2010 9:01 AM EST up reply actions  

Nice! Caps are only in town once every couple of years, worth getting the good seats.

You had me at no problem.

by Ninjak on Dec 2, 2010 9:15 AM EST up reply actions  

Nice, Spidey.

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by J.P. on Dec 2, 2010 9:15 AM EST up reply actions  

That’s almost exactly where I sat last at last year’s game in STL. I hope your wife wasn’t the woman in the same section last year wearing an Ovechkin jersey who got into a fight with a Blues fan!

by Ginga on Dec 2, 2010 12:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Missed that. Must’ve been behind us.

My wife and daughter borrowed Ovechkin t-shirts from my son and me, but they kept coats on most of the time to keep warm.

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by STLSpidey on Dec 2, 2010 12:12 PM EST up reply actions  

It was after the game ended. I was wearing my #8 sweater, which got lots of attention at Lumiere after the game, much to the delight of my wife’s family (Blues fans).

by Ginga on Dec 2, 2010 12:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Prospects/Mitchell

I followed the link to the Mitchell blog entry – “Once Mitchell ages out of the CHL this coming spring,…”

Note: Mitchell does not age out of the CHL this coming spring. He’s a 1991 and he will be eligible to play in the CHL next season as an overager.

More relevant is the question as to whether he’s signed by the Capitals this summer before rights expire. At this time, I’d say it’s questionable that he is signed by the Capitals; same for Dunn especially with Grubauer and Anderson already under contract. Just guesses on my part based on following the Caps and prospects, other than a couple of SCSU games on tv, I haven’t seen either play since summer camp.

Unsigned Caps’ prospects with Caps’ rights expiring this summer are:

- Mitchell, Garrett, RW, 19yo (Sep 91), WHL; rights until June 1, 2011; 09 draft
- Flemming, Brett, D, 19yo (Feb 91), OHL; rights until June 1, 2011; 09 draft

- DeSimone, Phil, C, 23yo (Mar 87), NCAA, rights until August 15, 2011; 07 draft
- Dunn, Dan, G, 22yo (Jun 88), NCAA, rights until August 15, 2011; 07 draft

Three CHL Prospects, Eakin, Grubauer, and Anderson, are already signed to their ELCs.

by sk84fun_dc on Dec 2, 2010 9:18 AM EST reply actions   3 recs

ha, good timing ….and the Caps sign Brett Flemming to an ELC

Leads the OHL in +/-

Most memorable aspect of his game from last 2 summers is his skating as a dman.

by sk84fun_dc on Dec 2, 2010 3:07 PM EST up reply actions  

He is tied for first in the OHL in +/- at +25 after 25 games; technically first because he has played 1 fewer game than the other player at +25

Mississauga, Memorial Cup host this year, currently has an 8 game winning streak and a record of 22W 2L and 1 SOL after 25 games.

by sk84fun_dc on Dec 2, 2010 3:13 PM EST up reply actions  

A little me-tooing I s’pose, but from the list you posted, I thought (and was going to post but didn’t) Brett was the most likely to be signed, and voila! he was.

And the Majors are silly good this season, with Galiev and the St. John Sea Dogs looking equally solid in the Q.

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by EmilyB on Dec 2, 2010 3:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Flemming’s coach, Dave Cameron, will be coaching up Eakin and Team Canada for World Juniors.

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by EmilyB on Dec 2, 2010 3:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh I agree I was going to post more this morning, but no one engaged when I posted the list so I dropped it; guess I shouldn’t have.

Anyway, I duplicated some of my comments in the other thread.

Congrats to Flemming!

by sk84fun_dc on Dec 2, 2010 4:06 PM EST up reply actions  

I Rec Red Line Station!

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by Kareem E. on Dec 2, 2010 10:03 AM EST up reply actions  

Link Line Station.

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by EmilyB on Dec 2, 2010 10:14 AM EST up reply actions  

Agree. RLS is now high on my priority list.

The H2H chances are data I don’t find anywhere else, and very interesting to ponder.

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by fat_daddyo on Dec 2, 2010 10:40 AM EST up reply actions  

I know Olivier does them for MTL chances, but I haven’t gotten around to writing code to do that (maybe SQL? Python? I dunno).

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by red army line on Dec 2, 2010 12:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Thanks everyone for the kind words and encouragement!

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by red army line on Dec 2, 2010 10:43 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeppers.

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by J.P. on Dec 2, 2010 11:04 AM EST up reply actions  

The ESPN Dallas article was great. Sometimes I think that we lose sight of just how good this team is and how it’s viewed by the other teams around the league. The quote that really brought a smile to my face was Marc Crawford’s take on the Caps.

"They are an elite team in the league. They can beat you with skill, but they are forging an identity of being a more well-rounded, more complete team that will play any style."

by b.orr4 on Dec 2, 2010 9:30 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

<3

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by kingzman264 on Dec 2, 2010 4:14 PM EST up reply actions  

David Steckel: A player on the Washington Capitals. Everyone is so fixated on OV and Semin and Green and Backstrom that they are missing the gems. Steckel is making a mint at $1.1. He might be in for a raise for his faceoff percentage of almost 65 per cent. You really don’t know how important that is unless you’ve actually watched this team play defence.

(Emphasis added)

Have you, Mr. Stock?

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by red army line on Dec 2, 2010 9:48 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

Maybe he read it wrong and thinks his name is “David Stockel”

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Dec 2, 2010 10:13 AM EST up reply actions  

When I think PJ Stock, I think Stephen Peat. Epic. A 9.7 on hockeyfights.com, FWIW.

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by dcsportsfan1 on Dec 2, 2010 10:18 AM EST up reply actions  

Video

Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...

by dcsportsfan1 on Dec 2, 2010 10:22 AM EST up reply actions  

Me too. Which is probably why I linked to it in the bullet.

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by J.P. on Dec 2, 2010 11:04 AM EST up reply actions   2 recs

Huh, so you did. My bad. Got any game recaps?

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by dcsportsfan1 on Dec 2, 2010 11:16 AM EST up reply actions  

Steckel’s ES tends to be solid, but it’s amusing as hell he lauds Steckel right before Maholtra. Now that guy is what people think Steckel is.

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by sydtron on Dec 2, 2010 10:50 AM EST up reply actions  

“Hmmm, need some content…”

“Lessee, lessee…’Crosby’s Awesome’?…nah, everyone does that one…lists, lists are good….could go with ‘Best Right Wingers Ever’…bleh, too much work…”

“I know, best underrated guys! Hell, I was one myself, so people will totally buy it!”

“All right, who are the underrated guys? Ummm…crap, dunno.”

“Well, what do the underrated guys do? You know, heart and soul guys, character guys, leadership guys. They block shots, play defense, win faceoffs…”

“Hey, look, at nhl.com I can see who wins faceoffs and blocks shots. Those guys all play great defense.”

“Write down the salaries…get mom to sort them for me…man, what a great job, the posts just write themselves.”

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by fat_daddyo on Dec 2, 2010 10:57 AM EST up reply actions  

StLGT

Anybody checked out the Blues’ SB Nation blog, St. Louis Game Time and seen title for this mornings post:

Thursday Links: One goal? On nearly 40 shots? Seriously? edition

After last spring it is somewhat satisfying to be on the other end of one of those headlines. That said, it will feel even better if we are on the other end of those this spring.

by BradleyFightingVehicle on Dec 2, 2010 10:13 AM EST reply actions  

Boyes still can’t believe he couldn’t score on Varly: “I hit him in the head.”

Link

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by EmilyB on Dec 2, 2010 10:18 AM EST up reply actions  

Varly with the header save… Laughlin called him on it, mentioning how Hasek and Roman Cecmanek used to do that (and I think Lundqvist does it some too…)

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by MikeL-Pivonka on Dec 2, 2010 12:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Locker was in rare form last night, and I thought Joe B was kind of off.

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by Ninjak on Dec 2, 2010 12:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Joe B. won me over with the nudity joke.

“[guy for St. Louis] did not dress last night…………in equipment”

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Dec 2, 2010 12:05 PM EST up reply actions  

He also pulled out a “Happy Hump Day”, and Locker was all about guys “squirting” pucks at the net.

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by SeattleCapsFan on Dec 2, 2010 12:10 PM EST up reply actions  

See, I thought it wasn’t a joke. I think he said that, and then realized it sounded weird and added qualification. Amusing, but less polished than I expect from Joe.

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by Ninjak on Dec 2, 2010 1:53 PM EST up reply actions  

i’ve done that several times in floor hockey. it’s pretty epic

by j762 on Dec 2, 2010 12:14 PM EST up reply actions  

The improvements in goalie gear due to technology are really amazing.

20 years ago that save lands you in the hospital.

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by fat_daddyo on Dec 2, 2010 12:17 PM EST up reply actions  

You’re gonna have to go back a lot further than 1990 before you get to goalie masks that can’t take a shot without serious injury.

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by Killer_Carlson on Dec 2, 2010 2:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Ooof. 20 years ago was 1990??

Holy fuck, I am old.

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by fat_daddyo on Dec 2, 2010 2:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Even now you see goalies get concussed from pucks to the head. I don’t think it’s generally a smart strategy, especially given that most pucks that are head height are going over the net.

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by Rob Parker on Dec 2, 2010 5:23 PM EST up reply actions  

not with Varly =]

I can’t even remember the last time a goalie had a concussion from a puck hitting the mask. Pavlec is the only goalie I can think of having a concussion in the past year and he got it from passing out then falling on the ice.

The pro masks are bullet proof. Only place I’d be worried about taking a shot in those would be the back of the head or the ears.

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by zephyr on Dec 2, 2010 5:37 PM EST up reply actions  

A goalie got concussed and had to miss a start because he took a shot off the side of the mask in warm ups. It’s safer if you get it square, for sure, but I wouldn’t want to put my head in front of an NHL shot regardless.

And that’s not Varly’s normal stance.

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by Rob Parker on Dec 2, 2010 5:41 PM EST up reply actions  

This is his normal stance

The guy is Peter Schumpmaker. Lord knows what a schump is, but you can bet your bippy his ancestors made them. What he's doing is far worse than crafting fine schumps.

by Steckel Me Elmo on Dec 2, 2010 7:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Nicky’s got a bitter side!

The Caps touched Blues goalie Jaroslav Halak for three goals on 25 shots, gaining some revenge against Halak, who helped knock them out of the Eastern Conference playoffs last season when he was with Montreal.

“It’s always good,” Backstrom said. “I mean, he destroyed our plans.”

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by RedBirdie on Dec 2, 2010 12:15 PM EST up reply actions  

"I mean, he destroyed our plans for world domination."

Evil Nicky.

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by SeattleCapsFan on Dec 2, 2010 12:22 PM EST up reply actions  

He damn well better have a bitter side. The whole team should. I am still bitter about it, and all I did was sit on my butt and watch last postseason (and shell out some serious cash for tickets). A revenge win in the regular season is cold comfort come postseason, but for now, I’ll take it.

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by Laich It Or Lump It on Dec 2, 2010 12:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Stay angry…

You had me at no problem.

by Ninjak on Dec 2, 2010 1:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Game Time is, uh, an interesting place.

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by RedBirdie on Dec 2, 2010 11:53 AM EST up reply actions  

They’re an acquired taste. Just post “Fuck Detroit and Chicago” and they’ll love you

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by Bman21212 on Dec 2, 2010 12:42 PM EST up reply actions  

They’re as fond of Patrick Kane as Caps fans are of Sid Crosby.

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by CapsFan75 on Dec 2, 2010 6:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Watching the PP last night had me thinking, “why couldn’t you do that last April?” Just completely different in terms of getting organized, moving the puck, finding a seam and getting the D out of position.

I noted this morning, however, that the Flyers are currently in a 2-for-38 stretch on the PP, and going by what they have to say at BSH, have looked real bad doing it. Sounds familiar, eh?

All to say that a cold streak can find you at any time, and the only cure is to keep trying (and hope it doesn’t arrive at a critical time).

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by fat_daddyo on Dec 2, 2010 10:17 AM EST reply actions  

All to say that a cold streak can find you at any time, and the only cure is to keep trying (and hope it doesn’t arrive at a critical time) the guys well hydrated on fluids high in vitamin C.

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by Elliotte on Dec 2, 2010 10:21 AM EST up reply actions  

It’s important to avoid streaks at critical times.

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Dec 2, 2010 10:24 AM EST up reply actions  

and that’s why your mother said to always wear clean underwear

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by Elliotte on Dec 2, 2010 10:37 AM EST up reply actions  

For avoiding streaks....

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by MikeL-Pivonka on Dec 2, 2010 12:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Ovechkin out at the point with a pass first, shoot second mindset makes all the difference in the world. People cheat so hard toward Ovechkin on defense that him doing anything other than attracting a crowd is going to end up with a low percentage scoring chance at best. Until people get tired of being burned by Backstrom and Semin they should utilize Ovechkin as bizarro paper tiger as they are now.

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by sydtron on Dec 2, 2010 10:48 AM EST up reply actions  

it’s been amusing to watch this season. “Hey, let’s set 2-3 guys on Ovechkin! That’ll keep the Caps from scoring!” Ovie’s ability to connect passes to open teammates when he has 400+ pounds of hockey play draped on him is quite impressive.

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by RedBirdie on Dec 2, 2010 11:55 AM EST up reply actions  

also impressive was the no call when Ovie got his stick slashed out of his hands last night

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by Elliotte on Dec 2, 2010 12:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Ovie was some sort of pissed about that.

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by RedBirdie on Dec 2, 2010 12:50 PM EST up reply actions  

I just don’t know how no one saw that, especially since Ovie had the puck at the time

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by Elliotte on Dec 2, 2010 12:56 PM EST up reply actions  

I didn’t see a replay, but I thought it was possible that the Blues player (McClement? Crombeen?) tied him up ans was wrestling for the puck and just ended up levering the stick out of AO’s hands, rather than slashing it?

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by fat_daddyo on Dec 2, 2010 1:07 PM EST up reply actions  

No, it was definitely a two-handed chop at the stick.

by Wheeler on Dec 2, 2010 3:10 PM EST up reply actions  

The St. Louis guy brought the stick down onto Ovie’s stick from above. Blatant slash.

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by timmyv38 on Dec 2, 2010 3:21 PM EST up reply actions  

And then a few minutes later Green getting a penalty for the same thing just because the stick happened to break.

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by Killer_Carlson on Dec 2, 2010 2:15 PM EST up reply actions  

If there’s one thing that the NHL officiating has done relatively consistantly, it’s punish the result more than intent, so this doesn’t surprise me.

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by SmallZ827 on Dec 2, 2010 2:20 PM EST up reply actions  

The weird thing is that slashing a stick out of someone’s hand is a result that is just as likely to draw a penalty as a broken stick. Caps got hosed with that pretty badly in one game in the last series against the Pens.

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by Killer_Carlson on Dec 2, 2010 2:30 PM EST up reply actions  

You’re right, and the look on Ovechkin’s face in response to the no-call pretty much summed up how I felt about it at the time.

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by SmallZ827 on Dec 2, 2010 2:32 PM EST up reply actions  

A couple times. I swear Kunitz was holding his stick with no strength just to draw calls. I don’t personally like it when refs call a PIM just because a stick is knocked out of a guy’s hand, but given that it’s almost a reflexive call now I don’t understand how STL didn’t get called.

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by Rob Parker on Dec 2, 2010 5:31 PM EST up reply actions  

So true. When watching El Clasico on Monday I thought of OV this season when I kept seeing how Leo Messi was drawing waves of RM players, leaving huge gaps elsewhere for his teammates to exploit.

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by cuqui on Dec 2, 2010 12:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Caps last visit to Dallas - Washington at Dallas October 25, 2008

 Here’s hoping tonight’s game isn’t like the whacky back and forth game from a little over 2 years ago; although the GWG in OT by Semin was nice

- Tyler Sloan returns to the scene of his first NHL goal, perhaps as a scratch

- Also happened to be the game when Sean Avery scored his first goal as a Dallas Star, 1 of 3 as a Star

- Crazy thinking back to that game and the goal scorers and players from that night, so I pulled the boxscore

- 1/2 the players no longer with the Capitals – the goalies were Theodore and Johnson, Fedorov and Fleischmann with 2 goals apiece, Nylander with a multipoint game, etc.
4D remaining: Erskine, Green, Schultz, Sloan
6F remaining: Backstrom, Bradley, BGordon, Laich, Ovechkin, Semin

by sk84fun_dc on Dec 2, 2010 10:48 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

That was a game the Caps controlled, could have dominated, yet allowed to become a back-and-forth affair that went to overtime. It was against a lesser Dallas team that appears improved based on the standings.

I always go to the Caps games in Dallas, but I just got back from Thanksgiving up there and have missed work with the sickness this week. So after looking fwd to this game since the schedule came out, I will be passing on it. Sadness.

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by Icebat on Dec 2, 2010 11:18 AM EST up reply actions  

:-(

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by EmilyB on Dec 2, 2010 11:22 AM EST up reply actions  

Yes, I know, just walking down memory lane of a crazy game with some milestones included. I had hoped to make it to this game, too, but the weeknight and travel, not happening.

by sk84fun_dc on Dec 2, 2010 12:03 PM EST up reply actions  

By the way, anyone notice who was the extra man on for the “Too Many Men” penalty that resulted in the powerplay that got the Caps their first goal? Andy McDonald. Just a stupid, stupid, stupid penalty. One has to wonder about the quality of his college education. Really.

by Wheeler on Dec 2, 2010 10:48 AM EST reply actions  

Rec’d like a bag of unmarked bills.

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by Bald Pollack on Dec 2, 2010 10:55 AM EST up reply actions  

Oooph, don’t remind me.

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by SeattleCapsFan on Dec 2, 2010 12:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Does Qatar have enough footy players to field a WC team? If so, I hope they get run out of the tournament on a rail. Every score should be 20-0.

/bitter

by Chris Burton on Dec 2, 2010 12:48 PM EST up reply actions  

As someone who spent spring and summer months there suffering 115 degree temps WITH oppressive humidity…..got a lot of indoor stadiums to build.

by Cluster on Dec 2, 2010 12:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Dont think FIFA allows indoor stadiums for WC. Heard Qatar was planning on spending $4B to air condition OUTDOOR stadiums..for real.

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by dcsportsfan1 on Dec 2, 2010 1:09 PM EST up reply actions  

I guess they do have a ready supply of fossil fuels and oil money to burn…

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by SeattleCapsFan on Dec 2, 2010 1:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Qatar’s money comes from their natural gas reserves. They’ve got 15% of the global supply.

by Cluster on Dec 2, 2010 2:33 PM EST up reply actions  

The other 85% resides in the colon of Hurley from Lost

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Dec 2, 2010 2:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Natural gas…oil…same thing :)

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by SeattleCapsFan on Dec 2, 2010 2:39 PM EST up reply actions  

I think it’s okay as long as there’s grass inside. Didn’t the Silverdome host games in 1994?

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by apk3000 on Dec 2, 2010 1:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Yep, games played in the Silverdome. Also Sapporo Dome in Japan in ’02, which had that cool retractable field. Can switch between baseball and soccer.

by Cluster on Dec 2, 2010 2:38 PM EST up reply actions  

To bring this back on topic, a Deadspin commenter had it right:

Seeing all these repetitive stories today about a soccer tournament somewhere in the Middle East twelve years from now reminds me of something – Gary Bettman is just terrible at his job.

by Wheeler on Dec 2, 2010 5:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Peter Mueller’s prognosis: Not good, at least not this season.

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by EmilyB on Dec 2, 2010 11:22 AM EST reply actions  

Another member of my fantasy team bites the dust…

You had me at no problem.

by Ninjak on Dec 2, 2010 11:28 AM EST up reply actions  

On a happier note, Francois Bouchard’s big brother Pierre-Marc Bouchard played for the Wild last night for the first time in nearly a year and a half. Concussions are dreadful. Let’s hope our team can avoid them.

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by EmilyB on Dec 2, 2010 11:37 AM EST up reply actions  

Trolling around a bit on the Web between meetings. Went over to the SI.com NHL page and these are quotes that I see.

1. Cover Story

Whiner. Diver. Dirty. Sidney Crosby’s critics find a lot to dislike about the NHL’s Chosen One. But Stu Hackel says haters are missing Crosby’s mastery at doing whatever it takes to win.

Clicked over to the article where Hackel writes in his concluding paragraph:

Our allegiances to one team or another cause us to react emotionally about certain guys and how they play the game. In one sense, that’s as it should be. But to lose sight of the abundant skills that Crosby brings to the rink and to fixate on his indiscretions will shortchange your ability to appreciate a masterful player.

It would be nice to see that written about Ovechkin, wouldn’t it?

2. The rankings tag line

Caps rule, but Penguins are looking like a champion

With my biased hat on, the second quote is more frustrating. Cazenueve elevates the Caps to #1, but they juxtaposition of that Penguins descriptions intimates that the Caps don’t look like a champion.

Where is the love, I ask you? Where is the love? :-)

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by STLSpidey on Dec 2, 2010 11:36 AM EST reply actions  

If it’s his opinion thatthe Pens are better than the Caps, then he should rank them that way and leave it at that. Geez.

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by EmilyB on Dec 2, 2010 11:39 AM EST up reply actions  

We all knew we were doomed to a year of this after Montreal. It really, really, REALLY doesn’t matter how well the Caps play this season(as far as media fluff goes). We could win 75 games, and columnists would say “Gee the Caps look good, BUT…”

You had me at no problem.

by Ninjak on Dec 2, 2010 11:40 AM EST up reply actions  

“…they just lost in game 7 in the first round of the playoffs to Atlanta”

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by sydtron on Dec 2, 2010 11:42 AM EST up reply actions  

In what sport? I don’t see the Thrashers making the playoffs…

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by MikeL-Pivonka on Dec 2, 2010 12:04 PM EST up reply actions  

The Thrashers are really good.

If the season ended today, they’d be the sixth seed.

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Dec 2, 2010 12:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Right now, the teams on the outside looking in are Carolina, Ottawa, Buffalo, Florida, Toronto, New Jersey and the Islanders. Do you see ANY of those teams making a real serious run?

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Dec 2, 2010 12:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Maybe, no, no, no, no, maybe and no.

The Canes don’t have a horrible roster, and Ward could get hot while NYR and ATL get cold.

The Devils can’t be as bad as they’ve played thus far, and they’re only 10 points out…my gut tells me they’ve got the potential to get hot.

The rest is dreck.

Specifically on ATL, we’ll see what happens when a couple guys cool off. They’ve made a nice run lately, and I picked them as a dark horse playoff team (this year and last) but I can also see them finishing in that 9 or 10 slot.

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by fat_daddyo on Dec 2, 2010 12:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Carolina’s 5 points out of the 8th spot behind Boston.

Every team in the East that is out of the playoff picture has a negative goal differential (with the exception of Tampa, which is sitting in 5th at -4).

I think the East is what we thought it was.

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Dec 2, 2010 12:16 PM EST up reply actions  

I would dearly love to see 3 teams from the SE make it, so I hope you’re right.

I do think that at least one team currently in the top 8 will finish out of the playoffs, and one team currently on the outside will make it.

My best guess for the team that chokes it is the Rags. Not believing in them at all, given Gabo’s injury history and the plumbers that fill out the rest of the roster.

As for the team that climbs into it, I think it might be the NJD sneaking in.

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by fat_daddyo on Dec 2, 2010 12:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Washington and Tampa Bay are locks, no? I don’t think Carolina has it in them (they are very thin everywhere) and Atlanta has a very good chance, mostly due to New Jersey falling off a cliff.

by RCheli on Dec 2, 2010 12:24 PM EST up reply actions  

I don’t think Tampa is a lock. Poo poo defensively and in G.

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Dec 2, 2010 12:25 PM EST up reply actions  

They’re a team that’s going to win a lot of regular season games 6-5, 5-4, and then fall apart in the playoffs.

by RCheli on Dec 2, 2010 12:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Sounds familiar ;)

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Dec 2, 2010 12:27 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Damnit!

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by SeattleCapsFan on Dec 2, 2010 12:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Sounds familiar

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by SeattleCapsFan on Dec 2, 2010 12:27 PM EST up reply actions  

I think Tampa has played over their heads a bit – due mostly to everything Stamkos so much as glances at promptly jumping in the net – but I think the only way they don’t make it is horrible injury problems.

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by fat_daddyo on Dec 2, 2010 12:31 PM EST up reply actions  

I think Tampa has a good opportunity to pick up some quality defensive players at the deadline. There are a lot of UFA defensemen in the west on teams that could fall out of contention by February.

by Wheeler on Dec 2, 2010 3:13 PM EST up reply actions  

I’ll take Atlanta over Tampa Bay. TB just as “epic implosion” written all over them because of their crap D and goalies. Atlanta is scary good. They’ve been the bridesmaids that last couple of seasons just missing out.

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by RedBirdie on Dec 2, 2010 12:29 PM EST up reply actions  

See, I think it’s easy to get excited about Atlanta, as they’ve been hot (6 game win streak and all). Buff is hot, a couple other guys are hot, they’re getting some breaks and some good netminding…but they’ll cool off.

I definitely see them as a 7-10 finish. Their personnel on D isn’t good enough, their depth at F isn’t good enough.

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by fat_daddyo on Dec 2, 2010 12:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Enstrom’s great. I like Oduya and Bogosian. Hainsey and Sopel are decent. It could be better, but it’s not completely terrible.

They also have the lowest payroll in the entire league /head desk.

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Dec 2, 2010 12:38 PM EST up reply actions  

lower than the Avs and Islanders?! holy shit.

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by RedBirdie on Dec 2, 2010 12:43 PM EST up reply actions  

000

Yup. According to Capgeek

Tampa Bay Lightning "
 
$48,404,586 $0 $10,995,414 —

St. Louis Blues "
 
$45,933,794 $0 $13,466,206 —

Edmonton Oilers "
 
$44,585,027 $0 $14,460,473 —

New York Islanders "
 
$43,042,839 $0 $16,357,161 —

Colorado Avalanche "
 
$42,907,671 $0 $16,492,329 —

Atlanta Thrashers "
 
$41,105,672 $0 $18,294,328 —

That’s the bottom six

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Dec 2, 2010 12:44 PM EST up reply actions  

And that includes Brashear’s 1.4 million buyout. Their highest paid player is Hainsey, who’s cap it is 4.5, followed by Antropov at 4.

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Dec 2, 2010 12:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Is that Avs pre- or post-Flash?

by DrinkingPartner on Dec 2, 2010 12:50 PM EST up reply actions  

that’s with Flash

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by Elliotte on Dec 2, 2010 12:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Enstrom is a defender that can easily get pushed around, though. He’s a tiny, tiny guy. I like him, but he’s a more talented Greg Hawgood.

by RCheli on Dec 2, 2010 12:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Enstrom has been in the league for years now and hasn’t gotten pushed around.

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by Rob Parker on Dec 2, 2010 5:45 PM EST up reply actions  

There are about 60 games left and you have guys like Ryan Miller that could just get hot and carry a team. CAR has gone on hot runs. OTT even got hot for a while last year. It’s too soon to say anything about the playoffs.

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by Rob Parker on Dec 2, 2010 5:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Florida has been playing some excellent hockey. Looking at Derek Zona’s scoring chances on Litter Box Cats, at 5-on-5 they’re really good (and rank higher than the Caps in JLikens’ adjusted Corsi). If Deboer makes their atrocious power play better soon, they’ll make the playoffs.

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by red army line on Dec 2, 2010 12:20 PM EST up reply actions  

im excited to see them match up w the Caps.

i find it weird that our season series with ATL will be almost done by the time we play the Cats once.

by j762 on Dec 2, 2010 12:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Looking at Derek Zona’s scoring chances on Litter Box Cats, at 5-on-5 they’re really good (and rank higher than the Caps in JLikens’ adjusted Corsi).

I don’t mean to jump on you, but this is precisely the sort of thing that causes people to totally disregard Corsi and scoring-chance analysis. I haven’t watched much of Florida this year, but I can tell from the guys on that team and what I saw of them last year that they’re just not very good.

Corsi/scoring chances is all well and good, but eventually you’ve got to have the skill to put the puck in the net, and Florida has always, always lacked that skill.

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Florida is 5th in the league in team GFON/60 at 5-on-5, per BtN.

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by red army line on Dec 2, 2010 8:45 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

Evander Kane is hurt and out tonight against the Pens. That won’t help the ATL much.

I’m actually more interested in that game than Caps/Stars tonight.

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by EmilyB on Dec 2, 2010 12:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Same here. If I still had my Center Ice I’d keep that as my primary and flip to the Caps.

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Dec 2, 2010 12:31 PM EST up reply actions  

So…so…beautiful (sniff)

by SethB on Dec 2, 2010 12:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Like a rainbow at the end of a rainstorm.

by DrinkingPartner on Dec 2, 2010 12:59 PM EST up reply actions  

i love that he’s smiling as he connects. i don’t love that he’s injured.

by Natty Bumppo on Dec 2, 2010 1:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Buffalo, Carolina and New Jersey are likely going to play better than they are playing now. And it assumes that the Thrashers will keep playing at their present level… I don’t see it. I could be proven wrong, but the Thrashers’ track record doesn’t give me confidence in their ability to keep their present pace…

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by MikeL-Pivonka on Dec 2, 2010 1:33 PM EST up reply actions  

I don’t see Buffalo playing better. That defensive core is horrendous, and they will get riddled with injuries like they always do. They’re one Ryan Miller knee-sprain from being a lottery team.

by Wheeler on Dec 2, 2010 3:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Now that Pavelec is back and healthy, I’m pretty scared of them. More than anyone else in the East.

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by sydtron on Dec 2, 2010 12:18 PM EST up reply actions  

No one scares me more than Montreal does.

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Dec 2, 2010 12:19 PM EST up reply actions  

But are your hands shaking?

by Ginga on Dec 2, 2010 12:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Atlanta reminds me of Montreal but with more talent/people playing to or above their contract levels.

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by sydtron on Dec 2, 2010 12:21 PM EST up reply actions  

They’re not your father’s Thrashers!

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by CapsFan75 on Dec 2, 2010 7:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Boston, Montreal, and Atlanta all scare me because any given night, they have a goalie that can shut you out, no matter how many shots you send their way.

Atlanta has topped the two best teams in hockey. They shut down Detroit for a 4-1 win recently. The Wings are winning 75% of their points. It’s ridiculous.

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by RedBirdie on Dec 2, 2010 12:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Is their game with the Pens on TV tonight?

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Dec 2, 2010 12:22 PM EST up reply actions  

no idea. I have to be at an event tonight. No hockey for me :(

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by RedBirdie on Dec 2, 2010 12:23 PM EST up reply actions  

im disappointed that our season series with BOS and ATL will be mostly or entirely over less than halfway through the season.

they’d be good benchmark games later in the season

by j762 on Dec 2, 2010 12:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Thomas Plekanec may be the most underrated player in the NHL.

by RCheli on Dec 2, 2010 12:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Dont worry, Halpy’s there. He’s this year’s undercover Cap…Like Brent was last year.

Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...

by dcsportsfan1 on Dec 2, 2010 1:56 PM EST up reply actions  

What? The Thrashers look really good this season.

by RCheli on Dec 2, 2010 12:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Grist for the mill… the only team that looks like a champion is the one whose captain accepts the Cup from the commissioner.

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by ThePeerless on Dec 2, 2010 1:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Per Katie C: Andrew Raycroft was the first goaltender off the ice for Dallas. A little curious bc Lehtonen’s played all but 3 games this yr.

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It just means Raycroft will play tonight and throw a shutout.

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Dec 2, 2010 12:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Probs.

"Now wait a minute. This is just purely a social call. You know, just two adults getting a stew on, man."

by The Ghost of Bebop on Dec 2, 2010 12:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Raycroft is 5-3-1, 2.16, 1 shutout in his career vs. Caps. I missed that myself when I put up the scribbles today.

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by ThePeerless on Dec 2, 2010 1:03 PM EST up reply actions  

And now, let the second-guessing about Dustin Byfuglien begin!

Adrien Dater, take it away!!

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Dec 2, 2010 12:26 PM EST reply actions  

meh, Chicago need to unload a ton of salary. Buff for some reason is one hell of a defenseman for what Atlanta needs out of one. Even though he pulled that stunt against Neuvirth I still sort of root for him because the Thrashers desperately need some love from the public. As far as being upset as to who left, I’d be more upset about Ladd leaving. If the Caps weren’t so stacked with wingers I wouldn’t have minded seeing him in (Caps) red.

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by sydtron on Dec 2, 2010 12:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Right. Keep Buff and part with…whom? Sharp? Hossa? Kane? Toews?

Because those 34 points and -7 rating just screamed “impending points explosion”.

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by fat_daddyo on Dec 2, 2010 12:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Well put. I doubt they wanted to dump him but if it comes down to Byfuglien or one of your top players? No contest, you keep the other guys. Peace out, Buff.

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by Becca H on Dec 2, 2010 12:42 PM EST up reply actions  

They should have gotten into a time machine and realized he would have a great season before they traded him. They were stupid not to.

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Dec 2, 2010 12:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Couple more points.

Byfuglien’s career shooting pct is 8.8%. But note that he racked up a considerable amount of that as a F.

His shooting pct this year is 9.8% as a D. That’s an 11% increase while moving to a position that typically shoots at ~50% loser than forwards. If you “adjust” by that admittedly rough factor, it’s like a forward shooting 19.6%.

He has a ton of shots (102 – the most of any D in the league), and by far the highest shooting percentage of the high shot total guys. As a point of reference, the next highest guy in shots is Chara, with 78, and he’s shooting 5.1%.

This all screams “anomaly” to me, no?

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by fat_daddyo on Dec 2, 2010 12:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah. And the fact that he never was that good at D in Chicago. He’ll come back to earth.

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by Rob Parker on Dec 2, 2010 5:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Also, he wasn’t a very good defenseman when he was in Chicago. He was moved to forward for a reason. Somehow (better coaching? maturity?) he’s become a much better guy back there in Atlanta than he ever was in Chicago.

by RCheli on Dec 2, 2010 12:49 PM EST up reply actions  

change of scenery? amazing what it can do for a guy.

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by RedBirdie on Dec 2, 2010 12:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Or…just better because he’s not being compared to guys like Keith and Seabrook?

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by Becca H on Dec 2, 2010 12:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Or…just a nice string of good bounces that won’t last?

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by fat_daddyo on Dec 2, 2010 12:59 PM EST up reply actions  

…also possible :P Was just trying to give him the benefit of the doubt, although I’m not sure why since I’m not really a fan of his. Honestly I think some of it is an anomaly and some of it is just a natural product of being asked to carry the load on a team w/out much high-end talent.

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by Becca H on Dec 2, 2010 1:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Or he got in shape.

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by ThePeerless on Dec 2, 2010 1:04 PM EST up reply actions  

no wakeboarding and hittin’ the sauce all summer like that worthless sack of pucks that Capitals just picked up

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by RedBirdie on Dec 2, 2010 1:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Or he’s scoring a lot of points and has a hot goalie behind him to keep him from getting the Mike Green treatment.

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by Killer_Carlson on Dec 2, 2010 2:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Sturm to LAK

Per Dreger and McKenzie Sturm to Kings

Boston clears cap space; fans recalculate the Thornton trade, well once they know the full trade details

Sturm returns to California

by sk84fun_dc on Dec 2, 2010 12:50 PM EST reply actions  

wow, didn’t see that one coming.

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by RedBirdie on Dec 2, 2010 12:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Poni is out long term for LA, I think, and BOS needed cap room. In hindsight, makes sense—Boston is deep at wing, LA not as much.

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by red army line on Dec 2, 2010 12:55 PM EST up reply actions  

do you know what the return is?

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by RedBirdie on Dec 2, 2010 12:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Sounds like prospect(s)/pick(s), which makes sense given Boston’s cap situation, but the details haven’t been released.

by sk84fun_dc on Dec 2, 2010 12:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Confirm that’s the only thing I’ve seen.

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by STLSpidey on Dec 2, 2010 12:58 PM EST up reply actions  

doesn’t Boston still have some picks in this next draft from Toronto?

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by Elliotte on Dec 2, 2010 1:00 PM EST up reply actions  

just a couple :) for the next gazillion years.

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by RedBirdie on Dec 2, 2010 1:02 PM EST up reply actions  

so you’re saying that Boston should just get their table put up on the stage since they’ll be up there like 1/4 of the time anyways?

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by Elliotte on Dec 2, 2010 1:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Marek with a good point…twitter- JeffMarek

“Lombardi drafted Sturm in San Jose. Knows the player very well.”

Also, Sturm waived his NTC.

by sk84fun_dc on Dec 2, 2010 1:07 PM EST up reply actions  

TSNBobMcKenzie Bob McKenzie

“Hearing the Bruins received a conditional draft pick for Sturm.”

by sk84fun_dc on Dec 2, 2010 1:18 PM EST up reply actions  

000

Let’s hope he can shake his bad reputation

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Dec 2, 2010 1:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Sturm! He’s highly addictive!

by Wheeler on Dec 2, 2010 3:17 PM EST up reply actions  

So glad that finally half-showed up

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Dec 2, 2010 3:20 PM EST up reply actions  

How the hell did Sturm get a NTC?

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by Killer_Carlson on Dec 2, 2010 2:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Everyone gets one. You don’t have one at your job?

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by STLSpidey on Dec 2, 2010 2:56 PM EST up reply actions  

clearly, that was a key piece I failed to negotiate at my last job

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by RedBirdie on Dec 2, 2010 2:58 PM EST up reply actions  

As the person who pulled together the player list and source info. to create a NTC/NMC list for nhlscap back a few years ago, it was amusing seeing some of the lengthy team lists, while other teams only had 1 or 2. Thank you George McPhee.

by sk84fun_dc on Dec 2, 2010 2:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Ahhh, Calgary. You and your locked-in roster for the next decade.

You had me at no problem.

by Ninjak on Dec 2, 2010 3:07 PM EST up reply actions  

I wish someone would trade me off the job market.

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by Killer_Carlson on Dec 2, 2010 3:05 PM EST up reply actions  

I tried, sorry. The general manager didn’t take the bait.

The guy is Peter Schumpmaker. Lord knows what a schump is, but you can bet your bippy his ancestors made them. What he's doing is far worse than crafting fine schumps.

by Steckel Me Elmo on Dec 2, 2010 3:24 PM EST up reply actions  

I think you have to go waivers for 48 hours first.

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by STLSpidey on Dec 2, 2010 3:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Unfortunately I’ve been on waivers for a lot longer than 48 hours.

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by Killer_Carlson on Dec 2, 2010 3:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Crawford is starting Raycroft tonight

Says he wants to give him a challenge.

So….this will be interesting.

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by Brandon Worley on Dec 2, 2010 1:16 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Indeed. Of course it could be partly due to the fact that Ovi’s got more goals against Lehtonen than any other goalie – perhaps Crawford doesn’t want to spark him by playing 8’s favorite chew toy? :P

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by Becca H on Dec 2, 2010 1:24 PM EST up reply actions  

You want ice time? We got yer ice time…right here.

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by EmilyB on Dec 2, 2010 1:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Raycroft has given the Caps fits a couple of times I can remember.

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by fat_daddyo on Dec 2, 2010 2:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Poti update from Katie:

Per BB, Poti won’t play in Dallas as a precaution. Suffered mild groin strain in STL but is better today than expected.

Show of hands, who is surprised by this development? No one? No one at all?

by “mild,” I assume that’s Caps-speak for “His groin is still technically attached to the bone.”

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by RedBirdie on Dec 2, 2010 1:39 PM EST reply actions  

Ow. I think I just had a sympathy pain.

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by boutros23 on Dec 2, 2010 1:42 PM EST up reply actions  

No way you can have the sympathy pain my dear.

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by STLSpidey on Dec 2, 2010 1:46 PM EST up reply actions  

do you wince every time someone brings up Green’s shot on Thorenson?

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by RedBirdie on Dec 2, 2010 1:55 PM EST up reply actions  

If there is a discussion that has the words “testicular torsion” or whatever it was called, yes. Absolutely. Random discussion, no. Video, yes – but not as bad as the medical discussion.

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by STLSpidey on Dec 2, 2010 1:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Someone brought up the story on here a while ago of when Kelly Hrudey got hit in the balls, and the trainer wrote it up as “player is half nuts”

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Dec 2, 2010 1:58 PM EST up reply actions  

George Carlin has a great routine about use of the English language. He points out that baseball announcers can say : “Jeter has two ball in the count.” However, they can’t say “Wow, that pitch just bounced and hit him in the balls.”

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by STLSpidey on Dec 2, 2010 2:02 PM EST up reply actions  

However, they can’t say "Wow, that pitch just bounced and hit him in the balls."

Unless you’re Dizzy Dean (allegedly)

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Dec 2, 2010 2:07 PM EST up reply actions  

I love that bit.

“Roberto Clemente has two balls on him!” is OK.

“I think he hurt his balls on that play!” is not.

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by Ninjak on Dec 2, 2010 2:15 PM EST up reply actions  

I believe the words used were “herniated testicle”.

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by SeattleCapsFan on Dec 2, 2010 2:01 PM EST up reply actions  

/not thinking about it

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by STLSpidey on Dec 2, 2010 2:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes you are!

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by Ninjak on Dec 2, 2010 2:15 PM EST up reply actions  

All of us males wince at thoughts of Thorenson…. or how Bill Ranford lost his starting job opening night in the 1997-98 season to Olie Kolzig…

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by MikeL-Pivonka on Dec 2, 2010 2:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Who would have thought that his groin was named Wally Pipp?

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Dec 2, 2010 2:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Hey, it was your people that started the whole thing…

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by fat_daddyo on Dec 2, 2010 2:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Fair enough, but I have no recollection of anything 8 days after my birth. I’d remember if it happened when I was 13.

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by STLSpidey on Dec 2, 2010 2:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Poor Tom :(

But as unsurprising as it is that the injury was groinal (…:D), it’s good news that it’s not as bad as it could have been. And actually for someone like Poti I’d prefer he didn’t play back-to-back games anyway. Precaution = good.

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by Becca H on Dec 2, 2010 1:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Don’t be so sure it’s good news. I think the only person who said it’s not that bad was Bruce, the same fellow who said Varly would be off the ice for a few days back at the start of the season.

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by bagace on Dec 2, 2010 4:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Poti needs groin replacement surgery.

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by Ninjak on Dec 2, 2010 4:08 PM EST up reply actions  

The man with the glass bottom groin!

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by CapsFan75 on Dec 2, 2010 7:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Bummer. I can’t believe all we have to put in the lineup is Fahey. Shit. Sloan would be better.

What? Oh, thank god. Way to go GMGM, and welcome to the Caps, Scott Hannan.

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by STLSpidey on Dec 2, 2010 1:45 PM EST up reply actions   4 recs

To be honest? We’ve got the points cushion, let’s play Fahey (shudder) and Sloan and let some of our battered top D-men rest a bit. Especially against a WC opponent. And especially with a groin injury. Those just keep coming back unless completely and totally healed.

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by SeattleCapsFan on Dec 2, 2010 1:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Too early. Suggest again in March.

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by STLSpidey on Dec 2, 2010 1:51 PM EST up reply actions  

We don’t need Fahey! We can play Sloan and Erskine and still rest both Green and Poti! It will never happen though.

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by Rob Parker on Dec 2, 2010 5:55 PM EST up reply actions  

True, but if I had the choice between sucking up and playing Fahey a few times or running Green and Poti into the ground, I’ll take the former. Just saying.

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by SeattleCapsFan on Dec 2, 2010 6:13 PM EST up reply actions  

You know I agree.

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by Rob Parker on Dec 2, 2010 6:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Discussing potential Richards trade over at DBD here.

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by fat_daddyo on Dec 2, 2010 3:07 PM EST reply actions  

Not very constructive, or realistic. Carlznerson aren’t going anywhere, and they seem to think they have to replace Richards’ contributions in a trade. I guess that is understandable, but if they are moving Richards at all it’s because they are out of the playoffs, in which case they don’t need to replace anything. In fact, if they move Richards it’s better to just tank and pray for a lottery (though the East and the Oilers are going to make that near impossible for DAL).

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by Rob Parker on Dec 2, 2010 6:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Depends. If Lehtonen gets hurt again and one of Benn, Neal or Eriksson gets hurt, they can make a real run at the bottom of the standings, given how strong the West is.

But yeah. If Richards is going anywhere, then it’s because they’re already cooked. Worst case scenario for them is that they hover just outside the playoff bubble and don’t make it. Entirely possible, the West is a lot better than the East this season.

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by Knee high to a duck on Dec 2, 2010 6:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Exactly.

There’s no way he’s being traded if the Stars are in the playoff picture.

Besides…and I’ve tried to tell this to people….the Stars aren’t going to get as good of value as they’d like. Not for an extremely expensive rental player.

Plus, I’m pretty sure 85% of all that was very tongue in cheek.

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by Brandon Worley on Dec 2, 2010 7:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, it didn’t seem serious. I’m sure those guys knew that AO and Backstrom weren’t going to be realistic. I think the Carlznerson stuff might have been, but it’s moot. While DAL is playing well they aren’t even going to entertain offers.

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by Rob Parker on Dec 2, 2010 7:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Per the team, the Caps have signed defensive prospect Brett Flemming to a 3 year ELC. He was drafted 145th overall (5th rd) in 2009.

by cobracg on Dec 2, 2010 3:12 PM EST reply actions  

And per us, you can talk about it here :)

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by Becca H on Dec 2, 2010 3:14 PM EST up reply actions  

More regarding Richards

From another Stars blog.

[…]after watching the telecast of the Stars-Hurricanes Monday night, extraordinary Stars reporter Mike Heika made an appearance and was asked about Brad Richards and whether or not Richards would stay with Dallas. His answer was roughly “nearly impossible to keep him with Dallas,” so that’s a cause of concern. He’s the team’s leading point-getter who makes everyone around him better. What Heika explained in detail though, is that it will be pretty tough to resign Richards if the ownership situation isn’t figured out by the time contract talks need to be concluded.

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by fat_daddyo on Dec 2, 2010 3:15 PM EST reply actions  

I heard Richards on the radio a week or two ago and the way he was talking, it really sounded like he’s planning on not being in Dallas after the deadline – he said he’s had conversations w/ Nieuwendyk already (although he wouldn’t reveal what was said in them) and talked about the unstable leadership, the rough travel in the West, etc.

Obviously this is just one person’s opinion, so if anyone else was listening and got a different vibe, please way in. To me, however, it sounds like Richie wants to head back to the East.

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by Becca H on Dec 2, 2010 3:22 PM EST up reply actions  

I still don’t think they’ll trade him at the deadline if they’re in the playoffs, though. Which is a bummer.

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by fat_daddyo on Dec 2, 2010 3:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Meh… If Dallas is looking like a serious contender in February, it would be very hard trade Richards. Fans would not like that.

Then again, it’s hard to lose an asset like that for nothing if they wind up missing the playoffs, or flaming out in the 1st round. Just ask Florida. Who’s to say? All I know is, the price would be steep indeed. The best we could offer is probably, as other have suggested, Fehr + 1st rounder + a prospect or two.

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by Ninjak on Dec 2, 2010 3:31 PM EST up reply actions  

You don’t even have to ask the fans. Just ask the owners. They need money and even a first round sweep is millions of dollars in their pocket.

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by Rob Parker on Dec 2, 2010 5:57 PM EST up reply actions  

unstable leadership

It’s Tom Hicks, you’re being redundant.

/LFC fan

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by Bald Pollack on Dec 2, 2010 3:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Here is how I see it.

The fact is that Brad loves living in Dallas. He’s the most important player on this team and he’s finally taking control of that locker room. He’s leading this team now and he’s setting the tone offensively for the entire roster.

He also wants stability. If he signs long term with the Stars, he wants to know this franchise has the ability to build a consistently successful team. Right now, that is all up in the air. That’s the main issue.

Unless there’s a new owner in place soon, then there’s not even a guarantee the Stars can actually afford him. Nieuwendyk has back loaded several contracts and the payroll of he Stars is going to increase next season as it is.

This doesn’t mean a trade is inevitable.

For one, Richards has a full NTC. It’s going to be tough to coordinate a suitable return from a team Richards approves.

But if the Stars are staring the playoffs in the face, he’s not going to be traded. I can promise you that Nieuwendyk will home on to him and bet on new ownership or approved higher payroll prior to free agency. The Stars need to make the postseason this year and there’s no way Richards offensive production will be replaced in a trade.

I don’t think a trade is likely. Losing him to FA is a distinct possibility.

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by Brandon Worley on Dec 2, 2010 3:57 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Makes sense. Just sounded like he didn’t sound too optimistic given the ownership situation, but he was very positive about the team and the city in general – I think if he does end up getting traded or leaving via FA it won’t be because he’s just dying to get out (a la Kovalchuk).

That NTC is a killer, though, you’re right. Any team that wants him knows that he’ll probably be hitting the UFA market and can be acquired without giving up assets – other than a boatload of money, of course – so the odds of him wanting to go to a team and that team making Dallas an offer rich enough to get him are probably pretty slim.

That being said…if a team is desperate enough for him and thinks he’s the final piece to their Cup hopes this year rather than down the line, they might be willing to make the Stars an offer they can’t refuse. It’ll be interesting to see where the Stars end up by the deadline (although you guys are doing really well, it might have to be an insanely lopsided deal to pry him away if the Stars keep this up!).

Eh. I’d love him here but I don’t want GMGM to mortgage the farm for him if other true 2C options can be pursued for less. Plus I like the Stars, I want them to do well in the playoffs.

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by Becca H on Dec 2, 2010 4:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Today’s crazy fact:

Brian Boyle (Brian Boyle!) has the same number of goals as Alexander Ovechkin.

by Wheeler on Dec 2, 2010 5:16 PM EST reply actions  

That makes me… a sad panda.

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by Ninjak on Dec 2, 2010 5:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Erskine, Steckel and Hendricks have 1 less goal than Kovalchuk

the world is now righted

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by sydtron on Dec 2, 2010 5:45 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

For the prospect geeks here’s a list of Sweden’s World Juniors squad.
It’s a 30 name list so seven players won’t make the squad.

The big names are obviously included like Adam Larsson, Ludvig Rensfeldt, Robin Lehner, Gabriel Landeskog, Anton Lander and Calle Järnkrok (Yay!)
 Personally I’m really excited to see how Jonas Brodin will do a young d- man that plays for Marcus team Färjestad.
Nicklas Swedish club Brynäs continues to produce an inpressive number of good young player’s – they have five players on the list.

by Malin A on Dec 2, 2010 5:17 PM EST reply actions   2 recs

Calle Iron Hook.

:: sigh ::

Y o Y does he have to be a baby Red Wing.

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by EmilyB on Dec 2, 2010 6:25 PM EST up reply actions  

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