Thursday Caps Clips: Better Effort, Similar Result
Your savory breakfast links:
- Recaps and other assorted musings on last night's loss from us, Vogs, NHL.com (Rosen), CSN Washington (Masisak), WaPo (Carrera: blog, gamer), DCEx (McNally), Caps365 video (Boudreau, players), CSN Washington (Beninati), Frankovic, Peerless, RMNB, KOL, Capitals News Network, Capitals Outsider, Puckhead, clyderorama (pics) and bridgetds (pics).
- Brooks Laich defends his coach (as he has before... at least twice). [ESPN]
- Comprehensive 24/7 Episode 1 coverage:
- Before... [Ted's Take, Puck Daddy, HotH]
- ... and after. [D.C. Sports Bog, NHL.com (Condor), FanHouse (Gretz), SB Nation DC, A.V. Club, ESPN (LeBrun), Slap Shot, Puck The Media, RMNB (with the most original take on it), Puckhead, PHT, OWO, DC Landing Strip]
- One significant takeaway from 24/7 (besides that the visitor's locker room at MSG is horrendous) - Mike Green missed the two games prior to last night with a sprained MCL.
- Check out our own Pepper on the Houses of the Hockey Podcast. [HotH]
- The Caps will rebound. Of course they will. [ESPN ($)]
- Keeping the faith, owner edition. [FanHouse (Perez)]
- Time to go to Plan B. What? There is no Plan B? [Box Seats]
- Green will be doing his weekly spot on LaVar and Dukes this afternoon at 4:45 on 106.7 The Fan.
- Speaking of LaVar, keeping the faith, retired linebacker edition. [Hard Hits]
- "Coach's Challenge" - yay or nay? [RtR]
- A couple of Caps hanging tough in the December Calder Poll. [HF]
- Nicklas Backstrom scores, assist to Jose Theodore. [OFB]
- A firsthand account from Green's benefit concert. [RtR]
- Catching up with Cody Eakin (whose hair is looking marvelous here). [FanShot]
- On old friend Jeff Halpern. [Gazette]
- Finally, happy 33rd birthday to Eric Belanger (and, FYI, you know this birthday wish is legit because it's in writing).
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So, question for the class – did anything you saw last night on 24/7 change (or reinforce) your opinion of Boudreau with regards to his job security?
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Nah. If anything it reinforced my opinion of AO as captain.
/ducks
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by Bald Pollack on Dec 16, 2010 7:30 AM EST up reply actions
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What, you’re not comfortable having your team led by a man who wears briefs?
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by J.P. on Dec 16, 2010 7:34 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Man, I am sorry I missed this. I will have to find an upload of it somewhere online! From all the reviews it seems like a lot of interesting information.
I like Laich, but I <3 Green
by RockinRed4Life on Dec 16, 2010 7:37 AM EST up reply actions
I have no idea where you might be able to find one.
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by J.P. on Dec 16, 2010 7:39 AM EST up reply actions 5 recs
it’s like a live-action South Park. I fucking love it. And uber-thanks for posting the link!
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I can almost imagine this particular speech in an inspirational movie about a hockey team who gets off to a crappy start but gets hot later in the year and wins that championship in the process (and beats the big bad guys along the way.)
“Watch out for the Bad News Bears”
Rocking the Red for teams on the banks of the Potomac and at the Gateway Arch and Singing the Blues about Hockey.
I was surprised Shatz has such a big TV for that moment.
The one thing I kept thinking about last night was Dryden’s “The Game,” and how much insight into the room came from that. I know that in a vacuum and looking at things over the last week we’re not going to see true dynamics of that on either side based on their respective performance, which is a shame because I’d like to see the room on the Caps side return to some form of normalcy to truly make an opinion on it.
But if that happens and the room remains sorta quiet, than yeesh.
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by Bald Pollack on Dec 16, 2010 7:40 AM EST up reply actions
And if they’ve “got his back,” they may want to consider putting some Wet Ones in his pocket while they’re there.
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by Bald Pollack on Dec 16, 2010 7:44 AM EST up reply actions
The team needs to get its asses out of its heads. Simple as that.
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#BoudreauMetaphors
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by Bald Pollack on Dec 16, 2010 7:48 AM EST up reply actions
Deep Thoughts by Bruce Handey
The team needs to get its asses out of its heads. Simple as that.
I poured spot remover on my dog. Now he's gone.
by Rather Bengt on Dec 16, 2010 7:49 AM EST up reply actions
They sure do need to sock up their pulls, buncha donna primas…
Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...
by dcsportsfan1 on Dec 16, 2010 8:53 AM EST up reply actions
The best line was Ovechkin telling the ref that Liles must have sensitive skin if Sasha made him bleed.
"Semin had two goals this year, Perreault comes in and he gets three."
by jordanDC on Dec 16, 2010 8:58 AM EST up reply actions 9 recs
/rec’d.
Not even a question. That was by far the best line of the night, although Evason was close behind with he liberal use of the word “sack.”
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he said sack? I could have sworn he said sock, along the lines of this.
Maybe the bleeding explains a little more why Sasha got the major and game, instead of something less
LET'S GO CAPS!!!
Good guess. But, no.
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Of course you don’t.
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That’s what I thought – think it must have been his speaking the Canadian
Be original. This means don't do things like say "I love the smell of Irony early in the morning" or post a picture of a nerd and say, "Mom's basement" in an internet forum. You will not even have been in the first 1,000,000 people to have done it. Etc...
It was also great when AO and Dubinsky said, “Good job, Buddy” after their fight. I enjoyed that immensely.
by DrinkingPartner on Dec 16, 2010 9:06 AM EST up reply actions
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by J.P. on Dec 16, 2010 9:06 AM EST up reply actions 6 recs
What got edited out:
“Well he probably has sensitive skin, no?
And I definitely recommend Gillette Pro-Lube Aftershave for that…"
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by fat_daddyo on Dec 16, 2010 11:23 AM EST up reply actions 8 recs
I totally forgot about that. Definitely a highlight.
Less drama, more hockey
by SeattleCapsFan on Dec 16, 2010 10:54 AM EST up reply actions
I think “We’re going to find out who did this. And probably do nothing about it” is underrated.
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Dec 16, 2010 2:31 PM EST up reply actions
And the response to Evason’s second-period ripping in NY (i.e. the third period)… was underwhelming. Good stuff from Dean-o, though, and it inspired me to grab my sac and go to work this morning.
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Which leads to the question: Has Dean Evason lost this team?
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by Rather Bengt on Dec 16, 2010 7:52 AM EST up reply actions
And if Dean was the one chewin’ them out… has Bruce lost Bob Woods?
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Perhaps. The omission of Woods so far was interesting. Then again, I still keep in mind the footage HBO selected to show thus far. Woods was certainly inconspicuous in general though.
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Eh, he’s an assistant coach and the Caps get half of a one-hour show. I wouldn’t expect to see him much.
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I’m not. Eh, Greg Smith is the athletic trainer. It’s definitely anyone’s guess as to how much footage of any member of the team staff will be shown. I was just musing on your rhetorical question and saying what I observed.
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by Christoph J on Dec 16, 2010 11:04 AM EST up reply actions
I’m surprised he wears underwear at all.
John Carlson - Glory follows him.
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He’s no Brett Favre then.
I poured spot remover on my dog. Now he's gone.
by Rather Bengt on Dec 16, 2010 7:56 AM EST up reply actions
Can’t say I saw it—but I followed the recap as it was going on. From the sounds of it, Gabby has a role on Deadwood if they ever revive it.
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by Rather Bengt on Dec 16, 2010 7:40 AM EST up reply actions
You have to hope (and assume) that he’s not like that when the team is winning. Wow.
At least so far this week the Pens haven’t won either, so there’s that. Just need to get Sid off his points streak now. And Alex back on one.
"It's always good to have vikings."
I was a bit disappointed the Pens-Flyers streak-ending game didn’t make this episode, but at least the Pens were nice enough to go and lose 2 in a row so far
LET'S GO CAPS!!!
At least that is a good reminder that hot teams don’t stay hot….and by the inverse logic…cold teams won’t stay cold…
I like Laich, but I <3 Green
by RockinRed4Life on Dec 16, 2010 7:58 AM EST up reply actions
I think Islander fans would like a word with you
"In the depths of winter, I learned there was in me an invincible summer" ~Albert Camus
I should have worded it….a team with clear talent won’t stay on a hot streak just like a team with clear talent wont stay on a cold one…
they probably still want a word with me but for a completely different reason.
I like Laich, but I <3 Green
by RockinRed4Life on Dec 16, 2010 9:07 AM EST up reply actions
Well, he wouldn’t be very good for Deadwood, is my point.
by DrinkingPartner on Dec 16, 2010 8:52 AM EST up reply actions
Deadspin.com would agree with you…
HBO’s 24/7 Penguins/Capitals premiered last night, and we were promised profanity. Either we got it, or they accidentally put Deadwood back on the air.
Less drama, more hockey
by SeattleCapsFan on Dec 16, 2010 11:01 AM EST up reply actions
What I thought the most revealing thing about the show (besides learning Mike Green has a knee issue, NOT a shoulder issue) is that Boudreau is trying to implement a new system this year. It could explain why this season they haven’t shown the cohesiveness that they’ve have over the prior 2-1/2 years. If he can continue to get them to play like last night (and maybe the stars can stop hitting fucking pipes), it’s a system that could work through the playoffs. Since the prior system was his to begin with, I’ve got to give him props for trying to teach them something else.
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What I thought the most revealing thing about the show (besides learning Mike Green has a knee issue, NOT a shoulder issue)…
The two are not mutually exclusive, of course.
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the knee bone’s connected to the…shoulder bone
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by ThePeerless on Dec 16, 2010 12:02 PM EST up reply actions
I believe the show confirms a theorem posited by Ebby Calvin “Nuke” LaLoosh, who said “I loooove winning. It’s, like, better than losing?”
Also that, contrary to what my wife has suggested, if anything I’ve been underusing the word Fuck. Even after last night’s game.
Well he probably has sensitive skin, no?
by redlineblue on Dec 16, 2010 9:15 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I’m not sure, actually. What was curious were the moments of interaction between Shero and Bylsma and the moments of interaction between McPhee and Boudreau. I realize as a whole HBO most likely chose to show select moments that help paint the developing narrative of the series and the contrasting dynamics between the two teams. That said, it left me wondering more about the working relationship between McPhee and Boudreau.
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I thought they were similar. From what I remember, we got to see a whole lot more of Shero and Bylsma than we did GMGM and BB. The only BB, GMGM interaction we got to see was the two of them talking about Green and everyone being sick.
Maybe it was just blind homerism or they shifted more of the Caps stuff to the end, but it seemed to me like we saw more of the Pens stuff than we did the Caps. Does anybody have a time split on the two?
LET'S GO CAPS!!!
I’m trying really hard not to worry about that. I enjoyed both parts equally, to be honest.
"Semin had two goals this year, Perreault comes in and he gets three."
It was nice seeing the Pens as humans for once, rather than stone-cold enemies.
by DrinkingPartner on Dec 16, 2010 8:47 AM EST up reply actions
I did enjoy some parts, like seeing the guys move all the hotel furniture out into the hallway/lobby. The mustache boy thing was something I’ve never heard about. And it’s interesting that their locker room is a big circle instead of your typical square
LET'S GO CAPS!!!
I’ll admit that I thought that was a huge thing. The Caps locker room is unevenly shaped, it seems, with Varly sitting off in a corner that leads to a hallway out of the room. The circle room is a great idea.
by DrinkingPartner on Dec 16, 2010 8:51 AM EST up reply actions
Must be nice to have an arena specifically designed for a hockey team.
"Semin had two goals this year, Perreault comes in and he gets three."
More than that, it seems short-sighted to allow some of the team to not be on equal/even sight lines of the coach, regardless of the sport.
by DrinkingPartner on Dec 16, 2010 8:54 AM EST up reply actions
Just like dining tables – circles/ovals better than squares/rectangles for conversation/eye contact! I think I had read somewhere that the Pens circle-shaped locker room was also an homage to the shape of their former arena, the igloo.
by Ray of Sunshine on Dec 16, 2010 10:18 AM EST up reply actions
Caps’ room is a rectangle. Quick, round the corners!
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Perfect for all those Swedes and Russians.
/Grapes’d
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by Bald Pollack on Dec 16, 2010 10:59 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
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by Rather Bengt on Dec 16, 2010 11:16 AM EST up reply actions 5 recs
I think it’s the new trend in sports locker rooms. No corners for guys to hide in. The Nats did the same thing at their new ballpark. Some references to how Barry Bonds used to have his own corner of the Giants locker room and was pretty isolated. Shocker.
Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...
by dcsportsfan1 on Dec 16, 2010 10:31 AM EST up reply actions
Ted just added #102 to his list of things to do at the Verizon Center
by Ray of Sunshine on Dec 16, 2010 2:06 PM EST up reply actions
Verizon center should have five points, an homage to the Pentagon
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by ThePeerless on Dec 16, 2010 12:03 PM EST up reply actions
It would also be ideal for drawing pentagrams in slump-busting rituals.
"Semin had two goals this year, Perreault comes in and he gets three."
We’d just need virgin blood! It’d be so easy!
by DrinkingPartner on Dec 16, 2010 12:36 PM EST up reply actions
. . . with Ovechkin around?
If wishes were horses, we'd all be eating steak.
by Hang a Laingtern on Your Problems on Dec 16, 2010 12:39 PM EST up reply actions
If so, we’ll have to resort to babies, everyone.
by DrinkingPartner on Dec 16, 2010 12:45 PM EST up reply actions
Did you catch how awful the MSG locker room is, with that post right in the middle?
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Granted, it’s an 80 year old building, but I can’t help thinking that it was intentional. Good tactics, actually.
by DrinkingPartner on Dec 16, 2010 8:57 AM EST up reply actions
Really? Where did I hear 80 years, then?
by DrinkingPartner on Dec 16, 2010 10:39 AM EST up reply actions
There were several predecessor MSGs in different locations. MSG III was built in 1925 so perhaps that is what you are thinking of.
there have been four MSG’s, only two of which were actually on the Madison Square site. The one at 49th and 8th Ave was built in 1925 and replaced in 1968.
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by ThePeerless on Dec 16, 2010 12:06 PM EST up reply actions
I thought it was the janitor’s closet
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by ThePeerless on Dec 16, 2010 12:03 PM EST up reply actions
Matt Cooke is a two. Shocker.
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I’m sad we ever let him get away. I’d have signed him for 3 or 4 years if it’d been my decision.
by DrinkingPartner on Dec 16, 2010 8:53 AM EST up reply actions
I’d say that was a silly idea if Chimera had a couple more points.
"Semin had two goals this year, Perreault comes in and he gets three."
Hendricks wouldn’t be here, likely, if we’d had both.
by DrinkingPartner on Dec 16, 2010 9:02 AM EST up reply actions
Logical! I keep forgetting Hendricks somehow when I’m thinking of bottom 6 guys. Love how he plays, though.
"Semin had two goals this year, Perreault comes in and he gets three."
I like him, too, but given the choice between him and Cooke, I’m taking Cooke.
by DrinkingPartner on Dec 16, 2010 9:07 AM EST up reply actions
Might even be able to squeeze in all 3. It just means that a Gordon doesn’t get in.
by DrinkingPartner on Dec 16, 2010 9:10 AM EST up reply actions
What I learned is that Bruce has definitely not lost the room, so I don’t think he’s in any danger of being replaced. In regard to the Evason rant, I think it was more that there was something else to listen to: Bruce had already ranted the period before, and it’s not as if a strategy briefing was going to help them at that point. Getting their asses out of their heads and beating off the NYR had nothing to do with anything Bruce could say, it was something the Caps were going to have to pull together and do out on the ice. Last night’s game was a great game in the 1st and 2nd, but they’re super pensive about the losing streak, and you could tell that those damn posts were in their heads, ringing over and over again.
by DrinkingPartner on Dec 16, 2010 8:50 AM EST up reply actions
The thing I didn’t like about the Evason rant was that it came across as browbeating, thus counterproductive at that moment. They were already low and it seemed to lower them more. Something to break the tension and air of defeat would have been better.
(Yes, I know about the avatar hounding - just pretend mine is invisible.)
“You go get ‘em, guys! We’ll beat ’em! This is a swell plan to score a goal!” is more patronizing than helpful at that point, though, too.
by DrinkingPartner on Dec 16, 2010 10:39 AM EST up reply actions
You guys are the suckiest bunch of sucks that ever sucked!
"Semin had two goals this year, Perreault comes in and he gets three."
“I gotta go Moe, my damn wiener kids are listening.”
"Now wait a minute. This is just purely a social call. You know, just two adults getting a stew on, man."
by The Ghost of Bebop on Dec 16, 2010 10:48 AM EST up reply actions
1- BB looks as good in a warm up suit as I anticipated
2- On the surface he seemed like a guy who is pressing and yelling to the point where the players are tuning him out. However, it’s hard for me to say for sure since you really didn’t see him during every intermission/post game. It could be that HBO is cherry picking the worst rants to show. Clearly he’s not getting the response he was looking for.
3- I don’t think it is a good picture of a guy who is trying to turn things around. We’ll see how Bylsma handles the Pens two game losing skid for comparison.
Couple other observations:
I liked the Slapshot musical interlude when the Pens were on the bus.
The trasposition of the home locker rooms was pretty pronounced. Clearly the Pens being a primary tennant in a new building helps, but wow, nice digs.
Will we see Sid cussing and drinking?
Fuck you, Geno
Scott Hannan, definitely rent
Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...
by dcsportsfan1 on Dec 16, 2010 8:51 AM EST up reply actions 5 recs
Scott Hannan, definitely rent
I’m recing you so hard.
"Semin had two goals this year, Perreault comes in and he gets three."
I guess. Can we hold off on Lunching Hannan though? I mean, give the guy a little time.
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*lynching. Dammit! See those are the kind of spelling mistakes we can’t afford to make during a losing streak.
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Well, I was referring mostly to his status as a UFA at years end. The HBO narrative suggested he might stick around if things go well. But yeah, his play so far hasn’t suggested he should make a long term investment here. But he’s had three or four different d partners to deal with. The communication is clearly off as evidenced by the GWG last night.
Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...
by dcsportsfan1 on Dec 16, 2010 8:59 AM EST up reply actions
I agree with you logically, but he was so bad last night that it’s tough to get over.
by DrinkingPartner on Dec 16, 2010 8:56 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah, I’m just still raging about his play. The team was solid, except for him.
"Semin had two goals this year, Perreault comes in and he gets three."
He looked terrible for two or three plays. Other than that I actually thought he was pretty solid. I mean, would you rather him or T-Slo? That’s how I’ve always looked at it.
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Last night? Sloan 10 ways from Sunday. Hannan was awful. Awful.
by DrinkingPartner on Dec 16, 2010 8:59 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah. He was beyond bad. You can’t freeze up and screen your goalie like he did against Getzlaf, or pass up a shot when you’re all alone in the slot, like he did on the first shift.
What pissed me off is that Getzlaf wasn’t even heads-up on his play. He knew what he was going to do, and probably could have been thwarted or at least held up if he was engaged by any of the four Caps that were nearby.
"Semin had two goals this year, Perreault comes in and he gets three."
Hannan sucked on that play but why is Carlson escaping the blame? He let Getzlaf get away.
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He stunk too, but the way Hannan froze between engaging Getzlaf or covering the net was atrocious.
"Semin had two goals this year, Perreault comes in and he gets three."
Agreed. And while we’re at it, AO has some culpability there, too.
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But that’s not his man. He could’ve slipped down a little farther to get his stick in the way, but the point’s his responsibility in that situation. It sucks, but I didn’t have a problem with his positioning.
by DrinkingPartner on Dec 16, 2010 9:13 AM EST up reply actions
When a guy beats the D out of the corner, the forward needs to be aware and collapse down on him in support. Sure, it leaves the point, but with Hannan also responsible for the front, help from the forward is warranted.
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Probably a case of being over-conservative, then. AO doesn’t want to leave his point in case he can’t get back to get in front of the shot. I still don’t have a problem with it, because he should be able to trust that Hannan’s not going to do what he did. Hannan had no excuse for playing it the way he did. I think AO at least gets the benefit of the doubt.
by DrinkingPartner on Dec 16, 2010 9:25 AM EST up reply actions
Ovi did look a lot more engaged in the defensive zone last night than he has most of the season
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by Sombrero Guy on Dec 16, 2010 9:41 AM EST up reply actions
He actually had his stick on the ice in his own zone for large chunks of the game. That’s a first this year and something I hope he sticks to.
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by Knee high to a duck on Dec 16, 2010 10:42 AM EST up reply actions
This was absolutely huge, to me. Someone yesterday mentioned about all five Red Wings always being down below the circles and there was more than one occasion, even with Ovi’s line out there, where all five Capitals were down below the circles trying to dig it out. Very nice if it continues.
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Not sure who’s supposed to mark Getzlaf there, but I’m pretty sure the gameplan wasn’t to leave him alone. Ovi appeared to hesitate and, even if it’s not his guy, he probably should have gone down lower to help out.
Then again, each guy has to play his position and trust that the other guy is doing their job. BB has been preaching that guys need to stick with the system. If Ovi collapses and the puck gets to the point for a goal, then Ovi’s the scapegoat. I think that’s Exhibit A of the learning pains associated with implementing a new system.
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by dcsportsfan1 on Dec 16, 2010 10:03 AM EST up reply actions
Well, the gameplan is for Carlson not to get beat, obviously. That said, the next player on Getz was supposed to be Hannan who froze and didn’t know what to do about it.
by DrinkingPartner on Dec 16, 2010 10:41 AM EST up reply actions
All the players on the ice grab a piece of the blame for that one.
Carlson could not tie up Getzlaf in the corner, and then got scrubbed off in the wash when someone (Ryan?) cut between him and Getzlaf. He needs to tie up Getzlaf and then needs to fight through Ryan to keep with him.
Hannan got caught in between when he needs to force Getzlaf coming out of the corner, and not allow him to walk into the circle.
AO and Backs need to put back pressure on him and win a puck battle to neutralize the chance, instead of standing and watching.
And Varly’s got to make a save on a shot that wasn’t screened.
On the first goal, Alzner’s got to tie up his man’s stick better than what he did.
But they allowed 1 through regulation and 2 including overtime, which ought to be good enough to get two points. So that’s something.
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It was Visnovsky that skated between to enforce the separation between Carlson and Getzlaf.
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by Knee high to a duck on Dec 16, 2010 11:14 AM EST up reply actions
In some circles, the play you describe would be considered interference. I wonder if Carlson had initiated contact there and fallen down if there’d have been a penalty called.
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He’d have to keep his feet moving, first, but there’s a good chance. Lubo was coming with speed around the corner, definitely a veteran play to screen off two defenders like that. He judged the distance between the two pretty well and timed it almost perfectly.
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by Knee high to a duck on Dec 16, 2010 11:24 AM EST up reply actions
Exactly how I’d describe it – a veteran play. And with some seasoning, Carlson probably makes the veteran play of drawing a call for it.
The goal again, for quick reference:
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In other words, a good Lub job.
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by Rather Bengt on Dec 16, 2010 11:30 AM EST up reply actions
Smart play by Lubo but Getzlaf already had plenty of separation. Regardless of the pick there wasn’t much of a chance Carlson was going to get back out on Getzlaf in time to block that shot or take away the attempt.
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I don’t think he was going to stop it completely, but I do think he could have hurried it somewhat. Getzlaf gets a step-and-a-half off of the stop-start, but Carlson sees Lubo coming and just stops skating. Getzlaf settles into the soft spot, lines up his shot and scores.
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by Knee high to a duck on Dec 16, 2010 2:04 PM EST up reply actions
A step and a half may as well be a mile for Getzlaf there. If he’s a lefty maybe Carlson has a chance, but with a right handed shot and a step and a half Getzlaf essentially had all day.
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not the way they were calling it last night. Both sides got away with a few things.
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by Sombrero Guy on Dec 16, 2010 11:33 AM EST up reply actions
Varlamov sure looked screened to me.
by DrinkingPartner on Dec 16, 2010 11:38 AM EST up reply actions
Carlson’s a rookie who’s never played against Getz before, too. It’s like I said last night, next year, if Carlson gives up the same play, I’ll get mad, but not now.
by DrinkingPartner on Dec 16, 2010 9:08 AM EST up reply actions
And it’s not like Getzlaf is some third liner. He’s one of the best (and most physical) first line centers in the game.
The guy is Peter Schumpmaker. Lord knows what a schump is, but you can bet your bippy his ancestors made them. What he's doing is far worse than crafting fine schumps.
by Steckel Me Elmo on Dec 16, 2010 10:51 AM EST up reply actions
He’s not (at least in my head). Getzlaf shrugged him off like you or I might shoo a fly.
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Watch the play again. Carlson has him until he stops near the goal-line, then Lubo skates down and sets a pick between JC and Getzlaf. Hannan was near the crease, where he was supposed to be – Corey tweeted that Getzlaf may have been AO’s man at that point. Hannan shouldn’t have been frozen, but there was a lot that went right for the Ducks on that play, as well as the Caps making mistakes.
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by Knee high to a duck on Dec 16, 2010 10:41 AM EST up reply actions
I don’t see how Getzlaf becomes AO’s man there. You’d have to ask BB but it doesn’t make much sense to me. There was a point man up behind AO that he had to at least respect, and Perry was at the point on Backstrom’s side of the ice. If they were playing a strict man-to-man, as many teams do 4 on 4, then Hannan would have been out at the point covering Perry. Clearly that didn’t happen. That means the Caps are playing a system where the two forwards cover the two points, regardless of the formal positions of the point men, and the D cover the two men down low. Only if three men go down low would a forward be responsible for covering a low man. You could ask AO to collapse on Getzlaf, but that’s hindsight. If AO collapses and Getzlaf hits Fowler (or whoever it was at the point behind AO) then we are talking about AO being undisciplined in his coverage.
And again, I don’t think the pick did much. Getzlaf had opened up space before Lubo even got involved.
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The idea that Getzlaf was AO’s man is per a possibility mentioned by Corey. I have no idea who’s man he was there.
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by Knee high to a duck on Dec 16, 2010 2:05 PM EST up reply actions
I saw that you gave Corey credit. I’m just responding to that suggestion based on what I see in that play and what I know about general 4/4 coverage. Like I said, you’d really have to ask BB, but it doesn’t make too much sense unless BB advocates out-manning the opposition down low even on 4/4.
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I still have faith that he’ll come around and be a very good 5-6 D. Sloan will never be that.
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Sloan knows the system, though, and would’ve fuckin’ shot.
by DrinkingPartner on Dec 16, 2010 9:03 AM EST up reply actions
That said, I agree. Hannan isn’t a bad player, but he’s not comfortable, yet, and he played terribly because of it.
by DrinkingPartner on Dec 16, 2010 9:03 AM EST up reply actions
Not just no, but hell no. Hannan probably doesn’t convert from that spot (if we’re comparing Sloan, we saw him miss from that exact spot and situation against the ‘Ning last season). Hannan saw half-again as much of the Perry/Getzlaf/Ryan line as he did of anyone else from the Ducks. He pulled the hard assignments and other than that play in OT, that line didn’t do anything.
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by Knee high to a duck on Dec 16, 2010 10:48 AM EST up reply actions
Just realized that this was a response to me :-P.
Obviously, I’m enough of an educated fan to know that Sloan’s not an NHLer, but Hannan still appears to be so green in this system and with these partners (outlined in the noon number as not being constant – which is certainly not his fault) that it causes me hesitation. Hannan made the most egregious mistakes, and that’s what inspires my above comment.
by DrinkingPartner on Dec 16, 2010 2:39 PM EST up reply actions
Hilarious. You’ve either forgotten just how brutal Sloan is or you’ve been hanging out with Ovechwin too much.
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Plus, right now, I don’t think Sloan would have exhibited the sheer confusion that Hannan seemed to, last night. Hannan’ll get better as he gets more used to everything, but he was inexcusably bad last night.
by DrinkingPartner on Dec 16, 2010 2:00 PM EST up reply actions
Sloan is one of the poorest thinkers on the team. Maybe on those specific plays he wouldn’t have shown the confusion, but guaranteed on other plays he would have cost the team with his inability to process the play.
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In Sloan’s defense, let me clarify what I think you mean by “poorest” – you mean (I believe) slowest, not necessarily that the decisions he makes are awful, just that they aren’t made at NHL speed. Feel free to correct my interpretation, of course, but that’s my feel on him.
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That’s exactly what I mean. He just doesn’t read the play and respond as fast as the NHL play happens. Of course, sometimes that does lead to flat out awful decisions (like having all the time in the world behind the net and inexplicably dumping the puck to Sidney Crosby).
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Will we see Sid cussing and drinking?
No way, no how. He won’t let himself cuss around the cameras. I’m being serious. He has an image to uphold.
If Sid is heard saying “Fuckin Flyers. God fucking damnit, let’s grow a dick and kick their fucking asses sideways,” all hell breaks loose in Canada.
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Thank God HBO’s an American company.
by DrinkingPartner on Dec 16, 2010 8:56 AM EST up reply actions
I don’t think for a minute that HBO would shy away from showing Sid cursing. I really don’t think he will.
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Yet more evidence that the man has all the personality of a bowl of unsweetened oatmeal.
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I know that’s what everyone says and maybe it’s true, but I’m so bored with hearing it. Sid is vanilla, Ovechkin is electric, we know.
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Sid-stache.
Need I say more?
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Ugh. That has to go. You can’t tell me he thinks it looks good. Well, you can, and that would start a whole new bashing thread.
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As for the Sid ’stache, he is on a 20 game point streak with it.
You do know how superstitious he is, right? It’s a bit ridiculous.
….he’s had it for 20 games and that’s as far as it’s gotten? Wow.
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Crosby-hating aside, the Pens locker room looks like a fun place. Then again I’m sure the Caps locker room was a fun place last year during the streak.
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yeah, I can’t wait to see the next episode where the Caps have won some games and the Pens have lost their streak and have started a losing one
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I asked the same question on the open thread and one of the Pens guys said Crosby likes to drink Crown Royal. We’ll see. I don’t think it would hurt his image to drop an f-bomb or two in the heat of battle. I’m sure Canadians curse sometimes.
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by dcsportsfan1 on Dec 16, 2010 8:57 AM EST up reply actions
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I’m sure Canadians curse sometimes.
Fuckin’ eh, they do.
by b.orr4 on Dec 16, 2010 9:50 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I know Crosby is the face and everything, but for every vanilla Canadian like Keith and Crosby, you can point out Corey Perry and Chris Pronger.
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I know now that Boudreau is saying all the right things, whether they’re listening to it 100% wasn’t clear based on the show, but last night’s effort was encouraging in that sense.
I really don’t want Boudreau to go from a fanboy standpoint. I really, really like the guy and really want this to work under him. If the team is tuning him out, it would be more a result of things going stale as they tend to do sometimes in sports no matter who runs the show. But he’s a good coach.
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I thought HBO didn’t bleep out swear words?
Or do they have two versions of the same show, one with bleeps and one with the full monty?
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They could have two versions, but I’m not sure with this.
While filming the Sopranos and Sex and the City all those years, they always shot two versions, knowing they’d be eventually shown on other channels.
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Did they bleep last night, or are the bleeps that show on the blogs just self-censoring on the part of the reporters?
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I did not hear a single bleep.
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Not sure where I read it, but the edited version is just supposed to be “bleep, bleep” over the actual swearing. Won’t leave too much to the imagination.
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by Backeez Got Back on Dec 16, 2010 9:33 AM EST up reply actions
There may be an edited version that runs in the afternoons or something along those lines
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by Sombrero Guy on Dec 16, 2010 9:39 AM EST up reply actions
Like when they show movies with profanities with other words/phrases dubbed over the original dialogue. That would be fun.
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by Rather Bengt on Dec 16, 2010 9:41 AM EST up reply actions
“What the banana was that, guys? Banana that team, and banana the Refs! If you banana want it, then you need to banana go out and banana get it! What the banana, guys!”
by DrinkingPartner on Dec 16, 2010 9:43 AM EST up reply actions
Bananas?
Come on this is about hockey:
"What the [Franceschetti] was that, guys? [Franceschetti] that team, and [Franceschetti] the Refs! If you [Franceschetti]ing want it, then you need to [Franceschetti]ing go out and [Franceschetti]ing get it! What the [Franceschetti], guys!"
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Dec 16, 2010 10:41 AM EST up reply actions
Banana is way funnier, especially if you picture BB yelling it over and over with his Looney Tunes animation playing in your mind.
by DrinkingPartner on Dec 16, 2010 12:59 PM EST up reply actions
As an impartial observer...
The one thing I thought was most telling about two teams; 3 times the upcoming Winter Classic and the HBO special were mentioned by members of the Capitals organization: Boudreau in a talk to the team before practice, Leonsis in his office, and by players during their skate on the Mall. Not once did the Penguins mention the WC or the Capitals. They only talked about their next game and preparing for that.
When looking at their records as of late, I got the feeling that the Caps forget they have a month of hockey between now and January 1st.
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I have a hard time believing that the Pens don’t talk about the WC at all. They may not have shown it on tv but I’m sure they talk about it.
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I’d agree. We don’t know what each of the players/coaches were asked, either, or what they showed and didn’t show.
And the fact is that this is framed (and perfectly fairly, if you ask me) as one team that’s won a Cup but is trying to get back, and one team that’s been a contender for a few years but can’t quite put it together in the postseason. The Pens have what we want, they don’t need to talk about it or about us because they’ve achieved it – the Caps are very aware that the Pens are what they want to be.
Also, when you’re winning the conversation isn’t going to stray to other teams. When you’re losing I’d bet there are attempts at motivating by saying “look what this team that you hate and are constantly compared to has achieved already – let’s go do that”.
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Let’s not forget that this is edited down and that plenty – from complete conversations to potentially leading questions – are left on the cutting room floor.
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Guaranteed the Pens players have talked about the WC. It’s the biggest thing to hit the Pittsburgh sports scene this winter, short of the Steelers going to the Super Bowl. Plus they’re hosting it and the players are probably being deluged with ticket requests. HBO just made a decision not to include it in this episode, but I bet you’ll see plenty of discussion about it in coming episodes.
Did it change anything for me? No. But here’s the Facebook status of a friend of mine (and I’ve seen similar, so maybe this is starting to be a casual fan consensus):
Prior to watching HBO’s 24/7, I would have said it was unlikely Bruce Boudreau would lose his job during this slump. Now I think he’s a goner. His motivational style rings hollow—profanity laced tirades that wouldn’t inspire the Bad News Bears.
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by Scott in Shaw on Dec 16, 2010 9:57 AM EST up reply actions
I think your friend needs to get out more. That kind of stuff goes on in every pro locker room and if coaches were fired because they swear too much, 90% of them would get canned each season.
I agree with BO4. The swearing is colorful. Didn’t bother me in the least.
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Colorful? Sure. But it was more like fingerpainting than a Picasso.
Again, I am NOT offended by the profanity in any way. I’m offended that Bruce isn’t better at using it in speeches.
You had me at no problem.
I don’t think he uses it to make a point. I think “fucking” is, for him, like “um” for many people. I’ve known a lot of people that just use the profanity as filler like that.
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Hopefully he’ll remind me of Gary at some point, with a championship…
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Dec 16, 2010 10:43 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Isn’t Bruce more of a Ralph Friedgen type?
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When my son was about 12, I leaned over his shoulder on the bench and whispered “Will you just go fucking hit someone?”
He couldn’t have giggled more, jumped over the boards on the next change and hit someone.
Just saying cursing can be effective for the right audience.
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My dad (often my coach) was frequently kicked out of games for cursing at the officials. Hilarious.
"Semin had two goals this year, Perreault comes in and he gets three."
Interesting you should say that. The one time I was ejected I was on the ice because one of my players was flat on his back crying. It was in Squirts, so no checking yet. I looked up at the ref, and said “They’ve been hitting my kids all game long. Aren’t you fucking going to do something.” Boom. Gone. Didn’t even make it back to the bench.
Cursing for players is an automatic ejection in youth hockey – or at least should be if called right. If after missing the net, a player bangs himself on the helmet and says “fuck, fuck, bury the fucking puck” and the ref hears it, he can get kicked out. Doesn’t matter to whom you say it, you just can’t say it.
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My dad’s line was usually quoting the rule book. “Page thirty fucking seven!”
"Semin had two goals this year, Perreault comes in and he gets three."
So he cursed and embarrassed the ref. Not good. Not good at all.
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Whatever. If the refs have their asses in their heads they deserve to be embarrassed.
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It’s going to be a while before we get tired of the asses in heads Bruceism, isn’t it…
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You can rest assured, though, that however long it takes us to get tired of it, it’ll be even longer before it stops getting used!
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So fucking true.
Well he probably has sensitive skin, no?
by redlineblue on Dec 16, 2010 10:50 AM EST up reply actions
Warren Zevon fan?
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by Rather Bengt on Dec 16, 2010 10:44 AM EST up reply actions
But but but....
Brads said hockey players don’t curse….
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Dec 16, 2010 10:44 AM EST up reply actions
Reinforced my opinions. I’m really unimpressed by his lockerroom diatribes. I’m never offended by swearing, but Boudreau’s was so uncreative that it’s just boring. None of it seemed inspiring.
You had me at no problem.
It’s blind fury. You’ll also notice that Laich’s “I’m tired of this fucking shit” wasn’t directed at Bruce (it seemed to me), it was directed at losing. I don’t think Bruce is in any trouble in terms of losing the team’s ear.
by DrinkingPartner on Dec 16, 2010 10:45 AM EST up reply actions
Did anyone else get the feeling (not just from this line specifically, although it’s what got me thinking) that Laich is mad that he’s not captain?
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There is little that is new that can be said in locker room speeches. Chris Cooley has chatted about them before and said that if a locker room speech/tirade is what a team needs, then there is more to worry about. I think we get caught up in the great Hollywood speeches…win one for the ’gipper, Hoosiers, etc., which are crafted by gifted screenwriters. If only it were that easy! Bruce and Dean are reacting to an immediate situation. Like DP said, it is anger and an outlet to release that anger/frustration.
by Ray of Sunshine on Dec 16, 2010 1:14 PM EST up reply actions
Wacky Numbers
11-1 – What the Rangers have outscored the Caps and Pens in their last 2 games.
10:12 – Amount of time for Tomas Fleischmann to score the same amount of goals last night (3) that the Caps have scored as a team in their last 4 games. Streaky SOB. Maybe we can get him in a trade.
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I hate that after it happened I saw all of these non-Caps fans saying things like “how’s that trade looking now, McPhee?” as if they know Flash and what happened with him here.
The trade’s still looking fucking awesome, thanks, because we don’t have a guy who, while talented, isn’t suited to any of the roles we have available to him. The fact that in one night he almost equaled his offensive output of 23 games w/ the Caps should be telling.
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I don’t know that I’d go as far as “fucking awesome,” but I’d pull the trigger on it again, even with this 20/20 hindsight.
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Yeah, just threw that in because I’m still all hopped up from 24/7 ;) Fucking right.
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No fucking worries. Completely fucking understandable.
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Sack/sock full of excitement.
"Semin had two goals this year, Perreault comes in and he gets three."
Just to clarify, I don’t have my ass up my head and think GMGM shouldn’t have made the move. As we said at the time here, we could expect Flash’s scoring to increase on the Avs as he would find a role there more beneficial to him. I still would want a defense-first D-man on this team more than Flash any day.
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by Rather Bengt on Dec 16, 2010 11:05 AM EST up reply actions
Right, if we didn’t have Ovechkin and Flash was getting fed by Backstrom all the time, he’d probably put up similar numbers than he is on Colorado.
He’ll slump for them soon enough, too.
"Semin had two goals this year, Perreault comes in and he gets three."
Or he won’t, and then the playoffs will come and he’ll disappear.
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Though I would change it to say “and then the all-star break will be over and he’ll disappear.”
"Semin had two goals this year, Perreault comes in and he gets three."
Good point – I was too generous to excuse his poor player with the higher-intensity games rather than simply running out of gas.
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Mile High Hockey's running Flash meme
I will say that this meme on Mile High Hockey that is posted every time Flash scores a goal does make me laugh though.

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by Rather Bengt on Dec 16, 2010 11:24 AM EST up reply actions
I really should send them this one

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Oh, I know. Was just speaking more to the people outside the team who look at a few good games for Flash and a few bad ones for Hannan and get all smug – usually the same people who think the trade was lopsided in Colorado’s favor. It was a good trade for both, it addressed needs for both and Hannan will be fine when he settles in.
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There is no doubt in my mind with Alex Semin in the lineup, we would of hit 3 more posts last night.
by SA-Town on Dec 16, 2010 8:35 AM EST reply actions 11 recs
Dammit...
..now I need to wipe off my monitor from the spit-take….
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Dec 16, 2010 10:45 AM EST up reply actions
I’m starting to come around on this team a bit. After last night’s loss I was DISTRAUGHT, but looking back they did an exemplary job shutting down a pretty decent team. How many tough saves did Varly have to make, one? (the OT goal). If they commit to clogging the neutral zone and blocking shots then look out.
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I agree…we got to get Nicky and Alex to loosen up a bit..they are so tight right now. I would like to see Alex play a dump and chase game for a bit, and grind it out. He just cannot carry the blue-line and d-man right now.
They’re tight because they’re unlucky. They’re both playing well and both had good games last night. If Alex doesn’t hit that post on the breakaway, I’m betting that line goes on a tear because they finally see that they can score, again.
by DrinkingPartner on Dec 16, 2010 9:00 AM EST up reply actions
How great was it seeing Backstrom control the play entering the zone most of the night?
"Semin had two goals this year, Perreault comes in and he gets three."
It was great, until they stopped doing it. Ovi was back to doing the one-on-one between the legs move, which just isn’t going to work against the guys he’s being matched up against. Chuck it in the corner and chase. Give the D man something else to think about other than just making sure to take the body not the puck.
Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...
by dcsportsfan1 on Dec 16, 2010 9:56 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah, he still tried that cut to the middle move at the top of the circles about five times last night and, shocker, it didn’t work.
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He should try skating into the zone backwards like Dustin Brown used to do.
"Semin had two goals this year, Perreault comes in and he gets three."
If they commit to clogging the neutral zone and blocking shots then look out.
Why not just fire Bruce and hire Hitchcock? That’s what last night was – no forecheck, no pressure, just falling back to clog the neutral zone.
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That plus line matching… Bruce showed a lot of changes from his usual system. It was weird to watch… But it also should have won the game, and would have if the Caps’ big guns had buried their wide-open chances.
You had me at no problem.
Yep. “A lot of changes from his usual system” sure does sound desperate, no?
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I don’t know if it’s desperation so much as an attempt to find a balance – he’s tried little tweaks to turn the offensive juggernaut into a defensively responsible offensive juggernaut and it hasn’t worked (yet). And they’re in the middle of a losing streak, sometimes you need to go completely opposite from what you’ve been doing just to snap out of it.
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they’re in the middle of a losing streak, sometimes you need to go completely opposite from what you’ve been doing just to snap out of it.
That’s not the definition of desperate?
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Well, it’s desperate in terms of wanting to snap the losing streak – but I’m assuming you were implying that Bruce was desperate to save his job (although the two may not be mutually exclusive).
I saw it more as the system-based equivalent of a player on a goal-scoring drought getting a cheapy off his ass or something.
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I saw it more as the system-based equivalent of a player on a goal-scoring drought changing from a defenseman to a forward.
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I think I heard a tinge of that in Bruce’s bleeping rants, too.
We all want to downplay this mid-season slide as something that all teams go through at some point, but it must be incredibly difficult for a coach who has not known this level of adversity before, where losing is paired with intense media scrutiny.
You had me at no problem.
On the other hand, what’s the definition of crazy? Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result. I think his despiration shows when he’s constantly moving guys up and down the lineup hoping for something different.
When you are missing key guys in your lineup like Semin, B. Gordon, Schultz and have callups like Beagle and A. Gordon, you need to play back a bit.
Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...
by dcsportsfan1 on Dec 16, 2010 10:36 AM EST up reply actions
I meant to say “Doing the same fucking thing over and fucking over and expecting a different fucking result…sack.”
Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...
by dcsportsfan1 on Dec 16, 2010 10:37 AM EST up reply actions
no forecheck, no pressure,
Disagree completely. They did fall back against the 10/15/9 line, but against the other lines, they generated a ton of chances on forecheck pressure.
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by Knee high to a duck on Dec 16, 2010 10:53 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I’d agree with that – from where I was sitting they seemed to be spending an inordinate amount of time in the Ducks’ zone. It was a bit less aggressive than what we’re used to perhaps but they still generated chances. Hiller doesn’t get #1 star of the night if they’re not.
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by Becca H on Dec 16, 2010 10:56 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
We were watching different games, then. There were moments – 85/22 in OT perhaps as the best example – but it was a decidely more conservative approach to the game overall than we’re used to seeing from a Boudreau-coached squad.
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I’ll buy that, but regardless of the conservatism against the Getzlaf line, they were far more effective forechecking than I’m used to seeing. I even wrote it down in my scoring chances notes — a lot of the zone-pressure chances the Caps had were direct results of forcing a turnover on the forecheck and then cycling in the corner, which is another welcome change.
There was still a transition game, but the proportion of chances coming from that was down, I’ll agree on that.
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by Knee high to a duck on Dec 16, 2010 11:02 AM EST up reply actions
Interesting. Who, in particular, did you think was an effective forechecker last night?
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19 and 22 were especially effective, but 8 got in on the act, as well. 85 had a couple of good backpressure swipes that were the result of Chimera or Fehr getting below the dots and making trouble.
Sometime soon, instead of tracking chances, I’m going to track breakouts and forechecks to see who’s really good at it and who isn’t.
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by Knee high to a duck on Dec 16, 2010 11:13 AM EST up reply actions
Would love that info.
And perhaps my perception was a bit clouded because I didn’t think F16 and Chimmer were particularly effective forecheckers/corner-workers last night, and I generally consider them to be among the team’s best in those roles.
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F16 was on the ice last night?
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by Carl Putnam on Dec 16, 2010 11:17 AM EST up reply actions
You don’t remember his stuffed semi-breakaway?
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by Knee high to a duck on Dec 16, 2010 11:20 AM EST up reply actions
Barely.
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by Carl Putnam on Dec 16, 2010 11:24 AM EST up reply actions
He was just there to inspire the tiresome Rink meme of “Hey guess who was drafted exactly right after me?”
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by Rather Bengt on Dec 16, 2010 11:27 AM EST up reply actions
At least he accomplished something.
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by Carl Putnam on Dec 16, 2010 11:35 AM EST up reply actions
I despise that meme; there are a dozen phenomenal players from that draft the Caps “missed”, not just Getzlaf – people need to get over it.
by Chris Burton on Dec 16, 2010 12:02 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Agree totally.
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by Rather Bengt on Dec 16, 2010 12:03 PM EST up reply actions
I mean, Ryan Kesler, Mike Richards, Corey Perry, Loui Eriksson, Patrice Bergeron, SHEA WEBER, and David Backes could’ve all been Caps, too, if GMGM KNEW WHAT HE WAS DOING THEN!!!1
by Chris Burton on Dec 16, 2010 12:05 PM EST up reply actions
Well, one of them could’ve been a Cap – poor grammar on my part.
by Chris Burton on Dec 16, 2010 12:06 PM EST up reply actions
I just wish New Jersey’d missed Parise.
by DrinkingPartner on Dec 16, 2010 12:03 PM EST up reply actions
Not in 2003, definitely not. We had our eyes on someone else…
by DrinkingPartner on Dec 16, 2010 12:50 PM EST up reply actions
How did he not go forehand on that? He must not have been aware of where Hiller was in the crease at all.
"Semin had two goals this year, Perreault comes in and he gets three."
The defenseman was trying to cover the forehand… Would’ve been difficult, but he COULD have gone there. Backhand was a terrible decision, because Hiller had it all the way.
You had me at no problem.
After reading that I think what this team needs is a tennis pro.
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by Carl Putnam on Dec 16, 2010 11:45 AM EST up reply actions
Ovie should be friends with Federer via his new deal with Gillette!
by DrinkingPartner on Dec 16, 2010 12:02 PM EST up reply actions
Plus, they both are repped by IMG. Hockey experience and knowledge might be trouble though. If they want a guy who could fit in hockey wise,they should hire a 50 year old guy who was born in a town called Ostrava,
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by Carl Putnam on Dec 16, 2010 12:10 PM EST up reply actions
On some plays, I felt like there was a lot of expecting the other guy to perform the role that they usually perform and neither of them ended up doing anything. When they did decide to get low and dirty, they both did a good job at it. It kind of felt like watching Laich and Knuble play together, each trying to do the same job.
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by Knee high to a duck on Dec 16, 2010 11:19 AM EST up reply actions
It’s funny. It’s almost like BB is now coaching to answer some of the CW this team’s critics have levied against them during his tenure.
But even if he’s getting a more disciplined team defensively they’ve scored a mere 1.29 goals over this seven game streak. That’s just not good enough and it can’t go unaddressed from a tactical standpoint IMO if this team is really going to get things turned around.
One repercussion from last night is that my 15 y.o. is going to be brutally disappointed by his current and any future coaches’ locker room speeches.
I earned a lot of “cool dad” points by grabbing him to watch BB’s first rant. He giggled quite a bit. Not like he learned any new words, but he has a new appreciation for the variety of ways “fuck” can be used.
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Tell him I said hi!
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For some reason, all the cursing last night has merged with the Bangity-bang song for me and I keep singing “Bleep Bleep Bleepity-Bleep, a-Bleep Bleep Bleepity-Bleep.”
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I was thinking this morning about how the show would sounds with bleeps. Pretty funny I imagine.
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Didn’t I read that they’re going to show an edited version during the daytime? Not much dialog to be broadcast from the Caps’ end then.
"It's always good to have vikings."
"Bleep Bleep Bleepity-Bleep, a-Bleep Bleep Bleepity-Bleep."
That’s all it would be.
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One more thought – Wouldn’t it be awesome if Liev Schreiber sprinkled in obscenities as well?
The Caps returned to practice fucking upset about their fucking losing streak. Then, Boudreau realized that some of his fucking superstars had the fucking flu.
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Liev Schreiber? Was he the narrator?
by DrinkingPartner on Dec 16, 2010 9:05 AM EST up reply actions
Yes. He’s awesome, I think.
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He does most of the VO for HBO documentaries I believe.
"If you don't shut the [hell] up, I'm going to kick you in the balls so hard your dentist is going to have to work around them at your next cleaning."
by Bald Pollack on Dec 16, 2010 9:06 AM EST up reply actions
Interesting, didn’t recognize his voice at first, but now I can see it.
by DrinkingPartner on Dec 16, 2010 9:09 AM EST up reply actions
All things considered,
it was far easier and more enjoyable to watch last night’s game that that absolute stinker previously. Watching that one felt like I was trying to expiate a major, unnamed sin through pain.
There's always more to learn about Hockey.
The AV Club's review of last night's 24/7 episode
http://www.avclub.com/articles/247-penguinscapitals-road-to-the-nhl-winter-classi,49015/
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That anything like the one I have in the post you’re commenting on?
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…but with added comments!
My bad. Apologies.
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by Rather Bengt on Dec 16, 2010 9:29 AM EST up reply actions
No worries – just givin’ you a hard time.
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“Different Effort, Same Result” ?
But they got a fucking point!
Well he probably has sensitive skin, no?
And in all seriousness, it’s something to build upon.
by DrinkingPartner on Dec 16, 2010 9:26 AM EST up reply actions
Positive guy: Next step is an OT/SO win, rite?
Negative guy: So was the Colorado game.
"Semin had two goals this year, Perreault comes in and he gets three."
Neutral guy: I see they played a game last night.
by DrinkingPartner on Dec 16, 2010 9:30 AM EST up reply actions
One of my favorite 24/7 scenes was when #15 was standing in the hallway wearing only shorts and BB was being told that #15 was sick. BB is yelling (from a distance) “what are your sympotoms?” Boyd looked like a little kid who had just found out his puppy had died. Such an uncomfortable moment!
He's a better skater than Nick, but he's big in the back[side]...BB
by Backeez Got Back on Dec 16, 2010 9:37 AM EST reply actions
From Puck Daddy
Watch this video of Carlo Colaiacovo from last night’s STL-DET game. Man I wish this was on HNIC’s attempt at 3-D last weekend
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QXgx9NhFwM
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People with HBO and comcast
Is the 24/7 thing available on On Demand?
There's always more to learn about Hockey.
I’m sure it is. the promos were available on demand.
Because now I can justify browsing and commenting during the work day with the argument that I am promoting my business.
by Sombrero Guy on Dec 16, 2010 10:10 AM EST up reply actions
I may have to invade my mother’s house and commandeer her tv.
There's always more to learn about Hockey.
I hope that’s not a euphemism.
Because now I can justify browsing and commenting during the work day with the argument that I am promoting my business.
by Sombrero Guy on Dec 16, 2010 11:05 AM EST up reply actions
Worst thing about 24/7?
The Penguins come off as really likeable. I was laughing and smiling during their segments. During the Caps segments? Not so much. This show is making it hard to hate on them, which is very disappointing.
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Just watch Matt Cooke’s hit on Savard, and that will bring you back down to earth.
by SA-Town on Dec 16, 2010 10:02 AM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Imagine the added fun if Bill Guerin was still on the team.
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by Rather Bengt on Dec 16, 2010 10:03 AM EST up reply actions
Bill Guerin mic’ed up. The Pens should bring him back as some deputy vice special assistant coach just for the series.
Nobody has ever been deemed unhealthy for eating too much broccoli. -- Andrew Gordon at RMNB
Not sure why you want to hate them personally. One thing that is evident about hockey players, for the most part they seem like the most down to earth, nicest atheletes. And you knew given the circumstances, the Pens were going to be smokin’ and jokin’ while the Caps were going to be sullen and stoic.
As noted above, HBO is going to edit these episodes to fit their narrative. Not that they aren’t being true to what is going on, but they are going to emphasize the Caps struggles and the Pens success.
Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...
by dcsportsfan1 on Dec 16, 2010 10:07 AM EST up reply actions
See the following. I’m sure some folks will find a way to hate on Tim Thomas for this, but I thought it was a nice moment.
Yeah, what a dick jamming his stick through the glass trying to spear that poor kid.
Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...
by dcsportsfan1 on Dec 16, 2010 10:59 AM EST up reply actions
I found the same thing. I would be laughing at something and then when it was clearly about to switch over to the Caps my smile would disappear…depressing, I was so looking forward to this show and seeing the goofy characters we have on this team coming through. Still an incredible show and I loved it regardless of how painful it was, but yeah. I wanted to hate the Pens and they came across extremely likable.
Whatevs, I hear next week features Sasha with a mouthful of marshmallow. So there’s that.
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But if the Caps watch this stuff, dont you think it will fire them up? I am trying to find positives, but this team has got to get pissed….and watching their doom and gloom broadcast to the nation will get it done.
I was thinking about whether they watched, and I have to imagine they did. It would most certainly be depressing to see themselves like that. Perhaps embarrassing.
So, yes, I think it should fire them up.
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WaPo asked a few of the Caps…Stecks and a few others were going to watch the 11 pm rebroadcast or DVR it. Of course, Brooks said he was not going to watch it. Sometimes, you just want to say, “Loosen up, Brooksie baby!”
by Ray of Sunshine on Dec 16, 2010 1:32 PM EST up reply actions
Think the players watched it?
I’m kinda hoping there’s a ‘[franchisetti]ing sack of barbeque sauce’ tag rolling through KCI right now, l don’t know why.
Well he probably has sensitive skin, no?
I believe they did, and I believe they are quoting the “assess our of their heads” comment as much as we are, but directly to the speaker, no less.
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That’s what I’d fucking do!
Well he probably has sensitive skin, no?
by redlineblue on Dec 16, 2010 11:01 AM EST up reply actions
speaking of Green
I didn’t know about the knee untill I got home from the game, but he looked pale and green and shitty (excuse my language), especially in the first and third. I’m speaking more of his face than his game. If we’re generically right about the shoulder, AND now we know about the knee, AND he felt 1/2 as flu-like as he looked from 109 last night, well:
It might be time to ease up on the #greenlifeneedstoughness bit. (even though he looked as though he might cry talking to the camera with that star trek gizmo on his leg.
Well he probably has sensitive skin, no?
Green’s toughness has never been in doubt in my mind. He’s played through a bunch of injuries over the years. Issues in the past were about self confidence.
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by Carl Putnam on Dec 16, 2010 11:16 AM EST up reply actions
I thought he looked sooo much better last night that the previous games he played in, so I can’t imagine how sick and injured he must have been.
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Seeking refuge from other places that are nearly 100 percent unreadable/unpostable these days. Not that I’m not very upset about the losses myself – I should say the way they’ve been losing – but I do have hope (it’s true, my signature says so). Anyway, I’ve always very much enjoyed reading here. You set yourselves apart from the others by at least showing each other some respect and you all seem able to discuss things together – and you make me laugh! :) So, thank you.
Anyway, enough of my blah, blah, blah. First, not too disappointed by last night’s loss (although I kind of had to check in with myself to make sure it wasn’t just because them loosing is becoming the way it goes). I liked what they were able to do defensively in particular; however, in the end, when D coverage mattered, there was failure. At least there was a sense of cohesion during this outing. So, we’ll see. I’m willing to be patient because I think that if they can land on a new system of more balanced play, stick to it and start to be successful then they may really have something worth it’s weight in silver.
Second, 24/7 was terrific! Not necessarily a fan of Boudreau’s personality from the beginning but I certainly recognize and definitely value what he’s managed to do with the team so far. I’m not in the fire Boudreau camp.
Quick back story: my husband and I rode in the elevator with him at Kettler, along with a woman and her young son. He was nice enough – probably still a little shell shocked with all of his life changes. This was his first Spring here and the Caps were playing the Sabres. Anyway, the woman and her child were Sabres fans and let Bruce know this as they were interacting. Not in a mean way but kind of in a dismissive way. It was weird and uncomfortable to say the least but you could feel Bruce’s energy become very defensive and he just seemed itching to say more (he started to roll his tongue around in his mouth and now I know that he probably wanted to unleash the F-bombs). Anyway, he held it together but something about it all just rubbed us the wrong way about him. It might have been better if he just laughed it off. Maybe it was unfair of us to begin judging him based on that, because afterall, it most likely was more uncomfortable for him. But still…
So, fastforward to 24/7 and the filthy mouth (sauce) and the largely unmotivating, slightly confusing, fuck-powered speeches (I wish that word could run cars and light cities) and it brought me back to that elevator. He does try though. But, the rest of it was really, really great. I was thinking that maybe it would actually do the Caps well to see this now. Give them a different perspective, from the outside in.
(As an additional aside, Evason’s liberal use of the word “sac” kind of made me feel odd. As in, I could picture him grabbing his and them all grabbing their individual ones throughout the entire diatribe. And then thinking, how will that help?? But then, I don’t have one, so I don’t know.)
Thanks for allowing the longer post. They won’t all be that way, I promise!
GO CAPS!!
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by Jute 9 on Dec 16, 2010 11:45 AM EST reply actions 6 recs
Welcome!
Previously incarnated as UF and UnleashFurry...
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by Christoph J on Dec 16, 2010 11:45 AM EST up reply actions
JDC/Eliotte — see!! It wasn’t “sock.”
Jute – I like you already. You even got the right anatomical spelling.
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Thanks! :) But mispelling “losing” kind of negates the “sac” win I think. Oh well.
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Didn’t notice that. The whole “losing” vs. “loosing” thing bugs me as well.
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by Carl Putnam on Dec 16, 2010 11:54 AM EST up reply actions
Welcome Jute
Re: Your reference to Evason’s rant — I started thinking of Alec Baldwin’s speech at the start of Glengarry Glen Ross
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by Rather Bengt on Dec 16, 2010 11:59 AM EST up reply actions
Thanks, Rather Bengt – hi! Do you meant the always durable A-B-C speech?
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Exactly…with the gold balls dangled after.
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by Rather Bengt on Dec 16, 2010 12:40 PM EST up reply actions
So, Sabres fans are “dismissive” of the Caps coach, and you’re (still) put off by the fact he apparently wanted to jack ‘em up a little? I would remind you that pretty much everyone in the organization is, or should be, much more Competitive than Diplomatic.
Something about your failure to return fire on Sabres fans dissing the Caps coach in a Kettler elevator “rubs me the wrong way”. (You did say you’re a Caps fan, right?)
Well he probably has sensitive skin, no?
by redlineblue on Dec 16, 2010 12:00 PM EST up reply actions
Hey, easy there…not everyone’s confrontational with complete strangers, let’s just keep it civil.
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Standing down. I wasn’t calling for a confrontation: It just strikes me likelier that a Caps fan might stick up for his/her team in that situation, than that a head coach would genially adapt to the role of straight man.
It’s not like teasing a Buffalo Sabres fan is the hardest row to hoe.
Well he probably has sensitive skin, no?
by redlineblue on Dec 16, 2010 12:21 PM EST up reply actions
I took “dismissive” as they referred to themselves as Sabres fans in kind of a throwaway comment, not making it central to the conversation. Maybe I’m reading it wrong.
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It’s like meeting a famous actor, knowing who they are, but telling them that you don’t like any of their movies. Kinda ignorant, and is it really necessary?
"Semin had two goals this year, Perreault comes in and he gets three."
Not really. If I ran into Mike Babcock, why couldn’t I mention that I’m a Caps fan? It’s not disrespectful.
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Would you be at his practice facility?
"Semin had two goals this year, Perreault comes in and he gets three."
If I had the opportunity? Sure. There’s a way to indicate your fandom in a respectful manner.
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As in putting an “S” not a “Z” on the end of the team nickname when talking to that team’s coach.
Wrong: When talking to Peter Laviolette: Sometimes I see Claude Giroux score a goal I just want to say I want to say “GO FLYERZ!!!!”
Right: When talking to Peter Laviolette: Sometimes when I see Claude Giroux score a goal I just want to say “Go Flyers!” and hey doesn’t Scott Hartnell look better with short hair?
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by Rather Bengt on Dec 16, 2010 12:19 PM EST up reply actions
now that Hartnell has short hair, I can no longer use the phrase “I’m have a Scott Hartnell hair day.”
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What, you wouldn’t tell Boudreau you’re a Kings fan at Kettler?
by Chris Burton on Dec 16, 2010 12:15 PM EST up reply actions
“Hey Peter Frampton, do you like toast too?”
"Now wait a minute. This is just purely a social call. You know, just two adults getting a stew on, man."
by The Ghost of Bebop on Dec 16, 2010 12:11 PM EST up reply actions
Hi there redlineblue – No offense intended. I come here in peace. But I really am suprised that you are so down on someone new. Kind of took me by surprise to be honest.
Anyway, I suppose it’s one of those things that happen where it’s hard to convey all of the nuanced details. Elevators are uncomfortable to begin with (in my opinion) and this was a mom with her kid to add to it. So, I don’t think Bruce wanted to “jack ’em up” but he also had to/has to know that he’s going to run into fans from other teams. He had this odd angry and defensive energy that has now become familiar, say when he’s describing running into a hot goalie or explaining why the multiple line changes are necessary. That’s all.
And, yes, when the tension was thick, I laughed like a nervous nerd/super hockey-Caps fan and said “I’m a Caps fan!…” Bruce just glanced our way. His attention was elsewhere. Then my husband elbowed me and we were all quiet until she and the kid got off. Then when Bruce went to exit at his floor, I said, “Good luck Coach!” and my husband said, “Go Caps!” He said a quiet thanks and moved along.
Once we also were in the elevator with Boyd Gordon and he stood with his back to us and stared at the control panel the whole time. I said “Good luck in Philly tonight!” as he got off and he made a grunting noise that sounded like “Thanks” and moved along. They lost that game unfortunately. When I was playing games at Kettler a little later, I saw him and he said, “Uh oh. Don’t wish me luck today!” And so, I felt shame – like a jinxy pants.
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This made me chuckle.
It’s nice to know that professional athletes find being in elevators with random strangers just as awkward as the rest of us.
Random side note on this: I just found out that Matt Leinart lives in my apartment building here in Houston and I’m desperate to have an awkward elevator exchange.
Is that what they call it these days?
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by Hang a Laingtern on Your Problems on Dec 16, 2010 1:02 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Sorry JinxyPants ; ]. I’ve flagged my own comment for tone.
I’m inclined to cut players/coaches a fair amount of slack ‘socially’. If it’s part of the job or ‘comes with the territory’, as fans are prone to say, it’s the part they’re least trained for and the part I’d gladly set aside for their success in other areas. I do a fair amount of work with well-known people; if you take away the obvious phonies and the ones who find “us” draining, you’re pretty much left with Morgan Freeman (who can’t skate backward).
Shouldn’t have barked, didnt mean to bite.
Well he probably has sensitive skin, no?
But Jute’s so much shorter to type…
Hi, WordsOnIce!
And, to finalize the Bruce/elevator debaucle, I’m not one to glom and gush all over a more well-known person. They need/deserve their space. I think that the conversation began betwwen the woman and Bruce and somewhere along the way, she indicated that she thought the Sabres were using Kettler to practice. Not even sure that she knew who she was talking to at that point. I/we weren’t paying too much attention because we try not to be nosy. Also, he’s just a person, you know? But when she said that, it drew our attentions. I was born in Buffalo and spent half of my growing up time there when at school (but my family is in and from WV) and my husband and I met there. So, I initially looked at her more like, hmm. do I know her? And then it sunk in that there was weird energy. Then, Bruce asked the little boy what hockey team he liked and he yelled “SABRES!” All downhill from there.
This story is not to illustrate that Bruce is a bad man or to indicate that I think he’s one. I just got a distasteful vibe. It was just a moment in time. But, he doesn’t have to be my friend for crying out loud, he just needs to coach this team! I love these Caps, we all love them and he does too. That’s apparent and all that matters.
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Hey Buzzsaw Man - Hootenanny!
— Lost in all this losing at the moment is a sliver of hope; the Caps have allowed three or fewer goals in five of the seven losses. Four of the losses have been by one goal. Only the loss to the Rangers was a blowout. If this is the price the Caps have to play to learn how to play defense, it will have been worth it four months from now.
Agree/disagree: Caps have been playing good defense for most of this losing skid.
I’ve only caught a couple of games, so I don’t think I can make a good case either way, but I’m leaning “good on the whole, could be better”.
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good, with occasional fuck-ups. But that’s what a transition in style will often look like. I’d be more worried if they were getting clean-beat more often.
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by Gould Old Days on Dec 16, 2010 12:59 PM EST up reply actions
Agree, Gould Old Days, about the transitional look of it. To my eyes, their defensive game has been confusing at best.
And, while there has been little to no O for a couple of these losses, it was hard for me to not to start questioning Varly. He seems to be less mobile during parts of some games lately. A bad groin is a tricky groin is all I’m saying.
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The Penguins may be playing better hockey, but don’t try to sit there and tell me that their charter jet is nicer than ours. How underwhelming.
being Penguins, they’re lucky to fly at all.
Well he probably has sensitive skin, no?
by redlineblue on Dec 16, 2010 1:06 PM EST up reply actions 7 recs
They’ve announced the Caps’ alumni team, and yeah, we’ll probably get rolled by the Penguins.
Couple of new names in there: Craig Laughlin (hooray!) and, surprisingly, Scott Walker. I definitely wasn’t expecting that.
I hope this is televised, but it probably won’t be.
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Even if it is (I’d guess NHLN), I’d still likely miss it by travelling. Although if it’s at 9 am, I could watch it and then leave for Pittsburgh. I know last year there was a ton of day before stuff televised, like part of the practices. And why is the Pens’ open to the public (with an alumni game ticket), but the Caps practice closed?
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I’m sure it’ll be re-played on NHLN 20 times.
Visiting team practice is usually closed to the public, maybe that’s all it is?
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They’re also having a showdown between a Little Caps and a Little Pens team before the actual WC. Can’t remember which age group specifically, but it’s one of the middle-school-ish aged teams.
Less drama, more hockey
by SeattleCapsFan on Dec 16, 2010 1:46 PM EST up reply actions
Aww, Scotty. That makes me smile.
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Please to be explain, Mr. ESPN
I get Richards, and I suppose if Vokoun could be gotten cheap I’d have to consider it, but what the fuck are we supposed to do with Dwayne Fucking Roloson?
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by bilspacecadet on Dec 16, 2010 4:50 PM EST up reply actions
Some words from Mike Bossy
Eighteen years ago 80s sniper was asked about how he approached shooting and scoring. After watching the Caps and their scoring issues these days, I think what he said could be beneficial:
Sconing is done instinctively. The shot itself, if it’s thought about, is not the same as if it’s done instictively. You can’t teach when to shoot, but you can teach how to get into position to score.
They always talked about my quick release. That was more a matter of survival than anything else. But one of the things I hate to do was waste a shot. I’m probably the guy who wasted fewer shots than anyone who ever played the game.
Aiming for me was a waste of time. For me, the object was to hit the net.
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Let’s bring Mike Bossy in for a speech to the guys. That should solve it all. then we’ll bring in sports psychologists, witch doctors and the guy from Major League who will talk about Jobu. HBO will capture it all. It’ll be a circus!
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