Recap: Avs 3, Caps 2
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For the first time since Bruce Boudreau took over for Glen Hanlon behind the bench more than three years ago, the Washington Capitals have lost five consecutive games after being bested by the Colorado Avalanche 3-2 on Saturday night. Perhaps more unsettling, the Caps dropped all four games on a homestand that had at one point looked like a golden opportunity to rack up the points and stretch out its Southeast Division lead. The Caps have now lost four games in regulation at Verizon Center this season after just five such occurrences in 2009-10. Maybe getting back out on the road is what will cure what currently ails the defending Presidents' Trophy winners.
Ten more notes on the game:
- Mike Vogel pointed a finger at the team's five-on-five play as a primary reason for the recent slide, but the Caps' less-than-impressive play in that area extends beyond the past handful of games - the Caps had the League's best ratio of goals-for to goals-against at five-aside last year, but are barely above even this season. Tonight the Caps were outscored two-to-one at five-on-five, but nearly doubled up the Avs in even-strength shots on goal (37 to 20). It's too simplistic to pin these struggles on any one player, but if you had to pick a guy whose under-performance most impacts the team in this area, it'd probably be Mike Green (who, of course, didn't play tonight).
- There are any number of words that could fairly be used to describe Alexander Semin's second-period cross-check to John-Michael Liles' melon, but we'll go with "selfish." For a player on a team having trouble scoring to react to a not atypical bit of contact with a stick foul like that is simply unacceptable and might very well earn Semin a game off - either League- or Boudreau-imposed - to think about it. Oh, and Semin has no goals in his last six games. Hope you sold high, poolies.
- When a team is without its top defensive pair and facing the League's most potent offense (seriously), the margin for error in the defensive zone is awfully slim, so poor coverage (Tom Poti) and soft goals (Michal Neuvirth), are tough to overcome.
- One of tonight's big story lines was Tomas Fleischmann and Scott Hannan facing their former teams less than two weeks after they were traded for one another. And while neither did much (they were a combined minus-three), former Av Matt Hendricks stole the whole "facing his former team" story line with his big third-period power-play goal, five hits and four shots on goal. He might have been the best player in red.
- Matt Bradley's second period fight with Cody McLeod gives them more fighting majors on the season (21) than they had all of last season... and that's with D.J. King chucking knuckles just three times.
- Flu-ridden Nicklas Backstrom went 4-for-19 in the face-off circle tonight... and led all forwards in ice time with just over 25 minutes and Corsi. He gets a big-time "A" for effort.
- Congrats to Mike Knuble on his 250th goal - quite an accomplishment for a guy who only had 50 on his 30th birthday.
- If it's any indication of how the losing streak is effecting him, Alex Ovechkin had a team-high five hits and attempted ten shots (three of which ended up on net). But he's now played 31 games on the season and has a power-play goal in just one of them. That's a mind-boggling number (as is the fact that the Caps had just three shots on goal in 5:30 of power-play time tonight).
- With Green and Jeff Schultz out of the lineup, the duo of John Carlson and Karl Alzner were leaned upon and responded, playing big minutes (Carlson led all skaters with 26:01) and quite well at that. There's one of your silver linings.
- Avs' assistant coach Steve Konowalchuk looks no different than he did a dozen years ago. What a hockey player that guy was.
So there's some good news and some bad news following this one. The good news? The Caps get to get right back out there tomorrow night for yet another chance to right the ship. The bad news? The Caps have to get right back out there tomorrow night for yet another chance to right the ship. It's sure to be an interesting 24 hours.
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You mean Knub’s 30th, right?
John Carlson - Glory follows him.
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Bday, that is.
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Can’t be worse than (presumably) the WaPo beat writer mispronouncing the last name of tonight’s goalie. Whomever still said New-virth should get punched in the ovaries.
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by Bald Pollack on Dec 11, 2010 10:01 PM EST up reply actions
Hendricks was the Palm player of the game. Maybe he’ll get the hard hat as well.
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I think hard hats are for wins, no?
There's no 'i' in "team". But there's a 'nap' in "champion".
by redlineblue on Dec 11, 2010 10:25 PM EST up reply actions
Y’know, upon re-reading my Recap, I didn’t give the Caps enough credit for playing a pretty good game, probably their best since St. Louis.
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That depends on how much caution you want with your optimism. There’s some tweaks you could do if you’re looking for more than that.
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by Bald Pollack on Dec 11, 2010 10:16 PM EST up reply actions
Eh, I’m fine. Moved on from the loss to the third Indiana Jones flick on USA (hellalame, but I can’t turn it off).
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3rd is better than second, IMO.
"And then they’ll look at guys in my situation, that could play three good games in a row and have one bad shift, and they’ll say, ‘Well, that’s why he’s been in the minor leagues his whole career.'" --Matt Hendricks
Definitely. 1, 3, 2… and I never saw 4.
Star Wars is 2, 1, 3… then the others… FWIW.
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NEVER EVER see 4.
"And then they’ll look at guys in my situation, that could play three good games in a row and have one bad shift, and they’ll say, ‘Well, that’s why he’s been in the minor leagues his whole career.'" --Matt Hendricks
Proud to say that I saw #1 once and haven’t seen any of the others.
I saw #1 at the old duplex theatre at Georgetown Square, corner of Democracy and Old Georgetown.
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Wow, you’re old. ;)
"And then they’ll look at guys in my situation, that could play three good games in a row and have one bad shift, and they’ll say, ‘Well, that’s why he’s been in the minor leagues his whole career.'" --Matt Hendricks
I’m wrong. I just looked at the dates of the movies. It had to be #2. May 1980 would be end of 8th grade for me. Then I stand corrected that I haven’t seen any since #2.
Bizarrely, I remember the name of the girl that I went with. Weird. Haven’t thought of her in years, although I did go to her wedding (to someone else).
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Your still old, just not as old. :)
"And then they’ll look at guys in my situation, that could play three good games in a row and have one bad shift, and they’ll say, ‘Well, that’s why he’s been in the minor leagues his whole career.'" --Matt Hendricks
I’ll take what I can get.
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I got it from the Library and still feel I overspent.
"This guy is an android. He's not human....Oh my goodness."
Only saw the third. Rotten luck is all that prevented them from tying it up.
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The Avs fought hard too. I mean, it was good hockey at the end of the game. Just a wrong result.
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by Whiter Mage on Dec 11, 2010 10:15 PM EST up reply actions
Agreed. Hard not to feel a bit better after this one than Thursday night’s debacle.
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This is the one positive I take from this game. The effort was there, but in the end Anderson outplayed Neuvirth. Anderson made 40 of 42 saves. The Caps can hold their head up high, build on tonight, and perhaps they will end their slide tomorrow against the Rangers.
by Ovietracker on Dec 11, 2010 11:14 PM EST up reply actions
in the endAndersonthe Avs outplayedNeuvirththe Caps
FTFY
The Caps did play better than they had been the last few games, which was encouraging to see. But they still got out hustled by a less-skilled but more disciplined hockey team. Even in the last 7 or so minutes, with the sudden “Holy shit we need to score” attitude they showed, the Avs stepped up and met the Caps’ new intensity with their own. The Avs very obviously wanted to win this game, and their energy is even more impressive considering they played a close game in Carolina the night before.
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by SeattleCapsFan on Dec 12, 2010 12:30 PM EST up reply actions
For all of the bitching some do that refs have it out for us, I’d like to point out that there were some REALLY QUICK whistles near the end of the game when Anderson was trying to move the puck. Actually, there were lots of quick whistles all night, and the one at the end of the game shouldn’t have happened. We directly got an extra second because of a referees decision that, while wrong, was at least consistent.
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Not to mention all the penalty calls Caps got in the beginning of the FLA game.
"And then they’ll look at guys in my situation, that could play three good games in a row and have one bad shift, and they’ll say, ‘Well, that’s why he’s been in the minor leagues his whole career.'" --Matt Hendricks
It's clearly
a psychological experiment by the league. See how the top team reacts being buried in penalty differential and goal blow-offs for a few months and then see if they still remember how to score.
Suspend Colin Campbell!
I feel like the GDT could use a recap of its own.
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Oh yeah? Sorry to miss it – I had to catch up on DVR. Good job by bigeugene, btw, hooking up the 2nd and 3rd period OTs.
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Recap – Tits, trolls, and rock and roll. Also, we talked about hockey.
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by Whiter Mage on Dec 11, 2010 10:32 PM EST up reply actions
Good trolls or bad trolls?
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Boutros met her mistress. You can judge yourself who was holding the crop by the end.
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“Her Mistress.” Hmmm. Sounds intriguiging.
When I get over Angelina, I’ll devote some mind share to it.
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I may have to change the site’s slogan – “Japers’ Rink – Tits, trolls, and rock and roll”
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by J.P. on Dec 11, 2010 10:39 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
That sounds like the OT Thread Monday through Friday.
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by STLSpidey on Dec 11, 2010 10:40 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I bailed on the game after the first period to take up Mrs. Spidey on her offer of a movie out. I learned two things.
First, wait for The Tourist to come out on DVD. I spent the entire movie watching the scenery of Venice and the scenery of Angelina Jolie. She is just unreal in this movie. Almost over the top elegant. Plot, unfortunately, is average, ending is implausible, and Johnny Depp’s haircut was bad, even by Great Clips standards.
Second, I’m really immune now to these losses. I checked my phone when the movie was over and went “huh” and that was it. I want to turn this around and just get into the playoffs. Screw the President’s Trophy, winning at the WC, even finishing first in the SE. We, above all fans, know that anything can happen in the playoffs.
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Totally unrelated but I thought of you tonight as I downed a St. Louis Brewing Co. Schlafly Christmas Ale.
"And then they’ll look at guys in my situation, that could play three good games in a row and have one bad shift, and they’ll say, ‘Well, that’s why he’s been in the minor leagues his whole career.'" --Matt Hendricks
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btw, any idea what the “Schlafly” is in reference to?
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I believe it’s the family name, nothing more.
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Hard to criticize the effort tonight. They were around the net more tonight than any other game this season, but when you’re in a bad way…
The struggles on the PP (Hendricks goal aside) are still baffling.
it looked like a bunch of kids who were told to go to the net though. They went to the net and started pushing each other around rather than look for the puck. The third period saw probably 4 opportunities to net the puck when there was a melee in front of the net, but no one there was focused enough to finish it.
Suspend Colin Campbell!
The Ovie stat is indeed mind-boggling JP, and it makes me thing there’s something more going on than just defenses adjusting to him on the rush. PP numbers shouldn’t really be affected by that.
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I agree Kolzilla. Something more is going on with Ovie than just the opposition teams’ defenses adjusting to him on the rush. This would have no effect on his PP numbers.
by Ovietracker on Dec 11, 2010 11:19 PM EST up reply actions
Unless they are also taking cues from the MON PK that shut us down.
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Then perhaps what’s going on with Ovie is he still hasn’t gotten over the Montreal debacle.
by Ovietracker on Dec 11, 2010 11:22 PM EST up reply actions
Unbelievably, Ovi is still #3 in the league in points
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Dec 11, 2010 11:24 PM EST up reply actions
And people on this board want to sit him to give him a lesson. Um . . . ok.
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I want him to sit because
there’s something more going on than just defenses adjusting to him on the rush. PP numbers shouldn’t really be affected by that.
and
Something more is going on with Ovie than just the opposition teams’ defenses adjusting to him on the rush. This would have no effect on his PP numbers.
and I’d like to see him get healthy.
With that said, he looked pretty decent to me tonight.
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Dec 11, 2010 11:33 PM EST up reply actions
If he’s hurt, sit him to let him heal.
There’s really no other reason I can think of.
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he looked violent, but his skates weren’t there and his puck handling wasn’t there, I saw him lose the puck (not necessarily a turn over) numerous times. it was like he wasn’t with it. Other games last season where it’s him vs a defender, he’d win. This game he never had full control of the puck before taking off. then he gets full control and he loses it.
Suspend Colin Campbell!
Don’t think anyone will call for Ovi to teach him a lesson tomorrow.
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And what exactly was their strategy to stop Ovie on the PK? Let Halak make stops on screaming slapshots aimed for the corners from 10 feet away?
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They did a pretty good job of keeping him so far from the net that he wasn’t a real threat to beat Halak cleanly and if there was any traffic it was MON guys blocking the shot. I don’t remember too many screaming slapshot opportunities from ten feet away for AO.
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So I missed the whole game, but I’m getting the general feeling that the effort wasn’t too bad tonight? Also how was Neuvy?
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Effort was good (42 shots on goal, lots of hard work). Other than the first goal, Neuvy was pretty solid in net. The first one was a little soft, but the Caps let him have a shot he shouldn’t have had….
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Dec 11, 2010 11:49 PM EST up reply actions
My recap is one of emotions. I was pissed after the Leafs and depressed after the Panthers. Tonight’s however was a damn good game—a full sixty minute effort despite the few mistakes. Ovi looks good, almost his old self, mostly because I think he was tying to keep it simple. His assist came about because he waited for Knubes to catch up before taking his shot. And he waited for his line mates with his rush several more times. Moreover I liked how he went to the net frequently. Indeed the Caps were busy around the net, especially in the third. Without Semin’s penalty, which I couldn’t see clearly from where we were sitting, the guys could have won the game. Another night one of those scrums around the net will result in a goal.
Despite the quick whistles stopping the play in the third, I was overall okay with the refs. I prefer games that aren’t bogged down with ticky-tacky calls so that the game has flow. Boy are the Avs fast, but I thought our guys were good with the speed too. They should definitely take lessons from Hannan—he knew how to stay close to those speedy guys—must be that famous gap control of his. The PPs were uneven—only one was excellent—and despite getting scored on I thought the PK looked good. It’s a lot harder killing off 5 minutes with their aggressive PK than the passive one from last season.
All in all I am going to sleep satisfied that the Caps are on the right track with their play and I hope that they feel good about their effort tonight. More games like this tonight—without the stupid Semin penalty of course and with the return of players like Green—and the Caps will start to win again. This game shows them on the right track. I am pleased. I hope they bring this same effort to the Rags.
Alright, confess-how many goals are you going to make this year?
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Well can you at least guarantee fifty?
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Totally agree with your assessment about the team’s effort tonight. They were crowding the crease a lot, plus offensive cycling. And not just the bottom lines this time. There was a shift in the third period when 8-19-22 kept the puck in for the entire shift. After Semin was tossed, Fehr moved up to the second line and got some great feeds from MP for that rocket of a shot of his (if only he was more accurate). It definitely felt like the end of this losing streak is just around the corner, and I left VC with a positive attitude – until I walked out and saw it was raining (bad night to choose to drive in and park 3 blocks away).
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a full sixty minute effort
Except for that pesky first 25-30 minutes where they were thoroughly outworked and outhustled.
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I was going on the vibe of the game. They had effort and energy, not the dismal flatness of the last two games.
Wouldn’t you say that there is a difference between effort and effectiveness? To me the effort was there, trying to new things, getting to the crease more, but they still were not entirely effective at it. I just wanted them to build on the effort—not lay down and die the way they did against the Rangers.
Alright, confess-how many goals are you going to make this year?
"I'm not going to tell!"
Well can you at least guarantee fifty?
"No way. I have a different objective. To win."
by capsyoungguns on Dec 13, 2010 10:40 PM EST up reply actions
I was out at a dinner party thing and just watched the Semin play. 5 mins, fine, but come on, you gotta call what led up to it. The reaction always gets called though, so what are you gonna do. But that was two solid cross checks right before Semin’s reaction. Unfortunate that Semin high, but this is what happens when you force the players to police the game.
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Observations from Section 421
Sigh….
1) First and foremost, what the hell was Semin thinking when he decided to cross check Liles to the head. Ok, they guy took away a scoring chance… that’s his job. Just a stupid, stupid, stupid… (half hour later)… stupid penalty. Completely unnecessary, completely pointless, and with the team already short handed due to injury and illness, just…well, you know. If the league doesn’t suspend him (the DGB flowchart says 1-5 games) then George and Bruce should scratch him. The early success of the season notwithstanding, now I am convinced that it’s probably in the Caps best interest to let Semin go after this season. There are teams with cap room Sasha.. hope you like Columbus, Edmonton or Long Island…
2) Get well soon Greenie… if I ever see Brian Fahey in a Caps uniform again, it’ll be too soon. The guy isn’t an NHL player. Don’t the Caps have anyone in Hershey that might fit in? I know they can’t bring up Souray since he’s Edmonton property, but there’s gotta be someone else other than Fahey…
3) Great efforts by the effort guys tonight: Gordon was making plays and working hard, winning battles on the boards. A highlight reel goal for Hendricks. Bradley taking some lumps to get guys going.
4) Some nifty moves by Ovechkin to get the puck to Knuble for the 250th goal… very sweet indeed, and some nice stickhandling in the air for that goal. Might be the Verizon goal of the week come Monday.
5) Oh look, the Penguins won again….
6) The kid behind me was asking his dad why there are two referees… after watching Ryan O’Byrne take the net off the post deliberately when the Caps were pressing the attack and getting away with it, I was asking the same question.
7) The lengthy replay of what might have been a goal probably got the right result, although if they had ruled it a goal, then they probably would have counted it. There wasn’t a lot to overturn the ruling one way or the other.
Well, now it’s off to New York, with or without Semin…..
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RMNB got a tweet from Chesnokov that a suspension will probably not happen. However, I suspect Boudreau will scratch him anyhow.
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Assuming no suspension, why do you sit him? The guy has a lethal shot and penalty kills very well. He has always taken a lot of stupid penalties, offensive zone and otherwise. Sitting him is going to get him to stop?
I know I’m a broken record, but I just don’t think you sit your best players unless they are hurt.
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Not even as a “Hey, asshole, don’t fucking do that again”?
I’m paraphrasing. Roughly.
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by Hang a Laingtern on Your Problems on Dec 11, 2010 11:59 PM EST up reply actions
Nope. I think you find a very large guy named Boris or Guido and shove Semin in a locker.
Maybe you put a “crosscheck me” sign on the back of his jersey.
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Given that he’s not fully healthy at the moment anyway — for starters since he has the flu (and he was already having physical problems as well).
And that he’s hasn’t produced lately, either.
And getting a major penalty is just about beyond the pale. I can live with the minor penalties but not the majors ones. (In fact, last year when Ovi kept getting major penalties, I felt that I could live with Semin’s minor penalties more than Ovi’s major ones.)
Even before the game, I felt like it was time to bench one of our top (two) line guys, if they were the least bit unhealthy. I’m not normally a fan of benching our top players unless they’re in a really bad slump and are unhealthy.
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There is nothing barring an injury or a suspension that can convince to bench any of the members of our top two lines. Boudreau may, in the end, disagree, but I don’t believe it accomplishes anything other than giving you less of a chance to win.
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Talk at you later. Just a bad play or bad penalty or slump would not be enough for Boudreau to bench a top player. But maybe iffy health and those conditions might. And, in the case of Semin, his health is iffy at the moment.
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So who’s tweet do you believe:
A.
@dchesnokov: Semin won’t be suspended I heard
or B.
@TSNBobMcKenzie: I would think Semin’s crosscheck to back of Liles’ head is worth a game or two. That’s my guess anyway.
And FWIW, I agree with Spidey. He’s our top scorer and one of our best PK’ers. Sitting him (unless told to by the league) makes no sense for a team struggling to find the net.
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Which source is more reliable, that is the question? I would select A, given that Semin is essentially a first offender in the major penalty department (outside of that infamous fight).
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Which source is more reliable, that is the question?
McKenzie every day and twice on Sunday in terms of reliability. On the other hand, it sounds like Chesnokov is citing someone, whereas McKenzie is just hypothesizing.
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by D'ohboy on Dec 12, 2010 1:52 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
However, I suspect Boudreau will scratch him anyhow.
He’s lost other games before for his play and hasn’t sat, probably won’t happen now.
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by Bald Pollack on Dec 12, 2010 8:09 AM EST up reply actions
Then again, I don’t remember him ever getting a costly MAJOR penalty and that being coupled with a slump, along with not being 100% healthy at the same time. It’s the combination of all those conditions to suspecting a possible scratch.
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He slumped when he’s had multiple minors in a game, he’s slumped when he’s committed a minor that’s led to a GWG. Has he been sat? No. Laich is slumping with the flu, do you sit him too? Harden up and chew some Vitamin C pills and tough it out through tonight since you’ll likely have a day off before Wednesday.
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by Bald Pollack on Dec 12, 2010 9:22 AM EST up reply actions
So who’ll be playing 2nd line RW tomorrow? Will it be Bradley or Hendricks? Don’t believe it will be Fehr since he was tried there tonight and couldn’t do it.
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2nd will probably be Semin-MP-Laich, unless BB decides to sit Semin.
There is no problem a hammer cannot either fix or make irrelevant.
I’m assuming that BB will sit Semin given that his health isn’t all that great at the moment to begin with and a bad penalty probably tipped the balance.
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Semin won’t sit unless the league sits him. If BB actually does that, stock up on canned goods.
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by Bald Pollack on Dec 12, 2010 8:11 AM EST up reply actions
The officiating in tonight’s game was, once again, horrible. Time after time, Caps players were taken down with no penalty call and or hit and crosschecked after the play, and the refs simply let it go. At some point, they need to take control of the game and call penalties. If they had done so, Semin’s crosscheck (how was that a major, btw?) would probably not have happened. Semin is not the type of player to do that, but players can only take so much before they will do something back.
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I’m with you on the noncalls, but I don’t think Semin’s cross check to the head should be minimized. That was an ugly penalty.
I get that everyone has a limit, and that Semin had taken a whole lot of abuse to that point, with no calls from the officials. But that play is still inexcusable and has no place in hockey.
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by Gould Old Days on Dec 12, 2010 12:35 AM EST up reply actions
I agree, the major was warranted. But Semin was hauled down 50 seconds earlier on that shift pretty badly, then crosschecked twice (the second of which was really hard and out of the realm of reasonable) just before hand. I’m not sure I blame him for taking it. I don’t think he was going for the head though, I think that was just misfortune. But sometimes when you play like a dick, you get hit in the head, even if by accident.
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Idiotic play, no doubt. But a major? If there’s a major being called for a cross-check, it should be for nothing less than an injury. All Semin did was push Liles down – although it was done in possibly the single worst way possible.
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Did you watch live in the VC or on TV? It looked like a pretty clear major to me and I’d be surprised if he plays tomorrow. The CSN broadcast also mentioned that Liles was bleeding so it had to be a major even if the sheer viciousness of it didn’t warrant the 5 alone.
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Why would it have to be a major if there was blood? Rulebook says nothing about that – and isn’t blood only a double minor anyways?
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Blood is a double minor for high stick but I think for other head shots blood is an automatic major. I think that’s why AO had to get kicked out when they deemed that he boarded Kaleta.
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I had forgotten about the boarding, but the rule for that is toally different from cross-checking. It also has nothing to do with blood. It says “When a major penalty is imposed under this rule for a foul resulting in an injury to the face or head of an opponent, a game misconduct shall be imposed”. Ovie got a major/misconduct because he hit Kaleta’s head into the boards, not because there was blood. And cross-checking simply says “A major penalty, at the discretion of the Referee based on the severity of the contact, shall be imposed on a player who "cross checks" an opponent”. Calling it a major was 100% on the ref, and I think it was a terrible call. A minor would have been appropriate.
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Especially after the play was over.
This wasn’t some defenseman trying to clear a forward out of the crease and screwing up. This was a forward retaliating against a defenseman in the offensive zone.
It were ugly.
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by Gould Old Days on Dec 12, 2010 10:11 AM EST up reply actions
I guess the official thought it was a really bad cross check (and some of the folks in front of us agreed with the officials that it was a really bad cross check.)
But, you’re right, players can only take so much before they retaliate.
One person I talked to tonight agreed with you on the officiating.
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As both an Avs and Caps fan (and therefore a pretty neutral observer), the officiating in the game was fine.
The only really questionable call was the non-call on O’Byrne for knocking the net off, and he got pushed a bit from behind just prior and looked to be steadying himself.
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My predictions/suggestions for tomorrow’s lineup:
1st line: Ovi/Backstrom/Knuble
2nd line: Laich/Perreault/Hendricks
3rd line: Chimmer/Marjo/Fehr
4th line: Bradley/Stecks/Gordon
(or should we put King in instead of Stecks or Gordon since NY could dress Bougaard/)
Defense
Green/Hannan (assume Green is back since this is 24 hour thing)
Alzner/Carlson
Poti/Erskine
Goal: Varly
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Hendricks isn’t a second liner. You need a shooter, like Semin or Fehr. But if it can’t be them, why not bring up Andrew Gordon? He’s tied for first in the AHL in goals, many of them coming off of feeds from MP.
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I support this idea
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by Gould Old Days on Dec 12, 2010 10:12 AM EST up reply actions
Sounds like a winner! Winner, winner, chicken dinner!
And now the next thread here reports that AG was on a plane to NY City and talked about someone throwing up on the flight. Note: the Bears are in Charlotte. So maybe it’s a happening.
Our new second line: Laich/Perreault/A. Gordon. At least the center and the RW have proven chemistry!
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If A. Gordon does play tonight, he’ll be 3rd/4th line. If Semin is out (which I still think is incredibly unlikely) then Fehr will probably get 2nd line time, like he did last night.
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Normally, that would be the case. Except these are “special” times.
I recall one time after a bad penalty, Semin was banished to the third line and stayed there for the following game as well so it would not surprise me if that were the case tonight. (And that happened under Boudreau’s reign.) Fehr was the first guy on the 2nd line but did poorly last night so he was replaced with Hendricks. But Hendricks is a 3rd/4th liner.
Hence, my theory of Gordon on Line #2. And, given the fact, he has chemistry with our current 2nd center.
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well… 2 games left for the Caps to save me from wearing a goddamn Sidney Crosby jersey on 12/23.
I am a hockey fan first, and a Caps fan second.
At least it’s better than what someone had bet, just last week, in that he would wear a Crosby jersey until SC makes the Hall of Fame if Ovi hadn’t scored in the game where he broke his slump. At least his sacrifice is only one game.
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Mixed Emotions
As a fan of both teams, I had some mixed emotions last night. If the Caps could take their last period and a half from last night and marry it up with their first period and a half from the Panthers game, they might actually win one. As it was, they came out gang-busters against FLA and trailed off once they got frustrated by Vokoun. Last night, they somnambulated through the first 25-30 minutes – seriously, I don’t think the Caps won a single puck battle or 50-50 race in the entire first period and a half – before turning it on toward the end, Unfortunately, it was too little, too late.
The one positive to take away from last night’s game is that they created much more traffic in front of Anderson. There were several times where it looked as though the Caps were going to slam a rebound in, only to have it bounce harmlessly over someone’s stick. Those bounces will eventually start going the Caps’ way.
As an Avs fan, that looked like a team desperate for points, but on the wrong end of a long road trip and back-to-back games. They came out hard, but faded once they got the lead. Kevin Shattenkirk is the real fucking deal. That kid is phenomenal. I’m still shocked that they traded for Ryan O’Byrne and that he’s an everyday player for them, then they also traded for Matt Hunwick. Talk about your polar opposites.
The one thing that was a revelation was to watch the contrasting systems. The Avs’ system is simple. On offense, get the puck to the net and crash hard looking for rebounds (especially if you’re the off-wing player). On defense, backcheck to the high-slot, then find the puck or a man. There’s more to it than that, obviously, but it works in large part because it’s simple. Compared to the Caps’ system, with one-on-one pressure assignments all over the ice (which led in large part to Wilson’s goal), it’s almost shockingly simplistic. Personally, I’d like to see the Caps play a little more like the Avs, but I’m not sure they’ve got the team speed to pull it off with every line.
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