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Your savory breakfast links:

  • The Alex Ovechkin DVD release extravaganza enters Day Two:
    • AO revealed who he'd take with his first pick if he was named All-Star captain and much more on LaVar and Dukes. [106.7 The Fan (audio), SB Nation DC]
    • Then it was off to the DVD Release Party. [NHL.com (Masisak), WaPo (Steinberg), Alex Ovetjkin]
    • Apparently he'll be taking over FOX 5 this morning at 8:15... [@stevechenevey]
    • ... and signing DVDs at Best Buy in Sterling this evening. [@BestBuySterling]
  • And, in case you missed it in the wee hours of the morning, Tuvan posted a translation of Slava Malamud's latest interview with The Great Eight. [Japers' Rink]
  • Scoring chances, line-by-line. [RMNB]
  • The John Erskine love reaches a fever pitch. [D.C. Sports Bog, Kukla's Korner, WaPo (Wang)]
  • One year from now, will Alexander Semin be a Cap? Should he be? [Insider2, Puck Daddy]
  • NHL.com's staff picks their starting six All-Stars. [Rosen, Lozo, Roarke, Morreale, Kimelman]
  • You always remember your first. [CSN Washington (video)]
  • More on Semyon Varlamov in Hershey. [Stack the Pads]
  • Nice story about AO being a good dude. [Caps Today]
  • The Caps have definitely ramped up the physicality this season. [the CAPS lock]
  • If you want to relive the brutality that was the dude from Barenaked Ladies butchering our national anthem, this link's for you. [D.C. Sports Bog]
  • Welcome back to the NHL, Nolan Yonkman. [RtR]
  • It's Hockey n' Heels time, ladies. [Hockey Mom]
  • A tribute to Steve Kolbe to celebrate his 1,000th game behind the mic. [OFB]
  • Speaking of radio, that there's enough demand in D.C. to air AHL games on the radio says something, both about the city and the quality of the broadcasts themselves. [OFB]
  • Bear Tracks! [LDN]
  • Cody Eakin will captain Team WHL at the Super Series, and got a little help gingerfying his bobbleheads. [Broncos Blog]
  • Jared DeMichiel is doing the Movember thing, and stopping pucks along the way. [Stack the Pads]
  • Finally, happy 33rd birthday to Josh Green.

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•If you want to relive the brutality that was the dude from Barenaked Ladies butchering our national anthem, this link’s for you.

Must have been all the blow

by Brainumbc on Nov 16, 2010 7:09 AM EST reply actions  

nah, weed makes you forget things

by hockeypunk on Nov 16, 2010 8:27 AM EST up reply actions  

 I wonder if any other towns have any weird traditions about things they yell during the athems (american or canadian)

by Brainumbc on Nov 16, 2010 8:37 AM EST up reply actions  

The yell “stars” at Dallas Stars games, if I’m not mistaken.

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by J.P. on Nov 16, 2010 8:40 AM EST up reply actions  

I haven’t been to a caps game in almost a year. People still yell RED and O?

by Brainumbc on Nov 16, 2010 8:51 AM EST up reply actions  

Uh, yeah.

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by J.P. on Nov 16, 2010 8:52 AM EST up reply actions  

It will never end.

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Nov 16, 2010 8:53 AM EST up reply actions  

I was thinking about that. The “RED” shout will never be completely wiped out, so the Caps should own it, and ask the anthem singers not sing that word. Make the crowd part of the anthem, not a distraction.

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by EmilyB on Nov 16, 2010 11:22 AM EST up reply actions  

Disagree vehemently. The team should neither embrace nor encourage appropriating a portion of the National Anthem to comply with their own marketing strategies.

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by J.P. on Nov 16, 2010 11:25 AM EST up reply actions   3 recs

The best they can do is just do what they’ve always done. Tell people to be respectful and remove their caps.

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Nov 16, 2010 11:28 AM EST up reply actions  

I feel like I must just not be that patriotic…things like anthems and flags and stuff are great symbols, but they are just symbols, so I don’t get all that fussed by people yelling one word louder than the others. I do get annoyed by the “O” thing, but that’s just because it’s an Orioles tradition and the Caps aren’t the Orioles (duh).

But as long as they’re not adding things (for example, guy in my section yells “-vechkin!!” after the O, which I hate)…meh. Anthems before sporting events seem silly to me, anyway, especially when the majority of the players on both teams are not American.

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by Becca H on Nov 16, 2010 11:47 AM EST up reply actions  

I’ve asked myself a lot over the years “how did this tradition get started?”

And I’ll tell you……….I don’t know.

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Nov 16, 2010 11:52 AM EST up reply actions  

We’ve had this discussion before — I’m pretty sure it started at North American baseball games during a World War.

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by CapitalCentre on Nov 16, 2010 11:54 AM EST up reply actions  

(I was quoting Fiddler on the Roof)

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Nov 16, 2010 12:00 PM EST up reply actions  

I was going to say, that sounds totally familiar…couldn’t place it though :P

Traditioooooon! TRADITION!

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by Becca H on Nov 16, 2010 12:01 PM EST up reply actions  

 
 
AT THREE I STARTED HEBREW SCHOOL. AT TEN I LEARNED A TRADE.

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Nov 16, 2010 12:04 PM EST up reply actions  

/abashed

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by CapitalCentre on Nov 16, 2010 12:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, I have a feeling this whole thread has been repeated before (and is destined to repeat again :P). That sounds about right, and it made sense then…but now? Particularly in a sport that is the most international of any? Seems like a sappy tradition to me.

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by Becca H on Nov 16, 2010 12:01 PM EST up reply actions  

I mean, they’ve been doing the “Oh” since I was a kid. At EVERYTHING local. I can’t see that ever going away.

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Nov 16, 2010 11:25 AM EST up reply actions  

That’s what I meant. It’s not going away – it belongs to the fans now, let them own it. It is not part of the Capitals’ marketing scheme, it’s a tradition.

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by EmilyB on Nov 16, 2010 11:30 AM EST up reply actions  

Sorry I started this debate again.

Just the way I see it. When I went to my first Caps game at 13 years old. Everyone yelled “O”. I had no idea it was an Orioles thing. I just thought it was something that crowd did to just really get into the anthem.

So here’s the kicker for those of you who thing it’s disrespectful to yell something related to your team during the anthem…..

Would it be just respectful if the thing the crowd chanted had nothing to go with the team? If the crowd just yelled “O” during that one part just for fun?

by Brainumbc on Nov 16, 2010 12:12 PM EST up reply actions  

er would it be just as disrespectful?

The point being, is it the fact that you’re yelling ANYTHING that makes it wrong or just that it has something to do with your team?

if it’s anything then I ask you this, technically, if they’re yelling “O” just for fun and not for the orioles then really, they’re just technically singing along and taking part in the anthem so what’s wrong with that?

I wonder how people in the military feel about it

by Brainumbc on Nov 16, 2010 12:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Sorry I started this debate again.
Would it be just respectful if the thing the crowd chanted had nothing to go with the team? If the crowd just yelled "O" during that one part just for fun?
er would it be just as disrespectful?
if it’s anything then I ask you this, technically, if they’re yelling "O" just for fun and not for the orioles then really, they’re just technically singing along and taking part in the anthem so what’s wrong with that?
I wonder how people in the military feel about it

It doesn’t sound like you’re at all sorry for starting this debate again.

I was in the military, the anthem means something to me, but the beauty of this country is that it doesn’t have to mean the same thing to you. If you want to say “oh” or “red” or “stars,” be my guest. The only thing that bugs me are people who are intentionally disrespectful, such as people booing the anthem or talking during it.

Otherwise, it’s a song. There are bigger injustices in the world.

And I hear you talk the talk, but I don't see you walk the walk and I still don't believe a thing you say.

by D'ohboy on Nov 16, 2010 12:20 PM EST up reply actions  

You’re right. I’m not sorry. I relish in the drama. MUAHAHAA

by Brainumbc on Nov 16, 2010 12:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Stand up, remove your hat and don’t boo. Anything else should fly during the anthem.

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Did I look on great Orion sloping slowly to the West.

by sydtron on Nov 16, 2010 12:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Stand up, remove your hat, sing or keep your mouth shut and applaud at the effort of the singer at the end…even if they fuck it up.

"Quint?"........"No."

by NJNJ on Nov 16, 2010 12:33 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I actually brought this up because I was watching the video of the anthem there in NY and there was a lot of noise. Either NY ranger fans were booing the bad lyrics or that’s just how they always are

by Brainumbc on Nov 16, 2010 12:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Hear, hear. Hating on the “red” or the “O” comes off as cranky.

Most people are still unaware that the O is a Baltimore thing anyways. I won’t sing the “O” at Nationals games, but it’s part of the fun at Caps games.

You had me at no problem.

by Ninjak on Nov 16, 2010 12:56 PM EST up reply actions  

They yell out “night/knight” in Atlanta because of the IHL team that played here in the early 90’s.

by David Getz on Nov 16, 2010 8:03 PM EST up reply actions  

The DVD’s not too bad; a bio piece without exactly being a bio piece and spends the time showing AO and his peeps in and around Moscow. Based on the length I’m guessing they’ll likely air it on NHLN or something soon, but you know you want the team to get a little merch revenue.

"DON'T SAY THAT! Please! That is the worst, most stupid thing anyone could say! Cause it quite clearly isn't "only a game." I mean if it was do you honestly think I'd care this much?"

by Bald Pollack on Nov 16, 2010 7:43 AM EST reply actions  

Can’t imagine the team is getting much of a cut here – this is very much a Warner/IMG project (with the NHL’s seal of approval, of course).

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by J.P. on Nov 16, 2010 7:47 AM EST up reply actions  

That’s actually a great write-up, and gives me reason to think about buying it (the extras), which I wasn’t at all planning on doing.

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by gfcaps fan on Nov 16, 2010 7:59 AM EST up reply actions  

Ha, nice. And damn, they must have just put it up (checked it 45 minutes ago).

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by Bald Pollack on Nov 16, 2010 8:02 AM EST up reply actions  

Per John Walton (on Twitter), “Todd Ford and Joe Finley have been assigned to South Carolina.”

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by J.P. on Nov 16, 2010 8:00 AM EST reply actions  

000

OFB’s reaction to the Finley demotion:

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Nov 16, 2010 8:04 AM EST up reply actions   3 recs

Big Joe’s stat line in HER – 5 GP, 0 G, 1 A, +5, 15 PIMs, 2 SOG

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by J.P. on Nov 16, 2010 8:09 AM EST up reply actions  

Ford is going down to make room for Varly, and Finley is prolly making room for the return of Souray. Though we haven’t exactly heard a lot from/about Sheldon lately, have we?

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by EmilyB on Nov 16, 2010 8:11 AM EST up reply actions  

I guess you could say that Todd just wasn’t….built Ford tough.

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Nov 16, 2010 8:16 AM EST up reply actions   2 recs

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"Inglewood Jack! Inglewood Jack!" - Coach Jules

by Alz Well That Ends Well on Nov 16, 2010 9:43 AM EST up reply actions  

I don’t think Souray’s coming back any time soon – he’s still week-to-week.

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by J.P. on Nov 16, 2010 10:01 AM EST up reply actions  

Then again, so is Patrick McNeill (hooray). So Hershey can look forward to both their returns.

by Wheeler on Nov 16, 2010 11:45 AM EST up reply actions  

Scratch that. Per Tim Leone:

Sheldon Souray (hand) is on target for a return this weekend, tryout Phil Oreskovic impressed last weekend and earned a continuing look, and Dylan Yeo is playing well. Thus, Finley, scratched in all three games last weekend, was sent down to get playing time.

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by J.P. on Nov 16, 2010 1:11 PM EST up reply actions  

You know it

Additional:

Thus, Finley, scratched in all three games last weekend, was sent down to get playing time.

"It could be something that’s relatively short term," French said.

Another factor affecting Finley is Keith Aucoin, still sidelined by a knee injury. Veteran Aucoin’s potential absence could allow Hershey to play all three veteran defensemen — Souray, Lawrence Nycholat, Brian Fahey — this weekend, leaving no lineup room for Finley.

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by EmilyB on Nov 16, 2010 1:13 PM EST up reply actions  

ha ha bad or good timing on my part with my post above…

Also, from Leone….

“Steve Pinizzotto (finger) and Francois Bouchard (neck) also sat out practice at Giant Center. Bouchard collided with teammate Kyle Greentree during Sunday’s pregame warmup.”

by sk84fun_dc on Nov 16, 2010 1:14 PM EST up reply actions  

collided with teammate

“pulled a Yonkman”

Atta dinnin stick a who!

by Gould Old Days on Nov 16, 2010 3:37 PM EST up reply actions  

FWIW, I was under the impression Souray was getting close based on Leone’s practice updates and was only ruled out of last weekend right before the 3 in 3s started.

As I noted elsewhere (HFBs), Finley has not played since Nov 9th in Charlotte; he did not play in any games of the 3 in 3 this past weekend. Hershey brought in Oreskovic on a PTO. It’s possible another dman could also be close to returning to the line-up.

by sk84fun_dc on Nov 16, 2010 1:12 PM EST up reply actions  

It’s a little sucky that Finley gets sent down in favor of a guy on a PTO. But Hershey plays to win so I guess that’s what happens.

by Reckless on Nov 16, 2010 3:18 PM EST up reply actions  

At the same time, the guy on the PTO is more likely (no matter how small that likelihood) to make it to Washington this year (though the Caps would need to sign him).

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by J.P. on Nov 16, 2010 3:22 PM EST up reply actions  

The list of people more likely to play in Washington this year than Joe Finley probably includes almost the entire NHL and AHL.

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by Doncosmic on Nov 16, 2010 3:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Hard to read too much into that, given his game. You didn’t expect a bunch of points, he has a decent +5, and as long as those are 3 fights it looks like what I’d expect his stats to be.

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by Rob Parker on Nov 16, 2010 11:48 AM EST up reply actions  

Yea, but you’d have to be pretty bad to have a – on a team that has a +19 goal differential in 15 games.

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by Doncosmic on Nov 16, 2010 11:55 AM EST up reply actions  

That number is a little misleading because of some huge blowouts, and that PPGs don’t give anyone a plus, but even running with it, you’d expect a guy on a 2nd-3rd pair (which, in my understanding, is where Finley’s been playing) to have a little less than 1/3 of that number of pluses, if the scoring was equally distributed. That’s just about where Finley is, so it makes sense that he’s +5.

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by Rob Parker on Nov 16, 2010 12:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Note, SC plays at home tonight. Greenville at SC, I won’t be surprised to see Ford in goal. It’s an understatement to say SC could really use a win tonight.

by sk84fun_dc on Nov 16, 2010 10:48 AM EST up reply actions  

Greenville has an ECHL team? Sweet…I’ll be down there in February.

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Nov 16, 2010 10:58 AM EST up reply actions  

Are you talking about Greenville, NC or Greenville, SC?

The ECHL team is based in Greenville, SC.

by sk84fun_dc on Nov 16, 2010 11:08 AM EST up reply actions  

SC. I’ll be down there in February to see John Prine.

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Nov 16, 2010 11:12 AM EST up reply actions  

Lucky duck.

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by Rather Bengt on Nov 16, 2010 11:14 AM EST up reply actions  

Just looked at the schedule, only 3 home games the whole month, but all 3 are against the Stingrays. Greenville is affiliated with NYR/Hartford and Philly/Adirondack

by sk84fun_dc on Nov 16, 2010 11:24 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah I ran the ol’ Wikipedia and checked that too.

I liked that Hartford is changing their name to the “Connecticut Whale”

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Nov 16, 2010 11:26 AM EST up reply actions  

Central CT is awesome, by the way. Steamed Cheeseburgers FTW.

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Nov 16, 2010 11:27 AM EST up reply actions  

I thought steamed hams was more of an Albany thing.

by Wheeler on Nov 16, 2010 11:27 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Utica.

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Nov 16, 2010 11:29 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

New Haven has you covered: The hockey team has its credible seasons; the rink’s a landmark (and some insist on calling it ‘the Whale’); and Louis’ Lunch grinds the chuck downstairs to broil your burger upstairs.

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by redlineblue on Nov 16, 2010 11:45 AM EST up reply actions  

I thought this was.

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by J.P. on Nov 16, 2010 12:35 PM EST up reply actions  

There’s something ahistoric about the cheez-wiz, I think, but that’s a damn good burger and the Lassen family are pure gold.

There's no 'i' in "team". But there's a 'nap' in "champion".

by redlineblue on Nov 16, 2010 1:35 PM EST up reply actions  

i refrained from commenting at first but let me just put out there my polite disagreement.

don’t have any real experience with the family outside a few conversations, but the burger was nothing to rave about and certainly not good enough for them to enforce a no ketchup policy. i can imagine a burger good enough to go condiment-less, but that wasn’t it. (for the record, eaten there only twice.)

by Natty Bumppo on Nov 16, 2010 1:44 PM EST up reply actions  

To be worth going condiment-less I picture something like ground ribeye with bleu cheese

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by Doncosmic on Nov 16, 2010 1:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Heresy!

Eating there a lot in the 70s 80s, I saw the no-condiment thing as a “we ain’t modern” marker, at least as much as a “we’re so good we don’t need it” flag. There also wasnt a steakhouse-chain kobe-beef platinum-roasted burger on every corner (and in New Haven, there prob’ly still isn’t). All they had to do was beat hell out of McDowells, BurgerThing, and Blight Castle—which they did, and always asked after my mom, too.
IOW, try your next one with tomato, onion, and nostalgia. Delicious!

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by redlineblue on Nov 16, 2010 2:21 PM EST up reply actions  

We were just up there for our honeymoon. Yale’s nice, but the streets are a pain in the ass. Went to Bella’s for breakfast on Whalley and it was gold.

But this is OT.

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Nov 16, 2010 2:26 PM EST up reply actions  

more data needed. See you OT?

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by redlineblue on Nov 16, 2010 2:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Fo Sho

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Nov 16, 2010 2:56 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m just impressed that they apparently have birch beer, not very common outside of DE and eastern PA.

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by Doncosmic on Nov 16, 2010 1:42 PM EST up reply actions  

they definitely have birch beer. the atmosphere is pretty cool too. you get a sense of the history.

by Natty Bumppo on Nov 16, 2010 1:45 PM EST up reply actions  

I still really want to try Dogfish head’s birch beer, but they only have it at the alehouse, and when your there, there are just too many other good things to choose from.

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by Doncosmic on Nov 16, 2010 1:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Lookit big Alex squeezed into that bitty li’l chair on Fox.

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by EmilyB on Nov 16, 2010 8:23 AM EST reply actions  

Pics or it didn’t happen.

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by J.P. on Nov 16, 2010 8:27 AM EST up reply actions  

None from me but rest assured the red armchair was not equal to the task of containing his awesomeness,

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by EmilyB on Nov 16, 2010 8:31 AM EST up reply actions  

No sedan chair borne by eunuchs with damsels casting rose petals in his path?

If you've read this far...seek help.

by ThePeerless on Nov 16, 2010 10:03 AM EST up reply actions  

I’m not watching but if it’s the same tiny two chair and mini table setup for most interviews, I can only imagine.

by Brainumbc on Nov 16, 2010 8:38 AM EST up reply actions  

Personally I’d like to see Ovi on “Between two ferns”.

"I tried to capture the spirit of the thing"

by tuvanhillbilly on Nov 16, 2010 9:51 AM EST up reply actions  

Haha! Seconded.

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by zephyr on Nov 16, 2010 2:41 PM EST up reply actions  

So from the latest from DGB has this:


Do: Continue to play the same sort of tough, physical game that helped you get called up in the first place.
Do not: Play that way against Gregory Campbell. Um, you’re just going to have to trust us on that one.

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by apk3000 on Nov 16, 2010 8:43 AM EST reply actions  

That was a great read, very entertaining with a lot of good (albeit kind of obvious, advice)

I like Laich, but I <3 Green

by RockinRed4Life on Nov 16, 2010 11:01 AM EST up reply actions  

I’m impressed that Swift Current took the time to gingerfy the Eakin bobbles.

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by boutros23 on Nov 16, 2010 8:46 AM EST reply actions  

Not much else to do in Swift Current than watch WHL games and gingerfy bobbleheads.

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by Rather Bengt on Nov 16, 2010 8:51 AM EST up reply actions  

Hockey Wilderness is killing it on the Colin Campbell emails

http://www.hockeywilderness.com/2010/11/15/1815164/from-my-moms-basement-colin-campbell

One of the many, many money quotes:

Did we need the emails? No. Did the NHL need the emails? Absolutely they did. They cannot be explained away, and they cannot simply be ignored. There is no justification for the things Campbell wrote to the NHLOA. None. An NHL executive cannot be allowed to attempt to sway an NHLOA official into improving the playing conditions for his son, and he cannot be allowed to openly call players names.

Very much worth reading.

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by fat_daddyo on Nov 16, 2010 9:02 AM EST reply actions   3 recs

And more, in response to the official responses.

http://www.hockeywilderness.com/2010/11/15/1815866/nhl-responds-in-colin-campbell-case

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by fat_daddyo on Nov 16, 2010 9:12 AM EST up reply actions  

great links—thanks FD.

The irony is Colie will walk away from this relatively unscathed. His ‘rep’ was already in tatters, so the damnation of the emails simply reinforces the notion that he’s a lout. And his nothing-to-see-here attitude in the the aftermath probably came from above in the form of advice.

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by bigonetimer on Nov 16, 2010 9:55 AM EST up reply actions  

Well HW makes a very good point in that these emails pretty much eliminate any plausible denial on the NHL’s part. It also just makes us all feel justified in calling Campbell a biased moron. Not that it will change anything though…

"Do you see my fist? It was fists like these that built quaint Canadian cities out of the harsh Canadian wilderness, etc. etc."

Not in Seattle anymore.

by SeattleCapsFan on Nov 16, 2010 10:02 AM EST up reply actions  

Another quote:

The fact that any of this occurred is completely and totally unsurprising.

That’s one of the more disturbing aspects of this whole mess. That no one who follows hockey is at all surprised something like this is finally coming out.

"Do you see my fist? It was fists like these that built quaint Canadian cities out of the harsh Canadian wilderness, etc. etc."

Not in Seattle anymore.

by SeattleCapsFan on Nov 16, 2010 9:49 AM EST up reply actions  

They cannot be explained away, and they cannot simply be ignored

Uh, yeah they can, and yeah they can. The NHL is doing exactly that.

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by ThePeerless on Nov 16, 2010 10:04 AM EST up reply actions  

After a day of thinking about it, this whole e-mail affair strikes me as the NHL equivalant of the Blagojevich affair. Incredibly stoopid? Indubitably. Ethically bankrupt? Probably (it’s not just two guys sharing a laugh or a dad “venting”). Something to remove him from office for? Tougher question, but as Wyshynski put it, there are other reasons for that action to be taken…“The state of the NHL’s supplemental discipline system is, and has been, reason enough.”

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by ThePeerless on Nov 16, 2010 10:08 AM EST up reply actions  

It’s not like “fire Colin Campbell” is just getting legs because of these emails. Fans have wanted him fired for years. The emails just sparked hopes that the league would suffer enough of a black eye that they’d have to fire him.

by Wheeler on Nov 16, 2010 10:30 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

league would suffer enough of a black eye

#needsmoreconcussion.

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by redlineblue on Nov 16, 2010 10:36 AM EST up reply actions  

It used to be just vague calls of bias, or saying there’s an appearance of bias which is just as bad as actual bias. Now this guy shows actual bias and he’s not blacklisted from the league?

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Did I look on great Orion sloping slowly to the West.

by sydtron on Nov 16, 2010 10:42 AM EST up reply actions  

The lawyers on this blog know that even a hint of bias on the part of an adjudicator renders the entire process suspect and destroys its integrity. There is enough bias to remove Campbell way before the emails surfaced. The fact that the emails surfaced and the NHL has its head in the sand is amazing. You wonder how the owners of this team (who are very successful businessmen, many of them lawyers) put up with this.

by Karl W on Nov 16, 2010 10:53 AM EST up reply actions  

I think it was vague enough that things were kept under wraps, but now I think it’s under wraps because if any of this really came to the surface half the damn rosters in the league would be filing suits for suspensions/fines. Every single thing he did now is tainted and subject to review.

Many a night from yonder ivied casement, ere I went to rest,
Did I look on great Orion sloping slowly to the West.

by sydtron on Nov 16, 2010 11:07 AM EST up reply actions  

The owners really need to take a stand here, because Bettman is too weak/stupid to do so on his own.

by Karl W on Nov 16, 2010 11:09 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah if they want to be a grown up league with a real TV contract, this isn’t going to fly.

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Did I look on great Orion sloping slowly to the West.

by sydtron on Nov 16, 2010 11:33 AM EST up reply actions  

Hey, maybe the Parliament of Canada can hold hearings on the matter, just like Congress did regarding steriods in Baseball. We all know how effective that was…

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by bagace on Nov 16, 2010 11:35 AM EST up reply actions  

From the Caps Today link above:

A minute or two after the boys took the ice for warm ups, Alex noticed my son. He fired a puck at the glass in front of the penalty box to get his attention, then skated over to pick up the puck and threw it over the glass for him. The look on his face says it all!

Or in words you may read further north:
Even after he was called out for spraying those sweet children in Montreal, Ovechkin once again proves what a horrible, horrible beast he is by firing a puck at an unsuspecting child.

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by bagace on Nov 16, 2010 10:38 AM EST reply actions   2 recs

Even when he’s being nice, he still comes across as kind of totally crazy.

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Did I look on great Orion sloping slowly to the West.

by sydtron on Nov 16, 2010 10:39 AM EST up reply actions  

It would’ve been marvelous if Alex had shattered the glass with that shot.

by DrinkingPartner on Nov 16, 2010 10:39 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I definitely had that thought when I read that story.

"Do you see my fist? It was fists like these that built quaint Canadian cities out of the harsh Canadian wilderness, etc. etc."

Not in Seattle anymore.

by SeattleCapsFan on Nov 16, 2010 10:46 AM EST up reply actions  

Lines from Practice

Ovechkin-Johansson-Knuble
Laich-Backstrom-Semin
Chimera-Fleischmann-Steckel-Bradley
King-Hendricks-Fehr-Gordon

Interesting pairing MoJo with Ovie and Knuble. I’m thinking Gabby is trying to channel his inner Mean Lars being put between those two. Though I think 21-19-28 could be as killer as 8-19-22. With Gordo returning the questions become who sits. Team’s perfect with Gordo in the lineup. Steckel has been playing very well. King is obvious scratch but who else?

Bruce Boudreau when asked about Brooks Laich's return to the lineup, he said: "He just adds another dimension to our team. If it was puzzle, he just fits that thing. He completes us."

Brooks Laich completing everything from teams to tires and everything in between.

by breaklance on Nov 16, 2010 11:30 AM EST reply actions  

Flash.

/never happen

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by EmilyB on Nov 16, 2010 11:31 AM EST up reply actions  

Fehr on the 4th line makes me sad.

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by Doncosmic on Nov 16, 2010 11:33 AM EST up reply actions  

Fehr not scoring makes me more sad

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by Elliotte on Nov 16, 2010 2:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Fehr-Gordon-Hendricks line looks more like a 3rd to me

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by kingzman264 on Nov 16, 2010 5:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Meanwhile the rest of the 4th line got promoted to the 3rd for practice. (Usually when Fehr’s practicing on the 4th line, it means he’s a healthy scratch.)

That makes me sad, along with the fact that he’s not scoring.

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by CapsFan75 on Nov 16, 2010 7:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Steckel has been playing well but he was given ample chance last year to warrant third line minutes. His response was more tepid than his shot. I’d rather see Hendricks on the 3rd line and that guy can’t cut the mustard with that responsibility either.

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Did I look on great Orion sloping slowly to the West.

by sydtron on Nov 16, 2010 11:34 AM EST up reply actions  

In fairness to Stecks, he’s played better since the healthy scratch.

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by J.P. on Nov 16, 2010 11:35 AM EST up reply actions  

Better, but 3rd line better? We’ll see. I guess he’s young enough that there’s some actual chance of him turning a corner but I’m so bitter after the falloff from the playoffs that I just can’t stand seeing the guy get another chance.

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Did I look on great Orion sloping slowly to the West.

by sydtron on Nov 16, 2010 11:36 AM EST up reply actions  

Oh, hell no. He’s not a third-line center.

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by J.P. on Nov 16, 2010 11:37 AM EST up reply actions  

Gordo’s not even a 3rd line center, though I wouldn’t mind seeing him there some considering the other options that the team has.

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by Doncosmic on Nov 16, 2010 11:39 AM EST up reply actions  

I think that third line is Flash/Chimera/Bradley and they just put Stecks there because it’s too hard to rotate 5 through the fourth line for a practice.

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by Rob Parker on Nov 16, 2010 11:53 AM EST up reply actions  

THN's Vezina Watch

Tim Thomas still leads the pack, duh.

Neuvi falls out of top 10 in their opinion on the race.

OUTSIDE LOOKING IN: At first glance, you’d think Michal Neuvirth should be on this list – but while his numbers are impressive, he’s clearly a beneficiary of the best offense in the NHL. Neuvirth has won four of his past five starts, but allowed three or more goals in all of them while facing more than 30 shots only once.

Bruce Boudreau when asked about Brooks Laich's return to the lineup, he said: "He just adds another dimension to our team. If it was puzzle, he just fits that thing. He completes us."

Brooks Laich completing everything from teams to tires and everything in between.

by breaklance on Nov 16, 2010 11:34 AM EST reply actions  

Hmm… yes and no.

He has been a beneficiary of the best offense in the NHL recently. But for most of October, that offense was sputtering somewhat and it was Neuvy who carried the whole team.

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by J.P. on Nov 16, 2010 11:36 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Couldn’t you make that same argument about Thomas and Boston’s defense?

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Nov 16, 2010 11:36 AM EST up reply actions  

OK…Boston is giving up 33.9 shots a game (5th worst in the league) and giving up 1.87 goals a game (only 28 goals in 15 games).

There is no way those numbers are going to hold up through an entire season.

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Nov 16, 2010 11:41 AM EST up reply actions  

Also about Neuvy’s age and workload?

by DrinkingPartner on Nov 16, 2010 11:42 AM EST up reply actions  

Nope, defense has no accounting for goalies. Ever.

The Jenning’s Trophy goes to goalies for a reason! I mean its not like the Devils, or Bruins, or Red Wings have great defense at all.

Bruce Boudreau when asked about Brooks Laich's return to the lineup, he said: "He just adds another dimension to our team. If it was puzzle, he just fits that thing. He completes us."

Brooks Laich completing everything from teams to tires and everything in between.

by breaklance on Nov 16, 2010 11:42 AM EST up reply actions  

Not with a straight face.

It’s not like the Boston defense is filled with world-beaters. Chara is an excellent defenseman, and Seidenberg is good-but-not-great, but it’s not like a Boychuk-Ference or Ference-Stuart second pairing is scaring anybody. Boston does a good job of playing team defense and limiting shots to the outside – Seidenberg, in particular, is an excellent shot-blocker – but in no way are they comparable to a deep defensive team like Philly, Detroit, Toronto, Calgary, or even Atlanta.

by Wheeler on Nov 16, 2010 11:43 AM EST up reply actions  

kcarrera Boyd Gordon, who said the latest setback was a knee injury (he’s wearing a brace on the left) said he feels he could play tmrw. #Caps

The amount of disclosure here is completely out of the norm. Wonder if he’s allowed to say that much?

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by gfcaps fan on Nov 16, 2010 11:47 AM EST reply actions  

Maybe since everyone saw him leave the ice one-legged, and he feels ready to return, there’s no use spooling up the “Injury (physical) / day – to- month (depending)” machine?

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by redlineblue on Nov 16, 2010 11:49 AM EST up reply actions  

Maybe the visual of the brace kinda gave it away?

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by bagace on Nov 16, 2010 12:35 PM EST up reply actions  

more importantly, what sort of brace?! so many things that can go wrong with a knee.

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by RedBirdie on Nov 16, 2010 3:42 PM EST up reply actions  

From RMNB:

Mike Green is making his case for the Norris early this year. The offensive part of his game is now bolstered by some tremendous defense, only allowing 11% of scoring chances convert into goals when he is on the ice during even strength and only 17% when a man down.

I like the piece, but this conclusion doesn’t sit well with me. Green should be out there limiting scoring chances against, but the conversion rate is more on the goalie than on Green. Those numbers look more like Green has been bailed out than anything else. You could argue that he’s not letting up a lot of scoring chances, but you’d have to look at how many scoring chances are normally given up in comparable ice time. That would be more convincing to me.

I also think it’s hard to nail down Neuvy’s performance because of how drastically the two months have differed.

Anyone else struck by the fact that almost all our D (except Erskine) have more than 50% O Zone starts? Does that just mean that teams that have more offensive firepower are going to have skewed zone start percentages because of how often they end shifts in the offensive zone?

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by Rob Parker on Nov 16, 2010 11:59 AM EST reply actions  

That would be my guess, the Caps are a puck possession based team that forces the opposing goalie to cover a lot of shots and they don’t seem to ice the puck very much. I have no idea where to find stats for team zone starts, but I would guess that they are in the Caps favor.

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by Doncosmic on Nov 16, 2010 12:08 PM EST up reply actions  

They’re available using a timeonice script (along the lines of http://timeonice.com/teamfaceoffs1011.php?team=WSH&first=20001&last=21230) but Vic Ferrari hasn’t updated that script yet, it seems.

Although I did tally the Caps totals (not including BUF and ATL so far) and got 52.8%. That’s decent. FWIW IIRC Chicago’s toughest Dman zonestart last year I think was Keith at about 52%, which is crazy when you think about it.

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by red army line on Nov 16, 2010 12:40 PM EST up reply actions  

So then that means we have to keep that in context whenever we talk about zone starts. People want to slam guys that have lots of O zone starts, like Green last year, but if great teams have everyone with high O zone starts then doesn’t the stat lose a lot of its punch?

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by Rob Parker on Nov 16, 2010 2:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Totally agree (and Green’s 5v5 SV% would certainly corroborate that, though it’s by no means outrageously high relative to the rest of the League).

And yes, re: zone starts.

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by J.P. on Nov 16, 2010 12:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Offensive zone starts are not only the product of firepower; Washington’s aggressive forecheck has had something to do with that as well.

by S h a g g y on Nov 16, 2010 12:27 PM EST up reply actions  

That struck me as well. I think it was JLikens who found that defensemen will sway ESSv% by only a few thousandths at most. Limiting chances to score is the way to go, not trying to decrease their quality.

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by red army line on Nov 16, 2010 12:42 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree with you, of course, but I want to build on what you said. You mention limiting quality, if there is such a big difference in the “quality” of a scoring chance then what’s the value of counting scoring chances? I thought they were all supposed to be relatively equal, i.e. a real solid chance for a goal, so then there’d be no such thing as a “weak or low quality” scoring chance.

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by Rob Parker on Nov 16, 2010 2:21 PM EST up reply actions  

From Ted’s Take:

[Ovechkin] was mic’d for Sunday’s game [for HBO] and as he said to me, "I wasn’t happy when I turned the puck over on the power play and they scored short- handed. I cursed too much and then the coach wasn’t happy with me and he was cursing too. I bet George wasn’t happy either. I have work to do on my game. I promise I will play better. Don’t trade me yet Ted."

Awesome.

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by Becca H on Nov 16, 2010 12:06 PM EST reply actions   3 recs

LOL, awesome.

"Now wait a minute. This is just purely a social call. You know, just two adults getting a stew on, man."

by The Ghost of Bebop on Nov 16, 2010 12:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Sounds like must-see TV to me. I find it interesting that he now curses in English.

by b.orr4 on Nov 16, 2010 12:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Thinking back to his first season here, I remember thinking that a certain F-word must have been the first word he learned in English because he used it a LOT. For some reason it always makes me giggle to see other guys curse, like Boyd Gordon…hilarious. Laich, too.

Related, at the game on Sunday I was sitting in the lower bowl w/ my stepmother, across from the benches. Someone took down a Cap (Laich, I think) and from across the ice I could hear someone yelling really foul things at the ref or the Atlanta player, hard to tell – look over and it’s Chimmer, just screaming at the top of his lungs. I could hear every word he said.

/random story

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by Becca H on Nov 16, 2010 12:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Chimmer, cursing at the top of his lungs? My perception of him is shattered! :)

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by RedBirdie on Nov 16, 2010 3:43 PM EST up reply actions  

I assumed he changed his language from what he uttered in Buffalo the night before.

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by bagace on Nov 16, 2010 3:49 PM EST up reply actions  

I never knew it upset him so much that they sang both the Canadian and American Natonal anthems there.

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by Rather Bengt on Nov 16, 2010 4:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Not too surprising. Swear words seem to be some of the earliest words people learn/want to learn in a new language. Every time I’m in a European country I always hear the locals use the F-word along with their own swear words.

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by oldemystix on Nov 16, 2010 1:50 PM EST up reply actions  

It’s a very cerebral act. The brain learns and processes expletives differently than other language. http://select.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F30615FC3D540C738EDDA00894DD404482

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by Alz Well That Ends Well on Nov 16, 2010 3:04 PM EST up reply actions  

My left brain wants to rec that…

"Inglewood Jack! Inglewood Jack!" - Coach Jules

by Alz Well That Ends Well on Nov 16, 2010 3:09 PM EST up reply actions  

I’d mention that Ted told me that story last night, but that would be gratuitous name-dropping.

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by J.P. on Nov 16, 2010 12:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Scheckler or Leonsis?

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Nov 16, 2010 12:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Danson.

And I hear you talk the talk, but I don't see you walk the walk and I still don't believe a thing you say.

by D'ohboy on Nov 16, 2010 12:22 PM EST up reply actions  

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Did I look on great Orion sloping slowly to the West.

by sydtron on Nov 16, 2010 12:33 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I just had a million-dollar dream…

You had me at no problem.

by Ninjak on Nov 16, 2010 1:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, you should definitely avoid doing that – you also shouldn’t bring up the fact that you and Corey got to hang out with Ovi for a few minutes, or that you guys made fun of him for going shirtless so frequently. Definitely don’t do that, it would be beneath you.

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by Becca H on Nov 16, 2010 12:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Ill-advised, JP, ill-advised.

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by EmilyB on Nov 16, 2010 12:41 PM EST up reply actions  

All that access? Does this mean you lose your blogsphere credentials ?

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by bagace on Nov 16, 2010 12:59 PM EST up reply actions  

.

"DON'T SAY THAT! Please! That is the worst, most stupid thing anyone could say! Cause it quite clearly isn't "only a game." I mean if it was do you honestly think I'd care this much?"

by Bald Pollack on Nov 16, 2010 2:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Silly Ovi. I mean, he should know he has a no trade clause in his contract. Does Ovi curse in English or Russian?

Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...

by dcsportsfan1 on Nov 16, 2010 12:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Actually… his relatively limited NTC doesn’t kick in until July 1, 2014.

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by J.P. on Nov 16, 2010 12:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Well that’s a relief…glad we have the option to move him before then.

Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...

by dcsportsfan1 on Nov 16, 2010 12:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Does Ovi curse in English or Russian?

“Tune in to HBO starting December 12 to find out…”

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by EmilyB on Nov 16, 2010 12:43 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

ESPN Q&A

Michael C. (Westport, CT)
Do you curse in Russian on the ice?

Alex Ovechkin (12:39 PM)
No, not really.

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by gfcaps fan on Nov 16, 2010 1:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Michael C. (Westport, CT)
Do you curse in Russian on the ice?

Alex Ovechkin (12:39 PM)
No, not really. Sometimes. But only at Backie.

FTFY

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by EmilyB on Nov 16, 2010 1:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Not for me. I only quoted the man. :-)

"It's always good to have vikings."

by gfcaps fan on Nov 16, 2010 1:08 PM EST up reply actions  

FTFO, then.

;-)

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by EmilyB on Nov 16, 2010 1:18 PM EST up reply actions  

In a radio interview Nicklas did maybe two years ago he went through Ovechkin’s Russian curse words of choice. He sure been Americanized quickly because he actually asked if he was allowed too curse on national radio.

by Malin A on Nov 16, 2010 1:28 PM EST up reply actions  

HBO’s pimping some sort of sneak preview after the Pacquiao-Margarito reairing Saturday, for whatever that’s worth.

"DON'T SAY THAT! Please! That is the worst, most stupid thing anyone could say! Cause it quite clearly isn't "only a game." I mean if it was do you honestly think I'd care this much?"

by Bald Pollack on Nov 16, 2010 1:28 PM EST up reply actions  

The Buzz on HBO has already been previewing the show. I wonder if this is going to be a bigger preview.

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by oldemystix on Nov 16, 2010 1:42 PM EST up reply actions  

I think it’s supposed to be like a 12-minute preview on Saturday.

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by Becca H on Nov 16, 2010 1:44 PM EST up reply actions  

That’s somewhere around midnight, right? Late enough that we’ll all be home from the game. (And likely to DVR it anyway.)

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by gfcaps fan on Nov 16, 2010 1:45 PM EST up reply actions  

12:15 if I recall correctly.

"DON'T SAY THAT! Please! That is the worst, most stupid thing anyone could say! Cause it quite clearly isn't "only a game." I mean if it was do you honestly think I'd care this much?"

by Bald Pollack on Nov 16, 2010 1:46 PM EST up reply actions  

According to Ted, he curses in English.

by b.orr4 on Nov 16, 2010 12:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Fack!

Shet!

BOOM!

by DrinkingPartner on Nov 16, 2010 2:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Agreed, that is awesome.

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by gfcaps fan on Nov 16, 2010 12:42 PM EST up reply actions  

That team doctor for the Sharks could be the funniest person in history.

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Nov 16, 2010 1:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Agreed. What an amazing story. I bet the Flyers doctor didn’t have anything nearly as funny to say about Thoresen.

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by Rob Parker on Nov 16, 2010 2:29 PM EST up reply actions  

____

Breaking! The back of my head makes NHL.com (and yes, there’s a way-too-easy-to-be-made joke there):

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by J.P. on Nov 16, 2010 1:46 PM EST reply actions   2 recs

Telling him to zip up as he might be showing off “the goodies”?

"DON'T SAY THAT! Please! That is the worst, most stupid thing anyone could say! Cause it quite clearly isn't "only a game." I mean if it was do you honestly think I'd care this much?"

by Bald Pollack on Nov 16, 2010 1:50 PM EST up reply actions  

From the Eastern Conference summaries at JP’s link:

McPhee told NHL.com goalie Semyon Varlamov (groin) is going to stay with the AHL Hershey Bears until team doctors are certain he’s 100 percent. Varlamov injured his groin in the preseason and aggravated it in the one game he played earlier this season. “Rather than make that mistake again, we’ll let him play in Hershey for two, three, four or even five weeks so he can play and make sure his health is right,” McPhee said.

And a very Merry Christmas to you, Semyon.

As I think about that – will it be Holtby or Varly on the bench in Pittsburgh on New Year’s Day? (Assuming Neuvy gets the start)

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by EmilyB on Nov 16, 2010 2:12 PM EST up reply actions  

omfg. “three, four, even five weeks” and yet he’s still day-to-day on my ESPN fantasy team. dammit.

by Natty Bumppo on Nov 16, 2010 2:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Those groin injuries are brutal like that. I had this conversation with K_C last night, but regarding Poti. If his groin continues to be a chronic problem we’ll likely never get LTIR relief, though we could always try if we wanted to because the NHL would never second guess the team designation.

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by Rob Parker on Nov 16, 2010 2:32 PM EST up reply actions  

(And if they did second guess it, give ’em a pair of skates and invite them to take a twirl at the VC.)

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by J.P. on Nov 16, 2010 2:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Five weeks from today is only December 21, and unless Varly hurts himself again (not outside the realm of possibility), I doubt he stays in Hershey for five weeks.

"It's always good to have vikings."

by gfcaps fan on Nov 16, 2010 2:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, 0% chance he’s there for five weeks barring a health-related setback.

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by J.P. on Nov 16, 2010 2:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Question: How is it that the AHL is that much safer to play in with a less-than-100% groin (other than the obvious “They don’t play on Verizon Center ice in the AHL”)?

I understand wanting him there to get his timing back, but if he’s not at 100%, why is he playing anywhere?

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by J.P. on Nov 16, 2010 2:21 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Even McPhee has a brain cramp once in a while and uses the wrong word?

"It's always good to have vikings."

by gfcaps fan on Nov 16, 2010 2:22 PM EST up reply actions  

I think the operative word is “play”, which he wouldn’t be doing as much of here if called up. Let him play a couple of back to backs or 2 in 3 nights in the A and see how he responds. The AHL schedule allows for more recoup time than the NHL schedule.

Or perhaps GMGM thinks there are more fat chicks in Hershey, which may provide ample motivation for Varly to get better and back to DC.

Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...

by dcsportsfan1 on Nov 16, 2010 2:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Well, they probably won’t put him on the bus to Bingo for Friday… and won’t play him back-to-back Saturday and Sunday… so he gets one game this weekend?

I suspect it’s more about timing than health. If he’s sharp this weekend and feels fine, $10 says he’s back here early next week (and make that $20 if Neuvy and/or Holtby struggle between now and then).

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by J.P. on Nov 16, 2010 2:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Why wouldn’t they put him on the bus? And didn’t they just ship their other goalie to SC, so who would back up Sabourin if Varly stays behind?

I agree that if he plays and doesn’t have a set back, he’s back here at least by the Thanksgiving weekend games.

Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...

by dcsportsfan1 on Nov 16, 2010 3:03 PM EST up reply actions  

SC has a game during the week that Ford could play and be back to Hershey for the weekend.

And they wouldn’t put him on the bus b/c generally sitting on a bus for a few hours isn’t great for a tender man-area.

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by J.P. on Nov 16, 2010 3:05 PM EST up reply actions  

This may be a dumb question, but if they want to get Varly the work but don’t want to have his tender man-area on a long bus ride, why not spend a few hundered bucks and put him on a Southwest flight to Binghamton? They’d spend just as much shutting Ford back and forth from SC. I’m sure the other guys would understand why he was being accomodated like that.

Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...

by dcsportsfan1 on Nov 16, 2010 3:13 PM EST up reply actions  

When cliches attack?

Presumably the matter of Holtby’s performances (albeit limited so far) gives them the luxury of not rushing him back and letting him play slower competition for a little longer, particularly after seeing Poti’s groin/lower body adventures this season so far.

/spitballing

"DON'T SAY THAT! Please! That is the worst, most stupid thing anyone could say! Cause it quite clearly isn't "only a game." I mean if it was do you honestly think I'd care this much?"

by Bald Pollack on Nov 16, 2010 2:30 PM EST up reply actions  

I don’t really buy the “slower competition” part. I mean, sure, it is slower – Alex Giroux scored a million goals there for cryin’ out loud. But a goalie’s still gotta make stops and often very athletic stops. If he’s healthy enough to get run over by AHL plumbers and face a barrage of shots down there, he’s healthy enough to do it here. And if he can dodge a wrench, he can dodge a ball.

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by J.P. on Nov 16, 2010 2:37 PM EST up reply actions  

And lots of goalies and coaches have said that it’s tougher to play in the AHL because the defense isn’t as good so the shots aren’t as predictable. You can’t read the play and know where a shot is coming from like you can in the NHL because there are so many more breakdowns in the D systems/coverage.

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by Rob Parker on Nov 16, 2010 2:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Yup.

Further, if a guy’s not 100%, health-wise, there’s a major risk of developing bad habits that favor the injury… and create new ones. Groin injuries → knee injuries, etc.

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by J.P. on Nov 16, 2010 2:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah. None of it makes sense if he’s not already healthy. You’d think they would have learned their lesson about rushing guys back by now.

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by Rob Parker on Nov 16, 2010 3:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Maybe after Mike Green they learned a different lesson.

"This guy is an android. He's not human....Oh my goodness."

by Sam DC on Nov 16, 2010 5:28 PM EST up reply actions  

With that note, it will probably be Holtby.

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by CapsFan75 on Nov 16, 2010 7:57 PM EST up reply actions  

you needed mike green’s verizon commercial stylist. “how’s the back of my head looking, ovie?”

by Natty Bumppo on Nov 16, 2010 2:07 PM EST up reply actions  

“No Alex, I said ‘throngs’ of your fans, not thongs.

by S h a g g y on Nov 16, 2010 2:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Let me see that thong!

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by CapsFan75 on Nov 16, 2010 7:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Are you the guy on the right or the left?

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by fat_daddyo on Nov 16, 2010 2:32 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m guessing it’s Corey on the left…?

You had me at no problem.

by Ninjak on Nov 16, 2010 2:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Correct. I’m the bespectacled one.

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by J.P. on Nov 16, 2010 2:38 PM EST up reply actions  

TJ has the video of AO on Fox5 from this morning…

You perhaps knew me better as "Your Nation's Capital." Same great commentary, now with 100% more transparency!

by EmilyB on Nov 16, 2010 2:24 PM EST reply actions  

Coming soon (i.e. tomorrow) to a Clips post near you.

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by J.P. on Nov 16, 2010 2:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Per Dan Rosen, NHL.com guru (@drosennhl):

So, here are the Caps already leading the Southeast by 9 points. Boudreau in a phone interview told me he’s not too sure what to make of it.

If anyone needs me, I'll be at Kettler.

by Becca H on Nov 16, 2010 4:05 PM EST reply actions  

And then he followed it up by saying “That’s three points for each Ameritel triplet”

I poured spot remover on my dog. Now he's gone.

by Rather Bengt on Nov 16, 2010 4:08 PM EST up reply actions  

And nobody knows quality copies like their parents!

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Nov 16, 2010 4:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Those commercials are working if we’re repeating the words “Ameritel” and “copies” here.

You had me at no problem.

by Ninjak on Nov 16, 2010 4:18 PM EST up reply actions  

If you hear it enough, you’ll eventually remember it. They could say anything they want in those commercials and I’d remember it since we see an Ameritel commercial at every TV timeout.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Nov 16, 2010 4:20 PM EST up reply actions  

My bird calls have improved dramatically this season. I think.

You had me at no problem.

by Ninjak on Nov 16, 2010 4:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Those are some quality bird calls.

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by twistedlogic on Nov 16, 2010 4:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Spoken by one who knows, a man with a quote from a duck in his sig.

I poured spot remover on my dog. Now he's gone.

by Rather Bengt on Nov 16, 2010 4:35 PM EST up reply actions  

That would, in fact, be a bird call, but I’ll say that the duck in question is not actually fowl and is instead a person.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Nov 16, 2010 4:45 PM EST up reply actions  

he can make it a hat, a brooch, a pterodactyl….

Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...

by dcsportsfan1 on Nov 16, 2010 4:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Surely, you can’t be serious.

"This guy is an android. He's not human....Oh my goodness."

by Sam DC on Nov 16, 2010 5:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Most definitely my favorite line from a movie chock full of good lines.

by mechanicsville on Nov 16, 2010 9:57 PM EST up reply actions  

30 thoughts

11. George McPhee, asked what would happen if another GM called about Semyon Varlamov, Michal Neuvirth or Braden Holtby? “We’re not trading any of them.”

…this month [my snarkful addition, of course]

"It's always good to have vikings."

by gfcaps fan on Nov 16, 2010 4:12 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

you can post that without a link! That’s cruel and unusual punishment!

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by RedBirdie on Nov 16, 2010 4:14 PM EST up reply actions  

your sins are now absolved :)

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by RedBirdie on Nov 16, 2010 4:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Seriously. And I’m not necessarily buying GMGM’s quote. Of course they don’t want to trade them, but there surely is an offer out there that pries one away.

Lockout talk makes me want to go out and choke an old lady - Elliotte Friedman

by Rob Parker on Nov 16, 2010 4:17 PM EST up reply actions  

GMGM and the offerer are in the same boat: it’s still pretty hard to tell which one to covet. I’ll bet everyone thought the picture would be clearer by now than it is.

There's no 'i' in "team". But there's a 'nap' in "champion".

by redlineblue on Nov 16, 2010 4:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Until Varlamov can stay healthy for any length of time, they really can’t do anything. Because if he can’t, they’ve only got two goalies. It will be a couple of years before any more recent draft picks are close to ready.

"It's always good to have vikings."

by gfcaps fan on Nov 16, 2010 4:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Of course.

Poile: “We’ll give you Shea Weber for Braden Holtby.”

GMGM: “Hell no!”

You had me at no problem.

by Ninjak on Nov 16, 2010 4:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Possible. But look at that quote from another perspective – is he not trading them because he wants to hang onto them, which is how it reads initially, or is he not trading them because the market for goalies right now sucks?

Plus it’s not like we know for sure who The Guy is yet – better to wait until one of them steps up as the absolute #1 (or at least 2 step up as 50/50 guys) to even try to assess the trade market for one of them.

If anyone needs me, I'll be at Kettler.

by Becca H on Nov 16, 2010 4:22 PM EST up reply actions  

By the quote in 30 Thoughts it seems like he’s saying they just aren’t trading them without the context of the goalie market. Obviously it’s GMGM so the goalie market is kind of implicit in the comment, but I think if a team offered us a legit top 4D or 2C for one of them he’d probably take it. Right now, the only guy he absolutely wouldn’t move is probably Neuvirth because he’s just too important to the team for this season and it would be hard to get an adequate 1G right now.

Lockout talk makes me want to go out and choke an old lady - Elliotte Friedman

by Rob Parker on Nov 16, 2010 4:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Right, and that’s how I read it too. I’m just saying…is that how he’s answering because it’s the reality, he doesn’t want to part with any of them? Or is he answering that way because, thanks to a crappy goalie market, the reality is there ARE no “knock your socks off” deals being offered for them? Hard to say. GMGM’s such a tricky dude.

If anyone needs me, I'll be at Kettler.

by Becca H on Nov 16, 2010 4:47 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m a bigger fan of the anonymous Thrash quote on accountability, to be honest.

"DON'T SAY THAT! Please! That is the worst, most stupid thing anyone could say! Cause it quite clearly isn't "only a game." I mean if it was do you honestly think I'd care this much?"

by Bald Pollack on Nov 16, 2010 5:12 PM EST up reply actions  

The team used to pay out for the mini-bars in the hotels, but with Byfuglien here they’re making people held accountable toward their room tabs.

Many a night from yonder ivied casement, ere I went to rest,
Did I look on great Orion sloping slowly to the West.

by sydtron on Nov 16, 2010 5:19 PM EST up reply actions  

The Boston quote was very interesting. I wonder who the first two players are, who the third is, and what kind of package they’re looking for in return.

"Essentially, all models are wrong, but some are useful" George E.P. Box

by Knee high to a duck on Nov 16, 2010 7:00 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I’m guessing Ryder is the first, Wheeler is probably second.

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by Rob Parker on Nov 16, 2010 7:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Maybe, but that third one that they don’t want to discuss yet is the one that really interests me. I’m trying to come up with names and drawing a real blank.

"Essentially, all models are wrong, but some are useful" George E.P. Box

by Knee high to a duck on Nov 16, 2010 7:47 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Stuart is my guess.

Lockout talk makes me want to go out and choke an old lady - Elliotte Friedman

by Rob Parker on Nov 17, 2010 12:07 AM EST up reply actions  

CURSE YOU, CSN+!!!!

I’m not even sure I get it on Fios in DC. The link Nate posted (http://wshca.ps/97w5ul ) claims I get CSN+ on channel 1. And I definitely do not get it in HD. I thought this was a thing of the past…

You had me at no problem.

by Ninjak on Nov 16, 2010 5:13 PM EST reply actions  

You probably get it on channel 1. Do you get The Comcast Network? It’s what switches over to CSN+ in HD on a lot of cable systems.

Aim for the head baby Jesus

by Doncosmic on Nov 16, 2010 5:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Don’t know if it was mentioned but #needsmoreBrads made #6 on NHL’s hits of the week.

Ya know, that hit that was so good it merited a fight immediately after.

Bruce Boudreau when asked about Brooks Laich's return to the lineup, he said: "He just adds another dimension to our team. If it was puzzle, he just fits that thing. He completes us."

Brooks Laich completing everything from teams to tires and everything in between.

by breaklance on Nov 16, 2010 6:27 PM EST reply actions  

The woman that made mössorna have a blog.

by Malin A on Nov 16, 2010 7:44 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

Oh have the times have changed in Montreal for Carey Price. Weren’t they booing him a lot last season?

by jaytown99 on Nov 16, 2010 9:45 PM EST reply actions  

Last month, wasn’t it?

"It's always good to have vikings."

by gfcaps fan on Nov 16, 2010 10:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Guess they now feel like they made the right choice by letting Halak go since Halak is now slumping.

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by CapsFan75 on Nov 16, 2010 11:21 PM EST up reply actions  

HE is, but the Blues are also missing Roman Polak, Barret Jackman, David Perron and T.J. Oshie.

Proud member of the Popsicle Division of the Cupcake Conference.

by Bman21212 on Nov 17, 2010 1:55 AM EST up reply actions  

A very decimated Blues team indeed. The wheels have really fallen off the bus for them since the Oshie injury (and that Columbus game).

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