Non-Recap Recap: Sabres 3, Caps 2 (OT)
by J.P. on Nov 13, 2010 9:43 PM EST
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Did Tyler Sloan skate?
Many a night from yonder ivied casement, ere I went to rest,
Did I look on great Orion sloping slowly to the West.
by sydtron on Nov 13, 2010 9:47 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I’d be embarrassed about the 2nd period.
Holtby played pretty well. And rather than gripe about how he, Carlson, and Alzner all got burned by Vanek for the GWG, I’ll just say ’Damn, Vanek, that was pretty."
Perhaps, but the Caps were burning themselves with that all night; they definitely need to be more cognizant of their stick follow-throughs going forward.
by PureAgression on Nov 13, 2010 9:50 PM EST up reply actions
At least we got burned by a bonafied talented player we don’t hate
and yea.. that was a sweet goal
Holtby…lesson learned :P
Ouch… it hurts to still be #1
but but but but. how can you hate a city with such an excellent food named after it?
Buffalo wings are god’s gift to man
Philly Cheesesteaks, on the other hand, are mega overrated. All the “best” places that I’m told to go are fuckin’ steakums with velveeta. I can do the same damn thing with a microwave and 2 dollars
Thats right Philly.YOur cheesesteaks are a joke
I respectfully disagree, sir. I don’t know where you get yours, but the classic Philly cheesesteak uses cheez whiz, not velveeta. I prefer provolone which is also acceptable. I would doubt that you’ve ever been to Pat’s King of Steaks or Geno’s in South Philly or else you wouldn’t make such an absurd statement. On the other hand I could take or leave Buffalo wings but an authentic beef on weck sandwich that you can only get in Buffalo is to die for.
"Don’t put your beer in the microwave, eh. It’ll boil."-Bob McKenzie
OK, to each his own. Mabye you should ask for provolone next time instead of the wiz.. Just don’t ask for Swiss like John Kerry did during his campaign. He must have lost a lot of votes in Philly with that gaffe. Actually I prefer Geno’s.
"Don’t put your beer in the microwave, eh. It’ll boil."-Bob McKenzie
I actually think the point the Caps lost on that play was worth far less than the lessons John Carlson and Holtby learned about the quickness of NHL stars. In particular, Holtby’s judgment on pokechecks (when to do it, how fast you need to move once you commit) is going to be better for seeing Vanek abuse him tonight.
This is what watching young players is about. Mike Green is a lot less likely to give that one up to Vanek today than he was two years ago. I actually really like this aspect of watching sports.
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Nov 13, 2010 10:01 PM EST up reply actions 13 recs
100% rec’d.
"DON'T SAY THAT! Please! That is the worst, most stupid thing anyone could say! Cause it quite clearly isn't "only a game." I mean if it was do you honestly think I'd care this much?"
by Bald Pollack on Nov 13, 2010 10:02 PM EST up reply actions
Holtby was also saved by the right post late in the third when he was too busy crosschecking a Sabres defender out of his crease on the left. That could easily have been a goal.
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I don’t know — that guy he was crosschecking is the guy who deflected the puck against the post. If Holtby doesn’t put a stick in his back, maybe that turns out to be a goal.
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Nov 13, 2010 10:08 PM EST up reply actions
I really like how Holtby really defends his crease though. Kid doesn’t take shit.
I like Laich, but I <3 Green
by RockinRed4Life on Nov 13, 2010 10:26 PM EST up reply actions
That was beautiful. I was stunned.
I like Laich, but I <3 Green
by RockinRed4Life on Nov 13, 2010 10:08 PM EST up reply actions
Four Caps had a hand in that goal, and none of them good. First, what was Marcus Johansson doing, trying to draft Vanek in the fourth turn at Daytona? He chased him out of the offensive zone, then as Vanek circled back, Johansson eased off. Then, John Carlson tried to sweep the puck off Vanek’s stick as Vanek was skating down the middle. Carlson missed, then wasn’t in position to defend Vanek as he broke left. Karl Alzner was late getting back and could only put a half-hearted hook on Vanek as he was about to shoot. Finally, Holtby tried to poke check the puck away and missed, leaving him face down on the ice and helpless to watch as Vanek tucked the puck behind him. The only guy not to make an appearance on the play was Ovechkin, but he was largely invisible the rest of the night, too.
I can’t fault Holtby for being daring there. He wasn’t the cowering rookie hiding in his own net. I can’t really fault Carlson, either, as the only man back for trying to sweep the puck to the side. But it was just a coincidence of events, all of which broke against the Caps to allow Vanek to get the goal.
Even the scorers flubbed the play. They had Jeff Schultz on the ice for the goal…he wasn’t.
If you've read this far...seek help.
by ThePeerless on Nov 13, 2010 11:53 PM EST up reply actions
Poor Schultzie! Gets blamed for everything that goes wrong for the Caps.
For the game winner, seems that we had all our kids on the ice (Johansson, Alzner, Carlson, and Holtby in goal).
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Watching the replay, Schultz was the victim of a bad change. As Vanek was skating out of the zone, Schultz went to the bench, Alzner hopping on. But by that time Vanek had a head of steam to the Caps net. Alzner couldn’t get into the play quickly enough to help out Carlson.
If you've read this far...seek help.
Alzner already took a hook cleaning Carlson’s mess against NYR. Why is he to blame, he wasn’t owned. The guy you let off is most culpable. Carlson has to do something there.
Lockout talk makes me want to go out and choke an old lady - Elliotte Friedman
by Rob Parker on Nov 14, 2010 3:16 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Peerless – great breakdown of the last goal, and likely something that will be used in film sessions if I had to guess. Defintiely a good amount of “aw man” to be spread around everyone.
While I’m not worried that Ovie is seemingly invisible most nights, i’m more worried about the quality of some of his passes as well as the lack of that ‘spark’ we are all used to seeing. It’s one thing when another team pushes all-in to stop Ovie, it’s another when he doesn’t force them to.
Refs allow play to continue....
Oh, I ain’t saying that a pokecheck was necessarily the wrong play there. Just that what we saw wasn’t an NHL pokecheck. Holtby will get better at them. He needed to flub one on a guy like Vanek to calibrate the thing
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Nov 14, 2010 9:40 AM EST up reply actions
Alzner was fine. Carlson got waaaaaaaalked.
Lockout talk makes me want to go out and choke an old lady - Elliotte Friedman
by Rob Parker on Nov 14, 2010 3:10 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Agreed, Alzner wasn’t the problem. He happened to be the guy jumping on for a change that was bad timing. As that change was being made, Vanek had already turned and was almost to the Caps’ line. Alzner simply had too much ice to cover to get into the play. It was not a lack of effort on his part. But someone here made a good point. If you look at the four principals on the ice at the time on that play (excluding Ovechkin, who was further up ice), they are the four youngest guys on the roster (Johansson, 20; Carlson, 21; Holtby 21; Alzner, 22). These things will happen with such a young group.
If you've read this far...seek help.
by ThePeerless on Nov 14, 2010 10:11 AM EST up reply actions
Yep. We knew we’d see rookie mistakes this year, and we have. I’m not too torn up about it. Getting walked isn’t something that you just learn from once; it takes time to figure out the speed (unlike, say, forcing a bad pass and then realizing you just can’t make those in the NHL). Carlson has definitely shown some cracks in his defensive game early on this season but I have confidence he’ll get them sorted out enough by playoff time.
Lockout talk makes me want to go out and choke an old lady - Elliotte Friedman
Well that was a team looking towards their 4 point game tomorrow.
"DON'T SAY THAT! Please! That is the worst, most stupid thing anyone could say! Cause it quite clearly isn't "only a game." I mean if it was do you honestly think I'd care this much?"
Spot on.
"I'm not great at farewells, so, uh... that'll do, pig."
by Steck It Out on Nov 13, 2010 10:01 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
He’s 3rd in the league in points and assists. If anything, 29 other teams should be worried when he finds his game.
"DON'T SAY THAT! Please! That is the worst, most stupid thing anyone could say! Cause it quite clearly isn't "only a game." I mean if it was do you honestly think I'd care this much?"
by Bald Pollack on Nov 13, 2010 10:04 PM EST up reply actions
I’m actually having more fun watching Ovie plow an opposing player into their own bench every game this season than watching his rankings in the scoring.
It’s almost like he practiced it all summer long. He’s got it down pat.
I only caught the third period tonight. To me it looked like a “lessons learned” type of game. Practicing against a “hot goalie,” a trapping team, a team desperate for a W and a shot at an elite team. As mentioned by many, lessons better learned in November than April, and boy did I enjoy watching Braden play.
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Would you really say Buffalo’s desperate for wins? They’ve played well of late.
"I'm not great at farewells, so, uh... that'll do, pig."
by Steck It Out on Nov 13, 2010 10:02 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
They were 0-6-1 at home. They really wanted this one.
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You’re WELCOME Buffalo!
Next time I visit the town in my caps jersey I better get a free cookie, god damnit!
I thought they played like crap in the 3rd with the 1 goal lead. Joe and Craig kept talking about it, and of course they were right — you can’t play prevent for an entire period with a 1 goal lead against the Washington Capitals.
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Nov 13, 2010 10:03 PM EST up reply actions
It seemed that Bruce was throwing out three random players at a time in the third. That was weird.
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I missed most of the game since I was out of town but caught the tail end. But did notice Ovi on a line with Johansson and Knuble. And Semin with Backstrom (but I didn’t see who the other winger was — I presume Laich.)
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Twice, the 8-90-22 line was out there, and one of the forwards had the puck between his feet on the boards. Both times, neither of the other two forwards went to the boards (either high or low) to give the other guy someone to pass to. The Sabres ultimately can-openered the guy on the boards for a turnover.
I don’t understand why Ovechkin won’t cycle, even when it’s really his only play.
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Nov 13, 2010 10:22 PM EST up reply actions
And big credit to all the PKers, including Holtby, for killing the end of the 3rd and winning a point. That point gave them another day in sole possession of 1st place in the NHL.
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Nov 13, 2010 10:02 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
So this is how the win streak ends?
Give the Sabres props, they gave the Caps fits and scored the big goal when it counted. Overall it was a very poorly played game by the Caps, especially in the embarrassing and atypical second period.
I almost wished the Caps hadn’t scored first so as to be able to see their competitive fire get lit as well as the red light behind the Sabres’ goalie. It almost seemed like the Caps didn’t know what to do with the lead once they had it.
Will there be less “pressure” on the Caps tomorrow with the streak over?
Yeah right. Overall, bad night for me for hockey. Flyers and Pens both won. Blues are losing. The only good news is the fact the Hershey Bears won.
The only other good news in sports is that VA Tech beat North Carolina. (W&M lost to JMU since they have no run defense to speak of.)
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And Malkin had a 4…grrr
I like Laich, but I <3 Green
by RockinRed4Life on Nov 13, 2010 10:22 PM EST up reply actions
I’ve stopped caring about how other teams do. The Caps are going to be good enough to make the playoffs, and the only team that can beat them plays in Washington.
"Don't mind WM...he's an all-around jerk."
by Whiter Mage on Nov 13, 2010 11:45 PM EST up reply actions
They do have a wall in front of the net, and score dozens of times a game.
by red army line on Nov 14, 2010 7:42 AM EST up reply actions
if everyone chips in an observation or two
Here’s one — during regulation there were 31 shots on one end of the end of the ice, and 16 on the other. The side with 31 shots had that terrible patch of ice behind the net that caused Tyler Myers to blow a tire and cough up the puck leading to Alzner’s goal. You could tell that bad ice was really affecting the D every time they tried to take the puck behind the net to keep defensive possession. That bad ice caused a lot of turnovers, and since the Caps shot on that end twice, it helped them out quite a bit.
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Nov 13, 2010 10:07 PM EST reply actions 5 recs
I’m sure the Sabres players were pissed. They get to play in a cold city with great ice and then they have to come to DC to play on a glorified slushy all of a sudden. Had to throw off their game.
Lockout talk makes me want to go out and choke an old lady - Elliotte Friedman
And then to add insult to injury, some jerk paints the Buffalo logo at center ice so that the TV crowd believes the terrible ice was actually there!
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Nov 14, 2010 9:41 AM EST up reply actions
I thought Flash was his son.
Aim for the head baby Jesus
by Doncosmic on Nov 13, 2010 10:17 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
In a way, we were on the same track, with you suggesting Flash be replaced with the son of Boudreau and me mentioning him being benched in favor of King.
One way or another, it’s the ultimate disgrace.
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Na. The ultimate disgrace would be to make a 1 game deal with Philly to replace him With Briere for one night
The only thing keeping Fleischmann from getting a seat upstairs after this one is that Boyd Gordon is injured. Fleischmann was awful tonight, and it’s not as if he’s been lighting it up the past couple of weeks, either.
If you've read this far...seek help.
by ThePeerless on Nov 13, 2010 11:55 PM EST up reply actions
If he’s benched in favor of King tomorrow, then we’ll really know he’s in “le maison des chiens”
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So mierda is dog in Spanish!
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by CapsFan75 on Nov 13, 2010 10:21 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Indeed it is. Let’s keep the discussion on the game, shall we?
"DON'T SAY THAT! Please! That is the worst, most stupid thing anyone could say! Cause it quite clearly isn't "only a game." I mean if it was do you honestly think I'd care this much?"
by Bald Pollack on Nov 13, 2010 10:27 PM EST up reply actions
haha yeah, that looked painful.
I like Laich, but I <3 Green
by RockinRed4Life on Nov 13, 2010 10:23 PM EST up reply actions
Mean Lars is getting a little too mean here.
Nicky, we wanted some more edge to your game but there’s such a thing as too much edge. We don’t want you to become Chris Pronger.
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He has had a few boarding calls this season too…definitely getting more edgy!
I like Laich, but I <3 Green
by RockinRed4Life on Nov 13, 2010 10:27 PM EST up reply actions
Is there a major penalty in his future?
(I shudder to think of that possibility.)
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Maybe he will go Super Mean Lars and get into a fight…
I like Laich, but I <3 Green
by RockinRed4Life on Nov 13, 2010 10:35 PM EST up reply actions
I think Flash and Nikki had a bet to see who had the best helicopter impersonation tonight
Just swing your stick around and yell WEEEEEEEEEEEE
by Brainumbc on Nov 13, 2010 10:28 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Wasn’t intentional, obviously.
"Don't mind WM...he's an all-around jerk."
by Whiter Mage on Nov 13, 2010 11:46 PM EST up reply actions
Congrats Caleb Herbert. He scored the first goal tonight against Canada West in the semifinal round of the World Junior A Challenge. Team USA is up 3-1 with under 4 minutes in the 2nd period.
If they prevail tonight they will meet Canada East for the gold medal tomorrow.
U-S-A!
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by EmilyB on Nov 13, 2010 10:24 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
I like the way Canada gets two teams and the other countries get one each. Better still, I like that USA has beat both Canadas at leat once already in this tournament.
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You know, I was confusing that with the Russia series, so the multiple teams from Canada didn’t matter. Hell, that’s not fair.
"It's always good to have vikings."
4-1 at the second intermission. Hold that line, USA!
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A 5-1 win for the red white and blue.
On to the gold medal round tomorrow against Canada East. U-S-A!!!
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And in other happy prospect news, Cody scored the OT gamewinner on his Bobblehead Night. Well done, Captain Squeaks!
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by EmilyB on Nov 13, 2010 10:39 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Oh shit, it’s a replay of the BUF game right after sportsnet central. Gotta change the channel!
"It's always good to have vikings."
This is definitely not a game I want to rewatch.
I feel bad for Holtby (perfect pix choice above) given how well he played overall. But as Gould said above this game especially the end is a great learning experience for the kids.
I like how Holtby enjoys using his stick but this game certainly taught him to be quicker about it. I thought Mackan had a pretty good game too especially when he helped Holtby out. In the end four double majors just sucked the wind out of the guys. Blech!
Alright, confess-how many goals are you going to make this year?
"I'm not going to tell!"
Well can you at least guarantee fifty?
"No way. I have a different objective. To win."
by capsyoungguns on Nov 13, 2010 10:41 PM EST up reply actions
four double majors
Slight exaggeration here, my friend!
But point well taken. These 2 double minors obviously didn’t do much for our guys. Hard to generate much offense when spending too much time in the box.
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Okay, 3 double minors. Chimmer had one too. We had so many double minors that bloggers were saying it’s now a new rule — 4 minutes per penalty.
Or have our guys just gotten meaner, as of late.
Well, the Flyers are the model on how to beat trap teams. Except we’re emulating them in the wrong way.
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Chimmer’s “Double Minor” was for the bench screaming at the ref.
"Don't mind WM...he's an all-around jerk."
by Whiter Mage on Nov 13, 2010 11:47 PM EST up reply actions
Oops. Mistyped last night. Guess I should say I was majorly annoyed by the three double minors. But high sticks are high sticks, and I’d like to know what Chimmer said to get the extra. Bottom line though that many penalty minutes just wears the guys out. The question for Buffalo is why they couldn’t do more with that extra time.
Alright, confess-how many goals are you going to make this year?
"I'm not going to tell!"
Well can you at least guarantee fifty?
"No way. I have a different objective. To win."
by capsyoungguns on Nov 14, 2010 10:15 AM EST up reply actions
First period was great.
"Don't mind WM...he's an all-around jerk."
by Whiter Mage on Nov 13, 2010 11:47 PM EST up reply actions
We were at the viewing party at Hard Times in Fairfax. You could hear the air sucked out of the room when the OT goal was scored against us. They had lots of good giveaways, but we only came away with a plastic cup.
He's a better skater than Nick, but he's big in the back[side]...BB
by Backeez Got Back on Nov 13, 2010 10:46 PM EST reply actions
No surprised. I usually watch the games there and the crowd can be pretty into it, I imagine the whole place kinda deflated when that was scored. (I wasn’t there, as I figured it would be super crowded).
I like Laich, but I <3 Green
by RockinRed4Life on Nov 13, 2010 10:49 PM EST up reply actions
Hope, for your sake, there weren’t a bunch of obnoxious Buffalo fans there. I remember at least one time at VC, there were a fair number of obnoxious Buffalo fans.
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If there were any Sabre fans there – they were incognito.
He's a better skater than Nick, but he's big in the back[side]...BB
by Backeez Got Back on Nov 13, 2010 10:52 PM EST up reply actions
BB Says the second period was maybe the worst he has seen since he came here….
I mean the second was bad, but I don’t think I would go THAT far.
I like Laich, but I <3 Green
by RockinRed4Life on Nov 13, 2010 10:50 PM EST reply actions
Granted I didn’t watch the second period, but I doubt if it was the worst.
I can’t believe it was worse than the first period of the Calgary game they played this past March where they were already down 4-zip after the first period.
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Riddled with penalties, bad passes, and bad giveaways…but not like…worst ever.
I like Laich, but I <3 Green
by RockinRed4Life on Nov 13, 2010 10:54 PM EST up reply actions
Is Bruce mad enough to call Matty up from Hershey — and give him the 3rd center job tomorrow?
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I would be completely okay with this.
I like Laich, but I <3 Green
by RockinRed4Life on Nov 14, 2010 6:45 AM EST up reply actions
Aw, Braden needs a hug.
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Power Play Summary
Team PPG / PPO
Washington 0 of 1
Buffalo 1 of 7
That’s all you need to know (approx 22% of game on PK; 3% pn PP).
by Langway's Legacy on Nov 13, 2010 11:11 PM EST reply actions
So what will tomorrow’s lines look like?
Will Bruce try the following strategy?
1) Put the names of our centers in one pile.
2) Put the names of our left wingers in another pile
3) Put the names of our right wingers in a third pile
4) Draw names from each pile
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Have to say that was completely random with the lines. There is only one explanation for Bruce’s confusion with line composition:
Boyd Gordon was not available. We just haven’t found a way to be perfect without Boyd Gordon.
The wait for 10/7 begins. This man is focused. Are you?
by souldrummer on Nov 13, 2010 11:23 PM EST up reply actions
Gordo really ties the room together.
"That's hockey. You never know what's going to happen. It's a tough sport. No tooth, a broken nose, but I'm looking good [laughs]." - #8
I keep wondering if his current “foot” injury is what was ailing him earlier this year in spite of all the denials and in spite of the fact they were saying that BG was healthy and merely being “rested”.
It didn’t make sense for him to be “rested” for that long.
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Yeah, esp. since he wasn’t going to practice either…
I like Laich, but I <3 Green
by RockinRed4Life on Nov 14, 2010 6:46 AM EST up reply actions
If not for his untimely death, I would have been all for letting the psychic octopus put our lines together.
"That's hockey. You never know what's going to happen. It's a tough sport. No tooth, a broken nose, but I'm looking good [laughs]." - #8
I hear the psychic octopus is a big Ovechkin fan.
The wait for 10/7 begins. This man is focused. Are you?
by souldrummer on Nov 13, 2010 11:23 PM EST up reply actions
Paul lived longer than most other octopuses. Also, there’s a new Paul the Octopus, and he might be used for prognostication. But who knows.
"Don't mind WM...he's an all-around jerk."
by Whiter Mage on Nov 13, 2010 11:49 PM EST up reply actions
I kept thinking…dammit…we are undefeated with Gordon…just put him in!
I like Laich, but I <3 Green
by RockinRed4Life on Nov 14, 2010 11:24 AM EST up reply actions
Just attach a blade to the bottom of the cast. It will be fine.
I like Laich, but I <3 Green
by RockinRed4Life on Nov 14, 2010 1:19 PM EST up reply actions
I fell asleep and woke with 1:37 left in OT – just in time to see Holtby splay hisself.
Bears spanked the Crunch last night. Crunch goalie should have gotten the third star. Don’t see how you give it to Sabourin when he only faces 4 shots in the first period.
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