Wednesday Caps Clips: The Roster Is Set
by J.P. on Oct 6, 2010 6:50 AM EDT
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Your savory breakfast links:
- The final cuts have been made, with "bubble" players Marcus Johansson and Matt Hendricks making the team, Mathieu Perreault and Jay Beagle being sent to Hershey, and Andrew Gordon (who tweeted about being cut) and Brian Fahey (and Patrick McNeill and Steven Pinizzotto, per TSN) put on waivers, to report to Hershey if they clear. [Dump 'n Chase, Masisak, CI, CI, Leone, Frankovic, DCEx, TBD]
- More Media Day Coverage [Caps365 (video), Scalise]
- "Johansson possesses high-level experience internationally, having won two world junior championships with Sweden. He was a captain on last year's championship team." Someone ought to ask John Carlson to confirm that (and it says here zero, not two, by the way). [WaPo]
- The Caps' opening night roster will feature 11 of their own first round picks. Throw in first rounder David Steckel (a Kings draftee) and that's more than half the roster being former first rounders. Interesting, if not meaningful. [Ted's Take]
- Our own DMG asks and answers five burning questions facing the 2010-11 Caps. [SB Nation]
- Guess which Caps make the All-Underrated and - Overrated Teams? Hint: They'll likely be flanking Tomas Fleischmann on Friday night. [ESPN]
- Under, Over, Over, Under. [Puck Daddy]
- TSN's Top 50 Players ranks Alex Ovechkin second, Nicklas Backstrom ninth, Mike Green 27th and Alexander Semin 41st. Admittedly biased, I think each of those guys is slotted too low. [TSN, TSN, TSN, TSN]
- Nick Backstrom is a fantasy stud (reality, too, for what it's worth). [CBC]
- A Caps blogger roundtable in which I make a prediction that runs counter to the one I made on this site the other day. Oh well, I'm covering my bases. [D.C. Pro Sports Report]
- Is Marcus Johansson already better defensively than Matheiu Perreault, or is it all just upside? [RMNB]
- Prognosticatin' on AO's upcoming season. [Peerless]
- 'Tis the season for Caps previews. [Masisak, KOL, StC, OFB]
- Six Caps to watch in 2010-11. [SB Nation DC]
- Sasha vs. Sasha: Fists of Fury. [JtG]
- On five years of Sid and Ovie. [NHL.com]
- An interesting solution to Patchgate. [OFB]
- If you're near a radio (or, presumably, the Internet) today, a trio of Caps folks are doing radio hits: D.J. King on 1570 AM (Drew Forrester) at 8:15 am; George McPhee on ESPN 980 (John Thompson) at 2:05; and Eric Fehr on 106.7 The Fan (LaVar Arrington/Chad Dukes) at 5:00. [@SergeyCapsPR]
- Is D.C. a hockey town? [Box Seats]
- White House policy: When in Sochi, be sure to make an Alex Ovechkin joke. [Whitehouse.gov]
- Tyler Sloan and a bucket of pucks, presented without commentary. [mediachameleon]
- Michael Nylander isn't giving up on the NHL (even if it seems to have given up on him). [Democrat and Chronicle]
- A little bit of history regarding Chocolatetown netminders. [Stack the Pads]
- Milan Jurcina... ninth on the Mark Streit-less Isles depth chart? Ouch, baby. Very ouch. [Islanders Point Blank]
- Finally, happy 20th birthday to Marcus Johansson.
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John Sim
According to the Islanders Point Blank article, John Sim may go on waivers today. I say the Caps pick him up, just to keep him off every other team in the league.
by RPI93 on Oct 6, 2010 7:12 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Unless there’s something going on with Sim that I’m not aware of, like an injury or a makeup problem, I can’t see him sliding all the way to the Caps on a waiver claim.
Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?
Really? Honestly? I’ll bet he clears like crazy.
Why wouldn't you play Perreault? He's a really talented young player.
Jon Sim career vs. Caps – 28 GP, 12G, 8A
However…
2005-06: 6GP, 7G, 1A
2006-07: 7GP, 3G, 4A
2007-08: 0GP
2008-09: 3GP, 1G, 0A
2009-10: 4GP, 0G, 0A
The “curse” of Jon Sim is really only from the days when the Caps sucked. Since then he’s been pretty ineffective – I’m not too concerned, wherever he may end up.
If anyone needs me, I'll be at Kettler.
And even then, it was really only when he played against Kolzig.
by DrinkingPartner on Oct 6, 2010 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions
RMNB article
Is Marcus Johansson already better defensively than Matheiu Perreault, or is it all just upside? [RMNB]
I left a comment over there, too, but damn.
That’s a meaningless piece of analysis without context. First off, Corsi is not the same thing as scoring chances. The ratio between the two converges over about the course of a season, but he’s using the terms interchangeably. They aren’t; a scoring chance is exactly that – a situation in which there’s a good chance of scoring a goal. For example, a shot through a screen that the goalie doesn’t see, a deflection, a shot immediately following a rebound, a breakaway, these are all scoring chances. A Corsi event captures a much broader range of actions; a shot at net, blocked, missed, saved, or scored are all Corsi events. A weak wrister from 60 feet out with no traffic isn’t much of a scoring chance, but it is a Corsi event. A pass through the crease to a man with his stick partially tied-up isn’t a Corsi event, but it’s damn sure a scoring chance.
There’s nothing done to address scoring effects; teams tend to outperform their opponents in Corsi when trailing by one or two goals. The shots are taken from lower-scoring areas of the ice as a general rule, so the shot-volume (and hence Corsi) increases, but not the scoring.
There’s nothing done to address linemates, and here’s where this really falls flat; Perreault spent significant time centering Alexander Ovechkin, who’s absolutely dynamite at Corsi. Marcus Johansson had no such benefit.
I don’t see an adjustment for quality of competition or zone starts; I don’t know who was getting tougher assignments, but it’s a good bet that if Perreault was starting with AO, he was starting in the good end of the ice and staying there against opponent’s shutdown lines.
Lastly, unadjusted Corsi as a measure of how good a player is defensively? Mah teeth, they grind. Corsi events allowed against would be a better measure, but better still would be acknowledging that Corsi is a stat that works on both ends of the ice towards a common goal as a proxy for possession; how often were you taking shots against in your zone versus how often you were generating shots for in their zone. I don’t know what to call that, but defense isn’t it; that’s only one contributing factor to the larger picture.
I’m sure generating the data he did was a lot of work (I know it was, putting together that much stuff always is) and I applaud that, but the conclusions are way off base given what he has, or is showing.
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by Knee high to a duck on Oct 6, 2010 7:21 AM EDT reply actions 16 recs
Discussion like this really rubs off. After reading the article my 2 questions for RMNB was quality of comp and zone starts.
Also I didn’t read anything about both players TOI breakup. If their discussion is being made on ES values and they are just inferring that or are they including everything. I don’t have a lot of time this mourning to go browsing the internet for more valid points but in the last preseason game MP85 spent no time on the PK. MJ90 in other games played a decent amount of PK which if not accounted for can very easily lead to a biased corsi.
Bruce Boudreau when asked about Brooks Laich's return to the lineup, he said: "He just adds another dimension to our team. If it was puzzle, he just fits that thing. He completes us."
Brooks Laich completing everything from teams to tires and everything in between.
Adding onto the radio appearances, Matt Bradley will be on the Junkies at 8am today.
A very misguided piece on Huffington Post recently called 30 Rock the most racist show on television thanks to Tracy Morgan’s wild, manic, madcap performance. Tonight illustrated why whoever wrote that piece is full of shit and should be punched in the face until he has a more nuanced grasp on comedy.
A lot of the #needsmorebradley variety, but of note, with some prodding he called out Tracee Hamilton (that’s who the Junkies said wrote the article, but I can’t find it with a quick archive search) for knocking star players for skipping practice. He said that often when they don’t skate they’re working out, and that they deserve the rest because they play the big minutes. Also, he said he’d never seen her at the rink, so how could she know what goes on? Burn.
I like Tracee, and I know she’s been to Kettler a few times, but she doesn’t really know hockey. She’d admit it, though.
"It's always good to have vikings."
That was the part that stuck out to me, too. I enjoyed it in my bitter, judgmental way.
Also liked the way he talked about the playoffs, saying Halak was good but he wasn’t the reason they lost and that they didn’t play their game – refreshing to hear that kind of talk, not this “we ran into a hot goalie” crap.
If anyone needs me, I'll be at Kettler.
More on Bradley vs Hamilton, from her morning chat:
Q.matt bradley
He was on the radio this morning saying that the reason certain guys do and don’t skate in the mornings on nhl teams during the playoffs has more to do with the minutes played the night before than leadership. Since you wrote that column during the playoffs last year, do you know the standard protocol for such things on most/all nhl teams? I don’t…and he seemed to infer that you don’t really either. Care to respond?
– October 6, 2010 9:48 AMPermalink
A.Tracee Hamilton writes:
As I said, this is common during the regular season. I wrote that I thought it was wrong to do that between Game 6 and 7, when they were on the brink of elimination. And again, I stand by that. I thought it would have been a sign of leadership from Ovie to get on the ice, even for part of practice. That team was reeling. They disagree. That’s fine.
And I will say I’ve never met Matt Bradley so he might really think I’ve never been to practice. That’s fine too.
– October 6, 2010 9:55 AM
"It's always good to have vikings."
Wow…could there be a more unlikely feud than a Bradley vs. Hamilton spat? :P
If anyone needs me, I'll be at Kettler.
Topics of Annoyance
A list:
Should Ovie have practiced?
Is Semin over/underrated?
Why does everyone hate Flash?
Why are the Steckel/Erskine/Sloan contracts bad?
Belanger’s “Contract”
Anything related to lobbies/lobbying
Colin Campbell’s conflict of interest
Chris Bourque (guilty)
The “OH” and “RED” during the anthem
What did I miss?
'Cause the end of what it was is what it is right now...
MP for 2C
Gordon won’t clear waivers
(going top of mind, here)
Why wouldn't you play Perreault? He's a really talented young player.
Beat me to those. I’d add:
Damien Cox is an Ass
Ovie vs. Crosby
Green is out of shape
Schultz skates too slow
We need a better stay-at-home D
I won’t buy the WC jersey because of the darn patch
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I’m right there with you on the Damien Cox one. The less I hear about him and his freaking book, the better.
'Cause the end of what it was is what it is right now...
by D'ohboy on Oct 6, 2010 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
…at least he’s pushed Mike Wise out of the discussion.
Lockout talk makes me want to go out and choke an old lady - Elliotte Friedman
oh joy, he’s back from his suspension just in time for hockey season.
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i’m not particularly fond of:
mike wise is an ass
mike wilbon is an ass
tony kornheiser is an ass
steinz is an ass
WaPo should cover the caps more
buccigross is a pens homer
ESPN sucks
by Natty Bumppo on Oct 6, 2010 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Add to that
Corey is infallible
Why wouldn't you play Perreault? He's a really talented young player.
by jordanDC on Oct 6, 2010 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
like when? i can run a quick search on “ESPN sucks” and find you two dozen comments, easy. complimenting corey in specific instances vs. implying he can do no wrong = very different things.
people imply that pundits “can do no right” all the time, though.
by Natty Bumppo on Oct 6, 2010 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions
No one thinks Corey is infallible. He is, after all, a Penguins fan.
He’s also by far the best Washington hockey writer, and one of the best anywhere, though.
Yeah, I don’t recall anyone voicing any concerns over his work or the praise thereof (though I would note that in this very comment section I countered points he was making on Twitter yesterday).
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Disagree on that. I think you guys are too close to him sometimes for objectivity. That’s my opinion and you can deny it if it suits you.
So having a contrary opinion is trolling? Responding to someone who purposefully gave a literal response to a figurative comment is trolling?
by Seminrocks on Oct 6, 2010 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I don’t think there was anything wrong with my response. You claimed I was too close to the guy to be objective, but I don’t even know him. I don’t speak with him, email him, or call him. My opinion of his work is based solely on his work, not how I feel about him personally, because I don’t have any personal feelings about the guy.
After this, Corey’s gonna have to write in his journal:
“Dear Diary,
Sometimes I think that David Getz doesn’t even know who I am. I feel so invisible sometimes. He’s never going to ask me to the dance.
Love,
Corey"
'Cause the end of what it was is what it is right now...
by D'ohboy on Oct 6, 2010 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions 8 recs
I certainly wouldn’t deny or hide my friendship with the guy, but just because we’re pals doesn’t say anything about his work. What are the problems you have with his work product?
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Oh, duh. Nevermind. Corey has had the audacity to criticize Alex Semin in the past.
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by J.P. on Oct 6, 2010 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Personal bias!!!1
A very misguided piece on Huffington Post recently called 30 Rock the most racist show on television thanks to Tracy Morgan’s wild, manic, madcap performance. Tonight illustrated why whoever wrote that piece is full of shit and should be punched in the face until he has a more nuanced grasp on comedy.
by Bald Pollack on Oct 6, 2010 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions
I will say, this is something about Corey that has bugged me in the past – I get that not everyone’s a Semin fan, and he drives me crazy at times, too, but Corey’s pretty vocal about it and very quick to criticize when Semin does any little thing wrong. Other guys, not so much.
There are times he deserves it for sure; not always, though.
…/personal opinion
If anyone needs me, I'll be at Kettler.
I noticed that in his Caps preview, today, that he was very critical of Semin, but wasn’t going to bother bringing it up unless someone else did :-P.
by DrinkingPartner on Oct 6, 2010 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions
I worked in journalism and PR before, my parents were newspaper people, and let me just say that there are times when I question his journalistic objectivity as I learned it. Certainly, times have changed some, especially with the advent of blogging and other instant communications, but the overall writing quality and attention to some details is less than I expect. This is true of others, as well, and was of TEB at times, too, but more so for me with Corey. Let’s just leave it at that.
Let’s just leave it at vague generalities. Uh huh…
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by J.P. on Oct 6, 2010 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yes, you can always throw that out there. Those who see it know what I mean. I don’t have to prove anything to you. It will not change my view, nor yours.
If you’re going to attack someone vaguely in a discussion forum like this you actually do kind of have to prove it.
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by SmallZ827 on Oct 6, 2010 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions 7 recs
I have no idea what you mean…and regardless of how everyone feels…am curious.
IMO, Corey is the best hockey reporter based in this area. Like someone else mentioned, I’m sometimes frustrated by the spelling and grammar (I’m in no position to judge) mistakes…I still believe he’s miles above the competition, especially now that TEB has departed.
The one major thing I’ve seen with Corey, and it’s only been this way since he moved over to CSN, has been a tendency for typos and the occasional grammatical mistake.
'Cause the end of what it was is what it is right now...
I would presume that’s because he had an editor at the Times and no longer does at CSN. Just my logic.
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How can you be a professional writer and make so many mistakes? I’d feel terrible about myself if I published something with obvious mistakes.
by DrinkingPartner on Oct 6, 2010 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions
BS. I had papers due all the time and I made sure I didn’t look like a fool.
by DrinkingPartner on Oct 6, 2010 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions
Right, but a paper that you’re getting graded on – and is done as a one-time thing – is a bit different than constantly having to file pieces as fast as possible, and for which one typo won’t get you fired.
Believe me, typos in journalism in general drive me NUTS. I took great exception to TEB’s constant typos and Corey’s bug me, too, even in tweets. But I get it (somewhat) and don’t hold it against him.
Much.
If anyone needs me, I'll be at Kettler.
Articles by their very nature should be proofed before going out, though. It’s the fact that nearly every article has something wrong with it that gets me. It’s not an every once in a while thing.
by DrinkingPartner on Oct 6, 2010 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions
Because writers have editors. I’m a professional writer, and before something goes to print, it is reviewed by many different people (editors, copy editors, proofreaders). I suspect that, unlike the Post, CSN doesn’t hire many or hire very good ones.
Or hire any, for that matter. And if you’re in an environment like the googles (where sometimes time figures more into the environment), there might be a typo here and there.
A very misguided piece on Huffington Post recently called 30 Rock the most racist show on television thanks to Tracy Morgan’s wild, manic, madcap performance. Tonight illustrated why whoever wrote that piece is full of shit and should be punched in the face until he has a more nuanced grasp on comedy.
by Bald Pollack on Oct 6, 2010 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions
But how can you not read something you’ve just written? That’d be like not tasting something you’ve just cooked. It’s silly.
by DrinkingPartner on Oct 6, 2010 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
You can read something and still miss typos, especially in the long stories Corey does. I know I’ve had times I’ve written something and read it through three times and still missed ’em.
It happens, no question, but the rate at which it happens for him makes it seem like carelessness.
by DrinkingPartner on Oct 6, 2010 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions
It’s not carelessness. Some people are much better at being detail-oriented like that than others. A lot of people are perfectly capable writers, but when reading something that they’ve just written, they fail to notice mistakes because they don’t actually read but instead just remember what they’ve written.
I’m that way, personally. I have to let something I’ve written sit for a day or two before I turn it in, or otherwise there will be typos that I won’t notice. Thankfully, I have the luxury (sometimes) of getting stuff done early enough that I can do that.
by Wheeler on Oct 6, 2010 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I understand what you’re saying, but I have difficulty applying that to professional situations. Like I said just a few comments below to BP, I can’t believe that something like this had to be a rush job (he could have been rushed while writing it, sure, but couldn’t it just as easily have gone live tomorrow morning?) and that its particular unfinished-like quality seems closer to the rule, rather than the exception. He’s constantly playfully dinged for typos (and I really don’t care, I’m more devil’s advocating than anything), and, I’m just saying as a reader, they occur all too often to be explained away. He trends Sasha while writing.
by DrinkingPartner on Oct 6, 2010 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions
Especially if it’s fresh in your mind, your brain will see what it thinks it should see.
"Do you see my fist? It was fists like these that built quaint Canadian cities out of the harsh Canadian wilderness, etc. etc."
Not in Seattle anymore.
by SeattleCapsFan on Oct 6, 2010 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions
I can type something, read it and read it aloud a second time out loud and still miss a thing or two.
A very misguided piece on Huffington Post recently called 30 Rock the most racist show on television thanks to Tracy Morgan’s wild, manic, madcap performance. Tonight illustrated why whoever wrote that piece is full of shit and should be punched in the face until he has a more nuanced grasp on comedy.
by Bald Pollack on Oct 6, 2010 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions
Has every single paper you’ve ever turned in been completely free of typographical or grammatical errors?
'Cause the end of what it was is what it is right now...
It is practially impossible to effectively edit something you wrote. You know what it’s supposed to say, so that’s what you see. Editors (and I am one) are perceived as expendable in many cases, so they tend to get cut disproportionately when there’s a layoff or hiring freeze.
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by CapitalCentre on Oct 6, 2010 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions
Editing would be fun.
And I agree, it’s tough to edit yourself, but is this saying it’s acceptable to put out less-than work just because he doesn’t have his editor-crutch anymore?
by DrinkingPartner on Oct 6, 2010 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions
Some things that rhyme with Corey:
Story,
Glory,
Allegory,
Montessori…
'Cause the end of what it was is what it is right now...
by D'ohboy on Oct 6, 2010 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
is this saying it’s acceptable to put out less-than work just because he doesn’t have his editor-crutch anymore?
Nope — just that I don’t necessarily blame Corey for not being an effective editor of his own work. I guess blame lies with CSN.
Six Beers Too Many fantasy team: It's Neu-virth Than Usual
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by CapitalCentre on Oct 6, 2010 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions
It happens, particularly if you’re under a deadline. Admittedly, the things I write tend to be much, much longer, but then I’ve also got much more time to write them.
Even the best editors miss stuff. I imagine Corey’s lucky if he’s got a couple of people glancing at his posts before he puts them up. More likely, it’s just his eyeballs and spell-check.
'Cause the end of what it was is what it is right now...
But his pieces aren’t long, and it shouldn’t take him half an hour to proof something he just wrote.
by DrinkingPartner on Oct 6, 2010 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions
Glass houses and stones.
I’m sorry, but I’m just not buying that you’ve never had a typo. It happens. It’s just that there’s usually a safety net (editors and proofers) to catch it.
'Cause the end of what it was is what it is right now...
I’m going to blame the Pittsburgh school systems.
by brs03 on Oct 6, 2010 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Lame. You don’t think we could all be painted with DC-based stereotypes?
Lockout talk makes me want to go out and choke an old lady - Elliotte Friedman
Shut geek-faced lawyer-boy, overeducated sissy know-it-all.
'Cause the end of what it was is what it is right now...
Someone didn’t proof read! Where’s DP when you need him?
"Do you see my fist? It was fists like these that built quaint Canadian cities out of the harsh Canadian wilderness, etc. etc."
Not in Seattle anymore.
by SeattleCapsFan on Oct 6, 2010 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Let’s sake (for the sake of arguments) he takes his time, has an editor proof it before it posts. By then, the story might be gone.
Next thing you know he’s becoming any of the WaPo writers, but without a travel budget.
A very misguided piece on Huffington Post recently called 30 Rock the most racist show on television thanks to Tracy Morgan’s wild, manic, madcap performance. Tonight illustrated why whoever wrote that piece is full of shit and should be punched in the face until he has a more nuanced grasp on comedy.
by Bald Pollack on Oct 6, 2010 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions
But for something like his preview? Where it doesn’t matter how fast because of the 7 other people in the region doing it? I understand if it’s a BREAKING NEWS situation, because he’s literally going as fast as his fingers will let him. But for a story feature? It doesn’t fly with me. Again, it seems like carelessness.
by DrinkingPartner on Oct 6, 2010 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions
I’d presume that whatever other writers do locally doesn’t impact what he does, but I’m speaking as an online writer that has a similar situation. Agree to disagree I suppose.
A very misguided piece on Huffington Post recently called 30 Rock the most racist show on television thanks to Tracy Morgan’s wild, manic, madcap performance. Tonight illustrated why whoever wrote that piece is full of shit and should be punched in the face until he has a more nuanced grasp on comedy.
by Bald Pollack on Oct 6, 2010 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions
Objectivity I could see, I suppose, especially when it comes to Semin, but other than that, I don’t know. I’ve always found Corey to be a good writer, especially for his medium (he’s succinct without losing anything), he produces a ton of good content, he breaks news early, he knows the Caps in and out, and knows a lot about the rest of the league too….I think his attention to detail and writing quality are excellent.
It always amazed me that, despite the relative standings of their newspapers in this town, Corey always always always had the scoop before TEB.
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It always amazed me that nobody considered maybe the processes of the two papers differ in terms of gaining approval to publish information, or any other number of factors that we can’t possibly know.
This is like saying “Backstrom should be captain because he seems like he would be good in the locker room.” We can’t know.
Why wouldn't you play Perreault? He's a really talented young player.
Unless we do.
And I’ll save you the typing: “Ok.”
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That said, I disagree with the characterization – TEB often had scoop before Corey, especially higher-level stuff, as I think he had better contacts (not surprising, given the relative tenures of the two).
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I have considerd that. And considering that Corey rarely published false information, you’d think maybe the WaPo would want to get on top of that. Whether it’s on the journalist or on the red tape at their organization, it still reflects badly on both, regardless.
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Can we please agree that this is annoying too:
Semin has a funny last name and I’m going to use it to make a poorly constructed double entendre.
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by bilspacecadet on Oct 6, 2010 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Not funny, unless you’re Matt Bradley.
"Do you see my fist? It was fists like these that built quaint Canadian cities out of the harsh Canadian wilderness, etc. etc."
Not in Seattle anymore.
by SeattleCapsFan on Oct 6, 2010 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Eh, the Belanger thing is still new, so for me it’s not quite yet list worthy.
"Do you see my fist? It was fists like these that built quaint Canadian cities out of the harsh Canadian wilderness, etc. etc."
Not in Seattle anymore.
by SeattleCapsFan on Oct 6, 2010 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions
Shouldn’t “Complaining about things people complain about” be on the list?
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by J.P. on Oct 6, 2010 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions 8 recs
Same category as “your argument is invalid because it’s too emotional and doesn’t use any analytics.”
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Nothing like being bitter about people being bitter about people being bitter, eh?
Soon the Championship with be ours, all ours!
Um…we’re Caps fans, I thought being bitter and being bitter about people being bitter and being bitter about people being bitter about people being bitter was what we did.
I mean, if it’s not I need to find a new team. Bitterness cycles were why I signed on.
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by Becca H on Oct 6, 2010 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I like the new avatar.
"Do you see my fist? It was fists like these that built quaint Canadian cities out of the harsh Canadian wilderness, etc. etc."
Not in Seattle anymore.
by SeattleCapsFan on Oct 6, 2010 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions
They ought to.
'Cause the end of what it was is what it is right now...
by D'ohboy on Oct 6, 2010 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Haha, that is fantastic.
"Do you see my fist? It was fists like these that built quaint Canadian cities out of the harsh Canadian wilderness, etc. etc."
Not in Seattle anymore.
by SeattleCapsFan on Oct 6, 2010 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Nazem Kadri is Urdu for “mottled bollocks”.
Is Jeff Schultz any good?
Sidney Crysby is a pussy/diver/tenant/favorite child of Bettman.
Things Eric Fehr did to the coach.
A few of my own peeves.
Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?
by fat_daddyo on Oct 6, 2010 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
…k I know you’re just outlining your annoyances, and this is just a personal thing, but I’d love to never see the p-word show up on this site again.
Unless it actually refers to a feline, of course.
If anyone needs me, I'll be at Kettler.
by Becca H on Oct 6, 2010 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Amen, sister.
"Do you see my fist? It was fists like these that built quaint Canadian cities out of the harsh Canadian wilderness, etc. etc."
Not in Seattle anymore.
by SeattleCapsFan on Oct 6, 2010 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions
Ach, my bad. I actually meant to spell it with a “w”. I’m really sorry, Becca.
Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?
Strange I share my view and I get the “behave or we will throw you out message” and you type this
"Do you smell that? It's napalm, son. Nothing else on the world smells like that. I love the smell of napalm in the morning. Y'know, once we had a hail bomb....12 hours....and when it was all over I walked up. We didn't find one of them, not one stinking dink body. The smell, y'know that gasoline smell, that whole hell. Smells like........ Victory. Some day this war's gonna end."
- Lieutenant Colonel Kilgore.
daddyo has some leeway because he’s a regular contributer, and he was aware that there was a problem with what he typed.
"Now wait a minute. This is just purely a social call. You know, just two adults getting a stew on, man."
by The Ghost of Bebop on Oct 6, 2010 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions
Single-word posts that add nothing (“this”, “Ok”)
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Oct 6, 2010 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions 8 recs
Is that a topic though?
I was trying to capture topics where almost everything that can be said has already been said, so there’s really nothing left to them other than circular arguments that seem to drag on endlessly.
'Cause the end of what it was is what it is right now...
Circular arguments that drag on endlessly? Shut yo’ mouth. Everyone loves Keynes v. Friedman.
Lockout talk makes me want to go out and choke an old lady - Elliotte Friedman
by Rob Parker on Oct 6, 2010 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I’d like to think there’s a bit of thesis-antithesis-synthesis going on in some of our arguments though. We usually reach some kind of consensus by the end that is different than where we both began.
'Cause the end of what it was is what it is right now...
by D'ohboy on Oct 6, 2010 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Rec’d for truth.
A very misguided piece on Huffington Post recently called 30 Rock the most racist show on television thanks to Tracy Morgan’s wild, manic, madcap performance. Tonight illustrated why whoever wrote that piece is full of shit and should be punched in the face until he has a more nuanced grasp on comedy.
I’ll change to “You win,” since that’s what a lot of folks seem to want to hear.
Why wouldn't you play Perreault? He's a really talented young player.
How about “Scissor me timbers” instead?
'Cause the end of what it was is what it is right now...
by D'ohboy on Oct 6, 2010 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
I think what they really want to hear is a well-articulated justification for your position.
Lockout talk makes me want to go out and choke an old lady - Elliotte Friedman
by Rob Parker on Oct 6, 2010 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
I think the OK just seems more like a kid taking his ball and going home while trying to still get the last word in.
Think twice before you speak, and then you may be able to say something more insulting than if you spoke right out at once.
by zephyr on Oct 6, 2010 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
New addition:
Arguments over typos.
Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?
by fat_daddyo on Oct 6, 2010 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
shouldn’t that be “argument’s”?
We're Hüsker Dü and we're on MTV. Who are you, and what are you on?
by bilspacecadet on Oct 6, 2010 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions
I honestly was going to type something like this but thankfully continued reading first.
Alright, confess-how many goals are you going to make this year?
"I'm not going to tell!"
Well can you at least guarantee fifty?
"No way. I have a different objective. To win."
by capsyoungguns on Oct 6, 2010 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions
And I will say I’ve never met Matt Bradley so he might really think I’ve never been to practice. That’s fine too.
She “covers” the Capitals for the WP and has never met Matt Bradley? Maybe she should try out one of those personal appearance things the players do if her journalistic credentials have prevented her from meeting a guy who has been on the team since 2005.
I believe in JC.
She doesn’t “cover” the Capitals and she’s only been writing for about a year (she’s a columnist and used to be an editor). But if she’s been to Kettler more than once, she should familiarize herself with the team.
"It's always good to have vikings."
heck, I’m pretty sure she’s been out there with Steinberg, who I think has a mandatory one Bradley quote minimum in every Caps article/bog post clause written into his contract.
Watching the O’s try to use strategy is like watching Mike Green trying to figure out the difference between "your" and "you’re"--Terpgrrl
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They didn’t play their game? What exactly is their game if that wasn’t it? They stubbornly played their game and got burned, from where I was sitting. In retrospect, that game 2 comeback/game 3 blowout probably wasn’t the greatest because it reinforced what they already believed: that they could turn it on and outscore anyone.
Lockout talk makes me want to go out and choke an old lady - Elliotte Friedman
I could be having a moment of senility but I believe he actually referenced that game, as well, saying they had to come from behind in that one and could easily have been down 0-2.
And he said they didn’t play their SYSTEM, I paraphrased it into game, he said that the coaches outlined a plan for them and they didn’t execute. Montreal stuck to their system. The Caps didn’t. I don’t know what you were watching but they didn’t look like they were playing Caps hockey to me.
If anyone needs me, I'll be at Kettler.
They didn’t look like they were playing Caps hockey because Montreal wouldn’t let them. The Habs did a fantastic job of taking away the space and shutting down the killer offense. Caps lost because they refused to play any thing other than their game.
"Do you see my fist? It was fists like these that built quaint Canadian cities out of the harsh Canadian wilderness, etc. etc."
Not in Seattle anymore.
by SeattleCapsFan on Oct 6, 2010 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Hamilton Article
This was the article:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/04/28/AR2010042806259.html?nav=emailpage
(Yes, I know about the avatar hounding - just pretend mine is invisible.)
So did we trade Eric Belanger yet?
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Oct 6, 2010 7:25 AM EDT reply actions
Must have missed it; nobody had to change their sigs to indicate they weren’t in his “lobby” anymore.
A very misguided piece on Huffington Post recently called 30 Rock the most racist show on television thanks to Tracy Morgan’s wild, manic, madcap performance. Tonight illustrated why whoever wrote that piece is full of shit and should be punched in the face until he has a more nuanced grasp on comedy.
by Bald Pollack on Oct 6, 2010 7:31 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
There was a Belanger Lobby?
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Oct 6, 2010 7:32 AM EDT up reply actions
It wouldn’t surprise me. Oh well, CP2 can follow his exploits this year now.
A very misguided piece on Huffington Post recently called 30 Rock the most racist show on television thanks to Tracy Morgan’s wild, manic, madcap performance. Tonight illustrated why whoever wrote that piece is full of shit and should be punched in the face until he has a more nuanced grasp on comedy.
Tyler Sloan and a bucket of pucks, presented without commentary. [mediachameleon]
Hahaha! Outstanding. Great picture, too.
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by Knee high to a duck on Oct 6, 2010 7:38 AM EDT reply actions
Hi all, actually my first comment. I’ve been meaning to register for some time now, and have been following discussions here at Japers and a number of Caps blogs for some time now.
Thanks for having me, and here’s to a great season.
by Truculence on Oct 6, 2010 7:58 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Thanks for joining and welcome aboard!
A very misguided piece on Huffington Post recently called 30 Rock the most racist show on television thanks to Tracy Morgan’s wild, manic, madcap performance. Tonight illustrated why whoever wrote that piece is full of shit and should be punched in the face until he has a more nuanced grasp on comedy.
Welcome!
May I suggest an avatar — perhaps something like this…
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Oct 6, 2010 8:55 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
(Also, if you do a google image search for “truculence” you get some really nasty stuff)
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Oct 6, 2010 8:57 AM EDT up reply actions
no kidding… but the pic of the pug with those plastic vampire teeth in its mouth is quite funny (though cruel).
by ThreePingPost on Oct 6, 2010 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions
....
Or this
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Oct 6, 2010 8:58 AM EDT up reply actions
Late add to Clips – Corey’s preview at Sporting News.
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Also:
[Ilya Kovalchuk] Is the only NHL player to record at least 40 goals in each of the last five seasons.
Maybe they mean each of the last 6, or something. Because if these totals look familiar (52, 46, 65, 56, 50), there’s at least one more player.
"Essentially, all models are wrong, but some are useful" George E.P. Box
by Knee high to a duck on Oct 6, 2010 8:42 AM EDT reply actions
It’s terrible when you use copy from last year and forget to update…
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Oct 6, 2010 8:57 AM EDT up reply actions
Lots of that, apparently. Like Backstrom:
Has121189 career assists.
"It's always good to have vikings."
And…
First player in more than a decade to win consecutive Hart Trophies and has scored 26 more goals than any other NHLer in the past two seasons.
Try 22. But if we look at 2007-08 and 08-09… bingo.
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That whole list is full of fail.
Of course this would be my example; but Seabrook ahead of Suter? Blech.
You mean British Columbia’s Brent Seabrook is ahead of Wisconsin’s Ryan Suter? Get out.
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Some of that is also because one is on a Cup winner, I’m sure.
Why wouldn't you play Perreault? He's a really talented young player.
And he breathes the same air as Duncan Keith, who died for our sins.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Oct 6, 2010 9:43 AM EDT up reply actions 8 recs
I prefer the man that killed for our sins.
Lockout talk makes me want to go out and choke an old lady - Elliotte Friedman
by Rob Parker on Oct 6, 2010 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Heatley?
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by Bman21212 on Oct 6, 2010 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Chara’s head and shoulders above Green. There’s just no comparison.
Oh, wait, you were talking about hockey ability? Yeah, Green is better.
by Wheeler on Oct 6, 2010 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions 8 recs
I was at the game on Sunday and my brain had a huge fight with Wes (the PA announcer) because he said “Ryan SUH-ter” and I’ve always read it as “Ryan SOO-ter.” One of those times when only ever reading a word/name in print comes back to bite you.
Eat, drink, and be merry! And then drink some more.
Yeah Wes kept going with “SUH-ter”.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Oct 6, 2010 9:47 AM EDT up reply actions
Yup, I remember – it bugged me, too. There are just some names that, bless his heart, Wes can’t pronounce correctly. Odd that it would be a simpler one like that but I can see how one would read “S-U-T-E-R” and automatically think “SUTTER”.
…but yeah, it’s Sooooooter.
If anyone needs me, I'll be at Kettler.
I like when Wes reads the text message examples. He got confused by one on Sunday that still has Mrs. YLM and I laughing.
“so uh….stop posin’”
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Oct 6, 2010 9:51 AM EDT up reply actions
It happened in both intermissions. I don’t remember exactly the text of the other one, but you’d think he’d pick one of the more vanilla ones that says “Hi Kelly I think you’re great love greg.” And yet, he never fails to pick “ovi and me be straight ballin’ so you betta step.”
Eat, drink, and be merry! And then drink some more.
It’s not Soo-ter? I always thought it was. Same thing bothered me Sunday at the game.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Oct 6, 2010 9:47 AM EDT up reply actions
TSN’s Top 50 Players ranks Alex Ovechkin second, Nicklas Backstrom ninth, Mike Green 27th and Alexander Semin 41st. Admittedly biased, I think each of those guys is slotted too low.
But Crosby has a Cup! And a Gold Medal!
In all seriousness though, I was actually pretty surprised Malkin was ranked so high. He’s fantastic, but only when he shows up (which isn’t all the time). I wonder what this list will look like a few years from now, after Backstrom has a few more knock out seasons and the rest of the world sees in him what we all see.
"Do you see my fist? It was fists like these that built quaint Canadian cities out of the harsh Canadian wilderness, etc. etc."
He gets bonus points for being on the same team as Sid. His aura is worth 10 points in their rankings.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Oct 6, 2010 8:55 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
And Nicky loses points for being on the same team as Ovi. Sid makes everyone better whereas Ovi’s coattails are reeaallly looooong.
Alright, confess-how many goals are you going to make this year?
"I'm not going to tell!"
Well can you at least guarantee fifty?
"No way. I have a different objective. To win."
by capsyoungguns on Oct 6, 2010 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions
He did win a scoring title, a Calder, and a Conn Smythe. The guy is a really, really good player.
And remember only 2 years ago when everyone was jumping on the Malkin is better than Crosby bandwagon.
He has good years and bad years – he’s like a slightly more consistent and more talented version of Semin. And perhaps he should be in the top 10, but after posting “just” 77 points (for a guy capable of cracking 100) I find it hard to believe that he’s better than Backstrom at this point.
If anyone needs me, I'll be at Kettler.
Is he really more consistent, or is he just more consistenly healthy? I seem to recall some talk about him running hot and cold.
"It's always good to have vikings."
He’s been much more consistent in the playoffs, hence his Conn Smythe. But IIRC last year he was all over the map.
"Do you see my fist? It was fists like these that built quaint Canadian cities out of the harsh Canadian wilderness, etc. etc."
Not in Seattle anymore.
by SeattleCapsFan on Oct 6, 2010 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions
I did say relatively. He wasn’t as big a factor in the first two rounds as his points would suggest. Crosby was the big factor there, Malkin picked it up later.
Just because he only scored more points once doesn’t mean he wasn’t a bigger factor in those first two rounds.
The guy is Peter Schumpmaker. Lord knows what a schump is, but you can bet your bippy his ancestors made them. What he's doing is far worse than crafting fine schumps.
by Steckel Me Elmo on Oct 6, 2010 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions
In the 1st round, Malkin did have 4 G, 5 A. In the 2nd round, it was 2 G, 8 A. Crosby had 4 G, 4 A in the 1st round, 8 G, 5 A in the 2nd round. In the 1st round, it looks like he was just as much of a factor as Crosby – although not in the 2nd. In the last two rounds, Malkin clearly outperformed Crosby – which is a lot of the reason he got the Conn Smythe.
Never underrate the power of the hissy-cow.
I’m not debating whether or not he earned the the Conn Smythe, or that he, overall, outperformed Crosby. I’m just pointing out that points don’t necessarily tell the whole story of how much of an influence one player had on a series or game.
The guy is Peter Schumpmaker. Lord knows what a schump is, but you can bet your bippy his ancestors made them. What he's doing is far worse than crafting fine schumps.
by Steckel Me Elmo on Oct 6, 2010 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions
I’d say hes consistent, but last season was curtailed due to injury.
He scored 77 points in 65 games — and of those 65 games, he played hurt in about 10 of them. His previous two years he scored 106 and 113 points. I don’t think there’s much inconsistency there.
If he’s healthy, he’s a top-4 center in the league.
Forgot about the injuries last year, so that’s valid. I still don’t think I’d put him at #3.
"Do you see my fist? It was fists like these that built quaint Canadian cities out of the harsh Canadian wilderness, etc. etc."
Not in Seattle anymore.
by SeattleCapsFan on Oct 6, 2010 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions
“Just” 77 points in “just” 67 games, though. And for a good portion of the start of that, he was playing with a hurt wrist. Dan Bylsma made him sit out after he confronted Malkin in the locker room and Malkin couldn’t rotate a stick 360 degrees with one hand.
Just like Adam Banks!
Why wouldn't you play Perreault? He's a really talented young player.
by jordanDC on Oct 6, 2010 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Two seasons ago, Malkin was better. That’s not the case anymore, certainly. Malkin was a finalist for MVP and for the then Pearson (now Linsday) award as the NHLPA’s best player as voted on by the players. Sid wasn’t.
Since then, Sid’s game has gotten better and Malkin hasn’t improved much at all, not that he needs to since he was (and is) already one of the best players in the league.
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Oct 6, 2010 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Even though he’s just a shill for the owner (h/t D. Cox), I thought Vogel’s column was pretty much on the mark. As soon as Hendricks was signed, it pretty much was the death knell for A. Gordon. Gordon may have more upside, but Hendricks brings something this team really needs; a veteran player with an edge to his game. And on reflection, choosing MarJo over Perrault was a no-brainer. Marcus brings more size, speed and defensive skills to the game which is really what you want in a #3 center. And we shouldn’t underestimate the Backstrom factor in Johansson getting the final nod. Like doves, Swedes and Russians work better in pairs and having Nick there to take Marcus under his wing probably played a bit of a role in the final decision.
by b.orr4 on Oct 6, 2010 8:59 AM EDT reply actions 2 recs
I have to admit, I’m not completely sold on Laich as an underrated player, and I think a lot of it comes from the fact that people like the guy and his style of play, and perhaps that he’s even veering into ‘so underrated he’s overrated’ terrotory. Take the blurb from the ESPN article for example:
Brooks Laich, Washington: A heart-and-soul guy playing with the high-skill set in Washington, Laich doesn’t get the recognition his play suggests is his due. He even helped change a woman’s flat tire after the Caps were eliminated in Game 7 last spring.
Okay, he’s a heart and soul guy – great. He’s a nice enough guy to help a stranger change a tire after a gut-wrenching loss – awesome. But nothing in that couple of sentences makes a case for why Laich is underrated.
I think Laich’s a hell of a guy and a very useful player, and I love having him on the Caps, but he’s not a great scorer or playmaker, doesn’t produce that much at even strength, and is just okay defensively. He’s an okay second liner or good third liner, and I think that’s how he’s viewed.
by David Getz on Oct 6, 2010 9:08 AM EDT reply actions 9 recs
I think Laich’s spot on that list is more b/c he’s under-reported or less known on the team with so many other bigger names.
LET'S GO CAPS!!!
indeed, after looking at the list, maybe they were looking for “unheralded,” at least by ESPN/MSM.
oh burnside….words, they have meanings.
by Natty Bumppo on Oct 6, 2010 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions
You know I agree with you. And I don’t want to cast too big a net here, but sometimes “underrated” is subtle code for “North American” and “overrated” the same for “European.” Of ESPN’s “underrated” guys, 10 of the 12 (by my count) are North Americans. Of their “overrated” guys, the top four forwards listed are European.
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by J.P. on Oct 6, 2010 9:15 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I think that plays a role. For the last several years I’ve felt like there are a decent number of people who think “North American, plays hard, plays without a visor, not an elite offensive player – he must be a quality defensive player!”
I think it’s become the stereotype that “European” = fancy, skilled and “North American” = Gritty, Ecksteinian. Been that way for a LONG time though.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Oct 6, 2010 9:23 AM EDT up reply actions
I wonder if Mama Ruutu wears a Muu Muu?
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Oct 6, 2010 9:27 AM EDT up reply actions
IDK, but I’ll bet Mama Ruutu orders a Pu-Pu platter when she goes to Chinatown.
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I bet Mama Ruutu wears that Muu Muu while enjoying that Pu Pu Platter while listening to Kajagoogoo.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Oct 6, 2010 9:33 AM EDT up reply actions
I dream of a Ruutu-Tootoo-Cheechoo line.
by Wheeler on Oct 6, 2010 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Hearkens back to Recchi-Recci-Reekie
Why wouldn't you play Perreault? He's a really talented young player.
Or Sedin-Sedin-Sundin…
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Or McCreary’s theme song… koo koo ka-choo!
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Fin.
A very misguided piece on Huffington Post recently called 30 Rock the most racist show on television thanks to Tracy Morgan’s wild, manic, madcap performance. Tonight illustrated why whoever wrote that piece is full of shit and should be punched in the face until he has a more nuanced grasp on comedy.
by Bald Pollack on Oct 6, 2010 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
First thing I noticed when I looked at that list was the disparity between Europeans and North Americans.
Same thing with TSN’s list
Where countries of origin are concerned, the Great White North led the way with 27 players, followed by Sweden with eight, five players from Russia and four Americans. Rounding out the list are Slovakia (three), Finland (2) and Slovenia (one). The 27 Canadian players represent 54 percent of the list, which is directly proportionate to the number of Canadians in the NHL last season (Canadians comprised 55 percent of those who played at least one game in NHL in 2009-10).
Also, 19 of Canada’s 23 gold-medal winning Olympians from the 2010 Games made the Top 50.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Oct 6, 2010 9:18 AM EDT up reply actions
You’re not implying that there’s a Canadian media bias, are you? Damien Cox has already told us that doesn’t exist.
I mean, anything’s possible. Jose Bautista could even be on steroids.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Oct 6, 2010 9:22 AM EDT up reply actions
I propose a boycott of all things Da. Co.. Including using his name.
The more we talk about him, the more attention he gets.
None of which he deserves. Lets just deny his existence and never utter his name.
Objections?
I am a hockey fan first, and a Caps fan second.
by iwearstripes on Oct 6, 2010 9:33 AM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
But then how will we make our snarky retread comments?
Why wouldn't you play Perreault? He's a really talented young player.
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A very misguided piece on Huffington Post recently called 30 Rock the most racist show on television thanks to Tracy Morgan’s wild, manic, madcap performance. Tonight illustrated why whoever wrote that piece is full of shit and should be punched in the face until he has a more nuanced grasp on comedy.
hah, what is that clip from?
Because now I can justify browsing and commenting during the work day with the argument that I am promoting my business.
by Sombrero Guy on Oct 6, 2010 10:01 AM EDT up reply actions
No clue, just needed an excuse to post a funny approval.
A very misguided piece on Huffington Post recently called 30 Rock the most racist show on television thanks to Tracy Morgan’s wild, manic, madcap performance. Tonight illustrated why whoever wrote that piece is full of shit and should be punched in the face until he has a more nuanced grasp on comedy.
by Bald Pollack on Oct 6, 2010 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions
First, I agree with you regarding Laich…but I was more surprised to see Semin lumped in with the other names on the “overrated” list.
Yup. He definitely leaves something to be desired, but overrated is overstating it.
"Do you see my fist? It was fists like these that built quaint Canadian cities out of the harsh Canadian wilderness, etc. etc."
Not in Seattle anymore.
by SeattleCapsFan on Oct 6, 2010 9:22 AM EDT up reply actions
Agreed. Inconsistent? Sure. Undependable? I’d buy it. Overpaid? Now we’re pushing it. Overrated? That presumes a level of hype surrounding him that I just don’t think exists.
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Well that, and it’s ignoring the contribution he does make. This is a 40 goal scorer we’re talking about.
"Do you see my fist? It was fists like these that built quaint Canadian cities out of the harsh Canadian wilderness, etc. etc."
Not in Seattle anymore.
by SeattleCapsFan on Oct 6, 2010 9:28 AM EDT up reply actions
Overrated is entirely the wrong word for him. He’s second-fiddle to Alex Ovechkin on this team, and the press can’t mention his “all-world talent” without mentioning his durability issues and inconsistent play. The guy has put up well over a point-per-game in two of his last four seasons, has scored thirty goals three times, forty goals once, and has really improved defensively at the same time.
Nevertheless, people lump him in the same class as Nik Zherdev or modern-day Alexei Kovalev, neither of whom have put up anything approaching Semin’s point totals in that timeframe (Kovalev did put up 35-49-84 in 2007-2008, but then surrounded that with years in which he scored 47, 65, and 49 points).
Fair, but at the same time I think there are people who focus on his talent without regards to his inconsistency or his tendency to get hurt. Whether you see him as overrated or underrated probably depends on the company you keep.
I think the comparisons, especially the one with Kovalev are based more on natural talent and effort than anything else, including production, though Kovalev’s stretch from ‘99 to ’03 (basically his time on the Penguins) does mirror Semin’s numbers to an extent.
I could imagine Semin being overrated, but it seems to me like his inconsistency, durability issues, and playoff performance are too well documented to say he’s “overrated.” He’s “underrated,” if either, I think (by virtue of being harped on so much for his flaws).
by red army line on Oct 6, 2010 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions
I see Semin as just “rated”. Whether you see him for an all world talent that can score goals and dangle with the best of em or just some euro-pansy loafer who floats in the neutral zone all the time, he’s both at times cause he is so inconsistent and you just don’t know what you’re gonna get out of him from night to night.
He’s overrated based on one drum solo. We need a whole set to know if he can really groove.
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by oldemystix on Oct 6, 2010 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Laich is starting to annoy me at times. He’s too much the Boy Scout and I suppose I am naturally suspicious of people like that. I also think he’s peaked and by the end of this season will be a 3rd liner. At some point this season, I’d like to see a 2nd line of Semin, MoJo, and F16.
I tend to agree. I like Laich, but it seems to have developed (or maybe it’s the media portrayal) that hard work/practice is synonymous with deserving a 2nd line spot. For now, I’m happy with him there, but if someone works better on the 2nd line, move ’em on in.
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I think people overestimate what type of production to expect from a second liner, and that might make Laich underrated. As far as points go Laich is a borderline first liner, or a very good/great second liner. He’d have to fall pretty far (or the Caps would have to get extraordinarily topheavy) for him to be bumped down the depth chart.
His points are inflated by being 1PP. Of his 25 goals last season, 12 were on the PP and 1 was on PK. That means he only had 12 ES goals in 1,032 minutes of ES. That is not “borderline first, or a very good/great second liner” production, that is borderline 2nd, very good 3rd line production. Fehr, for comparison purposes, had 18 ES goals in 737 minutes. Yes, Fehr played weaeker competition, but he also didn’t have the linemates laich had.
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by timmyv38 on Oct 6, 2010 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
I think part of what makes Laich look bad is the absence of two dominating players (like Knuble has) on his line. Laich doesn’t drive offense like AO, Backstrom, or Semin, and so really goes as his line goes.
by red army line on Oct 6, 2010 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Caught between Flash pulling everyone down and Semin pulling everyone up? Interesting.
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by Knee high to a duck on Oct 6, 2010 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions
I think AO can pull everyone up. Semin can too, but only to a certain point.
by red army line on Oct 7, 2010 8:52 AM EDT up reply actions
I’d agree that he’s not underrated – I think he maybe used to be slightly underrated, just because he was one of those role-playing guys who got little respect on a team that wasn’t very good. Now he’s a 20+ goal guy who is probably a 3rd-liner on a really good team, and for some reason some people think he should get more attention as a result.
Don’t get me wrong, I’d love to see 95% of the Caps-related articles be about #21…but I think he gets exactly as much attention and as much praise as he deserves, if not a little more than he deserves.
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How is he a 3rd liner on a really good team? His points would have put him as about the 15th LW in the league (he’s listed as the 25th C). Even though that includes a lot of PP production that’s far better than a 3rd liner.
I think his skillset is more appropriate for the 3rd line – he racked up points partially because he played with talented linemates and partly because of his PP time. I love Laich and I think he does a decent job on the 2nd line, but I’d really like to see what Fehr could do in his place (moving Sasha to his natural LW position).
Consider that Fehr got almost as many goals while getting on average four fewer minutes of ice time – and virtually no PP time on the most potent PP in the League.
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Agreed about Fehr, but Laich’s still got some good 2nd line skills. Good shot, good speed, good in front of the net. Not elite at any of them, but my main point is that people way overrate what it takes to be a really good 2nd liner. An elite 2nd liner (not a 1st liner playing on the 2nd line, like Semin) is still less probably a 60 point player.
I’m with you on this. Well put. Sometimes I think Laich flails out there. I see Fehr ever-improving for awhile and think he might be good on a line with Semin. But, I want a different C there. Despite the streak and Flash as 2C, it does not seem it will work well long term. I could be totally wrong and surprised.
I’m not sure I’d say Laich “flails” out there – obviously he’s done a decent enough job that a) they’ve kept him there and b) he’s put up some good point totals. I think he falls somewhere between a 2nd-line and a 3rd-line guy, depending on the team. Because we’ve got so much depth, and because I think Fehr is potentially more suited for that 2nd line job, I think he’s a better fit on the 3rd line for the Caps. On other teams (and for this team when they sucked) he’s a 2nd line guy
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It’s not that I think he does all the time or anything like that, but sometimes when I watch him, it just seems he’s outmatched and really reaching. I’m sure the same could be said for a number of players, but it’s been an impression I’ve had more and more. I’ll just be very interested to see how this regular season goes. I keep having a feeling that we’re going to have some surprises with the line-up by January.
From Wang’s article:
It might have been a little bit different if we were looking for a number two center. – BB
This is discouraging because it makes him sound as if he’s confident that keeping Flash at 2C will be just fine.
There are 82 games in which this line up will be tested before it really starts to count. The nice thing about sending someone like MP down to Hershey is that they can always come back up. Just ask Alzner.
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by SeattleCapsFan on Oct 6, 2010 9:14 AM EDT up reply actions
I think I’m more concerned that BB doesn’t see it as an issue in the first place.
by DrinkingPartner on Oct 6, 2010 9:20 AM EDT up reply actions
I’m trying to see it as glass half full…
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by SeattleCapsFan on Oct 6, 2010 9:23 AM EDT up reply actions
Seattle has turned you into a cockeyed optimist hippie.
'Cause the end of what it was is what it is right now...
Don’t worry, I’m in DC now to get my head straightened back out.
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by SeattleCapsFan on Oct 6, 2010 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions
Why thank you. I’m soooooooooo excited to be back!!!!1one
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by SeattleCapsFan on Oct 6, 2010 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions
I bet Alzner gave Matty his annotated map for the Hershey-DC trek.
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by capsyoungguns on Oct 6, 2010 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions
Or it means that for now 2C is Flash’s to lose. Corey tweeted about this yesterday —
Don’t understand why some #Caps fans point to Fleischmann’s deficiencies but overlook those exact same problems with Perreault. … Flash and MP85 are very similar players. Same strengths/weaknesses. Except Fleischmann had better #s w/#HBH and has done it w/the #Caps.
I know I’m viewed as a Flash apologist on this site…but I don’t know how one can disagree with/debate Corey’s point.
Flash has a work ethic problem on the ice that Perreault doesn’t, and for all the times 85 gets laid out driving to the net trying to make things happen, he doesn’t shy away from those harsh areas like Flash does.
Why wouldn't you play Perreault? He's a really talented young player.
Flash has a work ethic problem on the ice that Perreaultdoesn’thasn’t yet displayed.
Let’s be fair – we’ve seen Mathieu Perrault the NHLer in very limited duty, playing for a job. I’d love to have seen a similar fire lit under Flash, but to make that broad a generalization based on what we’ve seen is a bit much.
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I watch a lot of AHL games every year and I haven’t seen Perreault floating yet.
Why wouldn't you play Perreault? He's a really talented young player.
And I specifically referred to MP the NHLer.
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I guess there’s a possibility that he could earn an NHL job and then start slacking off.. uncharacteristically.. but I don’t think that’s akin to me to saying “Well a guy might get injured if he plays, so don’t play him.”
Why wouldn't you play Perreault? He's a really talented young player.
That’s mostly fair, but I don’t think it’s unreasonable to also attribute some of his high-energy NHL play to the situations in which he was put. Case in point, it tailed off somewhat the longer he hung around.
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And anyone who ever watched Flash in the AHL could draw similar comparisons…it’s not like he floated through Hershey games, he was a big reason they were successful when he was there.
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Are there people that actually got to regularly watch Flash in HER?
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…Hershey fans?
I wouldn’t say I watched him regularly but I saw a few games and was always impressed with him. Same with Dave Steckel, for that matter – which kind of proves my point, basing a projection of someone’s success solely off of how they performed in the AHL is not the best way to go.
Or I could have just said 2 words: Alexandre Giroux.
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Right, I just think it’s entirely possible that Flash produced despite floating because of his skill level, and I wasn’t aware of any way for a fan to keep up with HER during those Calder Cup runs without going to games.
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Well, I can’t say I was watching for the floating thing – but he never exactly seemed like he was floating back then. Perhaps part of that was because he was actually more talented than a lot of guys he played against, and it was a lower-level league, so what we see – and rightly so – as floating at the NHL level might have been his “best” at the AHL level, you know?
When did AHL Live (the online thing) start? I feel like I watched some of his games online but I could just be remembering games I saw in person. We went up there a few times. Oh, and the final game vs Milwaukee (?) was on TV…
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He makes a valid point. I think the problem is that we’ve all seen Flash’s issues, MP is still fairly untried so it leaves a lot to the imagination.
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by SeattleCapsFan on Oct 6, 2010 9:30 AM EDT up reply actions
MP is falling into that backup quarterback scenario where everybody fantasizes about how much better he would be than the starter if only he had the chance to play. And then he finally gets his opportunity and suddenly he’s not quite as good as we imagined. Like last year, at some point Perrault will get another chance to show what he can do with the Caps, but right now Johannson appears to be the better choice.
by b.orr4 on Oct 6, 2010 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Unless the starting QB is Kevin Kolb and he’s literally only the starting QB because the coach says so, and not because of merit. Then you have a backup with high profile question marks who has done whatever he can when given the chance. Maybe it could be one of those…
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Oct 6, 2010 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions
To counter Corey, I’d say that people that it’s not really an apples-to-apples comparison – Flash was/is the 2C, Perreault was fighting for the 3C job. If Corey’s specifically referring to people who argued that Perreault is better than Flash and should have been the 2C, his points are spot on, but I don’t think that’s a large or vocal group.
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were there that many folks arguing MP should be the 2C right now? Or was it that Flash shouldn’t be the 2C?
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To counter your counter, aren’t those deficiencies much more glaring for a 3C (i.e. generally required to play a more defensive role at times) than a 2C?
I think that’s a bit too broad a generalization. I don’t see Bruce’s 3rd line as requiring any more or less defensive responsibility than his second.
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more to the point, I’d say that around the NHL 3C’s are more defensive-minded characters, whereas Bruce would look for a fair amount of offensive upside on his 3rd line pivot in addition to some defensive acumen. My take on Bruce’s decision to keep 90—among many others—was that he didn’t see enough of that acumen in MP, and that MJ more than held his own offensively.
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Point granted. Though I do think if you polled fans…even (especially) on this site as to which player they’d rather see on the team….MP wins in a landslide.
I’ll throw it out there – does anyone think that Mathieu Perreault would be a better second-line center for this Caps team right now than Tomas Fleischmann?
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Could MP be the 2C on a team reasonably expected to be in the hunt for the cup by this spring?
I think not, unless he somehow grows 3 inches and puts on 20 lbs of muscle.
I am a hockey fan first, and a Caps fan second.
He could be if space is cleared by him by trading Flash for a big-deal defenseman of some kind.
Why wouldn't you play Perreault? He's a really talented young player.
I’ve loved the way he plays since the first time I saw him, but I can’t see this team making a cup run if MP85 is the #2 pivot. I actually think Flash gives us a better chance in that regard.
I think he’s much better suited between Chimera and Fehr. His strengths and weaknesses are much better balanced by theirs than Semin and Laich.
I am a hockey fan first, and a Caps fan second.
I’m not saying he should be, I’m saying in this If Game scenario, where Flash is traded, perhaps with other assets, for a legit top-3/4 D, he could be the second center on a cup contender.
Why wouldn't you play Perreault? He's a really talented young player.
See, I’m of the belief that if MP85 is our 2C, we’re not a legitimate cup contender.
I am a hockey fan first, and a Caps fan second.
It’s ok to disagree.
Why wouldn't you play Perreault? He's a really talented young player.
by jordanDC on Oct 6, 2010 9:55 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
rec’d for the best reasoned post of the day.
The usual response is to debate for hours beating to death the same unquantifiable points over and over.
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by iwearstripes on Oct 6, 2010 10:07 AM EDT up reply actions
I don’t disagree, but are the Caps a legitimate cup contender with Flash there?
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by Gould Old Days on Oct 6, 2010 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions
I think we’re marginally closer, but probably not. Which is also a good point.
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by iwearstripes on Oct 6, 2010 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions
I’m no Flash fan, but I’d say we don’t know yet.
Give Flash a few months. We’re not in any huge rush yet.
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Totally not the response I expected from you. In this case you’ve put my feelings on paper in a much more succinct, eloquent fashion.
I’ve never denied that there’s a ton of talent under that ginger ‘fro. Being a bit of a “floater” as a center isn’t as much of a problem as it is when you’re a wing. One thing Flash has shown consistently throughout his career is the ability to puckhandle with speed through the neutral zone.
My biggest concern with him will be defensive-zone coverage.
'Cause the end of what it was is what it is right now...
Being a floater bothers me when the floating floats into the defensive zone.
Why wouldn't you play Perreault? He's a really talented young player.
in Bruce’s system, floating at C is a lot worse than floating at wing: too much ice coverage needed on D for the pivot. See Perreault, M.
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My “floater” comment was in reference to his tendency toward the perimeter in the offensive zone.
'Cause the end of what it was is what it is right now...
I disagree. It’s probably easier to get away floating on the W just because of the lesser responsibilities.
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Offensive-zone, not defensive.
In the offensive zone, being a floater at C just means you’re in position to be the third-man high.
'Cause the end of what it was is what it is right now...
If that were BB’s system then maybe that would be true. But a lot of his comments about Mackan are that he wants Mackan to be more aggressive getting down low.
Also, everyone should go look at the 2-on-1 goal that VAN scored against us where Shamo backed himself into the crease after Mike Green rushed the puck. That’s a perfect example of why I don’t like Flash floating in the offensive zone (and is also a perfect example of his horrid defensive instincts).
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Has they’re been a team in the last 20 years that’s won a Cup with rookies centering their second and third lines? It may have happened, but I can’t remember it.
ANA had Getzlaf and Perry on their second line, though they both had a little over a half NHL season going into their Cup year.
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In terms of TOI I think Rob Niedermayer, Pahlsson, and their other checker had more, but yeah, they had a rookie line Perry-Getzlaf-Penner.
by red army line on Oct 6, 2010 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t believe Flash makes us that, either.
by DrinkingPartner on Oct 6, 2010 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions
That’s a tough question to answer without seeing how Flash performs now that he’s (presumably) healthy and trained.
A followup or parallel question would be, what kind of numbers do people see Perreault putting up as a rookie 2C on this team (over, say, 82 games just for simplicity’s sake)?
With Semin on his wing the whole season? 55, easy.
Why wouldn't you play Perreault? He's a really talented young player.
MP with PP time and second line minutes for 82 games could equal Semin’s ES production from last year, in my opinion.
Why wouldn't you play Perreault? He's a really talented young player.
Remember that Backs would likely have had more if Hanlon hadn’t been stupid for the first month and a half.
by DrinkingPartner on Oct 6, 2010 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions
I don’t know. He definitely needed the time to adjust. I think the timing there ended up being almost perfect, frankly.
So true. People knew that he was a good player, but I don’t think anyone thought he would adjust so well, so quickly.
But he’s not a winger by any stretch of the imagination, and it’s obvious that he should’ve been a C all along. To me, anyway.
by DrinkingPartner on Oct 6, 2010 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions
Did he really need the time to adjust? And was making him learn a new position the best way to adjust him? Why is Hanlon getting the benefit of the doubt on making the right call? Dude was fired and the team immediately turned it around 180 degrees.
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I’d take the under, and hard.
Let’s look at two Caps centers from last year, Perreault and Player X.
Perreault had a higher QualTeam and a lower QualComp at 5-on-5. And yet, despite these advantages, registered fewer points per 60 at 5-on-5 than Player X.
Who is Player X? Nick Backstrom? Brendan Morrison? Tomas Fleischmann?
How about Boyd Gordon.
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A 20 game stint with some games being played alongside Clark and Sloan isn’t the same as 82 games with PP time and Semin, which were the conditions that I laid out.
Why wouldn't you play Perreault? He's a really talented young player.
It’s still less with more. Not much more, to be sure. You’re talking about a huge jump in production.
BMo got 2:08 of PP TOI per game last year. If MP85 got those minutes, produced on the PP at, say, Tomas Fleischmann’s rate from last year (6.56 point/60, second on the team – obviously that’s a generous plug number), and played 82 games, that’s 19 power play points for the season.
That means that he’d need 36 even strength points to hit the 55 total points you give him. Morrison had 34 last year (in 74 games), Brooks Laich had 36 and the top line plus Semin all cleared 40.
So is it possible that MP85 with a season centering the 2nd line and getting 2nd PP duty could hit 55? It is. But everything would have to go almost perfectly for him. To me, 55 would be just about the absolute ceiling, and I’d still bet the under.
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Another way of looking at it, let’s assume Perreault sees 13 minutes of ES time per game and 2 minutes of powerplay time. Let’s also assume he gets 55 points, with 13 coming on the powerplay and 42 coming at even strength.
That means 42 even strength points in 1066 minutes; .0394 points per minute; 2.218 points per sixty at even strength and 13 points in 164 powerplay minutes; .0793 per minute; 4.758 on the powerplay.
That rate at even strength would have been in the top 15% of scorers last year, equal to Heatley and in the range of Fleischmann, Kessel, Zajac, Toews, and Datsyuk. The powerplay rate would have been in the top 25% and in the neighborhood of Crosby, Gaborik, Nash, and Henrik Sedin.
I agree with J.P. – possible, but probably not very likely.
by David Getz on Oct 6, 2010 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Blah, sorry if it seems like piling on, Jordan, it just took me a few minuets to do the numbers and wanted to share them.
Just to add on, for what it’s worth, Perreault’s 82-game rate in the AHL, ~73 points, is 30 NHL points by NHLE. 55 is a huge jump from there.
by red army line on Oct 6, 2010 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Would he be better at 2C than Flash? Debatable. Would I rather see him at 2C than Flash? Absolutely.
by DrinkingPartner on Oct 6, 2010 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions
No. Not now, not in April. He doesn’t have the experience Fleischmann has in April, and he has not yet played an 82-game season at this level of play, so who knows whether he’ll be gassed come the spring.
If you've read this far...seek help.
The A is not the N, but you don’t consider lots of minutes over nearly 100 A games at least comparable?
by DrinkingPartner on Oct 6, 2010 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Only in spurts. I don’t think MP can keep up his energetic style a full season with NHL wear and tear.
Because I saw him start to fizzle out after a much smaller set of games last year, and I think over the long haul it’s going to be very tough for him with his size. There are examples of guys his size that have been able to keep it up, so that is not my main consideration here, just a long-term concern. This is based more on what I have seen out of MP.
Not me. I hoped for Mackan so that he could continue his development. To me he has more upside in the long run and I like his defensive frame of mind.
I figured Flash for the second line because for better or worse he has more NHL experience. Who knows if Flash will still be here by next year. I love Matty but saw him as one of the first injury callups.
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by capsyoungguns on Oct 6, 2010 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions
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by Alz Well That Ends Well on Oct 6, 2010 9:22 AM EDT reply actions
Obvioulsy I’d like to see them win the Cup..but getting to the Finals this year would count as a success in my book.
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Does this mean that before today, across all of SBNation, there had not yet been a user named “Truculence”? If so, PPP’s been sleeping on the job. And well done Truculence for correcting that!
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by Gould Old Days on Oct 6, 2010 9:57 AM EDT up reply actions
Does anyone know where I can find information on shot location? I remember someone posting charts/graphics a few days ago, but cannot remember who or where the info came from?
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Someone please slap GMGM & BB and find a trade or something and get rid of FLUSH !!!!!!!!! Put MoJo on 2nd and MJ on 3rd lines
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So Johansson centering two lines.. I know we’re all high on the kid, but that’s a bit much.
Why wouldn't you play Perreault? He's a really talented young player.
by jordanDC on Oct 6, 2010 9:54 AM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
Ok haven’t had my coffee yet :) MP on the third
"Do you smell that? It's napalm, son. Nothing else on the world smells like that. I love the smell of napalm in the morning. Y'know, once we had a hail bomb....12 hours....and when it was all over I walked up. We didn't find one of them, not one stinking dink body. The smell, y'know that gasoline smell, that whole hell. Smells like........ Victory. Some day this war's gonna end."
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Heh heh…. Flash sounds like Flush…heh heh.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Oct 6, 2010 9:56 AM EDT up reply actions
I don’t like Fleischmann all that much (as a player for this team right now – he seems like a hell of a nice guy, though), but pitching him as addition by subtraction given the replacement options are two rookies is a stretch.
by David Getz on Oct 6, 2010 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
You know how the NHL sends around videos explaining how penalties will be called by using some pretty blatant examples of what not to do? If we were to do similarly in order to demonstrate how not to comment on this site, this one would make the video.
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by J.P. on Oct 6, 2010 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions 19 recs
If you can get your hands on the NHL’s “communication” video, its a gem. You’ll gain a new appreciation/hatred for Sean Avery.
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by iwearstripes on Oct 6, 2010 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions
When you make that video, can I ask you to include things like carpet bombing threads with lame puns, banal observations and literal translations of surnames?
Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?
by fat_daddyo on Oct 6, 2010 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions 12 recs
Carpet bombing, a war tactic heavily influenced by the Italian strategist Giulio Douhet. Douhet, ironically, sounds like Huet. I wonder if they are distant relatives? Did you know that Douhet in Italian means “sausage maker”. I have a cousin who makes sausage.
by Cluster on Oct 6, 2010 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions 12 recs
My daughter-in-law makes sausage. Her name is Krasivaya, which means “beautiful” in Russian.
by Natty Bumppo on Oct 6, 2010 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions 7 recs
What is “which one of you is more like CF75”?
A very misguided piece on Huffington Post recently called 30 Rock the most racist show on television thanks to Tracy Morgan’s wild, manic, madcap performance. Tonight illustrated why whoever wrote that piece is full of shit and should be punched in the face until he has a more nuanced grasp on comedy.
by Bald Pollack on Oct 6, 2010 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
How swede it is to be polled by a Pole!
Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?
by fat_daddyo on Oct 6, 2010 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Is D.C. a hockey town? Box Seats
I rarely comment over at WaPo (because I often fail to see the point), but here’s what I had to say regarding the whole “Is DC a hockey town” subject that has been beat to death the past few seasons…
I agree with the basic point of this article. While it is definitely true that the climate of this area can’t really support the outdoor experience, I do believe that high school and amateur hockey is growing and can continue to do so. The real litmus test, I believe, as to whether DC is a “hockey town” will come once the Caps fall from their current status as one of the best teams in the NHL. It’s easy to root for teams that win, it happens everywhere. What’s not easy is to continue to root for the teams that have fallen on hard times. It doesn’t matter whether the Redskins come in last place or win the Superbowl, folks here are going to care about what’s going on with the team and follow them regularly. Would this be the case with the Caps, or would a fall from grace mean that many of the fans just stop caring all together? Would missing the playoffs mean that local sports news outlets stop covering them altogether, similar to the amount of media coverage they were getting 4 or 5 years ago? If DC is truly a hockey town, then the answers to these questions would be “no”…and to have that level of passion among fans requires a team such as the Caps to be relevant long enough to capture the hearts and interests of entire generations of sports fans—something I do believe the Caps are beginning to achieve, but haven’t fully reached yet. Only time will tell, but I don’t think until the point where we are able to still see a full Verizon Center for a Tuesday night game while the Caps aren’t sitting atop the conference or even their division, or playing the most exciting brand of hockey in North America, can we truly call DC a “hockey town”
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by PaintDrinkingPete on Oct 6, 2010 10:00 AM EDT reply actions
The real litmus test, I believe, as to whether DC is a "hockey town" will come once the Caps fall from their current status as one of the best teams in the NHL.
That’s all you had to write, fella.
Why wouldn't you play Perreault? He's a really talented young player.
by jordanDC on Oct 6, 2010 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Hell, it won’t even take a fall from their current status. You will probably be able to tell from an extended streak of mediocrity during a single season. The “newer” Caps fans are as fickle as Brett Farve. We’d have to win a Cup first, and then go back to awfulness/mediocrity to really “test” the fans. IMHO, and such.
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by snakegriffin on Oct 6, 2010 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions
The real test will be when the Redskins get good again.
Ha, I just said “when,” silly me.
by brs03 on Oct 6, 2010 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
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True, the “DC as a Hockey Town” subject has been beaten to death on Japers Rink and other Caps blogs. But I would venture that only 10%-20% of Caps fans routinely read those blogs, if the number is even that high. Ultimately, the hockeytown debate rages only among the hard-core hockey fans.
The target demographic of Box Seats is not the hard-core fan, it’s more of the casual Caps fan or casual DC sports fan. When I write those blog posts on Box Seats I’m not directing it towards the die-hards that you find on this board. It’s directed to the large sub-set of casual fans that are surfing through the Post. To that much larger segment, the hockeytown topic is novel to them. So please re-set your expectations of my input into Box Seats. Rigorous analysis and intense discussion for the die-hards = Japers Rink. High-level analysis of the Caps + occasional deep-dives into stats for casual audiences = Box Seats (at least my input into it).
And for the record, I totally agree with your litmus test. The Caps have to win a few Stanley Cups before they can sell out on a Tuesday night when they’re 10 points out of the playoff race.
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But I would venture that only 10%-20% of Caps fans routinely read those blogs, if the number is even that high. Ultimately, the hockeytown debate rages only among the hard-core hockey fans.
Very true I think. However, I do think that there are many hardcore fans, such as my husband, who doesn’t read the blogs. He really is a newspaper guy, especially in print. Having said that, I am impressed by the growing number of hardcore fans, including the young. One can see the growth just at my son’s local elementary school, both from the perspective of how many are now playing hockey and how many are just watching and aware of the Caps.
(An aside, my husband who grew up loving hockey and going to Rangers games is a little in awe of how much I’ve learned. He still understands the game better than I do but I still know more about the team and the players.)
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Well can you at least guarantee fifty?
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by capsyoungguns on Oct 6, 2010 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions
So I have a decision looming with my fantasy hockey team.
Do I put MP85 on waivers as the Caps did or hang onto him for a little while, knowing I can’t roster him now?
I’m debating only because of my Caps bias. I also have Ryan Parent, and there is no question that I’m going to release him.
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Drop him.. there are better options still available.
Why wouldn't you play Perreault? He's a really talented young player.
And how fast would you pick him up? Should I send you an email right before I drop him, so that you can get online?
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If you don’t send him the e mail send it to me :)
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Our league is hardcore offense. He’d be a waste of space until he makes it back to the N, and then he’d only be here for a few games. Not worth it.
by DrinkingPartner on Oct 6, 2010 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions
Do you need the roster spot? Frankly, I don’t see him being a fantasy juggernaut, so if it were me, I’d definitely replace him with a skater that could produce points if any were available…otherwise I’d just sit tight.
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by PaintDrinkingPete on Oct 6, 2010 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions
I think that’s the question. Do I keep him as a reserve player or find someone more likely to be with the big club most of the year? I’ll have to see who is available.
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If you’re talking about the Japers league that you’re in, I wouldn’t even want MP on my roster if he played ever night with the big club. Not with our scoring categories.
I have to look at it tonight. I get the big red hand for fantasy sports at work. Given the points for hits, blocked shots, and PIM, you may be right. It all depends what else is out there.
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Anybody else watch the Caps Red Line preseason show last night? Ovi and Erskine had me chuckling.
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That whole sequence of the boys interviewing each other was hilarious – already a million times better than last year just because of that.
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Laich to Alzner: “You’re a grown man now!”
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Ha! Yes, and now I’m dying to know what that was about – that was from the earlier part (the “behind-the-scenes” segment), right? I wonder if he was talking about his engagement or something else. Cute cute cute.
But yes, Erskine having to wrestle the mic away from Ovie was great. And their discussion of Taylor Swift/Justin Bieber was also really funny.
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Alzner probably asked Laich about the “boo boo” he had on his face last year.
"Do you see my fist? It was fists like these that built quaint Canadian cities out of the harsh Canadian wilderness, etc. etc."
Not in Seattle anymore.
by SeattleCapsFan on Oct 6, 2010 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions
I missed it…hopefully will be available on the Caps website.
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by PaintDrinkingPete on Oct 6, 2010 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions
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by boutros23 on Oct 6, 2010 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
It was pretty bad. Mostly fluff. There were a few funny clips from the players interviewing each other, but that’s about it.
Random prediction: Alzner will be one of the characters HBO focuses on.
I agree, I think the only worthwhile stuff was the Cap on Cap segment. Wish we could get more of that.
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Not in Seattle anymore.
by SeattleCapsFan on Oct 6, 2010 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions
But you say that as if CRL is meant to be hard-hitting journalism – it’s not. I thought it was pretty enjoyable for what it was supposed to be.
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Is it a series? I haven’t seen it before, so I didn’t know what to expect. I was hoping for some actual analysis and coverage of the substantive stories from camp. Maybe I shouldn’t have been…
Oh. Yeah, it’s a weekly (ish) series they started last year, I believe it kicks in for good again mid-season…aka when the Skins are done. If they’d just called it a Caps Preview, I’m with you – I would have expected (or at least hoped for) more hard-hitting, in-depth stuff. But it was marketed as CRL Preview so I figured it wouldn’t be.
They have them all on the Caps’ site, you can take a look at last year’s if you’re so inclined – some fun segments called “Cruisin’” where they ride along w/ guys like Bradley, Chimera, Alzner, etc. Fluff, but fun.
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Don’t forget “Forces of Hockey” with “Professor” Bradley two years ago and Professor Lou last year.
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One of the best parts of Bradley’s Cruisin’ segment was when he talked about how upset he was to lose the Forces of Hockey gig…hilarious. And I miss him, Professor Lou just doesn’t do it for me (and has no lightsabers, wtf?).
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Didn’t see the show but I did notice that while we were reduced to watching crappy video streams of preseason games, the Wizards had an away game in Dallas televised on CSN in HD with their Buckholtz and Chenier covering the game. Am I missing something or didn’t the Caps draw more viewers last season on CSN than the Wizards?
Per Corey
#Caps D for 1st drill of practice: Schultz-Green, Poti-Carlson, Erskine/Sloan-Alzner.
What happened to 27-74?
Also, the way he wrote it, makes it seem like 89 and 27 are competing for the 6th spot.
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Poti-Carlson was a good pairing last season, so maybe they want to try it again. I hope Alzner isn’t paired with Erskine this season though…. that is not a good pairing.
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I think they’re going to give 3-74 a shot at first – partly because Poti’s not a third-pair guy (yet) and partly because they seem to play pretty well together. I hate the idea of Alzner w/ Erskine or Sloan but if it doesn’t work, at least we know that 27-74 are a good backup option.
Really I think they’re not necessarily comfortable starting the season w/ 2 rookie defensemen paired up together. Hard to disagree on that, really. By the end of the year, though, who knows?
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He said 4 and 89 are rotating as 27’s partner.
That makes me feel a bit better knowing that 27 is unlikely to be the odd man out.
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with ATL on deck, my money’s on 4. Question is, who is playing the right point in the rotation?
back to cool special
Carlson, I would assume.
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I think he meant who plays right defense between Alzner and Erskine/Sloane. All three being left shots, you see.
Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?
I got it. I assumed PP rotation.
No idea from among the three lefties. BB likes his L-R pairings.
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They’re not going to keep Alzner with the big club if he’s not going to play every night. He’s 22, he needs to get ice time, either in DC (preferably) or Hershey…
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Oct 6, 2010 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions
27-74 leaves Poti with trash for a partner and then he can’t be used as an ES minutes eater. The writing was on the wall with that one. Sucks for Alzner.
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And really, that’s all the more reason I’d have loved to see Juice back as the #6D – Alzner’s play with him was worlds better than with Erskine.
by Kerry Fraser's Hairspray on Oct 6, 2010 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions
(IF) the Juice is Loose
Should the Caps put in a claim?
I’d personally much prefer Jurcina to either Erskine or Sloan, and at $1m, he’s pretty cheap.
'Cause the end of what it was is what it is right now...
Please.
Why wouldn't you play Perreault? He's a really talented young player.
by jordanDC on Oct 6, 2010 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Over Erskine maybe not, but over Sloan hell to the yes. I’m really not a big Jurcina fan, but he’s a huge defensive improvement over Sloan.
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Not in Seattle anymore.
by SeattleCapsFan on Oct 6, 2010 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions
Yes, without a second thought. The only snag would be that they’d have to quickly create a roster spot.
If you’re bringing in Jurcina to replace Sloan or Erskine, then you drop one of the two of Sloan or Erskine.
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Oct 6, 2010 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Botta’s post at NYI Point Blank seems to suggest that Jurcina’ s #8 or 9 on the depth chart.
'Cause the end of what it was is what it is right now...
One better than wherever Sloan is slotted.
Why wouldn't you play Perreault? He's a really talented young player.
Unless for some reason he’s really tanked it this year? I have no idea if he has, though. Anyone follow the Isle close enough to opine? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller?
Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?
Good luck finding that individual.
Why wouldn't you play Perreault? He's a really talented young player.
If he’s not better than de Haan, Gervais, Hillen and MacDonald, something’s got to be going wrong there, no?
Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?
Could be, for sure. All those guys are smaller and more agile, though, so maybe that’s the look they’re going for.
Why wouldn't you play Perreault? He's a really talented young player.
The difference is that the Caps’ top-5 are actually good. Mottau is their #1/2.
Our 6/7 suck balls. Erskine is probably “better” than Sloan, but Sloan’s ability to skate makes him a better fit for the system.
'Cause the end of what it was is what it is right now...
The difference is that the Caps’ top-5 are actually good.
We think. If the rookies have ironed out 75% of their rookie mistakes by the time the playoffs roll around, I’ll buy into that.
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by Knee high to a duck on Oct 6, 2010 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Right, but the Isles aren’t in their Cup window. If things break right for the Caps as far as development for 27, 74 and 90 are concerned, this is a very scary team going into the post-season. If.
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by Knee high to a duck on Oct 6, 2010 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe they thought he would play a bigger role or something?
Why wouldn't you play Perreault? He's a really talented young player.
I don’t know, so I’m asking, did he fully recover from his injury? Maybe that played a role in his conditioning.
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I’d rather have Jurcina than Sloan/Erskine too…..but even more than that I’d rather bank the cap space for B. Richards/Vokoun/top-4 D, or some combo of the above, later in the season. The Caps will be just fine in the regular season with Sloskine. People (you?) rightfully point out that GMGM can be criticized for wasting cap space by locking up fungible bottom 3 forwards and bottom 2 D…well, picking up Jurcina would be doing exactly that.
Jurcina’s on a one-year $1m contract though. If he sucks, you can waive him. If he’s great, you can still demote him to the press-box come playoff time.
Mottau would have been interesting, but he got a two-year contract.
I’d also be up for putting a claim in on Parent.
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Oct 6, 2010 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions
A Caps blogger roundtable in which I make a prediction that runs counter to the one I made on this site the other day. Oh well, I’m covering my bases.
I don’t know which prediction from the other day you’re talking about. But you did take the “under” for Bodog’s prediction of 110.5 pts for Ovie, and then predicted 114 for him in the roundtable. Shall we assume your prediction at the sportsbook is the more reliable one…money talks after all?
I’m all over the place – I predict the Caps to win the East in that roundtable and to lose in the ECF in our preview.
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I also noticed you took the under on 110.5 pts for AO but then predicted him to get 114 in the round table. I see you are learning from those DC lobbyists wooing both sides of the aisle.
Release the Mackan!
by Killer_Carlson on Oct 6, 2010 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Old Economists’ proverb:
Don’t forecast. But if you do, do it frequently.
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Oct 6, 2010 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Any way to check if A. Gordon has cleared waivers? Or do we just wait for one of the journos to tweet that he’s cleared?
Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?
The latter, as far as I know.
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Gordon clears. (McKenzie, Masisak)
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And we’re deprived of ever knowing whether a “Gordon gets claimed” thread could’ve beaten the 1,000+ comments in the “Bourque gets claimed” thread.
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I have zero emotional attachment to whether he cleared or not, but I am so thankful for this. I would have read the thread and pulled my remaining hairs out.
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You could always just not read it.
'Cause the end of what it was is what it is right now...
by D'ohboy on Oct 6, 2010 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Could have, yes. Would have, no.
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So true. I feel your pain. Compulsive reading is a hard habit to break—no?
Alright, confess-how many goals are you going to make this year?
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Well can you at least guarantee fifty?
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by capsyoungguns on Oct 6, 2010 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Semi-related question – At some point, I thought I kept hearing or reading something about a player making $105,000 or less in the AHL was somehow able to move up and back without going through waivers again. I tried to find something in the CBA waivers section, but couldn’t. Did I misread/mis-hear this, make it up or what? I know about the under 10 games/30 days thing.
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The AHL salary only relates to re-entry waivers, which is discussed in 50.9(g).
Also, depending on which version of the CBA one references, there is a portion related to re-entry waivers, which was added in after the CBA was released in 2005, regarding a minor league vet exemption. The NHLPA version I know is updated with the wording, but some individual sites that pulled the CBA don’t have the version with the modification.
Thanks.
Sure would be nice if the version at nhl.com that I have bookmarked had the amendments.
"It's always good to have vikings."
I don’t use that version and fwiw, even the version I used doesn’t have all the changes that have been agreed to by the NHL/NHLPA, but I’m pretty sure the NHLPA version includes minor league vet info.
Does the version you have include language at the end of 50.9g related to the Veteran Minor League Players? It is one of the few additions I know was added to the version on the NHLPA site.
And it’s from several years ago. There have been other modifications agreed to by the NHL/NHLPA, some I am sure we have never even been told, that are not included in the NHLPA site version.
Okay, so because I’m a masochist I read the OFB posting regarding the WC jersey. The letter pucksandbooks reprinted from the fan/jersey historian “Michael” was embarrassing. Not that he’s wrong about the patch. But I hope the Caps Organization doesn’t think the OFB post or the associated letter embodies how Caps fans express their dissatisfaction.
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Yeah…I think stitched letters would be a huge improvement, but there’s more important things to worry about.
I may have actually fell out of my chair when I read the part about the team literally asking fans for their old jerseys to wear. I’d explain why my head almost blew up when I read that…but then I’d just be insulting everyone’s intelligence here.
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by PaintDrinkingPete on Oct 6, 2010 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions
McKenzie tweeting that all players from yesterday cleared.
A Gordon fans can breathe now.
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Thanks. I was much more nervous than I ought to have been.
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by CapitalCentre on Oct 6, 2010 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions
I have to say, as convinced as I was that Gordo wouldn’t clear a week or two ago, this week I had a feeling he would clear without a problem. As good a pickup as he would have been for any team, he’s not a proven NHL commodity – and the waiver wire’s been pretty quiet (in terms of guys actually being claimed).
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Per TSNBobMcKenzie:
“All players who were on waivers yesterday have cleared. Toronto puts Lashoff on waivers; Fla puts Paetsch on waivers. That is all. Quiet day”
I’d prefer Lashoff or Paetsch to our present 6/7.
Then again, I’d prefer a St. Bernard with hip dysplasia to our present 6/7.
'Cause the end of what it was is what it is right now...
But can you put skates on a St. Bernard?
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Oh yeah. It’s great fun. Plus, they bring you brandy on the ice.
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by Rather Bengt on Oct 6, 2010 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions
A. Gordon Cleared
Vogs has it. Gordo is in Hershey.
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Corey sez via Twitter that A.Gordon cleared waivers….color me surprised.
If you've read this far...seek help.
Link? :-)
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Yesssssssssss!
I have a twitter.
Not another Capitals blog!
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I’m pleased. That’s next season’s 3RW, for about a million less than one would have cost in the free agent market.
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Oct 6, 2010 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Caps Insider (squared) on Fehr's potential for breakout
I understand that these Caps Insider pieces are probably space-limited, but Greenberg’s entry on Fehr’s potential for breakout is pretty poor. The conclusions he comes to (PP, health, ice time), while correct, are no-brainers that require almost no statistical insight whatsoever.
The “statistics” he uses to reach those conclusions are bunk, in so far as they’re totally opaque – he just uses a bunch of players “like” Fehr as comparables. Without knowing who those players were, or what their situations were, it’s impossible to judge whether or not they’re actually comparable to Fehr. The fact that many of them regressed the following year could be the result of any number of confounding factors, but he just discusses injuries.
Stats are just numbers without context.
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by D'ohboy on Oct 6, 2010 12:31 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
every time I see something along the lines of “Is This Fehr’s Breakout Year?” I roll my eyes and ask “Were you even watching last season?!”
not directed at you, just general frustration with pieces like the CI post. (and I agree about the “stats” being used are pretty worthless)
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The title was “Will Fehr have another breakout season” (emphasis mine), to be fair. It might not be the best analysis, but the question the article was addressing was whether Fehr would be as good this season as he was last season. I disagree with his conclusion, but it was all a valid question.
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“another breakout season” makes me twitchy. I really dislike that phrase.
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Agreed, it is an odd phrase – and somewhat self-contradictory. But he did acknowledge that last year was a breakout season – which you implied that he didn’t.
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I enjoy the work he does over at RMNB, but I could get through that CI post. My eyes glazed over and it gave me a headache. which, unfortunately, has been my experience with his other CI posts.
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I’m not a big fan of his CI posts either. It seems like he dumbs them down too much.
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Considering the reading level the Washington Post writes to – your average newspaper writes to an 8th grade reading level; WaPo is slightly better than most – I would expect dumbed down for that readership.
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by DrinkingPartner on Oct 6, 2010 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions
I love how the cameraman saw him in the background and immediately knew that Ovi was worth watching closely.
"Do you see my fist? It was fists like these that built quaint Canadian cities out of the harsh Canadian wilderness, etc. etc."
Not in Seattle anymore.
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Right? Whenever Ovie is lurking in the background it’s probably best to focus on him…who was with him, Sasha? I was watching it surreptitiously at work so I couldn’t focus too carefully on what was happening (and definitely had no sound).
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Def watch it later with sound. Ovi’s “HAPPY BIRTHDAY” makes it that much better.
"Do you see my fist? It was fists like these that built quaint Canadian cities out of the harsh Canadian wilderness, etc. etc."
Not in Seattle anymore.
by SeattleCapsFan on Oct 6, 2010 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Huh?
From a G&M rookie discussion
Neuvirth, eh? A very interesting opening gambit, Mr. Duhatschek.
Last year in the playoffs, I was shooting the breeze with a couple of the Washington writers, they were talking about how detested the kid is in the Caps locker room (a few of the players later corroborated this).
"It's always good to have vikings."
Can’t find the picture from work, but I doubt Semin feels this way. He is all over that kid like a pwssy cat.
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by Alz Well That Ends Well on Oct 6, 2010 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions
I think you can use the p-word in that situation.
'Cause the end of what it was is what it is right now...
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"Do you see my fist? It was fists like these that built quaint Canadian cities out of the harsh Canadian wilderness, etc. etc."
Not in Seattle anymore.
by SeattleCapsFan on Oct 6, 2010 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Interesting.
Could be true. We don’t really know what most of these guys are like on a personal level.
Doubt JP would confirm something of this nature, but I expect he’ll rebut it if he gets info to the contrary.
Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?
I could see him as cocky, because it comes out sometimes in a beautifully understated way (“he’s good, but I’m better”), but I can’t see how that makes someone detested.
"It's always good to have vikings."
I can’t either.
And, given the unnamed sources……. big grain of salt here.
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Don’t take my silence on this as corroboration, but ask yourself how much credibility you’re gonna put in a guy making a statement based on intel he got and supposedly confirmed about a player who wasn’t even a part of the team at the time.
And true or not, it’s a pretty unprofessional thing to write, especially since it has nothing to do with anything other than rumor-mongering and smearing a kid. Don’t they have editors?
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by J.P. on Oct 6, 2010 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Yea, I’m not really sure how him supposedly being detested in the locker room has any bearing on whether he’s Calder material. Hell, he even admits as much:
All of which is completely irrelevant to the discussion – being unloved is no barrier to success
So yea, not necessary at all.
"Do you see my fist? It was fists like these that built quaint Canadian cities out of the harsh Canadian wilderness, etc. etc."
Not in Seattle anymore.
by SeattleCapsFan on Oct 6, 2010 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Who cares!?! Lots of goalies are assholes, and as long as they win their teammates get over it. A suboptimal goalie personality is one of the easiest locker room “issues” to get over. They’re in their own world a lot of the time anyway. If he wins, it won’t matter.
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Further supporting my argument that it was unnecessary to bring up in the first place.
"Do you see my fist? It was fists like these that built quaint Canadian cities out of the harsh Canadian wilderness, etc. etc."
Not in Seattle anymore.
by SeattleCapsFan on Oct 6, 2010 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions
I was simply so flabbergasted by it, I wondered if anyone had any idea where on earth it came from? So a Montreal guy wanting to get under someone’s skin?
And the editor question is relevant it seems in today’s discussions, so obviously, no they don’t. Must be a blog. :-)
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Yup, I was just supplementing your point. There are so many goalies that were known assholes but it wasn’t a problem. Barrasso, Hasek and Roy are just three that immediately come to mind.
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Ah ok, I misunderstood the excessive punctuation after “Who cares”.
"Do you see my fist? It was fists like these that built quaint Canadian cities out of the harsh Canadian wilderness, etc. etc."
Not in Seattle anymore.
by SeattleCapsFan on Oct 6, 2010 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh, that was part agreeing with you and part knocking the VC chant.
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I hate that chant so, so much.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Oct 6, 2010 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Have I really been gone so long that I don’t know what chant you’re talking about?
"Do you see my fist? It was fists like these that built quaint Canadian cities out of the harsh Canadian wilderness, etc. etc."
Not in Seattle anymore.
by SeattleCapsFan on Oct 6, 2010 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions
The dopes in the corner that do the WHO CARES! after they announce the other team’s goal.
As much as I detest that one, I hate the ALL YOUR FAULT even more.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Oct 6, 2010 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh, yea, lame.
"Do you see my fist? It was fists like these that built quaint Canadian cities out of the harsh Canadian wilderness, etc. etc."
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by SeattleCapsFan on Oct 6, 2010 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions
I kinda brought that up in one of my Box Seats columns. I wish we could do more organic things at VC instead of the dumb stuff they do now.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Oct 6, 2010 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, and what have they ever accomplished?
Team chemistry and everyone liking one another are so overrated.
Rek’d for the last sentence/bringing it back around.
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“detested” is pretty strong.
maybe something’s changed, but how “detested” can a guy be when Flash jokes that Neuvy is so quiet, he didn’t know the kid spoke Czech?
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for the globe and mail, yes. although a google search for sean gordon returns nothing hockey-related in the first 5 results pages.
wonder if our PPP friends can answer “who is Sean Gordon?”
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He lost me right here…
Subban’s got all the tools. He’ll see plenty of ice, loads of power-play time (especially in the absence of Andrei Markov), and after having dominated the AHL last year, has the ebullience and moxie to step up, and the skills to flirt with 50 points.
In the last 40 years, 14 defensemen have reached 50 points in their first season, only three in the last 25 years. And unless Subban scores 20 goals by himself, he has no chance. Montreal scored only 210 goals last year, 26th in the league.
Homer, indeed.
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Maybe they really don’t like Bjork.
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by D'ohboy on Oct 6, 2010 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Or a guy who says to the media that it’s Theo’s streak during an interview after one of his wins.
Alright, confess-how many goals are you going to make this year?
"I'm not going to tell!"
Well can you at least guarantee fifty?
"No way. I have a different objective. To win."
by capsyoungguns on Oct 6, 2010 6:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Neuvirth can’t hear what Sean Gordon says because he’s got his two Calder Cup rings plugging his ears.
by Kerry Fraser's Hairspray on Oct 6, 2010 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions 18 recs
Per Caps Report, this rumor started because Tarik was upset at Neuvy for not coming out of the shower quickly enough one time after a loss. Tarik apparently stomped around and badmouthed Neuvy in the press box repeatedly after that incident. Vogs and Stretch said there’s no indication that any of the players actually hold this view.
Coyotes up 1-0 over Riga after the 1st period on a Taylor Pyatt goal.
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Watching the game? I’m interested to know how Riga compares to the Coyotes.
by DrinkingPartner on Oct 6, 2010 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Was it just Carolina and Phoenix who went to Europe?
by DrinkingPartner on Oct 6, 2010 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions
That team is the drunken shell of Ozolinsh and a bunch of dudes.
'Cause the end of what it was is what it is right now...
Yup. They are basically Latvian National team plus a couple of other guys like Brad Trotter & Tellqvist.
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Didn’t one of their goalies get an invite to d-camp this summer?
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Not sure. Riga’s goalies both played in North America. Chris Holt is backing up Telly.
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I read somewhere that one of the goalies for Riga was the guy we had at D camp…can’t find it now.
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Yeah, I remember him (though not his name). He was Latvian at the very least, i don’t remember if he was from Dynamo Riga, specifically.
by DrinkingPartner on Oct 6, 2010 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Found it – Nauris Enkuzens . Bruce Peter from Puck Worlds is in the GDT thread if you want to ask about him.
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Make that 2-1. Prucha with the goal.
And to answer question from earlier, below are Bruce Peter’s responses on Enkuzens.
Allegedly he’s with them or an affiliate. Don’t know what the deal is, he hasn’t played yet from what I can tell. Their 3rd goalie is Edgars Lusins, so he’s well down the depth chart.
He’s 21, so he’s still old enough to play in the Russian junior league, the MHL. That’s where he played last year. Just don’t have any knowledge that he’s played at all this year.
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One of their defensemen came to DevCamp as well. Sotniek.
Fun fact – the Russian teams in the KHL have the players’ names in Cyrillic. The Lavian team (Dynamo Riga) has their players’ names in English (or more specifically, in the Latin alphabet.)
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I’m skimming the lunchtime posts and forgive me if it’s been covered, but no thoughts on Varlamov perhaps missing the home opener?
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I think I speak for many when I say…and we’re surprised? ::SIGH::
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Well it was the first time I’d heard BB cop to it, hence the minor surprise.
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Yeah, no, I’m with you there. Just wish I was more surprised that he was injured and not playing again. I’m really hoping this is all just extra precautionary so he doesn’t get hurt more, and that if it were the playoffs he’d be good to go. Hopefully.
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Whatever you want to tell yourself. That wasn’t a maintenance day and why would you think a few extra days off (after an entire summer off) is going to make him more durable 6 months from now. He is what he is.
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Just wish I was more surprised that he was injured and not playing again.
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I’m talking about the “hoping this is all just extra precautionary so he doesn’t get hurt more” part. I don’t care how long they keep him out, within two weeks of playing again I expect another “maintenance day.”
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It was kind of a tongue-in-cheek, overly optimistic thing to say. I wasn’t being serious.
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My bad. I just think Varly has his toes in the Rick DiPietro water as far as I’m concerned.
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But DiPietro had 3 straight 60-game seasons (and a 50-game season before that). It took him a while to break down.
I’ve been saying since last season that I thought Varlamov would not be our #1 goalie this year because of his injury history… I wish I didn’t still have that feeling, but I do.
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I’ll note it is neuvirth with the signed contract extension…
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I took note.
Alright, confess-how many goals are you going to make this year?
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by capsyoungguns on Oct 6, 2010 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions
I thought we were already speculating on whether Neuvy would open the season with a back-to-back, or if Sabourin would play Saturday.
You had me at no problem.
Really not a fan of a back-to-back for Neuvirth to open the season. I look at this like pitchers in baseball. You generally don’t send out your number one starter to throw nine innings in his first few starts. You want him to get into a rhythm and get his arm worked out without being overworked. Starting Sabourin in the home opener is not a big deal. Even if he loses, the game will be a dim memory by December.
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by cobracg on Oct 6, 2010 1:28 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Well, if you have to play in the AHL, there are few places that are better.
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A very misguided piece on Huffington Post recently called 30 Rock the most racist show on television thanks to Tracy Morgan’s wild, manic, madcap performance. Tonight illustrated why whoever wrote that piece is full of shit and should be punched in the face until he has a more nuanced grasp on comedy.
And there you have it: per Vogs, Varly on IR, can be activated anytime.
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so, who want to go to PD chat and give Wysh the bad news?
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Mirtle sees Montreal and the entire Southeast(minus the Caps, of course) missing the playoffs.
Seems unlikely to me. Tampa and ATL have a pretty good shot. Certainly better than NYR.
You had me at no problem.
But Atlanta and Tampa don’t have Boogaard!
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Oct 6, 2010 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Am I reading correctly that Atlanta is turning Byfuglien into a defenseman?
Ruh roh….
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Oct 6, 2010 2:20 PM EDT reply actions
Oof.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Oct 6, 2010 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Lapierre news
And its not good for the Flyers. Sounds like they don’t think he’s going to play hockey again.
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Damn. Hope he can shake those symptoms and get healthy for his family. He was a great character guy from the little I’ve seen of him through the NHL discs, interviews and whatnot.
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Terrible.
I wonder if he’s going to be one of those guys that donates their brain after they pass away for concussion research?
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Oct 6, 2010 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Bob McKenzie just tweeted the Sheldon Souray has been assigned to…Hershey. No, this isn’t a joke, and I’m as confused as you.
I guess if we can stash Nylander in Rochester.
This is beginning to remind me of an old SNL sketch, only instead of “putting your weed in there,” we’re putting our unwanted salary cap casualties in there.
'Cause the end of what it was is what it is right now...
....
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Oct 6, 2010 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
Friedman’s saying that also.
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Oh, and fuck Nigel De Jong. /OT
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As long as he’s not breaking our guys’ legs, he’s okay in my book
/Hatem Ben Arfa’d
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Oct 6, 2010 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Been waiting for you to chime in on that. As a City fan, I’m even embarrassed.
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I couldn’t help myself, he shows up here so seldomly now I had to get it in while I could.
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.....
I guess that means I get to break this out again
Wheee!!!!!!!
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Oct 6, 2010 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Why loan him to Hershey? Did they not have a spot for him in Oklahoma City?
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Oct 6, 2010 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions
On NHL Home Ice they think that he’s a cancer that they don’t want around their kids.
Sounds like a great guy to have in Hershey.
Why wouldn't you play Perreault? He's a really talented young player.
His “cancer” is, as I understnad it, supposed to be his attitude toward Edmonton management, of which he had some unpleasant things to say. Doubt this would have a bearing on his relationship with Hershey.
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There are a lot of players who have had unpleasant experiences with Edmonton’s management at all levels of the game.
Do we want to start with Brian Burke perhaps?
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Oct 6, 2010 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Why would Hershey/Washington take him? Isn’t developing young players in the A even more important than winning another Calder Cup?
You had me at no problem.
McNeill, Miskovic, Collins, Finley, and some other guys I don’t think it’s critical to keep track of.
by red army line on Oct 6, 2010 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions
I think he’s already been assigned to South Carolina
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Pretty sure he went down to the E with Stevenson and AnGus.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Oct 6, 2010 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Between Greentree, Aucoin, Gordon, and Souray, that PP should be lots of fun to watch.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Oct 6, 2010 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions
D in Hershey’s camp right now before adding Souray on loan:
Collins, Cullity (FA?), Fahey, Finley, Godfrey, Kroll, Miskovic, Nycholat, Wellar, plus injured P. McNeill
Injured/Hershey D: P McNeill; plus per Leone’s last update “Josh Godfrey exited with a stomach problem. Johann Kroll (back) remained sidelined.”
Hershey and Capitals contract D in SC: Stevenson and Yeo
Forgot about Nycholat.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Oct 6, 2010 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions
I’ve been trying to do that for years…
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Oct 6, 2010 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Fahey, the McNeills, Souray, Sean Collins, Miskovic, Wellar
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Oct 6, 2010 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions
So Souray might actually be a help there, it seems. Or am I mistaken?
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Well, yeah, since he’s probably the best defenseman in the A at the moment, no?
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Oct 6, 2010 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions
I dunno. If I have two big piles of poo that I’m being forced to deal with, I’d like to deal with the smaller pile of poo.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Oct 6, 2010 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions
We've got these guys on D?
'Cause the end of what it was is what it is right now...
by D'ohboy on Oct 6, 2010 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
They’d keep me away from the front of the net.
Why wouldn't you play Perreault? He's a really talented young player.
by jordanDC on Oct 6, 2010 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Let’s think logically for a second. What if:
The Caps are interested, but not willing to pick up Souray now.
However, they could use another body in Hershey and an experienced D to bring along some of their prospects.
They move him to Hershey on Edmonton’s dime.
The Caps then get a good look at him and Mark French’s thoughts to GMGM.
Nothing ventured, and perhaps something gained down the road.
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Souray doesn’t really fill a need here. He’s basically a PP specialist at this point.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Oct 6, 2010 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions
He’ll sure make the crease-clearing defender crowd soggy.
Why wouldn't you play Perreault? He's a really talented young player.
Hopefully drowning in their own tears.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Oct 6, 2010 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions
And perhaps GMGM agrees with you, which is why he won’t take him. Only now he gets a free look.
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There would be a logic in that but for the 2011-2012 part of his contact. The Caps aren’t going to want to pick up a $5.4 million cap hit for what is essentially “Mike Green Lite,” in terms of his likely contibutions.
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So… Nylander doesn’t go to Hershey, but Souray does. Before this is over, Andrew Gordon will be tweeting from Manitoba.
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Please don’t suggest this. Ovechwin will start sobbing in advance.
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well, really, I’m not sure this day can get any weirder. At this rate, I’m sure we’ll be negotiating a peace treaty with north Korea any minute now.
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Well, World War 1 did just officially end this weekend when the Germans made their last reparations payments.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Oct 6, 2010 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions
It’ll never end for me until the Austro-Hungarian Empire is restored to its rightful position of glory.
'Cause the end of what it was is what it is right now...
Lousy Habsburgs!!
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Oct 6, 2010 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions
really? how did I not know this?
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(Sorry for the OT)
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Oct 6, 2010 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions
I had just (mistakenly) assumed that reparations debt was forgiven after WWII and all that. silly me.
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Head on over to OT…
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Oct 6, 2010 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, World War 1 did just officially end this weekend when the Germans made their last reparations payments.
yeah, then they went and bombed Pearl Harbor
If you've read this far...seek help.
by ThePeerless on Oct 6, 2010 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Don’t stop him. He’s on a roll.
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Souray
Ok, so now Edmonton must move him through re-entry in order to get him off their books.
At re-entry, he’ll only cost half of his current salary (since EDM would have to eat the remainder).
Is Souray worth it at $2.7M?
I say yes.
'Cause the end of what it was is what it is right now...
He had a bad year last year, so he’s due for another great year, right?
Why wouldn't you play Perreault? He's a really talented young player.
Dunno if anybody can remember, but he was on NHL allstar game roster in 2009. He must have done something right then.
He put up 50-some-odd points as a defenseman and 20 goals. That’s a pretty good year for an offensive D-man. Did the same thing four years ago with the Canadiens.
The issue with him is injuries and his no-trade clause. He’s only played 130-some-odd games over the past 3 years, though he got knocked out last season after he broke his hand in a fight and his recovery was stalled by an infection.
The other issue with him is that, while a pretty decent offensive guy with a hell of a shot, he’s not very good as a defenseman – especially after a streak of injuries in the last few years.
Ugh. Just say no, GMGM.
If anyone needs me, I'll be at Kettler.
In a vacuum it’s not THAT bad a price for him. However, keep in mind that he’s still got another year of a $5.4 million cap hit after this, and that’s waaaay too much for a guy who is basically a slightly more talented Marc-Andre Bergeron – all PP shot, nothing else.
If anyone needs me, I'll be at Kettler.
If a guy gets claimed on re-entry, the hit’s split half and half for the life of the contract, so it’d only be 2.7M next year too.
Oh.
Still…I stand by my “just say no” take. We really, really don’t want Souray here. He’s just not very good, and we already have a couple of not-very-good defensemen who are overpaid.
If anyone needs me, I'll be at Kettler.
He has to be better than Sloan and Erskine, though, right? With no other solutions readily apparent, I think there’s a strong case to be made for him.
…you know, I’m not convinced that he is. He doesn’t have Sloan’s speed or Erskine’s toughness (anymore), he’s way more injury-prone and even his one upside – his offense – has slipped in the last few years.
If anyone needs me, I'll be at Kettler.
Souray is light-years ahead of both of them. His salary may be too high and he might be brittle, but he’s still much, much better than they are.
'Cause the end of what it was is what it is right now...
I’m not entirely convinced, but even if that’s true, you’re basically saying you’d be willing to pay almost $3million for a guy who would be an upgrade…over our 6/7 D. We can find better (or at least the equivalent) for cheaper.
If anyone needs me, I'll be at Kettler.
We’ll be paying more than that for Tom Poti next year.
'Cause the end of what it was is what it is right now...
We will, yes. Of course Tom Poti, unlike Souray, is actually a fairly legit defenseman. If we’re paying him that much to be a 6/7 guy by that point it’s still a better option than Souray.
Running out of ways to say this, folks…he’s awful. And old (and getting older). And slow (and getting slower). And injury-prone (which won’t be helped by the getting older and slower). And his offensive “upside” is about all he brings, and even that’s a stretch these days (you know, because of the older, slower, and more injury-prone thing).
If anyone needs me, I'll be at Kettler.
And he’d still be behind Green in fighting for that offensive TOI.
by red army line on Oct 6, 2010 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Poti is 9 months younger than Souray.
Souray had an injury plagued year last season, but the season before that he scored 23 goals and 53 points — better than Poti’s best season.
Souray’s not worth what he’s being paid and he’s injury prone, but he’s a much, much better player than Poti.
Souray’s not worth what he’s being paid and he’s injury prone, but he’s a much, much better player than Poti.
Oof. I think I just pulled a muscle cringing. He’s better offensively – defensively, he’s really not.
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He’s nowhere near Poti defensively. He’s better offensively, but that’s not what we need.
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Six guys who can pass the puck out of the defensive zone sounds like a tough defense corps to crack, considering all have decent pure defensive ability as well. I guess I’d really like to see his speed first.
by red army line on Oct 6, 2010 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions
I think you’re massively under-rating Souray. He’s a PP stud and he’s not as bad defensively as you’re making him out. He was third on EDM in 08-09 in GAON/60.
Playing with worse teammates and against better competition, he had his team’s third-best Corsi Rel while starting slightly more of his shifts in the defensive zone.
'Cause the end of what it was is what it is right now...
He may be a PP stud, but when’s he gonna get that PP time? Ovie and Green are always on the points, and the only other one I see getting PP time is Carlson unless one of those two in injured/suspended.
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And I think you’re massively overrating him, particularly at this price tag. I’m amazed by how many people are willing to take this guy on at $2.7 million a year when so many were balking at giving slightly less than that to a guy who is a better defenseman.
He was third on EDM in 08-09 in GAON/60.
In 08-09, maybe. In 09-10 he was the worst – granted, he only played 37 games…but that’s not exactly a ringing endorsement in itself (especially considering that in 07-08 he only played 26 games. And he’s only finished with a positive plus/minus twice in the last decade…and only 5 times ever, 2 of which came while playing for a little team in NJ.
If anyone needs me, I'll be at Kettler.
Plus-minus doesn’t mean much. The Edmonton teams have been simply bad, and the Montreal teams were generally outscored at even strength.
Montreal only recently started this trend of being largely outscored at even strength. When Souray was there they were much better 5-on-5 and their PP was lousy.
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We found the player that Becca H doesn’t like!
Why wouldn't you play Perreault? He's a really talented young player.
In 09-10 he was the worst
I don’t think that 09-10 is an accurate reflection of the talent level of any player on EDM. It was a total clusterfuck of a season.
'Cause the end of what it was is what it is right now...
85 points is a hell of a lot better than 62.
I get it, you don’t like Souray.
I think he’s a better player than our present 6/7 defensemen, and if the marginal cost of acquiring him is as low as $1.45m, I think that’s worth it.
'Cause the end of what it was is what it is right now...
For the next two years. Two years of that head case on our blue line and you can kiss any maturity and growth the kids might have gained goodbye.
And no…I don’t. I’d go so far as to say I strongly dislike him, both for his performance and the kind of guy he’s proven to be. He’s the last thing this team needs. There are better options, and cheaper, and less terrifying, than Souray.
If anyone needs me, I'll be at Kettler.
Two years of that head case on our blue line and you can kiss any maturity and growth the kids might have gained goodbye.
C’mon, that’s ridiculous. No one player has the power to do anything like that. If we’re gonna debate the pros and cons of a move, let’s be realistic about it.
…but reality isn’t fun :(
But seriously, it may not have THAT much of an impact – doesn’t mean it wouldn’t have some, and I’d prefer to keep him as far away from our kids as possible. He’s not the kind of vet you bring in to mentor your young D.
If anyone needs me, I'll be at Kettler.
I’m with you. Old + cap hit + character issues = no thanks for me.
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by SmallZ827 on Oct 6, 2010 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
We had Joe Corvo last year in the playoffs playing with Carlson. Similar dicey rep but I don’t think JC came out too scarred.
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McKenzie says Caps have “”http://twitter.com/TSNBobMcKenzie/status/26577811982" target="new">no interest" in Souray…
Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?
Basically this. He’s still very much a legitimate NHL player in the same way that Cristobal Huet is — a contributor if you set aside his contractual status. That status changes in a huge way if he’s claimed on re-entry.
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by Knee high to a duck on Oct 6, 2010 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions
The salary cap era has caused people to do some strange things with their evaluation.
Redden is still better than 50% of NHL defensemen, yet he’s in the AHL.
Drury is still better than 50% of NHL forwards, yet he’s an albatross.
Outside of their contracts, these guys are still good players. For half the cost. . .
'Cause the end of what it was is what it is right now...
But that’s not what I said, is it? I said you’d be paying him that much. I didn’t say it was how much you’d be paying the defense overall. And $2.7 million for Souray hurts more than paying Sloan and/or Erskine.
If anyone needs me, I'll be at Kettler.
I’d rather have Souray at $2.7m than Erskine at $1.25m
ANY DAY OF THE WEEK.
'Cause the end of what it was is what it is right now...
But would you rather have Souray at $2.7 for two years over Erskine at $1.25 for one year for this team right now?
At a $2M net cap hit, no thanks to me for Souray.
One, it makes a real 2C that much harder to fit in.
Two, there have got to be cheaper upgrades to the 6D position out there.
Three, he’s a malcontent and this team already has some makeup issues, I think.
Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?
He’s a malcontent in Edmonton. Wouldn’t you be, too?
'Cause the end of what it was is what it is right now...
Well, yes, if they demote Erskine they save more, but I’m assuming the club keeps Erskine for his BCCD attributes and demotes Sloane.
Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?
Sloan’s not a legit NHL defenseman, and Souray is, so I think he beats him there. As for Erskine, is there much difference other than the fact that Souray’s offensive game is vastly superior?
I think Souray is still a legitimate 4D in the NHL if he’s in the lineup. I’d take him in a heartbeat over Sloan/Erskine.
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by Knee high to a duck on Oct 6, 2010 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Can a re-entry waiver claim be made after the trade deadline (i.e. if the Caps didn’t want to deal with any cap hit and just pick him up as the #7 D for the playoffs or something like that)?
by Kerry Fraser's Hairspray on Oct 6, 2010 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions
A player claimed via re-entry after the trade deadline: The player is not eligible to play for the team who claimed him during that season’s playoffs.
Ahhh, that’s what I’d figure but wasn’t sure. Thanks.
by Kerry Fraser's Hairspray on Oct 6, 2010 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions
I suppose your cheeky response means you don’t support the call-up of Mr. Sheldon (which is his nickname if he ever makes it )
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But that’s his real name. Why would his real name also be his nickname? He’s not STEVE HOLT!
by DrinkingPartner on Oct 6, 2010 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions
If we take Souray, no Brad Richards at the deadline, right?
Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?
Presumably we’d have to trade someone for Richards, which could free up more space.
Why wouldn't you play Perreault? He's a really talented young player.
Dallas won’t want to take salary back, I’m guessing.
'Cause the end of what it was is what it is right now...
Or could wait until the deadline for Souray as well and only pay the pro-rated portion.
by Kerry Fraser's Hairspray on Oct 6, 2010 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Very nice to see the Clips getting 700+ comments a day again. Hockey season is sooo close!
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To be fair, it isnt eveyday you get a writer claiming that Neuvy isnt liked in the dressing room, Andrew Gordon clearing waivers, Sheldon Souray being assigned to your AHL affiliate, and Corey Masisak writing about DMG in his diary
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TSN's got some numbers wrong
Not the biggest deal, but the quoted comparison stats in the Crosby description are not quite right. How can Sid have the 3rd highest playoff PPG in history (behind Gretzky and Lemiux) when Ovi’s is 1.43ppg?
The criteria is probably set to at least 50 games played, or something similar.
The guy is Peter Schumpmaker. Lord knows what a schump is, but you can bet your bippy his ancestors made them. What he's doing is far worse than crafting fine schumps.
by Steckel Me Elmo on Oct 6, 2010 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Possibly, but there’s a shitload of errors in the TSN list. Some of them are listed further up in the thread, some are probably still undiscovered.
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by Knee high to a duck on Oct 6, 2010 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions
I just took a quick look at hockey-reference. The 50 game limit would definitely satisfy. Though I admittedly have not really looked through all the stats and errors that were discussed. So keeping that in mind, I’d say it’s pretty safe to assume it’s just poor fact checking.
The guy is Peter Schumpmaker. Lord knows what a schump is, but you can bet your bippy his ancestors made them. What he's doing is far worse than crafting fine schumps.
by Steckel Me Elmo on Oct 6, 2010 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions
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