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Capital Ups and Downs: Week 3

Our weekly look at individual Washington Capitals' ups and downs:

Goalies Trend Notes
Michal Neuvirth http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/217757/dash.png Left the game against Boston on Tuesday after allowing two goals on seven shots in just 12:42, but was apparently under the weather. Bounced back with a strong 47 seconds of relief in Beantown effort in Saturday night's OT win.
Dany Sabourin http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/217757/dash.png Something tells me that DSabs will know all the rest stops between D.C. and Hershey by the time this season is over.
Semyon Varlamov http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/217725/cross.png Injured (again) after looking pretty good in both Bruins games.
Defensemen
Karl Alzner http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/217757/dash.png After a rough first period (minus-2) on Tuesday night, Alzner settled down and went five periods without being scored upon before looking bad on Andrew Ladd's goal Saturday night. Has now gone 54 NHL games without a goal (and 15 games without a point).
John Carlson http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/217757/dash.png Through eight games, Carlson is the only Caps blueliner with more than one point (though he didn't have one this week), and, when pressed into the number one defenseman role on Saturday night, he responded with a plus-two rating. Still, Carly's play is providing observers with plenty of reminders that he's a rookie, and just a 20-year-old rook at that.
John Erskine http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/217733/up.png Erskine was on the ice for four of the ten goals the Caps allowed this week (two of which came shorthanded). But he dished out 13 hits and blocked nine shots, fought Milan Lucic and, most importantly, seemed to be the only Cap to care that Dustin Byfuglien ran his goalie, so he gets an up arrow.
Mike Green http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/217725/cross.png Until he looks comfortable winding up and unleashing a slapper and skating a regular shift, Green is injured in our book.
Tom Poti http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/217725/cross.png Played both Boston games (and was minus-one in each) before missing Saturday night's game with an undisclosed injury.
Jeff Schultz http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/217757/dash.png Sarge's streak of minutes on ice without being scored upon came to an end on Tuesday, and he ended up being on the ice for four opposition goals this week (three of which came at even strength), including Evander Kane 's game-tying tally late Saturday night.
Tyler Sloan http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/217757/dash.png Sloan averaged 14:45 of ice time per game - the lowest of any Caps rearguard who skated a regular shift - but was on the ice for a team-high (tied) four goals against. His secondary assist on Saturday night's game-winner moved him into a tie for second among the team's defensemen with one point. Ouch.
Forwards
Nicklas Backstrom http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/217737/down.png Just a brutal week for the team's top pivot who was pointless, at least minus-one in each of the three games, and on the ice for four even-strength goals against (and not one Caps tally). No Cap has been on the ice for more even-strength goals against (seven) than Backstrom so far this season.
Jay Beagle http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/217737/down.png Recalled to provide energy, Beagle had a terrible 2010-11 debut (by just about any metric) against Atlanta that featured a minus-one rating, a neutral-zone tripping penalty and not much else in just 6:37 of ice time.
Matt Bradley http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/217725/cross.png Made it through a full practice on Friday, so he should be close to a return to the lineup.
Jason Chimera http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/217757/dash.png With a goal and an assist on the Caps' only two goals through two games this week, Chimmer looked to be headed for an up arrow. But for a guy with his role on this team, he was a bit too docile in responding to Byfuglien plowing Neuvirth.
Eric Fehr http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/217757/dash.png A five-game goalless streak is a bit concerning, but if he keeps shooting (three SOGs in three of his last four games), good things will happen, as evidenced by his shot-turned-rebound on the OT goal Saturday night.
Tomas Fleischmann http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/217757/dash.png Flash has gone six games without an assist - certainly troubling for a guy who is, at least nominally, a center. But he cashed in on that juicy rebound in overtime against the Thrash and hasn't been on the ice for a single goal against of any kind since the first period of opening night, so that's certainly something positive.
Boyd Gordon http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/217749/unsure.png Healthy but resting. Um, OK.
Matt Hendricks http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/217757/dash.png Came up a goal shy of a Gordie Howe Hat Trick on Tuesday, and will likely try to complete the Gregory Campbell Hat Trick (the two have fought twice now in the past month) the next time the Caps face the B's.
Marcus Johansson http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/217757/dash.png MoJo's first NHL goal was the Caps' only tally on Tuesday, and he was actually above 50% in the faceoff dot for the first time in his young career on Thursday. Missed Saturday's game with a minor hip flexor injury.
D.J. King http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/217757/dash.png Skated a whopping seven shifts (4:05 of ice time) on Tuesday and watched the next two games.
Mike Knuble http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/217737/down.png Knuble sure got old, fast this summer, didn't he? He hasn't scored since opening night, is pointless since the game that followed, and has been a minus player in four of his last six games.
Brooks Laich http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/217757/dash.png No points on the week, but a plus-two rating against Atlanta and 14 shots on goal for the week are hopefully a sign of good things to come.
Alex Ovechkin http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/217737/down.png An 0-for-11 week on the power-play certainly isn't all AO's fault (even if he did skate 94% of the 20:11 of extra man time the Caps had over the three games), and pointless weeks will happen, even for Alex Ovechkin. But his shift length is a problem (still) and may be a sign of something more troubling... but we're not quite there yet.
Mathieu Perreault http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/217733/up.png The l'il dynamo provided the spark the second line had been missing as he finished his season debut against Atlanta with a couple of helpers, a plus-three rating, and a 64% win percentage on faceoffs. The question, of course, is whether or not he can sustain his high energy and level of play. Here's hoping he gets a chance to answer that question.
Alexander Semin http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/217733/up.png Last week in this space, we noted that Semin "seems to be on the verge of a big game. Or two. Or three." Well, this week saw a 10-shot effort on Tuesday and a hat trick on Saturday. Yeah, he's feelin' it.
David Steckel http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/217757/dash.png Still looking for his first point of the season, Steckel is winning draws and contributing little more (and that includes less-than-exceptional penalty killing, and a weak response to Byfuglien's bulldozing of his netminder).

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Backstrom, Backstrom, Backstrom… Needs to find his game asap, or that whole “improving every year in the NHL” thing will end this season.

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by Ninjak on Oct 25, 2010 11:06 AM EDT reply actions  

Don’t know what would have been more embarrassing for Steckel, being used as a punching bag or falling down.

Terrible effort the last week and it shows. Can the 2C position get an up arrow for shaking off the fleischmann on it? It’s had a pretty decent showing after being lackluster the first few games.

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by sydtron on Oct 25, 2010 11:08 AM EDT reply actions  

He was probably remembering his last attempt at enforcing, which resulted in an embarrassing ass-kicking at the hands of Zenon Konopka in Tampa last year..

by Jeff T on Oct 26, 2010 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Knuble

Knuble’s timing seems off and it is a concern, but I give him credit for some memorable/successful PK shifts.

by sk84fun_dc on Oct 25, 2010 11:11 AM EDT reply actions  

Knuble didn’t look great to start last year, either. He doesn’t drive the top line and right now his linemates are struggling hard. He’ll come around when Ovie and Backstrom get their game back in order.

'Cause the end of what it was is what it is right now...

by D'ohboy on Oct 25, 2010 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

Alex seems unfocused, and it has an effect on Knubs, although Saturday it was fun to see him have one of those games where all he does is hit.
I believe in the prevailing attitude that when Nicky and Alex get re-aligned some time, watch out.

by S h a g g y on Oct 25, 2010 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

He was definitely a lot more aggressive on Saturday than normal. Hopefully that helps him refocus. He seems to need those games every once in a while.

by psuscott1 on Oct 25, 2010 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed. Knubs is there to finish plays that Ovi and Backs start. Those two need to get on track in order for Knubs to be at his best. There have been some close plays that Knubs hasn’t been able to convert. I still would pencil him in for 20-ish goals assuming good health and continued 1st line duty.

Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...

by dcsportsfan1 on Oct 25, 2010 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Agree, it’s a concern, not a crisis :)

by sk84fun_dc on Oct 25, 2010 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

Through 8 games last year, Knuble had 2 goals and 5 assists.

by RCheli on Oct 25, 2010 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

True, but Ovie also had 9 goals and 7 assists, and Backstrom had 2 goals and 9 assists. The whole line is starting slow, which is why Knuble isn’t benefiting from their offense like he did last year – plus Knuble’s 5 assists all came at the end of those first 8 games, and he didn’t really seem to settle in until December.

I think as guys get older (especially when they don’t skate at all over the summer) it just takes a little longer for them to find their groove. I’d expect him to find it faster this year than last but I think he still gets a little grace period before we start to worry.

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by Becca H on Oct 25, 2010 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Right, but you give Knuble some time to gel with his new linemates the first season (which is why he started off slowly the first 5 games), but he shouldn’t have that problem now.

I think the thing that Boudreau has to figure out is Knuble dragging down Ovechkin and Backstrom or is it just all three playing poorly.

by RCheli on Oct 25, 2010 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s gotta be all 3 of them, cause for a while Knuble wasn’t out on the PP with those two and they still weren’t making much happen

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by Elliotte on Oct 25, 2010 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

knuble also wasn’t on the first line to begin last season. nor was he on the first PP unit.

by Natty Bumppo on Oct 25, 2010 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

you give Knuble some time to gel with his new linemates the first season (which is why he started off slowly the first 5 games), but he shouldn’t have that problem now.

You’ve got no basis to conclude that Knuble started slowly because he was trying to gel with new linemates. Maybe that was it, but it’s just as possible that he just starts slow because he’s old and doesn’t skate a ton over the summer. Asserting it in a parenthetical doesn’t make it true.

That line just stinks. That’s it. AO, when he’s on, doesn’t get dragged down by anyone. Not Zubrus, not Halpern, not Clark. He’s not on his game right now and neither is Backstrom. It’s silly to expect Knuble to produce under those circumstances.

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by Rob Parker on Oct 25, 2010 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Come to think of it, two years ago our first line got off to a crappy start as well. Backstrom was still dogged by the ankle he had sprained during training camp. Kozlov was having groin issues. And Ovi was worried about his dying grandfather.

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by CapsFan75 on Oct 25, 2010 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed about his PK play Sat night. Also, I’d give him points for whatever it was that he said in the locker room after the first period that got the team to focus for the rest of the night.

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by bagace on Oct 25, 2010 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Schultz

The even seems a tad generous, but I understand that he has been handed a tough assignment and his teammates haven’t helped him very much.

'Cause the end of what it was is what it is right now...

by D'ohboy on Oct 25, 2010 11:15 AM EDT reply actions  

Yeah…tough week for the whole team other than the second line, really.

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by zephyr on Oct 25, 2010 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Of course, we could say that about the whole season thus far.

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by CapsFan75 on Oct 25, 2010 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

The first appearance of the question av, nice.

"I’m happy to have contributed to this league, to have done something important in my career, I’m proud, but you always will think you still could’ve done more, but tonight tells I’ve done things well."

by Bald Pollack on Oct 25, 2010 11:17 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Wasn’t Sabourin’s nickname on the Pens “Sabu”?

by S h a g g y on Oct 25, 2010 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, cool nickname too since it’s a real word.

Think twice before you speak, and then you may be able to say something more insulting than if you spoke right out at once.

by zephyr on Oct 25, 2010 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

But his shift length is a problem (still) and may be a sign of something more troubling… but we’re not quite there yet.

By “something more troubling” do you mean he and BB are at odds or Ovi can’t remember which bench to skate to?

Also, I know DJ only played one game (and had less ice time than the mites on ice) but he was really horrible during those 5 minutes. Totally whiffed on a forecheck attempt in Boston. He doesn’t need to fight to have a good week, but at least make body contact.

Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...

by dcsportsfan1 on Oct 25, 2010 11:21 AM EDT reply actions  

By "something more troubling" do you mean he and BB are at odds or Ovi can’t remember which bench to skate to?

I assumed the former, but also agree we’re not there just yet, mainly because:

1. Ovie’s behaved this way since day 1, and BB seems to give him some slack in that department, so I’m not so sure that shift length is a concept BB really gives #8 serious grief about (not saying he shouldn’t, just that he doesn’t), and if it was something BB wanted to enforce, he’s probably already waited too long to start now.

2. While I have absolutely less than zero idea what goes on behind closed doors in that locker room, I haven’t personally seen anything to make me believe Gabby has “lost the team”, or that the players have gone rogue on him.

Attitudes can quickly change amongst players in a slump, but at least the team is finding a way to win (some of) these games, so at least things haven’t gotten desperate yet. Let’s get through this road trip and re-visit next week.

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by PaintDrinkingPete on Oct 25, 2010 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t dislike King, I just think w/ Erskine and Hendricks (and Chimera should) providing the toughness, he’s unnecessary..

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by bigeugene on Oct 25, 2010 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

I wonder if the Caps would have picked up King at all if they knew what they’d be able to get out of Hendricks?

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by PaintDrinkingPete on Oct 25, 2010 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think the Caps thought King had a bit more upside than he has shown so far so maybe they would have still picked him up.

I don’t think they were expecting such a good game coming from Hendricks though. He’s really played pretty well considering his role. It seems like he is still adjusting a bit too so hopefully better play is to come.

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by zephyr on Oct 25, 2010 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dear GMGM,

Release King and keep Matty up here. We are a better team with Matty on the roster than with a guy who is only going to “play” in 10 games this year. We’ve got enough “enforcers” in Hendricks, Erskine, Bradley, and Chimmer. King is dead (heavy)weight on this roster and taking up a spot that MP deserves to have.

That is all.

by anders1115 on Oct 25, 2010 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

If you actually want to see MP play, I am not sure this is the solution since King is usually a scratch anyways. You have to figure out which regular to replace with him.

by MikeBrady on Oct 25, 2010 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

You rotate the scratches between 39, 15, and 10.

"Because the game is not just about fighting no more. " D.J. King

by bigeugene on Oct 25, 2010 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

There’s no reason a healthy Gordon should ever be scratched, and I’d argue similarly for Brads.

by brs03 on Oct 25, 2010 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’d agree if healthy Gordon weren’t an oxymoron.

Ok, let’s say Gordo is 100%. HS Stecks and then decide between 10/26 based on matchup.

Now if only they’d trade Flash, we wouldn’t have these dilemmas. Going to beat the dead horse again.

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by bigeugene on Oct 25, 2010 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gordon has been healthy this season though.

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by zephyr on Oct 25, 2010 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Then why isn’t he playing? I’m not snarking, his sitting has been very mysterious, even by Caps standards.

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by bigeugene on Oct 25, 2010 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Therein lies the rub. When BB comes out and says “he’s healthy” (which he basically did), what does that mean? So many questions…

by brs03 on Oct 25, 2010 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe it means “He’s healthy, but we’ve seen how guys get re-injured lately when we get them right back on the ice, so we’re going to give him some time.”

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by jordanDC on Oct 25, 2010 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

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by EmilyB on Oct 25, 2010 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah. He’s either not healthy, which I think is the easiest explanation, but it begs the question, why the flat out denial, when other injured guys get at least a D2D tag?

So if he is healthy, then the only scenarios I can come up with are disciplinary, trade-related, or some sort of investigation. Note that I have zero evidence for the latter; it’s just something that might lead to him being told to stay away from the team. Gordo doesn’t seem like the type to invite disciplinary action, but who really knows?

That leaves a pending trade, but it seems strange that anyone would want a grinder with a bad back.

But anyhoo, I agree with you, if he was healthy and welcome around the team, he’d be practicing, etc.

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by fat_daddyo on Oct 25, 2010 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

The whole Gordon thing is very strange, considering it’s coming at a time when at least one blogger (I forget who) reports that Gordon does the “little” things right.

In one interview, Boudreau actually reported that Gordon was “hurting”. This was just before he was reported to be a “healthy” scratch.

If healthy, I was wondering if he’s mentally “burned out” but why would that be an issue this early in the season and why so long. Normally, I expect “healthy” or “resting” scratches to be one gamers and not drag on and on.

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by CapsFan75 on Oct 25, 2010 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

No one knows except Gordo, BB, Ted, and GMGM.

Boudreau, when asked if Boyd Gordon was injured and not a suspension or family leave: “He’s healthy – we just decided to rest him.”

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by zephyr on Oct 25, 2010 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

No one knows except Gordo, BB, Ted, and GMGM.

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by SmallZ827 on Oct 25, 2010 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

too soon.

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by bilspacecadet on Oct 25, 2010 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hanging out Ilya maybe? OK, that’s poor snark, but it kind of falls into that grey territory of looking bad with no one saying anything, including the player.

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by gfcaps fan on Oct 25, 2010 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

If it were anyone other than Gordo it might start some speculation. Considering the player, though, its just strange.

by brs03 on Oct 25, 2010 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Personally, I lean towards Steckel/Gordon is the Flash/Fehr of 4th liners.

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by apk3000 on Oct 25, 2010 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Actually, coming from BB about an oft injured player I think that’s almost a guarantee that Gordon’s not healthy.

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by Killer_Carlson on Oct 25, 2010 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I believe the designation of Gordon as “healthy but being rested” as much as I believed Green was a “healthy” scratch for 2 consecutive games this last April.

The news later leaked out that Green’s wrist was bothering him.

If anyone believes that Gordon is really healthy, I got a bridge in Brooklyn I’d like to sell.

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by CapsFan75 on Oct 25, 2010 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Probably personal in nature, given the way it’s been handled.

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by Ovechwin on Oct 25, 2010 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

And depending on the shenanigans the team is playing, may have been healthy throughout the week. Who knows.

by brs03 on Oct 25, 2010 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s easy to say now, harder to say if (when?) Perreault starts looking more like a rookie.

It’s a big thing to ask the team to rely on two rookie Cs every night in the top 9.

by brs03 on Oct 25, 2010 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

True, especially w/ a banged up D.

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by bigeugene on Oct 25, 2010 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, with MP85 up AND MJ90 in the lineup, you have to find somewhere for Flash to play (no jokes here), based on the current lineup. Basically, you’ll have a healthy scratch out of the 2nd/3rd line guys nightly if/when everyone is healthy.

Is that an unrealistic scenario? Not really, but it’s not an ideal one either.

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by PaintDrinkingPete on Oct 25, 2010 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Doesn’t look good for Fehr.

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by jordanDC on Oct 25, 2010 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Doesnt look good as in Fehr riding the pine, or Fehr being expendable in a trade for a defenseman?

I maintain Fehr is our most attractive asset in any potential trade.

by S h a g g y on Oct 25, 2010 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

As in Fehr riding the pine given Boudreau’s (extremely) well-documented preference for another top-9 winger.

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by jordanDC on Oct 25, 2010 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

8-19-22
28-85-21
14-90-16
25-39/15-26/10

Waive King.

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by bigeugene on Oct 25, 2010 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why would they waive a guy who they traded for after he re-upped for two-years?

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by Bald Pollack on Oct 25, 2010 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Stop being so rational. Forgot it was 2 years. Maybe Boogard will get hurt and we can trade him to NYR?

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by bigeugene on Oct 25, 2010 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Leave it to NY to take on everyone else’s enforcers and pests.

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by CapsFan75 on Oct 25, 2010 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

They wouldn’t…but it doesn’t change the fact that (as it turns out), there doesn’t seem to really be a roster spot for him right now. I think if Hendricks hadn’t come along, it would be a different story.

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by PaintDrinkingPete on Oct 25, 2010 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, but the expectation/presumption coming into the year was that he’d be lucky if he played 60 games. So what’s the big deal in having him sit if that’s what was going to happen most of the time anyway?

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by Bald Pollack on Oct 25, 2010 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

That whole trade/signing was a mistake from the beginning, no? King isn’t the type of player that the Caps need. It’s the Cooke/Ott/Tootoo kind of a player that that need. (The kind of guy you hate on opposing teams but love on your own.)

by RCheli on Oct 25, 2010 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Disagree. The East got a ton tougher this year, the Caps can’t rely on Erskine and Brads to take the same type of a beating they did before.

The King deal would look so much better right now if they actually used him a little bit. But then it might be tough to play him if you’ve also got Steckel playing.

by brs03 on Oct 25, 2010 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

I dunno, if he develops a second dimension in this system he could actually be worth something.

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by Bald Pollack on Oct 25, 2010 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

DJ has spent the best part of two full seasons recovering from injuries. He’s finally fully healthy and he’s been doing a lot of extra work with the coaches. I think he will be able to contribute.

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by EmilyB on Oct 25, 2010 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think he will be able to contribute with his fists.

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by Carl Putnam on Oct 25, 2010 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Do you really think he’s going to do that? No offense to the guy, but he’s never shown much in the NHL other than fighting (9 points in 104 games), and he’s already 26. He’s not a guy who will play on the PK and he’ll struggle on any team to get more than 7 or 8 minutes of ice time a game.

He is what he is.

by RCheli on Oct 25, 2010 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don’t get me wrong, I’m not expecting a revelation, but he’s a low-risk asset (who’s played 13 games in 2 years) that on 5v5 could potentially be better than Brashear was his last few years.

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by Bald Pollack on Oct 25, 2010 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

The difference is, Brashear’s last couple of seasons in the NHL were terrible, but that was because he was in his mid-30s. Early in his career, he was a decent player who could score some and still beat the crap out of you. Heck he scored 66 points in 62 games one year in the AHL when he was 22.

by RCheli on Oct 25, 2010 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sorry, I figured King not scoring was a given. ;) In Brashear’s last couple of years his GAON/60 wasn’t too bad (even if the Corsi was). If when he plays he can be decent defensively on ES than I’m fine with it. Anything else past that is ambrosia.

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by Bald Pollack on Oct 25, 2010 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

I love ambrosia!

Talented teams don’t need fighters. Heck, Goddard’s dressed for just 3 Pens games this year, and the only game he had more than 3 minutes of ice time was in the Flyers game that got a bit out of control (5-1) and he was just skating around making sure nobody took any cheap shots.

Obviously McPhee knows more about hockey that I ever will, but as the current Caps team is comprised, I’m really surprised that he sent away a guy in SDR who is exactly the type of player that I think the Caps need.

by RCheli on Oct 25, 2010 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

It sounds like SDR isn’t making many friends in the Blues org, so maybe there was something attitude related that never really surfaced here.

by brs03 on Oct 25, 2010 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Where do you see SDR not making friends in the Blues organization?

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by Bman21212 on Oct 26, 2010 2:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

Chimera can fill that role and do more, so SDR was expendable. Then along came Hendricks, who can also fill that type of role.

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by timmyv38 on Oct 25, 2010 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Right, and GMGM knows that. And presumably he thinks that is what the Caps need.

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by Rob Parker on Oct 25, 2010 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Or send Chimera to the 4th line and have a vigorous competition among the healthy grinders.

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by Rob Parker on Oct 25, 2010 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Given our current personnel, sending Chimera to the 4th line is the most logical move.

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by CapsFan75 on Oct 25, 2010 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t think we’ve played the teams where DJ is going to have an impact (ie NYR, Flyers, Pens, etc).

Hendy, Brads and Chimmer are middleweights and I wouldn’t consider Erskine a heavy weight although he’s not afraid to dance with big dudes. He needs to pick his spots. King is the only true heavyweight we’ve got.

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by dcsportsfan1 on Oct 25, 2010 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not a big fan of enforcers, but I agree with this thought…the reason King was picked up was in large part, IMO, due to the signings by the NYR and Philadelphia and others; teams the Caps haven’t played yet.

by sk84fun_dc on Oct 25, 2010 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, exactly. A friend of mine asked why don’t they try to trade/unload Steckel to make room for MP85 (I won’t get into the entire line of reasoning as to why), but I basically responded with the same thing…even without Steckel, that still doesn’t really clear a lineup spot for Perrault. A roster spot maybe, but not a lineup spot.

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by PaintDrinkingPete on Oct 25, 2010 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

It makes it possible to shift players around. Flash to the wing, Chimera to the 4th line (at least once in awhile), Gordon/Hendricks at C.

It makes it a great deal easier to keep Perreault up, if that’s what they want to do.

by brs03 on Oct 25, 2010 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

The only problem really is the 2nd line.

The play of a very good center would pick up the entire 2nd line and make Laich a much better option than he is now on the 2nd line and help Semin stay consistant.

With MP85 or Mackan on the 3rd line, we would have a much more natural 2nd and 3rd line set up, without forcing any players that shouldnt be playing on certain lines. In a perfect world, Flash would be a winger and our greatest roster dilemma for the offense would be trying to get Chimera more ice time between the 3rd and 4th lines

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by kingzman264 on Oct 25, 2010 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m not exactly a Laich booster, but even I think he’s played very well this season to date. Some of that might be Semin deciding to carry that line around on his back, but I have Brooks down as having a very solid first eight games. He’s doing a better job at practicing what he preaches in the hardwork category, even if he’s not an omnipresent shadow in the crease.

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by Knee high to a duck on Oct 25, 2010 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t think it’s just Sasha pulling the line, Brooks has been great in faceoffs when needed, and the two of them have been good pressuring on the PK together.

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by Elliotte on Oct 25, 2010 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Some of that might be Semin deciding to carry that line around on his back, but I have Brooks down as having a very solid first eight games.

Some, not all. I meant to convey that even if Semin’s been having great games (he has), Laich was playing very well. Not something I would have said in the aggregate last season.

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by Knee high to a duck on Oct 25, 2010 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’d argue the case that laich and semin have been carrying flash. Seems their best games have come with MJ90 and MattyP at center. Surprsing allegation I know

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by breaklance on Oct 25, 2010 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

BB commented the other day (capitals.com) that Perrault had a good game. Then “switching subjects” a sentence later mentioned the team has great depth in Hershey to help out in DC when needed.

I was left with the image of someone off-camera already on the phone making travel arrangements to have him sent back to Hershey at some point in the road trip.

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by Icebat on Oct 26, 2010 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

By "something more troubling" do you mean he and BB are at odds or Ovi can’t remember which bench to skate to?

I mean that he may lack certain traits that you’d want from your leader.

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by J.P. on Oct 25, 2010 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Let’s hope not. Because then the Caps are in trouble.

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by fat_daddyo on Oct 25, 2010 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can be sold that Erskine gets an up arrow solely for attacking Byfuglien, but it still feels a little dirty considering how bad he’s been playing. 4 ES GA in 3 games last week vs the 3 ES GA he had in the 5 games prior. Plus the goal against that he wasn’t on the ice for on Saturday he was in the box for a completely unnecessary boarding penalty. And it’s not like he was a shining star in the previous 2 weeks either. He continues to lead caps blueliners in GAON/60 with 3.61.

by psuscott1 on Oct 25, 2010 11:37 AM EDT reply actions  

I think since the rankings are based on expectations relative to the individual player, and Erkine’s are so low, that if he does one single thing right in a week, he’ll get an up arrow.

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by bigeugene on Oct 25, 2010 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

When Big John skates almost 25 minutes in a game, you have depth problems. But God love him for going after Buf.

by S h a g g y on Oct 25, 2010 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

And this might be one of the rare cases where I think Erskine’s numbers hide a bit more decent play than they reveal – not a HUGE fan of the boarding penalty he took Saturday night but it wasn’t the dumbest penalty someone on this team has taken this year, and he’s been staying more in position when he hits.

He’s been asked to carry a much bigger load than I think any of us are comfortable with, and has actually not done that badly doing it. Do I want him regularly skating 25 minutes a night (or think the team is), or do I think he’s capable of performing this way long-term? Of course not. But given the circumstances, a very good week for #4.

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by Becca H on Oct 25, 2010 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Erskine’s a 6/7 defenseman who’s been forced to become a 3/4 with all these injuries and on Saturday even a 2/3. That’s way beyond his job description. That he looked half-way decent playing far beyond his capabilities gets him an up arrow in my book. You want to hand out a down arrow, give it to McPhee for insisting on only carrying seven defensemen and two of those being Erskine and Sloan.

by b.orr4 on Oct 25, 2010 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Definitely agree with you there. Erskine had no business with those minutes but handled them rather aplomb given his skill set.

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by sydtron on Oct 25, 2010 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m glad to see a little love for John Erskine here. He’s being asked to do things he shouldn’t be asked to do and is doing the best he can.

by Jeff T on Oct 26, 2010 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

With GMGM’s approach to this season, I can say with quite a bit of certainty, that he’s going to go crazy at the deadline. I don’t think any of the trades will touch Carlson, Alzner, Green, Schultz, Poti, or Erskine; but, they will probably ship off some of our offensive players. I.E. – Fehr, Flash, maybe Semin

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by kingzman264 on Oct 25, 2010 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

So no defensemen traded.

As for forwards being traded, Flash is the most logical guy to trade — who’s relatively speaking, a spare part.

Hopefully, Fehr is not traded. Who will be our 1st line right winger if Knuble doesn’t stay or gets worse this year? He’s got youth (relatively speaking) on his side. (And, of course, i don’t want Semin gone either.)

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by CapsFan75 on Oct 25, 2010 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m not that concerned about the team as a whole right now. Don’t forget that the Pens won their Cup after a mediocre season and firing their coach more than halfway through, so I believe the Caps can still win a Cup this year.

I am VERY concerned about nicky and ovie. I know they’ll figure it out eventually, but I have a feeling the days of Ovie running away with the rocket, ross, hart and every other award have come to an end.

by feeya7 on Oct 25, 2010 11:37 AM EDT reply actions  

Given the emergence of Steven Stamkos.

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by CapsFan75 on Oct 25, 2010 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Best moral of this week’s story – no defensemen with down arrows all while top 2 d are both suffering. It could be worse with the d situation!

by marks4java on Oct 25, 2010 12:19 PM EDT reply actions  

I would have given Sloan a down arrow. My expectations for him are already incredibly low but he doesn’t look like he even belongs out there on a lot of shifts.

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by zephyr on Oct 25, 2010 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

My expectations for him are already incredibly low but he doesn’t look like he even belongs out there on a lot of shifts.

That’s because he doesn’t belong out there.

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by Steckel Me Elmo on Oct 25, 2010 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

Anyone see this (non) news item?

October 24, 2010 // 11:54am ET
Semin could become free agent
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With the likes of Joe Thornton and Zdeno Chara signing long-term extensions with their respective clubs, questions of Alexader Semin’s future in Washington are popping up.
Semin, 26, is in the final year of his contract and can become an unrestricted free agent next summer.
 Chosen 13th overall by the Capitals in the 2002 NHL Entry Draft, Semin has tallied more than 70 points in three of his five seasons in Washington and is on pace for a career-year this season.
The Capitals signed Semin to a one-year extension worth $6 million last December and it’s uncertain when the two sides will concentrate on a new deal this season, though informal discussions have already been exchanged.

Semin has indicated that the Capitals presented him with multiple long-term offers prior to signing his deal last season, but his preference was a one-year agreement.

While the San Jose Sharks and Boston Bruins opted to sign their respective superstars early on, it’s believed Semin is willing to test the free agent market next July, though he does enjoy playing in D.C.

In eight games so far this season, Semin has notched five goals and three assists for eight points.

 
 

by S h a g g y on Oct 25, 2010 1:27 PM EDT reply actions  

Semin could become free agent

All they needed to write, really.

"Semin had two goals this year, Perreault comes in and he gets three."

by jordanDC on Oct 25, 2010 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, it is interesting to note that he didn’t want a long-term deal and that informal discussions have already been exchanged. . .

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by kingzman264 on Oct 25, 2010 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

I thought that information about deals discussed, etc., was from last year’s negotiations from the time he signed the 1 year extension for this season.

by sk84fun_dc on Oct 25, 2010 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s what I thought, too. Here’s my guess (although of course none of us can know): Semin asked for a one-year deal because of what the team was offering “long”-term and what their reasons were. In other words, perhaps the team was saying “we can’t give you X dollars over Y years because you’ve been inconsistent, injured, etc. so we’ll offer you less for fewer years.”

By taking a one-year deal he can try and show them he can perform and earn a longer deal here, or at the very least prove to other teams that he’s worth the risk on July 1.

…or, you know, he just wants to get the $ this year and isn’t even thinking about staying with the Caps next summer. In which case he’ll go to the highest bidder. In which case…sayonara, Sash.

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by Becca H on Oct 25, 2010 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

yet from quotes I read over the off season it seemed like he wanted to stay here a while. Maybe it wasn’t the long term part of the deal he didn’t like, maybe it was that GMGM wanted a long term deal at less than Semin (or his agent) wanted.

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by Elliotte on Oct 25, 2010 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Stecks and Chimera

I couldn’t help but wonder if their lack of commitment to defending their goalie against Buff’s hit be evidence of previous statements of Neuvy being unliked in the locker room?

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by CarltonBanks on Oct 25, 2010 3:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Even if you detest “Neuvy”, when someone takes “your goalie” out like that, you punch him in the face. How much you like your teammate is seldom less relevant than when the Enemy runs your G. (I think the ref’s call tacitly confirms the code in this regard.)

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by redlineblue on Oct 25, 2010 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, especially considering who the two players were; one an alternate captain (at least half the time), another a declining 4th liner that should be looking for every opportunity to show he’s worth keeping around.

by brs03 on Oct 25, 2010 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed, even more reason for both of those guys to step up. I just find their lack of action after that obvious aggression towards Neuvy completely perplexing.

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by CarltonBanks on Oct 25, 2010 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Another question might be, how many penalties would have been handed out for a dog pile on Byfuglien? If everyone on the ice jumps him…

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by IRockTheRed on Oct 25, 2010 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have no objection to Erskine jumping in and taking Byfuglien down. Three guys is overkill.

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by IRockTheRed on Oct 25, 2010 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

The first two guys to arrive at the perp failed to engage, so as to avoid piling on? I do not follow. Erskine got there last (no, seriously!) and was the first Cap to act.

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by redlineblue on Oct 25, 2010 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Steckel and Chimera were actually trailing that play by quite a few feet. Carlson turned around and went the other way.

by Karl W on Oct 25, 2010 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

checking the video, it looks like Carlson was checking on Neuvy, then grabbing his stick, and once Erskine got there he joined the group scrum

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by Elliotte on Oct 25, 2010 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Carlson has already shown the willingness to step up for a teammate when he jumped the NJ player who sucker punched MJ.

by b.orr4 on Oct 25, 2010 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Personally I thought the reason Stecks and Chimera hesitated to jump big Buff was the likeliness that they’d get destroyed. Hence leaving it to Ersky. I’d hope, however, that if Erskine wasn’t on the ice they’d accept the probably facial rearrangement to stick up for their goalie. No matter how loathsome he may be.

by BradleyFightingVehicle on Oct 25, 2010 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

On the rare occasion that we’ve seen Stecks fight, I think his decision not to engage Buf was probably a wise one.

by b.orr4 on Oct 25, 2010 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

Totally agree with this. Chimera is a middleweight, as is Steckel – Buff would have wrecked either. I’d rather the one heavyweight on the ice take on one of the biggest guys in the NHL.

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by timmyv38 on Oct 25, 2010 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Erskine has never been a heavy weight…even pre concussions.

by Yoshietree on Oct 25, 2010 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

He did a good job with Buff IMO. Guess he was just the “heaviest” on the ice that night.

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by capsyoungguns on Oct 25, 2010 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

He’s not far from a heavyweight – especially when you look at the guys he is willing to fight. Aside from King, he’s the only Cap who even comes close to that.

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by timmyv38 on Oct 25, 2010 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Erskine is certainly a heavyweight in terms of the quality of his opponents. Lucic, Thorburn, Laraque, Belak, Boulton, Thornton, Rechlicz, Godard….these are the guys he’s fought the last few years. He’s 6’4, well over 200 lbs. By all measures (except quantity of fights), he’s a bona-fide heavyweight.

by Cluster on Oct 25, 2010 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Erskine is a cruiserweight. Very, very close to a heavyweight. Has a pretty mean left hand that certainly lets him fight up a class and hold his own.

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by sydtron on Oct 26, 2010 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

Perhaps, but he picks his spots.

by Karl W on Oct 25, 2010 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

He’s a 20-year old who would be going against a linebacker on skates. I’d say that would be a good time to pick a spot.

by b.orr4 on Oct 25, 2010 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not disagreeing, just noting that we shouldn’t give a hard time to Steckel if we’re not giving one to Carlson.

by Karl W on Oct 25, 2010 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Carlson’s not 6’5". I can’t say I blame Stckel though – he would have been outweighed by 50 pounds.

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by timmyv38 on Oct 25, 2010 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Also, even if they detest Neuvy, they have been acknowledging that he’s playing great and keeping them in games, and his backup is Sabourin….better hope Neuvy stays on the ice. Yet another reason to stand up for Neuvy.

During the game, I was watching Neuvy laying motionless in the goal, so I didn’t really notice what Steckel/Chimera did. I kept my eye on Neuvy until he got up, so I only noticed Erskine fighting.

by vtcapsfan99 on Oct 25, 2010 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Same thing with me. My eyes were on Neuvy sprawled out flat on the ice. Very scary moment though it seemed much longer than that. Next thing I knew Erskine was fighting Buff.

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by capsyoungguns on Oct 25, 2010 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was scared watching Neuvy flat on the ice as well.

I wonder if the whole Neuvy being disliked in the locker room thing is overblown. Maybe Tarik had a problem with him that one day

I also wonder if Neuvy is a shy fellow so he might not have a large number of friends on the team. It probably didn’t help that he was bouncing up and down between Hershey and here last year (and bouncing every which where two years ago). He always seemed to be the “new kid”. Moreover, he’s younger than the vast majority of the team as well. (But now some other kids are coming up.) Varly (due to Ovi) seemed to be more part of the Caps’ in-crowd, so to speak.

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by CapsFan75 on Oct 25, 2010 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t buy that whole detested bit at all. It’s just a bit bad gossiping by a quasi-reporter who had nothing but a bit of tittle-tattle that may or may not have trickled down from Tarik. Given the positive things the guys have said about Neuvy in post-game interviews, both last season and now, I think they like him just fine. Maybe not BBFs with him but I bet they get along just fine. Moreover, given the amount of time he spent in Hershey had he really been poison in the locker room it would have gotten out. We would have heard about it.

I’m thinking he was a bit stunned when he stayed down on the ice—whether he hit his head/shoulder on the bar or from the impact of the net when he was slammed into it by Buff—who knows. Thank goodness he’s okay.

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by capsyoungguns on Oct 25, 2010 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

The impact from Buff would have been enough to stun him, let alone hitting the ice/goal. I’m just glad he bounced up so quickly.

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by timmyv38 on Oct 25, 2010 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good point. Like being hit by Mack Truck Buff.

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by capsyoungguns on Oct 25, 2010 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

265 pounds (or so NHL.com claims) coming at you that fast… can we say “ouch”?

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by timmyv38 on Oct 25, 2010 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

No. I’m almost 100% positive that both Steckel and Chimera looked at Byfuglien and realized he was well out of their weight class. They’re tough, but they’re not stupid.

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by D'ohboy on Oct 25, 2010 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, no reason for them to do anything with Erskine out on the ice.

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by sydtron on Oct 25, 2010 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Right. Because the Caps were already skating with 5 D – might as well drop that to 4.

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by J.P. on Oct 25, 2010 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

And Erskine doesn’t have a history of concussions.

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by Rob Parker on Oct 25, 2010 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ah, missed this before I posted up top. This was my thinking too. I’m willing to give those guys the benefit of the doubt.

by BradleyFightingVehicle on Oct 25, 2010 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Steckel said something to Buff and got a hard shove for his trouble. In a way, Steckel and Chimera did a great job distracting Buff long enough for Erskine to get a nice jump on the big idiot.

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by RedBirdie on Oct 25, 2010 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Steckel standing there with his thumb up his ass didn’t surprise me at all, considering I think he’s one of the softest Caps on the team, despite his size. Chimera really surprised me though. Buff is a mass of humanity, but it not like he’s Boogaard.

by Cluster on Oct 25, 2010 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Honestly, Chimera, Carlson and Steckel all disappointed me. Chimera hasn’t backed down from many fights since he’s been with the Caps. Perhaps he just didn’t see what happened?

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by D'ohboy on Oct 25, 2010 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m pretty sure Chimera did see what happened – he came in right behind Steckel. As far as I can tell, Carlson was on Buff’s back when he hit Neuvirth, Erskine was to the other side of the goal, and both Chimera and Steckel were coming into the zone.

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by timmyv38 on Oct 25, 2010 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Based on Chimera’s willingness so far with this team, I’d buy that he was caught in a moment of confusion about what was going on. Steckel, however, skated right up to Buff and just froze. Can’t remember what Carlson was doing…

by Cluster on Oct 25, 2010 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Carlson peeled away immediately. Steckel got in Buff’s face, and got pushed away. Chimera was right behind Steckel when that happened. I don’t know who else was out there – they didn’t get into the picture until the scrum.

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by timmyv38 on Oct 25, 2010 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ah… Beagle. He came in and kept one of the Trhrashers off to the side away from the scrum.

Never underrate the power of the hissy-cow.

by timmyv38 on Oct 26, 2010 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

I thought it was interesting that no one skated over to see how Neuvy was even doing.

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by bigeugene on Oct 26, 2010 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

He’s 2 inches shorter than Boogaard and the same weight. Steckel and Chimera were each extremely outmatched. I still wish they would have done something, but I can’t blame them for not going after Buff – especially when one of the biggest Caps, who is an experienced fighter, was on the ice.

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by timmyv38 on Oct 25, 2010 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Boogaard’s fists, not his size, was my point. Buff shouldn’t be feared because of a being a fighter. He doesn’t that often, so his size shouldn’t be a non-starter for a Cap to get in his face

by Cluster on Oct 25, 2010 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Looking at Buff’s fights, I’m surprised that he hasn’t fought many heavyweights in the NHL. The type of guys he has fought for the most part seem to be middleweights – guys around the size of Chimera or Brads. And only 7 NHL fights. I still see his size as being intimidating to Chimera or Steckel, but I would have to agree that his fighting ability shouldn’t be.

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by timmyv38 on Oct 25, 2010 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe I was attending another game, but from Section 423 I saw Steckel skate up to Bufyglien to have a word with him but got pushed away by Buff. Chimera got pretty much the same treatment and then Erskine took over.
That being said, either one could have made a stronger attempt at objecting to the hit but I’m sure they both knew that Erskine was only a few feet behind them.

At least Quinton Laing dropped the mitts and unleashed a vicious assault on Cam Janssens’s fists with his face when Janssens ran Matt Bradley in St. Louis last year…

by Jeff T on Oct 26, 2010 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

I saw that happen to Steckel on the video, but not Chimera. Camera could have just missed it though. Neither did anything other than skate up and say something. I’m glad Steckel at least didn’t drop the gloves – he would have been pummelled, and we really don’t need another injury right now.

Never underrate the power of the hissy-cow.

by timmyv38 on Oct 27, 2010 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

BB: Down Arrow

He’s funny. He’s down to Earth. He’s a player’s coach and the team clearly responded to him for 2 seasons.

His team’s haven’t put together back-to-back 60 minutes of effort… ever? He’s not in charge of his team. His team isn’t responding to him.

by CarlosLA on Oct 25, 2010 3:34 PM EDT reply actions  

So the 14 game win streak was in spite of him?

I’m not saying he’s perfect, and I think we have clearly identified he doesn’t hold certain players’ feet to the fire, the shift length problems, etc. But to say his team doesn’t respond to him and he’s not in charge is a stretch, I think.

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by Alz Well That Ends Well on Oct 25, 2010 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Please note verb tenses.

by CarlosLA on Oct 25, 2010 4:25 PM EDT reply actions  

Oops, reply fail. That was meant in response to AWTEW

by CarlosLA on Oct 25, 2010 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

the team clearly responded to him for 2 seasons
His team’s haven’t put together back-to-back 60 minutes of effort…ever? He’s not in charge of his team. His team isn’t responding to him.

Despite your verb tense changes, your statements are still in conflict. You can’t go from never having a 60 minute effort (which BTW I disagree with) to he is no longer in charge of this team, if that’s what you meant by your tense changes.

Moreover, I think it’s too early to conclude that the team has suddenly stopped responding to BB when they have done so for the past two seasons, and especially during that streak. I’m pretty much in agreement with AWTEW.

BB is still in charge. I’ve seen no evidence that the players no longer listen or respect him. I do think though that this is a hot seat season for BB as coach.

Alright, confess-how many goals are you going to make this year?

"I'm not going to tell!"

Well can you at least guarantee fifty?

"No way. I have a different objective. To win."

by capsyoungguns on Oct 25, 2010 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Imagine if the Caps were in NJ shoes today. I can’t even imagine the blood-letting that would be going on around here.

by b.orr4 on Oct 25, 2010 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

HA! imagine the blood-letting on Caps Insider!

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by RedBirdie on Oct 25, 2010 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Here’s a crazy post I read on CI today. The poster said they’ve moved on from the Caps and will root for a team with a history of championships; i.e. Montreal.

Rocking the Red since 1975

by CapsFan75 on Oct 25, 2010 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Whoa, I’m not saying fire BB. I’m saying down arrow for the week, and if anyone asked, I’d say for the season. The team looked like crap against the B’s, twice. They looked terrible for the final 17 minutes of the 1st period on Saturday and then the damn game went to OT b/c BB had a stupid lineup on the ice after ATL pulled their goalie.

In fairness, the PK is massively, massively improved from last year, so kudos there.

by CarlosLA on Oct 25, 2010 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

You can’t use it as an excuse, but I would think the fact that they were playing Atlanta with five defensemen, two of which are rookies and the other two are marginal 6/7 defenders, probably had something to do with the way they started that game.

by b.orr4 on Oct 25, 2010 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

and one of those rookies was clearly hindered by an injury.

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by RedBirdie on Oct 25, 2010 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

That too. How the hell did they win that game?

by b.orr4 on Oct 25, 2010 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is how.

If wishes were horses, we'd all be eating steak.

by Hang a Laingtern on Your Problems on Oct 25, 2010 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions   3 recs

Gotta love a guy who’s comfortable in bright blue crocs and faded purple shorts. I always love this pic.

Alright, confess-how many goals are you going to make this year?

"I'm not going to tell!"

Well can you at least guarantee fifty?

"No way. I have a different objective. To win."

by capsyoungguns on Oct 25, 2010 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wonder when that picture was taken.

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by CapsFan75 on Oct 25, 2010 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Problem is the Caps are going nowhere this season, that is pretty evident. Almost every team in the East is better and we are the same or worse.

So basically it is another wasted season of Ovie/Semin/Backs/Laich in their primes.

by mig991 on Oct 26, 2010 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Except the Caps are 1 point out of 1st in the East – even with all the injuries they’ve had. If that’s “going nowhere”, nowhere looks good.

Never underrate the power of the hissy-cow.

by timmyv38 on Oct 26, 2010 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

i adore semin’s crocs

shake it up

by hockey horror picture show on Oct 25, 2010 6:43 PM EDT reply actions  

Must have been pretty hard for JP to give Semin a +. Why is everyone such a Semin hater? All he wants to do is keep a low profile and keep to himself

by philarmy on Oct 25, 2010 9:00 PM EDT reply actions  

Define “everyone.” Define “hater.”

I think you’ll find that it renders your statement inaccurate.

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by Hang a Laingtern on Your Problems on Oct 25, 2010 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Indeed! I love Semin, from the top of his little head down to the tips of his toes and everything in between.

When Semin is on fire he is a beauty to watch. And I haven’t read anything in these post-game threads but accolades for how brilliantly he managed to move the puck and ensure that it got into the net that night. Only Semin can contort his body and catch, manipulate, and lift the puck into the net the way he does. He’s simply enthralling. His genius just has a temperamental quality to it.

Alright, confess-how many goals are you going to make this year?

"I'm not going to tell!"

Well can you at least guarantee fifty?

"No way. I have a different objective. To win."

by capsyoungguns on Oct 25, 2010 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

The vitriol on Semin has not been bad on here lately at all. But there has been a lot of criticism of Semin over the years.

Around this time last year, there were many people ready to ride him out of town on a rail after a couple of bad games.

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by CapsFan75 on Oct 25, 2010 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

The hate is more from the media rather than the fans, mainly due to the fact that he doesn’t really talk to them. He’s been up and down throughout his time in Washington, but he’s always been my 2nd favorite player on the team. If you have ever played hockey in your life, you appreciate and understand the world-class abilities he has, regardless of inconsistencies. People who have never played hockey, but only watch it, don’t understand the talent he has.

But the hate really is always there, and its perpetuated by the media because they get pissy when he skips morning skates and then doesn’t talk to them (SVRLUGA!)

There might not be that many haters right now, but last Spring, the whole town was out to get him. Sure he didn’t score, but he led the team in shots. Sometimes the puck just doesn’t go in.

Love don’t hate….

by philarmy on Oct 25, 2010 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

If you have ever played hockey in your life, you appreciate and understand the world-class abilities he has, regardless of inconsistencies.

Roger on the first two counts, but the first two counts do not necessarily lead to the third. Just because I appreciate the guy’s skill doesn’t mean I excuse the inconsistency. If anything, it makes the inconsistency more infuriating. In fact, I’d say that 99.9% of the frustration with Semin around these parts stems from the fact that he clearly seems to “turn it on,” at times (like Saturday night), while at other times, he seems completely disinterested. When you’ve got that kind of talent and $6m/year coming your way, that kind of attitude (whether real or perceived) is going to rub some people the wrong way.

'Cause the end of what it was is what it is right now...

by D'ohboy on Oct 25, 2010 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

I also don’t think you need to have played hockey to appreciate his talent. That’s a pretty arrogant position and it leads to some absurd conclusions if you take it far enough. The bottom line is that appreciation for his skills is unrelated to the frustration with his inconsistencies.

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by Rob Parker on Oct 25, 2010 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions   3 recs

I’ll tell you from first-hand experience that you don’t have to have played hockey to appreciate Good Sasha.

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by Knee high to a duck on Oct 26, 2010 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

In right before me. Couldn’t agree more.

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by SmallZ827 on Oct 26, 2010 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

You need to be more specific then in your post. You went from JP and an up arrow to everyone is a hater—logic fail to me.

The media folks like their narratives, and certain members of the media can be lazy and just repeat certain memes, which begs the question: “did they really watch the game?” But not all members of the media hate Semin, just as not all Caps’ fans hate him. It’s always dangerous to make accusations with vague, loosely defined targets such as “everyone” or the “media.” You get no argument from me that some members of the media can be like babies and take it out on players with unwarranted criticism (or poor Theo wouldn’t have had the Wild’s reporter tweeting in anger because he didn’t want to talk to the guy before the game).

But as much as I love Semin and his enigmatic, temperamental but brilliant style, he’s fair game for criticism. He can be uneven and frustrating then suddenly he’s breathtaking. Hope this Semin is here for a bit. Maybe he can give Ovi and Nicky a bit of space so they can get back on their game.

Alright, confess-how many goals are you going to make this year?

"I'm not going to tell!"

Well can you at least guarantee fifty?

"No way. I have a different objective. To win."

by capsyoungguns on Oct 25, 2010 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Logic fail? This is an online chat, not a doctorate thesis; I reserve the right to be vague and say “everyone” because during the playoffs last year it sure as hell seemed that “everyone” was hating on Semin.

Also, I mean that if you are a hockey player or used to play, you just have a further appreciation of what Semin brings to the table compared to just a fan’s knowledge of the game of hockey.

by philarmy on Oct 25, 2010 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh boy…..

you can reserve the right to be vague and make unsubstantiated claims, but the rest of us reserve the right to call you out on it.

And you know what, the majority of us were “hating” on Semin in the playoffs. We were also “hating” on Mike Green. Neither performed. Not “didn’t perform up to expectations.” Didn’t perform at all. They both make big bucks to be highly skilled elite players and are expected to deliver.

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by RedBirdie on Oct 26, 2010 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

Admiral Ackbar Says...
This is an online chat, not a doctorate thesis; I reserve the right to be vague and say "everyone" because during the playoffs last year it sure as hell seemed that "everyone" was hating on Semin.

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by bigeugene on Oct 26, 2010 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Whatever that is supposed to mean

by philarmy on Oct 26, 2010 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

While a large percentage were “hating” on him, a good portion of that group was also noting that it wasn’t for lack of effort…there was just varying opinions on how effective that effort was and whether it was the right kind of effort.

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by Davethecapsfan on Oct 26, 2010 1:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t believe my asking for some logic in your argument falls in the category of a dissertation. I’m trying to teach my fifth grader to use logic when he’s trying to argue with me. It’s called a debate or lively discussion or friendly chat. Roll with it. Not everyone is going to agree with you. That’s what makes it fun. And we are not that far apart in our positions about Semin. So chill. Just be careful when using vague terms because accusing everyone guarantees you will get a response from someone

Alright, confess-how many goals are you going to make this year?

"I'm not going to tell!"

Well can you at least guarantee fifty?

"No way. I have a different objective. To win."

by capsyoungguns on Oct 26, 2010 7:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

I mean that if you are a hockey player or used to play, you just have a further appreciation of what Semin brings to the table compared to just a fan’s knowledge of the game of hockey.

I agree that having not played I may not completely understand or appreciate deeply enough the technical difficulties of what Semin can do with the puck, but I think I’m pretty darn good (especially in these days of video replays). I also have never painted but in my capacity as an art historian it was my job to evaluate and judge the quality of a work of art.

Alright, confess-how many goals are you going to make this year?

"I'm not going to tell!"

Well can you at least guarantee fifty?

"No way. I have a different objective. To win."

by capsyoungguns on Oct 26, 2010 7:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

So you obviously missed the spirited debates in which several people cited Semin’s shot totals, etc. to defend the quality of his play in the post-season.

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by Rob Parker on Oct 26, 2010 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

Also, I have never played hockey but I can and do appreciate the world-class abilities Semin has.

Alright, confess-how many goals are you going to make this year?

"I'm not going to tell!"

Well can you at least guarantee fifty?

"No way. I have a different objective. To win."

by capsyoungguns on Oct 25, 2010 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Seeing how Semin had “a 10-shot effort on Tuesday and a hat trick on Saturday”, it really wasn’t that hard. Very few here hate Semin, it’s frustration (and rightly so) at how he takes dumb penalties and seems not to always put out a full effort. If he was more consistent in playing up to his enormous potential, there would be much less of that.

Never underrate the power of the hissy-cow.

by timmyv38 on Oct 25, 2010 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

It wasn’t he had a good week relative to my expectations, so it was actually pretty easy.

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