Wednesday Caps Clips: Isles @ Caps Game Day
by J.P. on Oct 13, 2010 6:50 AM EDT
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Your savory breakfast links:
- Previews of tonight's game against the James Wisniewski-less Islanders from Vogs, NHL.com, Peerless, LIR, KOL and RLS, and be sure to check out our SB Nation partner Lighthouse Hockey for coverage from the other side of tonight's match up.
- Notes from yesterday's practice - who was on the ice (or, more notably, who wasn't), who was centering the top line, and more. [CI, CI, DCEx, DCEx]
- The Caps are a little dinged, but the can still send out a full lineup (and then some). That's how it's done in the Cap Era, Lou. [Dump 'n Chase]
- Brooks Laich and Alex Semin have great chemistry. Tomas Fleischmann? He's, um, on that line too. [Masisak]
- Eric Fehr looks to take the proverbial "next step." [Carrera]
- Week One scoring chances. Spoiler alert: Marcus Johansson was struggling a bit before his injury. [RMNB]
- In case you haven't noticed, the Caps' power play is struggling (and has been since, oh, March). [CI]
- On the Caps' new personality. [SB Nation DC]
- "The Evolution of Mike Green." Money. [Caps365 (video)]
- John Carlson on the ol' radio. [LaVar and Dukes]
- Nice new feature (and banner) over at Jumping the Glass: Three for Three. [JtG]
- Smokey, this is not 'Nam. This is bowling. There are rules. And Alex Ovechkin's head in a bowling ball bag. [D.C. Sports Bog, Puck Daddy]
- All of AO's overtime goals in one post. Well isn't that convenient. [SB Nation DC]
- The good and the bad, through three. [Hockey Independent]
- Trying to separate legitimate concerns with, well, "other." [RtR]
- Balancing rock star celebrity with the captaincy. [KOL]
- A Redskin gets his kid a Jeff Schultz jersey. No word on whether Sarge got a "Crter" jersey in return. [D.C. Sports Bog]
- Some lucky fans got to hang with The Great Eight. [Upper Deck Blog]
- Wanna make some money? Get a job. Or... [FanPost]
- Tips for Karl Alzner as he heads to IKEA. [JtG]
- Ovi makes another Top Ten of All-Time list. [Greatest Hockey Legends]
- Bear Tracks! [LDN]
- Hershey captain Andrew Joudrey keeps a proper perspective. [LDN]
- On Brian Fahey and his second tour of duty with the Bears. [Patriot-News]
- Jose Theodore is adjusting to his new 'mates. [StarTribune]
- The Oilers cut Alexandre Giroux and he's not happy about it. My advice? Be better at hockey. [OilFieldHockey]
- Finally, happy 45th birthday to Paul Cavallini.
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A Redskin gets his kid a Jeff Schultz jersey. No word on whether Sarge got a “Crter” jersey in return.
A rare minus night for Sarge on that one.
A very misguided piece on Huffington Post recently called 30 Rock the most racist show on television thanks to Tracy Morgan’s wild, manic, madcap performance. Tonight illustrated why whoever wrote that piece is full of shit and should be punched in the face until he has a more nuanced grasp on comedy.
For someone earning $5.75 million, you would think Crter could afford to deal with more reputable vendors.
He's a better skater than Nick, but he's big in the back[side]...BB
by Backeez Got Back on Oct 13, 2010 7:35 AM EDT up reply actions
Hey, you don’t get rich by giving money away!
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It’s not how much you earn, it’s how much you save.
If you've read this far...seek help.
by ThePeerless on Oct 13, 2010 8:58 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
"I got screwed. Last summer, the Oilers had told me that I would fight for one of three available positions on offense. I did not, however, they were promised jobs in Taylor Hall, Jordan Eberle and Magnus Paajarvi.
OK, kids, let’s do the old IQ test thing. Which of these items does not belong in this group (select one)?
a. Taylor Hall
b. Jordan Eberle
c. Magnus Paajarvi
d. Alexandre Giroux
If you've read this far...seek help.
by ThePeerless on Oct 13, 2010 7:35 AM EDT reply actions 4 recs
c) “The chicken swede” – Don Cherry
A clear conscience is usually the sign of a bad memory
by Rather Bengt on Oct 13, 2010 7:46 AM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
Your gross injury of the day featuring today's birthday boy Paul Cavalini
Cavallini missed 13 games during the 1990–91 season with a bizarre left index finger injury, in which he lost the tip of the finger. He suffered the injury while blocking a Doug Wilson slapshot during St. Louis’ December 22, 1990, game vs. Chicago. The force of Wilson’s shot literally severed the tip of Cavallini’s finger. Cavallini found the tip of the finger inside his glove. Doctors hoped they could re-attach the tip in surgery, but their efforts failed. The piece of the finger was removed and the exposed bone covered with grafted skin. Cavallini did not return to action until St. Louis’ January 25, 1991, game at Detroit. He scored a goal in that game.
—From wikipedia
A clear conscience is usually the sign of a bad memory
by Rather Bengt on Oct 13, 2010 7:53 AM EDT reply actions 2 recs
That guy from Virginia Tech ripped him off (hoo hoo)
Turns out at some point during the first half, Nosal lost a half inch of his left pinky finger. According to head athletic trainer Mike Goforth, “the tip of his finger was exposed, leaving just the nail and bone there.”
Goforth said the finger had gotten lodged between two helmets during the game and somehow the impact tore off a “fat and fleshy” portion of the pinky finger. Nosal, a junior, actually played at least one more snap before noticing his bloodied glove and came to the sideline to consult with Goforth and Dr. Marc Siegel.
For a time, nobody could seem to locate the missing chunk. Goforth had some of his staff searching the field for it before they finally found it inside Nosal’s glove. Goforth said Dr. Siegel soon determined the lost tissue could be re-attached and Nosal went to the locker room ahead of all his teammates just before halftime. Once inside, Dr. Siegel presented Nosal with two options: ice the chunk and keep playing or fix it right away.
Nosal wanted to keep playing so Goforth “took the finger, put it on ice and saved it for when it was ready.” He then covered up the rest of Nosal’s left hand with gauze and dressing and gave him some pain medicine. The 6-foot-6, 293-pound lineman didn’t come out of the game until the fourth quarter when the score was 31-7 in Virginia Tech’s favor.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Oct 13, 2010 8:00 AM EDT up reply actions
yeah, but the Hokie kept playing, he just took some pain killers and some gauze and when back in there.
LET'S GO CAPS!!!
Ronnie Lott had his mashed pinky amputated rather than miss playing time.
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Ron and Fez 11 to 3
by YvonLabresMoustache on Oct 13, 2010 8:40 AM EDT up reply actions
Dominick over at Lighthouse Hockey runs a hell of a blog. I strongly encourage folks to check it out.
"Essentially, all models are wrong, but some are useful" George E.P. Box
by Knee high to a duck on Oct 13, 2010 7:55 AM EDT via mobile reply actions 8 recs
Particularly with lines like this:
Worse, the Islanders’ hot-thus-far powerplay has lost point cannon James Wisniewski for two games for being an exceptionally accurate pantomime.
Alright, confess-how many goals are you going to make this year?
"I'm not going to tell!"
Well can you at least guarantee fifty?
"No way. I have a different objective. To win."
by capsyoungguns on Oct 13, 2010 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Greened.
The Artist Formerly Known as CP2Devil.
Links guy at Five For Howling.
by Carl Putnam on Oct 13, 2010 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions
http://www.lighthousehockey.com/ for the lazy types
Human existence being an hallucination containing in itself the secondary hallucinations of day and night (the latter an insanitary condition of the atmosphere due to accretions of black air) it ill becomes any man of sense to be concerned at the illusory approach of the supreme hallucination known as death.
Looks like we’ve got our first viewing party of the season in the works. Details forthcoming, but they generally look like this:
When: Thursday, October 21, 2010 (Caps @ Bruins)
Where: Hard Times Cafe, Bethesda
Beer: Free
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by J.P. on Oct 13, 2010 8:06 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
So I’m told. Granted, it won’t be high-end craft brew (I don’t think), but the price point will be good.
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It’s not like domestic macro-brew is a Giffen good.
'Cause the end of what it was is what it is right now...
by D'ohboy on Oct 13, 2010 8:24 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Any chance we can move it to Restaurant 3? The 21st will be the last day of Bacon Week.
A very misguided piece on Huffington Post recently called 30 Rock the most racist show on television thanks to Tracy Morgan’s wild, manic, madcap performance. Tonight illustrated why whoever wrote that piece is full of shit and should be punched in the face until he has a more nuanced grasp on comedy.
by Bald Pollack on Oct 13, 2010 8:28 AM EDT up reply actions
Request denied… due to their misspelling of “Lagunitas.”
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You had me at “Beer: Free”.
Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...
by dcsportsfan1 on Oct 13, 2010 8:29 AM EDT up reply actions
Free beer and in Maryland? Fantastic.
"Do not be afraid to ask for credit, for our way of refusing is very polite."
by Laich It Or Lump It on Oct 13, 2010 8:38 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
We’ll see. I’m doing a hockey commercial shoot with a 4 AM call that morning. I might or might not get a nap depending on when the shoot lets out.
Fantasy Teams: Baby Got Backstrom (Ladies of Twitter) and All's Fehr in the Crease (Six Beers Too Many)
Hanlon's Razor: Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
Interesting…
"Do you see my fist? It was fists like these that built quaint Canadian cities out of the harsh Canadian wilderness, etc. etc."
Not in Seattle anymore.
by SeattleCapsFan on Oct 13, 2010 9:30 AM EDT up reply actions
FYI on STH Party
There’s a rumor running around on Twitter that it’s been moved to Monday because of the weather forecast. The Caps don’t have anything up on it – looking for confirmation.
Fantasy Teams: Baby Got Backstrom (Ladies of Twitter) and All's Fehr in the Crease (Six Beers Too Many)
Hanlon's Razor: Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
Damnit. This was going to be the first year I could actually get out of work early enough to attend :(.
There’s no confirmation yet and it came from Twitter, not a reliable source. If it has been moved, it will be announced at the game tonight.
Fantasy Teams: Baby Got Backstrom (Ladies of Twitter) and All's Fehr in the Crease (Six Beers Too Many)
Hanlon's Razor: Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
The STH party has not been moved due to weather forecasting. I’ve been told by my caps rep Justin Fenlon that they won’t reschedule unless the weather is “definitive.” When I asked if definitive meant like, LA story where Steve Martin starts tossing velcro suns at the map or Zeus hurlling lightning bolts at coasters and laughing thunderously, he said “When I know, you’ll know.”
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Ahem. Definitively definitive Postponement
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Yup, I just got that too and was going to post. Actually, that makes my life a whole bucketload easier, because now I don’t need to haul my butt out of bed at 5 AM to work out.
Fantasy Teams: Baby Got Backstrom (Ladies of Twitter) and All's Fehr in the Crease (Six Beers Too Many)
Hanlon's Razor: Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
bummer, I gave my dad tonight’s game tickets because I thought hockey-teaching-hockey-ticket party would be a little much.
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oh, this is interesting:
The Capitals would like to apologize in advance as Alex Ovechkin and Semyon Varlamov will not be in attendance on this date due to a previously scheduled commitment. Both players will be at the ESPN headquarters in Bristol, Conn., shooting a TV commercial for ESPN.
ESPN is filming a commerical with hockey players?
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Where is Ovi’s disembodied head going to be for this commercial? Hopefully it doesn’t include Chris Berman.
Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...
by dcsportsfan1 on Oct 13, 2010 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions
Perhaps it is one of those SportsCenter commercials where athletes are wandering the halls of ESPN. That or an early ad for 24/7.
Glad to see they’ve pulled in Varly – he’s very charismatic.
by Ray of Sunshine on Oct 13, 2010 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions
No. HBO is owned by Time Warner. ESPN is owned by the Mouse.
The Artist Formerly Known as CP2Devil.
Links guy at Five For Howling.
by Carl Putnam on Oct 13, 2010 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions
oops! Momentarily overwrote HBO with ESPN in my mind. Now that would be quite the empire – HBO/ESPN together.
by Ray of Sunshine on Oct 13, 2010 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions
It’s an ad for ESPN12 – The двенадцать
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Oct 13, 2010 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
From Ted’s blog:
One unfortunate affect of the move is that Alex Ovechkin and Semyon Varlamov will not be able to attend, as they will be in Bristol, Conn., filming a This is SportsCenter commercial. You’ve probably seen these ads – they’re very well done. We’ve been working with ESPN for a long time to get Alex in one of these spots, and it’s important that we keep this commitment. We hope you understand.
And while I can’t give away the premise of the commercial, you won’t be disappointed – it will be great for Alex, Semyon and our team.
I’ve been arguing for AO to be in one of these for a long time. Can’t wait.
Lockout talk makes me want to go out and choke an old lady - Elliotte Friedman
I’m psyched to see it, that’s for sure.
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I might actually watch ESPN to see this. or just wait for Steinberg to post it.
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Or maybe it’s the other Sasha:
@Buccigross: hey capital fans…semin and varlamov coming to ESPN to film one of those THIS IS SPORTSCENTER spots
LET'S GO CAPS!!!
ummm…if that’s the case, then good luck to ESPN making the commercial. i’ll just guess bucci has it mixed up.
by Natty Bumppo on Oct 13, 2010 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions
First ESPN commercial equally accessible to deaf/mute and the hearing audience.
"Inglewood Jack! Inglewood Jack!" - Coach Jules
by Alz Well That Ends Well on Oct 13, 2010 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions
You sure that’s a legit Buccigross quote? I don’t see any awkward, forced references to indie rock bands.
by David Getz on Oct 13, 2010 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
You’re quietly killing it today my friend.
A very misguided piece on Huffington Post recently called 30 Rock the most racist show on television thanks to Tracy Morgan’s wild, manic, madcap performance. Tonight illustrated why whoever wrote that piece is full of shit and should be punched in the face until he has a more nuanced grasp on comedy.
by Bald Pollack on Oct 13, 2010 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions
I could be in favor of that. But I’m buying wishful thinking until anything official. Like e-mail from the office.
"It's always good to have vikings."
Exactly. If it’s true, they’ll announce at the game and send email to the STH’s. I’ll wait for the email before making any assumptions.
Fantasy Teams: Baby Got Backstrom (Ladies of Twitter) and All's Fehr in the Crease (Six Beers Too Many)
Hanlon's Razor: Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
I’m just feeling a little stressed because I thought I’d be done with my October 15th stuff by yesterday, and then stuff started showing up that I was sort of not expecting, including one guy who’s dropping off his stuff this morning. Gah! I’d be fine except for the meetings today and tomorrow that are already scheduled.
/back to crunching
"It's always good to have vikings."
Wow….saw a Sarge look-a-like on the Metro this morning. Required three glances to determine it wasn’t actually him.
Oh and peace out, Giroux. I hear the Devils need some help. Would he fit under their cap?
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
Does he make -$3.5m? No? Then no.
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Alexandre Giroux could market himself as the celery of the NHL!
by DrinkingPartner on Oct 13, 2010 8:47 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Are you one hundred percent game ready now?
Yes, one hundred percent.
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by J.P. on Oct 13, 2010 8:47 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Remind me to ask that same question after he plays a few periods.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Oct 13, 2010 8:49 AM EDT up reply actions
Hey, he has a sense of humor:
Was it the same groin muscle you hurt before?
I don’t know. It’s not like I know every muscle in my groin by name or anything.
"It's always good to have vikings."
by gfcaps fan on Oct 13, 2010 8:52 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Speaking for myself, I’m amazed he has any groin left what with him reinjuring it all the frigging time.
A very misguided piece on Huffington Post recently called 30 Rock the most racist show on television thanks to Tracy Morgan’s wild, manic, madcap performance. Tonight illustrated why whoever wrote that piece is full of shit and should be punched in the face until he has a more nuanced grasp on comedy.
by Bald Pollack on Oct 13, 2010 8:58 AM EDT up reply actions
At least he isn’t Clinton Portis.
A clear conscience is usually the sign of a bad memory
by Rather Bengt on Oct 13, 2010 9:03 AM EDT up reply actions
RB speaks the truth. Clinton Portis takes one hand-off and gets hurts his groin.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Oct 13, 2010 9:07 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Clinton Portis will miss 4-6 weeks with a “third degree separation” of his groin.
A clear conscience is usually the sign of a bad memory
by Rather Bengt on Oct 13, 2010 9:08 AM EDT up reply actions
To further elaborate, “third degree separation” means “muscle torn from the bone.” Oof.
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That’s what hockey players call a “tweak”.
You had me at no problem.
by Ninjak on Oct 13, 2010 9:54 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Or what Alexander Semin calls a “dangle”.
I poured spot remover on my dog. Now he's gone.
by Rather Bengt on Oct 13, 2010 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Apparently 9am is too early to speak proper English. Meant he “hurts his groin” not “gets hurts his groin.”
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Oct 13, 2010 9:10 AM EDT up reply actions
I like how inadvertently perverted this comment is.
'Cause the end of what it was is what it is right now...
Ha….didn’t even notice that!
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Oct 13, 2010 9:25 AM EDT up reply actions
I’m not angry, but can’t most people tell you when they’ve reaggrevated the same muscle? Is the pain coming from the same spot as before? I don’t know the names of the muscles in my back but I know where it got hurt and I know when that same spot is giving me trouble again. I thought professional athletes were all well known to be highly tuned to their bodies.
Lockout talk makes me want to go out and choke an old lady - Elliotte Friedman
Well, in my experience as a dancer, the same thing goes wrong in the same place with my groin. Compared to other injuries I’ve had, it isn’t as complex to figure out what is hurting in that area (protecting, strengthening, and preventing repeated injuries there isn’t so easy for me). Other areas can be more baffling (the back) and what hurts might not be where the injury, misalignment, overuse is happening.
It took a teacher who was very knowledgeable about anatomy/physiology and how we use and misuse our bodies (especially muscle groups) when creating movement to give me a better understanding of how my body worked and what I was doing right and wrong. There aren’t enough of those people in the sports/dance world.
Working with the trainers over the summer is a good start, but it sounds like Varly needs more information. Hopefully, someone will explain his biomechanics to him while there is still a window to time to correct things.
(Yes, I know about the avatar hounding - just pretend mine is invisible.)
I can accept that Varly doesn’t know why he’s hurting, but shouldn’t he be able to tell if the pain is coming from the same place?
Lockout talk makes me want to go out and choke an old lady - Elliotte Friedman
There are a TON of little muscles down in there though. I’m not going to criticize if he doesn’t know his adductor longus from his gracilis.
'Cause the end of what it was is what it is right now...
Right, and I said the same thing. But the exact spot shouldn’t be new to him. Either it’s “I’ve felt this before…” or “Wow, I’ve never felt this pain here.” It’s not about knowing which muscle it is. I know exactly where my back got hurt last year and when I feel that same spot tighten up I get nervous and take it easy. There are other muscles in my back that tighten up, but haven’t caused the same kind of problem. That one muscle though… as soon as I feel it I immediately know what is going on.
Lockout talk makes me want to go out and choke an old lady - Elliotte Friedman
Probably more of a case of “I’m not going to discuss in-depth specifics of my injuries with the media. I’m keeping a positive outlook, la la la, I can’t hear you” than a case of “I dunno, it hurts somewhere down there, I wasn’t really listening to the doctors and I don’t know my body at all.”
You had me at no problem.
For the groin, I would say ‘yes’ unless he’s feeling something similar, but not quite the same. ;) Also, he might not know how to analyze his body (although I hope he does by this point in his development). More likely this could be a case of what he says has more to do with limited communication ability.
(Yes, I know about the avatar hounding - just pretend mine is invisible.)
He was talking in Russian I assume to Slava Malamud, so language was probably not an issue, although it could of been an issue in communicating with the trainer about the muscles involved. I actually wouldn’t take Varly’s comment too seriously. He probably doesn’t want to discuss it in too much detail, so that was probably a throwaway comment.
It took a teacher who was very knowledgeable about anatomy/physiology and how we use and misuse our bodies (especially muscle groups) when creating movement to give me a better understanding of how my body worked and what I was doing right and wrong. There aren’t enough of those people in the sports/dance world.
Cannot agree with this enough! If you don’t know what you’re doing wrong, you can’t correct it.
what sort of dance did you do? I took ballet for 15 years to supplement gymnastics.
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The only muscle in his groin he knows by name is “L’il Varly.”
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by J.P. on Oct 13, 2010 9:16 AM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
Photos, or it never happened.
A clear conscience is usually the sign of a bad memory
by Rather Bengt on Oct 13, 2010 9:33 AM EDT up reply actions
boutros is really disappointed by this revelation.
"Do you see my fist? It was fists like these that built quaint Canadian cities out of the harsh Canadian wilderness, etc. etc."
Not in Seattle anymore.
by SeattleCapsFan on Oct 13, 2010 9:33 AM EDT up reply actions
Does Wisniewski have a gesture for such a thing?
If you've read this far...seek help.
by ThePeerless on Oct 13, 2010 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions
If so I’d love to see it.
"Do you see my fist? It was fists like these that built quaint Canadian cities out of the harsh Canadian wilderness, etc. etc."
Not in Seattle anymore.
by SeattleCapsFan on Oct 13, 2010 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions
On fire this morning…
'Cause the end of what it was is what it is right now...
by D'ohboy on Oct 13, 2010 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Damnit! Wow, it’s not even on purpose…
"Do you see my fist? It was fists like these that built quaint Canadian cities out of the harsh Canadian wilderness, etc. etc."
Not in Seattle anymore.
by SeattleCapsFan on Oct 13, 2010 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions
I’m waiting for Malamud and Varlamov (Russian for Laurel and Hardy, don’t you know) to go out on tour:
So, Varly, how do you feel about your groin?
With my hands!
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by J.P. on Oct 13, 2010 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
000
Only if one of them wears this sweater
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Oct 13, 2010 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Geez, Fehrsie
From Steinz, on Fehr’s offseason bulking up:
What was he eating?
“A lot of protein shakes,” he said. “Any time I was supposed to be eating but I wasn’t hungry, iId just drink a protein shake, so that helped me.”
He said he downed a minimum of two, and sometimes three protein shakes virtually evey day during the offseason. So I asked him how many calories he was taking in a day, and he said it was well over 6,000.
“Michael Phelps!” someone chirped from a nearby stall. In fact, Phelps’s famous diet was something like 12,000 calories a day, so it wasn’t quite that, but 6,000 sounds like a lot, anyhow.
“I got my resting calorie intake thing done, and it was really high,” Fehr explained. “So I had to get above that to try to put on weight. So I did.”
John Carlson - Glory follows him.
Six Beers Too Many Fantasy Team - BizNasty's Hobo Rodeo
Been there done that, a little bit. That is a mad pain in the butt.
Fantasy Teams: Baby Got Backstrom (Ladies of Twitter) and All's Fehr in the Crease (Six Beers Too Many)
Hanlon's Razor: Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
No kidding… My resting metabolism must be like his, because I have to eat a TON of chicken and protein powder to gain weight. When I let myself go, I get skinnier, not fatter.
You had me at no problem.
If only…
"Do you see my fist? It was fists like these that built quaint Canadian cities out of the harsh Canadian wilderness, etc. etc."
Not in Seattle anymore.
by SeattleCapsFan on Oct 13, 2010 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions
Lucky. Part of my problem is that I like to eat entirely too much. My resting metabolism isn’t too bad, but it’s nowhere near that.
Slightly-related – Had to laugh at my trainer, who advised me based on his personal experience from that afternoon never to eat protein powder straight. Yeah, had no plans to.
Fantasy Teams: Baby Got Backstrom (Ladies of Twitter) and All's Fehr in the Crease (Six Beers Too Many)
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From LHH
Any guy with the brains and guts to write something like this
As for tonight, it’s a mismatch on paper: The Capitals cleared the East field by a whopping 18 points last year, while the Islanders fell nine points short of a playoff seed. Yet somehow these two disparate teams have produced some thrilling contests the last two years. Maybe it’s a credit to Bruce Boudreau and Scott Gordon’s approaches — a style that’s far from “cynical” (as they say in football soccer) and should, if there were any justice, please the hockey gods and reward longtime Caps fans with a Cup at some point in the Leonsis-Ovechkin era
deserves some page views, don’t you think? Would love to see the Isle and any fans that have stuck with them through the down years get rewarded with a good team.
Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?
nice. dominik has been doing such a good job there for years now. he’s finally getting a respectable number of comments, but still not enough. hopefully as that young team gets better the site will get more clicks.
by Natty Bumppo on Oct 13, 2010 9:07 AM EDT up reply actions
That was a great piece! I hope he gets more clicks, clearly he’s been earning them. The (presumed) typo of giving up on hockey for “god” instead of “good” at the end made for particularly effective imagery. I had this picture of a thickly bearded man in an old Mike Bossy jersey knocking tentatively on a monastery door.
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I actually had a discussion with him recently about bad luck and our respective franchises. He pretty much said the same thing you block quoted and seemed to actually wish for us to win one, finally. I can’t agree enough with the people that have already complimented his site. He does a fantastic job over there.
Lockout talk makes me want to go out and choke an old lady - Elliotte Friedman
As bad as I might feel for the Islanders right now, please remember that they have a few banners hanging in their rafters. I don’t feel THAT bad.
"It's always good to have vikings."
the list of AO's OT game-winners
atlanta still wins for me. the tying goal 30 seconds before the end of the third period. the winning goal six seconds into overtime. six seconds! montreal visiting DC with the 4 goals and broken nose was probably his best game, but that’s my favorite game-ending goal.
“Eric Fehr went with the 6,000-calories-a-day diet to add weight in the offseason”
Or, as it’s more commonly known, the “Mike Green’s Lunch” diet.
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by J.P. on Oct 13, 2010 9:28 AM EDT reply actions 9 recs
oooooooh. i like the long underline as a picture header. (easier to click on and all that.)
by Natty Bumppo on Oct 13, 2010 9:34 AM EDT up reply actions
KYLE WELLWOOD!!!
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Oct 13, 2010 9:32 AM EDT up reply actions
After reading Gabby, did anyone else come to the conclusion that Kyle Wellwood was the modern day Bruce Boudreau? Smallish player, offensively gifted, later-round draft pick by the Leafs, struggled with conditioning, etc. Only difference is that Wellwood got more of a shot in the NHL.
Boudreau was 10X the player Wellwood was, though. He held the junior scoring record until Gretzky broke it.
'Cause the end of what it was is what it is right now...
The parallels don’t hold up everywhere. Wellwood got a much better shot in the NHL than Boudreau ever did. I just got the impression when reading Gabby that I’d read this a similar story somewhere else.
Boudreau spent parts of seven seasons in the NHL. He got his chance. And it’s not like the Leafs were any good during his time there.
He just wasn’t a full-time NHL player. He was a very good AHL player, though.
Know the feeling…
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by ThePeerless on Oct 13, 2010 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions
LOL
re: Mitch Lamoureux. he played for the local Oshawa Generals in the early 80s when I was a kid and dated my babysitter.
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by Rather Bengt on Oct 13, 2010 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions
the 5’6 185 line may have had something to do with it.
I poured spot remover on my dog. Now he's gone.
by Rather Bengt on Oct 13, 2010 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions
His final year in Jrs for Oshawa
1981-82 Oshawa Generals OHL 66 games 43 goals 78 assists 121 points 275 PIM
I poured spot remover on my dog. Now he's gone.
by Rather Bengt on Oct 13, 2010 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions
Well actually...
I poured spot remover on my dog. Now he's gone.
by Rather Bengt on Oct 13, 2010 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions
Hey now!
A very misguided piece on Huffington Post recently called 30 Rock the most racist show on television thanks to Tracy Morgan’s wild, manic, madcap performance. Tonight illustrated why whoever wrote that piece is full of shit and should be punched in the face until he has a more nuanced grasp on comedy.
by Bald Pollack on Oct 13, 2010 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions
Funny you should whip out that Lebowski quote today, JP. I was this close to pulling it out during the whole “should there be leniency for NJD and their abysmal cap-era roster management” discussion the other day.
"Do you see my fist? It was fists like these that built quaint Canadian cities out of the harsh Canadian wilderness, etc. etc."
Not in Seattle anymore.
I was this close to pulling it out
Isolate that
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Oct 13, 2010 9:41 AM EDT up reply actions
…and add it to the talk of li’l Varly up top
"Do you see my fist? It was fists like these that built quaint Canadian cities out of the harsh Canadian wilderness, etc. etc."
Not in Seattle anymore.
by SeattleCapsFan on Oct 13, 2010 9:43 AM EDT up reply actions
“whip out” and “pulling it out” in the same two-sentence post. we know where your mind is this morning!
by Natty Bumppo on Oct 13, 2010 9:44 AM EDT up reply actions
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Oct 13, 2010 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
I wish we had the sound effect for this.
by DrinkingPartner on Oct 13, 2010 9:57 AM EDT up reply actions
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Or at least the one for the Oscar-winning version (starring George C. Scott)
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Oct 13, 2010 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions
I’ve found there to be a tragic shortage of Lebowski references related to the AO bowling ball ad. For example, someone could remix the ad with the audio running, “What do you mean brought it bowling, Dude? I didn’t rent it shoes. I’m not buying it a fucking beer. He’s not taking your fucking turn, Dude.” “Man, if my fuckin’ ex-wife asked me to take care of [Ovechkin] while she and her boyfriend went to Honolulu I’d tell her to go fuck herself.”
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If I had any sort of technology skills I’d volunteer. But alas, I do not.
"Do you see my fist? It was fists like these that built quaint Canadian cities out of the harsh Canadian wilderness, etc. etc."
Not in Seattle anymore.
by SeattleCapsFan on Oct 13, 2010 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions
I’ve found there to be a tragic shortage of Lebowski references related to the AO bowling ball ad.
Yeah, well, you know, that’s just, like, your opinion, man.
by David Getz on Oct 13, 2010 9:57 AM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
I’ve found there to be a tragic shortage of Lebowski references related to the AO bowling ball ad
Maybe we are just a bunch of Nihilists.
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by Rather Bengt on Oct 13, 2010 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions
I think a “Mark it Zero (current goalie du jour)-ye” T-shirt would be awesome.
A very misguided piece on Huffington Post recently called 30 Rock the most racist show on television thanks to Tracy Morgan’s wild, manic, madcap performance. Tonight illustrated why whoever wrote that piece is full of shit and should be punched in the face until he has a more nuanced grasp on comedy.
by Bald Pollack on Oct 13, 2010 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions
The Lighthouse Hockey preview also had a Lebowski reference. At this point, it’s pretty much mandatory to have a Caucasian while watching the game tonight.
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by Laich It Or Lump It on Oct 13, 2010 9:48 AM EDT up reply actions
Okay, but that’ll require a pre-game stop somewhere. Not sure I’d be willing to drink anything with milk in it from the Turtle.
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Bad joke for a Caps fan:
Guy walks into a bar and says to the bartender, “Pour me an Ovechkin.”
Bartender says, “What’s an Ovechkin?”
Guy replies, “A white Russian without the ice or cup.”
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by Alz Well That Ends Well on Oct 13, 2010 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Oct 13, 2010 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Here’s a better one for a Caps fan:
Crosby walks into a coffee shop, sits down and orders a cup of coffee. The waiter brings it to him and Sid drinks it, then signals to the waiter again.
“Can I have another one?” Sid asks.
The waiter replies, “Sorry, Sid, only one cup for you.”
[Of course “only” one cup is better than none but I needed to cut the depression.]
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VS Bus/Bus Stop Ad Campaign
I guess I should have stopped and taken a picture yesterday…I saw a bus with the ad yesterday in D.C., but I think it was an Omniride bus not on a MetroBus.
Link to piece about VS Bus/Bus stop ads
(I saw this mentioned on HFBs a few hours after seeing the bus, if it had been the reverse I would have taken a picture)
People keep sleeping on Versus, but it’s not the fly-by-night network everyone seems to thing it is.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Oct 13, 2010 9:48 AM EDT up reply actions
/think
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Oct 13, 2010 9:48 AM EDT up reply actions
It could be that people don’t recognize Versus because just Sports Center has more viewers a week than Versus has in 2 months. And ever since Napoleon got all high and mighty with ESPN after the lockout the Advertisers have had the NHL over a barrel.
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Versus reaches something like 70 million people. And it’s backed by Comcast (which could/might/possibly) merge with NBC, which makes everything in sports media a whole new ballgame, especially if they keep getting things ESPN doesn’t have (like MLS and the NHL).
How have the advertisers had the NHL “over a barrel”? Last time I checked, they do pretty well in the world of corporate sponsorships.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Oct 13, 2010 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions
I’ve never seen an external number that says Versus is “available” in more than 40 million households, let alone has a viewership of 70 million. (not that I spend my nights looking a market share research.) But I would like to know if the 70 million is over X months or a year.
Advertisers have the NHL over a barrel because before the lockout the NHL charged ESPN 65M/season for the licensing rights to show game highlights. Also in the 2003 season, hockey accounted for 18 minutes of each 42 minute episode of Sports Center. This put increased value on the games in local markets as hockey would have more contact with casual viewership. (Sports Center reaches over 88 million viewers per month) After the lockout, Bettman rejected ESPN’s offer of $32.5 million for seasonal rights, and the NHL languished in viewership and ad revenue. Without a major sports network agreeing to carrying LEAGUE WIDE highlights, casual viewership went way down, further decreasing the NHL’s bargain muscle with advertisers. The season after the lockout was the first year the NHL dropped below basketball and NASCAR in total viewers and Advertising dollars.
Also the first year back the NHL got 58% of the ad revenue they’d received in the last active year. They’ve made steady improvement of more than 10% on that each of the first 3 years, and around 4% each of the last two years. That’s still less than they made in the 03 season. Viewership is up overall, but only in the bigger markets, and only when those markets play each other. Washington vs. Pittsburgh only happens 4 times a season. Carolina vs. Tampa Bay (or florida, or Atlanta) happens 6 times. And there’s a world of difference in market share viewership and ad revenue for those games. And there are way, way more small market games than big market games.
Bettman basically let his pride at being low-balled by ESPN really hurt NHL exposure at a vulnerable time for the League. I’m really glad there’s an NHL network and a show with just NHL highlights, but it’s nowhere near 1,056,000,000 viewers a year. And you can bet that amount of eyeballs makes a difference when charging advertisers for your games.
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Five Pacific 10 Conference games (as yet undetermined) as well as an assortment of Big 12 and Mountain West games, and an NHL package of 54 games could become unavailable to DirecTV subscribers just when those seasons start. The first Pac-10 game on the Versus schedule will be Sept. 26.
According to Versus, it is now seen in 75 million homes. Besides college football and the NHL, Versus is the home of the Tour de France, IRL auto racing and cage fighting.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Oct 13, 2010 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions
Well, it’s AVAILABLE in just about any house with satellite, Fios, or cable, right? But many people don’t pay for a higher tier of service.
You had me at no problem.
But even that is a pretty significant change. Until recently…last season?…many cable providers did not even offer Versus.
Heh. By “varies considerably” you mean not offered at all? I spend a considerable amount of time traveling and I have yet to stay at a hotel that has VS.
It’s been at some of the hotels I stayed in. One funny story from last spring, I was staying at a Courtyard in the south and the tv list was lengthy. I looked through it several times for VS, couldn’t find it and went down to the desk to ask about a local sports bar. Reaction was of course we get VS and they did, they turned the tv in the lobby to the channel, but when we look at the list, it was still listed as OLN (ha ha, there was a time when I would have thought to look for the Outdoor Life Network on the listing), but not in the Spring of 2009.
For any other DirecTV subscribers who almost had a heart attack skimming the clips thread — yes this article is about last year. They’re not taking our Versus away again.
Carry on.
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by Gould Old Days on Oct 13, 2010 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t follow things of this nature too closely, but I imagine that lockout you keep mentioning had a whole lot to do with the loss of viewership and revenue and not just the inability of ESPN to make fun of hockey while they show token highlights. Plus, of course viewership is better for big market games. How is that any different than pre-lockout?
Plus, didn’t the NHL get $100 million from VS for the TV rights? That’s gotta go a long ways towards making up for loss of revenue.
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by Killer_Carlson on Oct 13, 2010 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions
i don’t think they do such a bad job, but i’d like to see more hockey-related programming outside the games. nightly highlights, even if it’s late late at night? pre-season coverage? trade deadline coverage? whether these are things the NHL is keeping for its own network, or they’re programming decisions of VS, i don’t know.
also, when i lived in chicago (15 months ago), my girlfriend and i lived across the street from each other, and we each had different cable packages. she had ~60 channels and no versus. i had ~80 channels and no versus. i shelled out for the games online through NHL.com, but then when a game came on versus (i.e. all the caps playoff games), the online feed blacked out because it was “nationally televised.” so i watched a lot of games from bars. maybe they’re reaching more television sets now? i was pretty bitter at the time.
by Natty Bumppo on Oct 13, 2010 9:57 AM EDT up reply actions
Plus side of Chicago (at least as it pertains to hockey)? Wolves games regularly broadcasted on basic cable. I loved getting a taste of the AHL on a regular basis.
really?? that’s cool. wish i’d known. when i moved there in 2008, though, it was a big deal they were showing all 82 blackhawks games. apparently the year before the local sports channel didn’t show ~10 select away games due to costs.
by Natty Bumppo on Oct 13, 2010 10:01 AM EDT up reply actions
Well, I can’t promise they do it anymore, but they were doing it in 2003 when I was there. Hawks games not being on TV had a lot to do with Wirtz, if I remember correctly, so maybe the demand for Wolves game isn’t there anymore.
"dollar bill" wirtz?
yeah, his wikipedia entry isn’t kind.
by Natty Bumppo on Oct 13, 2010 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions
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to be more clear, my GF and i had different cable PROVIDERS, not just different packages. so two different cable providers in downtown chicago, covering the apartments across the street from one another, and neither had versus as part of anything but a premium sports package.
by Natty Bumppo on Oct 13, 2010 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions
That’s the same story in Portland, Maine with the NHL Network. Fortunately VS., is part of the basic cable package. NHL Network is not. If I had to pick one I’d rather have Versus. Like you did I shell out the money to watch online, but I’ll be out of luck when the Caps are on NHLN. Fortunately that only figures to be 2-3 times this season I believe.
by BradleyFightingVehicle on Oct 13, 2010 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions
Btw what is most annoying about this is that MLB Network, NFL Network, and maybe even NBA Network (not sure on the last, I’ve never tried to watch) are ALL included in the same basic cable package.
by BradleyFightingVehicle on Oct 13, 2010 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions
I’m not really sure, but I think you have to get the “extra” sports package to get the NHL Network (at least on Comcast). It’s the one that gives you like 3 dozen college sports networks and FSC and that sort of thing.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Oct 13, 2010 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions
I believe you’re right. It’s Time Warner up here, but I think they do the same thing as Comcast. Having Time Warner has really made me miss the Verizon Fios my family has back in DC.
by BradleyFightingVehicle on Oct 13, 2010 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions
You do. I know because I just got that package, primarily for the NHL Network.
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same here, although we also use it for MLB Network.
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I would really like it if Cable was a la carte and I could actually pick and choose (and pay for) the networks I actually WANTED on my system.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Oct 13, 2010 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions
I’ve actually had that conversation with my roommate. Because there is a lot of crap on there we never watch. I’d gladly trade several channels for some HBO and NHLN!
by BradleyFightingVehicle on Oct 13, 2010 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions
same. I have to pay $150 a month for the 10 channels I actually watch.
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I see the potential in Versus. ESPN would clearly rather be covering NASCAR, MLB and the NBA, so let them. I’d rather have hockey be top-dog on a smaller network than an also-ran on ESPN.
That being said, Versus DESPERATELY needs a nightly hockey show akin to the old NHL2Night. They also desperately need to get rid of Engblom – he hasn’t said anything interesting since those old Bud Light ads.
Here’s a perfect example – they talked for 5 minutes last night about the role of fighting in the game with Darren McCarty actually providing some semi-coherent commentary… but they only talked about the Ivanans-MacIntyre fight. They SHOULD have contrasted that with what happened toward the end of the Caps-Devils game; I would have given anything to hear Jones and McCarty’s opinions about what PLL did. Instead, we got boring retread opinions about a boring retread topic.
Give me someone young-ish with a passion for the game and a quick wit, and pair him/her with a crusty old coach and break down NHL highlights every night with good background music. Throw in a couple of “behind-the-scenes” vignettes on slow nights and voila.
'Cause the end of what it was is what it is right now...
i think i’m at the point where i’d rather it be in more homes than have better coverage. especially now that NHL network exists for the more avid fans.
by Natty Bumppo on Oct 13, 2010 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions
I think I disagree here. I’d prefer depth to breadth.
'Cause the end of what it was is what it is right now...
That’s what she said.
"Do you see my fist? It was fists like these that built quaint Canadian cities out of the harsh Canadian wilderness, etc. etc."
Not in Seattle anymore.
by SeattleCapsFan on Oct 13, 2010 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
I’m with Natty. Almost no one I know gets Versus because its not on a basic satellite or cable tier. Of all the hotels I’ve stayed in since the network debuted only one had it.
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by Carl Putnam on Oct 13, 2010 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions
Ha, I just posted something about VS and hotels before I saw this. It’s been in more than 1 hotel for me, but definitely an issue when I have traveled.
It’s funny — every hotel I’ve ever been to has atdhe or jasontv…
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Oct 13, 2010 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions
I finally shelled out for Gamecenter for when I travel. I hate its local blackouts (which prevent me from keeping games on in the background when I’m stuck in the office late at night) but it’s otherwise pretty good.
My lawful good alignment won’t let me use ATHDE, sadly. (Yes, I said that).
by Wheeler on Oct 13, 2010 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
My lawful good alignment
I love being chaotic neutral.
'Cause the end of what it was is what it is right now...
Don’t make me break out my retired 25th Level AD&D 1st edition Monk, Olgelthorpe “The Sanguine Slaughterer.” He’s very intolerant of anything resembling entropy. :-)
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Boooo! My half-orc frenzied berserker, Margruul, would teach your monk a lesson or two! He’s very intolerant of… Well, everything.
This is on-topic, right?
You had me at no problem.
NHL Network had a clip at the bottom of the screen today saying they’d be showing AHL games there. I don’t know anything else about it, but I did see that.
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http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=540413
They are only showing games with at least one Canadian affiliate. Marlies, Bulldogs, Heat, Moose, etc.
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I knew there was something too good to be true about that. Thanks for the info.
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I used to swear by atdhe, but it was easier when I only had to watch 5-10 games on it every year. Living in the non-DC area as I do now I find the investment in Gamecenter to be worth it. Service is more reliable, less likely for a game to go out midstream. And if you think about it, you get all 82 games (except, in my case, when they play the Bruins or are on Versus/NBC/NHLN) for $160, which around $2 a game. Plus you get every other non nationally televised game. As much as there is to hate on about the NHL sometimes, they get Gamecenter right.
by BradleyFightingVehicle on Oct 13, 2010 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions
The fact they black out the Versus games, which I don’t get on my “I’m a miser” cable package, irks me. I get it, but it still irks me.
Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?
they also block out NHL network games.
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they also used to steal the gamecenter feed. do they still do that? last time i checked atdhe was just giving links to justin.TV and others, which meant pretty crappy quality.
by Natty Bumppo on Oct 13, 2010 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Last I checked (late last regular season) this was the case for me too.
by BradleyFightingVehicle on Oct 13, 2010 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions
I get it on the basic cable package here. I had trouble last year because of DirecTV.
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Is your provider Comcast?
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by Carl Putnam on Oct 13, 2010 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions
The basic Time-Warner cable package I had in NC also had VS/OLN — coverage is probably all about geography. (I remember being pissed off that I was paying for a channel that was seemingly centered on animals meeting a grisly end when I’d been vegetarian for 20 years.)
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I’m a little confused by people who are really into hockey but not willing to pay for the additional tier to have Versus. How much does this cost? I have Comcast so it’s part of basic, but I pay about $7 anyway for the sports package, it’s worth it for NFL Redzone channel. Maybe the additional tier costs a lot more than $7, but if you are really into it, isn’t the money worth it, if you could afford it?
by vtcapsfan99 on Oct 13, 2010 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions
There’s a difference between not wanting to pay/not being happy about paying additional money and not paying. For people who don’t watch most cable channels and are already paying significant $ per month for the service, it is annoying to have to pay more to get the 1 or 2 channels one actually wants to watch on top of the already high costs.
And for myself, where it would only cost $4 a month to get NHL Network and a host of other channels (fortunately already have Versus). It would be a big pain because would have to get it approved by our landlord who controls the cable (it is factored into the rent). She’s not easily accessible either. We’ve thought about it, but ultimately decided its not worth the effort for now.
That may change now that the Caps are going to be on HBO. May have to have a little chat with our landlord now. I’d rather change the cable package all in one go, and throw in a DVR while we’re at it!
by BradleyFightingVehicle on Oct 13, 2010 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions
who are really into hockey
Those people aren’t the issue. It’s casual fans or fans who like hockey, but don’t feel like they will watch enough to justify the expense. I have a number of friends who grew up hockey fans, but rarely watch games anymore because they don’t get the channels games are on. Diehards with available cash will always find a way to get the games. In order for hockey to be successful and to grow they need as many possible eyeballs as they can get. This is why I argued against the Versus deal after the lockout. It was short term gain versus long term growth. The league went for the cash up front.
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by Carl Putnam on Oct 13, 2010 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions
I pay about $7 anyway for the sports package, it’s worth it for NFL Redzone channel.
Do you mean the NFL Network? RedZone channel costs a lot more than $7. $50 for the season, at least for me the past two years. But, it is the most incredible sports channel ever invented. I’d pay double that in order to have it.
Really? It’s just part of my sports package (NHL, NBA, MLB, NFL and about a dozen worthless hunting and racing channels).
we at least get a whole slew of Big 10 network channels with our package.
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Huh. I better look into my cable package. I have FiOS, and added the Extreme HD package two years ago, which gave me a bunch of sports channels (NHL, MLB, NBA, NFL) and movie channels. But starting last season, I ordered the RedZone channel a la carte for $49.95, and did the same thing this season.
I get Comcast, and both NHL Network and NFL Redzone are in the sports package, which costs $6.95/month. I just signed up for it a couple days ago, so my memory is fresh on this.
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You’re also forgetting diehards without available cash. Back in Seattle I was too poor to even have a cable box, so getting any package that included NHL games would have cost way more than $7 a month. That’s where the online feed came in for me, but most people just wouldn’t bother.
"Do you see my fist? It was fists like these that built quaint Canadian cities out of the harsh Canadian wilderness, etc. etc."
Not in Seattle anymore.
by SeattleCapsFan on Oct 13, 2010 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions
the diehards without cash come to japers’ rink, where they get premium service at no charge!
by Natty Bumppo on Oct 13, 2010 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Exactly :)
"Do you see my fist? It was fists like these that built quaint Canadian cities out of the harsh Canadian wilderness, etc. etc."
Not in Seattle anymore.
by SeattleCapsFan on Oct 13, 2010 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions
I’ll send you an email soon about trying to get you to a Nov game, along with our foul-mouthed lawyer friend who cusses at grandma season tickets holders in front of us.
dude don’t forget the innocent teenagers.
by Natty Bumppo on Oct 13, 2010 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Those were grandma STHs in front of your seats. I don’t think they liked me very much when I went last year.
"Do you see my fist? It was fists like these that built quaint Canadian cities out of the harsh Canadian wilderness, etc. etc."
Not in Seattle anymore.
by SeattleCapsFan on Oct 13, 2010 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Speaking of which, if you ever want to unload your seats again shoot me an email. I’ll be around/looking for tickets through at least December, if not longer.
"Do you see my fist? It was fists like these that built quaint Canadian cities out of the harsh Canadian wilderness, etc. etc."
Not in Seattle anymore.
by SeattleCapsFan on Oct 13, 2010 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions
I had to read that twice to make sure it was “grandma STHs” and not “grandma STDs”
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Oct 13, 2010 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Sounds like someone I know…
Release the Mackan!
by Killer_Carlson on Oct 13, 2010 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions
I miss NHL2Night. When K_C got introduced at his wedding reception he and his wife came out to the NHL2Night theme music. Fucking awesome.
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by Rob Parker on Oct 13, 2010 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
that might answer the question we posed pre-draft.
by Natty Bumppo on Oct 13, 2010 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Mine, obviously. NHL2Night music is nice, but a Stanley Cup ice luge is better.
Lockout talk makes me want to go out and choke an old lady - Elliotte Friedman
the third party brother wouldn’t give an opinion.
by Natty Bumppo on Oct 13, 2010 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Your wedding also had a WAY better best man.
Release the Mackan!
by Killer_Carlson on Oct 13, 2010 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions
i support a trip to OT thread for a full breakdown of strengths vs. strengths. the cup ice luge does sound pretty sick.
by Natty Bumppo on Oct 13, 2010 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions
clever stuff. would definitely be interested in seeing the DC ads. i miss my chicago bus commute.
by Natty Bumppo on Oct 13, 2010 9:48 AM EDT up reply actions
Wow those ads are awesome. I’d love to see the DC one.
"Do you see my fist? It was fists like these that built quaint Canadian cities out of the harsh Canadian wilderness, etc. etc."
Not in Seattle anymore.
by SeattleCapsFan on Oct 13, 2010 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions
Oh and I’m not a fanpost/fanshot person but if someone wants to make this into whichever type is the appropriate one so people can post pictures if they see a bus or bus stop with the Caps ad that would be great.
Bossy & Trottier
In tribute of our friends on the Island and at Lighthouse Hockey, you should treat yourself and look up some early 80s clips of Mike Bossy and Brian Trottier working together. If you get sheer pleasure watching OV and Backs in synch when playing then you would love seeing how Mike Bossy and Brian Trottier worked in tandem during NYI’s glory years.
The following clip is from the 1980 All Star Game and is just a taste of how these two worked it down low:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6r-ThK53co
I poured spot remover on my dog. Now he's gone.
by Rather Bengt on Oct 13, 2010 10:23 AM EDT reply actions 2 recs
Mike Bossy is the most underrated “great” player ever.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Oct 13, 2010 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions
Dude played in the NHL for 10 years. Scored over 50 goals in 9 of them (the 10th he only played 38 games). 5 of those seasons he had over 60. Was the second player ever to score 50 in 50 after Richard.
In his best season, 1981-82, he dropped 64/83/147, and added 17/10/27 in 19 playoff games.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Oct 13, 2010 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions
Shame what a wonky back will do/
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by Rather Bengt on Oct 13, 2010 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions
In 752 games he put up 573/553/1126. In 129 playoff games: 85/75/160.
Guy averaged 1.5 points a game. Ungodly.
And yet, whenever the greatest players of this game are mentioned, he’s almost never brought up.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Oct 13, 2010 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions
One of Bossy’s most famous goals from 1982. Scored while in mid air after being tripped by Tiger Williams.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UoqYZlq6Q80
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by Rather Bengt on Oct 13, 2010 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions
Every time I hear about that Brodeur I still think he’s Marty.
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King Richard
That playoff run by the Nucks in 1982 was probably Richard Brodeur’s NHL career highlight (he previously led his team to a WHA championship in the late 70s). Many Canuck fans still talk fondly of “King Richard” because of that year although he never matched that success in his latter years with the team.
I poured spot remover on my dog. Now he's gone.
by Rather Bengt on Oct 13, 2010 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Also the guy Gretzky got his first NHL goal on, if I recall correctly.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Oct 13, 2010 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Actually 99 scored his first NHL goal on ex-Caps coach Glen Hanlon
From the Oilers’ heritage site:
Earlier, referee Bob Myers was ready to call a penalty on Stan Smyl for tripping Gretzky, even though Smyl was on a breakaway at the time. With Oilers goalie Dave Dryden rushing to the players bench for an extra attacker, Gretzky was finding his way towards Canucks goalie Glen Hanlon’s crease. With the puck on his stick, he faked Hanlon with a move and was ready for a shot on his backhand. He whiffed. Fortunately, Hanlon opened his five-hole, and a trickling puck made its way past the goal line
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by Rather Bengt on Oct 13, 2010 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions
I knew it was someone from the Canucks.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Oct 13, 2010 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Anybody who doesn’t know how great Mike Bossy was doesn’t know the history of hockey. I grew up a Rangers fan, and the only thing any Islander fan in the park had to say to make all us kids in our Beezer jerseys lose any argument was, “Mike Bossy.”
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His career shooting percentage is 21.2%. He got 1.5 points per game only taking an average of three shots a game.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Oct 13, 2010 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I didn’t know that stat! Undeniably one of the greatest to ever lace up skates.
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To paraphrase the words of my good friend Bert Cooper, “the man was an astronaut”
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Oct 13, 2010 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Any great Mad Men Line gets a rec from me. Now fetch me my shoes.
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by Rather Bengt on Oct 13, 2010 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions
The best pure goal-scorer in the history of the sport. If he played as many games as Wayne Gretzky and scored at his goals-per-game rate, he’d have finished his career with over 1,100 goals. He averaged 62 goals per 82 games in his career.
If you've read this far...seek help.
by ThePeerless on Oct 13, 2010 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions
A related data point – adjusted goals (and games played) over first five full NHL seasons:
Alex Ovechkin 286 (396)
Brett Hull 280 (389)
Wayne Gretzky 279 (393)
Mario Lemiuex 247 (368)
Mike Bossy 247 (387)
It’s not hyperbole to say that Alex Ovechkin might be the greatest goal scorer that has ever played the game.
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by J.P. on Oct 13, 2010 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
I take it that by “adjusted,” you mean adjusted to the relative level of league-wide scoring, correct?
'Cause the end of what it was is what it is right now...
Yeah (hard math done by HockeyReference.com).
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I’d agree, but Ovechkin might already have hit his prime in that regard. His last three seasons GPG: 0.79, 0.71, 0.69
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by ThePeerless on Oct 13, 2010 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions
But his adjusted goals/game were actually up a tick last season over the year before (.764 from .747). Perhaps he’s not quite dead yet…
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He’ll also get better as he gets smarter, and the players around him also mature.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Oct 13, 2010 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Could it not also be that Ovi has to be even more creative in how he scores goals. In that 65 goal season other players hadn’t quite figured out how to defend against some of his favorite moves—moving the puck through the defender’s legs for example. I appreciated how Ovi switched up his shot in his OT goal—it was more of a fake then a deceptive, not as fast shot.
Alright, confess-how many goals are you going to make this year?
"I'm not going to tell!"
Well can you at least guarantee fifty?
"No way. I have a different objective. To win."
by capsyoungguns on Oct 13, 2010 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions
He has performed at that level for his first 5 years, but he’ll have to keep it up like this for another 5+ to be in the “greatest ever” conversation, I think. Certainly, at least 500 goals are needed.
You had me at no problem.
I think when his career’s done, you have to look at his best five-year stretch and see how he stacks up with the other guys. I’m sure he’ll always be in the conversation, though.
Best 5-year stretch will be quite a bit more competitive than 1st 5 years…
I don’t know what the number is after being adjusted for year, but Gretzky averaged 75.6 goals per season from 80-81 to 84-85, in his 3rd – 7th seasons in the NHL.
You had me at no problem.
On sheer numbers he’ll never match, but adjusted I think he’ll be right there. AO plays against by far the toughest D competition of the group.
Lockout talk makes me want to go out and choke an old lady - Elliotte Friedman
Not to mention the goaltending (unless you were including that in the D competition).
The guy is Peter Schumpmaker. Lord knows what a schump is, but you can bet your bippy his ancestors made them. What he's doing is far worse than crafting fine schumps.
by Steckel Me Elmo on Oct 13, 2010 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions
SI ran an article a while back, and they had a table of the best goal scoring seasons (adjusted for league scoring). Brett Hull’s 86 was #1, AO’s 65 was #2.
by red army line on Oct 14, 2010 5:38 AM EDT up reply actions
I’m not big on evaluating a player until his body of work is complete. Two years ago, Tiger Woods was the greatest golfer in the history of the sport. We’re not hearing that kind of thing these days. Not saying Ovechkin is going to drive his Mercedes into a fire hydrant after getting whacked with a hockey stick in the chops, but things happen.
If you've read this far...seek help.
by ThePeerless on Oct 13, 2010 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions
No doubt. That said, Tiger, in his best years, was the most dominant golfer the game has ever seen. Ovi may very well prove to be the same.
I’ve written plenty (as have others) about how historically dominant AO has been, the degree to which he has outscored all others. To be sure, we’ll wait and see what the future holds. But given that the past and present are all we can evaluate upon right now, that’s what we do. And AO stacks up rather favorably.
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by J.P. on Oct 13, 2010 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
I think Mirtle looked at Green’s 07-08 season in relation to other high-scoring d-men. I’ll see if I can find it. The gist was, sit back and enjoy folks, because this is historic.
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worked it down low
Cue SeattleCapsFan in 3. . .2. . .1. . .
'Cause the end of what it was is what it is right now...
I saw that and decided to let you have a go, D’ohboy.
"Do you see my fist? It was fists like these that built quaint Canadian cities out of the harsh Canadian wilderness, etc. etc."
Not in Seattle anymore.
by SeattleCapsFan on Oct 13, 2010 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions
I’m still in repose after the Christina Hendricks photo.
'Cause the end of what it was is what it is right now...
by D'ohboy on Oct 13, 2010 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
…can’t….resist…must…not. Oh to hell with it. "How fast did you reach ‘repose’ after seeing Ms. Hendricks’ photo?
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by Boggles on Oct 13, 2010 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Love the synergy. Really though, no one does clips the way JP does. You set the bar high.
Alright, confess-how many goals are you going to make this year?
"I'm not going to tell!"
Well can you at least guarantee fifty?
"No way. I have a different objective. To win."
by capsyoungguns on Oct 13, 2010 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions
Unpaid Shill
Getting the Ted’s Take shout out, FTW! What’s the book on you getting called, “Shill” or “Sycophant” by Cox before today’s COB?
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By Damien Cox and Greg Wyshynski (with forward by Ted Leonsis)
If you've read this far...seek help.
by ThePeerless on Oct 13, 2010 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Hockey’s Most Dangerous Blogger from the Most Powerful City in the World?
How many superlatives can we get in the title?
"Do you see my fist? It was fists like these that built quaint Canadian cities out of the harsh Canadian wilderness, etc. etc."
Not in Seattle anymore.
by SeattleCapsFan on Oct 13, 2010 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions
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Well now you guys are just throwing adjectives around
"Do you see my fist? It was fists like these that built quaint Canadian cities out of the harsh Canadian wilderness, etc. etc."
Not in Seattle anymore.
by SeattleCapsFan on Oct 13, 2010 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions
Technically that is paid shill. Ted’s got skin in the SBN game.
The Artist Formerly Known as CP2Devil.
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by Carl Putnam on Oct 13, 2010 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions
As an FYI (for all), it’s an incredibly small stake (percentage-wise), and the compensation bloggers receive here is… well, let’s just say no one’s doing it for the money. But yeah, he is an investor in the network.
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I was just making the point he was an investor. Full disclosure and all.
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by Carl Putnam on Oct 13, 2010 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions
No doubt – not something we’d ever try to hide, but also not anything that in any way, shape or form impacts the editorial decisions or content of this site (and I know you’re not implying otherwise).
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No impact to content, but isn’t it true that the ketchup dispensers at the SBN commissary have been unusually full lately?
Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...
by dcsportsfan1 on Oct 13, 2010 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions
Sorry, didn’t mean to cause any consternation and certainly wasn’t implying that said investment impacts anything you do. I think the comments on the poor VC ice alone makes it clear who is in charge of editorial decisions here.
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by Carl Putnam on Oct 13, 2010 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions
Not gonna lie, I had no idea there was any money in it for you guys at all.
"Do you see my fist? It was fists like these that built quaint Canadian cities out of the harsh Canadian wilderness, etc. etc."
Not in Seattle anymore.
by SeattleCapsFan on Oct 13, 2010 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions
I assumed their had to be some compensation. It’s too much work, too much of an obvious operating cost for all the sites, to have an all volunteer system.
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I don’t think anyone here is paying for their season tickets with the proceeds from blogging. It’s a labor of love by the fan(atic)s.
You had me at no problem.
just say no one’s doing it for the money
I’ve never thought so much about compensation…but I have wondered how you juggle full time employment with the site. Obviously to some degree that’s why you’ve brought on other contributors…but it still seems like it’s pretty time-consuming.
Well it can’t be said enough, but major props to you. And props to your wife for being oh-so understanding.
"Do you see my fist? It was fists like these that built quaint Canadian cities out of the harsh Canadian wilderness, etc. etc."
Not in Seattle anymore.
by SeattleCapsFan on Oct 13, 2010 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions
I have no clue how you do it.
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by Carl Putnam on Oct 13, 2010 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions
i just want to say again that the time you spend in the comment section (as well as other unseen moderation efforts) is almost as valuable as the time you spend writing/researching. the editors make this site such a good place to come and convene with other fans.
by Natty Bumppo on Oct 13, 2010 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed. I might not have started commenting if I didn’t see J.P. and DMG in the comments defending their post and/or clarifying points.
Lockout talk makes me want to go out and choke an old lady - Elliotte Friedman
I find it hard to believe that you would have been able to keep quiet.
"Do you see my fist? It was fists like these that built quaint Canadian cities out of the harsh Canadian wilderness, etc. etc."
Not in Seattle anymore.
by SeattleCapsFan on Oct 13, 2010 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
i won’t ask which task is more tiresome, the reading/writing or the constant comment feedback, nudging and good humor. it reminds me of what i’m going through as a TA right now: which do i like more, grading papers or explaining subjects/grades to students? i’m not really sure, they’re both a hell of a lot of work.
by Natty Bumppo on Oct 13, 2010 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions
(in other words, i could easily fill my day answering emails, and i’m sure you could easily fill your day hanging out in the comment section…..i know a lot of us do!)
by Natty Bumppo on Oct 13, 2010 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Met someone this weekend who reads the site pretty frequently (don’t think he’s a commenter, though) and when he found out I wrote for the site, know what he told me?
“Oh, I love those links you guys have every morning!”
Safe to say that no matter what content we churn out, the most impressive and lauded part of the site – and deservedly so – remains the Clips. Truly an incredible daily feat, by JP and now Emily.
If anyone needs me, I'll be at Kettler.
Though you may need to rely on your work as a day laborer to provide sustenance, you are nevertheless rich in reputation and bear a powerful and kingly stature in the blogger and SB Nation NHL realms.
Thank you for providing so much to we poor peasants thirsting for information about the Caps and for greater knowledge of this deceptively simple game known as hockey.
Alright, confess-how many goals are you going to make this year?
"I'm not going to tell!"
Well can you at least guarantee fifty?
"No way. I have a different objective. To win."
by capsyoungguns on Oct 13, 2010 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions
That’s how it’s done, F&B. Take note.
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Per Katie, I’m glad to hear that Mackan is skating.
by DrinkingPartner on Oct 13, 2010 10:40 AM EDT reply actions
Very glad to hear that. I hate “week-to-week.”
Alright, confess-how many goals are you going to make this year?
"I'm not going to tell!"
Well can you at least guarantee fifty?
"No way. I have a different objective. To win."
by capsyoungguns on Oct 13, 2010 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions
Uncle Nicky gave him a little jar of thunder honey.
You perhaps knew me better as "Your Nation's Capital." Same great commentary, now with 100% more transparency!
by EmilyB on Oct 13, 2010 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Thunder Honey sounds like Mike Green, the Big Mac years.
Human existence being an hallucination containing in itself the secondary hallucinations of day and night (the latter an insanitary condition of the atmosphere due to accretions of black air) it ill becomes any man of sense to be concerned at the illusory approach of the supreme hallucination known as death.
No, Thunder Honey is the girl Green hooks up with when he’s in a slump.
'Cause the end of what it was is what it is right now...
Is “Green” your third person nickname?
by Cluster on Oct 13, 2010 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Looks like you’re going to have to explain swedish cartoons again. :-)
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I’m looking at that bear swigging thunder honey right now on my desktop.
Alright, confess-how many goals are you going to make this year?
"I'm not going to tell!"
Well can you at least guarantee fifty?
"No way. I have a different objective. To win."
by capsyoungguns on Oct 13, 2010 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions
The WaPo piece on Fehr was probably the first thing by Katie that I’ve liked. Pretty simple/basic, but I thought it outlined Fehr’s growth pretty fairly.
I get really irritated when people compare Fehr to Flash, because they are such different players. But I’m really excited to watch Fehr get a bit more ice time and continue to grow this season. Especially if he and MH continue to make magic like they did on Monday.
"Do you see my fist? It was fists like these that built quaint Canadian cities out of the harsh Canadian wilderness, etc. etc."
Not in Seattle anymore.
by SeattleCapsFan on Oct 13, 2010 10:41 AM EDT reply actions
If I cover my head with a towel, will it disappear?
“Nicky and [Alex] are going to end up playing together for 10 years for the most part,” Boudreau said. “Every now and again, you move them around. I don’t know if I’ll do it tomorrow, but it was looking okay today.”
Here’s what the forward lines looked like:
Ovechkin-Fleischmann-Knuble
Laich-Backstrom-Semin
Chimera-Hendricks-Fehr
King-Steckel-B.Gordon
The eagle never lost so much time as when he submitted to learn from the crow.
Well that solves the second line center problem.
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by jordanDC on Oct 13, 2010 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
I like it. Ovie will produce with or without Backstrom feeding him, and maybe Backstrom can get Laich and Semin going.
Worth a shot, anyways.
You had me at no problem.
According to Bruce via Katie, the equipment people put the wrong jerseys out and Boudreau decided to see what it would look like. Backis is staying with Ovie and Knuble.
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by Alz Well That Ends Well on Oct 13, 2010 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions
technically according to bruce via gene wang
just saw that.
loved this quote from BB:
“I don’t know. That line would be pretty good. I don’t know why we’d call it the second line, but that’s me.”
couldn’t agree more. any line nick is the 1st line, as long as he has at least one russian winger.
by Natty Bumppo on Oct 13, 2010 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions
“The equipment people put the wrong jerseys out”
Okay. Whatever you say, Bruce.
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by EmilyB on Oct 13, 2010 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
GOD, he knows how to work the media sometimes, doesn’t he?? I’m not sure how much other teams pay attention to this kind of thing but you have to think hearing of a possible Flash-Backstrom flip-flop at least made Scott Gordon pause in his approach to this one…
If anyone needs me, I'll be at Kettler.
or maybe he was just testing the new WaPo beat reporter to see how far he could go? (probably more along the lines of what you’re thinking, though..)
by Natty Bumppo on Oct 13, 2010 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions
One or the other. Whatever it was, I’d call bullshit on “the equipment people put the wrong jerseys out” – as if they haven’t laid out red jerseys for 8-19-22 on a daily basis for the last year.
Also, way to throw Smitty and Brock under the bus, Bruce, geez :P
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mmmm…my fantasy team, starring brooks laich, is quite pleased. and since regular season means [franschetti], i guess i’m not too concerned from a non-fantasy standpoint either.
by Natty Bumppo on Oct 13, 2010 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions
If the Caps win with this lineup, does this mean Fleischmann and Ovechkin have to do that little jump-bump thing after the game? Or Backstrom and Semin?
If you've read this far...seek help.
by ThePeerless on Oct 13, 2010 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Hendricks and Chimera.
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If Sloan jumps in the air and nobody is there to bump with him. . .
. . . does he make a sound? What about when he falls to the ice?
'Cause the end of what it was is what it is right now...
I’ve been to a couple preseason games and the season opener, and I didn’t notice Nicky and Ovie doing their jump-bump move yet. Although I could of missed it.
Excited!
I’m going to my first Caps game tonight! My first hockey game ever, actually- except for seeing a friend’s club game at McGill once
by discuit on Oct 13, 2010 11:58 AM EDT reply actions 5 recs
Congrats! Have a great time.
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by Carl Putnam on Oct 13, 2010 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Congrats! Should be a good show. Caps & Islanders have had some very good battles the last two years.
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awesome! report back to us about your experience.
by Natty Bumppo on Oct 13, 2010 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Have fun! I think there will be quite a few goals to enjoy this evening.
And McGill….so awesome. Damnit ,i miss Montreal.
If you want to survive out here, you've got to know where your towel is.
by ns on Oct 13, 2010 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Hjalmarsson/Pominville
PD makes an interesting point about the 2-game suspension of Hjalmarsson: it ends precisely in time for him to take the ice against…the Buffalo Sabres.
He goes on to speculate about the potential for frontier justice in the game.
I expect that one of the Sabres grind guys will fight Hjalmarsson, who will not duck the engagement. But I don’t expect that there will be any especially vicious retribution, e.g., a similar hit or a stick-foul type of retribution. Unless he dodges the fight, in which case all bets are off.
Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?
While we’re on this subject, I really liked Friedman’s column on Miller’s rant.
The quote by Hjalmarsson regarding the Ovechkin-on-Campbell hit is particularly telling.
by Wheeler on Oct 13, 2010 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Great piece.
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by Carl Putnam on Oct 13, 2010 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Really good read
"Do you see my fist? It was fists like these that built quaint Canadian cities out of the harsh Canadian wilderness, etc. etc."
Not in Seattle anymore.
by SeattleCapsFan on Oct 13, 2010 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Sorry but I don’t see the comparison between Ovi’s hit and Hjalmarsson’s.
Campbell knew Ovi was behind him the whole time, and Ovi pushed Campbell who toe-picked at the goal line and crashed into the boards (still boarding and a Major in my eyes btw).
Hjalmarsson checked the hell out of his man, who was flat against the boards and never knew it coming. Additionally, Hjalmarsson stayed behind Pominville and skated thru him. A crushing check with little to no chance of injury was totally possible there. Hjalmarsson just chose not to worry about anything other than hitting shoulder to shoulder. And to me, that’s not enough responsible concern for your opponent’s safety.
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I don’t know. Campbell was away from the boards, while Pominville was standing next to it — not flat against it. It’s more dangerous to check a guy into the boards that is standing 2 or 3 feet away than someone who is already next to it.
Both were not very smart plays on the parts of Hjalmarsson and Ovechkin, but I think Ovechkin’s is a hit that usually does more damage.
Without Campbell toe-picking, there is no damage. He would have gone into the boards shoulder first and skated away.
Never underrate the power of the hissy-cow.
I agree. I just think it was stupid to push him at the goal line. At that speed, w/ Ovi’s weight and power. Anybody would go flying. They just don’t normally get injured, merely embarrassed.
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There are seriously like two weeks’ worth of threads covering this topic ad nauseum. Could we not repeat them? Please?
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by D'ohboy on Oct 13, 2010 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Absolutely. Sorry. I wasn’t a member back then but the tedium is obvious when I think about it.
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A fairly accurate summary of the discussion.
"Do you see my fist? It was fists like these that built quaint Canadian cities out of the harsh Canadian wilderness, etc. etc."
Not in Seattle anymore.
by SeattleCapsFan on Oct 13, 2010 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Let’s not get into this again. You can get seriously injured even when you go into the boards with your shoulder (f = ma, and Campbell has high m and a anyway you cut it).
by red army line on Oct 14, 2010 5:43 AM EDT up reply actions
I love how much the Black Hawks fans were crying about Ovechkin, yet they turn around and don’t seem to have much of an issue with Hjalmarsson or Hossa laying people the hell out in similar fashion.
Human existence being an hallucination containing in itself the secondary hallucinations of day and night (the latter an insanitary condition of the atmosphere due to accretions of black air) it ill becomes any man of sense to be concerned at the illusory approach of the supreme hallucination known as death.
Does that really surprise anyone?
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by jordanDC on Oct 13, 2010 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Look what happened when Boudreau called AO “reckless” after the Gleason hit. The media jumped on it to the tune of “if even his OWN COACH is saying it, it must be REALLY BAD”, which whipped up the “dirty AO” meme to greater stridency. What the media pushes, the League reacts to, unfortunately.
There is no incentive to frank and objective commentary in this instance.
Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?
Which would be a totally appropriate observation if we were discussing coach objectivity, instead of fan objectivity.
I have CapsFan75’d this thread, and I apologize.
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by fat_daddyo on Oct 13, 2010 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
It isn’t surprising, I just love it. The ironing is delicious.
Human existence being an hallucination containing in itself the secondary hallucinations of day and night (the latter an insanitary condition of the atmosphere due to accretions of black air) it ill becomes any man of sense to be concerned at the illusory approach of the supreme hallucination known as death.
Quenneville might be the whiniest coach out there. Breathe on one of his guys and he’s crying foul.
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I’ll take your word for it. I can’t remember the last time I watched an NBA game.
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by ThePeerless on Oct 13, 2010 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Props for the George Thorogood and the Delaware Destroyers reference.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Oct 13, 2010 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions
I didn’t think so, truthfully. He wasn’t charging, he didn’t elbow him, he didn’t drive his head into the boards, etc. It was light intereference, it was a blindside, and it was definitely boarding, but I thought it was bad luck more than vitriol. If Pominville didn’t get hurt, it wouldn’t have been a suspension, probably.
by DrinkingPartner on Oct 13, 2010 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions
This sounds familiar…
"Do you see my fist? It was fists like these that built quaint Canadian cities out of the harsh Canadian wilderness, etc. etc."
Not in Seattle anymore.
by SeattleCapsFan on Oct 13, 2010 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Pretty sure it was my defense of Ovie last year :-P.
by DrinkingPartner on Oct 13, 2010 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions
I think you’re right about the injury being a reason for the suspension. If there had been no injury, likely it would have just been the major/game misconduct.
Never underrate the power of the hissy-cow.
I doubt it would’ve been a game. Pominville gets up and skates away, it’s a 2 minute boarding call.
by DrinkingPartner on Oct 13, 2010 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions
That’s just it, though. It SHOULD be a 5 minute major (suspension, i dunno, but I’m totally fine w/ it). If you make sure the guy can’t see you coming by staying in his blind spot and skating at him full speed and then you crush him, not hurting him is your responsibility.
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Hjalmarsson wasn’t going full speed. It was boarding and Pominville got wrecked because of the blindside aspect.
by DrinkingPartner on Oct 13, 2010 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes. If the league is serious about cutting down on these hits, you have to suspend here (and I think it’s appreciably worse than the Ovie-Campbell hit, FWIW). I think 2 games is probably just below what it deserves, but having Hjalmarsson fight in the rematch will probably help everyone move on.
And it’s early in the season — it’s the “send a clear signal” time of year
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by Gould Old Days on Oct 13, 2010 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Just checked hockey fights and Hjalmarsson only has 2 fights, one in the NHL which he lost to Backes, and one in the AHL, so he will fight. I may take a peep at the Buffalo-Chicago game just to see what happens.
by BradleyFightingVehicle on Oct 13, 2010 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Unless Patrick Kaleta’s in the game; likely as not to see a dirty hit out of that asshole.
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by Knee high to a duck on Oct 13, 2010 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Expectations for the game tonight?
My hopes are not high, to tell you the truth. The Isle have played the Caps very close the past couple of years, and the Isle have shown a willingness to outwork the Caps. The Caps, in turn, have shown a willingness to be outworked.
I expect the Caps to be flat and largely disinterested.
I also think this is OK. After hearing for 6 months that the regular season means bubkes, I don’t think we can expect a focused effort for mid-week game in October against the likes of the Isle. As long as they show up in the spring, that is.
Note: I know you can’t turn it on like a faucet. I hope the Caps will be focused and playing hard during the stretch run, and if they’re not I’ll be annoyed. But here and now…I can give them a mulligan for a bad game.
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I think this is a good night for Nicky to break out of the summer doldrums. It’s cool and clear outside and it finally feels like hockey.
by DrinkingPartner on Oct 13, 2010 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions
I expect the Caps to be flat and largely disinterested.
Actually, I’m expecting the opposite. They had their flat game against the Sens. I’m expecting a much louder crowd and a more into it team tonight.
Caps better be ready to play. The work ethic of this Islanders’ team was really impressive last season.
The ice will show everything.
Even if they’re not, with the firepower at their disposal, a couple of good bounces and they can have a hammerlock on the game. You know, what happened in the NJD game.
So they don’t have to give their best effort to win it. They know it, too.
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I don’t necessarily know if they were flat against Ottawa or Ottawa was just playing tough. Maybe the puck possession was so skewed because of how poorly the Capitals played but it seemed like Ottawa was just winning whatever fight for the puck they were involved in.
Human existence being an hallucination containing in itself the secondary hallucinations of day and night (the latter an insanitary condition of the atmosphere due to accretions of black air) it ill becomes any man of sense to be concerned at the illusory approach of the supreme hallucination known as death.
Ottawa was playing just as sloppy as the Caps, which is how we managed to eek out the W.
"Do you see my fist? It was fists like these that built quaint Canadian cities out of the harsh Canadian wilderness, etc. etc."
Not in Seattle anymore.
by SeattleCapsFan on Oct 13, 2010 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Plus we have Ovie, that helps.
by BradleyFightingVehicle on Oct 13, 2010 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Suppose I have some awfully low expectations of Ottawa then, they certainly looked to be playing pretty well. Well, at least they have the Gooch.
Human existence being an hallucination containing in itself the secondary hallucinations of day and night (the latter an insanitary condition of the atmosphere due to accretions of black air) it ill becomes any man of sense to be concerned at the illusory approach of the supreme hallucination known as death.
Ottawa played a pretty good game, as evidenced by taking the game to OT. They capitalized well on Caps’ mistakes and kept the top line off the scoreboard in regulation. They were actually fairly well pleased with how they played and glad to get even one Bettman point from their visit to DC.
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I thought they capitalized on our mistakes pretty well, but I don’t think they necessarily played a “pretty good” game. Maybe I just expected more from them?
"Do you see my fist? It was fists like these that built quaint Canadian cities out of the harsh Canadian wilderness, etc. etc."
Not in Seattle anymore.
by SeattleCapsFan on Oct 13, 2010 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions
He’s no Volchenkov.
Speaking of which, anyone else notice how we blew up against the Dev’s not too long after Backstrom took Volchenkov out? I think Volchenkov, more than anyone else, was responsible for Ottawa’s success against us last year.
by BradleyFightingVehicle on Oct 13, 2010 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Phillips is still pretty good, but do you think he’ll be as good against the Caps, the first line in particular, as he was last year with Volchenkov on the other side of his pairing?
I always thought Volchenkov played Ovie particularly tough, and I don’t think it was a coincidence that 6 of our 7 goals against the Devils came with Volchenkov in the locker room.
by BradleyFightingVehicle on Oct 13, 2010 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Per Kevin Allen at U.S.A. Today,
Scouts from 16 teams were sitting down the row from me at the Colorado vs. Detroit game Tuesday. The Avalanche would like to make a deal, presumably to move a defenseman,
Likely targets to be moved? Scott Hannan and John-Michael Liles. Hannan is on the last year of his deal, and he’s got a 4.5 mil. cap hit. He’s also been rumored as heading to the Caps before. Liles is an OK offensive D-man (with some defensive issues) and has two more years left on his deal at a 4.2 mil cap hit.
What do they need? Forwards. Either a left-winger who can play in a top-six role (particularly with Peter Mueller out). Maybe a decent fourth-line center (hey, don’t the Caps have an extra one of those? Who played NCAA hockey, which the Avs management loves?).
Hannan-for-Steckel might make a lot of sense. Thoughts?
Not at 4.5 million.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Oct 13, 2010 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions
On an expiring deal I could live with Hannan, but I’d rather wait until later in the year when he eats less of our cap.
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Yeah I agree, but now? I wouldn’t like it, especially since we already have a million defensemen on the depth chart.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Oct 13, 2010 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Well…really, we only have 6. And Erskine and Sloan. I’d gladly take Hannan and push Sloan out. There’s no one in Hershey right now capable of pushing him out, the D depth chart is pretty shallow imo.
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Do you want a guy with a 4.5 million dollar cap hit that only plays 5/6 minutes? I don’t.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Oct 13, 2010 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions
No, not really. But as an option at the deadline (or at least not in October) it’s not so bad, especially considering he’s in the last year of his deal. And he’s definitely better (and cheaper) than Souray – send some salary the other way and stick him on the Caps’ blue line, you’ve got a formidable 6 D.
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Yeah…that was my point. At the deadline, it wouldn’t matter, but it’s too quick to pull the trigger on that deal right now.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Oct 13, 2010 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Especially at that price.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Oct 13, 2010 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions
But part of the thing is that the Avs HAVE to take some salary back.
I think they’re frustrated in part because they’ve got several young D prospects they wish were playing in the NHL right now.
'Cause the end of what it was is what it is right now...
I hear we’ve got a veteran forward on loan to Rochester with a big contract, maybe adding him to the deal will help
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Hannan for Steckel is a pipe dream, on both ends.
The Avs need to take some salary back, otherwise they’ll be below the Cap ceiling.
There’s no way the Caps pick up Liles – he’s a poor man’s Mike Green, except he’s worse defensively and not actually very cheap.
I’d be interested in Hannan as a 5/6 guy with experience, but only provided we could ship some money back the other way.
'Cause the end of what it was is what it is right now...
Well, straight up. What happens if you throw Fleischmann into that? Not saying Hannan for Fleischmann and Steckel straight up necessarily works, but what does Colorado’s farm look like?
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This is just problematic from several perspectives.
The Avs might want to move Hannan, but they can’t just dump his salary or else they’ll go below the cap floor.
I doubt they’d be interested in Laich or Flash, since they’re both UFAs next year.
The best fit for both teams would be something like the following:
Hannan + Galiardi for Steckel and Fehr
The Avs won’t want to lose O’Reilly and I’m not sure the Caps want to lose Fehr, but it would improve Colorado’s depth at wing and Washington’s depth at Center.
'Cause the end of what it was is what it is right now...
O’Reilly or Galiardi?
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I’d prefer to get back Galiardi in this hypothetical.
I think he’d be a better #2C than Flash.
'Cause the end of what it was is what it is right now...
I agree it’s a stretch.
If the Avs need a top-six wing who can play on the left, Brooks Laich is the forward we should be talking about here.
Tomas Fleischmann fits that, actually and is some salary for the Avs to take back.
Question is, though – could Fleischmann be better used as trade bait later in the season for something else that might come available?
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If we trade Flash now we’re really in a whole at 2C.
by BradleyFightingVehicle on Oct 13, 2010 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Heh. About half of caps Nation would promptly scream for Matty Perreault.
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And he’d be the logical guy to take over that spot. But I’m not sure I see him as on the same level as Flash right now. Eventually yes, right now? Not quite.
Of course the counter argument would be, we get a greater upgrade in Defense from Hannan over Erskine/Sloan, than we do a downgrade in Offense from Flash to MP. So I suppose I could go either way on this one.
by BradleyFightingVehicle on Oct 13, 2010 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions
I tend to agree that now isn’t the right time to pull the trigger on a trade like that. All I’m pointing out is that it isn’t immediately impossible.
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With this we are in perfect agreement.
by BradleyFightingVehicle on Oct 13, 2010 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Club Scarlett on line three for you.
Stecks and Sloaner and we’ll throw in Nyls so they can meet the cap floor for Hannon.
Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...
by dcsportsfan1 on Oct 13, 2010 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions
oh no…is all this john-michael liles fantasy goodness simply to build his trade value?
i agree with d’ohboy above about liles and the caps, though. the logjam in colorado is with puck-moving and power play defensemen.
by Natty Bumppo on Oct 13, 2010 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions
cap experts, what the cap floor this year? Aren’t the Avs just barely clear of it? If they trade a 4.5 mil cap hit, how much salary are they going to need to take back?
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The floor’s $43.4M; according to Cap Geek, the Avs are at about $44.5, counting bonuses, so they’d need to take back about $3.4-5M
what happens if those bonuses aren’t met at the end of the season and they end up below $43.4M? Any consequences?
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must be that they get extra cap room next year
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by Elliotte on Oct 13, 2010 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
The CBA doesn’t actually seem to say. I guess that at the end of the season, it doesn’t matter as they calculate the actual Players’ Share. Bonuses don’t get counted as they become unobtainable, but I’m guessing that there isn’t enough money tied up in those kind of bonuses.
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Far too early to be talking about the Avs looking to deal for a defenseman.
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Again, not even a week into the season.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Oct 13, 2010 2:19 PM EDT reply actions
2:19
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Hannan has one year left on his deal, can’t see teams lining up for him and his cap hit, though.
2:19
Justin Bourne:
Hannan also doesn’t care, which hurts his value. He just wants his paycheck.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Oct 13, 2010 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, saying a guy doesn’t care is a pretty huge shot. I don’t know if it’s true or not, but if so I don’t want any part of him.
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I thought that too. Bourne would certainly know better than most journalists would.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Oct 13, 2010 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions
or be more willing to openly express it than most journalists would.
by Natty Bumppo on Oct 13, 2010 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions
2:22
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Malkin to the Avs for Scott Hannan
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by Rather Bengt on Oct 13, 2010 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
No chance in holy hell that would ever happen, but if it did, it would be hilarious that some anonymous prankster on PD called it.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Oct 13, 2010 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions
sorry for double posting
have a pretty big roll in my account, so its fine. The Caps never lose more than 3 in a row, so if they lose, I just triple up each game and recover my losses next time they win
I’d float a couple on the under for S&G’s sake.
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by Bald Pollack on Oct 13, 2010 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions
I wonder how far I could go betting that Anaheim will go to the penalty box first in every game…
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I joined the caps fantasy text league… if you text while in the caps center they put you on the caps text list… they started a fantasy text league… you pick an offense and defense guy for the upcoming game and get points as they score assist and defend … you can only use a person once a week I started 19 and 52 last game .. I cant use them for a week …
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by TheFuryUnleashed on Oct 13, 2010 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions
phil…. maybe to you it’s worthless … but to me its fun … so…
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my Lineup is set … 22 27
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cant … I used 8 and 74 opening night
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