Monday Caps Clips: Backstrom, Discipline and More
by J.P. on Jan 11, 2010 7:04 AM EST
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- Nicklas Backstrom gets some well-deserved recognition. [USA Today]
- Don't look now, but the Caps have actually become a very disciplined team, with Shaone Morrisonn among those leading the way. [WaPo]
- John Carlson/Team USA party pics... at least the ones his mother could/would/should see. [OFB]
- Trip-to-the-owners'-box stories never get old. [RMNB]
- Interesting note from Boston Globe über-journo Kevin Paul Dupont, noting that the Bruins are so desperate for offense they might be interested in acquiring... well, see for yourself. [@GlobeKPD]
- I thought it was un-Canadian to complain about the weather. [@EricFehr16]
- As bad as this year's Caps' penalty kill has been at times, it's come a long way, baby. [BtN]
- Seven years ago tonight, Jaromir Jagr had a hat trick and added four assists in a 12-2 rout of Florida, tying Dino Ciccarelli's franchise mark for points in a game. (Good Jagr memories are few and far between, but this is definitely one.)
- Seven years prior to that, per the HHoF, "Washington's Michal Pivonka scored a career-high six points (2 goals & 4 assists), and Peter Bondra had his 4th career hat trick and two assists as the Capitals won 6-1 over the visiting Ottawa Senators."
- Recapping the Bears' weekend. [RtR]
- Fallout from the KHL mega-brawl that involved at least four former Caps. [Puck Daddy]
- Finally, happy 45th birthday to Tim Bergland.
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Nice stuff in the WaPo piece, though to be fair the Caps were a fairly discliplined bunch under interim coach Boudreau (7th fewer minors taken in ’06-07).
"I must be hallucinating. What's a good thing for a hangover?"
"Drinking heavily the night before."
FWIW, I had to do a little fact-checking on this paragraph:
“Last season’s biggest offenders — Alex Ovechkin, Alexander Semin, Mike Green and Shaone Morrisonn — are all spending less time in the penalty box this season. But it’s Morrisonn who has made the greatest strides. The 27-year-old defenseman was assessed 30 minor penalties in 72 games last season; this season he has been whistled for seven minor penalties in 34 contests.”
Turns out it’s mostly correct, at least with regards to 5-on-5 play.
Each of those guys has, in fact, lowered his PTAKE/60 from last season to this one, but of the four guys listed, Green has “made the greatest strides” by far, cutting his PTAKE/60 by around 43% (Mo and AO down 17%, Semin down 13%).
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by J.P. on Jan 11, 2010 7:33 AM EST up reply actions 7 recs
That type of early morning work deserves a rec.
"I must be hallucinating. What's a good thing for a hangover?"
"Drinking heavily the night before."
by Bald Pollack on Jan 11, 2010 7:39 AM EST up reply actions
Indeed. I love the smell of stat crunching in the morning.
"It's like, how much more black could this be? And the answer is none. None more black."
by Laich It Or Lump It on Jan 11, 2010 8:04 AM EST up reply actions
I guess TEB didn’t “over sixty” it since he left out John Erskine. He has stayed the course at a steady 1.4 PTake/60.
"It's like, how much more black could this be? And the answer is none. None more black."
by Laich It Or Lump It on Jan 11, 2010 8:30 AM EST up reply actions
Someday us stat-heads will have our time in the sun.
"It's like, how much more black could this be? And the answer is none. None more black."
by Laich It Or Lump It on Jan 11, 2010 8:40 AM EST up reply actions
One could argue that the traffic this site generates is probably pretty close when compared to TEB’s Insider. And everyone needs to remember that Tarik isn’t paid to be a stat head…he’s paid to be a beat writer. Once you realize that his role is to fall somewhere in between OFB and this site…well I feel better about his material after making the realization.
Pretty easy to fall into the space between this site and OFB. It’s like a gorge.
My ability to post is only surpassed by my ability to pinch pennies.
Trust me, I’m with you. I’ve made peace with both OFB and Tarik over their respective roles for a while now.
"It's like, how much more black could this be? And the answer is none. None more black."
by Laich It Or Lump It on Jan 11, 2010 11:16 AM EST up reply actions
Nicky has a very cool website
http://www.backstrom19.com/2/en-us/nicklas-backstrom/nicklas-backstrom.php
Nice site — he occasionally comments in his guestbook,, but there is an audio that comes on automatically at the welcome page
Left for there a monf or two ago.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Jan 11, 2010 7:56 AM EST up reply actions
The RtR story has a neat link to the Post article from when Ted bought the team. The sidebar is good for some chuckles.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/sports/capitals/longterm/1999/sale/leonsis14.htm
"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."
…
The same “hottest ticket in town” expression has been used as motivation around the Capitals organization for years, with varying success. Many empty seats greeted the Capitals this season as they struggled on the ice, missing the playoffs entirely, but even last season, when the team made a successful playoff run, MCI Center was often littered with fans wearing opponents’ jerseys.
Whether all the ideas Leonsis and Ledecky have can improve the situation remains to be seen, but if they can gain NHL approval next month they intend to spend a long time watching their plans develop.
…
Wow, a little over ten years ago, and it’s amazing that (even though it was a little slow and took a second effort to get the ball rolling), it seems Leonsis really has done exactly what I set out to do.
"I am ready for his provocations"
by PaintDrinkingPete on Jan 11, 2010 12:23 PM EST up reply actions
What surprised me in that article was that the team was looking for a new practice facility before Ted bought the team. I figured that was his doing.
"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."
Whatever happened to Jonathan Ledecky? Did he get bought out?
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Jan 11, 2010 1:35 PM EST up reply actions
The annoying little kid in Jerry Maguire? I didn’t know he played hockey.
by Cluster on Jan 11, 2010 3:41 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Jaromir Jagr had a hat trick and added four assists in a 12-2 rout of Florida,
And all this Ya-Ya Wonderfulness occured, I believe, in just the first two periods, as he basically stopped playing after two. Bondra, OTOH, kept plugging away. This is a game tape that I have watched in Augusts. It’s a tonic.
He basically stopped playing when he got to town.
But yeah, he sat out most of the third, but I’m not sure I blame him as you seem to be doing. Was it not a coach’s decision?
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I enjoyed that 10-2 pasting of the Bruins a few years ago, even if it did lead to Don Cherry bitching “THE HOCKEY GODS WILL GET YOU” for the Caps “running up the score”.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Jan 11, 2010 8:15 AM EST up reply actions
He basically stopped playing when he got to town.
True as true can be. 24 carat true
I can’t blame him at all. (I blame him for allotta stuff, but not for that.) There appears to be an unwritten rule about not stomping the defenseless in to a paste. Which I can sympathize with. Ya-ya + coach were hewing to the code. Bondra, not so much.
I have to ask this…
Before we obtained Jagr some years ago, when he was with the Pens… I HATE this guy with a passion. Is it just me, or did anyone else share this feeling back then?
Oh, it’s not just you. Hated him before he was a Cap, was excited when the Caps got him just because he was so good in Pitt (after all, we root for laundry). Turned on him long after he turned on the Caps, but while he still played in DC. After the way he whined his way to New York, I hated him more than ever.
Now? Honestly, it’s a bit of a disgrace that a player as historically great as him is having to play out in the wild, wild KHL with the recent brawl and whatnot. IMO, it speaks to how many bridges he burned in the NHL in his career that he’s ended up there. Fitting, if you ask me, after what he did to the Caps and Ted.
I always assumed most caps fans hated Jagr as much as I did back then so (forgive me if this discussion has taken place before) I gotta say I was confused as to why GMGM signed Jagr back then. I know his job is to get the best team together but at what cost? He had to have known the fans’ general feelings towards Jagr. Is having a great team worth alienating the fans?
Maybe I’m assuming too much. Someone put me in my place if I need some schooling.
Winning cures all, and he was pretty much the best player in hockey at the time
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Jan 11, 2010 10:36 AM EST up reply actions
I might add it was the owner who pushed for the trade. I actually could stand Jags until he came to DC and decided not to expend effort most nights. In the end, he may have actually been the best thing to happen to the franchise.
A man gotta have a code
by Carl Putnam on Jan 11, 2010 10:38 AM EST up reply actions
Last sentence goes way too far. On the list of “best thing to happen to the franchise” there is one obvious number 1, and several other ones higher than Jagr coming to DC. I don’t care if Jagr quitting opened the door for the rebuild, he gets ZERO credit for that.
Now let's say you and I go toe to toe on bird law and see who comes out the victor.
Probably. Still not an excuse.
Now let's say you and I go toe to toe on bird law and see who comes out the victor.
Obviously I was being over the top to make my point. However, I don’t think it was too far off from at least being top 10. Reason – It showed a new sports owner that you just can’t buy talent and expect to win. You’ve got a build a franchise. Ted has admitted that the Jagr disaster taught him a lot. The rebuild continues to pay off with moments almost nightly that make me smile from ear to ear.
A man gotta have a code
I was confused as to why GMGM signed Jagr back then. I know his job is to get the best team together but at what cost?
In short, when Jagr arrived, he had one year left on his contract and would become a UFA after it ened. Nobody around the league, in the media, and few in D.C. believed that the Caps would be able to sign him to a deal. Many folks were saying, Jagr’s gone after the one season.
It may have been more Ted and GMGM but the deal was offered and signed before the season even started to prove the naysayers wrong.
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When I got into hockey around 1993 I was a hardcore caps fan. I think my feeling towards the caps cooled around 1997-1998 and I didn’t really get back into them until about 2005.
For the life of me I can’t remember what it was that made me sort of fade away from the game. I started college in the fall of 97… Those days were a blur but I’d like to think I was too busy to keep up with the games.. but I dunno… I remember being pissed when Jagr was signed.. maybe that had something to do with it.
Just for reference…
Jagr didn’t come until 2001.
1997-1998 was the year the Caps ended up in the SCF.
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You make a good point. Having a great time can be worth alienating the fans/forcing them to come around on a certain player, IMO. I hated Jagr, but I certainly gave him a chance and was excited when he came to DC. Had he worked hard and given max effort as a Cap, even if he left after one year, I would have ended up liking him more (as a Cowboys fan, I had a similar experience with T.O., and ended up liking him more in the end because he worked hard). That’s not what happened with Jagr. I don’t even have this animosity from the trade, since he had no control over that. What upsets me is him signing the extension even though he didn’t really want to be a Cap and then basically forcing a trade to NYR because he’s such a diva.
Teams take a big risk when they make moves like that. When they don’t work out, and they usually don’t, it ends up being a mistake in the long run. Winning cures all, but losing with bad chemistry ruins everything.
Thinking about the Jagr trade seems me want to lean more towards Neidermeyer if we make any trades this year.
As far as recent “big name trades” go from the past few years, Hossa, Healey, and Gaborik have done well… but overall in the past decade it seems like a huge gamble when teams sign some big names and except big numbers (cough cough Jage/Nylander).
Maybe I’m just talking out of my ass but I feel like two of the best acquisitions of “big name players” this past decade have been stars that were past their primes: Guerin to the Pens and Feds to the Caps. I don’t think either players was really expected to put up a lot of goals/assists, but their leadership and guidance made them more valuable than any statistic can really show.
First, Gaborik was a UFA acquisition, not a trade. Minor point, I know.
Second, Scott Niedermayer to ANA was a bigger “big name player acquisition” than Guerin or Feds. Hell, you could even put ANA’s acquisition of Pronger higher on that list than Guerin or Feds.
Now let's say you and I go toe to toe on bird law and see who comes out the victor.
Well.. I’m just speakin’ generally, and I was referring to our (distant) possibility of getting Nider, not Anaheim’s.
Well.. I’m just speakin’ generally, and I was referring to our (distant) possibility of getting Nider, not Anaheim’s.Do you think the Pens would have won the Cup last year without Guerin? Would they have made it to the finals the year before without him?
Well.. I’m just speakin’ generally, and I was referring to our (distant) possibility of getting Nider, not Anaheim’s.Do you think the Pens would have won the Cup last year without Guerin? Would they have made it to the finals the year before without him?Regardless though… my point really is that it seems (at least in IMO which isn’t worth much) when a team blows loads of money on a superstar in the peak of their career, it seems to be big time hit or big time miss… whereas the teams seem to consistently get more out of the older players they sign for less and who know they won’t get many years out of the player.
Well the Pens went to the SC the year before they got Guerin. It’s not like he had to dramatically change a team. It’s always hit or miss, so doing it for less money/compensation is generally better. I’m just disputing your assertion that Feds and Guerin were the biggest recent acquisitions.
Now let's say you and I go toe to toe on bird law and see who comes out the victor.
Well the Pens went to the SC the year before they got Guerin
Ahhh thats right. I got the old farts confused.
And well.. I didn’t say they were the biggest recent acquisitions… just trying to back up my point that it seems the old farts (say.. 36 or older) are a safer bet than going for a higher paid SUPAH_STAH!
To be fair though I guess its like comparing apples to oranges at times.. depends on the team. The Pens probably needed a little more experience as did we when we got Feds so I’m sure they were more effective on their new respective teams than if they had been acquired by someone else.
Why is it a disgrace if he brought it on himself? (And I’d remind you there were still NHL teams that wanted him, just not at the price he wanted.)
Now let's say you and I go toe to toe on bird law and see who comes out the victor.
Fair point. It’s not injustice or tragedy, that’s for sure. Just kind of sad that one of the all-time greats is getting punched in the face by Darcy Verot when his skillset should have him in the best league in the world (not that I have a problem in general with him getting punched in the face). You’re right, though, not the right word. And money talks.
It’s a shame that he didn’t get punched more squarely in the face, and on HD in America.
Now let's say you and I go toe to toe on bird law and see who comes out the victor.
by Rob Parker on Jan 11, 2010 4:51 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
I certianly do not like Jagr. Never did never will. I was disappointed when the Caps picked him up. So much so, that I had stopped following the team on a daily basis for a few years till he was gone. Must have been all those hard playoff loses to the Pens over the years.
That was the first game I took my brother to see. Now he gets disappointed whenever we don’t score 12, get a hat trick, and have five fights in a game.
by Gin and Tonic on Jan 11, 2010 9:54 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Things that make you go hmmm....
In two weeks, the Manitoba Moose will come to the Giant Center in Hershey for a two-game series. The Moose (more specifically, the Moose coaches) have been known to complain about the Bears’ faithful in the past, and have recently started up again in Winnipeg newspapers. Should be interesting…
Oh really? I might have to find a way to wander up to Hershey that weekend.
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Maybe they need to bring puckhead guy back from St. Louis again.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Jan 11, 2010 8:21 AM EST up reply actions
I don’t know if they can, but oh man was that magnificent last spring when they did. One would think the coaches would have learned from the last time they spouted their mouths off.
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I may have to get up there for that game. Stupid Moose.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Jan 11, 2010 8:29 AM EST up reply actions
No, they are the Woose. Didn’t you see the signs in the stands during game 6 at the MTS Centre?
(A bunch of girls were holding up letters intended to spell “Moose”, but the first girl in the line had her sign upside down.)
What happened to the thread about going to Hershey in FanPosts? I think we should try to go the weekend Manitoba comes out.
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If the wife says its okay, i’m getting tix today.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Jan 11, 2010 8:44 AM EST up reply actions
I was up there for the Calder finals against Hamilton a couple of years ago and for last June’s Calder final against Manitoba. Both times I sat either right behind or right next to the opposition bench. I have to say, the Hershey fans can be pretty enthusiastic about letting the other team have it from right behind the bench.
If you've read this far...seek help.
but have Hershey fans ever caused the opposing team to write a crybaby letter to the league about how mean they are?
Actually, I’d love to take in a playoff game in Hershey. Sounds like a ton of fun.
USA beat Canada because more kids in the US are playing hockey and the USA hockey system is producing better hockey players to compete with the Canadian youth hockey system, not because Ray Bourque got his fuck on in Boston.
Oh, it is!
It totally is. We had a blast last year, watching the playoffs.
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by IRockTheRed on Jan 11, 2010 10:12 AM EST up reply actions
Can anybody figure out why the KHL folks are overreacting that way???
I’m mean, don’t they know that’s “real hockey” and “how the game is supposed to be played”???
Does anybody have the video of that? I’ll bet anything that the fans were cheering widly during the whole thing and not a single person was sitting in their seat…
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“Eddie Shore?”
“Piss on Eddie Shore!”
“Old-time hockey?”
“Piss on old-time hockey!”
"It's like, how much more black could this be? And the answer is none. None more black."
by Laich It Or Lump It on Jan 11, 2010 8:58 AM EST up reply actions
Strother Martin FTW.
"I must be hallucinating. What's a good thing for a hangover?"
"Drinking heavily the night before."
by Bald Pollack on Jan 11, 2010 9:02 AM EST up reply actions
Best part of that movie.
“You see this quarter? It used to be a nickel!”
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Jan 11, 2010 9:05 AM EST up reply actions
“But Dave’s out. Who’s gonna take his place?”
“Is the answer Jesus?”
My personal favorite.
"It's like, how much more black could this be? And the answer is none. None more black."
by Laich It Or Lump It on Jan 11, 2010 9:08 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
“So I ask him, who own the Chiefs?”
“And what did he say?”
“Ownnssssssss…”
Priceless stuff…it’s just one after another…
Let's go Caps!
by MikeL-Pivonka on Jan 11, 2010 9:35 AM EST up reply actions
“Reg, Reg, that reminds me. I was coachin’ in Omaha in 1948 and Eddie Shore sends me this guy who was a terrible masturbator, you know, couldn’t control himself. Why, he would get deliberate penalties so he could get over in the penalty box all by himself and damned if he wouldn’t… you know… "
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Jan 11, 2010 9:39 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
From another Strother Martin film:
“You get a goddamn job before sundown, or we’re sending you off to military school, with that goddamn…Finkelstein shit kid! Son of a bitch!”
"I must be hallucinating. What's a good thing for a hangover?"
"Drinking heavily the night before."
by Bald Pollack on Jan 11, 2010 9:43 AM EST up reply actions
He was great in Cool Hand Luke as well.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Jan 11, 2010 9:52 AM EST up reply actions
From the Q&A link in the Bäckström article.
Have your Capitals teammates (including several Olympians) started preparing you for what to expect, and have they told you they’re coming after you?
Playing against them is going to be fun, but everybody’s going to hunt everybody. It’s going to be fun.
Yeah, don’t miss clicking on the Backstrom Q&A (or just go there using this link). Bonus goodies over there. Good stuff.
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Jan 11, 2010 9:10 AM EST up reply actions
Sugden always followed the code when he was with Hershey/the Caps. Looks like another former Cap, Darcy Verot, was more of the problem in the KHL that night.
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Jan 11, 2010 9:16 AM EST up reply actions
And actually, as I recall it, Sugden left on his own; he wasn’t “gotten rid of” by the Caps. He realized he wasn’t going to break into the NHL, and went to the KHL instead.
Did not realize Verot was a former Cap… woof. Lots of them involved in that fracas!
If anyone’s interested, I did break down who got handed what off the game summary, over on my LJ (irockthered.livejournal.com). Looks like a couple of guys were sent to the sin bin, got back out without permission, and then got sent off for good. The whole thing took under 10 seconds of actual clock time. Crazy stuff!
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by IRockTheRed on Jan 11, 2010 10:15 AM EST up reply actions
And actually, as I recall it, Sugden left on his own; he wasn’t "gotten rid of" by the Caps. He realized he wasn’t going to break into the NHL, and went to the KHL instead.
KHL gave him a pretty hefty salary, too…
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Jan 11, 2010 10:38 AM EST up reply actions
Funny, I could’ve sworn there was a game tonight.
by DrinkingPartner on Jan 11, 2010 9:16 AM EST reply actions
Linking to Twitter feeds.
Twitter’s blocked where I work, JP :( You’re a tease.
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@GlobeKPD
B’s dead in water with this offense. Might have to consider swap with Wash, Ference for ex-B Nylander (18G’s/16pts) in AHL.
@EricFehr16
Hanging out in Tampa, I wish it was a little warmer!
Not so fast. He’s a UFA after this season. I’d do that deal just to get rid of Nyles contract next year.
A man gotta have a code
by Carl Putnam on Jan 11, 2010 10:50 AM EST up reply actions
I think I read that he’s injured at the moment, too. So it theoretically works this way — save real dollars on the Nylander contract and pick up a spare part with an expiring contract that doesn’t count against the salary cap for a while, although it would eventually.
Still probably not worth the bother, but what do I know?
"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."
Ference is better than at least Erskine, Potsy, Shamo, ( and Sloan… did it need mentioning?). I’d take him in a heartbeat, and it means we are completely done with the Nyls headache. How could you say no to that?
Now let's say you and I go toe to toe on bird law and see who comes out the victor.
Only downside I see is that it potentially makes the B’s better and takes away a little cap room for this year. But to not have to deal with the Nylander circus ever again, it’d be worth it to me. I’m not that scared of what he could do with the B’s.
If Nyls makes the B’s that much better that it ends up hurting the Caps then that’s probably grounds to fire BB and GMGM.
Now let's say you and I go toe to toe on bird law and see who comes out the victor.
Sorry, but I couldn’t disagree more. He’d immediately be our second-best puck-mover and our smartest defenseman.
Plus, as a member of the 1998 Memorial Cup-winning Portland Winterhawk squad (and my little bro’s favorite player all-time), I’m required to love him.
Alex Semin likes to drink sake after engaging in hockey bukkake.
It was kinda astonishing to see Jagr mix it up with Verot.
The crowd seemed to love it though, until they had to end the game due to a lack of players.
Let's go Caps!
I can only imagine what that bout would be like. I keep picturing the Avery v. Jagr dive.
by DrinkingPartner on Jan 11, 2010 9:38 AM EST up reply actions
Cockfight?!
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Jan 11, 2010 10:06 AM EST up reply actions
Seinfeld, ageless. Love it.
"My face is my mask."
by Jake Shapiro on Jan 11, 2010 10:12 AM EST up reply actions
Little Jerry Seinfeld. Won a few fights before the guy from the bodega brought in a ringer (and Kramer foolishly gave him a hot bath before the fight)
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Jan 11, 2010 1:36 PM EST up reply actions
Can this morning get any better? Nicky in USA Today, J.P. busting out the slide rule, “Slapshot” quote-o-rama in the comments, Carlson getting booed like Ovi, and Dupont suggesting the Bruins take the Swedish anchor off the Caps hands.
A man gotta have a code
I suspect that Carlson will be booed in Canadian cities until the next WJC at least.
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I suspect that Carlson will be booed in Canadian citiesuntil the next WJCuntil doomsday at least.
Fixed that for you…
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by IRockTheRed on Jan 11, 2010 10:17 AM EST up reply actions
A no-look caught-your-goalie-on-the-wrong-post game-winning gold-medal-dreams-crushing goal will tend to stake your reputation, yes.
Could you imagine if he was, say, a Habs prospect?
IS KEPTIN NOW
The Canadian fans would be unBEARable… :-p
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by IRockTheRed on Jan 11, 2010 10:31 AM EST up reply actions
Quick translation from Puck Daddy's "sortof" link... ouch!
Avangard
Team fined – 1,000,000 Rubles (~$34k)
Player suspended one game:
- Dmitriy Vlasenkov
Vityaz
Team fined – 3,000,000 Rubles (~$102k)
Coaches fined – 50,000 Rubles (~$1700.00)
- Aleksey Yarushkin
- Igor Nikitin
Players fined – 150,000 Rubles (~$5100.00)
- Darcy Vera
- Brandon Sugden
- Alexander Svitov
- Dmitriy Vlasenkov
Players suspended one game:
- Darcy Vera
- Brandon Sugden
- Sergey Zuborev
- Rustam Bakhriddinov
- Aleksey Litvinenko
- Dmitriy Megalinskiy
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From what i have heard about the “abandoned” game, some Rubles out of pocket and a one game suspension seems a bit lite by NHL standards…Bettman would have a field day
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by OviWankenobi on Jan 11, 2010 10:35 AM EST up reply actions
It is...
I totally expected more than a one-game suspension… that’s nothing, even in a shortened season like the KHL has (I think they play 50 or so games – not sure of the exact number). The fines are a joke, and so are the suspensions. The clip is up somewhere – I don’t have access to YouTube at work, so I can’t post a link, which I’m sure somebody else already posted somewhere on here over the weekend when I wasn’t looking anyway, but it was a total bench-clearing brawl, including guys coming out of the penalty box to keep fighting. It was crazy!
And they only had the one camera angle, so they lost a lot of record, too… but you’re right; Bettman would have had a cow. He’d be rabid over this.
Vityaz is sitting in last place in the KHL, and has been there since I started following the KHL standings. They’re sitting at 32 points in 40 GP (the KHL uses a three-point system), with a brutally nasty record of 8-22 (w-l), 1-3 (otw-otl), 2-2 (sow-sol). They’re 7 points behind Metallurg Novokunitz (last-but-one place), and 63 points behind first place Metallurg Magnitogorsk.
I guess they felt like they had to fight to get anywhere… but damn.
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by IRockTheRed on Jan 11, 2010 10:49 AM EST up reply actions
Before I was being sarcastic and mocking the Ultimate Fighting on Ice Fans, but now I’m not.
Are you serious? First of all, there’s no way would that many players be ejected from an NHL game for simply participating in a line brawl. The refs would have doled out penalties in such a way that would have ensured that the game would continue.
Despite all the bluff and bluster from many of the Ultimate Fighting on Ice crowd, Bettman has done nothing to tone down the bloodsport in the NHL. The instigator rule he’s blamed for well pre-dates him (try 1987 IIRC).
The only time Bettman has ever sprung into action is when somebody has been hurt by a blatant cheap shot. (Hunter, McSorley, Bertuzzi)
What was Bettman’s response to the Colorado-Detroit fiasco all those years ago? Because I certainly don’t remember him throwing the book at anybody for that nonsense.
So what makes anybody think he’d have a field day with something like this? For crying out loud, when Mary-OH! came charging out of the penalty box to go after Kerry Fraser in 1994, he only slapped down a $2K fine and no suspension.
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It's not technically Bettman's job to hand out fines, etc.
It’s his job to bluster.
I think he’d probably come out rabid and then nothing would change, personally… He’d come out sputtering and condemning and making a big noise, and then it’d be business as usual tomorrow.
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by IRockTheRed on Jan 11, 2010 11:00 AM EST up reply actions
Well Bettman only gets involved when it is a really serious issue where his credibility is on the line.
I haven’t had the chance to watch the videos yet (and to be honest, I’m not sure that I want to watch them anyway) but knowing that in the past that somebody has to be seriously injured before Bettman steps up to the plate, I doubt that this would cause enough of an embarassment for Bettman to do so.
Whatever the incident is, it would have to be enough of an outrage that it would end up on the Broadcast Network Nightly News in order to get Bettman to personally do something about it.
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This was pretty bad… as in by the time they were done handing out penalties, there wasn’t a single player left on either team to continue the game. Bettman would have had to say something or be subject to ridicule by everyon—wait. He’s that anyway.
Nevermind… ;-p
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by IRockTheRed on Jan 11, 2010 11:25 AM EST up reply actions
Also, this wasn’t a line brawl, per se. There were four or five individual fights going on all over the ice at any one time. The video record is not very good, as it only includes a single camera, and it doesn’t show the whole ice the whole time; it zooms in on individual fights.
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by IRockTheRed on Jan 11, 2010 11:05 AM EST up reply actions
My bad – the “line brawls” I’ve seen are basically huge scrums where both teams are fighting in a big clump, not a bunch of individual fights.
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by IRockTheRed on Jan 11, 2010 12:32 PM EST up reply actions
Good Point
I can see that that many players would not be suspended…i do however see the fines for instigator type actions being greater….although it could be relative as i have no clue what the average KHL player makes.
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by OviWankenobi on Jan 11, 2010 11:17 AM EST up reply actions
Part of the problem is that in the KHL, there’s a penalty that translates to “roughness” that seems to cover fighting, roughing, instigator… it’s not too well-defined as far as I can see. In this debacle, I saw penalties handed out for “roughness” (Грубость) ranging from two minutes to 20 minutes, and it was all listed the same in the game summary.
They also had penalties for:
Покидание скамейки (abandoning the bench) – usually 2 minutes
Дисциплинарный штраф (disciplinary penalty) – usually 4 minutes or 10 minutes
Дисциплинарный до конца игры (disciplinary to the end of the game) – usually 20 minutes, but at one point 4 minutes?
The whole thing’s confusing as hell…
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by IRockTheRed on Jan 11, 2010 11:24 AM EST up reply actions
John Carlson/Team USA party pics… at least the ones his mother could/would/should see. [OFB]
Is it me or does JC look like he’s wearing Small’s hat from “sandlot”? that bill is huge! hahaha
Maybe its just that giant Payton Manning like forehead lol
He kind of looks like a grown up version of the Adam Banks character from the mighty ducks……
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by OviWankenobi on Jan 11, 2010 11:41 AM EST up reply actions
Holy crap, he does.
Of all our iniquities ignorance may be the worst
by Killer_Carlson on Jan 11, 2010 2:03 PM EST up reply actions
side note: salary cap chart need tweek
Hey JP, saw you updated the Caps unofficial salary cap chart after the resigning of Steckel and Laing. … Do you mind updating/correcting Semin’s status as well? He signed for next year for $6 mil, no? Also, will he be an ufa or rfa afterwards? Thank you! Your resources are invaluable…
He’ll be a UFA.
A man gotta have a code
by Carl Putnam on Jan 11, 2010 10:43 AM EST up reply actions
Thank you! Your resources are invaluable
I’ll second this. The salary cap chart and the penalty tracker are fantastic resources.
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by Laich It Or Lump It on Jan 11, 2010 11:52 AM EST up reply actions
The KHL fight is on YouTube
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Jan 11, 2010 10:47 AM EST reply actions
Everyone knows Custer died at Little Bighorn. What this book presupposes is... maybe he didn't?
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Jan 11, 2010 10:47 AM EST up reply actions
“Don’t go kicking our boys!!”
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by Bald Pollack on Jan 11, 2010 10:57 AM EST up reply actions
FYI, all – per TEB’s Twitter, Erskine’s not on the ice today. Sloan is partnering with Pothier instead. No other changes to forward or D lines.
No Alex, no ratings. Know Alex, know ratings.
Any word on how he’s doing? The TSN.ca injury report doesn’t list him as hurt…
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by IRockTheRed on Jan 11, 2010 11:26 AM EST up reply actions
I had another Caps dream last night...
Massive injuries to team Canada’s forwards.. Laich made the team!
I’m not into hockey cards at all but I stumbled upon this Bäckström hockey card site and I thought that maybe people that are into that sort of thing would enjoy it.
Nice. I have a bunch of those. Want the rest.
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Apropos of nothing, thought Kellobellow would appreciate this...
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by J.P. on Jan 11, 2010 1:41 PM EST reply actions 6 recs
This is amazing.
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by Knee high to a duck on Jan 11, 2010 2:59 PM EST up reply actions
Holy shit – that’s awesome. Hadn’t seen it. Thanks.
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It looks like all but one of those blogs are from SBN. Seems they have a knack for acquiring talented blog writers.
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by Laich It Or Lump It on Jan 11, 2010 2:42 PM EST up reply actions
I would say they’ve succeeded.
"It's like, how much more black could this be? And the answer is none. None more black."
by Laich It Or Lump It on Jan 11, 2010 3:01 PM EST up reply actions
This blog is awesome, I’m so glad to see some recognition of that. It’s the first thing I go to in the mornings! Congrats and great job JP and crew!
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Amen! The Rink is the only place to go for meat, potatoes, and dessert for all things Caps related.
Bravo JP and team.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Jan 11, 2010 3:09 PM EST up reply actions
Tell me this is shopped so I don’t have to go buy some.
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by Knee high to a duck on Jan 11, 2010 3:14 PM EST up reply actions
Lie to me!
It’s probably not even good, but I’m so curious now. Bacon. Vodka.
Dammit!
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by Knee high to a duck on Jan 11, 2010 4:11 PM EST up reply actions
I feel like we need to order a bottle and have a private “Rink viewing party and vodka tasting event.”
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I feel like this is an excellent idea.
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by Knee high to a duck on Jan 11, 2010 4:41 PM EST up reply actions
You know, I think vodka is “the shark.” When a fad flavoring finally hits vodka, it has finally jumped the shark.
My lovely and alluring wife, with what I think is an excellent point about the Bakon
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Jan 12, 2010 12:53 AM EST up reply actions
Seriously?
Number 7? What a fucking joke. Kind of odd how East coast focused that list is. Fear the Fin and Battle of California definitely deserve more love.
Being a Canes fan myself down here in Carolina, I can only hope they’re planning how to not go on a 14 game winless streak again.
…oh.
Now let's say you and I go toe to toe on bird law and see who comes out the victor.
J.P. – they are just telling the world what we rink rats already knew. Congrats!
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Praising your blogging overlords is never a fail. Thanks for the kudos.
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Good news everyone!
From @TarikElBashir Semyon Varlamov (groin/knee) skated for about 45 minutes at KCI and faced shots from strength and conditioning coach Mark Nemish.
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On the Steckel, Sloan video
Did anyone else see Brucey saying he’s american now? I’m kinda proud.
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Guess that means he can play for Team USA in the Olympics.
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by Laich It Or Lump It on Jan 11, 2010 3:00 PM EST up reply actions
I wouldn’t mind seeing Bruce coach Team USA in Sochi :)
Ovechwin, I’m at work and can’t see the video, can you provide a little more context? Thanks!
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Did anyone else see Brucey saying he’s american now?
Another Canadian flocking to America to flee the horrible Canadian Socialist health care system!
(that was sarcasm)
He disowned Canada after they lost the WJCs.
My ability to post is only surpassed by my ability to pinch pennies.
I thought it was because they snubbed Greenie. BOOO Canada! ANd Booooo Molson Ice!
Although Canada has given us one good thing at least:
Just so long as we don’t see Krapvod brand flavored vodka anytime soon.
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by Gould Old Days on Jan 12, 2010 12:54 AM EST up reply actions
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