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Jay Beagle and Mathieu Perreault have been reassigned to Hershey (AHL).

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Alzner, Sloan, Aucoin, Giroux…. anyone else still up?

by DrinkingPartner on Sep 25, 2009 12:21 PM EDT reply actions  

and bourque… and sugden, right?

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by kellobellow on Sep 25, 2009 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Collins, too.

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by J.P. on Sep 25, 2009 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

And Laing.

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by gotsparkly on Sep 25, 2009 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

And to think, NYR are already down to 23 players.

by DrinkingPartner on Sep 25, 2009 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, yes, their choices are much easier than ours. NYR wishes they had our depth problems.

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by gotsparkly on Sep 25, 2009 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

A lot of teams do..! Well, maybe not Montreal – they’d rather have our height problems.

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by winterion on Sep 25, 2009 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, yes, it’d be nice if their entire top line would have to worry about hitting their head on a toadstool.

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by gotsparkly on Sep 25, 2009 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

definitely saw it coming, but i’m a big fan of those two :(

"No Brooks Laich, no win. Know Brooks Laich, know win."

by kellobellow on Sep 25, 2009 12:22 PM EDT reply actions  

Hmmm…things are getting interesting.

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by Steck It Out on Sep 25, 2009 12:22 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

I thought Beagle might make it. Guess I was wrong.

by mechanicsville on Sep 25, 2009 12:23 PM EDT reply actions  

Maybe BB really is going to hold 8 D. I’m surprised that both Alzner and Sloan are still up, to be quite honest.

by DrinkingPartner on Sep 25, 2009 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Me too. Like others, I think that Sloan has outplayed Alzner in this camp, and if they only keep one, it’s got to be Sloan.

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by gotsparkly on Sep 25, 2009 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think it’s a little more complicated than that. I think Alzner’s got the edge because, with a little bit more coaching, he’ll surpass Sloan this year, IMO. BB may keep Sloan to give him time with the big boys, but it’s ultimately Alzner who’ll benefit more from more specialized Woods-ing than Sloan will.

by DrinkingPartner on Sep 25, 2009 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

But we can keep Sloan now and let Alzner mature in HER. When Alzner is ready GMGM can move one of the NHL D and bring him up. Alzner freely passes through waivers in and out of HER so there is no threat of losing him, while there always is with Sloan.

If you're after gettin' the honey, then you don't go killin' all them bees.

by Rob Parker on Sep 25, 2009 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agree. Besides, I wouldn’t mind having an Alzner-Carlson pairing in Hershey and let them “grow” together.

by ThreePingPost on Sep 25, 2009 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

They did say they like playing with each other.

If you're after gettin' the honey, then you don't go killin' all them bees.

by Rob Parker on Sep 25, 2009 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

How the eff is Sugden still up.

If you're after gettin' the honey, then you don't go killin' all them bees.

by Rob Parker on Sep 25, 2009 12:26 PM EDT reply actions  

There’s still another tilt with Brash to be had, of course.

by DrinkingPartner on Sep 25, 2009 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sugden got his fight for his father. What’s gonna happen if we don’t have him in the next pre-season game? Brash just takes PIMs and doesn’t get to fight? Big deal. I’m almost with ChrisAm on this. Sugden can have one look but to give him 2 games when he’s not really showing you anything other than fighting is a waste of a spot that may as well be wasted on Nyls.

If you're after gettin' the honey, then you don't go killin' all them bees.

by Rob Parker on Sep 25, 2009 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

But if it’s wasted either way, what does it matter in what way it’s wasted?

by DrinkingPartner on Sep 25, 2009 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’d rather it not be wasted and go to someone who plays hockey and has a chance to show BB something.

If you're after gettin' the honey, then you don't go killin' all them bees.

by Rob Parker on Sep 25, 2009 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Unless they have a strategic reason for not putting Nylander in skates during the preseason.

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by winterion on Sep 25, 2009 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

My gf was not too happy about him wearing number 25.

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by zephyr on Sep 25, 2009 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, that was weird.

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by gotsparkly on Sep 25, 2009 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know. It’s been a while since 25 made an impact on the score sheet. Zzzzzzzzzzing.

If you're after gettin' the honey, then you don't go killin' all them bees.

by Rob Parker on Sep 25, 2009 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

PING! (think “off the post” noise)

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by gotsparkly on Sep 25, 2009 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not the last time we see either Perreault or Beagle in a Caps’ sweater this year.

Atta dinnin stick a who!

by Gould Old Days on Sep 25, 2009 12:27 PM EDT reply actions  

Agreed…they probably will be called up some time this season.

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by Steck It Out on Sep 25, 2009 12:28 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Beagle looks like he’s ready to contribute in the NHL right now. Imagine he is the the extremely short list for injury replacements. Not sure we can say the same about Perreault in terms of his readiness? I’ve seen a very limited sample of his game play, of course, but I’m thinking he has room to develop in terms of physical strength and defensive responsibility?

I caveant this again, though, with the observation that I just haven’t seen him very much, so I could well be underestimating him.

Side note: we’ll see if this avatar thing works.

by fat_daddyo on Sep 25, 2009 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

perreault definitely has room to develop, but if they need a call-up, i can’t see them not giving him a chance. he may not be first on the list, but i see him getting at least some time.

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by kellobellow on Sep 25, 2009 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Perreault will come up, I hope, if Morrison goes down, and not a moment sooner. He has no place anywhere below the top-6, and I think it’d be misusing him to place him elsewhere.

by DrinkingPartner on Sep 25, 2009 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

definitely makes sense.

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by kellobellow on Sep 25, 2009 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m the Mathieu Perreault lobby, and I endorse this message.

If you're after gettin' the honey, then you don't go killin' all them bees.

by Rob Parker on Sep 25, 2009 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

so Aucoin, Giroux, and Bourque filled the forward openings?

Now we’ll just wait and see if BB keeps 8 D or 7 with the fight coming down to Sloan and Alzner. Gotta believe he’ll keep Sloan over Alzner. What if he keeps 8 D with Erskine as the consistent healthy scratch, only to activate against the thug teams while rotatating the other 7?

by bigity b on Sep 25, 2009 12:29 PM EDT reply actions  

Not yet. Laing’s still up, too. The forward openings aren’t entirely decided yet.

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by gotsparkly on Sep 25, 2009 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

ah yes, forgot about him and he’s really made an impression too

by bigity b on Sep 25, 2009 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

If you put a gun to my head and made me guess at who from Hershey makes the team, based solely on performance, I’ve got to go with Aucoin, Laing, and Sloan. Both Sloan and Laing are good penalty killers and Aucoin brings hard work and depth scoring.

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by gotsparkly on Sep 25, 2009 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thank god I dont have a gun. Although I’d probably ask, who would win in a fight, a taco or grilled cheese?

by MetalCap on Sep 25, 2009 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

A Taco Bell taco or a real taco?

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by gotsparkly on Sep 25, 2009 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Taco Hell*

fixed that.

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by Steck It Out on Sep 25, 2009 12:49 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Toxic Hell. Taste it again, for the third time.

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by gotsparkly on Sep 25, 2009 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

That choice is up to you. And does that really make a difference in a fight against a grilled cheese?

by MetalCap on Sep 25, 2009 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Taco Bell taco could breathe on you and knock you over. Against a real taco, it’s a fair fight, but I’ll still go with the grilled cheese.

"It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees." - Delores Ibarruri

by gotsparkly on Sep 25, 2009 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Grilled cheese would win in a fair fight. If its prison rules, i’m betting on the taco

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by Sombrero Guy on Sep 25, 2009 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Exactly! Thanks for playing.

by MetalCap on Sep 25, 2009 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s pretty racist, but correct.

by CCO on Sep 25, 2009 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

i suggest watching this movie, then you’ll get it

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by Sombrero Guy on Sep 25, 2009 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thank God, I hate being “that guy” that completely misses the basis for such hilarious banter… : ]

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by war_capitals on Sep 25, 2009 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agree, though I am an ardent Bourque supporter…

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by Steck It Out on Sep 25, 2009 12:38 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

same here – i’m just wondering if they’re willing to risk losing bourque to waivers

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by kellobellow on Sep 25, 2009 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Risk is a generous word. You waive him at this point, you’re essentially giving him away for free. That only happens if the team really doesn’t have plans for him in Washington and can’t trade him for anything, which seems unrealistic.

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by winterion on Sep 25, 2009 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

exactly – which means he most likely won’t be assigned to hershey, because he won’t make it out of waivers. if there’s no place for him, they’ll try to work out a trade. (what i was trying to say in the first place)

"No Brooks Laich, no win. Know Brooks Laich, know win."

by kellobellow on Sep 25, 2009 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

By the way, the scarf in the avatar? Trying to make a statement?
Scarves…

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by winterion on Sep 25, 2009 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

bahaha, what? i think i missed something. or i’m just tired.

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by kellobellow on Sep 26, 2009 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

He’s on the team, at this point, I’m pretty certain. Aucoin, Giroux and Bourque…I guess one of them’s got to make it. Not Giroux. Bourque hasn’t done much. Aucoin by default?

by fat_daddyo on Sep 25, 2009 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed, I think Laing is a lock and plays like his hustle to get a scoring chance on the PK last night (outskated 2 Rags for the loose puck) cemented that. I think he’ll be a great 4th liner and penalty killer.

I also think it’ll be Aucoin by default (though he’s played well enough to earn it, don’t get me wrong). I think CBo gets traded along with a D if there are any takers.

by grapejoos on Sep 25, 2009 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Giroux is headed back to Hershey, no doubt. The only question is if they go with Bourque or Aucoin, which is a legit question, though going by sheer performance in the preseason, Aucoin wins.

The next question becomes, is Chris traded or healthy-scratched? I’d really, really, really prefer the latter, mainly because I’m not sold on anyone else in the system top-six-winging right now, including Giroux and Aucoin. Besides, they could trade now, but if they can hold on to trade material now and make a better move down the road, once team situations are shaping up, and a potential defensive gem on a losing team becomes available nearer to the deadline, I’d rather have the ammo then to pick him up.

(Or, fill in a gap the team has due to unforeseen circumstances.)

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by winterion on Sep 25, 2009 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Also, at this point, the only defender I see them trying to keep up here is Sloan, if at all, and only if they have a move lined up for someone like ShaMo or Jurcina to acquire picks/prospects, meaning they carry 7 D. (14-7-2)

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by winterion on Sep 25, 2009 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

The next question becomes, is Chris traded or healthy-scratched? I’d really, really, really prefer the latter, mainly because I’m not sold on anyone else in the system top-six-winging right now, including Giroux and Aucoin.

Only delays the problem until Flash and/or Fehr return, and that won’t be very long in the grand scheme of things…

Atta dinnin stick a who!

by Gould Old Days on Sep 25, 2009 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dare I say...

Anyone think GMGM has some trade chatter up his sleeve, hence keeping 10 D even after BB has routinely said he’s going with the 7 from last year? (plus the Bourque ‘story’ a week ago)?

by bigity b on Sep 25, 2009 12:40 PM EDT reply actions  

I wonder if he could group up some of the “NHL ready” cuts and swing a deal…

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by Steck It Out on Sep 25, 2009 12:46 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

He might be doing just that. Sounds like a question for tomorrow, if we get a chance?

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by gotsparkly on Sep 25, 2009 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

McPhee rarely divulges the slightest bit of information. There’s no way he gives anything of value concerning potential trades or roster composition to a room full of fans and media a week before the season starts.

by David Getz on Sep 25, 2009 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

‘McPhee sucks’ is probably cled in a nutshell. To me, it’s the point where I stop reading.

by David Getz on Sep 25, 2009 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

To me, the quintessential cled is “Schultz sucks because he doesn’t hit.”

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by gotsparkly on Sep 25, 2009 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

i missed the origin behind cled….care to explain? is it goofing on cap insider commenters?

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by Sombrero Guy on Sep 25, 2009 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Spot on, senor.

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by Steck It Out on Sep 25, 2009 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

someone wrote CIed, but everyone read it as C-L-E-D, and we all spent the morning going “I’ve been cled?”

by RedBirdie on Sep 25, 2009 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

“Ci-ed”?

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by Steck It Out on Sep 25, 2009 1:53 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

cled is just fun to say.

by RedBirdie on Sep 25, 2009 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

this

from the house that Red Jesus built

by bigonetimer on Sep 25, 2009 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

is it it pronounced like “lead” as in leader, or “lead” as in lead balloon?

by RedBirdie on Sep 25, 2009 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s right, like “lead”

Atta dinnin stick a who!

by Gould Old Days on Sep 25, 2009 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

No, no, it’s pronounced “fuck” as in way to know.

by fat_daddyo on Sep 25, 2009 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dumb jokes aside, George McPhee is a wonderful GM. He’s made some mistakes in the draft (who hasn’t?), but he’s given the org. a cohesive, integrated approach to building a winner that most teams would love to have.

by fat_daddyo on Sep 25, 2009 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

he’s given the org. a cohesive, integrated approach to building a winner that most teams would love to have.

Game, set, match.

by David Getz on Sep 25, 2009 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Indeed. I wonder who or what GMGM would have his eyes on…

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by Steck It Out on Sep 25, 2009 12:56 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Picks, I would have to imagine? They’ve got a bunch of depth, so they don’t need warm bodies. But the AnGus draft is looking a little wobbly at the moment; and they might be well served to have some extra picks for use at the trade deadline.

by fat_daddyo on Sep 25, 2009 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

What do you mean by “Angus draft.” Do you mean the Angus pick (1/21) or the 2008 draft in general. I think between Carlson, Kugryshev, Holtby, and SDR that draft is looking pretty bright.

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by Rob Parker on Sep 25, 2009 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Agreed. All of those players have promise, and if three of those turn out to play in the NHL it’s a decent draft.

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by gotsparkly on Sep 25, 2009 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Was referring specifically to AnGus and in general to the fact that the upper minors are not awash in Top-6 guys. If Fehr does not pan out, and when BMo and Knuble are gone, there are going to be some slots available in the top two lines.

Perreault maybe fills one, but after that I can’t think of any slam dunks. Giroux is looking more and more like he’s not going to be an NHL regular.

They could use some picks to try and change that, is all I’m saying.

by fat_daddyo on Sep 25, 2009 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Giroux has already looked like a career-AHLer.

Between Flash, Fehr, MP, Osala, Kugryshev, Bouchard (as unlikely as it looks), Johansson, and Angus (as unlikely as I think it is) I think we have a pretty decent chance at filling top 6 holes in the next couple years. We also have our own draft picks coming in that time. To get a first or second round pick, the only picks that could expect payoff within 2 seasons (and that is being very generous to the 2nd round pick) GMGM would have to give up a significant asset. I think it just makes more sense to use the picks we have and continue to develop our own players.

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by Rob Parker on Sep 25, 2009 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think AnGus needs another 2 years, which will be about right, given that he’ll be right at the end of his rookie contract.

I also have to wonder about Marcus Johansson. I’d like to see him pan out.

by DrinkingPartner on Sep 25, 2009 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

another 2 years to develop into an NHLer*, sorry.

by DrinkingPartner on Sep 25, 2009 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Johansson played SEL for a year before he was drafted. Angus still hasn’t played a full year of SEL and he doesn’t think he can crack his team’s lineup this year. I think Johansson has a better chance of panning out as a 2C than Angus. I also think 2 years is the absolute fastest Angus could reach the NHL, but I’m not counting on it.

If you're after gettin' the honey, then you don't go killin' all them bees.

by Rob Parker on Sep 25, 2009 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

So the crease clearing D man is basically void now?

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by Steck It Out on Sep 25, 2009 1:17 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I think the whole “crease-clearing Dman thing”, if it happens, is more likely to happen in the spring. We’ll probably be okay without one for the regular season (see last year), and waiting until spring gives GMGM time to survey the pack, survey the Caps’ play, and decide what is really needed for a Cup run, not just what we think we need. Given our roster depth at D, getting another Dman now could really, really hamstring us at the deadline, and a freak injury could mean that we need something we don’t expect.

I expect GMGM to sit tight until the deadline and wait and see what is really needed.

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by gotsparkly on Sep 25, 2009 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

No, but that’d require an awful lot of peices to fall in to place. The Caps would want to move at least two defensemen, they’d have to find someone who wants what they’re willing to give up, and it has to work financially for both sides. I don’t see any trading partner with a physical defenseman who’s significantly better than what the Capitals have now where a trade makes sense for both sides.

by David Getz on Sep 25, 2009 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

What are the odds, do you think, that any major trade would involve either Varlamov or Neuvirth?

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by gotsparkly on Sep 25, 2009 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

none. they’re the two goalies on the roster next year after Theo leaves, err i mean, his contract expires.

I’m sticking with ShaneMo as most likely (given contract and/or potential return) plus some bubble forward players not named Laing. Erskine, maybe too.

by bigity b on Sep 25, 2009 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

At this point, probably as close to zero as you can get unless someone offers McPhee something crazy. The odds of Varlamov and Neuvirth panning out individually are good, not great. But the odds of one of the two panning out are pretty good, I’d think, and I don’t see McPhee lowering his odds unless it was for a sure thing.

If we get to March and Varlamov’s tearing it up and someone’s out there, maybe. But goaltending prospects don’t usually go for that much and I think keeping the tandem intact it worth more to the Capitals than one guy is worth to another team.

by David Getz on Sep 25, 2009 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yup
If we get to March and Varlamov’s tearing it up and someone’s out there, maybe

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by Sct112 on Sep 25, 2009 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

when considering two young, “white hot” goaltender prospects, send RSVPs to Olie Kolzig

by bigity b on Sep 25, 2009 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

GOOD

I was hoping you’d say that.

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by gotsparkly on Sep 25, 2009 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

True, too many “ifs” and the pieces need to fall our way. Guess we’ll have to rely on Schultz.

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by Steck It Out on Sep 25, 2009 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I dunno, he’s looked pretty darn good this pre-season.

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by gotsparkly on Sep 25, 2009 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

This.

I’ve been consistently with the play I’ve seen out of Jeff Schultz this season. Same positional game, same great wingspan, more strength and (somewhat) more offensive involvement. Guy’s still 23, his not at his ceiling yet.

by Knee high to a duck on Sep 25, 2009 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Rec’d. My observations exactly.

Atta dinnin stick a who!

by Gould Old Days on Sep 25, 2009 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Totally agree…I think GMGM wants to trade for value for a couple guys, like Bourque. Bourque could play on the right NHL team, and there’s no reason to lose him on the depth chart without getting something of value in return. I doubt they’d put him through waivers because of the threat of losing him without trying to trade him first.

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by KellyinDC on Sep 25, 2009 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

So we don’t need to take the belts and shoelaces from the MP lobby?

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by Bald Pollack on Sep 25, 2009 1:38 PM EDT reply actions  

Bed sheets too BP, and mouse cords, and laptop power cables… this is a long list.

by Sct112 on Sep 25, 2009 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Easy now. We ain’t out on the ledge. We knew this wasn’t his year. The MP Lobby is just happy that he got a legit chance to show he can play with NHL players this pre-season; and he proved he can. He needs to go to HER and be the guy for a year. Next year he pushes for the big club.

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by Rob Parker on Sep 25, 2009 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

There might have been someone who made bigger strides than Mathieu Perreault from last year’s camp to this, but it would be a short list. Last year, he had an air of indifference about him, as if he was thinking he could get by on skill alone. This year, he looked to be in better shape, was more determined, and looked to have a more rounded game. If he can use this season at Hershey as another opportunity to raise his game another notch or two, he’s going to be difficult to send down next year.

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by ThePeerless on Sep 25, 2009 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

This, both for Perreault and how the big club might look at center come July.

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by Bald Pollack on Sep 25, 2009 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

I didn’t see him actually play last year so I don’t know about the indifference. If he was able to produce like he did in HER last season on skill alone, then that’s a scary thought of where he could take his game. He showed a lot of tenacity and toughness this pre-season and it’s clear that every time he is on the ice he’s one of the most skilled guys out there. That size question mark isn’t going to go away, but if he keeps making things happen he’ll win a spot.

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by Rob Parker on Sep 25, 2009 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Produce last year on skill alone as a 5’9", 180 lb. rookie, no less.

by DrinkingPartner on Sep 25, 2009 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

With no PP time.

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by Rob Parker on Sep 25, 2009 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Let’s see what he does with PP time, because I don’t doubt he’ll see it this year.

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by gotsparkly on Sep 25, 2009 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

I expect him to get plenty of PP time as well. He’ll probably be the 2C there because HER likes to go with a veteran top line.

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by Rob Parker on Sep 25, 2009 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

And the Perreault Lobby shouldn’t be too disappointed if Aucoin spends some time with the Caps either — that makes Perreault the 1C in Hershey, with Giroux on his wing. Pretty good experience, that.

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by Gould Old Days on Sep 25, 2009 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah. Boyd Kane is a W, correct? The only other challenger would be Kyle Wilson or Beagle but I think they probably play on a beast of a 3rd line with A. Gordon.

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by Rob Parker on Sep 25, 2009 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

It is kind of scary how good a roster they have in Hershey.

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by winterion on Sep 25, 2009 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Definitely. Unfortunately for them, we’ll see what is left by the time playoffs roll around. I think they are starting the season with Alzner/Carlson as the top D pair, which is insane. I don’t think they finish the season with that, though.

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by Rob Parker on Sep 25, 2009 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

In about two weeks there’ll be another big difference for Perreault — a beautiful new ring on his finger. Experience matters, and championships matter even more.

If Backstrom or BraMo are out for 1-3 games, I’d call Perreault up for a cup of coffee. Any longer than that and I’d either want Aucoin, or I’d want to call up a wing and put Laich in at C.

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by Gould Old Days on Sep 25, 2009 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Barring any trades, how many forward spots realistically open up next year? It’s a given Nylander goes, and Morrison’s contract is only for a year, but otherwise? For all the Hershey guys we keep saying might get a place next year, I was wondering.

by gfcaps fan on Sep 25, 2009 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, the UFA’s next season are:

Stecks, BMo, Giroux, Kane, Laing, Aucoin

The RFA’s are:

Semin, Backstrom, Beagle, Fehr, B. Gordon, Flash, A. Gordon, Bourque, Wilson

The fact is that the Caps are a young and deep team.

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by gotsparkly on Sep 25, 2009 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

You have to believe that Steckel will be back. And with apologies to the Perreault Lobby, if B-Mo isn’t re-signed to be next year’s 2C, then I don’t think next year’s 2C is in the organization right now. It’s possible, but unlikely, that Perreault plays well enough to claim that spot. Kyle Wilson is the longest of longshots. I don’t see anyone else who could.

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by Gould Old Days on Sep 25, 2009 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Another man, not me, a man less intimately involved with the Perreault Lobby, that kind of man might suggest that Marcus Johansson actually has the inside track at 2C because he played in the SEL before his draft year, a more impressive feat than any other C prospect in the system.

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by Rob Parker on Sep 25, 2009 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

In 2 years. Not next year. I like everything I hear about Johansson, but Backstrom he ain’t.

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by Gould Old Days on Sep 25, 2009 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Clearly not, Backstrom was SEL RoY. Johansson played in the SEL all year but in a much more limited role. He’ll play SEL again this year in a more significant role and then come to North America and probably go to HER but we shall see.

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by Rob Parker on Sep 25, 2009 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m leaning towards Gouldie on this one—if BMo doesn’t pan out, I think we’re on the market again this coming summer for the 2C.

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by bigonetimer on Sep 26, 2009 1:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m agreeing with him on that point.

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by Rob Parker on Sep 26, 2009 1:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

Does anyone else think Giroux reminds Boudreau of his younger self? i.e. a talented, high-scoring AHLer that just needs a small, low-watt light bulb to go off to become an NHL regular? Boudreau might be giving Giroux every possible chance to make the transition, since he’s been in that same position?

by RPI93 on Sep 25, 2009 5:36 PM EDT reply actions  

I’m sure that’s been brought up before because it’s incredibly obvious. Also, I’m not sure, but I got the impression that Bruce sort of alluded to something like that in one of his press sessions. You know he’s got a soft spot for the AAAA player.

by gfcaps fan on Sep 25, 2009 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Soft spot in his heart maybe, but not on his roster. If anything, I see Boudreau holding the Giroux types to a higher standard, and preferencing the Q Laing types when roster decisions are made.

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by Gould Old Days on Sep 25, 2009 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

But anyone other than Bruce probably would have shipped Giroux back to Hershey by now. He’s had one good game in three played. That’s not going to dislodge a guy already on the roster.

by gfcaps fan on Sep 25, 2009 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t know that I’d put a huge amount of significance into the timing of the cuts.

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by Gould Old Days on Sep 25, 2009 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

75 AHL goals last year He’s still on the roster based on that rep more than this year’s preseason.

by Stormblue on Sep 25, 2009 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

No Collins love here? Is he the invisible man? In the preseason games I’ve seen, he’s played as well as Sloan and better than Alzner. I don’t know if I would count him out. Though I’d probably give Sloan a very tiny edge.

by rule56 on Sep 25, 2009 5:45 PM EDT reply actions  

Also, Collins is a year and a half younger (Collins is about to turn 26; Sloan is 28)

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by Gould Old Days on Sep 25, 2009 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, but Sloan’s gotten into more games, hasn’t he? That theoretically would give him the inside track, especially as I think he’s been praised every time.

by gfcaps fan on Sep 25, 2009 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

And while I think Collins has been steady and good, Sloan has really been noticeable out there for his quality of play.

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by Gould Old Days on Sep 25, 2009 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sloan was also better when called up last year. I just don’t see a spot for Collins.

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by Rob Parker on Sep 25, 2009 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think Sloan is re-defining “late bloomer” this season.

Didn’t Collins spend most of 2007-2008 in ECHL? Give him another year, maybe he’ll pull a Sloan, too. (incidentally, anyone know how Collin ended up in the Caps system?)

by RedBirdie on Sep 25, 2009 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

<a href=“http://”Signed as a free agent by Washington, March 19, 2007."" >"Signed as a free agent by Washington, March 19, 2007."

Looking at his career stats, it looks to me like he was a free agent coming out of college at Ohio State (undrafted I’d guess), and he got a tryout with Hershey in 06-07. Must have played well enough to earn a contract.

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by Gould Old Days on Sep 25, 2009 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks!

Other interesting tidbit I learned while reading bios: two years in a row, Sloan finished second on his junior team in scoring by D-men…….to none other than Shaone Morrisson.

by RedBirdie on Sep 25, 2009 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

The other fun note is that Sloan was an Ohio State freshman during Steckel’s senior year there, so they played together.

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by Gould Old Days on Sep 25, 2009 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Collins or Sloan?

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by Rob Parker on Sep 25, 2009 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

no, that’s Collins :) Steckel needs Collins to make the team to balance out all these Michigan guys.

by RedBirdie on Sep 25, 2009 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

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