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BQ. It’s a little too early to talk about retiring John Carlson’s number, but Bruce Boudreau did tell him he’s going to be “a great NHL player.”

I would have thought Brantt Myhres’ banner would be hanging in the rafters by now…

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by ThePeerless on Sep 24, 2009 6:57 AM EDT reply actions  

If Karl has that first beer with the Snoop Dogg ‘stache, that’s epic.

"Sometimes life leads a $100 bill on your dresser, and you don't realize until later that it's because it screwed you."

by Bald Pollack on Sep 24, 2009 7:22 AM EDT reply actions  

While we make a big deal out of the players turning 21, it’s no big deal for the non-Americans. Even in Canada, the drinking age is 19.

by gfcaps fan on Sep 24, 2009 7:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, but that reality ruins the quip.

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by J.P. on Sep 24, 2009 7:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

My gifts are many, including dry wit.

"Sometimes life leads a $100 bill on your dresser, and you don't realize until later that it's because it screwed you."

by Bald Pollack on Sep 24, 2009 7:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I know, I just get too reality based sometimes. Especially as my daughter went to school not too far from the border and went up there a couple of times before turning 21 (forget that college parties don’t card worth a damn anyway).

Didn’t mean to party poop.

by gfcaps fan on Sep 24, 2009 8:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

More to the point, Alzner’s just turning 21 and you’ve got some who are disappointed in his development and have already hoisted Carlson past him as the flavor of the month. Let’s keep in mind that of the 11 defensemen that went in the first round of the ‘07 draft, not one, aside from Alzner, has played a game in the NHL and only two have seen any kind of AHL action. If Karl does go back to Hershey, he’ll still be light years ahead of every other defenseman drafted that year in terms of development.

by b.orr4 on Sep 24, 2009 9:16 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Perspective: it’s what’s for dinner.

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by J.P. on Sep 24, 2009 9:30 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

We should have Randall Munroe come on in a guest chat – we’ve got to be the sports blog who references XKCD the most. I’m sure he’d be honored. And then taunt us about being sports fans.

by DrinkingPartner on Sep 24, 2009 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Agreed and rec’d.

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by EmilyB on Sep 24, 2009 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

Anyone who will do this is a friend of mine:

by David Getz on Sep 24, 2009 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

It’s times like this that I wish I’d been a Math major instead of an English major – to understand what the hell he’s talking about.

by DrinkingPartner on Sep 24, 2009 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

It’s an unsolvable number :)

"It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees." - Delores Ibarruri

by gotsparkly on Sep 24, 2009 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

OFF-TOPIC, I KNOW

but can someone explain that? I’m curious to know.

by DrinkingPartner on Sep 24, 2009 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Briefly, Verizon sent him a bill bot 2/1000 of a dollar.

The middle term is Euler’s identity (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euler%27s_identity). That evaulates to -1. The third term is a sum is equal to 1.

So the final amount for the check is the 0.002 dollars he “owed”

by renstar on Sep 24, 2009 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, technically it’s an asymptote, but yes, it approaches one.

Thank you — it’s been too many years and I missed Euler’s identity.

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by gotsparkly on Sep 24, 2009 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hence the briefly ;)

by renstar on Sep 24, 2009 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Mad rec-age for posting that.

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by gotsparkly on Sep 24, 2009 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Cap’n on the SOB line, from Corey’s article:

“It is something where they can make plays without even looking, and it ends up tape-to-tape and in the back of the net,” captain Chris Clark said.

The problem is, they often do make plays without looking first…

Atta dinnin stick a who!

by Gould Old Days on Sep 24, 2009 8:05 AM EDT reply actions  

Catching up with rising prospect Mathieu Perreault. [OFB]

There’s been a lot of humor at OFB’s expense around here the last few months, and I’ve definitely taken part in my share, but this is the kind of post that I really like from them. This is where the “fans with a microphone and a blog” schtik is at its best.

Atta dinnin stick a who!

by Gould Old Days on Sep 24, 2009 8:22 AM EDT reply actions  

I like the picture in that article. He sort of has an “Um, who are you and why are you taking a picture of me?” look on his face.

by Laich It Or Lump It on Sep 24, 2009 8:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think we’d all have similar reactions if we were accosted in the locker room while about to get naked and hit the showers – don’t you think :-) ?

by DrinkingPartner on Sep 24, 2009 9:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ovie doesn’t seem to mind….

by Laich It Or Lump It on Sep 24, 2009 9:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

As we know, AO gets plenty of naked time before and after games. It’s all part of the natural cycle for him.

by DrinkingPartner on Sep 24, 2009 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I guess after a couple hours of wearing hockey pads and skates it must be liberating to do interviews in nothing but a towel and gold necklace.

by Laich It Or Lump It on Sep 24, 2009 10:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

Besides, his naked time is usually an improvement over his normal wardrobe.

by Forsch31 on Sep 24, 2009 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

Explain your choice of the word ‘apparently’ in your Kolzig bullet. Did you expect more fanfare or a presser?

01-20-13...the end of an error

by hotdog88gt on Sep 24, 2009 8:23 AM EDT reply actions  

To the contrary, it was intended as a comment on how you couldn’t swing a dead cat on the Internet without hitting a “Kolzig retired” post/article (not that I think that’s inappropriate by any means, just a bit overwhelming and a reminder of the age of coverage in which we find ourselves). And if Olie had wanted a presser, he’d have held a presser.

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by J.P. on Sep 24, 2009 8:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

And if Olie had wanted a presser, he’d have held a presser.

To remind people that there’s only 1 L in his name, hopefully.

"Sometimes life leads a $100 bill on your dresser, and you don't realize until later that it's because it screwed you."

by Bald Pollack on Sep 24, 2009 8:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

But there are two Ls in Godzilla. It’s so hard to know which he’d prefer.

by DrinkingPartner on Sep 24, 2009 9:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

I dunno, even with his travel years, he meets the requisite 10 years with the club.. I think Teemu is a lock for the Ducks.

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by winterion on Sep 24, 2009 9:40 AM EDT reply actions  

I like the Maple Leaf’s way of doing it – honoring greats without taking their numbers out of circulation. Retiring a number should be reserved for when you can’t ever imagine anyone else wearing that number.

(I hope it is many, many years before we have this discussion about the number 8.)

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by gotsparkly on Sep 24, 2009 9:58 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Honored numbers is a good way to go. Similarly, a “Ring of Honor” like they had at RFK would be pretty bad ass and would allow another tier of players (like a Calle Johansson, Kelly Miller or Jason Doig) to get their due.

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by J.P. on Sep 24, 2009 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

Fun memory.

Let us never speak of him, again.

by DrinkingPartner on Sep 24, 2009 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

CAN’T UNSEE

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by CapitalsKremlin on Sep 24, 2009 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Ring of Honor is the way to go. Already, the Caps have one too many numbers retired and if you add Olie’s then you probably have to add Bondra’s. I’m sorry, but five retired jersies for a team that’s never won a Cup is a bit much. And like you said, a Rong of Honor opens it up to a lot more guys who are deserving of that kind of recognition.

by b.orr4 on Sep 24, 2009 10:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

That would be Ring not Rong.

by b.orr4 on Sep 24, 2009 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

And “jerseys” instead of “jersies.” Sorry, I couldn’t resist.

by Laich It Or Lump It on Sep 24, 2009 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

Go ahead. Twist the knife.

by b.orr4 on Sep 24, 2009 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

and… um… you smell funny. /knife twisted

by Laich It Or Lump It on Sep 24, 2009 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t think there’s any litmus test for how many retired numbers is too many, frankly. And I’m not sure how you can really say that guys like Langway, Gartner, Hunter, and especially Labre deserve to have their numbers retired and Kolzig and Bondra don’t. None of those guys brought a cup to DC, nor did they even take the Caps to the finals (excluding Hunter). Langway and Gartner may be Hall of Famers (and I think the argument can be made for Hunter), but I think the real test has to be what they did for the Caps. I’m not sure I see a justifiable distinction between the contributions of the guys above and Bondra’s and Kolzig’s.

I’m fine waiting 10 years or whatever, but Bondra and Kolzig were the Caps for a whole generation of fans the same way that the guys who have had their numbers retired were. I can’t imagine anyone else wearing #12 or #37 for the Caps. The criteria should be the same no matter how many numbers have been retired already. We’re not the Miami Heat here (who, believe it or not, have two retired numbers – Michael Jordan’s and Dan Marino’s). These guys were all great players for a long time for the team and got them closer than any others did to winning the Cup.

by grapejoos on Sep 24, 2009 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think people worry too much about diluting the significance of honored players. An educated fan will look up at the rafters and know the accomplishments of each player hanging there.

Waiting around 10 years will help gain some perspective on a player’s contribution to the organization. We should feel no obligation to retire a number immediately after said player retires. It took ten years to retire Gartner’s number after all.

by Laich It Or Lump It on Sep 24, 2009 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

But is there any doubt about what Olie did for the club?

by red army line on Sep 24, 2009 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

No, not really, but I was speaking about number retirements in general. Be it Kolzig, Bondra, etc. My point is people worry too much about how a new number retirement will affect the prestige of the numbers already retired.

by Laich It Or Lump It on Sep 24, 2009 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

to me, Olie is sort of like the Cal Ripken of the Caps…..and I know the Orioles didn’t waste any time retiring their #8 (of course, things ended on a slightly less bitter note between Cal and the Os, but you get my drift)

by RedBirdie on Sep 24, 2009 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

While I love both players, and both players are my favorites from their respective teams, I can’t say I agree. Cal brought a World Series to the Baltimore and he also set a record that will never be beaten in his consecutive games streak. He also had 3000 hits, which is a sizable benchmark. It was never a debate whether or not he would be a Hall of Famer.

by Laich It Or Lump It on Sep 24, 2009 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

I love Cal Ripken. But he didn’t bring the WS to Balmer. He was a second year player on an already highly talented team. Through his entire prime they were never as successful.

If you're after gettin' the honey, then you don't go killin' all them bees.

by Rob Parker on Sep 24, 2009 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

I didn’t mean he single-handedly brought them a World Series. I just meant he was a contributor to a championship for his team. He did catch the last out of the series after all. Kolzig lead his team to the brink, but they never brought home a championship.

My point was Cal contributed more to his sport than Kolzig (IMO). No knock on Olie. Cal was just a hell of a player. I think the real comparison is that both men helped lead their team through some lean years for their team. Beyond that, I’m not so sure.

by Laich It Or Lump It on Sep 24, 2009 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Let me qualify this by saying that I was caught up in the whole streak thing as a youngin’, so there may be a bit of hero worship here. You could tell me Cal Ripken cured cancer and I would believe it.

by Laich It Or Lump It on Sep 24, 2009 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m with you on the Ripken hero worship. And I’m with you that he’s far more important to his sport.

If you're after gettin' the honey, then you don't go killin' all them bees.

by Rob Parker on Sep 24, 2009 6:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

I love Cal Ripken. But he didn’t bring the WS to Balmer. He was a second year player on an already highly talented team. Through his entire prime they were never as successful.

Hey F&B — quick trivia question: Who was MVP of the league in 1983, the year the Orioles won that world series with their second year player on an already highly talented team?

Atta dinnin stick a who!

by Gould Old Days on Sep 25, 2009 5:14 AM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

This.

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by J.P. on Sep 25, 2009 7:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

Fuck off I wasn’t even 2 years old. I’m still bitter all the success was before I was sentient.

If you're after gettin' the honey, then you don't go killin' all them bees.

by Rob Parker on Sep 25, 2009 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

I love the running motif of moustache fixation at Japers’ Rink.

"My face is my mask."

by Jake Shapiro on Sep 24, 2009 11:14 AM EDT reply actions  

Tarik twittered no Nylander again tonight. I surprise the Caps aren’t even attempting to give him a chance. He very well may be a healthy scratch for 82 games.

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by Sombrero Guy on Sep 24, 2009 11:41 AM EDT reply actions  

This situation is just full of the nuts.

by DrinkingPartner on Sep 24, 2009 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

ugh…I’m surprised.

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by Sombrero Guy on Sep 24, 2009 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think the writing was on the wall after Beagle was getting the nod over Nylander last spring.

by David Getz on Sep 24, 2009 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sooner or later, if something doesn’t get resolved Nylander or his agent is going to get fed up with the situation and say something to Tarik or Corey. I doubt he’s going to allow himself to be Elba’d for another season without voicing his displeasure with Bruce.

by b.orr4 on Sep 24, 2009 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

It blows, but, honestly, I think the money he’s making is keeping him quiet. And that’s not to mention that he seems like a model teammate, all considered, too.

by DrinkingPartner on Sep 24, 2009 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey gotsparkly!

Did you see that Manny Malhotra turned down a 4 yr, 8 million dollar deal with ATL to sign a 1 year $700K deal with SJS? All this after a career year. But yeah, NHL players don’t take discounts.

If you're after gettin' the honey, then you don't go killin' all them bees.

by Rob Parker on Sep 24, 2009 1:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Hahahahahaha. AWESOME.

But no, NHL players always follow the money.

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by gotsparkly on Sep 24, 2009 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Manny Malhotra: saving Don Waddell from himself.

by David Getz on Sep 24, 2009 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

F’real. On what planet is Manny Malhotra a $2m/year guy for four years?

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by J.P. on Sep 24, 2009 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t know, but that only furthers the point. Malhotra (and his agent) have to know he’s not getting that offer again, and he still turned it down for way less money.

If you're after gettin' the honey, then you don't go killin' all them bees.

by Rob Parker on Sep 24, 2009 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Does anyone else remember when Neil Smith refused to trade Malhotra for Pavel Bure? And then traded away Malhotra for nothing and traded a bunch of talent for an old broken down Bure? Well done Neil Smith, well done.

If you're after gettin' the honey, then you don't go killin' all them bees.

by Rob Parker on Sep 24, 2009 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Apparently...

…on planet Atlanta… ya know, the one that’s in a death spiral into the sun…

Let's go Caps!

by MikeL-Pivonka on Sep 24, 2009 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

The same planet where Colton Orr is a $1m/year guy for four years.

Of all our iniquities ignorance may be the worst

by Killer_Carlson on Sep 24, 2009 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

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