Wednesday Caps Clips: 'Hawks @ Caps Gameday
by J.P. on Sep 23, 2009 6:40 AM EDT
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Your savory breakfast links:
- Expect Varly in net tonight opposite Cory Crawford.
- A little perspective on the upcoming final cuts from the guy who does "perspective" better than anyone. [Dump and Chase]
- Speaking of perspective, why John Carlson's cut isn't surprising at all. [VFtCS]
- Picking up your family and moving to a new town ain't easy (but I'm sure most of us would do it for seven figures per year). [Washington Times]
- It's now or never for Alexandre Giroux. [Washington Post]
- If there's an easier way to get page views than putting together a mildly controversial list and watching the incoming links pile up,
it's posting the Erin Andrews videoI'm not aware of it. So I'm a sucker for linking to Mike Brophy's Top 50 Players (spoiler alert: Caps place second, 29th, 33rd and 35th), and you're a sucker for clicking through. [Sportsnet.ca] - Oh, and the rationale for why Alex Ovechkin is second on that list is garbage. [Hockey or Die!]
- Understatement of the Year nominee: "Finding a way to fit veteran center Michael Nylander into the Washington Capitals lineup might be a problem for coach Bruce Boudreau and GM George McPhee this season." [The Hockey News]
- They asked some questions, we gave some answers. [DC Pro Sports Report]
- Steve Yzerman acknowledged that having Mike Babcock behind the Team Canada bench helps puck-moving defensemen trying to make the team. "We want to be a fast team, we want to be able to move the puck up the ice, and having mobile, skilled defencemen is very important to how we want to play." Mike Green... trending up. [CBC.ca]
- Speaking of the Olympics, Puck Daddy details the nuclear option for Russian players who want to play in front of their countryman in 2014, while a Canadian writer tells us why these players deserve no sympathy (a position I'm sure he'd hold if NHLers weren't allowed to play in Vancouver next year and Canada's best and brightest stars were willing to risk suspension to participate). [Puck Daddy, Cult of Hockey]
- Video from Day Two of Bears training camp, including a chat with Joe Finley (3:54 mark). [John Walton Hockey]
- Bad news out of Pittsburgh - the one Penguin you might care about got hurt last night. [Sportsnet.ca]
- Finally, happy 58th birthday to Milan Novy, probably the greatest player in NHL history to wear the number 66.
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Agree or disagree with that list (which I’m sure 101% of you disagree with), you have to admit that the whole list is flawed overall.
If you are going to make a case for Crosby as the best player in the NHL, it should be based off of the fact that he has rapidly improved his defensive zone play and his faceoff ability.
You can’t really base it off of playoff production, as Ovechkin’s is really good too. (Side note- which is why I cannot accept when a Red Wings fan tries to sell Datsyuk as the best player in the league. He has had one good playoff stretch. He has less Playoff points than Crosby in twice the games).
These lists are completely pointless and drive me nuts every time I see them. Like Uncle Ted said, you can’t compare Sid and Ovie. White Wine and a Denver Slammer…or whatever it was.
by Link_Gaetz on Sep 23, 2009 6:55 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I just wish the whole debate over who’s “better” would just go away. Its beyond trite at this point.
Ron and Fez Noon to Three
by YvonLabresMoustache on Sep 23, 2009 8:08 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree. I wish there was some sort of shorthand designation warning people not to click on links to those type of articles. Sort of like the “NSFW” designation.
by Laich It Or Lump It on Sep 23, 2009 9:03 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
SVAO?
"It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees." - Delores Ibarruri
by gotsparkly on Sep 23, 2009 9:06 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
NSFTTOTOCMD (Not Suitable For Those Tired Of The Ovechkin- Crosby-Malkin Debate)
Needs work I guess.
by Laich It Or Lump It on Sep 23, 2009 9:10 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How about...
NSFTTOTOCMDID – Not Suitable For Those Tired Of The Ovechkin- Crosby-Malkin-Datsyuk-Iginla Debate
Let's go Caps!
by MikeL-Caps on Sep 23, 2009 9:14 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Go read Peerless. He has also maxed out on the AO/St. Sidney throwdown. In fairly spectacular fashion.
IS PAЯTY NOW
by Your Nation's Capital on Sep 23, 2009 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I made the mistake of reading that at work yesterday-I was sure I was going to get caught slacking off because of my muffled laughter.
by RedBirdie on Sep 23, 2009 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That list is horrendous for so many other reasons than just the terrible justification for putting Crosby ahead of Ovechkin. Ward and Kiprusoff as the 2nd and 3rd best goalies, but Brodeur as the 8th best at 48? One Sedin at 13 and the other at 31? Corey Perry at 47 below Doan, Spezza, Vanek, Hemsky and both Sedins? I like Bobby Ryan (and hate Perry), but he doesn’t belong on this list at all, much less at #38.
To say this list is mildly controversial is putting it mildly.
Of all our iniquities ignorance may be the worst
by Killer_Carlson on Sep 23, 2009 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not to mention Green as the lowest Cap, instead of one of the top 10-15 skaters.
This guy is delusional.
by DrinkingPartner on Sep 23, 2009 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Re Datsyuk: his early playoff games were in minor roles because he was so young on a loaded DET team. But yeah, I used to kill him for disappearing in the playoffs but the last 3 seasons he’s been pretty solid in the post-season.
Re: the list. You’re right, it’s garbage. Cam Ward the second best goalie in the league? Lidstrom the 4th best D? Special Nieds buried on the chart? E. Staal that far ahead of Nash and Joe Thornton? No thanks.
If you're after gettin' the honey, then you don't go killin' all them bees.
by Fehr and Balanced on Sep 23, 2009 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How about “Crosby for Hart!” ?
by red army line on Sep 23, 2009 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can we just retire “87” league wide and beat the rush?
If you've read this far...seek help.
by ThePeerless on Sep 23, 2009 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Right up into the rafters at 30 arenas.
IS PAЯTY NOW
by Your Nation's Capital on Sep 23, 2009 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mr. Brashear’s fists might have something to say about that.
by RedBirdie on Sep 23, 2009 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why do I think that card was not a limited run error?
"Sometimes life leads a $100 bill on your dresser, and you don't realize until later that it's because it screwed you."
by Bald Pollack on Sep 23, 2009 7:28 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I’m sure that your hockey card in Russia would be some derogatory reference to a bald man from Poland. Cut Victory some slack.
by Sct112 on Sep 23, 2009 8:37 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually, mine is a tribute to Billy Ripken.
"Sometimes life leads a $100 bill on your dresser, and you don't realize until later that it's because it screwed you."
by Bald Pollack on Sep 23, 2009 8:44 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Thanks for that link. I learned something new today.
by Laich It Or Lump It on Sep 23, 2009 9:12 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ah, Billy Ripken. The wild child of the straight-laced baseball family. He’s fun to listen to, if only because you never know what he’s going to say.
by RedBirdie on Sep 23, 2009 9:23 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And because no rationale is too tenuous to justify posting this:
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Sep 23, 2009 9:26 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Touche.
"Sometimes life leads a $100 bill on your dresser, and you don't realize until later that it's because it screwed you."
by Bald Pollack on Sep 23, 2009 9:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You have to wonder if Olie actually understood that this picture was for public consumption.
by Sct112 on Sep 23, 2009 9:37 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is a guy who wore this moustache:
He doesn’t care.
Japers' Rink: Hockey blogging from the most powerful city in the world
by J.P. on Sep 23, 2009 9:39 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow, good ole days. I always forget how long Olie toiled in the minors and rode the bench before he came along and actually helped the Caps.
by Sct112 on Sep 23, 2009 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Until Jim Carey flamed out, he was always thought of as backup material.
by fat_daddyo on Sep 23, 2009 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
haha, i found that card in a box of stuff i’d brought from my parents’ house the other day – it made me smile :)
"No Brooks Laich, no win. Know Brooks Laich, know win."
by kellobellow on Sep 23, 2009 9:53 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Didn’t I see him outside a Big Boy once?
If you've read this far...seek help.
by ThePeerless on Sep 23, 2009 9:56 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
A fine dining establishment.
Signed,
V. Krutov
"Sometimes life leads a $100 bill on your dresser, and you don't realize until later that it's because it screwed you."
by Bald Pollack on Sep 23, 2009 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not to be picky or anything J.P., but don’t you mean “Wednesday”?
by kfjje on Sep 23, 2009 7:41 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Thanks
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by J.P. on Sep 23, 2009 7:53 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
There is no denying Ovie is the most entertaining player in the NHL and a great ambassador for the sport, but what separates The Gr8 One from Sid the Kid is winning. Ovechkin has two Hart Trophies, but Sid’s Stanley Cup trumps it. To win, Ovechkin needs to use his teammates better in the crunch and not try to do it all himself.
Here is the flaw in the logic. Sidney Crosby and Evgeni Malkin do not play on the same line, unless Dan Bylsma needs a spark. That said, if Evgeni Malkin didn’t find his game late in the series against the Caps or carry that over into the rest of the playoffs, we’re not having this conversation, because Sidney Crosby would have no Cup.
Malkin was the Conn Smythe winner for a reason, and he deserved it. Does he go to the top of the list and Crosby to third?
If you've read this far...seek help.
by ThePeerless on Sep 23, 2009 8:32 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
When Brophy says “he won the Cup, so he’s better” what he really means is “He’s Canadian and he’s ours, so he’s better”. Remember, these are the same guys who annointed Crosby before he ever played a game and they’ve been looking for a way to salvage their reputations ever since. If anybody should really be upset, it’s Malkin. He had a better season than Crosby and a better post-season. If he were a good old western Canadian boy would there be any question who was the best player on the Penguins?
by b.orr4 on Sep 23, 2009 9:24 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Brophy’s list looks like he made a list and then bumped each Canadian up between three and five spots.
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by J.P. on Sep 23, 2009 9:35 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If anybody should really be upset, it’s Malkin. He had a better season than Crosby and a better post-season. If he were a good old western Canadian boy would there be any question who was the best player on the Penguins?
Maybe he needs to change his first name to “Brendan.”
If you've read this far...seek help.
by ThePeerless on Sep 23, 2009 9:51 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
happy 58th birthday to Milan Novy, probably the greatest player in NHL history to wear the number 66.
“probably”? No question.
by Uncle C on Sep 23, 2009 8:41 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
For a time he was...
…he wore #66 before that Mario guy did. We should lobby the district to get F Street in front of the arena named “Milan Novy Place” and have the Phone Booth’s address be 66 Milan Novy Place.
Wait, I think some other city did that already…. nevermind…
Let's go Caps!
by MikeL-Caps on Sep 23, 2009 9:12 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Off topic, unless “numbers” is the theme… I heard somewhere that there is an idea floating around to do a “Gretzky” in the NBA and retire “23” league wide.
If you've read this far...seek help.
by ThePeerless on Sep 23, 2009 9:53 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
There’s a point where MJ’s ego will be so large that it disturbs the gravity of our Earth-Moon system and will destroy us all. Please don’t let this happen.
"I am... *grins* ... 'Nobody' "
- Odysseus
by war_capitals on Sep 23, 2009 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Given the brouhaha over his Hall induction speech (which I don’t care enough to actually find the text of), I like this analogy.
by gfcaps fan on Sep 23, 2009 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m surprised some of the Wizards that he briefly saw on the court aren’t on here rec’ing this. I’m sure I don’t even know the half of it, sadly…
"I am... *grins* ... 'Nobody' "
- Odysseus
by war_capitals on Sep 23, 2009 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You can see throughout camp that there are some guys who are going to be ready. They’re not quite ready right now, but could be ready in a month or so. They may need to go down while you do some other things and create some space for them.
GMGM talking about anyone specifically? Alzner? Sloan?
by Sct112 on Sep 23, 2009 8:44 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Sloan has a one way contract right? If sloan gets pushed to waivers…what are the odds some team might pick him up?
by aaw6848 on Sep 23, 2009 9:24 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
There was some conversation about this yesterday. He was signed to a contract this year, so every NHL team had the option to go after him. I’m not saying he won’t be picked up, but everyone else has already passed on him this summer.
by Sct112 on Sep 23, 2009 9:26 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just to clarify, Sloan was on an NHL contract last season and re-upped with the Caps before the season ended, so no he was not on the FA market this past summer. Perhaps you are thinking of Giroux.
by sk84fun_dc on Sep 23, 2009 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ahh… right…. I. was. talking. about. Giroux.
Thanks.
by Sct112 on Sep 23, 2009 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Sloan would be most likely, although its possible he’s referring to the glut of forwards who are being caught in the numbers game.
I like Alzner, I really like this kid because he seems to be such a genuinely warm person who puts everyone before himself, and I’d love to see that dedication to his teammates rewarded, but I don’t see the harm in letting him gain a little more experience in Hershey.
by RedBirdie on Sep 23, 2009 9:26 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I had a different take, and think it’s Alzner he’s talking about. Sloan is as ready as he’s ever going to be. He’s older. He’s not coming off a concussion that forced him to miss most of the playoffs. Alzner, on the other hand…
And you don’t have to create much (if any) room for Sloan (contract-wise, at least), whereas you do for Alzner. But maybe the “space” he’s talking about is a roster spot. Still, the shuttling up and down implication here points towards someone who doesn’t have to pass through waivers, imo.
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by J.P. on Sep 23, 2009 9:38 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The last sentence was what really struck me.Creating room definitely seems like he’s talking about one of last years Dmen being shipped off and replaced by someone (I agree that its likely Alzner).
by Sct112 on Sep 23, 2009 9:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree I don’t think he was talking about Sloan specifically, but I didn’t read that as only being about Alzner, although it sounds to me that is the general consensus here and elsewhere. In general, there are a few prospects fighting for playing time at the NHL level and some logjams in the way both in terms of simple roster spots on the 23 player active roster, playing time, and overall cap space. I agree that in these circumstances players that are waiver-exempt are going to lose out for the short-term all else being equal.
On D, I do think it is time if a decent to good trade can be made to move out someone like Jurcina.
And fwiw, at the moment, it appears they are going to use bonus cushion space (from Backstrom’s contract) and the LTIR exception for Fleischmann if they plan to carry 23 players to start the season. Doing the math with 23 players (for these purposes I included Aucoin and Bourque), using Alzner’s bonus cushion space, too, there is room for Alzner on the roster if that is what they wanted to start the season. Of course, if the plan is to trade a dman, it might help to be playing the guy.
by sk84fun_dc on Sep 23, 2009 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fehr goes back to the doctors this week, iirc. Depending on his progress, he may end up on LTIR, opening up yet another spot, temporarily.
by RedBirdie on Sep 23, 2009 10:07 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fehr on IR opens up a roster spot; Fehr on LTIR opens up some temporary $.
For now, I have been assuming Fehr starts on IR but not on LTIR. Regardless, when he is ready to return, the roster spot has to be available.
The numbers that I referenced in my post above include Fehr on IR and Fleischmann on LTIR, plus 2 goalies, 8 dmen, and 13 forwards. The other scenario is 2 goalies, 7 dmen, and 14 forwards.
OT: Seems unlikely at this time that they would choose to carry 22 players on the active roster given the roster battles and waiver issues, although it is within the rules to do so.
by sk84fun_dc on Sep 23, 2009 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Technically, there is room for Alzner if Fleischmann starts on LTIR and they plan to use bonus cushion space,however, it is not ideal to use that bonus cushion in terms of future repercussions, so minimizing the bonus cushion $s would be ideal.
by sk84fun_dc on Sep 23, 2009 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Anyone know the details of the terms of the bonuses? If some of the bonus is very unlikely to be paid, then you don’t have to worry about it much…
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Sep 23, 2009 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah you do – until a bonus is technically impossible to achieve, it counts in a player’s cap hit.
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by J.P. on Sep 23, 2009 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Right, but what I think GOD is saying is that if Alzner isn’t going to reach his bonuses we can use the bonus cushion now knowing that it won’t come out of next year’s cap hit because it won’t be realized. This is correct right? Even if a team is using the bonus cushion they don’t lose cap space the next year unless those bonuses are actually reached.
If you're after gettin' the honey, then you don't go killin' all them bees.
by Fehr and Balanced on Sep 23, 2009 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That’s what I was saying. Last year there was no discretion b/c players had the option to opt out of the CBA — this year there is discretion. So if you know a player won’t hit a bonus threshold, you can allocate that salary to others with no worries.
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Sep 23, 2009 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, word. And yeah, my understanding is that the only way you lose cap space is if the bonuses are actually reached.
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by J.P. on Sep 23, 2009 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
my response to the clown Peter Adler/Cult of Hockey...enjoy.
Wow…first, the NHL hasn’t said that NHL players cannot participate in the 2014 Olympics. they just don’t have an agreement…yet.
second, your analogy regarding the bricklayer and the brother-in-law is bogus, on a number of different levels. First, the Russian contingent has informed their “employer” of their intentions approximately five years in advance. They’re not “waking up one beautiful morning”, and deciding to blow off work to help thier brother-in-law. Second, unlike the Olympics in 2014, the dates of which have already been set, the opportunity to assist the brother-in-law with his fence will be there tomorrow, and the day after. The Olympics will not. This is a once in a lifetime opportunity for the Russian players to perform in the Olympics before their own countrymen. As that opportunity is being gleefully granted to Crosby, Thornton, Lecavilier, Iginla, et al, when the Olympics are hosted in Canada, should not the Russian players get that same opportunity when the Olympics are hosted in their homeland?
Of course, I am forgetting that privilege belongs to Canadians and Canadians alone with regards to the sport of hockey. And by remembering that, a lot of the xenophobic nonsense I just read in this article is explained. And the attempt to justify if under an economic pretense is insulting, much less very discrediting to the writer. The cold war’s over, dude.
…game, set, match.
by shotfromthepoint on Sep 23, 2009 9:36 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Totally. And the NHL had better be paying this the attention that it deserves. If ever there was an issue that could tilt Russian players into “defecting” to the KHL over the issue of ultimate loyalty, it would be this one. I know most of us think this isn’t big enough to force that sort of calamitous outcome, but I’m a little worried.
And a rec for this line alone… it sums up the unfairness of it all perfectly:
As that opportunity is being gleefully granted to Crosby, Thornton, Lecavilier, Iginla, et al, when the Olympics are hosted in Canada, should not the Russian players get that same opportunity when the Olympics are hosted in their homeland?
"I am... *grins* ... 'Nobody' "
- Odysseus
by war_capitals on Sep 23, 2009 9:47 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Until guys stop getting carried off the ice like sacks of potatoes I don’t think the top level NHL Russians (all that remain?) are going to defect to the KHL.
If you're after gettin' the honey, then you don't go killin' all them bees.
by Fehr and Balanced on Sep 23, 2009 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Until guys stop getting carried off the ice like sacks of potatoes
What are you referring too?
by Sct112 on Sep 23, 2009 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Paul Kariya’s kid brother got knocked out in a game recently, and in place of a stretcher, they hauled him off the ice on a tarp.
by fat_daddyo on Sep 23, 2009 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Seriously? Damn… where’s Keyshawn when you need him?
“C’MON, MAN!!!”
"I am... *grins* ... 'Nobody' "
- Odysseus
by war_capitals on Sep 23, 2009 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Man, they were so close to having a stretcher. It’s a hockey rink, they couldn’t attach a couple of sticks to that tarp?
Of all our iniquities ignorance may be the worst
by Killer_Carlson on Sep 23, 2009 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have a book that shows you how to make an emergency stretcher sled out of hockey sticks.
Comment first, think second, read third.
by zephyr on Sep 23, 2009 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Brendan Morrison’s a writer?
"Sometimes life leads a $100 bill on your dresser, and you don't realize until later that it's because it screwed you."
by Bald Pollack on Sep 23, 2009 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is that the book that tells you all the stuff you can make from broken hockey sticks?
If you're after gettin' the honey, then you don't go killin' all them bees.
by Fehr and Balanced on Sep 23, 2009 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
One of the comments below the article really hit it on the head for me. He said something to the effect of: Its not in the best interest of the employer to fire the bricklayer. The bricklayer is so much better at his job than everyone else that firing him, or docking his pay, is really just cutting off your nose to spite your face. Its a powerplay that the NHL owners (at least those with superstar Russians) can’t win.
Ted and Mario might be upset when Malkin and Ovie head off to Socchi for the Olympics, but I can see them paying the fine for these guys if the NHL puts its foot down.
by Sct112 on Sep 23, 2009 9:52 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yea, I thought the bricklayer analogy was fundamentally flawed as well. If a bricklayer is fired, it’s relatively easy to find a replacement with roughly the same skill set. This is not the case with the world’s best hockey players.
A better analogy would be commissioning a work of art from a world renown artist and then trying to tell the artist he/she can’t work on other projects. If you want that artist’s work badly enough, you have to be flexible.
by Laich It Or Lump It on Sep 23, 2009 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You’re forgetting that if the NHL just doesn’t go to Sochi the Canadians have an excuse to lose. “Well our best players weren’t there and they iced a KHL all star team, it happens.”
If you're after gettin' the honey, then you don't go killin' all them bees.
by Fehr and Balanced on Sep 23, 2009 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
My money is on "never" for Giroux
Although he might sneak in, I’m thinking Perrault and Laing.
by S h a g g y on Sep 23, 2009 9:37 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
but don’t you want giroux to be the man so bad? I do. Any guy that can put in 60 goals in the AHL should be able to put in at least 30 in the NHL…regardless of preseason..give the kid a chance and some confidence, let him relax a little bit – find his hands and then we’ll see what he’s got..my vote is for keeping giroux around throw him in for flash
by aaw6848 on Sep 23, 2009 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So what does Steckel’s 30 goals in the AHL translate into at the NHL?
If you're after gettin' the honey, then you don't go killin' all them bees.
by Fehr and Balanced on Sep 23, 2009 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
steckel isn’t a ‘scorer’ i think, even at the AHL level – there is a huge difference between 60 and 30….also. i dont think it would be out of the question to think Steckel could pot 15 on average.
by aaw6848 on Sep 23, 2009 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
now that his finger isn’t all mangled, watch out NHL, Steckel’s gonna pot 60 goals!
by RedBirdie on Sep 23, 2009 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hope he doesn’t – I’d like to be able to afford to re-sign him at the end of this season, thanks.
"It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees." - Delores Ibarruri
by gotsparkly on Sep 23, 2009 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’d take the 60 goals this season and into the playoffs. Seems like the Caps would be a lock for the cup.
Comment first, think second, read third.
by zephyr on Sep 23, 2009 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But-but-but the Caps have no defense!
"It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees." - Delores Ibarruri
by gotsparkly on Sep 23, 2009 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Except you forget how much Steckel would hurt the team by scoring 60 goals. He can only do that by not passing and playing selfish hockey, which ultimately contributes to more team Ls than Ws.
If you're after gettin' the honey, then you don't go killin' all them bees.
by Fehr and Balanced on Sep 23, 2009 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Are we really arguing over whether we would take it if a 3rd liner suddenly managed to score 60 goals?
YES, I’LL TAKE IT! (Ain’t gonna happen, but it’d be awesome. Brady Anderson just shakes his head)
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Sep 23, 2009 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was being real sarcastic invoking one of the most famous anti-AO arguments.
If you're after gettin' the honey, then you don't go killin' all them bees.
by Fehr and Balanced on Sep 23, 2009 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah. Classic AAAA player at this point. Unless he can find the “magic elixir” that, say, Robinson Cano used to become an impact big leaguer, he’s not going to pan out.
by fat_daddyo on Sep 23, 2009 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
shaggy, think you’ve nailed this one…Monday night, I saw nothing that would indicate that Giroux could succeed over the course of a year at the NHL level – I just didn’t see it. And I certainly didn’t see how he could prosper on a line with Semin. A beast at the AHL level, no question, but the NHL? I don’t think so.
by shotfromthepoint on Sep 23, 2009 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Without having watched him closely enough at either level, I wonder what it is about the jump to the NHL that completely shuts his scoring touch off? Are the Dmen just that much better positionally up here that he can’t work his usual magic?
"I am... *grins* ... 'Nobody' "
- Odysseus
by war_capitals on Sep 23, 2009 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, I think it’s the goalies. He gets tons of breakaways and cherrypicks, but just can’t finish.
"It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees." - Delores Ibarruri
by gotsparkly on Sep 23, 2009 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think he’s a headcase.
Comment first, think second, read third.
by zephyr on Sep 23, 2009 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think it’s a combination of all answers (probably including Z’s as well). The D are better at closing off the open ice and giving him less time and space; the goalies are better at reading the plays and making the saves.
If you're after gettin' the honey, then you don't go killin' all them bees.
by Fehr and Balanced on Sep 23, 2009 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
JP too bad this recent interview with Beagle didn’t make the clips …from the next line he appeared to be referring to the hockey fans, but this quote was amusing to read:
“… What do you recall from your time in Boise? BEAGLE: It seemed like an NHL town.”
http://www.idahosteelheads.com/fan-zone/blog.aspx?bloggerid=114
by sk84fun_dc on Sep 23, 2009 10:01 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I actually emailed Mike Brophy and he told me that Youngblood, Point Break, Bill and Ted’s Excellent Adventure, Speed, and the Matrix are proof positive that Keanu Reeves is in fact an elite actor.
Seems odd that Malkin doesn’t get the Cup + Conn Smythe bump but Crosby gets the Cup bump (from behind?). Looks to me more like a Canadian bump than a Cup bump.
If you're after gettin' the honey, then you don't go killin' all them bees.
by Fehr and Balanced on Sep 23, 2009 10:11 AM EDT reply actions 2 recs
you mean canadians prefer good clean cut canadian boys playing THEIR great game of hockey? instead of those wild-child russians with their funny hats and bad attitudes?
by aaw6848 on Sep 23, 2009 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
To be absolutely fair, Bill and Ted is one of the marquee movies of all time.
by DrinkingPartner on Sep 23, 2009 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You killed Ted, you medieval dickweed!
by fat_daddyo on Sep 23, 2009 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So-crates – “The only true wisdom consists in knowing that you know nothing”.
by MetalCap on Sep 23, 2009 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
“Dude, it’s a history report, not a babe report”
“Yeah, but, dude, those are historical babes”
by fat_daddyo on Sep 23, 2009 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You think our own Mr. Greenlife52 has read this?
(“Yes, Silky can read.”) Pimp My Bed: The Male Sleep Lair, in today’s Wall Street Journal
by Uncle C on Sep 23, 2009 10:44 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Can we expect to see another online broadcast of the game tonight? i’d be very, very, very happy if we could.
It’d also be nice if NHL.tv got off their asses and actually made sure their streams worked for everybody.
by DrinkingPartner on Sep 23, 2009 10:55 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
from TEB, tonight’s provisional lineup
Forwards
Ovechkin, Knuble, Backstrom, Semin, Laich, B. Gordon, Clark, Laing, Osala, A. Gordon, Perreault, Wilson and Sugden
Defense
Green, Morrisonn, Pothier, Poti, Jurcina, Sloan
Goalies
Varlamov, Neuvirth
The Sloan Fan Club and Perreault lobby, respectively, are happy with this.
by RedBirdie on Sep 23, 2009 11:12 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
"Dress Rehearsal"??
Not with Wilson, Perreault, Gordon, and Osala in the lineup.
(I assume Sugden sits, unless the ’Hawks are dressing a goon lineup.)
Don’t know that you can read anything into this, really.
by fat_daddyo on Sep 23, 2009 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dress Rehearsal starts Thursday.
"It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees." - Delores Ibarruri
by gotsparkly on Sep 23, 2009 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Damn, I need more sleep…thought today was Thursday until your comment.
by fat_daddyo on Sep 23, 2009 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
grins Don’t we all wish?
"It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees." - Delores Ibarruri
by gotsparkly on Sep 23, 2009 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
games notes just arrived, looks like Sugden will sit. I don’t know the Hawks well enough to say if the team on the ice tonight is 90-100% NHLers, but all the big names that I recognize are there.
Newly-bald Tara Wheeler (you may know her as Miss Virginia) will sing the anthem tonight
by RedBirdie on Sep 23, 2009 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow, she looks super hot bald. Maybe better than with hair.
Comment first, think second, read third.
by zephyr on Sep 23, 2009 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I give her serious props for how she’s managed to parlay her pagent status into a public profile and a career. Not many people can start out as a guest on Comcast Sportsnet, beg for a job, and then get one. I’m not saying it won’t turn out to be a good move for both her and the network, but still, nice work.
by gfcaps fan on Sep 23, 2009 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I believe Tara is still accepting donations for St. Baldrick’s, if anyone is interested.
by RedBirdie on Sep 23, 2009 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Smokin’. Good to see Sugden and Laing, too.
Looking at that D, though, I’m thinking that the King could be headed for Hershey if Sloan is solid tonight.
"It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees." - Delores Ibarruri
by gotsparkly on Sep 23, 2009 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tix for tonight?
I have to attend a meeting that runs up to game time. Anyone want my tickets?
I have posted them on Craigslist, ticketexchange will not let me post for less than face value….which for preseason is silly.
Promote the game, it's the NHL, not SCHL
by kurlNdrag on Sep 23, 2009 11:16 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
join the Japers’ Rink ticket exchange!
by RedBirdie on Sep 23, 2009 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ohh good, this group has set one up? i saw something from the caps about getting hooked up with other people…so I take it I just spell it out as such?
Promote the game, it's the NHL, not SCHL
by kurlNdrag on Sep 23, 2009 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
never mind, found the email… answered my own question
Promote the game, it's the NHL, not SCHL
by kurlNdrag on Sep 23, 2009 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yup, it’s here.
JP, you’ve got to get this link into the Vault.
"It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees." - Delores Ibarruri
by gotsparkly on Sep 23, 2009 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t “got to” do anything… but it’s on the agenda.
Japers' Rink: Hockey blogging from the most powerful city in the world
by J.P. on Sep 23, 2009 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
sorry, was thinking it was in affiliation with Ticket partner program email. Is there a group name there?
Promote the game, it's the NHL, not SCHL
by kurlNdrag on Sep 23, 2009 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
sorry, bad link…
http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/nva/tix/1388361151.html
Promote the game, it's the NHL, not SCHL
by kurlNdrag on Sep 23, 2009 11:17 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Vegas likes the Caps
Vegas put the Caps first overall in the East, albeit with a decline in total points.
by fat_daddyo on Sep 23, 2009 11:56 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Deal!
We’ll take that overwhelming advantage of home ice in a game sev… oh, wait.
"I am... *grins* ... 'Nobody' "
- Odysseus
by war_capitals on Sep 23, 2009 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
While I appreciate the marketing ploy of Get Ready…..It’s our time camp opener t-shirts….
my new T-shirt idea for this year is: No More Game 7’s
Promote the game, it's the NHL, not SCHL
by kurlNdrag on Sep 23, 2009 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I second no more Game 7s. My heart can’t take ‘em anymore, I’m I’m not yet 30.
by RedBirdie on Sep 23, 2009 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
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Southeast Standings
| GP | W | L | OTL | PT | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Washington
|
21 | 13 | 4 | 4 | 30 |
|
Tampa Bay
|
19 | 8 | 4 | 7 | 23 |
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Atlanta
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18 | 10 | 6 | 2 | 22 |
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Florida
|
19 | 8 | 9 | 2 | 18 |
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Carolina
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21 | 4 | 12 | 5 | 13 |
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