Captain Comeback?
At long last, after almost two calendar years, Captain Chris Clark (the undisputed captain of the team, mind you) reports that he's at full strength. We heard that pronouncement prior to last fall's training camp as well, but with a new season comes renewed optimism.
But just how optimistic should we be?
There remains this sentiment, which is admittedly appropriate for the start of camp, that Clark may still, summer veteran additions to the club notwithstanding, have a 20-30 goal scoring line season in him. While that may be overly optimistic in a sense, it's not difficult to imagine Clark becoming something more valuable: an anchor; a solid foundation for a checking line befitting a legitimate Stanley Cup contender.
Clark scored exactly 10 goals in each of his last three seasons in Calgary, prior to his trade to Washington (one of GM George McPhee's better swaps, no doubt). His tenure in Cowtown was capped gloriously in the spring of 2004, albeit with a bittersweet ending, by playing significant shut-down minutes, mostly with Stephane Yelle, Ville Nieminen, and sometimes Martin Gelinas, throughout a greuling 26-game playoff slate. Within one game of the Prize.
In the 2004 Cup Finals, Clarkie averaged about 13:50 TOI in the six games not settled in overtime, and nearly 21 minutes in 2OT Game Six (which lasted four 20 minute sessions and an extra :33 to await Martin St. Louis's game winner). Notably, he finished even or plus in all but four of the 26 playoff games in which he skated that spring. Same as Jarome Iginla in that department. Clark also added some modest offense: three goals (one on the power play) and three assists.
For the first time in his Capitals tenure, Clark will be counted on in a full time role as checking winger upon his return. And just at the right time.
Said Coach Boudreau, in discussing Clark's return to health: "We've been talking about that for a year and a half . . . You've got a guy that's hungry."
Clark said earlier this week:
"If I'm on a shutdown line, that's been my game all along before I got here when I was in Calgary. I could easily go back to that role. It is something where if it doesn't work out, there can always be changes down the road and I can work back into it another way."
Every championship club needs a solid checking unit anchored by a leader with a strong net presence, an ability to rattle opposing D in the crease and in the corners, a willingness to sacrifice at a level many hockey players never experience, and some decent hands. And one who is healthy enough to fully unload on his shot and skate to his limit. The guy that McPhee saw when he brought #17 into the fold back in August of 2005.
The Caps don't need another scoring line winger to put them over the top. They need Chris Clark. Here's hoping.
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He’s looked solid this week, that’s for sure. And kudos to J.P. for the subtlest of teases to Pepper’s post in the last thread.
"Why the [frak] would I live to 100? I'm 73 and [stuff's] starting to get boring. By the way, there's no money left when I go, just FYI."
We are of one, sound mind around here ;) Seamless.
by Stephen Pepper on Sep 16, 2009 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions
So if we set the over/under for Chris Clark 2009-10 regular season goals at lucky 13, what’s everybody got?
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I’ll take the under, though not by much.
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by Bald Pollack on Sep 16, 2009 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Me too. It’d be tough to score a dozen goals without any PP time (assumption) to begin with. Factor in health… I’m thinking 10 or 11.
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(Which, now that I look at it, is exactly what Peerless has, too, and we know about his prognosticating skills.)
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I learned my lesson on third liners the year I had the Caps third line potting a combined 50 goals.
If you've read this far...seek help.
I’m optimistic (which is amazing since I’m also a Redskins fan), so I’ll take the over. Would like to see the Caps acutally use two lines on the PP this year, and maybe the captain can sit in front of the goalie on the 2nd one.
by HateOffSeason on Sep 16, 2009 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Conversely, I’d take the over, though not by much. To me, it’s more a matter of can the defense get shots through to the goal. If they can — and a full season of Pothier may help — there should be enough garbage for him to pot 13-15 methinks.
by ThreePingPost on Sep 16, 2009 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions
True, but the criteria was ‘regular season’ and, knowing Boudreau, who knows who he may role on the 2nd PP unit. Though Clark would surely be a longshot on that front at the moment.
by ThreePingPost on Sep 16, 2009 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions
True, but occasional PP time (spot duty for Laich), with a few garbage goals resulting, might get him there. I’d still take the under.
by Stephen Pepper on Sep 16, 2009 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Under, and by a good bit. I’m skeptical he remains healthy.
Assuming good health, still under – say, 8 – 10.
Funny — health is the reason athat I’ll take the over. I’m wagering Flash and Fehr miss more time than we’d expect, and Clark is a 2nd liner for several weeks — enough to give him the boost up past 13.
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Sep 17, 2009 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions
I love Clark as a checking line guy. He’s always been a get dirty kind of player and if he can bring a bit of touch to the 3rd/4th line it will be a great thing.
Also, it can’t hurt that he’d be keeping the minutes down on those weary bones right?
Agreed. Even during his 30-goal season, I was always thinking, “Chris Clark isn’t a first-line winger on a contender, but he sure would be a nice checker on one.” Hopefully, we get to see if we’re right about that.
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I dont get it
Why do the Caps need Chris Clark to win the Cup? After all, he was ranked 27th most valuable Cap, after luminaries like Osala and Bourque.
If he was so critical to the Caps’ Cup chances, why wasn’t he ranked higher?
This obviously reduces to contrast in the Chris Clark of the past 2 lost seasons vs. his career years playing on Ovie’s line.
IMO, you believe what he can do now, vs what he did in the past. I had him ranked much higher than the majority of voters, based on his skills in the here and now. If he was a stock, as we say in the investment biz, you dont look at the trailing earnings, but project where you think he might produce, THEN rank him. Like a stock.
Hey, maybe that should be a fanpost: “Shaggy’s Capital Gains: Stock Tips to Savor with a Hockey Flavor”
Dude, give it a frakkin’ rest on the rankings – they’re about asset management, whereas this is about current and near-term performance. The latter informs the former, but it doesn’t comprise it in its entirety.
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If he was a stock, as we say in the investment biz, you dont look at the trailing earnings, but project where you think he might produce, THEN rank him. Like a stock.
That depends on the time frame. Obviously in some situations you lose greater total production (in the form of future production) in order to gain short term production in your pursuit of the Cup, which is why you see prospects traded for vets every year.
I’ll happily take 10 goals and an upgrade on the fourth line from 87. Stanley cup experience, heart, leadership…couldn’t agree more that every true contender needs what Chris Clark’s got…when healthy.
If Clark stays healthy all year and is treated as Brash’s replacement, that’s a big upgrade, in my book. I’ve personally thought the strongest lower-two lines the Caps could field right now look like:
Laich – Steckel – Fehr(Bourque)
Bradley – Gordon – Clark
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by winterion on Sep 16, 2009 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Your keyboard to $DEITY’s ears.
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A mechanically-generated variable expression? (Or, a constant, maybe, with the all-caps convention?)
When does the awesome end with you?
I need to start researching cloning methods.
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That’s clearly a UNIX environment variable, and its value depends on where the server is… LOL Full of awesome though, I giggle uncontrollably every time she throws one of those in there…
Props to DMG as well, let’s all hope he’s right that those guys are our Holmstroms and Maltbys…
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- Odysseus
by war_capitals on Sep 16, 2009 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Yup, it is indeed a UNIX environment variable. I’m glad you appreciate :) bows
"It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees." - Delores Ibarruri
Diggin’ Laich, Stecks and Fehr together.
by Direction 87 on Sep 16, 2009 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions
And I’m digging the avatar. I just recently lost my grandfather, and he was a veteran of the battle. In the days following his passing, I was talking with families of other Marines.. it’s really a humbling and enlightening experience all at once.
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Nice. In the fall and winter, when the leaves are off the trees, I can see the memorial out my office window (and drive past it on the way in every morning). One of the perks.
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I dig the unconventional angle on the shot too. Would have been too easy to replicate the famous photo…
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Sep 17, 2009 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t think our 3rd line was the problem in the playoffs. I thought that line was the second best line we had. Our biggest problem was the lack of a second line. I am excited about what Clark could bring to the team but I don’t think he’s the missing piece or a solution to our biggest problem.
A man must have a code.
lack of a second line
Which second line, exactly? The Ovie – Feds – Kozzie one or the Semin – Backs – Flash one?
by DrinkingPartner on Sep 16, 2009 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Against the Pens Backstrom was with AO for the most part so I mean Semin/Feds/Flash or whatever the second line of the moment was. None of the pairings worked. Part of it was that Semin was hurt so he couldn’t be his normal self, but part of it was the lack of a forward that was willing and able to get in on a forecheck, punish the Pens’ D, and create some offense.
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And Knuble is that guy, no? Although it seems most people have slotted him in on the first line.
by Laich It Or Lump It on Sep 16, 2009 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions
It seems silly not to put Knuble, whom narrative pens as the team’s best rebound finisher and net crasher, on the same line as a guy who seriously threatened Esposito’s shot record, unless they really don’t click as a line.
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Yea, consensus seems to be he is on the first line, although Boudreau is content with putting anyone anywhere as he sees fit. I was just saying he fit the description of what F&B was describing.
by Laich It Or Lump It on Sep 16, 2009 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Not that you’re wrong, but 2 of AO’s assists went to Boyd Gordon and Kyle Wilson after partial line changes.
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I actually think that that semi-accurate shot of Ovi’s makes that whole line more dangerous when you put a net-crasher / garbageman on the line.
BTW – anyone else watching the Boston / Toronto game on NHL Network? Toronto is playing with a whole lot more nasty than last year, as expected, but again as expected, they’re not crashing the net much and they’re not generating a lot of offense.
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I know. Nothing I said is a shock. I get the impression that the Bruins took a frame to get up to speed and actually get their heads in the game. Maybe they thought TOR would be easy? But once they got going, they’re dominating puck possession and getting better chances.
"It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees." - Delores Ibarruri
That said, TOR’s passes seem to be more accurate than they were last year and they have more speed as well as more size.
"It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees." - Delores Ibarruri
They are definitely a better team. If they get solid goaltending they could challenge for a playoff spot. I don’t think they’ll get one but they are not going to be a push over this year, that’s for sure.
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I think between Gus and Tosk they should have solid goaltending.
Comment first, think second, read third.
I’m not ready to buy into the Gus hype yet and Toskala had a pretty horrid year last season. Of all things goaltending is most unpredictable.
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After reading this: http://www.pensionplanpuppets.com/2009/9/16/1034074/no-more-toskala
I guess I should have said Gus & MacDonald.
Comment first, think second, read third.
That said, TOR’s passes seem to be more accurate than they were last year and they have more speed as well as more size.
I’m really looking forward to Leafs-Habs games this year. Talk about testing two different philosophies for how to play the game.
Mssrs Gionta, Gomez and Camilleri, meet Mr. Komisarek…
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Sep 17, 2009 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m casually watching. TOR is definitely going to be nasty this year but most of the nastiness is on the blueline so I don’t expect them to be striking fear into the hearts of opposing goalies.
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No. Toskala didn’t see that much, though – 14 shots in 30 minutes of work, and not a whole lot of repeat chances. They’re blueline looks pretty good right now. Again, expected from a Brian Burke team.
They’re also spending a lot of time in the box. Again, expected.
In short, Toronto is pretty much as advertised, at least for this game.
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Yeah you know the Brian Burke Blueprint. Mean and hard to play against, there is a little bit of offensive talent in the system but he’ll just accumulate that through the next few drafts and continue to sign hard nosed players. I think he did a real good job this off-season. I’d like Komisarek or Beauchemin at those contracts.
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Yup. He knew what he wanted and he went after it. They’re definitely faster than they were last year and Nazem Kadri is looking pretty good. (He’s an interesting case.)
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Yeah they definitely have more speed this year. It’ll be interesting to see how it all plays out. I doubt Kadri is going to make the team this year but he’s looked pretty good so far. Sorry to bail on you GS, but I’m off to hockey.
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Do you see Burke being interested in any of the guys that we might drop onto waivers?
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Maybe, but without looking it up I’m pretty sure TOR has a glut of NHL capable D as well. The two guys that I think GMGM would be willing to expose to waivers are Sloan and Collins and I don’t know that Burke would really be interested in either because they aren’t really an upgrade on what they have already.
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It’s more than just a single guy, but I do think that Knuble is a significant upgrade over Kozlov and that, if his legs are back, BMo is an upgrade over Fedorov offensively at this stage in their careers (defensively I think the best we can hope for from BMo is to match what Fedorov did). Fedorov didn’t have the legs to push the play and be in on a forecheck anymore. He is still smart and defensively reliable but wasn’t able to create as much.
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