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Wednesday Caps Clips: Ken Klee Hangs 'Em Up

via the shoebox next to my desk

via the shoebox next to my desk

Your savory breakfast links:

  • Ken Klee is calling it a career. Klee - a ninth round pick for the Caps back in 1990 - played 570 games for the team, totalling 43 goals, 68 assists, a plus-13 rating and 608 penalty minutes. Godspeed, Kenny.
  • Michael Nylander? Not happy. The Caps? Not happy. Oilers fans? Happy. [The Cult of Hockey]
  • It's August and McFarlane Toys' NHL Series 22 is out, featuring the line's third Alex Ovechkin figure. [Spawn.com]
  • A TV station in Seattle is apologizing for Jose Theodore's 2008-09 season. [KING5.com]
  • A look at the sweaters (or at least sweater numbers) Brendan Morrison and Mike Knuble will be wearing. [VFtCS]
  • Red Rockers tryouts, Day 1. [Caps365 (video)]
  • "The NHL has sent out a memo that it will not honor NHL contract for a player injured at a summer Olympic training camp." [@walsha]
  • The Hershey Bears released their preseason schedule. [John Walton Hockey]
  • On the off-chance that you care what Sean Avery thinks of new teammate Donald Brashear, this link's for you. [Blue Notes]
  • Finally, Happy 46th Birthday to Mike Siltala and Happy 33rd to Jeff Friesen. Friesen played just 33 games for the Caps, tallying three goals and four assists before being traded to Anaheim for the second round pick that the Caps used on Keith Seabrook in 2006. Maybe things would've been different if Friesen hadn't angered the hockey gods by donning number twelve when he got to town (or if that Caps team hadn't stunk to high hell... either/or).

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I wonder if that Walsh tweet may be the precursor of whatever the future CBA covering the ’14 cycle might bring.

"The passion of our supporters cannot be contained by clothing."

by Bald Pollack on Aug 5, 2009 7:23 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Walsh tweets further:

“As follow up, found out NHL teams directed to suspend and not pay any player injured in Summer Olympic Orientation camp.”

“Team Canada exhibition game…what happens to seriously injured player? NHL benefits w Olympic participation and players bear all risk!”

“CBA guarantee’s player contracts during Olympics. NHL claims summer training camp not meant to be covered per CBA.”

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by J.P. on Aug 5, 2009 7:29 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oy.

"The passion of our supporters cannot be contained by clothing."

by Bald Pollack on Aug 5, 2009 8:09 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Serious injuries during the Olympics aren’t all that common, are they? Does the NHL actually have ground to stand on in this regard, or is it just Bettman marking his territory?

by Murshawursha on Aug 5, 2009 8:11 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If team’s have the right to prohibit their players from participating in the summer camps due to their contractual obligations (and that’s the big if here I gather) then there’s no reason they can’t suspend them for going against that.

by brs03 on Aug 5, 2009 8:14 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I would suppose that depends if there is a clause about off-season activity in general, which there could be. Certainly it wouldn’t be the first time we’ve heard of an athletic contract that included non-team activities.

Didn’t Ovechkin have to get insurance in 2008 to participate in the World Championship? I imagine they all do, but that became a big deal because of the size of the (then pending) contract. It may simply be that this is first time the league has chosen to make a big deal out of it.

by gfcaps fan on Aug 5, 2009 8:57 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

athletic contract that included non-team activities

Ack! This should have said something like prohibited specified activities. Maybe I need more caffeine.

by gfcaps fan on Aug 5, 2009 8:59 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes, most contracts do have those clauses. I remember Semin saying something about not being able to ski and do some other stuff a while back because of his K.

by Fehr and Balanced on Aug 5, 2009 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don’t know why this is ‘shocking’, other than because some agent wants to play melodrama.

This isn’t an NHL activity, the players/countries are on the hook for providing insurance for this.

And really…unless you get your eye poked out, it’s not like you can’t play hurt until training camp, when it’s ok to get injured playing hockey.

Russian Machine Never Breaks

by macvechkin on Aug 5, 2009 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

At the Olympics, yes, there were a few high profile players that were injured during the 2006 Olympics. At the camps, I doubt as many, but of course, an injury can happen at any time. Given the player is covered during Olympic participation, you’d think it would cover the camps, too, but guess not. The insurance is likely to be a lot given it is in most cases, the elite players invited to the camps.

by sk84fun_dc on Aug 5, 2009 9:10 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was thinking of Hasek, Elias and Salo’s injuries at the last Olympics. IIRC, Demitra got injured, too. But to be clear, this issue isn’t about participating in the Olympics, it’s about participating in the evaluation camp during the summer.

by sk84fun_dc on Aug 5, 2009 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jagr got injured too (thank you D-Bag Ruutu). That was possibly the single-most important reason the Rags tanked following the Olympics.

by Fehr and Balanced on Aug 5, 2009 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Didn’t Jagr get hurt in the Olympics because he chose to play with a Circa 1969 Jofa helmet with original foam?

by zephyr on Aug 5, 2009 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Reading fail. Yeah, but it was more because Ruutu ran him head high late.

by Fehr and Balanced on Aug 5, 2009 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

One of the greatest helmets ever! Still have mine from when I was a kid.

by bigmac1124 on Aug 5, 2009 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Link

The link for the sweater numbers post takes you to the Bears preseason schedule.

by Newt on Aug 5, 2009 7:51 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Thanks – it’s fixed.

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by J.P. on Aug 5, 2009 8:34 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, and not to flash the geek card too hard, but I’ve seen the McFarlane/Spawn booth at a couple of shows and it’s pretty impressive to see all that stuff in one place.

That said, that new AO figure looks a little meh.

"The passion of our supporters cannot be contained by clothing."

by Bald Pollack on Aug 5, 2009 8:44 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Here is Ovi in red

IS PAЯTY NOW

by Your Nation's Capital on Aug 5, 2009 9:05 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hmm, looks a bit like Kovalchuk.

by Mobsky on Aug 5, 2009 9:14 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Rec’d for the continuity.

"The passion of our supporters cannot be contained by clothing."

by Bald Pollack on Aug 5, 2009 9:16 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

hmmm… so it has him w/ last years nike/bauer stick… surprised w/ the CCM contract they let the figure be made w/ that. for that matter…. how’s he able to play w/ the nike/bauer stick? anyone have any insight on that?

by Scofield on Aug 5, 2009 9:31 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It could be something he worked out with CCM.

If you think about it though…even if he did break the contract and played with a NB stick, do you really think CCM will take its ball and go home? To have Alex endorsing their gear is a privilege for them, so I doubt they’d make a huge fuss about it. They still want him wearing the skates, gloves, and bucket.

by Mobsky on Aug 5, 2009 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

tiger’s deal with nike made the news several times as he slowly transitioned from titleist to nike irons. i know in that case tiger’s contract permitted him to use any company’s equipment, but there have been side lawsuits when nike ads featured titleist clubs/balls, for instance.

by Natty Bumppo on Aug 5, 2009 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Tiger’s contract was exactly what I was thinking in my mind when I was thinking about Ovie’s.

I remember there was a lot of hub-bub when he was using a nike ball during his titleist days. Then he was using all Nike clubs except his 3 wood or something (which was still titleist) …

by Scofield on Aug 5, 2009 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

How can this topic be discussed without at least showing the image below. Gotta be Top 10 unpaid for advertisement in history, right? Sunday at the Masters, swoosh pausing ever-so-slightly before dropping in the cup.

by Cluster on Aug 5, 2009 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

pretty sure the only titleist club left in tiger’s bag is his putter.

by Natty Bumppo on Aug 5, 2009 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That looks like my cat. Only imagine it’s 7:00 in the morning on a Saturday, the table is my back, and it weighs twice as much…

by David M. Getz on Aug 5, 2009 9:37 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Has Nylander been invited to Olympic training camp?

Pick SPG for your chance to win probably nothing.

by xiix on Aug 5, 2009 9:55 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Yes he was there and apparently he did some kind of interview. It most have been really dull stuff because I haven’t heard anything more about it.

by Ice Warrior on Aug 5, 2009 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I totally missed that he had been invited. I thought Backstrom was the only Cap in the running for an Olympic spot.

by RedBirdie on Aug 5, 2009 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bäckström weren’t at the Swedish camp. But he will be on ice tonight playing for the Icebreakers. That’s a team Peter Forsberg and Markus Näslunds founded to raise money to children’s hospitals. They are playing two games in Denmark of all places.

by Ice Warrior on Aug 5, 2009 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hope we got insurance for that.

by Scott in Shaw on Aug 5, 2009 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, they do, an expensive one. I would have loved to see that game they had a line with Forsberg-Zetterberg-Bäckström. I’m practically drooling thinking about it.

by Ice Warrior on Aug 5, 2009 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

ooh man… that would be awesome.

by kellobellow on Aug 5, 2009 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don’t with the man any specific harm, but an “injury” would invalidate his NHL contract?

Pick SPG for your chance to win probably nothing.

by xiix on Aug 5, 2009 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

s/with/wish

Pick SPG for your chance to win probably nothing.

by xiix on Aug 5, 2009 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

09-10 Red Rockers = UPGRADE

by zephyr on Aug 5, 2009 10:03 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

thank goodness. let’s hope hte 09/10 Caps are as well (this would mean really good things – wouldn’t it?)

by vt caps fan on Aug 5, 2009 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

wonder if Varly thinks the red Rockers pass the hotness test?

by RedBirdie on Aug 5, 2009 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not if they’re the same ones as last year.

by Yoshietree on Aug 5, 2009 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

….and if the Wizards dancers decided to convert due to boredom of dancing in front of a pathetically empty arena.

by bigmac1124 on Aug 5, 2009 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No worries, the probably can’t skate.

by Murshawursha on Aug 5, 2009 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Let’s not be harsh, that pathetically empty arena was us a few years ago.

by Mobsky on Aug 5, 2009 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’m not sure how empty ours was, but I went to two Wizards games this year,and while I don’t remember too much from the post-lockout (from being away at college), I don’t recall the food stands being closed and having ONLY five or six 400-level sections with people sitting in them. Haha, they even gave us tickets to go down the lower levels to make it look more full on TV.

by bigmac1124 on Aug 5, 2009 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

wtf?

Have any personal admirers emerged?

“I have a true love, so I don’t look at any other women. You know, I’m extremely fortunate that I met a Russian girl in America. It’s difficult to look at a lot of the local women. You get the feeling that just don’t take care of themselves! There are an awful lot of heavyset ones. But Russian girls have nice trim figures. I couldn’t imagine myself being with an American girl.”

Look, I know DC is low on the women list, but these guys travel a lot. American woman are pretty hot. All the russian’s i’ve met had pretty bad teeth. I’ve travelled a lot, never to russia, and can say confidently that American woman (the good looking ones, at least) do a better job of taking care of themselves than other nationalities. Am I biased towards shaved legs?

Anyone else getting a little tired of the overzealous Russia love?

by Hunky Dory on Aug 5, 2009 10:31 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

The way I read this is that Russian women are anorexic. Not that their is anything wrong with that.

To each his own.

by vt caps fan on Aug 5, 2009 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh yes, Nothing wrong with anorexia.

"And next year it will be ours."

by Ovechwin on Aug 5, 2009 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL, thanks for calling on that one. I’m going to go out on a limb and say there is something wrong with anorexia.

by grapejoos on Aug 5, 2009 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I could be wrong, but I read that with sarcasm.

by gfcaps fan on Aug 5, 2009 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You might be right.

"And next year it will be ours."

by Ovechwin on Aug 5, 2009 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

anorexic? they…can read minds?

by Natty Bumppo on Aug 5, 2009 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

you’re thinking of ESPN.

by snowburnt on Aug 5, 2009 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Giving the benefit of the doubt for just a moment, maybe they say these things because it’s the Russian media, so they’re playing up the virtues of Russia. If that’s the case, as opposed to really meaning what they’re saying, they need to wise up real fast that we have translators, and therefore we read everything.

by gfcaps fan on Aug 5, 2009 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

maybe they say these things because it’s the Russian media, so they’re playing up the virtues of Russia

It is the Russian way. The interviews with Ovi, Semin and now Varly seem to go over the same increasingly stale ground. Russia Russia Russia and also Russia. That may even be why Ovi tried to change it up a bit in that last infamous interview.

Speaking of which, how do you think Varly gets ready for games?

/yeah, I went there
//no, I’m not proud of it

IS PAЯTY NOW

by Your Nation's Capital on Aug 5, 2009 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He eats a few rolls?

by zephyr on Aug 5, 2009 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Russians are a proud lot in general, I don’t think there is anything wrong with him enjoying the women he grew up around. I think some American women are hot, and some are not. It’s no different anywhere else but there’s no accounting for taste.

by Fehr and Balanced on Aug 5, 2009 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If Varly can generalize so can I...

I prefer not to be with Russian women because 99% of them just care about money. It’s better to share expensive things with people that don’t expect it like air and water.

by zephyr on Aug 5, 2009 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Eh, we shouldn’t get our knickers in a twist over it. Yes, there are attractive American women. But there are also plenty of “heavyset” American women. And let’s be honest, there are more of these sorts of women in the US than in any other country.

"My face is my mask."

by jakeshapiro on Aug 5, 2009 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Luckily all American men are skinny, so it balances out.

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by J.P. on Aug 5, 2009 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thread blow up in 3…2…1….

by gfcaps fan on Aug 5, 2009 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

At least the U.S. still has Samoa beat!

by zephyr on Aug 5, 2009 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Exactly.

"My face is my mask."

by jakeshapiro on Aug 5, 2009 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That guy is clearly a Canadian.

by zephyr on Aug 5, 2009 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That guy is clearly a Canadian Packers fan.

"The passion of our supporters cannot be contained by clothing."

by Bald Pollack on Aug 5, 2009 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Actually, it appears he’s wearing a Notre Dame cap. Might he be Charlie Weis’ younger brother?

by Cluster on Aug 5, 2009 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think he looks identical to Mike Holmgren.

by snowburnt on Aug 5, 2009 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

no way, Holmgren looks like a walrus. Weis looks like he ate a walrus.

by RedBirdie on Aug 5, 2009 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

having spent a week in Russia (St. Petersburg) I can say that there are plenty of hot Russian women, plenty of ordinary women, and some women that could stand to be on a diet.

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by Sombrero Guy on Aug 5, 2009 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

cheap shot, but Mrs. Malkin and Mrs. Ovechkin are not exactly silm and sexy ladies, and last time i checked, they were Russian.

by RedBirdie on Aug 5, 2009 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think it depends where you hang out too.

Invite Varly to go people watching with me on a warm evening in Clarendon and his opinion will surely change.

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by Hooks Orpik on Aug 5, 2009 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah, the ratio of tall skinny hot russian blonde women was much higher in the two clubs we went to when compared to say, a museum or grocery store.

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by Sombrero Guy on Aug 5, 2009 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Clarendon must have gotten a lot more interesting since the time I lived in Arlington

by David M. Getz on Aug 5, 2009 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Or Hooks and you have a different definition of talent.

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by J.P. on Aug 5, 2009 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’m with Hooks. The Orange Line corridor in Virginia is well above average.

by Cluster on Aug 5, 2009 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe I’m just cranky because I’m not particularly fond of that area. Or maybe I’ve been forever spoiled for having to college in the South.

by David M. Getz on Aug 5, 2009 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Could be both. But as long as you don’t try talking to the “talent” it still seems like “talent.” You don’t have to love the people to like the view.

by Fehr and Balanced on Aug 5, 2009 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

But as long as you don’t try talking to the "talent" it still seems like "talent." You don’t have to love the people to like the view.

touche’

by David M. Getz on Aug 5, 2009 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

you both need to get outta dodge more…. : )

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by bigonetimer on Aug 5, 2009 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’m with DMG. City girls > NoVa girls

by Scott in Shaw on Aug 5, 2009 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

City girls > NoVa girls

Ahem.

by David M. Getz on Aug 5, 2009 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Geez, I live out in Loudoun. We’re just happy they have teeth!

If you've read this far...seek help.

by ThePeerless on Aug 5, 2009 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rec’d for a Loudoun brother, flagged for admitting it.

"The passion of our supporters cannot be contained by clothing."

by Bald Pollack on Aug 5, 2009 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It’s got the highest median household income of any county in the U.S., I’m sure they can afford to get fake ones ;-)

by David M. Getz on Aug 5, 2009 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

See you at the Ballroom!

by Fehr and Balanced on Aug 5, 2009 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I beg to differ

Washington D.C. was recently named the fittest city in America. Take that Varly!

/Off to IHOP for lunch

by Cluster on Aug 5, 2009 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Well he also spent most of his year in Hershey, so he may not be talking about DC. DC may not be the fattest place I’ve ever been but it’s also not the most attractive place either.

by Fehr and Balanced on Aug 5, 2009 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

A lot of average women in DC look better than average women elsewhere because they dress very well and take care of themselves. YMMV.

by zephyr on Aug 5, 2009 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

/I moved here from Vegas.

by Fehr and Balanced on Aug 5, 2009 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

you poor dear. My last visit to Vegas just reconfirmed that the NHL should try to put a team in Sin City. Such creative marketing concepts would be available…

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by bigonetimer on Aug 5, 2009 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

A new casino called Valhalla with a Norse God theme. Team operations subsidized by gambling. Private arena so no bad lease with the city. Tons of people looking for “something” to do. A population just looking for a real pro team. The Las Vegas Berserkers would be a total success.

by Fehr and Balanced on Aug 5, 2009 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

my buddy in F/B (no relation) at Aramark in LV says hockey would hit the ceiling with potential fan base pretty quickly….and really, who cares if they don’t get their sales receipts at the gate? They’d make it up in some kind of Ovechkin “Hot Stick” Slots by the end of the first.

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by bigonetimer on Aug 5, 2009 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Exactly. They could keep the ticket sales cheap and fill the place. Bill it as family entertainment. Their ECHL team is top 10 in ECHL attendance. I am convinced it could work. Just picture a Viking Funeral for a jersey retirement ceremony. I seriously have this all figured out. Now, anyone have funding?

by Fehr and Balanced on Aug 5, 2009 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

How about Steve Wynn. What?

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by bigonetimer on Aug 5, 2009 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wynn is a prime front-runner if it’s not MGM or Harrah’s. But I don’t know Steve Wynn. I’ll give him a call if you got his Cell.

by Fehr and Balanced on Aug 5, 2009 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

By the way, I love the Wynn: worth the extra cake. Now, if’ they’d only put Lotus of Siam in there….

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by bigonetimer on Aug 5, 2009 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

As did I, with a brief prison term stopover in New Jersey in between. Lived in Henderson, and went to a few Wranglers games. Always entertaining.

by Cluster on Aug 5, 2009 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

do you think the NHL would sail there? I know it won’t be on Bettsy’s watch but I am all in, as it were.

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by bigonetimer on Aug 5, 2009 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ever been in a Vegas casino? An ice rink wouldn’t be anything new to these guys.

"It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees." - Delores Ibarruri

by gotsparkly on Aug 5, 2009 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

which guys?

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by bigonetimer on Aug 5, 2009 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Casino people. It’s COLD in there.

"It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees." - Delores Ibarruri

by gotsparkly on Aug 5, 2009 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

ok, right : )

Frankly, I think the most challenging issue from an arena perspective is making sure the ice is playable: that’s a lot of mice spinning in their wheels in the basement.

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by bigonetimer on Aug 5, 2009 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, people manage to go skiing in the UAE

by red army line on Aug 5, 2009 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The ice is surprisingly not a problem. Vegas is dry. Humidity is a bigger problem than heat because once you cool a building it’s easier to keep cold if it’s dry. I never had a problem with the ice in Vegas, not like I do at Kettler.

by Fehr and Balanced on Aug 5, 2009 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

good point. and the issue is kind of moot if the building is running at a profit at the end of the evening.

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by bigonetimer on Aug 5, 2009 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, F&B’s comments above seem to show he thinks a team would work there, but my gut feel has always been that it wouldn’t. Out of the three key factors this article mentions-ownership, market, and arena, I think the biggest question mark would ultimately be the market. For sure, they wouldn’t get a team until a new arena was approved. But Vegas is comprised of transplants and transient tourists, which I don’t think can sustain a franchise long-term. The big question is: does the NHL want to risk trying to build another fanbase from the ground up?

by Cluster on Aug 5, 2009 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

But Vegas is comprised of transplants and transient tourists, which I don’t think can sustain a franchise long-term.

One could say the same of DC.

"It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees." - Delores Ibarruri

by gotsparkly on Aug 5, 2009 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Except with DC, there’s government jobs and an endless sprawl of suburbs. In Vegas, well, I’m guessing most of the people that live/work in the city are supporting the casinos, and outside the city limits is an endless expanse of desert.

by Murshawursha on Aug 5, 2009 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

you’ve not been recently, I gather.

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by bigonetimer on Aug 5, 2009 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is there actually civilization around Vegas now?

by Murshawursha on Aug 5, 2009 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

endless sprawl to support to entertainment complex that is Vegas.

by RedBirdie on Aug 5, 2009 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fair enough. Still, do a google map of Vegas and compare it to one of DC. They don’t even come close to us.

by Murshawursha on Aug 5, 2009 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

not true at all, actually. “DC is a transient city” is a myth. Certain professions, certain neighborhoods are a bit more transient, but even then, people tend to move to DC and never leave. The number of people born in the greater DC area and stay in the greater DC area most or all of their lives is comparable to the national average. It’s really easy to see something like “DC had X number of resident and x% of them left during a calendar year.” What isn’t as easy is how many of those people moved to MoCo or Arlington or where ever. Or the reverse, when statistics say “DC gained X residents.” How many of them just made the quick move like I did from suburbia to the city because they want to be closer to all the city offerings (and shorter commute!)? LOTS.

by RedBirdie on Aug 5, 2009 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

not true at all, actually. "DC is a transient city" is a myth. Certain professions, certain neighborhoods are a bit more transient, but even then, people tend to move to DC and never leave.

If true, that doesn’t change the original assertion that DC has a lot of “transplants and transient tourists”.

The number of people born in the greater DC area and stay in the greater DC area most or all of their lives is comparable to the national average.

Source?

by David M. Getz on Aug 5, 2009 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’ll see if I can dig it up, both the original Marc Fisher column and the raw numbers he used. But looking at the statistics of the whole region, rather than just the city of Washington, the greater DC area is no more transient than the national average. The growth rate of people moving to the region from other places in the country isn’t abnormally high, either.

by RedBirdie on Aug 5, 2009 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I found it, and I have to say that I don’t find it particularly convincing because (1) he doesn’t do a lot of comparing apples to apples in it (2) he has no decent way of measuring whether or not people in the DC metro area are more transient than others.

Okay, a higher proportion of people living in DC were born in DC than people living in Seattle were born in Washington. That doesn’t mean the percentage of people living in the DC metro area who were born in the DC metro area is higher than the percentage of people living in metro Seattle who were born in metro Seattle.

Plus the cities below DC on this list – Los Angeles, San Diego, San Francisco, Miami, Las Vegas, etc are all regarded as cities of transplants as well.

by David M. Getz on Aug 5, 2009 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

we’re just going to have agree to disagree on this. I don’t think the region is any more transient that most major cities. Transient, to me, is a place where people are constantly coming and going, and that’s not the case here. People come to the region because of its various offerings, stay here, put down roots, and establish themselves.And those of us who were born here tend to stay here or leave briefly and come back.

by RedBirdie on Aug 5, 2009 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don’t think it’s an issue of agreement or disagreement, either DC is more transient than other major cities or it’s not – and I don’t have the answer on it.

Now you’ve got me all curious about it and I don’t know where to go to find the applicable data!

by David M. Getz on Aug 5, 2009 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Don’t you have an in at Census?

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by J.P. on Aug 5, 2009 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, but not with demographics. Perhaps I’ll look in to it a little more…

by David M. Getz on Aug 5, 2009 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It looks to me like the Census doesn’t collect that kind of data – they only ask what state people were born in on the ACS long form, and not anything about whether/which a person was born in a Metropolitan Statistical Area.

by David M. Getz on Aug 5, 2009 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

So does that mean the article cited above is actually using the best available data to draw conclusions?

by Murshawursha on Aug 5, 2009 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wouldn’t be surprised, but I don’t really know what else might be out there. The issue is really more with the data (ACS data isn’t really used to look at this issue) than anything else.

by David M. Getz on Aug 5, 2009 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah, its a bit of a head scratcher. I know the census is used for things like representative and tax allocation, but as more and more cities become regional hubs without regard to state lines, it seems to me that the localities, at the very least, would want to have a better handle on that sort of information.

by RedBirdie on Aug 5, 2009 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It’d be nice to know, if just to satisfy my curiosity. Maybe it’d be possible by pulling data from multiple sources – I have no idea.

I’d especially like to look at historical data. My impression is that this area exploded with transplants after WWII, giving rise it’s transient city reputation and that a higher and higher percentage of the city is now made up of the children of baby boomers who moved here in that time frame, resulting in more people with roots in the area.

by David M. Getz on Aug 5, 2009 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’d say that’s pretty accurate. I’d guess that the under 35 crowd is the largest percentage of people who are born and stuck around in the DC area (despite the hordes of college students and Hill slaves), in part because the city is no longer viewed as a hellhole and there’s considerable opportunity for work beyond the government since the mid-1990s.

by RedBirdie on Aug 5, 2009 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

This is the third separate time I’ve lived in the DC area. Do I win a prize or something?

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by ThePeerless on Aug 5, 2009 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

One could say the same of DC.

I think it’s a poor comparison in this case. D.C.‘s metro population is 5.3 million, whereas Vegas’ is 1.8 (both numbers from Wiki, but referenced from Census Bureau figures).

The tourism focus and round-the-clock nature of Vegas is so unique. You having a sizeable chunk of the local workforce that literally doesn’t see the light of day. DC also had established itself as capable of sustaining multiple sports franchises at the time the Caps were founded in ’74.

Simply put, I think it would be like the NHL trying to put a franchise in Disney World. Lots of people, lots of cash being flashed, but how do you grab their attention…..long term.

by Cluster on Aug 5, 2009 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lots of people, lots of cash being flashed, but how do you grab their attention…..long term.

be competitive and win right away.

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by bigonetimer on Aug 5, 2009 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sounds so simple doesn’t it?

An expansion team winning right away ain’t gonna happen (‘96 Panthers were an outlier), and a relocated franchise’s roster will probably not be in great shape either.

by Cluster on Aug 5, 2009 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

PHX has the rights to a lot of young talent. If they move it won’t be hard to make them a playoff team in 2 years. It would take longer to make an expansion team competitive, but not that much. There are a lot of talented players that could probably play larger roles so you could at least put together a team that could battle right away. Top draft picks are closer to contributing now than they’ve ever been because of youth development and if you give expansion teams top picks the two drafts before their first game then they’ll have plenty of talent to be off and running.

by Fehr and Balanced on Aug 5, 2009 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

haha rec’d

by bigmac1124 on Aug 5, 2009 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

have to say, the less that fit people I see tend to reside in the ’burbs.

by RedBirdie on Aug 5, 2009 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

oh, and this is the picture the report included to demonstrate DC as America’s fittest city:

by RedBirdie on Aug 5, 2009 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

…ball…. grr.

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by winterion on Aug 5, 2009 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You know, maybe they’re just trying to impress their girlfriend? “Oh yea baby, I hate american girls, I’d never want to be with one”

"And next year it will be ours."

by Ovechwin on Aug 5, 2009 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

They killed Kenny?

If you've read this far...seek help.

by ThePeerless on Aug 5, 2009 11:14 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Does anyone else secretly (secretly super deep down) hope that Zherdev decides to come to the Caps for 1m?

by DrinkingPartner on Aug 5, 2009 12:08 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yes. Flash can’t wait to have someone get criticized for being softer and more invisible than him. Semin can’t wait for someone that takes worse penalties.

by Fehr and Balanced on Aug 5, 2009 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nikolai Zherdev: All the frustrations of Alex Semin with 70% of his talent!

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by Hooks Orpik on Aug 5, 2009 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

only so Ovi can beat him up

by ns on Aug 5, 2009 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

he’s got EDM written all over his sorry ass

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by bigonetimer on Aug 5, 2009 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No, but I’d love to see him in Hershey.

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by winterion on Aug 5, 2009 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dear lord no.

Why go for a poor man’s Semin when you’ve got the real, enigmatic thing?

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by J.P. on Aug 5, 2009 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cuz Semin breeds more Semin?

by red army line on Aug 5, 2009 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

By the way, a hell of a career for the ninth rounder

nearly 1000 games (and almost 1PIM/gm…solid)

I was not aware he was the key piece* in the Mathieu Schneider salary dump→ATL deal

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by bigonetimer on Aug 5, 2009 12:40 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Huzzah for Varlamov officially changing his first name to Semyon.

"My face is my mask."

by jakeshapiro on Aug 5, 2009 1:04 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Agreed. Melikes.

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by Your Nation's Capital on Aug 5, 2009 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nice PR move to distract from his “heavyset” comment. :)

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by J.P. on Aug 5, 2009 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Or not.

"It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees." - Delores Ibarruri

by gotsparkly on Aug 5, 2009 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe “Simeon” Varlamov doesn’t like beefy local ladies but “Semyon” Varlamov loves women of all shapes and sizes. PR problem solved!

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by J.P. on Aug 5, 2009 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Well, I suppose the majority of the population might actually accept that.

"It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees." - Delores Ibarruri

by gotsparkly on Aug 5, 2009 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’m surprised no one has gone the route of, " Well I may be fat but you’re ugly! Good luck changing that face."

by zephyr on Aug 5, 2009 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

chuckled out loud.

by Natty Bumppo on Aug 5, 2009 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nice, JP – spoken like a true child of the DC area, familiar with the ways of deflection, distraction and spin!

by Becca H on Aug 5, 2009 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Glad the Caps Media folks are finally seeing things my way :) I kid, I kid!!!!

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by tuvanhillbilly on Aug 5, 2009 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hmmm. Anyone else think that the Caps PR crew might need to sit the Russians down when they come in for training camp? This isn’t the first potentially inflammatory interview that’s gotten out in North America.

"It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees." - Delores Ibarruri

by gotsparkly on Aug 5, 2009 1:37 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I don’t think it’s a problem. Semin doesn’t dig Crosby’s game. AO has sex. Varly likes skinny chicks. It’s not like any of these guys is openly racist/homophobic/Republican (kidding!).

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by J.P. on Aug 5, 2009 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

As you said, breaking news: 23-year-old guys like sex.

I don’t think these are real bad, but it could get worse. Wonder if half of it is that everybody is bored.

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by gotsparkly on Aug 5, 2009 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think with this latest glut of AO interviews and this Varly piece, part of it is that for 9 months or so out of the year, these guys are over here, so when they’re back in Russia they’re probably in higher demand than they otherwise might be (especially among non-hockey outlets). Add in the comfort of them doing interviews in their own language and different cultural norms, and it’s not hard to see why some “controversial” stuff comes out.

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by J.P. on Aug 5, 2009 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No, it’s not. I’ve always understood why it does, the question now is whether the Caps feel like they need to do or say anything about it and whether it bothers them or not. I just don’t know whether it will.

"It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees." - Delores Ibarruri

by gotsparkly on Aug 5, 2009 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It’d be wildly entertaining if these guys had an inside joke going to see who can say the most outrageous thing in an interview.

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by J.P. on Aug 5, 2009 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Haha, I hope Semin has another interview coming up soon!

by zephyr on Aug 5, 2009 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It’d be wildly entertaining if these guys had an inside joke going to see who can say the most outrageous thing in an interview.

Old Russian game of “Can you top this?” LOL. Actually, i wouldn’t put it past Ovi, who loves the attention but must be a bit weary of answering the same questions over and over.

I’ll claim bragging rights since I found the original Varly interview and the googletranslate thingy made it clear what he said. Frankly, he’s entitled to his opinion and entitled to choose his partner for any reason he chooses. I certainly wasn’t offended.

I thought the rest of the interview was very interesting. I had been wondering if players had to drive themselves to DC if they get The Call in Hershey; now I know a car comes ’round and they go to the airport. (The real question is – how do they get back to Hershey?)

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by Your Nation's Capital on Aug 5, 2009 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I remember Bryan Helmer had this problem (or maybe it was another guy?). The car got him in Hershey, took him to I want to say Pittsburgh for the game, then he flew back to DC with the team. He had no idea how he would get back to Hershey when the time came because his car was there and he was in DC.

by RedBirdie on Aug 5, 2009 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And even though I typed “Russia,” I’d include “Sweden” for obvious reasons. Speaking of, I wonder what our fair-haired Swedish meatball is up to these days…

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by J.P. on Aug 5, 2009 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He’s ordering out for Danish. he and some other Swedes are doing some exhibition thingy in Denmark, according to Ice warrior.

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by Your Nation's Capital on Aug 5, 2009 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, I read that. But I mean the salacious stuff. :)

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by J.P. on Aug 5, 2009 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He’s proving that some Swedes know how to stay out of the headlines.

by gfcaps fan on Aug 5, 2009 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

probably gorging himself on Swedish Meatballs if last summer is any indication! Oh, and getting his hair cut.

by RedBirdie on Aug 5, 2009 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He’s ordering out for Danish.

I see what you did there.

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by Bald Pollack on Aug 5, 2009 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rec’d because Futurama is awesome.

by Murshawursha on Aug 5, 2009 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And it's coming back!

Double Rec!

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by Ovechwin on Aug 5, 2009 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Mmmm, I remember being totally mesmerized by the Danish women’s handball team when I went to the ’96 games in Atlanta. I think I watched every one of their matches.

by Cluster on Aug 5, 2009 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I look at it from a different angle. The fact that hockey drama can even EXIST in the middle of summer and people care about it is a good sign for the Caps and our city.

"My face is my mask."

by jakeshapiro on Aug 5, 2009 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Please, we’re freaks compared to the rest of DC’s hockey fans.

by Mobsky on Aug 5, 2009 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wonder how many people “we” are. JP, do you know how many different people read the Rink on a regular basis? I know it’s more than comment on the articles, because I read it for about a year before I actually got a username and I’m sure I’m not the only one who’s done that.

"My face is my mask."

by jakeshapiro on Aug 5, 2009 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Time to break out google analytics!

by zephyr on Aug 5, 2009 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

because i feel like i have a stake in the community—my guess is that most of us feel that way—i’m actually more interested in finding out how we compare to other SBN blogs. the sheer number of comments this place gets is far and above most other blogs. (for hockey, PPP is there too.) not that i expect the powers that be to shame the rest of SB hockey nation in that way..

by Natty Bumppo on Aug 5, 2009 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree. I think part of that is because SBN is based out of DC. It’s be cool to see how we compare to other SBN blogs, as well as how we compare to other Caps blogs.
I hope Hooks and PPP read this.

"My face is my mask."

by jakeshapiro on Aug 5, 2009 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

*It’d

"My face is my mask."

by jakeshapiro on Aug 5, 2009 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think part of that is because SBN is based out of DC.

How so? I think it has much more to do with characteristics related to the fan base than the location of SBN, but I really had never thought about it until now. I never knew that SBN was based in DC and I never thought to care. I come here because I’m a Caps/hockey fan and this is the best place for Caps/hockey info and discussion. PPP does well because they have a gigantic fan base to pull from so even if they got .1% of the TML fans to visit they would be one of the most popular blogs.

by Fehr and Balanced on Aug 5, 2009 6:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I mean, I came across Japers’ Rink for the same reasons you did, but presumably fans of every team come across their hockey blogs for those same reasons, and somehow we’ve got way more readers than most other teams. We’d have to ask JP, but I’d assume that being based in the same city as SBN is good for the Rink.
I could be completely wrong though.

"My face is my mask."

by jakeshapiro on Aug 5, 2009 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

More likely its the fact that the Caps have one of the biggest (if not the biggest) blogospheres in hockey. Thanks to Ted the fanbase is already used to using “new media” for their coverage.

by brs03 on Aug 5, 2009 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ted gets a lot of credit and the fact that most of the fans are from the DC area, which is one of the wealthier and more tech-savvy areas of the country also has to do with it. But neither of those are related to SBN’s location.

by Fehr and Balanced on Aug 5, 2009 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

But SBN runs on West Coast servers? All the post times are Pacific…

/unless there’s some setting I forgot to tweek

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by Your Nation's Capital on Aug 5, 2009 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

same here

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by Ovechwin on Aug 5, 2009 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

there’s a setting you forgot to tweek. all my time stamps are CDT, because i made it so in the “edit settings” tab of my profile.

by Natty Bumppo on Aug 5, 2009 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And so there is. “Edit settings”, select ’Eastern time", and “Voila!”, I am topical and timely.

Thanks NB.

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by Your Nation's Capital on Aug 5, 2009 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

topical and timely, but still lacking is a decidedly girly avatar :) where is your pink and sparkles?!

by RedBirdie on Aug 5, 2009 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, Japers’ Rink existed before SBN did, but I do wonder whether the SBN consolidation created a boost for blogs related to teams based near one of the most internet-saturated regions of the country.

by CapitalCentre on Aug 5, 2009 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well I know I wouldn’t have started reading Federal Baseball had it not been for the Rink joining SBN and making me aware of it. The fact that all the SBN blogs are so interconnected probably increases readership for everyone involved. Certainly we’ve got quite the relationship with PensBurgh.

"My face is my mask."

by jakeshapiro on Aug 5, 2009 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree with this completely, I just don’t read Federal Baseball.

by Fehr and Balanced on Aug 5, 2009 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think F&B is right on this one. The Caps have a (currently) passionate fanbase and have had a bunch of good-to-great blogs for several years. I think this one is thriving in particular because of the SB Nation platform and exposure (comments were certainly more modest in number in the previous incarnation, and harder to follow) and most of all because of the top-notch content. SB Nation might get people to find this site, but there are options in the Caps blogosphere and there’s a reason why people keep coming back to this site.

I read and posted on the SB Nation Cowboys blog for about a year before the Rink joined SB Nation, and I thought it was one of the biggest blogs running. This one routinely generates more comments for a team with a comparatively tiny fanbase. I am sure this site is doing well in all sorts of SB Nation metrics relative to any other blog on the network, hockey or not.

by grapejoos on Aug 5, 2009 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It’s be cool to see how we compare to other SBN blogs, as well as how we compare to other Caps blogs.
I hope Hooks and PPP read this.

I read it, not sure what you wanted me to see. Pensburgh does pretty well and has had signficant growth, I believe it’s been one of the top SBN blogs over the past couple months. We’ve really benefited from the great partnerships that SBN has. I don’t know the numbers for other blogs (like Mirtle and JP) but I’d assume they get more traffic and are more established.

I think I heard the whole network of SB Nation blogs got 7 million page views last months. That number includes all the baseball, football, b-ball, boxing, MMA, hockey, soccer, everything, if that gives you any idea.

Pensburgh.com -- it's like the Max Talbot of blogs*

*not just because we only work for 12 minutes a night

by Hooks Orpik on Aug 5, 2009 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

We’ve really benefited from the great partnerships that SBN has.

You guys also benefited from something else… can’t quite put my finger on it… oh well.

But everything you get is well-deserved – you guys do a fantastic job.

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by J.P. on Aug 5, 2009 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah advancing deep into the playoffs twice in a row kept interest high.

And thanks for the nice words.

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by Hooks Orpik on Aug 5, 2009 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Haha, I didn’t mean to put down Pensburgh at all. I hoped you’d read this just to hear your thoughts on the connection between hockey blogs.
Hmm. 7 million. I wonder how many of those were for hockey.

"My face is my mask."

by jakeshapiro on Aug 5, 2009 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Believe it or not, our MMA blogs get absolutely insane traffic that probably blows everything but a baseball blog or two out of the water. Most of the SBN blogs (not this one, though) actually have their Sitemeter data available at the bottom of their page. Go check out Bloody Elbow ’s traffic.

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by J.P. on Aug 5, 2009 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think that’s the result of their industry really having a lot of history with internet users….Plus they had 17 posts today! That much material they’re awesomely churning out is something else. No wonder they have all the traffic they do.

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by Hooks Orpik on Aug 5, 2009 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks for the link. Didn’t think much of MMA until I saw the Machida fight back around Memorial Day. I still have serious misgivings but he was just awesome. I’m sure Bloody Elbow (shudder) will be all over his title defense, I think scheduled for October.

by Lisita on Aug 5, 2009 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

City Paper interviewed Bloody Elbow here.

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by Your Nation's Capital on Aug 5, 2009 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh ok, didn’t know what you wanted there, sorry if it seemed defensive.

I think the relationships between blogs around here are real solid…There’s obviously interaction between the communities and we frequently link to each other in posts.

I’m not sure how big of the pie the hockey blogs get for the whole network. Mirtle would be the one to ask about that. Just between PPP, The Rink, From The Rink and Pensburgh (which I think are the most trafficed hockey blogs) would have gotten well over 1 million page views last month.

Not to say there aren’t some really good blogs that don’t generate the buzz as the bigger markets.

Pensburgh.com -- it's like the Max Talbot of blogs*

*not just because we only work for 12 minutes a night

by Hooks Orpik on Aug 5, 2009 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And Bloody Elbow did 2 million last month (!) covering a “sport” that not even I can watch. Not to take anything away from them (B.E.) – they are obviously amazing at what they do. It’s just insane to me MMA’s popularity.

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by J.P. on Aug 5, 2009 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

this could also have a lot to do with the lack of MMA television coverage from ESPN/FSN. i know ESPN.com has started an online show to meet some of the demand (which is consistently ranked “most popular” on the ESPN video sidebar). but in general, i’m guessing MMA fans turn to the internet for their fix.

by Natty Bumppo on Aug 5, 2009 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’m sort of the opposite. I don’t necessarily make an effort to see MMA fights, but when I do, I cannot stop watching it. And surprisingly, I think Joe Rogan is a great analyst. He knows his shit.

by Cluster on Aug 5, 2009 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

joe rogan = better than i would have ever guessed.
during his call of lesnar-mir I, he basically predicts everything that’s about to happen.

by Natty Bumppo on Aug 5, 2009 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Reads it a lot, rarely feels qualified to comment (except for right now)

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Washington 70 47 14 9 103
Atlanta 69 29 29 11 69
Tampa Bay 69 28 29 12 68
Florida 68 28 30 10 66
Carolina 69 28 33 8 64

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