Thursday Caps Clips: Will Team Canada Go Green?
by J.P. on Aug 27, 2009 6:41 AM EDT
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Your savory breakfast links:
- During last year's playoffs, the Post's Barry Svrluga wrote a story that detailed the health issues with which Mike Green's mother was dealing and how that kept her from being able to watch her sons games live. Apparently that's still the case as her son tries to make Canada's Olympic Team. [Calgary Herald]
- Speaking of which, Pierre LeBrun calls Green a "long shot" to make the team (really?) and Joe Pelletier has him as the seventh best blueliner in camp (which sneaks him onto the roster, just ahead of Dion Phaneuf). But when you read tweets from camp describing "Offensive zone drills w/defensmen dropping down for back door play." while noting "This will be an extremely active blueline," and Scott Niedermayer and Mike Babcock aren't shy about offering praise, you've got to think his chances are pretty decent.
- Matt Bradley did a promo for D.C. United and got a sweet customized jersey (kit?) for his efforts. But with his own name on the back, is it a jersey foul? [@paulrovnak]
- Brads, John Erskine and Anton Gustafsson all took a few minutes to chat up Tarik out at Kettler yesterday. [Capitals Insider]
- A nightmare scenario for every team, including a pretty accurate one for the Caps. [The Hockey News]
- In Calgary (WHL), they're salivating at the prospect of having "the circuit's top sniper" back for another year. That player? Joel Broda. [SLAM! Sports]
- Joe Juneau was apparently at Team Canada's Olympic Camp yesterday. Juneau, of course, was a member of Canada's silver medal team in Albertville in 1992 and led that tourney in scoring. [@Jeff Marek]
- John Walton Hockey has gotten a facelift in time for the new season. [John Walton Hockey]
- Finally, Happy 47th birthday to Adam Oates, who has the most career points of any eligible player not currently in the Hall of Fame and the most assists of anyone not in the Hall, and was the oldest player ever to lead the League in assists when he tallied 64 in 2001-02 at the age of 39.
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DCU could have used Bradley’s effort last night, that’s for sure.
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by Bald Pollack on Aug 27, 2009 7:25 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Oh, in a related link, Uncle Ted got a kit of his own.
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by Bald Pollack on Aug 27, 2009 7:29 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They needed someone to attack opposing knuckles with his face?
(I keed, I keed)
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by J.P. on Aug 27, 2009 7:43 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey, you never know when this will happen (skip to the :30 mark).
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by Bald Pollack on Aug 27, 2009 7:59 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow, that’s amazing.
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by J.P. on Aug 27, 2009 8:02 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Holy shit! That’s a karate kick to the throat! I’d like to see the Prof do that this season.
I don’t think it’s a jersey foul though, BB had a Nats jersey with his name last week and no one complained.
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by jakeshapiro on Aug 27, 2009 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If Bradley did that the end result would be about 12,000 people all vomiting at once and it would be the most gruesome on ice “incident” ever.
by zephyr on Aug 27, 2009 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Richard Zednik (among others) vehemently disagrees with this idea. Although his “vehement” setting would still be pretty quiet, if my brief handshake meeting with him (and Joe Murphy) at FedEx is any indication?
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by war_capitals on Aug 27, 2009 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ugh, I saw his throat slashing once (I was trying to avoid it, actually), and I’ve never been able to watch it since. Even though I knew he was ok when I saw it, it was terrible to watch.
by RedBirdie on Aug 27, 2009 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That one was horrific of course, but if anyone else watched the Classic Series for the ’02 Bruins-Habs series, that elbow that McLaren hit him with has to be 1A for him… UGH!
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by war_capitals on Aug 27, 2009 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
AnGus on what he’s been doing since he’s been in town: “Watching baseball, the Nationals. I never saw it until I came here. I really like it.”
Someone should explain to him that that’s the equivalent of if someone had never seen hockey before and started by watching the Islanders last year.
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by J.P. on Aug 27, 2009 8:02 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Heh. I’d call them more like the Caps of 2004-2005. Most of their bullpen is crazy young, and they’re developing a lot of their guys right now. Under Jim Riggleman, they’re only one game under .500 right now (19-20). They’ve got mad offense (15 runs including two homers and a grand slam? Yikes) but their pitchers need help.
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by gotsparkly on Aug 27, 2009 8:11 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not to nitpick, but you might want to amend that to the Caps of 2005-06.
by gfcaps fan on Aug 27, 2009 8:18 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And that’s a joke, please note that.
by gfcaps fan on Aug 27, 2009 8:19 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hehehe, you’re right :) Thanks for the catch.
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by gotsparkly on Aug 27, 2009 8:35 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m not quite as sold on the foundation of this Nats team as compared to that Caps team. That Caps team didn’t really have any big ticket UFAs (Adam Dunn), deadweight vets (Cristian Guzman), etc. What it had was a great farm system (these Nats don’t) and a superstar (these Nats might, but even if they do, he only plays every fifth day; all due respect to Ryan Zim, btw, he’s not a “superstar”).
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by J.P. on Aug 27, 2009 8:25 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
(And I’ll soften a bit on Guz – not deadweight, but they really should have moved him to Boston if/when they had the chance a couple of weeks back.)
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by J.P. on Aug 27, 2009 8:36 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, we all know how that goes – trades aren’t that simple. Was there a deal out there that made sense for them that Boston would have done while they’re in the division chase?
OT – I think I’m going to take a hand voice recorder to the Caps Convention and see if I can get some audio of these panels. The “Let’s Make A Deal” panel could be the rubber mallet required for some of the sillier trade ideas out there.
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by gotsparkly on Aug 27, 2009 8:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes – Boston was on Guz but settled for AGone. Obviously we don’t know the deets, but there was interest there.
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by J.P. on Aug 27, 2009 8:49 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They never put in a claim, though. They were thinking about it, but never did.
Rizzo’s comments last night make me think he might still be traded, but who knows. Not much there, just my read of the situation.
by brs03 on Aug 27, 2009 9:35 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’ll defer on this, but I’d have sweetened the pot to do whatever it took to get Boston to take him.
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by J.P. on Aug 27, 2009 9:37 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I assume you’re referring to Strasburg? It’s too early to tell with him. With Ovi, you KNEW from his first shift that the guy was going to be the hand grenade in the NHL’s barrel of oatmeal.
A player like Ovi comes along once in a generation – you just don’t see many like him. I don’t think it’s fair to expect any given team to have a player like Ovi in their sport and require it as a gauge of future success. I agree that Guzman’s not all that, but I see Dunn and Zimmerman as the cogs that keep things going while the kids grow up. Same with Livan Hernandez.
What are you basing your comments on the farm system on?
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by gotsparkly on Aug 27, 2009 8:42 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Right, that’s my point (re: Strasburg). And I’m not saying Dunn is no good or that Zim isn’t a cog – I’m saying that the Caps team that you compared these Nats too didn’t bring in a big name UFA to bolster the lineup like the Nats did with Dunn and that Zimmerman is more Laich than Ovechkin (for a crude analogy).
As for the farm system, almost everything I’ve seen has them around 10th. Not bad, of course, and easily explained by the way MLB screwed the team for so many years. But again, the comparison was made to the 05-06 Caps, whose top affiliate won its league’s championship that year, lost in the Finals the following year, and won it again two years after that.
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by J.P. on Aug 27, 2009 8:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
As has been pointed out, making the hockey/baseball comparison is difficult. The Nationals have finally started to put together a team that could be exciting to watch going forward. I’m not a big baseball fan because the pace of the game is glacial, but more scoring is a good thing. But if the pitching/defense stinks, it negates all of that. And if your best pitching is only out there 20% of the time, you’re hosed.
What the Nats do have going for them is an improving team with a shiny new stadium. They play in a theoretically tough division (Phillies, etc), but these attributes could surely help in the future when/if they’re going after top tier free agents.
by gfcaps fan on Aug 27, 2009 9:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can’t the best pitcher, by definition, only be out ~20% of the time?
by David M. Getz on Aug 27, 2009 9:30 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, but I think you get the drift. I just couldn’t figure out how to word it properly. The pitching seems to be improving, but it keeps looking like one step forward, one step backwards right now. Does the team have one ace to look forward to, or more?
by gfcaps fan on Aug 27, 2009 9:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Depends on Jordan Zimmermann’s recovery from TJ surgery. Lannan is an acceptable #3 starter on a good team.
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by J.P. on Aug 27, 2009 9:34 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fingers crossed, of course, but Zimmermann isn’t pitching again until 2011.
Hey, maybe down the road I might get interested enough to actually go to a game.
by gfcaps fan on Aug 27, 2009 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’d say its worth going now. The people at the games are generally baseball lovers and you can move around. its more fun to watch a game with people who “get” the rhythm of baseball
by RedBirdie on Aug 27, 2009 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have to admit, I kind of miss going to Caps games back when the only people there were the die hards.
by David M. Getz on Aug 27, 2009 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Easy to get tickets too.
“Hey, I found I’m free tonight. Let’s go see Caps-Pens!”
by red army line on Aug 27, 2009 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think I bought tickets outside of Verizon for a Caps/Pens game during the pre-lockout season.
by gfcaps fan on Aug 27, 2009 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sure, but then they were begging you to buy them. For anything you wanted to pay.
by gfcaps fan on Aug 27, 2009 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Now, the scalpers beg you to sell them.
by gfcaps fan on Aug 27, 2009 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, I kinda miss those days, too. I don’t miss the loses, BTU I miss that spur of the moment walking down 7th street and going “What the hell, let’s go watch some hockey!”
by RedBirdie on Aug 27, 2009 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I miss it for about 5 seconds and then I’m like oh, other people are clapping, that’s a nice change.
by zephyr on Aug 27, 2009 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’d rather have 100,000 people scrapping for seats than 10,000 casually sauntering in. It’s usually an indication of a good product being put on the ice, and in the end, as a fan, isn’t that what we want for the team – to be successful?
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by winterion on Aug 27, 2009 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Obligatory Dan Snyder tangent post.
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by winterion on Aug 27, 2009 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like good product for good product, not for the lines and increased prices that are attendant with good product. If we could have a 55 win Caps team and yet I could still get $5 tickets and have plenty of room in the seats I wouldn’t mind.
A man must have a code.
by Fehr and Balanced on Aug 27, 2009 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
May as well watch it at home or at a Caps bar then, no?
I go to the games because I love the on ice product and the atmosphere.
by zephyr on Aug 27, 2009 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I usually watch at home. I go to 5-8 games a year I’d guess, though that would probably change if I had money. I like the in game experience but I don’t need the stadium to be packed to have fun. Hearing some jackass use some windup noise maker and shout at the ref to pick a broken stick up off the ice just doesn’t do it for me. A bar is absolutely the worst place to watch a game, IMO. If they aren’t playing the PxP on the PA then you have no real idea what is going on when they do reviews or on lots of penalties. It’s pretty tough to beat a comfy couch, cheap beer, and no stupid fans, so I don’t mind staying home.
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by Fehr and Balanced on Aug 27, 2009 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bars I go to just to watch hockey\mma you have your own audio control or it’s blaring over the PA like you said. Otherwise, yes, not a great atmosphere.
Anyway, my assumption was right that it doesn’t really matter to you since you watch from home for over 3s of the home games. For all the people that are going to the games this part of the discussion means a bit more to us.
Personally, I prefer to be at the game. My second option is at home. I tend to look at the 41 away games as my comfy couch time.
by zephyr on Aug 27, 2009 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah I can appreciate wanting a lively fan experience; I wouldn’t want to be the only guy in the arena. I’m just saying that good fans > more fans.
A man must have a code.
by Fehr and Balanced on Aug 27, 2009 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m just saying that good fans > more fans.
This is true with respect to both air circulation and sports viewing.
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by J.P. on Aug 27, 2009 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Haha — good stuff guys.
Yeah I’m with you F&B. My hope is that all of the more fans = decent fans given enough time.
It’s also nice having to worry about lousy cap fans compared to 8,000 Philly\Pens\Buffalo\whatever fans. It’s a luxury complaint.
by zephyr on Aug 27, 2009 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I should have added the corollary that home fans > away fans; even if it’s that jackass with his windup noisemaker shouting at the ref to pick up a stick behind the play.
A man must have a code.
by Fehr and Balanced on Aug 27, 2009 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Clever!
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by winterion on Aug 28, 2009 2:57 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’ve been thinking about it. It’s certainly cheap enough,
by gfcaps fan on Aug 27, 2009 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Heck, I’d say he’s a fine #2 even, if the D is used to him. Doesn’t he generally hover around top-20 ish in the NL?
by brs03 on Aug 27, 2009 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think pitching is as much about quantity as quality. Pitchers are so much more inconsistent, injury-prone, and unpredictable than position players that the best strategy is just to have a ton and see who you go with week to week.
Between Strasburg, Zimmermann (fingers crossed), Stammen, Balester, Martis, Lannan, Olsen, etc, and another pickup or two they should be able to field five good ones in a couple years – I just don’t know who they’ll be.
by David M. Getz on Aug 27, 2009 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kept hearing this refrain about the Orioles for the last 15 years or so. It’s never worked out.
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Aug 27, 2009 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What, Erik Bedard and Daniel Carbrera haven’t won Cy Youngs yet?
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by J.P. on Aug 27, 2009 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If Bedard could have stayed healthy that one year he would’ve gotten the Cy Young
by red army line on Aug 27, 2009 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Erik Bedard became Adam Jones. After that I don’t much care what he did. Man Seattle got hosed on that one.
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by Fehr and Balanced on Aug 27, 2009 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Erik Bedard also became George Sherrill. The trade that keeps on giving!
The Os apparently have the real deal in this Nolan Reimold kid. Color me shocked, but he’s being talked about as a potential Rookie of the year (alongside Rick Porcello of Detroit)
by RedBirdie on Aug 27, 2009 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
As an M's fan all I can say is "Ouch"
We begged and pleaded for that trade not to happen. Well, we ranted on blogs mostly(lookout Landing, another fine SBN site). The only good thing that came from that trade aside from a few good Bedard starts, was that it was a big nail in the coffin of GM Bill Bavasi.
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by Edanger6 on Aug 27, 2009 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey, Ricahrd Stahl and Adam Loewen could still pan out, you never know! Well, maybe not Loewen…
I think there is a key difference here – the Orioles pitchers had a tendency of getting hyped while they were in A ball while a decent number of the Nationals pitchers have at least had some measure of success in the majors.
by David M. Getz on Aug 27, 2009 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rocky Coppinger…Esteban Yan…Jimmy Haynes
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Aug 27, 2009 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Coppinger… there’s a name out of the past.
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by J.P. on Aug 27, 2009 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So the O’s pitchers are Borque/Osala/Neuvirth and the Nats pitchers are Juice/Erskine/Shamo?
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by Fehr and Balanced on Aug 27, 2009 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t really think that’s a fair comparison. Most of the Orioles pitchers burned out before they did much, if anything, at a level comparable to the AHL and most of the Nationals pitchers are in earlier stages of their careers.
by David M. Getz on Aug 27, 2009 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wasn’t trying to make a fair comparison. Just BSing a connection with the MVC polls.
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by Fehr and Balanced on Aug 27, 2009 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
the hand grenade in the NHL’s barrel of oatmeal.
R-E-C !!!!
by Uncle C on Aug 27, 2009 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep, that’s certainly a new one for me. Is this an oldie-but-goodie?
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by war_capitals on Aug 27, 2009 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oldie but goodie indeed.
The hand grenade in the barrel of oatmeal is a Foghorn Leghorn reference. “I say, I say that’s boy’s about as subtle as a hand grenade in a barrel of oatmeal.”
"It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees." - Delores Ibarruri
by gotsparkly on Aug 27, 2009 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
There should be an online Foghorn Leghorn Simile Dictionary. I’ve got some “free time” coming up after my current contract expires, maybe I’ll put that together?
Thanks for the knowledge drop, Sparkly!
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by war_capitals on Aug 27, 2009 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is seeing some airtime in my vocabulary. +1.
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by winterion on Aug 28, 2009 2:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Heh, that would be awesome. I miss the old cartoons.
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by gotsparkly on Aug 28, 2009 8:09 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
At this point it’s more like watching the Kings of last year, as long as he doesn’t watch anything from earlier in the season.
Obviously their record puts them out of anything meaningful, but the Riggleman Nats are basically a .500 team, and that’s pretty refreshing.
by brs03 on Aug 27, 2009 8:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Too small a sample. And, depending upon when AnGus got here, I’ll stick with my comparable, as the Nats are 2-7 in their last nine.
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by J.P. on Aug 27, 2009 8:34 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe Lil’Gus is a Nyjer Morgan fan. Or maybe he just really likes the outfield bar.
I dunno, there’s just something about baseball and August, no matter how bad the team is, that just feels right.
by RedBirdie on Aug 27, 2009 9:27 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, baseball and summer are pretty much synonymous to me :)
by kellobellow on Aug 27, 2009 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
summer is a little less wonderful: Nyjer Morgan broke his hand this afternoon. Out for the season :(
by RedBirdie on Aug 27, 2009 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
When his hand broke, my heart broke a little!
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by jakeshapiro on Aug 27, 2009 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gah! That sucks. :(
"It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees." - Delores Ibarruri
by gotsparkly on Aug 28, 2009 8:06 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I feel bad for Morgan. I don’t feel bad about Bryce Harper.
by David M. Getz on Aug 28, 2009 9:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And since we’re torturing hockey/Nats analogies, if the NHL buys the ’Yotes, they pretty much become the Montreal Expos, no?
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by J.P. on Aug 27, 2009 9:39 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, I tired to bring that up at “From the Rink” and how the aftereffects of MLB ownership are still being felt in DC, and someone told me “go jump on the Caps bandwagon!” Um, ok……..
But, yeah, I can’t see NHL ownership being a good thing for the ’yotes.
by RedBirdie on Aug 27, 2009 9:52 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Because that person who yapped at you is an idiot? Probably not, just someone who doesn’t know anything about baseball and therefore didn’t have a clue what you were talking about.
by gfcaps fan on Aug 27, 2009 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
To be fair, the person said there was room on the Capitals bandwagon, not "go jump on the Caps bandwagon!" (which is much more dismissive, imo).
It’d be easier to get upset about it if I didn’t have a half dozen friends who never gave a damn about the Capitals and suddenly think they’re the team’s biggest fan.
by David M. Getz on Aug 27, 2009 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
its the ongoing assumption that every Caps fan must be a bandwagoner that irritates me, everywhere I go. I thought it also deflected from the intent of my comment, which was that league ownership of a team is a scary proposition and those effects are felt for years afterward, even when the ownership changes (not that the Learners are all that great). The systematic gutting of the Expos/Nationals system, the do it cheap mantra, a half-assed GM engaged in questionable dealings? Its going to be felt on Half Street for a long, long time. Coyotes fans, and really, any one ho cares about hockey, should be very worried about the NHL taking ownership.
by RedBirdie on Aug 27, 2009 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why? The league has been run so well over the last 15 years… /snark
by Sct112 on Aug 27, 2009 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Right, but if I’m correct RedBirdie, you’re not Canadian. Stick to what you know.
/Americans have nothing to ad to hockey or the NHL
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by Fehr and Balanced on Aug 27, 2009 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ah, yes, thank you, I forget that some times! despite the accent, I’m just another dumb ’Mericun who should go back to watching football. yee haw!
by RedBirdie on Aug 27, 2009 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
its the ongoing assumption that every Caps fan must be a bandwagoner that irritates me, everywhere I go.
Jealousy is ugly in all its forms
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Aug 27, 2009 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The ’Yotes is actually my favorite line from The Hockey News article. Gary wants to add GM to his resume. HA.
by Sct112 on Aug 27, 2009 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think he was confusing the Presidents’ race for “baseball” Someone should tell him it’s actually the guys swinging the sticks at the balls in vain that’s the sport.
by gnuf on Aug 27, 2009 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey, the Nats have been doing better than normal recently—they might pass Kansas City and finish gasp 29th out of 30 instead of 30th out of 30 this year. Baby steps to becoming World Series champions!
"My face is my mask."
by jakeshapiro on Aug 27, 2009 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
On the one hand, watching them actually play not-last-place baseball is nice. On the other hand, Bryce Harper…
by brs03 on Aug 27, 2009 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Something to be said for a lottery system. The way the baseball draft is set up, there’s no incentive at this point for the Nats, as a team, to win. Individual players, however, have plenty of incentive.
by gfcaps fan on Aug 27, 2009 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The baseball draft is based on signability more than on talent, which is why guys like Luke Hochevar, Brian Bullington, and Matt Bush have all gone number 1 the last few years (the Nationals never even signed their first round pick from last year, Aaron Crow). You can finish last overall and not necessarily end up with the best overall talent that you can get in that spot.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Aug 27, 2009 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Aaron Crow didn’t sign this year, either, iirc.
by RedBirdie on Aug 27, 2009 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The deadline for him isn’t until a week (?) before next year’s draft, though. He’s no longer college eligible.
And that wasn’t a huge loss for the Nats I guess, at least they got Storen out of it.
by brs03 on Aug 27, 2009 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh, that’s right, I forgot he had different rules than Strasburg.
Storen seems like a great kid, in every way.
by RedBirdie on Aug 27, 2009 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bullington and Bush, maybe, but Hochevar had already been drafted twice, played in an indy and was/is represented by Boras.
by David M. Getz on Aug 27, 2009 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Speaking of Oatsie:
Does Backstrom = Oatsie Part Deux ?
Just a sick playmaker his entire career? People have referenced Forsberg in their comparisons but I think Nick will never have that rough, borderline dirty edge to his play. Backstrom is my second favorite Cap (and 2nd most important Cap, IMO). Love to watch his game.
by S h a g g y on Aug 27, 2009 9:03 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Backstrom’s a better goal scorer than Oates ever was. And his style of playmaking is very different. His “vision.” I hate to do this to the kid, but I do think Forsberg is a better comparable than Oates. I agree that Forsberg had more sandpaper to him.
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by Gould Old Days on Aug 27, 2009 9:15 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Oates and Backstrom are similar mainly based on the fact that they would much rather pass before shoot. Oates did score 45 goals in a year. It was a different time period, but still.
by bigmac1124 on Aug 27, 2009 9:20 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah but Oats would pass on an empty net. Backstrom is learning to shoot more and more. His shot totals will keep going up along with his goal totals.
Is he Oats 2.0 as far as the man who will be dishing out a lot of assists for the Caps? Yes. In other ways, not so much for me.
by zephyr on Aug 27, 2009 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree that Forsberg is a better comparable. While Baxter isn’t as gritty (now at least) as Forsberg, he has shown a much better ability to go into tight places and play the body than Oates. He is incredible along the boards and behind the net with the puck, and his knocking Callahan on his ass while carrying the puck in Game 3 against the Rags was a thing of beauty.
by Killer_Carlson on Aug 27, 2009 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah but he only got a secondary assist for it.
A man must have a code.
by Fehr and Balanced on Aug 27, 2009 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What? He dumped Callahan and fed Semin for a goal, if memory serves. That’s a primary last time I checked (pun not intended; that was never).
by red army line on Aug 27, 2009 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He dumped Callahan then slid the puck to AO at the side of the goal who then fed it across for Semin.
by Killer_Carlson on Aug 27, 2009 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I beat you to the explanation and the link. Suck it.
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by Fehr and Balanced on Aug 27, 2009 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nope. He fed AO below the goal line and AO cross-creased it to Semin.
A man must have a code.
by Fehr and Balanced on Aug 27, 2009 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think that when you get paid to wear your name on the back of a jersey, it isn’t a foul to have it there (even if it is the wrong sport). It would be a foul for GOD to have Old Days on the back of his Caps sweater/Nats jersey though.
by Sct112 on Aug 27, 2009 9:19 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Agreed. No foul in this setting. But if he wore it to a DCU game? Foul.
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by J.P. on Aug 27, 2009 9:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If he was a paying fan, foul. But if he was an invited guest?
Who knew that there were so many delicate rules for jersey fouls.
by Sct112 on Aug 27, 2009 9:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The notion of a jersey foul is well established by now. I’ve never heard what the PENALTY is for said foul, though. How about “wait in a 2-minute beer line for 10 minutes”? Oh wait…
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by war_capitals on Aug 27, 2009 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nice.
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by J.P. on Aug 27, 2009 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The whole jersey foul thing is starting to walk the line between pointing out genuinely horrid things and an excuse for the chatterati of the hockey world to turn up their noses at the hoi polloi.
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by gotsparkly on Aug 27, 2009 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Call me old fashioned but I don’t give a shit what you spend your money on. If you wear a silly jersey in public I’m gonna make fun of you, but I don’t feel the need to upload pics to the internet and make it a big “jersey foul” thing. If I catch you wearing an Alexei Yashin jersey, legit as it may be, I’m going to be at least as relentless on you as if you are wearing a real “jersey foul.”
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by Fehr and Balanced on Aug 27, 2009 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh, but its so much fun to make fun of my brother wearing his own name on the back of a Red Sox jersey! Doubly so because the boy just doesn’t get it. At all.
by RedBirdie on Aug 27, 2009 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I never said anything about not making fun. I’m just saying turning it into some formalistic code of behavior doesn’t suit my style.
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by Fehr and Balanced on Aug 27, 2009 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Right.
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by gotsparkly on Aug 27, 2009 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I did that to my first Spokane Chiefs jersey. My hockey goalie roommate never let me live it down (even though this was probably year zero of my hockey fan-dom).
Guilty as charged.
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by war_capitals on Aug 27, 2009 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have a lot of jerseys with my name and number on them, but it’s for house league. You never know what team you’re going to be on, and thus, what color you have to wear.
I’ve got my OV8 red for Caps games, but would really love a Bourque white (which I’ll pick up the instant I can manage it for about half of the currently-needed $200.)
Any chance there’s a jersey foul wiki?
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by winterion on Aug 28, 2009 3:02 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Any chance there’s a jersey foul wiki?
Not yet… I just checked.
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by war_capitals on Aug 28, 2009 9:33 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And I think it’d be a foul to have “Gould” on anything but a 1980s replica Caps jersey. Bob Gould’s name would just look wrong on today’s jerseys (and it would have been an abomination on anything with blue and copper).
The one I’m struggling with right now is a Soo Greyhounds Jersey. I own a greyhound, and I think that would be a pretty cool way to rock the red. But I don’t have any real connection to any current or former Soo players. My favorite player on the former players list is Ron Francis, so I’ve been thinking of getting a #10 Francis jersey. But here’s the question: Would it be a jersey foul to wear Francis’s name on the current Soo jersey? Here’s what the jersey Francis actually wore looks like.
Gratuitous jersey fouls: I could get one with my greyhound’s name on it, “Baxter.” Or even worse, I could get the word “Adopt” on the back. Maybe put an anti-dog-racing bumper sticker on my lower back. Because what every hockey game needs is more politics/advocacy for everyone’s pet issues.
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by Gould Old Days on Aug 27, 2009 9:31 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Current Caps radio analyst Ken Sabourin is a Greyhound alumnus, in case you want to go the “too cool for the room” route.
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by Bald Pollack on Aug 27, 2009 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pretty sure that getting a player’s name on a jersey he never wore is a foul. I mean, I’d consider a “Langway 5” on the new threads to be a bit odd, wouldn’t you?
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by J.P. on Aug 27, 2009 9:37 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rec’d for supporting adoption but knowing that it would create a jersey foul…
by CapitalCentre on Aug 27, 2009 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yup. If someone comes up and asks me about the jersey, I can start by telling them I’ve never been to Sault St. Marie in my life, and then if they’re interested I can do “the pitch.” But putting it on the jersey is a bit gauche.
But don’t get me started on what great pets greyhounds make. I can go for hours.
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by Gould Old Days on Aug 27, 2009 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If a team gives you the jersey it could say BigMuff on the back and not be a foul. It’s their jersey whatever they put on it and give to you is legit.
by zephyr on Aug 27, 2009 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually, I think BigMuff is so ridiculous that it defies being a jersey foul. kind of like McLovin’. Especially if you’re a dude.
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by Gould Old Days on Aug 27, 2009 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m in the non-foul camp for own name on jerseys.
by Scott in Shaw on Aug 27, 2009 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn’t do it, personally, but I have no problem with it, either.
by DrinkingPartner on Aug 27, 2009 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
A nightmare scenario for every team, including a pretty accurate one for the Caps. [The Hockey News]
The Montreal scenario is quietly brutal. But the Leafs is by far the best.
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by Gould Old Days on Aug 27, 2009 9:32 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
JP, thanks for the link to Svrluga’s article. He’s a real gem of a writer and I think us Caps fans were very lucky to have him covering the playoffs.
by RedBirdie on Aug 27, 2009 10:18 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Happy birthday to Oates, indeed. First hockey player I ever stood in line to get an autograph from, back in Detroit in 1987. Always loved the eyebrows.
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by boutros23 on Aug 27, 2009 10:32 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Where did Oates play in college?
by Moonage Daydream on Aug 27, 2009 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oatsie was one of those smart guys who went to RPI.
by b.orr4 on Aug 27, 2009 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Never drafted, either.
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by J.P. on Aug 27, 2009 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’d like to see a family sitcom featuring Baxter and Gus: Two Swedes in America! Nylander can be the grumpy old guy next door.
This has been the meatiest Caps Clips in a while. Delicious. October 1 is getting closer…
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by jakeshapiro on Aug 27, 2009 10:56 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I couldn’t resist…
Perfect Strangers!!!
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by war_capitals on Aug 27, 2009 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
20 days until NHL 10.
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by winterion on Aug 27, 2009 11:43 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
:: checks watch ::
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by Your Nation's Capital on Aug 27, 2009 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
how about now?
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by Gould Old Days on Aug 27, 2009 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’ve been playing the demo nonstop. It’ll be nice to play as a team other than the Red Wings and Pens. I’m quite impressed with what I’ve seen though. There are a lot more rebounds and dirty goals, which is great, and the boardplay is also a big plus.
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by jakeshapiro on Aug 27, 2009 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Unrelated: am I the only one who finds the “Two Oates, One Card” image a little creepy?
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by J.P. on Aug 27, 2009 1:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
No, it made me do a double take.
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by boutros23 on Aug 27, 2009 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Especially since one is a Mini-Oates. And then there’s the random Isles fan in the background, to boot.
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by J.P. on Aug 27, 2009 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
From back when Uncle Ted would actually sell a ticket to an Isles fan.
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by Your Nation's Capital on Aug 27, 2009 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The photo is most likely from a game at NYI back when they wore the darks on the road…the only time I ever recall the Caps wearing the blue sweater at home was an afternoon game against the Flyers, although the year escapes me at the moment.
by Kerry Fraser's Hairspray on Aug 27, 2009 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can we please go back to wearing colors on the road? It just makes more sense for the home fans to see everyone else’s colored jersey through the season.
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by Gould Old Days on Aug 27, 2009 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just made me think of this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDA8JB-jzOI
by zephyr on Aug 27, 2009 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Their names are “Primary” and “Secondary.”
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by Gould Old Days on Aug 27, 2009 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Slightly related: I thought the blue jerseys were much better than the other two jerseys from that era. I was sort of bummed out when it got scrapped.
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by jakeshapiro on Aug 27, 2009 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Ladies of The Rink’s favorite player speaks to TEB:
“David Steckel played all of last season with a finger that was damaged so badly he couldn’t bend it. Not even a little bit.
That finger, however, is now fully functional after a pair of surgeries this summer, the big center told me today following an informal practice at KCI.
The scar isn’t pretty. It runs across the knuckle of his right forefinger, and the digit still bends oddly in a place where a normal finger shouldn’t. But Steckel said he doesn’t care what it looks like. All that matters to him is that he finally can grasp his stick securely, put some zip on his shots and fire passes more accurately than he’s done since breaking the finger in March 2008."
As always, TEB does his old-school media best and churns out really good copy: http://voices.washingtonpost.com/capitalsinsider/catching-up-with-steckel.html#more
by RedBirdie on Aug 27, 2009 2:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Seriously. That means all of the PHI playoff series and the whole last season. Reminds me of the footage of Willie Mitchell’s hand during the playoffs, and the squeamish women behind him freaking out when they saw it.
A man must have a code.
by Fehr and Balanced on Aug 27, 2009 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So can one assume that he will be even better in the faceoff circle now that he’s got strength back in said digit?
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by J.P. on Aug 27, 2009 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe he’ll crack the Top 5 of valuable Caps.
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by Bald Pollack on Aug 27, 2009 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
the rest of the NHL trembles in fear of a more lethal Steckel.
by RedBirdie on Aug 27, 2009 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If we re-voted on “Most Valuable Cap,” he’d be between Ovechkin and Backstrom now.
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by J.P. on Aug 27, 2009 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And at the very least we’d have to hold the #1 vote.
A man must have a code.
by Fehr and Balanced on Aug 27, 2009 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No. OV, Li’l Gus, Stecks, Backstrom.
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by Your Nation's Capital on Aug 27, 2009 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
its the cartwheels that did it for me. swoon
by RedBirdie on Aug 27, 2009 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
May as well do a fan favorite poll after we’re done this one =]
by zephyr on Aug 27, 2009 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wasn’t aware there was a divergence between the fan favorite poll and the MVC poll.
A man must have a code.
by Fehr and Balanced on Aug 27, 2009 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
See you should have read the instructions F&B… or maybe you shouldn’t have read the instructions…
by Sct112 on Aug 27, 2009 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t need no instructions to know how to ROCK.
A man must have a code.
by Fehr and Balanced on Aug 27, 2009 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I was really hoping someone caught that because it made no sense otherwise.
A man must have a code.
by Fehr and Balanced on Aug 27, 2009 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
CARL!!! Wooo!
Aqua Teen Hunger Force FTW! (sorry, yet another post from me that has absolutely nothing to do with Caps hockey…)
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by war_capitals on Aug 27, 2009 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1 for Carl.
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by winterion on Aug 28, 2009 3:05 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Especially TBL.
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by Fehr and Balanced on Aug 27, 2009 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
the rest of the NHL trembles in fear of a more lethal Steckel.
You know there are more teams in the NHL than just the Tampa Bay Lightning, right?
by David M. Getz on Aug 27, 2009 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
His finger is coming in to camp in best shape of its life!
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by Your Nation's Capital on Aug 27, 2009 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
Hahah, that made me laugh for a good minute. Recaroni.
by zephyr on Aug 27, 2009 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
A Shout Out to John Walton Hockey
The new design looks great! Here’s the Giant Center rink crew installing the Bears and Caps logos pre-ice:
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by Your Nation's Capital on Aug 27, 2009 3:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
A closer look at that center stripe (via @banginpanger). Bad ass:
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by J.P. on Aug 27, 2009 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
one day, the Caps are going to be able to do that at the Booth. And it will be glorious.
by RedBirdie on Aug 27, 2009 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No link…
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by Gould Old Days on Aug 27, 2009 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Link up in the main article ^
or
johnwaltonhockey.com
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by Your Nation's Capital on Aug 27, 2009 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
For those who are as confused as I was, just look here at this link.
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by Gould Old Days on Aug 27, 2009 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually, this pic was in my comment, but has since disappeared. Odd.
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by J.P. on Aug 27, 2009 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The one you went with in today’s clips is even better
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Washington
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22 | 13 | 5 | 4 | 30 |
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Tampa Bay
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19 | 8 | 4 | 7 | 23 |
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Atlanta
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