Koivu and Morrison
Thanks to J.P. for the head start with your post on available centers. On that list, I think Saku Koivu and Brendan Morrison are the best available free agent centers who could fill in our second line center void. Don't misunderstand, I'm not necessarily advocating for us to sign either of them, but I'd like to run the scenario anyway. First of all we'd need cap space (read: dumping Michael Nylander's contract). On top of that, I'd rather trade for help or promote from within (at least to start) as we've got talent in the pipeline, and/or maybe pick up a guy at the deadline. Anton Gustafsson, Marcus Johansson, and maybe even Mathieu Perreault have a pretty darn good shot of taking the #2 center slot the season after next, so anyone we'd take I'd want for a year, or at most two.
On to Morrison and Koivu:
Saku Koivu is one of the classiest players in the league. He has been captain of the storied Montreal Canadiens for the past ten years. The Finn is an adept playmaker and has been the #1 center in Montreal for a decade, no small feat for a small skater, and his accolades include turning Richard Zednik into a 30-goal scorer. He is tough as they come, having survived stomach cancer in 2002 to return in time for the playoffs and win the Masterton Trophy for perseverance. This followed a long series of incomplete seasons after his rookie year in which he failed to play seventy games six years in a row. There is no doubt as to his quality, the doubt for me lies in his price tag and his durability.
Brendan Morrison is another classy player, someone who doesn't take a lot of penalties and has been very durable throughout his career, playing six straight seasons in Vancouver without missing a game until missing 43 games in 2008. He reutrned to his durable self last season appearing in 81 games split between the Ducks and Stars. In those seasons in Vancouver, he centered the vaunted duo of Markus Naslund and Todd Bertuzzi which soared to rare heights until , well, you know.
Similarities: Morrison and Koivu were taken in the same draft in 1993. Koivu went 21st overall to Montreal and Morrison 39th overall to New Jersey. There is a small age gap between them, with Koivu being slightly older (DOB: 11/23/74 to 8/15/75, so they are 34 and 33). They are similar in stature (Koivu 5'10, 182 to Morrison 5'11, 181). They have similar career stats:
Koivu: 792 GP, 191-450-641, 623 PIM, -10 career (66 PP, 9 SH, 35 GW)
Morrison: 755 GP, 175-330-505, 384 PIM +55 career (47 PP, 7 SH, 38 GW)
Koivu shoots a little more (1.96 Shots per game to 1.82), Morrison has a slightly better shooting % (12.7% to 12.3).
Differences: The major differences between these two players are few, but important. Koivu has been a fixture on the Canadiens since a 20 goal rookie campaign in 1996. He was an All-Star in 1998, he won the Masterton in 2002 and the King Clancy in 2007. He is also a fixture on Finnish international teams, including the 2006 Olympics. His NHL career has spanned more seasons than Morrison's (13 to 11, of which Morrison was a regular in 9) but he has not played in many more games because of his durability problems, including only playing in 65 games last year. Morrison's accolades all came before making the NHL, and he has represented Canada in the World Championships 3 times and played in Sweden during the lockout. Obviously Koivu is European trained and Morrison is Canadian trained and is a US College Hockey product (Michigan).
Advantages: Skill: Koivu has to be rated as a better playmaker, with a much higher assists per game ratio (.57 to .44), but he has also been the #1 guy for most of his career, while Morrison only held that mantle consistently for 6 years in Vancouver. Quality of linemates makes a big difference, just ask Wayne Gretzky after he moved to Los Angeles. Then again, their career highs are very similar. Koivu's best year came in 2006-07, where he played 81 games and scored 22-53-75 (all career highs). He has three 20-goal seasons (each of the only three seasons he played 81 or 82 GP) and has been in the 14-17 goal range every other season he played 50+ games. He has two seasons with 50+ assists (again 81 and 82 GP), four of 40+, and four of 30+ in which he's missed at least 17 games. He cetainly has the skill and a rate of production, but hasn't been able to string together consecutive great seasons due to injury. He's had many good seasons in a row since the cancer, though, but has still missed a number of games.
Morrison's career year came in 2002-03, when he had 25-46-71 (all career highs) in 82 games. His run in Vancouver was remarkable, though, as between 2000-01 and 2006-07 he put up seasons of 16-38-54, 23-44-67, 25-46-71, 22-38-60, 19-37-56, and 20-31-51 and didn't miss a game. That's consistency, even if it doesn't knock your socks off.
Durability: Morrison has to be rated as more durable because of the lack of time missed over his career.
Consistency: Morrison was a steady scorer while centering the Nalsund-Bertuzzi line, but Koivu has been pretty steady the entire time. Morrison takes fewer penalties (.51 PIM/game to Koivu's .79 PIM/game).
Play style: Neither of them hit very much, or block large numbers of shots. In the past three years they've both had pretty good takeaway to giveaway ratios. Koivu has been by far the better faceoff man, averaging about 53-54% over the past three years. Morrison was over 50% in his last full season in Vancouver, but has been around 45% since then.
Last Season: Koivu definitely had a better year. In 65 games he scored 16-34-50, +4 with 44 PIM. Morrison split 81 games between Dallas and Anaheim and had 16-15-31, +3 and 32 PIM. That said, Koivu had more special teams TOI and overall TOI while Morrison was stuck behind centers like Mike Ribeiro, Mike Modano, and Ryan Getzlaf.
Ice Time: For the last three seasons, here is each player's time on ice (Total, PP TOI, SH TOI):
Morrison: 2008-09 (14:12, 2:13, 0:30), 2007-08 (15:22, 3:22, 1:00), 2006-07 (17:57, 3:24, 2:16)
Koivu: 2008-09 (17:03, 3:35, 1:16), 2007-08 (18:07, 3:30, 1:23), 2006-07 (18:06, 3:59, 1:49)
As you can see, Morrison's Ice time has diminished significantly. The reasons why? In 06-07, he was still the main man, or close to it, in Vancouver, as a #1/2 Center. The next season he only played 39 games due to injury, and the Sedin twins were taking over anyway. Last season he bounced between two teams, including 62 games on a deep Ducks team that already had Ryan Getzlaf and Todd Marchant. Looking back to 2006-07, their ice time is comparable, but Koivu has been the man in Montreal the whole time.
Playoffs: Koivu: 54 GP, 16-32-48, +11, 42 PIM, 1 GWG
Morrison: 53 GP, 8-20-28, -4, 38 PIM, 2 GWG
Both players have been to the second round twice. Morrison played 10 games in New Jersey before becoming the #1 center in Vancouver, where he had three decent playoff years (1-2-3 in 4 GP in 2001 when Naslund got hurt, 4-7-11 in 14 GP in 2003, and 2-3-5 in 7GP in 2004 when Bertuzzi was suspended.) For every good year, though, it seems like he puts up a stinker. Koivu seems to be decent every time.
Price: Koivu might not command the $4.75 mil he earned last year, but you can bet he'll come close. He's a darn fine playmaker and has been a good #1 center for a long time. He's won two NHL awards, been an All-Star, won Olympic Medals, and been a Captain for 10 years. He's earned it.
Morrison earned $2.75 mil last year, and you can be sure he'll have a tough time getting that again after last year.
Contract: In terms of affordability, Morrison is going to come cheaper and is likely willing to play on a one-year deal to try to prove himself again to get another, better deal after next year. We might be able to get him under $2.5 mil. We'd be hard pressed to get Koivu at under $4 mil and for less than 2 years unless we dangle the prospect of a Stanley Cup at him. Koivu's got more upside and more injury concerns. Morrison is less likely to be missed if we don't renew his contract and is more durable and cheaper.
If I had my druthers, I'd take Koivu for more money and hope he stays healthy, even if I've gotta take him for an extra year (no NMC/NTC, though). I think he'll be a better veteran presence, he's a better playmaker, and he's better in the playoffs. He could also be a mentor potentially for Oskar Osala.
Morrison isn't bad though, he's maybe a half-step down as a playmaker, but he knows he's a complementary player and won't hog the spotlight (not that Koivu would). Like Knuble with Ovechkin, Morrison with Semin will probably be a good match. Morrison can lug the puck but doesn't have to, and he'll be the defensive conscience for a player with sick skills and whoever else plays on that line and make Semin look good. He's had some decent playoff performances, but certainly doesn't have Koivu's numbers.
If I had to guess who we'd sign, it would be Morrison. He's cheaper and could likely be signed for a shorter contract, he's more of a complementary player (like Knuble). He's durable, can play special teams, doesn't take a lot of penalties, he can skate two ways, and he knows how to set up very talented players. I don' t know how he is as a leader or in the locker room, but I didn't hear complaints. Morrison has the college hockey background that McPhee likes and maybe that change of pace on the scoring lines of being North American instead of all European like last season. Morrison will also be playing to redeem himself, coming off a stinky year. I don't know that Koivu will have the same motivation. I think Koivu is looking for something stable, not to be a short term fix, and I don't think we'll provide that.
They are both classy professionals, and I'd love to have Koivu, but I think Morrison is a better fit in terms of what McPhee looks for and what we need and vs what we can get. I think 1-2 years at 2 to 2.5 mil would be reasonable as a bridge to our youngsters.
Semin has been lacking a true playmaking pivot for pretty much his entire Washington career. He had someone good on his line for most of this past year and we finally saw what he's capable of when he plays with talented linemates. Give him a playmaker like Morrison or Koivu and he'll take off. Morrison may not put up huge numbers, but if Semin does, he won't have to.
By all means tell me what you think and who we could get in a trade. (And don't say Marc Savard).
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Very interesting and thorough. Based on this, I’d actually go the other way and look for a durable Morrison instead of Koivu… To me its all about the cap next year and room this year. Morrison in your scenario provides both while Koivu provides higher scoring potential.
Regardless, I really don’t see any move being made. This team is good enough to get into the playoffs as is. Ted’s not going to let a 4 mil player just not play. If GMGM can’t move him, he plays for the regular season. It’ll be more likely GMGM goes for someone at the deadline to play in Nyles’ playoff spot if anything. Sooner or later Nyles will either be traded or his contract will expire, until then he’s your #2 center.
Also while I have the floor… Kudos to MP, BP, G.O.D., Dohboy, Jschon and all of you guys/gals who supplement the fine work here at Japers. I’m more of a lurcker than a poster and you guys really put a ton of work in on these comments and side posts. Just wanted to say Thanks!
I have to go with MetalCap (and thank you dude, and kudos to the crowd here as well, they’re what keep me coming back). I think we’re best off going with what we’ve got for now and giving our existing guys the opportunity to step up and make something happen like Backstrom and Varlamov have. We’ve got enough to get us through the regular season, and we’ve got to leave room to move for something at the deadline if that becomes necessary; we don’t want a repeat of last year.
"It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees." - Delores Ibarruri
If we sign another guy, I don’t want anymore “Classy” guys, I want grit. Not necessarily dirt, but grit. Neither of these guys work with that.
I'm so sick and tired of the refs explaining the calls like this is the NFL.
Why would you want Grit for a second line center. You would need a playmaker that will complement Semin.
by CapsFanSince1979 on Jul 7, 2009 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions
No, Semin can score without him, and I don’t think Semin should be on the second line. Put him on the first, make a gritty scoring second line. There are players who can be productive and provide grit, looking back, Dale Hunter, Bobby Holik, I mean, they’re out there. I don’t really think we need to pick anyone up though.
I'm so sick and tired of the refs explaining the calls like this is the NFL.
you already got Knuble for grit as well.
by RedskinFan4Life on Jul 7, 2009 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Great job. I personally believe they will go with what they have and see how it works. It would be a surprise for them not to make the playoffs and they will use the regular season to season if Nylander bounces back, how Laich plays center for a year and whether guys like Bourque make it in the NHL. If any of those fail then they will fill the appropriate holes with the cap space they have (by being patient) via trade or free agents sitting at home (Sundin…I dream).
by CapsFanSince1979 on Jul 7, 2009 11:41 AM EDT reply actions
I just look at who’s available via trade and/or free agency. Koivu and Morrison seemed like true upgrades over what we have now. Jason Williams might be a good fit, but I don’t see him as significantly better than Brooks Laich. I think he’d be fine here, but why do that?
Other players available via trade include Patrick Marleau ($6.5 cap hit) and Jason Arnott ($4.5) and they’re too expensive. Other free agent centers include Mike Comrie, who’s coming off a sub-par year and is a me-first person. Mike Sillinger is 38. Lang would be good, and I like him, but again, he’s 38, and like Sillinger, is coming off a major injury last season. And at what cost do we get them? The other guys on that list don’t even fit with what we need.
The other interesting guy available via trade? Jeff Halpern. With one year and $2 million left on his contract, we could ship salary eater Morrisonn down there (and whatever other ancillaries like picks and prospects, I don’t really care) since Tampa loves former Caps and needs defenseman. Halpern is a fan favorite, brings grit and such, but he’s really a high #3/low #2 center at his peak. Again, I don’t see him as an upgrade over Laich, who had 53 points and was the #35 highest scoring center in the NHL last season, which, if I’m not mistaken, would put him in #2 center scoring territory, ahead of guys like Brendan Morrison, Todd Marchant, Keith Tkachuk, Jason Williams, Mike Modano, Michael Nylander, and higher than guys who had injuries, like Robert Lang, Saku Koivu, Andy McDonald, Tim Connolly, Brad Richards, Sergei Fedorov, and Doug Weight, and, of course, Mats Sundin. He was also within 5 points of such vaunted centers as Jason Arnott (57), Olli Jokinen (57), Chris Drury (56), and Scott Gomez (58). I think Koivu and Morrison are true upgrades that have potential to work, I think Jason Williams is maybe a slight upgrade (with skill being the priority). Morrison and Williams could be had for less than $3 million, making them affordable. I don’t see Koivu taking less than $4 million.
I think Laich is the logical choice. If Nylander can be the Nylander from 2007-08 (healthy and producing), I don’t have a problem keeping him, but what are the odds of that after last season? We already know Nylander-Semin is a breakaway against waiting to happen. Anton Gustafsson and Marcus Johansson aren’t ready yet. Keith Aucoin might not be bad, but is he really a #2 NHL centerman? Is Mathieu Perreault, another midget like Aucoin, ready to be a #2 NHL center? I don’t see anyone else being a capable #2 center on the roster.
Honestly, if we can get Morrison at $2-2.5 for one year, we shuold grab him. If we can get Williams at 1 year for $2 mil or under, I’d be okay with it. As for Koivu, it would be up to GMGM to decide whether he wants someone of that stature on the roster, because he won’t be cheap, but he’d be a hell of a guy to have on the team.
Barring those moves, Laich should be the man to beat for #2 center. If Nylander’s still here at training camp, I think he has to earn it by beating Laich out for the spot. I also say give Perreault a shot in camp to see what he could do. He had a very solid rookie campaign in the AHL. I think he’s better off with another year in the AHL, but hey, you never know.
why not savard
I think we should get savard he would be a very good 2nd line center. Also if boston is desperate to trade kessel and we give a decent package maybe it could happen
We’ve talked some about Savard, and there’s no denying that he and Ovechkin had some seriously sexy chemistry at the ASG last year. The problem there is twofold: (1) we’d pretty much have to move either Nylander or Theodore to do it, and that’s going to be tough; and (2) Savard’s got an NTC that he said he’d only waive for teams in southern Ontario (i.e. a team that takes him closer to his kids). Washington doesn’t exactly fit that.
"It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees." - Delores Ibarruri
Savard is expensive. Not that I don’t like him, but he’ll cost us $5 mil. Thanks gotsparkly for the rest of the argument.
I like Kessel, too. But again, why trade for a young guy when we’ve got talent in the system. Kessel is going to want serious money and we’re not going to want to pay serious money. He’s also going to take a serious package to pry away from Boston.
Not that I’m against trading with Boston, though, we seem to fleece them every time. It might be worth trading with them just to become a better team.
See below:
Al Iafrate for Joe Juneau 1994. Wild Thing pretty much retired upon putting on the black helmet over his combover mullet. Juneau was a staple on the team for five years, put up decent numbers, set a couple playoff records, and scored the goal to send us to the Cup Final. We also got what was considered a good return at the time when we shipped him to Buffalo (which later turned into Jason Marshall, a deadline pickup of our own.)
Jason Allison, Anson Carter, Jim Carey and a 3rd round pick for Adam Oates, Rick Tocchet and Bill Ranford, 1997.
This kinda went both ways. Jason Allison was a young prospect who blossomed into a great center, but to be fair, Adam Oates’s tenure with the Caps was as good for as long, as Allison is no longer playing, and we traded Oates away for serious stuff in 2002. Besides a good year in ‘06 with the Leafs, Allison’s career ended the same time Oates left DC. Bill Ranford for Carey was a slight win for us, Ranford was our backup for a year after the trade, insurance, and played well in relief of Kolzig. Even though Ranford was much older, he did more after that trade than Vezina-winner Carey ever did.
Tocchet would have been good if he’d stayed longer, but we won the Eastern Conference the next year without him (think he would have bet on that? OK, that was bad). Carter became an effective 20-goal scorer in Boston. We may have lost that one, but it didn’t seem to hurt us at the time. The third round pick was Lee Goren (who?).
2004-03-03 — acquired Shaone Morrisonn, 2004 first round pick (#27-Jeff Schultz), and 2004 second round pick (#62-Mikhail Yunkov) from Bruins for Sergei Gonchar.
Gonchar has gone on the become a more effective defenseman than he was here, but very expensive. Getting two defensemen who are still here, and potentially Yunkov, for Gonchar, who left Boston as a free agent at the end of the year after a first-round exit, is a win.
Michael Nylander traded to Boston by Washington for Boston’s 4th round compensatory choice (Patrick McNeill) in 2005 Entry Draft and Boston’s 2nd round choice (Francois Bouchard) in 2006 Entry Draft, March 4, 2004.
If Bouchard turns out to be anything, this is a win for us, as Nylander left Boston at the end of the season, too.
Milan Jurcina traded to Washington by Boston for Washington’s 4th round choice (later traded to Calgary – Calgary selected T.J. Brodie) in 2008 Entry Draft, February 1, 2007. Milan Jurcina is still with us, never heard of the draft pick. Jurcina has also given us all something to laugh about and complain about.
We also picked up Joe Murphy and Benoit Hogue off waivers from Boston in the past 8 years.
by Marshall Pirate on Jul 8, 2009 12:11 PM EDT reply actions

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