Thursday Caps Clips: Lots of Love for Orlov
by J.P. on Jul 16, 2009 6:42 AM EDT
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Your savory breakfast links:
- Today at Development Camp: 10 a.m.: Group B on ice; 11:15 a.m.: Group A on ice; 3:30 p.m.: Intrasquad scrimmage.
- Day three of Development Camp in the books...
- This may be John Carlson's camp, but it was Dmitri Orlov's day, and he is well on his way to being this summer's revalation (which isn't entirely surprising). A sampling of the praise: He "was adept at keeping the puck in at the blueline on the power play and was solid all over the ice. His passes were sharp and he showed a willingness to use his body." (Vogs) He "has big-hit ability to go with his big shot. (Tarik). And so on.
- Team White beat Team Blue in the first scrimmage of camp, with Team White getting goals from Michal Dubuc (3), Trevor Bruess and Sean Backman and solid goaltending from Braden Holtby (pictured, and awesomely) and Team Blue getting tallies from Dmitry Kugryshev, Carlson and Orlov.
- Additional practice/scrimmage coverage from CK (who has video evidence of Stefan Della Rovere knocking Joe Finley over), Puckhead's Thoughts and Peerless (twice), as well as pics from Caps In Pictures (here, too).
- Della Rovere was a wrecking ball all day (until he hurt himself, that is), which is just Delly being Delly. [Washington Times]
- Trevor Bruess was impressed by the crowd and Joe Finley was impressed by Trevor Bruess.
- 2009 fifth-round pick Brett Flemming "looks like a hockey player." [Welcome to the Show]
- This may be John Carlson's camp, but it was Dmitri Orlov's day, and he is well on his way to being this summer's revalation (which isn't entirely surprising). A sampling of the praise: He "was adept at keeping the puck in at the blueline on the power play and was solid all over the ice. His passes were sharp and he showed a willingness to use his body." (Vogs) He "has big-hit ability to go with his big shot. (Tarik). And so on.
- Alex Ovechkin thinks GMGM isn't done tinkering with the team. [Alex Ovetjkin]
- The NHL schedule was released yesterday afternoon, and the Caps are likely looking at five appearances on Hockey Night in Canada (including the first Saturday of the season and a game in Montreal in late November that is about "50/50" to be played at Olympic Stadium), one NBC game (you'll never guess against whom) and potentially seven appearances on Versus (including Opening Night).
- The Caps will be racking up more frequent flyer miles than they did a year ago. [On the Forecheck]
- The League blew it by leaving the Caps out of the Winter Classic. [ESPN]
- The League also blew it by not re-launching the season post-Olympics with a Caps/Pens game on the Mall. [Globe & Mail]
- The Caps have a doozy of a schedule for the first half of October with a softer end to the month. Anyone want to wager the half in which they perform better? [CK]
- You know you're a legend when you walk into a building that has a two-story tall banner of your likeness hanging at one end of the main rink, and that's what Dale Hunter saw in person for the first time yesterday. Tarik caught up with him, as did Vogs (video).
- In case you missed it, Jeff Schultz didn't sign his Qualifying Offer by yesterday's 5:00 p.m. deadline. Or did he? He didn't. Or did he?
- Olie Kolzig's charity golf tourney is this weekend, in case you happen to be in the neighborhood. [KNDO]
- On this day back in 1990, the St. Louis Blues signed Scott Stevens. Grr...
- Finally, Happy 43rd Birthday to Mikhail Tatarinov.
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Bruess, just you wait until Saturday. That joint will be packed to the walls.
I liked what I saw of Cody Eakin as well – kid’s got wheels that won’t quit, but he didn’t seem to control the play as much as he followed it. I was on the far end of the ice, though, so I missed some stuff.
"It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees." - Delores Ibarruri
by gotsparkly on Jul 16, 2009 6:57 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Tatarinov, that’s a trip back through time. Monster shot from what little I remember.
"Yes, It is a 'Beautiful Game.' It's because we see something meaningful that we hope to someday, somehow, see in ourselves."
by Bald Pollack on Jul 16, 2009 7:14 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think this is the stupidity on the part of the hockey players and their agents. You need to respect your team. If you have signed the contract, oblidge to it and do not flee at once. Otherwise what were you thinking when you were signing it? Personally I’d put the human relationships ahead of the money considerations. We can’t let the employer down like that.
That’s Ambassador Ovie, from this link. Stone cold stud, and such a class guy. How did we get so fortunate?
by Your Nation's Capital on Jul 16, 2009 8:08 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Anyone who’s going to the scrimmage today-I’ll be there in my Hershey Bears Keith Aucoin shirt. Come say hi!
by thehoagster07 on Jul 16, 2009 8:20 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I know its subject to change, but why is NBC suddenly so down on the Caps? Only one obvious broadcast this coming season, and they were clearly the ones that pulled the plug on us in the Winter Classic. Were our ratings THAT bad in the playoffs? I’ll personally take Joe B and Locker any day over the Peacock announcers but…..just curious.
by Cluster on Jul 16, 2009 8:40 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
CSN set record numbers in the playoffs. and i’d rather have the caps not play at all on NBC, their guys can be real idiots
by hockeyman33 on Jul 16, 2009 8:49 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Let’s see… Found ratings for every playoff game on NBC since the lockout on PtM.
Apparently our first game on NBC last season only drew a .8, which is tied (with quite a few other games) for the second-lowest rating, so yeah, I guess we didn’t do too well…
That said, the games on MSG Network were the highest-rated hockey games in 12 years, and like hockeyman said, CSN set records as well. And yeah, Joe B. and Craig are far superior to NBC’s crew (McGuire and his god damn blackberry…)
by Murshawursha on Jul 16, 2009 8:51 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe part of that is NBC never tells anyone that they’re having a game until 5 minutes before it starts, except for the Winter Classic of course
by red army line on Jul 16, 2009 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who cares what channel the Caps are on?! It doesn’t impact how/what they do on the ice.
by TylerG on Jul 16, 2009 9:05 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, it doesn’t impact their performance, but most people prefer to have it on CSN. mainly because of the broadcasters
by hockeyman33 on Jul 16, 2009 9:09 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Huh? The point was that if you’re watching from home, Joe and Craig are more pleasing to the ear than Pierre McGuire and friends. There was not statement about the level of the caps play.
Because now I can justify browsing and commenting during the work day with the argument that I am promoting my business.
by Sombrero Guy on Jul 16, 2009 9:10 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, it matters for Caps fans who may not live in the D.C. area… I have a friend going to school in Colorado who can only watch the games when their on NBC or Versus.
That, and getting exposure outside of the local area is always nice. I’m kind of excited we’ve got a decent number of games on HNIC… To me, being picked by them means way more than being picked by NBC.
by Murshawursha on Jul 16, 2009 9:10 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, it’s also nice when even idiots realize you’re good, and not just the smart people
by red army line on Jul 16, 2009 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who cares what channel the Caps are on?! It doesn’t impact how/what they do on the ice.
Disagree. I refuse to believe Pierre McGuire yelling between the benches has no impact the teams.
by David M. Getz on Jul 16, 2009 9:11 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who pee’d in your Cheerios?
by Moonage Daydream on Jul 16, 2009 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Suspect # 1
Suspect #2
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by Gould Old Days on Jul 16, 2009 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who cares what the initial, minor, harmless question was?! It doesn’t impact the antagonistic/elitist tone of Tyler G’s response.
by Cluster on Jul 16, 2009 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
I've gotten used to it.
There are a few people on this blog who come off as arrogant and elitist, and it drives me nuts too, but I find that it’s not worth getting all up in a tiff about. Even though the majority of the people here are awesome, I come here for the analysis, not the personalities, so I made a pretty recent decision to ignore the handful of people who aren’t.
That arrogance on a blog gives the blog a bad reputation isn’t my problem, but is a word to the wise ….
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by gotsparkly on Jul 16, 2009 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The few. The proud. The arrogant.
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by J.P. on Jul 16, 2009 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You gotta write this blog with fear and arrogance.
“Fear and ignorance.”
No! Fear and arrogance, you hayseed, not ignorance!!
“I know. I just like to see you get all worked up.”
If you've read this far...seek help.
by ThePeerless on Jul 16, 2009 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Godfrey doesn’t sound like he has been impressing people, and if his D is still such a problem after a full pro-year I’m not that confident that he’s going to be able to move above the other offensive D on the depth chart. I could easily see him becoming trade bait.
by Fehr and Balanced on Jul 16, 2009 8:47 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Agree on the trade bait comment. Though I hope he gets a little bit more time Hershey to see if a year in the ECHL has helped him at all.
by Yoshietree on Jul 16, 2009 8:56 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do you mean trade market? There is going to be a trade market for a young prospect with that kind of shot. Once he proves he can’t play D his market will plummet but I think he’s young enough that he hasn’t killed his trade value yet. He may still become a good player but with Green, Carlson, Orlov and some of the other prospects we have on the blue line I don’t see Godfrey making it with us.
by Fehr and Balanced on Jul 16, 2009 9:34 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hope you’re right, I’d love to see him re-emerge as an asset. But for now: There isn’t much of a trade market for ‘prospects’ who can’t break out of the ECHL. At this point, that’s what Godfrey is.
And frankly I haven’t seen the booming shot out of him in scrimmages, last year or this year. I’ve heard about it too, but it doesn’t count for much if you can’t get it off.
by TylerG on Jul 16, 2009 9:39 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’ve heard about it too, but it doesn’t count for much if you can’t get it off.
Hey, I thought we were done discussing the team’s case again Milan Jurcina.
by David M. Getz on Jul 16, 2009 9:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He got stuck in the ECHL because of an extremely deep organization, and I think most scouts/GMs realize that. Hershey and SC won their championships so he was stuck behind quality players, and still played on a quality team. In response to your “Prospect to suspect” comment below: Almost all prospects are in some way suspect, there are very few sure things. We knew from the start that Godfrey’s problem was in his own end so I don’t really think much has changed.
by Fehr and Balanced on Jul 16, 2009 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And you’ve been too scrimmages this year?
by Yoshietree on Jul 16, 2009 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think the question is what kind of market there is. I don’t doubt there are a lot of NHL teams that would like to take on Godfrey and see if he pans out; whether or not they’re willing to give up anything is another question.
by David M. Getz on Jul 16, 2009 9:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If someone will give WSH a fifth or a sixth for him, move him. The players definitely ahead of him are: Alzner, Carlson and now Orlov. The players who are likely ahead of him include: Dovgan, Flemming and maybe/probably Mestery. (And I’m not counting AHL vets like Sloan/Collins types.) I mean, when you’re seventh on a team’s prospect depth chart at a position and stuck in the ECHL to boot, you’re expendable.
by TylerG on Jul 16, 2009 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
A 5th or a 6th isn’t really worth it. What are they odds that the player chosen that late is going to be anymore of a help than Godfrey? At least his “PP QB” reputation makes him attractive to any organization thin with offensive D.
by Fehr and Balanced on Jul 16, 2009 10:01 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And really I don’t think Godfrey would be traded straight up, prospects are usually part of a package. Godfrey + Juice would get a better return than if we traded both in separate transactions. I think that is a more likely scenario than trading a prospect for a late round pick in July-September.
by Fehr and Balanced on Jul 16, 2009 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But Dovgan may not be in the team’s plans and Flemming & Mestery are both headed back to their junior clubs. There’s still other competition like Miskovic and McNeill but there’s a window of opportunity for him if he grabs it. I don’t see a real need to dump him for peanuts at the moment.
by Langway on Jul 16, 2009 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How much do you really need back if he’s not contributing? Ted Ruth for Fedorov makes me optimistic.
by Fehr and Balanced on Jul 16, 2009 10:01 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that really has to be one of the greatest trades ever.
by RedBirdie on Jul 16, 2009 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It worked out for the Capitals but they got 18 games from an aging second line center for a guy who’s still only 20 and hasn’t played professionally yet. “One of the greatest trades ever” is a little premature and pretty overstated at that.
Now the Sutherby-for a pick-for Huet sequence: that was impressive.
by David M. Getz on Jul 16, 2009 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
To his (slight) defense, Godfrey came into this year’s d-camp a little tweaked from what I recall.
"Yes, It is a 'Beautiful Game.' It's because we see something meaningful that we hope to someday, somehow, see in ourselves."
by Bald Pollack on Jul 16, 2009 9:01 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Godfrey has slipped from prospect to suspect. He was extremely unimpressive yesterday.
by TylerG on Jul 16, 2009 9:06 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He yapped a lot. Hit the boards. Slashed a guy in the leg. All of which means that OFB likely prefers Godfrey, an ECHLer, to Jeff Schultz.
by TylerG on Jul 16, 2009 9:11 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mobile/virtual rec?
"Yes, It is a 'Beautiful Game.' It's because we see something meaningful that we hope to someday, somehow, see in ourselves."
by Bald Pollack on Jul 16, 2009 9:14 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Gracias amigo.
"Yes, It is a 'Beautiful Game.' It's because we see something meaningful that we hope to someday, somehow, see in ourselves."
by Bald Pollack on Jul 16, 2009 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
* The League blew it by leaving the Caps out of the Winter Classic. [ESPN]
* The League also blew it by not re-launching the season post-Olympics with a Caps/Pens game on the Mall. [Globe & Mail]
“And the league blew it by putting the fix in for other teams, and instructing the Referees to have the calls go the other way!”
by Gould Old Days on Jul 16, 2009 9:14 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Why did I look at that and think, “Sidney Crosby in 2030.”
If you've read this far...seek help.
by ThePeerless on Jul 16, 2009 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
no no no, I think that’s his dad. Remember when he was apparently writing threatening letters to sportswriters who dared to suggest that Ovechkin was the better rookie?
by RedBirdie on Jul 16, 2009 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m going to have to dig it up…..give me some time.
by RedBirdie on Jul 16, 2009 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Even at age 43, I bet Tatarinov is still uncoachable….
Let's go Caps!
by MikeL-Caps on Jul 16, 2009 9:59 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Crosby won best hockey player at the ESPYs, again. What a crock.
by RedBirdie on Jul 16, 2009 10:07 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
What’s an ESPY?
"Yes, It is a 'Beautiful Game.' It's because we see something meaningful that we hope to someday, somehow, see in ourselves."
by Bald Pollack on Jul 16, 2009 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Better question is what does ESPN have to do with hockey?
by vt caps fan on Jul 16, 2009 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That is a crock. I think it should have gone to Malkin since the ESPYs are voted on after the playoffs.
by zephyr on Jul 16, 2009 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Dunno if you were serious or not, but it’s funny.
"Yes, It is a 'Beautiful Game.' It's because we see something meaningful that we hope to someday, somehow, see in ourselves."
by Bald Pollack on Jul 16, 2009 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
What, you think winning the Art Ross and Conn Smythe trophies mean you’re the best player? Clearly you don’t know hockey as well as the average ESPN viewer.
by grapejoos on Jul 16, 2009 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
“what does ESPN have to do with hockey?”
You mean besides epic fails in the fact check department?
by RedBirdie on Jul 16, 2009 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The best question is who do I have to pay (and how much) to have all mention of ESPN banned from this site?
by Yoshietree on Jul 16, 2009 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The question isn’t “who,” it’s “how much,” Yosh, and my ears are open…
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by J.P. on Jul 17, 2009 7:26 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
A trinket bestowed upon fan favorites by the Extra Special Penguin Network…
Officially, they are the Excellence in Sports Performance Yearly Awards. Now there is a tortured acronym.
If you've read this far...seek help.
by ThePeerless on Jul 16, 2009 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But I bet Ovechkin won best football player
by amkcaps on Jul 16, 2009 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You know, I had forgotten all about that. And I voted in the stupid thing. But honestly, who gives a ****?
by gfcaps fan on Jul 16, 2009 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
October madness
The Caps have a doozy of a schedule for the first half of October with a softer end to the month. Anyone want to wager the half in which they perform better?
If last season is any indicator, the Caps will excel in the first half of the month against the better competition…one area I hope Woods and BB help improve the team’s play is better preparation against the lower level comp…The Caps simply must do better than this, and particularly against these teams to capture the top seed overall.
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by bigonetimer on Jul 16, 2009 10:08 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think we all know where Mr. Holtby wants to play next year…. Love the mask
by amkcaps on Jul 16, 2009 10:26 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think we all know where Mr. Holtby wants to play next year…. Love the mask
“Put me in Coach…I’m ready to play…today!”
by Your Nation's Capital on Jul 16, 2009 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Look at me… I can be… A starting goalie… in Hershey?
by Murshawursha on Jul 16, 2009 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like the way the Caps schedule looks this year. October seems like it’s going to be a great test for the Caps right off the bat.
The NBC schedule looks pretty hilarious as usual. Every week it’s the Rags, Flyers, or PItts.
I keep telling myself I’m not going to come to every game this year like I did last year but once the season starts it never feels like a 3 hour round trip to work. I can’t risk missing the possible history making hockey Ovechkin can do any given game either.
by zephyr on Jul 16, 2009 10:27 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
MAYBE more Americans would follow hockey if it didn’t appear there are only 6 teams in the league still by, I dunno, switching up the teams they air now and then?!?! But let’s not expect NBC to shy away from the ratings in favor of a better product, it’s a Pay Me Now world we live in and they’re just goin’ for theirs.
On the flipside, if we complain about these teams being on all the time, we shouldn’t complain when we get a barn-burner like Atlanta-Florida. Still, I find it difficult to believe that Canadian teams on the weekly broadcast get THAT much lower ratings? Perhaps the data bears this out, sorry for the unsupported speculation here.
Could/would Comcast ever align themselves with TSN? Does anyone get this channel locally here around DC?
by war_capitals on Jul 16, 2009 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Isn’t there a difference between complaining about the same 3 teams being played every week and terrible teams playing each other?
I’m fine with a happy medium like showing that there are teams other than Detroit and Chicago in the western conference. Show San Jose some time, etc…
by zephyr on Jul 16, 2009 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bingo. I see ratings death by both those means in my opinion, but I’m sure NBC is squeezing every ratings point they can out of showing those 3 teams all the time. It’s just hard to believe that those markets are the only ones that show up on Nielsen ratings, despite the fact that there are ~21 other US markets they could/should at least TRY tapping into every now and then. I’d have to wager that most REAL hockey fans would be more impressed with a variety of teams being shown, yet the Peacock has spoken (Nyahh).
There isn’t a winter that goes by that I’m not grateful to Comcast for getting to see our boys almost every single game. I feel for those of you dispersed around the country who are so often left out in the cold.
by war_capitals on Jul 16, 2009 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Here here. And I live in the local market.
by Fehr and Balanced on Jul 16, 2009 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hear hear. Too bad Comcast charges an arm and a leg for it.
"It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees." - Delores Ibarruri
by gotsparkly on Jul 16, 2009 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s not Comcast, it’s the NHL. I’d guess the cable companies get a small (or ridiculous) fee for each contract.
by gfcaps fan on Jul 17, 2009 9:26 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The online version is very good too, although it’s a load of crap that a) there is no discount/package deal with the TV version, and b) nationally broadcast games are blacked out on it, even though it would be a direct online feed of the broadcast with commercials and all. Still trying to figure out how any of that makes business sense for the NHL or its TV partners.
It’s a godsend for the overworked with nice and lax IT restrictions on their work computers :)
by grapejoos on Jul 17, 2009 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
we bought the online package with the online baseball package (discount!), and its been worth the money. I’m a local girl and follow the local teams, but Mr. Red uses it constantly to follow his hometown teams.
by RedBirdie on Jul 17, 2009 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Schultz has been re-signed for one year, financial terms undisclosed. Per Caps press release.
by Kolzilla on Jul 16, 2009 11:14 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
by Murshawursha on Jul 16, 2009 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like all the 1 year deals this year…
Gives GMGM the flexibility he needs next year!
though I wouldn’t mind seeing Schultz and Fehr signed longer.. some times thats just how the cookie crumbles!
And here’s hoping to longer next year!
Strange as it sounds, we do own TVs in Russia - Simeon Varlamov
by JustJeff on Jul 16, 2009 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for the love, JP.
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by turnituptoeleven on Jul 16, 2009 3:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Amen dude. Keep up the awesome work.
Because now I can justify browsing and commenting during the work day with the argument that I am promoting my business.
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Washington
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68 | 45 | 14 | 9 | 99 |
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Tampa Bay
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Atlanta
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67 | 28 | 29 | 10 | 66 |
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Florida
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67 | 28 | 29 | 10 | 66 |
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Carolina
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68 | 28 | 32 | 8 | 64 |
(updated 3.14.2010 at 9:01 AM EDT)
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