Tuesday Caps Clips: Gustafsson Heading to Hershey? Carlson Heading to D.C.?
by J.P. on Jul 14, 2009 7:00 AM EDT
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Your savory breakfast links:
- Today at Development Camp: 10 a.m.: Group B on ice; 12 p.m.: Group A on ice.
- Development Camp got off to a skating, err, running start yesterday:
- "I was rusty out there. It's a feeling-out process for most of us on the first day. And the first bag skate always hurts." [Braden Holtby, via @washcaps]
- "That was real competitive. Coach Boudreau is a really good coach. You better have your thinking cap on and make sure you listen." [Trevor Bruess, via @washcaps]
- John Carlson impressed the hell out of everyone and some camp "veterans" showed up in better shape than they did in the past. [Capitals Insider]
- Did we mention that John Carlson impressed? [OFB]
- Holtby is like Simeon Varlamov, but a better puck handler. We're pretty sure he's not going to be correcting anyone on the pronunciation on his name, though. [Washington Times]
- Additional Day 1 coverage from Vogs, Peerless, Capitals Kremlin and Puckhead's Thoughts (the latter two of whom provided great real-time coverage at @Capitalskremlin and @pckhdsthghts, respectively), as well as a terrific FanPost by ChrisAm.
- Friend o' the Rink sk84fun_dc has a list of all the invitees who are at camp but weren't on last week's list. [HFBoards via CK]
- Some great photos by Hans Bruesch (including the Holtby pic in this post) via @ahwahoo2006. [Flickr]
- And still more fab photos... [Caps In Pictures]
- Anton Gustafsson "says he wants to play in North America next year, and he doesn't care what his dad thinks about it." [@cmasisak22]
- Bruce Boudreau's disciples continue to be gainfully employed. [Peerless]
- If there's one way in which we wouldn't mind the Caps resembling the Redskins... it's in winning all those Championships. If there's a second way, this is probably it. [OFB]
- Tickets go on sale to the general public today for Capitals Convention 2009 - grab 'em while you can. [Capitals.com]
- Mike Green is by no means a lock for Team Canada at next year's Olympics, but will he really lose a spot to Dion Phaneuf? [Illegal Curve]
- Will we ever see another 100-point defenseman in the NHL? [FanHouse]
- Punchline fail, since corrected. [ESPN.com]
- There goes one solution to The Nylander Problem (hereafter "TNP") - Nolan Yonkman has re-upped with the Preds organization. [On the Forecheck, and if you don't get the reference, click here (jokes are always better when you have to explain them!)]
- Jimmy Jazz on the Top 10 Moments of the season. [TTTH]
- R.I.P., George Dobson. [Dump 'n Chase]
- Finally, on this date eleven years ago, the Caps signed Dmitri Mironov to a four-year/$11.5-million deal. Oy.
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Because now I can justify browsing and commenting during the work day with the argument that I am promoting my business.
by Sombrero Guy on Jul 14, 2009 7:32 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Scrolling down the homepage you did not.
"Yes, It is a 'Beautiful Game.' It's because we see something meaningful that we hope to someday, somehow, see in ourselves."
by Bald Pollack on Jul 14, 2009 7:40 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
haha my bad. I’m not too sharp first thing in the morning.
Because now I can justify browsing and commenting during the work day with the argument that I am promoting my business.
by Sombrero Guy on Jul 14, 2009 9:25 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that implies you’re sharp at other times….
by Scofield on Jul 14, 2009 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
George Dobson
I had the honor of working with George Dobson for a number of years and he will be most definitely missed.
For those who are interested, here are the services for George:
Wednesday July 15th:
There is a closed casket viewing at 9:00 AM at Holy Redeemer for all. This will be just prior to the Mass at 10:00.
Mass will be held at 10:00 AM at:
Holy Redeemer Catholic Church
4902 Berwyn Road
College Park, MD 20740
The Burial will take place immediately afterwords at:
Cedar Hill Cemetery
4111 Pennsylvania Avenue
Suitland MD 20746
Lunch will be offered following the burial back at Holy Redeemer.
The family has also asked that in lieu of flowers, donations be made to Special Olympics in George’s name.
by Kewibr on Jul 14, 2009 7:40 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I assume JP, CK, CI, Corey, and all the rest will be tweeting? Can whoever not on that tiny list perhaps comment the hell out of Japers for us, please :-)?
by DrinkingPartner on Jul 14, 2009 7:45 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If Mike Green played for Edmonton, he’d be considered a shoo-in.
The whole Phaneuf and the Canadian Olympic team is such a Canadian-NHL-team meme. He was brutal last year. And not just in his own end. He was probably the Flames’ fourth-best D, after Aucoin, Regehr, and Sarich.
by TylerG on Jul 14, 2009 7:58 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If Mike Green played for Edmonton, he’d be considered a shoo-in.
Sources?
by Fehr and Balanced on Jul 14, 2009 8:27 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just a little early morning ball-busting. You’re usually the first guy to call out people for unsupported speculation. I tend to agree that the Canadian media is a little myopic but that’s the kind of comment I see you challenge people on regularly.
by Fehr and Balanced on Jul 14, 2009 8:33 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If Phaneuf is considered ahead of him, that’s enough of a source right there.
by brs03 on Jul 14, 2009 8:38 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
“Sources?” is not challenging, it’s cryptic.
And I’m comfortable with my assertion. That Dion Phaneuf is under consideration for the 2010 Olympic team says more about his night-in, night-out visibility in Canada than it does about the quality of his play. If the 2010 Olympics were being played in 07-08, Phaneuf would be a much stronger candidate.
by TylerG on Jul 14, 2009 8:39 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
IIRC there are several Canadian media that have Green above Phaneuf on the 2010 depth chart.
by Fehr and Balanced on Jul 14, 2009 8:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If there are no injuries, Team Canada should have Phaneuf and Green on their backline. They’d be foolish not to have them both as they are probably (when healthy and at their best) the two best Canadian defensemen in the NHL.
Let's go Caps!
by MikeL-Caps on Jul 14, 2009 9:19 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I very much doubt that, and I’d take Bouwmeester, Keith, Regher, Weber, Pronger, and Niedermayer over Phaneuf in a heartbeat (and, depending on roster composition, at least some of them over Green).
by David M. Getz on Jul 14, 2009 9:27 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I’d take Boyle over DiPha in a second as well.
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by J.P. on Jul 14, 2009 9:38 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That’s a tough call if Phaneuf is playing well by his standards.
But with how he played last year I’d take Seabrook and Burns over him too.
by David M. Getz on Jul 14, 2009 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
After seeing him in 2 games in the Calder Cup finals in Hershey, I said Carlson was ready for the NHL. Not as good competition, but he looked excellent there. I bet he’ll see the last of Hershey by December or so.
by thehoagster07 on Jul 14, 2009 8:05 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I don’t know where TEB picked up this Carlson-to-the-NHL-at-19 meme, but I don’t buy it.
First, the Caps (still) have eight NHL D. No need to rush the ninth.
Next, in the Calder Cup game I saw last year, Bob Woods managed Carlson very carefully. Only put him out for faceoffs in the offensive zone, etc. Until Carlson can play in — and be trusted by his coach in — all kinds of situations, he’s not NHL-ready.
by TylerG on Jul 14, 2009 8:18 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
GMGM usually likes to take his time with the D but the Carlson hype isn’t coming from nowhere. He was one of the last cuts off the team as an 18 year old last season, and has only gotten better. In the interview on the Caps site GMGM said that in a few of the Calder Cup playoff games he watched Carlson was the best D on the ice for either team. GMGM also said that although he likes to be patient with the prospects the salary cap could force them to start bringing up younger players quicker (though I don’t know if that applies here since Carlson probably makes about as much as Schultz/Juice are going to make). BB said that there were 2-3 guys at D camp that could potentially contribute to the team this season; you have to figure Carlson is at the top of the list. Point is Carlson is being hyped from within the organization, not just by sources you don’t respect.
by Fehr and Balanced on Jul 14, 2009 8:31 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
When TEB asked BB about Carlson-in-the-NHL, BB threw cold water on the speculation pretty quickly. The video’s on the Caps’ website. (I’m not sure if this link will work, but it’s worth a shot.)
I disagree about Carlson being at the top of that list. I only saw one Calder Cup game in person last year, but I didn’t see a guy who was ready to compete for an NHL job at training camp. You don’t just go from an offensive-zone-only AHL D to the NHL overnight.
I also think that the fan base (in general) is a little over-excited about Carlson. He’ll be good, real good. But not yet. He’s still 19. If he was Canadian he’d be looking at another year in juniors.
by TylerG on Jul 14, 2009 8:43 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree that the fan base is a little over-excited for Carlson, I’ve never said that I expect him to be a serious contributor for the Caps this year and I fully expect him to follow the same path as Green, Alzner, and Schultz. That said, you are the only person that I have heard criticize his Calder Cup performance. GMGM and Mike Woods both think he played pretty damn well. Further, everything I’ve seen says that Carlson has been the best player at D camp, and it doesn’t even sound that close.
If you don’t think Carlson is at the top of the 2-3 players that could contribute this year I’d like to know who exactly you think is going to contribute. It won’t be one of the goalies and if it’s not Carlson it won’t be a D. Then you are basically looking at Perreault, Bouchard, and AnGus. I don’t think any of those guys are more likely to play significantly for the Caps than Carlson is.
BB didn’t shoot down the idea that Carlson could be with the Caps, he just took a more cautious (and realistic) stance, but he clearly acknowledged how good Carlson has been and didn’t say that there was no chance (or even that it was very unlikely) that he could play for the Caps.
by Fehr and Balanced on Jul 14, 2009 8:53 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I’m not criticizing his performance, I’m just noting that his icetime/use was managed very, very carefully. (And he was also a scratch for several finals games, no?)
I don’t think it’s so much about who is ready to contribute, but about where the Caps are likely to have need. The Caps have 8 NHL D and, uh, one RW. So yeah, the shrimp-Q wingers popping up in DC seem far more likely to me. (Osala too, though he isn’t in DC right now.)
by TylerG on Jul 14, 2009 9:02 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Caps have 8 D now but that won’t be the case when the season starts. Since Eminger left BB and GMGM have pretty consistently said they don’t want to carry 8 D. At least one of the current NHL D is going to be traded or allowed to sign and RFA offer sheet, IMO. If Carlson wins a spot and forces another one of the D out of town we won’t know that until training camp because GMGM won’t bank on a D camp performance to rely on Carlson as an NHL D yet.
I think he was only scratched for one of the finals games, but maybe it was two. I think he was scratched more during the Baby Pens series and the ECF. I didn’t watch any of the games so I can’t really comment on his ice time or how he was managed; but when both Woods and GMGM have said that he was the best D on the ice for either team in several games I think that speaks pretty well to his performance. But yeah, if he is being scratched in the AHL, even if it was just to get him some more teaching time in the press box, I don’t think it’s likely that he makes the jump to the NHL.
by Fehr and Balanced on Jul 14, 2009 9:08 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tim Leone and John Walton are on record as telling the Bears fans not to expect to see Carlson for too long next year. They think he’s ready to go right now. When you look at:
- He came out of nowhere in training camp last year to be one of the last cuts for the Caps
- Carlson won almost every postseason award for the London Knights that he could have
- Every Hershey hockey professional has raved about his performance, and says he’s NHL-ready (Woods, Walton, Leone)
Yeah, I think he could make an NHL team right now. But you have to balance that against:
- Caps have 8 defensemen ahead of him in development (Green, Poti, Pothier, Schultz, Alzner, Morrisonn, Jurcina, Erskine)
- To put Carlson on the team, they’d probably have to lose one or two of those players permanently. They can keep everybody if they keep Carlson in Hershey
- Playing him all year will advance his free agent clock (to me, the most important factor)
- Recently, the Caps have given their defense prospects a fair amount of time in the minors (Alzner, Green). The last time they didn’t (Eminger) the results were not good
On balance, it’s probable that Carlson does not start the year with the Caps. It probably won’t hurt his development to play more time in Hershey, though I don’t think he needs it. But if someone was willing to give McPhee good value for a defenseman or two, I don’t doubt that he would take that offer and open up roster space for Carlson. Boudreau’s quote I interpreted as “I’m not giving anyone a job in July.” Pretty much everyone else is saying the kid is ready to go.
by Gould Old Days on Jul 14, 2009 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m sure he’s getting it from Boudreau’s tone when discussing him.
by brs03 on Jul 14, 2009 8:39 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also, two uses of meme in the same comments section? Just thought it funny to point out.
by brs03 on Jul 14, 2009 8:40 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL. Yes, Dion Phaneuf should beat me down. He’d have to get WAY out of position to do that, but getting caught of out position is one of the strengths of his game…
by TylerG on Jul 14, 2009 8:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Btw, you guys are doing an awesome job of using this Clips post to discuss whatever the hell tickles your pickle at the moment. Kudos.
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by J.P. on Jul 14, 2009 8:52 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Just wait until you put up a focused, substantive post for us to derail…
by Fehr and Balanced on Jul 14, 2009 8:54 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
…or an Afinogenov rumor…
"Yes, It is a 'Beautiful Game.' It's because we see something meaningful that we hope to someday, somehow, see in ourselves."
by Bald Pollack on Jul 14, 2009 8:57 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m withholding substance as punishment.
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by J.P. on Jul 14, 2009 9:14 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought that was just off-season standards, JP.
"It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees." - Delores Ibarruri
by gotsparkly on Jul 14, 2009 9:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It is past noon. Maybe we are being punished!
by Scott in Shaw on Jul 14, 2009 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
OK, speculation aside, here is what the Caps have…
The NHLers under contract:
Mike Green (through 2011-2012)
Tom Poti (2010-2011)
Brian Pothier (2009-2010)
John Erskine (2010-2011)
Karl Alzner is signed through 2010-2011, but is not a lock to make the team out of camp this year. You’d have to think that his chances of doing so are better than even. That’s five spots filled.
There are three RFAs — Shaone Morrison, Milan Jurcina, and Jeff Schultz — who, coincidentally, are penciled in for the last three spots (assuming the Caps carry eight defensemen, although seven seems more likely). Of that group, Milan Jurcina is the only one going to arbitration. It’s entirely possible that all three will be retained, though I think it unlikely (call it a hunch). But even if only two are retained, the Caps would likely have to carry eight defensemen for Carlson to have a slot. If Carlson has a slot with only seven defensemen carried, that can be the product of several things, only one of them good. Carlson could so impress the Caps that he has to be carried. That’s the good part. The others are injury (forcing his taking a roster spot) or Alzner falling on his face (anybody think that’s a good thing?). I’m not counting on any trade that includes any defenseman at this time of the year.
And, another reason for the Caps to carry seven and keep Carlson in Hershey… Carlson gets to play a lot of minutes, whereas he’d get third pair minutes on those nights he dressed. And, it leaves open the possibility of the Caps carrying that eighth defenseman late in the year as a product of trade (for you folks who go to bed nights dreaming of a veteran defenseman).
I saw Carlson in several playoff games in Hershey last spring, and two things impressed me. One, he had talent; he will be good (but note the future tense used there). Second, he was competitive at the AHL level, not dominant. The NHL is a big step up. He could get a call up this year (although if he does, it’s likely to be the result of a reprise of last year… injury/illness taking a bite out of the team), but I would think he gets 65-70 games in Hershey, and he likely takes Pothier’s spot on the roster in 2010-2011..
If you've read this far...seek help.
by ThePeerless on Jul 14, 2009 8:54 AM EDT reply actions 2 recs
I’d be surprised if both Mo and Juice are on the roster on opening day. JP too, I think, right?
Yeah, you want your teenagers to get big minutes, to get used to big responsibility…
by TylerG on Jul 14, 2009 9:04 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes – I’d be shocked if I’m on the opening day roster.
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by J.P. on Jul 14, 2009 9:13 AM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
seemed to work for Mike Green, who got 56 regular season and 21 playoff games in Hershey.
If you've read this far...seek help.
by ThePeerless on Jul 14, 2009 9:17 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
First, I don’t think anyone on this board has Schultz penciled in as a bottom 3 D. We’ve all argued way too much for that. Second, I think Alzner has a spot only to lose. He’s expected to come in and have a stepping stone, learning year, not necessarily be a dominant player.
But I do agree with you in that I think Carlson will see limited time, perhaps even less than Alzner saw last year (but maybe more, if Alzner screws a pooch or two).
Off immediate topic, but how does Orlov look? He’s supposed to be the steal of the first two rounds, and I can only giggle like a schoolgirl about him ramming people’s heads into posts in his first D-camp (obviously, I’m not excited that it was Lil Gus he stuffed, but whatever). Could he fast-track?
by DrinkingPartner on Jul 14, 2009 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He’s received pretty good reviews so far, from what I’ve read.
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by J.P. on Jul 14, 2009 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think when he said that Mo, Juice, and Schultz were penciled in for the last three spots, he meant roster spot-wise, not depth chart-wise.
by David M. Getz on Jul 14, 2009 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Eminger
Everyone agrees that they rushed Eminger and basically put his career into a tailspin. So why are so many willing to do the same thing to Carlson? JC is good, could ultimately be very good, but we’re not talking Scott Stevens here. Let him go back to Hershey and, unless there’s a real emergency with the Caps or he just blows everybody away, stay there for the entire season and come back next year ready to be a true NHL defenseman. This is a man’s league and the number of 19-year old defenseman who make the grade can be counted on two hands. Maybe the Caps will slide him in for a game or two during the season, but Hershey is where he should be next season.
by b.orr4 on Jul 14, 2009 9:15 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Eminger was hurt almost equally by going through different coaches and a crappy minor league coach in Portland.
Boudreau/French >>>>>> Cassidy/Hanlon/Army.
Not that it still isn’t a valuable cautionary tale about getting ahead of ourselves and rushing guys, but at the same time the conditions are different so there’s definitely hope either way.
by brs03 on Jul 14, 2009 9:22 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The way they handled Eminger is indeed one of the real mysteries.
But just for fun: Would you believe that Steve Eminger played more AHL games than Jeff Schultz? Eminger played 103 regular-season AHL games plus seven playoff games. Schultz played 45 and 26.
by TylerG on Jul 14, 2009 9:23 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nice stat.
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by J.P. on Jul 14, 2009 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Eminger played 103 regular-season AHL games plus seven playoff games.
Part of the reason for the AHL game total is the lockout year. Eminger’s career was just horribly mishandled. He played 17 games with the Caps as an 18-year old where he got little ice time then was sent back to his junior team where he only played 23 games. So basically he lost a year of development. Then the next year, he played 41 games on a horrible Caps team. In retrospect, he should have spent the entire year in juniors when he was 18 as Alzner did and then jumped to the AHL for a full season. Then he would have had another full season in the AHL because of the lockout. Who knows what kinds of defenseman he might have ended up being had he been allowed to develop at a normal pace.
by b.orr4 on Jul 14, 2009 9:45 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t agree that Emmy’s career was horribly mishandled. His issues are not physical. I don’t think I am going to far out on a limb to point out that you don’t bounce around like a ping pong ball because you’re a solid team guy who shows up to work every day. The guy has bottom pair NHL talent; his head is elsewhere, apparently.
from the house that Red Jesus built
by bigonetimer on Jul 14, 2009 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Unless there are some issues I’m not aware of, I’m not sure that’s the case. I don’t think it’s fair to conclude to problem is attitude or work ethic just because it doesn’t obviously appear to be something else.
by David M. Getz on Jul 14, 2009 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So what’s your take, then?
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by bigonetimer on Jul 14, 2009 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He bounced around largely because of money. Tampa couldn’t afford him so they sent him to FLA for scraps. FLA was afraid of his arbitration case so they didn’t qualify him, even though they may still like to re-sign him.
by brs03 on Jul 14, 2009 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree that he was mismanaged and it hurt his development and I still think he’s good enough to be a top six defenseman in the NHL, and possibly even a second pairing guy.
by David M. Getz on Jul 14, 2009 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can you really justify this statement for a guy who is -47 for his career and averages nearly 1 PM per game? I can’t.
from the house that Red Jesus built
by bigonetimer on Jul 14, 2009 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Considering the teams he was on, I don’t put a lot of stock in +/-. Not to say the two are comparable, but, as an example, through his first 225 NHL games Jay Bouwmeester was a -43. Through his first 224 NHL games Eminger was a -44.
by b.orr4 on Jul 14, 2009 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly. Plus-minus only has a very limited application; at best you can use the extremes to make sweeping judgments, i.e. that Nicklas Backstrom at +16 had a better year defensively than Viktor Kozlog at -9. But then you look at something like Milan Jurcina at +1 versus Boyd Gordon at -5 and, well, you start to see the problem with the stat.
by David M. Getz on Jul 14, 2009 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Plus-minus isn’t a very good statistic, especially if you’re applying it across different teams and different years.
Eminger’s age, the record of his (primary) team, and their goal differential for each season he played more than 20 games:
20 / 23-46-10-3 / -67
22 / 29-41-12 / -69
23 / 28-40-14 / -51
25 / 24-40-18 / -69
He was/is a young defenseman playing for bad teams. I think that goes an awful long was towards explaining his plus-minus. Heck, faulting him for being a -11 in 2003 or a -14 in 2005 is like faulting for being a -17 this season.
Over the last two seasons he’s averaged 52 PIMs per 82 games, which is fine.
by David M. Getz on Jul 14, 2009 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
gentlemen, he has been a minus player for his entire career. I’m not going to out stat you, or even try—and I understand the shallow depth +/- plumbs, thanks—-but minus defensemen don’t make a ton of hay in the NHL particularly in the top two pairs.
And by the way, FLA’s defense looks pretty decent for losing its franchise player on the backline. Em’s no shoo-in there anyway.
from the house that Red Jesus built
by bigonetimer on Jul 14, 2009 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They only have 5 NHLers at the moment (at least by my count), so unless Ellerby or Kulikov or some other prospect are already 100% to make they jump they’ll need the depth.
by brs03 on Jul 14, 2009 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
my guess is their depth will be cheaper than Emmy’s 1.2M.
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by bigonetimer on Jul 14, 2009 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Which is why they didn’t qualify him. No reason they can’t bring him back for under 1 mil or whatever.
by brs03 on Jul 14, 2009 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that is true. My guess is he signs elsewhere. Like I said, the physical gifts are fine, and presumably a righthanded shooting puckmover, relatively young and cheap, should be able to stick somewhere.
from the house that Red Jesus built
by bigonetimer on Jul 14, 2009 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He may have a desire to stay with Hartsburg, but that’s just a hunch. Then again, he could have signed by now if he really wanted, he’s probably doing his best to find better offers before settling.
by brs03 on Jul 14, 2009 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
gentlemen, he has been a minus player for his entire career.
Right, but as a young defensemen on awful teams. Unfortunately the only year he played a decent number of games that the stat is available for is 08-09 but this past season his rating relative to his teammates (a stat measured by behindthenet) was +0.37, better than 16 of 22 Capitals who played 30 games or more.
by David M. Getz on Jul 14, 2009 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ok, good point. I still think it’s a stretch to say he’s top two pairs guy on many NHL teams.
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by bigonetimer on Jul 14, 2009 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Someone mentioned this thread over at HFBs so a simple request, since you have the link in your list, please change the link to the updated FA invitee list compiled later in the day, thanks. And thanks to those that were in attendance yesterday for capturing and posting the names so I was able to compile the list.
http://hfboards.com/showpost.php?p=20411863&postcount=147
:)
by sk84fun_dc on Jul 14, 2009 9:17 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Done, and mucho gracias!
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by J.P. on Jul 14, 2009 9:37 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
muchomuchas gracias
fixed that for ya (adj/noun agreement via gender and number) : ]
oh, it’s the offseason alright!
by war_capitals on Jul 14, 2009 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
you should be brushing up on French in preparation for that Montreal trip! I’m trying to figure out how to say “Your goalie is a sieve!” and “Don’t trip over the blue line!” and “Smurf power!”
by RedBirdie on Jul 14, 2009 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Your goalie is a sieve!—- Votre gardien est une passoire!
Dont trip over the blue line!—- Ne pas tomber sur la ligne bleue!
Smurf Power!—- Schtroumpf Power!
And one of my own…..—-Préparez-vous à “l’objectif”, la troisième partie
by amkcaps on Jul 14, 2009 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Thank you! These things were not covered in “French for International Affairs”
by RedBirdie on Jul 14, 2009 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But they definitely were covered in “A Guide to using Google Translator” :)
by amkcaps on Jul 14, 2009 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
The French have a word for “smurf”? It truly is a global economy these days…
by war_capitals on Jul 14, 2009 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
When I did Smurf Power I expected the english Smurf and then a French word for power. I was pretty surprised with the opposite
by amkcaps on Jul 14, 2009 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The smurfs are Belgian, originally. They were Schtroumpfs before they were Smurfs.
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by boutros23 on Jul 14, 2009 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
knowledge! sweet. this is why i come here.
by Natty Bumppo on Jul 14, 2009 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow. Good stuff. I would never have known that if I didnt read that here
by amkcaps on Jul 14, 2009 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know a lot of worthless trivia.
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by boutros23 on Jul 14, 2009 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’ll see your Spanish and raise you Hebrew…
Smurfs in Hebrew is דרדסים…pronounced “dardasim”
by Yoshietree on Jul 14, 2009 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
according to snapshpts (http://blog.mlive.com/snapshots/2009/07/marian_hossa_on_the_red_wings.html) Caps will be playing in Detroit on October 10.
by RedBirdie on Jul 14, 2009 1:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
October 10 sounds like opening night to me….
by amkcaps on Jul 14, 2009 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Of course I didnt read the link first…. It could still be our opening night though. Not sure
by amkcaps on Jul 14, 2009 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bubba over at Canes Country seems to have firmer dates for the Canes, if that’s to be used as reference.
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by Bald Pollack on Jul 14, 2009 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wings play CHI for the Detroit home opener on Oct 8.
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by boutros23 on Jul 14, 2009 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have a hunch the Caps are going to sign Igor Larionov...
…seeing as he’s Russian and all.
But I’m waiting for the substantive, fact-based, stats-driven post to open up the discussion.
by fat_daddyo on Jul 14, 2009 2:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i heard somewhere the caps were interested in alexei yashin.
by Natty Bumppo on Jul 14, 2009 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No way. They’re totally going to sign Dmitri Mironov again. He can’t have gotten worse in the last 11 years.
by grapejoos on Jul 14, 2009 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
no fair playing the “off topic” game with someone discussed in the post itself!
by Natty Bumppo on Jul 14, 2009 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I heard this guy is coming over from the KHL… short, but strong on his skates…
If you've read this far...seek help.
by ThePeerless on Jul 14, 2009 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
More Caps Convention news, and I know you all are just giddy with anticipation:
Hey Club Scarlet Members…
Are you looking for the best Capitals event to hit the D.C area? If so, we have exactly what you are looking for…The Capitals Convention! This event will be the most immersive Capitals and hockey experience ever. Don’t delay, tickets are limited!
This will be the first opportunity to purchase official Club Scarlet merchandise!
by RedBirdie on Jul 14, 2009 2:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Scarlet Members? Eww…
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by J.P. on Jul 14, 2009 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I just got that, too. I tried to respond telling them what a joke the website is, but got an “out of office” bounce back. I wonder if a live person will actually ever read it.
Oooh, they did. I got a response!
Thanks for your email…we are in the process of updating it now. I am working with an outside company to have more interactive features as well as more pictures. We will also be having Scarlet events as we move closer to the season.
Wonder if it will be anything that’s worth it. For instance, pictures? I’m not looking for the glamour shots. Sheesh!
JP, I see that comment below. If they did it right, it wouldn’t be eww. For now, though, I agree with you.
by gfcaps fan on Jul 14, 2009 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bah, JP comment above now. Posting fail.
by gfcaps fan on Jul 14, 2009 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
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