Lines Fun, Starring Mike Knuble
by Gould Old Days on Jul 1, 2009 3:44 PM EDT
73 comments
So it's our Deity-granted right as hockey fans to speculate wildly about lines whenever our team signs a new forward. And the nice thing about being fans of a Boudreau-coached team is that almost all of these lines will actually be used at some point! So what are your ideal lines? I'll get it started:
Power Play:
Semin-Backstrom-Knuble
Ovechkin-Green
Even Strength
Ovechkin-Backstrom-Knuble
Semin-Laich-Fehr
Fleishmann-Steckel-Bourque
Bradley-Gordon-Clark
If this FanPost is written by someone other than one of the blog's authors, the opinions expressed in it do not necessarily reflect those of this blog or SB Nation.
0 recs |
73 comments
Email
Print
Comments
For some reason I really dont like that Lash-Steckel-Bourque line. I dont know, I feel like thoy wouldnt gel, and might be defensively liable. Please prove me wrong
by amkcaps on Jul 1, 2009 3:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I don’t see how that line would be a defensive liability. Steckel is obviously great in his own end. Laich is a competent defensive player. Borque can skate and has hockey sense so I imagine he’s good enough to cover a wing’s D responsibilities. I’ve also never heard that Borque was bad in his own end and he PK’d for Hershey.
by Fehr and Balanced on Jul 1, 2009 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh… well Flash is a great PKer right?
by Fehr and Balanced on Jul 1, 2009 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
hahahahhahahahaha… another almost falling off my chair laughing moment. thanks :)
by kellobellow on Jul 2, 2009 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
There’s too much I’d like to see to highlight here. While Knuble seems to be a logical fit on the top line, I really think giving Clarke a chance at that slot would be valuable. I’d also not mind giving a hard working-does everything he can to help the team guy like Bradley on the top line with Ovie.
Knuble tosses a wrench into the “Where do you play Fehr and Hershey guys” thing for next year. I doubt we’ll get our 2nd line center. We’re more likely looking at Aucoin or Laich.
by FFSEnough on Jul 1, 2009 4:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
As I said in another thread, if I’m Keith Aucoin I’m moving into the local gym.
"It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees." - Delores Ibarruri
by gotsparkly on Jul 1, 2009 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Matt Bradley on the top line. Seriously?
Russian Machine Never Breaks
by macvechkin on Jul 1, 2009 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Seeing as Fehr is hurt for a bit…
Ovechkin-Backstrom-Clark
Semin-Nyls-Knuble
Laich-Steckel-Flash
Bradley-Gordon-Bourque/Osala
For the time being…due to injury…finding a place for Fehr is a non-issue.
by Yoshietree on Jul 1, 2009 4:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I’d rather see:
Ovechkin-Backstrom-Knuble
Semin-Nyls(ugh)-Laich
Flash-Steckel-Clark
Bradley-Gordon-Borque/Osala
by SethB on Jul 1, 2009 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
For some reason I remember reading somewhere that Laich doesn’t play on the right side. I could be wrong about that. Also, I’d like to see Clark atleast have the shot at the 1st line…hopefully reclaim some of his glory from a few years back.
by Yoshietree on Jul 1, 2009 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The only issue I have with this is balance of roles. Clark’s not really a net-crasher, is he? I’d like to see this:
Ovechkin – Backstrom – Knuble
Laich – Nylander – Semin
Bourque – Steckel – Fehr or Flash
Clark – Gordon – Bradley
This gives you a playmaker, a finisher, and a net-crasher on each of the top two lines. The third line is mix of scoring and checking – does a little of both. The final line is a checking line.
I’d also be interested in the idea of benching Flash, moving Clark up to 3RW, and replacing him with Jay Beagle.
"It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees." - Delores Ibarruri
by gotsparkly on Jul 1, 2009 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
My problem with a hybrid 3rd line is that when you have a 3rd line that does some checking and some scoring, it usually does neither.
by Fehr and Balanced on Jul 1, 2009 6:19 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
yeah, i’d rather see bourque/steckel/bradley… but i don’t see fehr or flash fitting in on a 4th line either.
by kellobellow on Jul 1, 2009 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
when you have a 3rd line that does some checking and some scoring, it usually does neithe
as JP would say….bingo.
Russian Machine Never Breaks
by macvechkin on Jul 1, 2009 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Given that Knuble was told he’d be playing with Backstrom and Ovechkin, I’d be shocked if he doesn’t start the season there.
by David M. Getz on Jul 1, 2009 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And what was Nyls told when we courted him? Paper is signed. Nothing he can do about it now. (But I still agree that he starts on the top line.)
by Fehr and Balanced on Jul 1, 2009 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
There’s nothing Knuble can do, but that’s not the kind of reputation you want to have around the league.
by David M. Getz on Jul 1, 2009 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know, I was only half serious but it didn’t come through. I want Knuble on the line with AO and Backstrom because, as he said, he is a complimentary player and that is what that line needs. Semin needs to play with a C that can create and play with the puck more than Knuble can.
by Fehr and Balanced on Jul 1, 2009 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Considering how BB rotates his lines, I wouldn’t be shocked if both Knuble, Clark, and Fehr each got their oportunity to play with Ove, and Backs… I really can’t see a situation where we loose in the long run, though I think Knuble is much much more likely to crash the net and help get those dirty dirty goals that porn stars and hockey fans a like thrive on!
Ove – Backs – Knuble
Laich – Nyls – Semin
Flash – Steckle Clark
Bourque – Gordo – Brads
though I have no doubt that most of the lines will be shaken up a time or two at least durring the season..
Strange as it sounds, we do own TVs in Russia - Simeon Varlamov
by JustJeff on Jul 1, 2009 6:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
yeah, that’s the thing – bruce really loves to shake things up, so i’m sure they’ll all get a chance.
by kellobellow on Jul 1, 2009 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is the best point. My gut opinion is to not put a 37 year old on the top line.
My idea of these lines is that you get four DISTINCTIVELY DIFFERENT lines, each with a legit chance to score. Ovechkin – Backstrom – Semin is your highlight line. Laich – Nyls – Knuble has a real chance at redeeming Nyls — Laich digs puck out of corner, passes to Nyls, Nyls feeds a pass to Knuble, goal. I’d bank on this at least a few times this season even if it’s on a bad line change. Flash – Steckel – Clark is your standard “Bit of everything” line. And Fehr(Osala) – Gordon – Bourque (Bradley) is your grind line with a bit of punch.
Ovechkin – Backstrom – Semin
Laich – Circles – Knuble
Flash – Steckel – Clark
Fehr – Gordon – Bourque.
Green – Poti
Alzner – Erskine
Carlson – Pothier
Scratches (But not often) – Osala, Jurcina, Bradley. Bradley and Osala could play when the team we were up against was a bigger grinding team in place of Bourque or Fehr, and I’d want Jurcina ready at a moments notice to go for Carlson or Pothier, and to keep them both fresh.
I'm so sick and tired of the refs explaining the calls like this is the NFL.
by Whiter Mage on Jul 1, 2009 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Rec’d. I love the idea that Knuble could get Nylander playing well. That would be amazing. I hope it works out that way.
Why not get even more radical?
Ovechkin – Nylander – Knuble
Flash- Backstrom – Semin
Laich – Steckel – Bourque
Bradley – Gordon – Clark
We all know Backstrom and Semin play very well together. If Nylander develops some chemistry with Ovechkin and Knuble, all of a sudden that’s a pretty strong offense. There’s no true top line there — Backstrom with Semin could be just as dangerous as Ovechkin’s line.
by Gould Old Days on Jul 1, 2009 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i dont see ovi and nyls playing. backs and ovi are long term line mates and i dont think its very noticable, but backstrom helps ovi very much. if you watch ovi without backs, he doesnt do as well
by hockeyman33 on Jul 1, 2009 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
One more thing I like about the WM lines — the Caps really lacked a line with, for lack of any better way to put it, a “North American” approach to scoring last year. WM’s lines give you two very different looks that could each be effective against different teams.
by Gould Old Days on Jul 1, 2009 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Knuble is not the answer to Nyls. The guys Nyls has clicked with are guys who could score from anywhere given a small opening. Knuble scores right on top of the crease, he’s not going to get himself open at the dot and make someone pay. It’s a great fan dream but it’s not realistic. Nyls’ best shot at being productive is with Semin. Semin is the most Jagr-like player we have. He can control the puck and he can score from everywhere. He just needs his head screwed on better, which I’m not sure is fixable.
by Fehr and Balanced on Jul 1, 2009 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’d have to think Osala’s better served playing a top six role in Hershey than sitting in the press box in DC.
by David M. Getz on Jul 1, 2009 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’d have to think the Caps are better served with him either in the press box or as a call up for a guy to get a break. Who else do you want as your fill in? I don’t know many guys, but better Osala than Giroux or Pinizotto.
I'm so sick and tired of the refs explaining the calls like this is the NFL.
by Whiter Mage on Jul 1, 2009 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’d take Beagle. I really liked what I saw out of Osala in the AHL finals, and didn’t see Beagle or A. Gordon too often. Another factor keeping me from picking A. Gordon is personal bias from having two Gordon’s on one line.
Beagle I like, but I don’t think Boudreau likes enough to be sold on him getting more than 5-8 minutes. I’m not saying Osala would get those kinds of minutes, but if he’s getting 30+ games at an NHL level, I kind of want him to get the shot, and spend the rest of the time in the AHL. Maybe have him be our injury call up. /shrug.
I'm so sick and tired of the refs explaining the calls like this is the NFL.
by Whiter Mage on Jul 1, 2009 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m with DMG. I want Osala working on his game in Hershey. He got his feet wet in North American pro hockey last year, this year I want that line to work on being a line that Hershey can rely on for scoring and for each individual to work on rounding out their game. Beagle will get more minutes than the last time we saw him because BB will be more familiar with his game by now and it won’t be playoff hockey so the stakes are lower. We can take any of the Hershey guys that are energy players and they can sit in the press box, high end prospects need to play to develop.
by Fehr and Balanced on Jul 1, 2009 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That’s fine, I just don’t want to waste a spot on a guy who’s only going to get 8 minutes.
I'm so sick and tired of the refs explaining the calls like this is the NFL.
by Whiter Mage on Jul 1, 2009 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Someone’s only going to get 8 minutes, the question is who?
by Fehr and Balanced on Jul 1, 2009 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No. Fehr – Gordon – Bradley (and Bourque on his nights) would have to get 10 minutes a night. This team will be so much better if Ovechkin can have more of the game to rest, and we have guys who can contribute when he’s not on the ice.
I'm so sick and tired of the refs explaining the calls like this is the NFL.
by Whiter Mage on Jul 1, 2009 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Every team in the league has guys that play fewer than 10 minutes a night. Considering how top heavy the Caps talent is I’d expect it to be the same again this year.
by Fehr and Balanced on Jul 1, 2009 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love Laing. It’s really hard for me to say this though, but the guy’s a tweener. If the Caps are going to be long term successful, I don’t think this guy cracks the line-up. He’s all heart, and little else at the NHL level. My idea in those lines was that all four have a little taste of offensive punch, and Laing doesn’t really contribute to that ideal.
I'm so sick and tired of the refs explaining the calls like this is the NFL.
by Whiter Mage on Jul 1, 2009 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And Osala hasn’t done a thing at the NHL level yet. As a depth forward Laing is the better option, because it won’t matter for development and you don’t have to worry about consistency.
With Laing you know what you get. With Osala you really don’t.
by brs03 on Jul 1, 2009 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Between Laing and A. Gordon or Beagle, I’d take Beagle in a heartbeat.
I'm so sick and tired of the refs explaining the calls like this is the NFL.
by Whiter Mage on Jul 1, 2009 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I probably would as well, at least as long as he had a good camp, because he’ll drop the gloves.
But Laing is a known quantity and sets an excellent example. If the minutes aren’t high either way that may be enough to overcome his deficiencies, especially if he’s not getting a regular sweater. And that way you don’t screw up Osala’s development.
by brs03 on Jul 1, 2009 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Regardless, that we’re only spatting about a scratch, I don’t feel too bad.
I'm so sick and tired of the refs explaining the calls like this is the NFL.
by Whiter Mage on Jul 2, 2009 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
O.K., I'll bite
Ovie – Backstrom – Borque
Semin – Circles – Knuble
Laich – Steckel – Clark
Bradley – Gordon – Fehr/Flash
Clark, Fehr and Flash could flipflop.
Your favorite meme is dead
by Edanger6 on Jul 1, 2009 6:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Forgot to add
No use putting Borque on a grind line. Let him play with skilled players and see if we got a poor mans St. Louis
Your favorite meme is dead
by Edanger6 on Jul 1, 2009 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Bourque would do fine on any line. That guy has one hell of a motor. I think he could actually be a pretty effective pest in the NHL.
by Gould Old Days on Jul 1, 2009 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
totally agreed – after attending a couple hershey games, he’s quickly become one of my favorite players to watch. he’s all over the place, but in a good way. could definitely add a spark to any line.
by kellobellow on Jul 2, 2009 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nyls is not going to be 2nd line Center
by RedskinFan4Life on Jul 1, 2009 8:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Sounds like Laich is. So, who sits on Laich’s left wing? Knowing BB, it’s probably Flash, sigh.
"It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees." - Delores Ibarruri
by gotsparkly on Jul 1, 2009 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But I think McPhee is a liar. More to the point, he says what is best to be said, whether that’s true or not. And right now, it’s best for everyone involved if he says Brooks is our 2C.
Nylander might react in one of two ways. He can get mad, decide he wants to prove himself, and hit the gym and video room all summer with the goal of coming back and claiming his job back. Or he might decide to go elsewhere, to the KHL or waive his NMC and engineer a trade to an NHL team that wants him. Either one would be good.
Anyway, this isn’t McPhee’s decision to make. Boudreau decides who plays where. This is posturing, and it’s the perfect way to play the situation.
by Gould Old Days on Jul 1, 2009 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
(He could of course show up in the fall in basic playing shape, skate circles all through camp, and win a spot in the stands as a healthy scratch for every game. But that doesn’t change the fact that McPhee is playing this the right way)
by Gould Old Days on Jul 1, 2009 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
First off, GMGM never tells the truth. Remember the time we were supposed to stand pat at the deadline, and all of a sudden got Fedorov, Cooke, and Huet? heh.
Second, I’m terrified if Laich has to be our second line center. I’d rather him far more on Left Wing with a 50 point Nylander in the middle (Which I think can be reasonably expected with the lines I suggested).
I don’t know. Bash all you want for that, but I know I disagree.
I'm so sick and tired of the refs explaining the calls like this is the NFL.
by Whiter Mage on Jul 1, 2009 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, as much as i love laich (and believe me, i do), he’s a much better left wing than a center. who knows, though – i guess we’ll have to wait and see how things shake out.
by kellobellow on Jul 2, 2009 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Unless something changes personnel-wise, I’d expect this:
Ovechkin-Backstrom-Knuble
Fleischmann-Laich-Semin
Bourque-Steckel-Clark
Beagle/A. Gordon-B. Gordon-Bradley
to start the season.
by David M. Getz on Jul 1, 2009 9:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Scratches are Nylander and Fehr? A. Gordon returns to Hershey when Fehr rejoins the lineup? I like this, but I’m not sure how the bottom line works and where Fehr fits when he returns.
I’m wondering how the defense shakes out now, and I don’t think we’ll know until after arbitration.
"It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees." - Delores Ibarruri
by gotsparkly on Jul 1, 2009 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The team seems ready to use Laich as the second line center, so I think Nyls is scratched because I don’t see him on the bottom three. Left Fehr out since he’s going to be hurt Opening Night. I would imagine where he fits in will depends on who’s healthy and how they’re performing.
note: this is what I think will happen, not necessarily what I’d open camp with.
by David M. Getz on Jul 2, 2009 8:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
nyls will be given a shot early in the season. i personally don’t like him, but he did play with the 3rd line most of last year. maybe some more time with semin and laich will get him some chemistry. he also needs to speed and bulk up.
i dont think nyls is the answer, but it would be great if he is. this is if we can’t move him
by hockeyman33 on Jul 2, 2009 8:31 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Where Nyls plays (if he plays) is entirely up to him. If he performs in camp and the preseason he’ll be the 2nd line center. If he doesn’t, he’ll be sitting next to Tarik and Corey.
by Yoshietree on Jul 2, 2009 8:56 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think this about nails it.
"It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees." - Delores Ibarruri
by gotsparkly on Jul 2, 2009 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
My turn
Forward Line 1: Ovechkin-Backstrom-Knuble
A great blend of skill, speed, grit, toughness, and someone to keep opposing defenesmen busy while Ovie and Nick work their magic.
Forward Line 2: Semin-Nylander-Laich
For now, Nylander is the second line center. If he really heals up from the shoulder, he might get back some of his playmaking ability.
Forward Line 3: Steckel-Gordon-Bradley
Their job is to check the opponents top line by forechecking them into submission in their own end.
Forward Line 4: Bourque-Clark-Fleischmann (or Osala)
This unit would be adjusted (along with the other lines) depending on the opponent. When playing a smaller, fast team (like Montreal), Bourque could move up to line 2, shifting Laich to center and dropping Nylander here. Against a more rough and tumble team, Osala might move up to line 2, again, shifting Laich to center.
Defense Pair 1: Poti-Alzner
Their job is to eat up as many 5-on-5 minutes as they can and ideally get 22-24 minutes each. Alzner is young, but he can certainly handle the workload, and Poti can teach him a lot by pairing with him.
Defense Pair 2: Green-Schultz
Green is an All-star, no doubt. He’s on pair two because, as a coach, I want him to get about 20 minutes per game, and as much of that on the power play as possible. Ditto for Schultz, but I want him to get his time in on the PK.
Defense Pair 3: Erskine-Pothier
Pothier should still only get 15-18 minutes per night, although if the Caps are behind in a game, he moves up to pair with Green to add some life to the offense.
Jurcina will be able to get into games when there are injuries (with Poti and Pothier, it’s going to happen) or when the opponent isn’t as tough, where he can replace Erskine.
I notice that Morrisonn isn’t mentioned a lot here as well. Hopefully the Caps and he can find some kind of common ground, which would facilitate the moving of Jurcina. Carlson will definitely get time as well… you know that other injuries may happen.
Let's go Caps!
by MikeL-Caps on Jul 2, 2009 10:22 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Psst…your fourth line doesn’t have a center.
by David M. Getz on Jul 2, 2009 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What about Anthony Stewart
I would like to see them add Anthony Stewart as the extra forward. You can get him cheap, he is still young, is a banger and could learn from Knuble and Laich.
Then my lines would be,
Ovechkin – Backstrom – Knuble
Flash – Laich – Semin
Bourque – Steckel – Fehr (I personally prefer Fehr on #2 over Flash but Semin will be on RW to allow OV those longer shifts)
Bradley – Gordon – Clark
Stewart and probably Aucoin as extras
If Stewart does not pan out you send him down to Hershey, with lots of options down there.
by CapsFanSince1979 on Jul 2, 2009 10:49 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Forget about Aucoin…Nylander would be the other extra.
by CapsFanSince1979 on Jul 2, 2009 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He was a past first round pick and played on the Canadian U20 team. I have not followed him in the AHL/NHL since, but I assume he has not developed as he was not tendered. He was always a banger in the corners and front of the net with very good size. We could use some more size down on the 4th/extra so I thought he would be a good fit.
by CapsFanSince1979 on Jul 2, 2009 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Still not finding him anywhere…can you provide any more info? Not trying to start a flame war, just never heard of the guy.
http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/draft/teams/dr000049.html
^^Caps draft history.
by Yoshietree on Jul 2, 2009 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He’s been with the Panthers his whole career.
by David M. Getz on Jul 2, 2009 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
My apologies, I thought you were implying that he was a Caps prospect…not enough caffeine (or maybe too much)
by Yoshietree on Jul 2, 2009 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like the idea. Seems like you get the kind of presence you’d probably get with Osala, but you can keep Osala in the AHL to develop.
by David M. Getz on Jul 2, 2009 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why Not
Ovechkin – Backstrom – Knuble
Laich – Circles – Semin
Flash – Steckel – Bourque
Fehr – Gordon – Clark
Green – Erskine
Alzner – Poti
Carlson – Pothier
Juice
by WolfPackof1 on Jul 2, 2009 2:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Crap
Bradley for either Flash or Fehr
by WolfPackof1 on Jul 2, 2009 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Forwards:
Fehr doesn’t play the left wing
Defense:
Erskine doesn’t have the foot speed/agility to play with Green, Carlson’s not one to count on this early, and Jeff Schultz is better than Erskine and Jurcina (most of the time at least) and probably Pothier, Alzner, and Carlson.
by David M. Getz on Jul 2, 2009 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wouldn’t you rotate who you scratch depending on the type of play called for? I might scratch Juice if finesse defense is needed, but if I’m just planning to leave other-team-shaped dents in the boards and wear them down that way, I’d consider scratching Alzner, Schultz, or Poti.
"It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees." - Delores Ibarruri
by gotsparkly on Jul 3, 2009 9:16 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Comments For This Post Are Closed
Secondary Sidebar
FanPosts
Community blog posts and discussion.
Recommended FanPosts
Recent FanPosts
FanShots
Quick hits of video, photos, quotes, chats, links and lists that you find around the web.
Recommended FanShots
Recent FanShots
Rangers and Canucks brawl from yesterday. Kesler gets jumped by four Rangers, and a scrum ensues....
Southeast Standings
| GP | W | L | OTL | PT | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Washington
|
14 | 8 | 2 | 4 | 20 |
|
Tampa Bay
|
13 | 5 | 4 | 4 | 14 |
|
Atlanta
|
11 | 6 | 4 | 1 | 13 |
|
Florida
|
12 | 4 | 7 | 1 | 9 |
|
Carolina
|
13 | 2 | 8 | 3 | 7 |
(updated 11.4.2009 at 8:43 AM EST)
Certain photos copyright © 2009 by Associated Press or Getty Images. Any commercial use or distribution without the express written consent of Associated Press and Getty Images is strictly prohibited.
