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Calgary starts off the day by trading Jordan Leopold and a 3rd rounder for Jay Bouwmeester’s rights.

by cuqui on Jun 27, 2009 10:28 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Well, that means J-Bo plays in the Western Conference, which is sort of a plus for us.

"It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees." - Delores Ibarruri

by gotsparkly on Jun 27, 2009 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And you assume that Calgary thinks there’s a pretty good chance of signing him. Otherwise, for four days of negotiating rights, that’s insane.

by gfcaps fan on Jun 27, 2009 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If they think they have a pretty good chance of signing him, it’s because they’ve talked to him. Which is illegal, but people do it anyway. In which case, they can wait until Wednesday.

If they haven’t talked to him, but they just gave up Leopold and a third for the chance that they might sign him between now and Wednesday, they’re crazy. That’s true whether they sign him or not.

by Gould Old Days on Jun 27, 2009 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think they’ll have a great chance to sign him. He’s a Western boy, he wants to play in a hockey market for a winning team.

by D'ohboy on Jun 27, 2009 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You ever see that guy with the media? I’m not sure he wants to be in a huge hockey market.

by Fehr and Balanced on Jun 27, 2009 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

for a guy like him Calgary is a good middle ground. Its not the Toronto-level of hockey insanity, but its not Florida, either.

by RedBirdie on Jun 27, 2009 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’m thinking that perhaps there was a little negotiating via Florida. Like, do you think he’d like “X”? Which would be just short of a sign and trade.

by gfcaps fan on Jun 27, 2009 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If they think they have a pretty good chance of signing him, it’s because they’ve talked to him.

Hasn’t J-Bo said there were six teams he was interested in and named some of them?

by David M. Getz on Jun 27, 2009 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Leopold's a UFA

so it’s really a 3rd for four days—steep, but not insane, I think

by bilspacecadet on Jun 27, 2009 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yup. that makes all the difference. I withdraw my “c r a z y”

by Gould Old Days on Jun 27, 2009 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Caps take Dmitri Orlov

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by J.P. on Jun 27, 2009 10:31 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

International Scouting Services: “Orlov is a rushing defender with very good offensive skills. He loves to jump in from blue line to make plays. He has been a workhorse for the Russian national teams consistently playing every second shift for the Russian 91 group, and has been very effective. Orlov, who plays his off side has a strong shot and loves to jump into the zone from the weak side to become a potent scoring threat. He loves to rush the puck up ice and has very good inside out moves to get the puck and himself in deep into the offensive zone. Overall, a very hard-nosed player that everyone would love to have on his team.”

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by J.P. on Jun 27, 2009 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

(More vitals here)

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by J.P. on Jun 27, 2009 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dmitri Orlov
European Skater
Position: Defenseman Shoots: Left
Height: 6’ 0" Weight: 197
Born: July 23, 1991
Born in: Novokuznetsk, RUS

by cuqui on Jun 27, 2009 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Per NHL: “"Orlov is an extremely skilled offensive-minded defenseman with excellent hand eye coordination. He makes good, hard, tape-to-tape passes and his excellent stickhandling, supported by very efficient small dekes, gains him extra time and space. He isn’t overly physical, but he is noticeably strong."”

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by J.P. on Jun 27, 2009 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

So, Sergei Gonchar.

by Gould Old Days on Jun 27, 2009 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If he equals Sergei Gonchar, I won’t complain in the least.

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by gotsparkly on Jun 27, 2009 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Orlov!

Ranked ninth overall, questions about the transfer agreement kept him this low, right?

by TylerG on Jun 27, 2009 10:31 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

(9th European Skater, that is)

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by J.P. on Jun 27, 2009 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Right. 29th overall ISS.

by TylerG on Jun 27, 2009 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Still, you’re correct – he would have gone much higher if he weren’t Russian and there weren’t transfer issues. However, since we’re the (un)official Russian team in the States, that’s not really a concern for us.

by D'ohboy on Jun 27, 2009 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That was my first thought when I saw the pick.

by TylerG on Jun 27, 2009 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’m actually pretty stoked about this. I also thought we might snag Rajala, despite size issues. He absolutely ripped it up at the U-18, and he won’t fall to our next pick. I was actually kind of shocked that NJ didn’t take him…

by D'ohboy on Jun 27, 2009 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wonder if he’s already a Caps fan?

by RedBirdie on Jun 27, 2009 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Therefore, if you’re a team looking to fleece the Caps at the draft, hint that you’re going to take the next best Russian and get them to trade up? /snark

by gfcaps fan on Jun 27, 2009 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think many fans would be happier right now if the Caps had taken Orlov 24th and Johansson in the second round, even though the end result is the same.

Of course, none of us have our own scouting department…

by Gould Old Days on Jun 27, 2009 10:35 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Funny, we said the same thing re: Gustafsson and Carlson last year – happy to end up with both, but thought Carlson should’ve been the first pick.

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by J.P. on Jun 27, 2009 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It’s the Capital way – Carlson before Gustafsson, Schultz before Green, Eminger before Semin….

by David M. Getz on Jun 27, 2009 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And of course, the rational, economist analysis is “who cares? You got both of them anyway.”

Too bad we’re humans not robots.

by Gould Old Days on Jun 27, 2009 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Speak for yourself. I’m a cyborg.

by D'ohboy on Jun 27, 2009 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Absolutely. No complaints here, it’s just funny how the organization seems to have a habit of doing that.

by David M. Getz on Jun 27, 2009 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

As long as they always keep that second pick (you know, the good one), then they’ll be fine.

by Gould Old Days on Jun 27, 2009 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ovechkin before Schultz

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by ThePeerless on Jun 27, 2009 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pokulok before Finley.

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by J.P. on Jun 27, 2009 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I heard they were going to make a TV show out of the Caps’ 2005 draft…

“Lost”

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by ThePeerless on Jun 27, 2009 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

The more I read about Johansson, the more I like the pick – especially compared to Gus last year. Johansson has been playing in the Elite League, on the best team in that league. He also played very well at the WJC. Gus did none of those things.

by D'ohboy on Jun 27, 2009 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agree with this. Sounds like a guy who got underscouted and flew in under the radar. Everyone knew he was good, nobody sent enough scouts up to see him (and it was hard, since he was playing 10 minutes a night in the SEL), so everyone put him in the “big blob” between 30 and 50.

Sounds like the Caps know something other teams don’t…

by Gould Old Days on Jun 27, 2009 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Don’t discount “three concussions” scaring some people off.

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by J.P. on Jun 27, 2009 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Yeah, no kidding.

by Gould Old Days on Jun 27, 2009 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It’s gotta be a concern, but late in the first, everyone has warts.

by D'ohboy on Jun 27, 2009 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I suppose it could’ve been worse. You could have done a google image search for “genital warts.”

by D'ohboy on Jun 27, 2009 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why did Sidney Crosby’s picture come up?

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by ThePeerless on Jun 27, 2009 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That’s an insult to warts.

by gfcaps fan on Jun 27, 2009 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sidney Crosby is a virgin.

by bigmac1124 on Jun 27, 2009 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

are you sure? Judging by the gushing affection expressed by many Penguins fans, I’m pretty sure he’s having relations with the whole city.

by RedBirdie on Jun 27, 2009 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

There’s definitely room for it at Lemieux’s place.

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by boutros23 on Jun 27, 2009 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

On the one hand, I feel dirty laughing at this thread (along with helping to generate it). On the other hand, he brings in on himself.

by gfcaps fan on Jun 27, 2009 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

What’s funny about that is when all my Pitt friends came down for a Pens/Caps game in February, they all seemed to loathe Crosby at the time.

by bigmac1124 on Jun 27, 2009 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And now that they have that big shiny thing, they seem to love him.

by bigmac1124 on Jun 27, 2009 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Now why did you have to go give him ideas?

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by gotsparkly on Jun 27, 2009 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Some of the highlights in that reel JP posted were siiiiiiick.

by D'ohboy on Jun 27, 2009 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes, they were. I watched him and was reminded of Backstrom with a mean edge.

"It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees." - Delores Ibarruri

by gotsparkly on Jun 27, 2009 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’m not sure he’s quite as slick as Backis with the puck (but who is?), but he looks good along the boards and he seems very willing to go to the net.

by D'ohboy on Jun 27, 2009 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Like you said, who is? But he plays the same style of game from what I could see, and was willing to crash the net like you said. Like the rest of you, I was confused at first, the more I see, the more I like.

We’ll see how he turns out. He’s going to play another year in Sweden, right?

"It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees." - Delores Ibarruri

by gotsparkly on Jun 27, 2009 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Reminded me more of Steckel’s highlights.

by Gould Old Days on Jun 27, 2009 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kinda reminds me of Carlson last year. There were a ton of great D prospects so he kinda got lost in the wash and fell down to us. This year there were a ton of Swedes, mostly D, and he got lost in the shuffle a little bit. How many Swedes are the Canadian media really going to hype up in one year?

by Fehr and Balanced on Jun 27, 2009 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’m of the economist mindset. We got them both. Works for me.

"It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees." - Delores Ibarruri

by gotsparkly on Jun 27, 2009 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Y’know?…The Ogie Oglethorpe pose has really gotten old.

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by ThePeerless on Jun 27, 2009 10:36 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

35 minute round two. My how things change.

by TylerG on Jun 27, 2009 10:40 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Why couldn’t it have been that way last night??? I was exhausted…

by D'ohboy on Jun 27, 2009 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I kind of liked it, although I stole my friend’s keys about the middle of the round and we were both pretty happy by the time it finished.

"It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees." - Delores Ibarruri

by gotsparkly on Jun 27, 2009 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow. A draft-key party. Yet another hockey-Swingers collabo.

by D'ohboy on Jun 27, 2009 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Huh? No, it involved a drinking game. I have a thing about stealing friend’s keys if I think they’re not fit to drive.

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by gotsparkly on Jun 27, 2009 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Am I the only one who thinks NYI taking a G in R2 is weird?

by TylerG on Jun 27, 2009 10:44 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

It wouldn’t be a real draft without the Islanders taking some weird pick.

But then again, DiPietro gets hurt every other game.

by :hsughrofl: on Jun 27, 2009 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I thought they already had their quota with de Haan.

by D'ohboy on Jun 27, 2009 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think Koskinen was also picked in the draft on Thursday night.

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by ThePeerless on Jun 27, 2009 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rick DiPietro.

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by gotsparkly on Jun 27, 2009 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

They picked another in round 3, and it is another 6’5" goalie.

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by ThePeerless on Jun 27, 2009 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Are you surprised that Garth Snow has a soft spot for huge goalies?

by D'ohboy on Jun 27, 2009 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Also, who drafts a SWEDISH goalie? Haven’t they heard the old adage?

“If you’re a mediocre goalie in Finland, go to Sweden and you’ll be great.”

by D'ohboy on Jun 27, 2009 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Alright, I’m off to bake at the beach. Keep on rockin’ in the free open thread.

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by J.P. on Jun 27, 2009 10:44 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

We have beaches here?

by D'ohboy on Jun 27, 2009 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If by “here” you mean Dewey, DE, then yes.

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by J.P. on Jun 27, 2009 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dewey, DE . . .CIMAL system?

by D'ohboy on Jun 27, 2009 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nice

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by J.P. on Jun 27, 2009 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think there may only be a handful of us on here who are old enough to remember what that is.

by D'ohboy on Jun 27, 2009 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I balance my checkbook on my abacus.

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by boutros23 on Jun 27, 2009 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don’t know which part of that sentence is more antiquated – abacus or “checkbook.”

by D'ohboy on Jun 27, 2009 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Has anyone else noticed the ridiculous number of picks that Nashville has?

Two 2nds, two 3rds, three 4ths, two 5ths and two 7ths. Wow.

by D'ohboy on Jun 27, 2009 10:51 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

David Poile is going to come away with back to back seriously good drafts; that franchise is lucky to have him

from the house that Red Jesus built

by bigonetimer on Jun 27, 2009 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It’s too bad that they’re just a feeder system for the rest of the league, though. However, they probably make the playoffs last year if Radulov doesn’t bail.

by D'ohboy on Jun 27, 2009 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ryan Bourque to the Rags.

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by boutros23 on Jun 27, 2009 11:04 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

The Rags draft?

by bigmac1124 on Jun 27, 2009 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Those highlights of Ray Bourque have me choked up. He was so goddamn good.

by D'ohboy on Jun 27, 2009 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

This is what I hate about TSN and CBC

…relentless focus on Canadian teams.

by D'ohboy on Jun 27, 2009 11:09 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Gotta put the local-spin on things to keep your ratings up.

by bigmac1124 on Jun 27, 2009 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Or Canadian players. But they are the Canadian media. Until a US network invests in its own production, that’s just they way it is and we’re stuck with it.

by gfcaps fan on Jun 27, 2009 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You can’t argue that the commentary and the production of the Canadian broadcasts is superior to Versus.

by bigmac1124 on Jun 27, 2009 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Exactly. I’d rather have the Canadians do it and NHL network carry it than have Versus half-ass it.

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by boutros23 on Jun 27, 2009 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, we get a great shot of McKenzie checking his BlackBerry.

by D'ohboy on Jun 27, 2009 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Another small center… hmm…

by superjuan on Jun 27, 2009 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I look at him and I see Kris Draper.

by D'ohboy on Jun 27, 2009 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Comparable is Darren Helm. Dear God let it be so…

by Fehr and Balanced on Jun 27, 2009 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If he turns into a player in the mold of Darren Helm, I’ll be ecstatic.

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by gotsparkly on Jun 27, 2009 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

From Hockey News:

HT WT Team GP G A Pts PIM +/-
5-11 176 Swift Current (WHL) 54 24 24 48 42 18
 
Scouting Report: In his second year with the Broncos, he placed fifth on the club with 24 goals, and eighth in points with 48, in 54 games in 2008-09… has good speed and awareness, which helps him in defensive situations… works hard and is capable of providing his team with an energy spark from time to time… doesn’t have ideal NHL size for the center position… was rated 29th among North American skaters in Central Scouting’s final rankings

by cuqui on Jun 27, 2009 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

from @cmasisak22

Eakin listed his favorite player before the draft as Alex Ovechkin.

by bilspacecadet on Jun 27, 2009 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

HE'S A GINGER!!!!

I’m sooooo creeped out right now.

by D'ohboy on Jun 27, 2009 11:13 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

You saw one suit up for 87 games last season. Big deal.

by :hsughrofl: on Jun 27, 2009 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Flash isn’t really a ginger, he just has red hair – he’s a daywalker.

by D'ohboy on Jun 27, 2009 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Plus, I’m also being silly.

by D'ohboy on Jun 27, 2009 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nickname, per NHL.com, is Squeaks.

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by boutros23 on Jun 27, 2009 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

McKenzie making a great point right now

This is where the scouts make their money. The guys in rounds 1 and 2 are pretty much known by everyone – after that, it’s all scouting.

by D'ohboy on Jun 27, 2009 11:18 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Only two "real" trades thus far

Pronger and Bouwmeester. What a boring draft.

by D'ohboy on Jun 27, 2009 11:22 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Heatley talk has definitely gone away.

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by boutros23 on Jun 27, 2009 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It’ll pick up next week/

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by ThePeerless on Jun 27, 2009 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I hope so. This is as stagnant as the day before a thunderstorm.

by D'ohboy on Jun 27, 2009 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That’s every draft. We hear about the multitude of mega deals to come and then there’s one or two.

by David M. Getz on Jun 27, 2009 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Except last year. 4 big deals, a handful of smaller ones, and 2/3 of the picks were shuffled around (or so it felt).

That was fun.

by brs03 on Jun 27, 2009 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good Draft for the Caps So Far

I’m a little bummed that we haven’t moved anyone (such as Morrissonn), but we got three good players, two at a position of need, and two guys who were slotted much higher than we drafted them at. I think Orlov will be the Caps’ “steal” of this draft.

by D'ohboy on Jun 27, 2009 11:26 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Lepisto to Coyotes for a 5th round pick?

by :hsughrofl: on Jun 27, 2009 11:57 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

http://twitter.com/mlse/status/2360102715

“#capitals trade Lepisto to #coyotes for 5th Rd in 2010 #nhldraft”

5th round though, that’s it?

by :hsughrofl: on Jun 27, 2009 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

RFA rights. And clears room in the AHL where there was a D backlog.

by TylerG on Jun 27, 2009 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Your like a contract expert, you should be the team’s financial advisor lol.

by bigmac1124 on Jun 27, 2009 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

So more of a Nylander-esque hopeful “bag of pucks” type trade. Got it.

by :hsughrofl: on Jun 27, 2009 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah he seems like more of a 3rd or 4th round value, but I couldn’t tell you because I don’t know that much about Lepisto.

by bigmac1124 on Jun 27, 2009 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If Lepisto were a baseball player, you’d call him a AAAA player – too good for the AHL, not good enough for the NHL. He’s never going to see much time with the Caps, so this wasn’t a terrible move. It would have been nice to get something slightly higher, but whatever.

by D'ohboy on Jun 27, 2009 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Orlov is the new Lepisto, with perhaps more of a physical presence.

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by ThePeerless on Jun 27, 2009 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And it sounds like he may be a better skater. May. Be.

by TylerG on Jun 27, 2009 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lepisto is a pretty good skater. His problem was holding his own physically in his own end. The stuff about Orlov says he’s pretty strong so I really hope he pans out better than Sami.

by Fehr and Balanced on Jun 27, 2009 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Don’t agree on Lepisto’s skating. At all. Thought he was Erskine-level footspeed.

by TylerG on Jun 27, 2009 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

So he’s small and can’t skate? Doesn’t seem like anyone would want that package. How many undersized offensive defensemen can you think of that aren’t above average skaters? If he had Erskine footspeed he would have never made it out of Finland.

by Fehr and Balanced on Jun 27, 2009 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think Lepisto is a great example of quick vs. fast. I think his first step is atrocious and it takes him time to get up to speed, but once he’s there, he’s a pretty decent skater.

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by J.P. on Jun 27, 2009 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

True, once your past the first two rounds, a pick is a pick, IMO.

by bigmac1124 on Jun 27, 2009 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I disagree. You’re not really trading the player, you’re trading his RFA rights. And if you’re Sami, don’t you think about going back to Europe….

by TylerG on Jun 27, 2009 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

With a player as young as Lepisto, you’re essentially trading the player. Despite his RFA status, he’s got no bargaining position – like you said, his only option is going back to Europe.

by D'ohboy on Jun 27, 2009 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The thing is that Lepisto was an established player in Europe before he came over. If he can’t crack the NHL roster next season, he’s perfectly willing in going back, and with the Caps and their depth in defensemen, he ain’t cracking the roster anytime soon. The time to trade Lepisto was the March trade deadline as a package sweetner, but unfortunately, he was injured at the time and supposedly out for the season.

by Forsch31 on Jun 28, 2009 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think he gives it at least one more try to crack an NHL lineup. He’s still a little young to give up on the NHL.

by Fehr and Balanced on Jun 27, 2009 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I knew it was unlikely that he’d ever be more than an occasional injury callup on this team, but I was still hoping to get more than a 5th. He could, on a bad team, be a regular NHLer.

by :hsughrofl: on Jun 27, 2009 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He’ll probably get more opportunity to be an NHLer in the desert.

by bigmac1124 on Jun 27, 2009 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Phoenix actually has quite a deep defensive corps. He probably won’t crack their lineup barring injury.

by D'ohboy on Jun 27, 2009 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

They do? Boy, even with the CGY trade I’m not sure I’d call PHX deep at D.

by TylerG on Jun 27, 2009 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jovo, Sauer, Michalek, Yandle, Hale, Kalinin, Klee.

That’s not terrible. I also don’t see Lepisto beating out any of those guys, except Klee.

by D'ohboy on Jun 27, 2009 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wonder if he likes Ontario

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by ThePeerless on Jun 27, 2009 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He probably would have been, if the Caps weren’t backed into a corner. It sounds like it was trade him or lose him to Europe, so they traded him and couldn’t work the magic in terms of getting value.

by brs03 on Jun 27, 2009 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

UPDATE

Fifth round ahead. This is where (if you’re OFB) you think about moving Jeff Schultz for a pick.

by TylerG on Jun 27, 2009 12:16 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Schultz for Lepisto!

by :hsughrofl: on Jun 27, 2009 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

who did ferraro fall to?

by hockeyman33 on Jun 27, 2009 12:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

DET

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by bigonetimer on Jun 27, 2009 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Detroit in the 2nd

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by ThePeerless on Jun 27, 2009 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

dang. there is their first round pick

by hockeyman33 on Jun 27, 2009 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

There’s now video up of an interview with Orlov on the Caps site. Appears quite thrilled to be drafted by the American division of the Red Army. Used an interpreter, but Tarik did ask “How well do you know English?” and he replied in English “A little” with a smile on his face.

by RedBirdie on Jun 27, 2009 12:43 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

In the 7th Round

Please select Anton Burdasov…I know he is a risk, but very good talent and probably a 2nd or 3rd rounder if not from Russia.

by CapsFanSince1979 on Jun 27, 2009 1:03 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Anyone have GMGM’s cell number so I can call him to take Burdasov.

by CapsFanSince1979 on Jun 27, 2009 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Anton Burdasov, RW
6’3, 202
May 9th, 1991
Chelyabinsk, Russia

This big scorer can be another interesting player for the North American scouts as he has already an NHL body paired with some good skills. Burdasov has a good scoring touch. He keeps on getting very good statistics with the ’91’s, but despite of this Andrei Nazarov – one of the few KHL coaches that are giving room to the youngsters in this season – is yet to dress him with the main team. This might hurt his stock even if he’s going to represent Russia in the Under-18’s. He would have been called a hot prospect if not for the current tensions between Russian and North American hockey systems and if he was getting pro hockey ice time back at home.

by CapsFanSince1979 on Jun 27, 2009 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

They selected Ben Casavant, LW

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by ThePeerless on Jun 27, 2009 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I just read the Cody Eakin “What they’re saying about…” and my first reaction is “this is a kid who’s going to fall into Mike Green’s orbit quickly.”

by Gould Old Days on Jun 27, 2009 1:05 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

that kid is just so absolutely excited to be picked by the Caps. TEB has some stuff on him. he can’t wait to get invited to camp and meet the guys on his favorite team.

by RedBirdie on Jun 27, 2009 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just finished moving from Richmond back home. Glad we took a Russian because it means my blogs’ name is still relevant. With so many Swedes, I was fearing a change.

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by CapitalsKremlin on Jun 27, 2009 1:11 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Capitals Flygplatsen?

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by ThePeerless on Jun 27, 2009 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Capitals Ikea Outlet works too

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by CapitalsKremlin on Jun 27, 2009 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Per Corey: Caps 7th pick is Benjamin Casavant, a LW from PEI who had 39 goals and 80 points this past season.

by cuqui on Jun 27, 2009 1:42 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

And 6-1, 210. Combined with his G/A, those are not 7th-round numbers. I wonder what the story is…

by TylerG on Jun 27, 2009 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

With that size I’d be willing to bet the knock is his skating or injury history. He played in the Q so those point totals aren’t that incredible but I’m still surprised he was a 7th round pick.

by Fehr and Balanced on Jun 27, 2009 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Skating and conditioning, say the HFBoards locals.

by TylerG on Jun 27, 2009 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

he’ll be pleased to hear Bruce’s ideas on those topics

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by bigonetimer on Jun 27, 2009 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Worst skater in the draft, or so I’ve heard. That’s pretty impressive actually, if he turns on his conditioning at all he’s probably a steal.

by brs03 on Jun 27, 2009 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Eakin

Style: Darren Helm
If he ends up like Helm, I’d be happy.

by letsgocaps on Jun 27, 2009 1:44 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

After being nonplussed (but pulling out of it) by yesterday, I think George recovered to do a pretty solid job today. I hate to put the onus of a draft’s success on one guy, but Orlov had better be everything Craig Button seems to think he is.

I still want to know what kind of shenanigans GMGM/Chiarelli and then Julien/Boudreau discussed yesterday.

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by bigonetimer on Jun 27, 2009 3:57 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

GMGM fairly gushed about him on the video on the team’s website. That surprised me. You don’t hear GMGM do much gushing.

by TylerG on Jun 27, 2009 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

he did at that

now, about the roster for next year…

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by bigonetimer on Jun 27, 2009 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

According to Tarik, it was about swapping their first round draft picks.

by letsgocaps on Jun 27, 2009 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That’s what I read as well, but why do you need the coaches swapping data on the heels of the GM-level convo….just something to look at going forward. By not making a stab at 2C this weekend and (imo) an unfavorable UFA market this summer, I am beginning to believe the expiring contract concept DMG and others have batted about for a top flight guy might be the very best way to go to fill this. Savard could well be a target and the coaches were talking personnel qualitative data. And I am totally speculating.

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by bigonetimer on Jun 27, 2009 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’m with your speculation. It doesn’t make sense to swap picks with the team drafting right next to you at that point in the round, especially that early in the draft. When they were talking they had no idea who was going to be available so a swap wasn’t really helpful to either team. In the video on the Caps’ site GMGM said they were talking about offers they both received from other teams to move back in the draft. There’s more going on than he’s letting on.

by Fehr and Balanced on Jun 27, 2009 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was kind of thinking the same thing when I read it. Corey Masisak from TWT twittered it, and I was thinking that there just HAD to be something more talked about than trading for a spot down. If they were talking Savard, when do you think a deal would be done by and who/what would it cost us?

And off topic, but we should learn how to say Dmitri Orlov’s surname in case he becomes a superstar come playoffs because of lack luster performance by someone on the blueline. (I keed, I keed!)

by letsgocaps on Jun 27, 2009 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, Boston has to be looking to shed salary … I’m not a real good judge of worth yet or what a fair trade is, but I have to think that a deal for Savard involves Chris Bourque.

"It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees." - Delores Ibarruri

by gotsparkly on Jun 27, 2009 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’m not a real good judge of worth yet or what a fair trade is

Never stopped the rest of us from pontificating…

by Gould Old Days on Jun 28, 2009 12:57 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe Boudreau and Julien were just bored by that god awful long first round and were discussing their favorite brand of golf clubs. I don’t think we can really read too much into it.

Hi by the way, long time reader, first time poster.

by crafty0ne on Jun 28, 2009 9:09 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Remember also McPhee’s infamous quote from the 2006 draft: “Well, we have to make it look like we’re doing something over here.” Who’s to say that the two of them weren’t looking busy just to make other teams nervous?

"It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees." - Delores Ibarruri

by gotsparkly on Jun 28, 2009 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Touche.

On the other hand, we know how McPhee plays poker, so you never know. Just doesn’t seem like anything will come of it.

by gfcaps fan on Jun 28, 2009 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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