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Caps trade 24th pick to Cavaliers for Shaq. Bank on it.

Capitals Kremlin the second line center of the Caps blogosphere.

by CapitalsKremlin on Jun 26, 2009 3:36 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

The image of Shaquille O’Neal on ice skates nearly triggered a gigglefit.

"It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees." - Delores Ibarruri

by gotsparkly on Jun 26, 2009 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Only nearly?

by gfcaps fan on Jun 26, 2009 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It’s not as if tall basketball players haven’t been picked up by hockey teams before. Manute Bol was signed to a CHL contract at one point. http://espn.go.com/minorlh/news/2002/1112/1460103.html

I'm so sick and tired of the refs explaining the calls like this is the NFL.

by Whiter Mage on Jun 26, 2009 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

But we’re talking Shaq. OTOH, he’d be great for a quote.

by gfcaps fan on Jun 26, 2009 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Crease-clearing Big Fella!

by war_capitals on Jun 26, 2009 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I know that is a referrence to some once great sports league, but I can’t quite put my finger on it……

by SethB on Jun 26, 2009 3:43 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Bonjour à tous! Bienvenue à le repêchage de la NHL 2009!

by Stephen Pepper on Jun 26, 2009 3:45 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Beer of the night: From Boulder, Colo., Avery IPA.

by TylerG on Jun 26, 2009 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nice.

Just for the fact that it’s a Quebec beer and red, I might offer Maudite.

by Stephen Pepper on Jun 26, 2009 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

mmmm Avery. Good choice. Don’t like them quite as much as Odell Brewery, but damn tasty.

by eeyeats on Jun 26, 2009 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

For my $, the best IPAs in the USA right now are Lagunitas, Anderson Valley, Avery, Victory and Bear Republic.

by TylerG on Jun 26, 2009 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Stone and Dogfish Head, along with Lagunitas, are my three favorites. Southern Tier makes a pretty tasty IPA, as well.

Plus, you get to read the stuff on the side of the Stone bottles, which is always good for a chuckle, at least when you’re buzzed.

by Knee high to a duck on Jun 26, 2009 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yay dogfish head! :)

(i work at the restaurant, haha)

they taught me to actually kind of like beer there… and that’s quite a feat for me.

by kellobellow on Jun 26, 2009 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dogfish (barring Brickskellar) is my favorite bar, because it’s actually a bar. I don’t have to scream to be heard, the beer is excellent and I can get to know the bartenders.

I just turned 24 and I’m already a grouchy old man.

by Knee high to a duck on Jun 26, 2009 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I adore the bar staff at Dogfish Gaithersburg!

by RedBirdie on Jun 26, 2009 7:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I just meant brewery in general. And since I’m in Colorado, I’m pretty familiar with the full lines of both. Avery could very well have a better IPA, specifically. Can’t go wrong with either as far as I’m concerned.

Dogfish Head is great too.

by eeyeats on Jun 26, 2009 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bonjour à tous! Bienvenue à le repêchage de la NHL 2009!

Le booooooo!

by Bald Pollack on Jun 26, 2009 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

Tough crowd. And it’s almost Friday happy hour!

by Stephen Pepper on Jun 26, 2009 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

AND I WON’T GET TO WATCH! But I’ll be keeping up with my iPhone – can I comment mobile-ly?

by DrinkingPartner on Jun 26, 2009 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Depends on the quality of the comment. ;-)

by TylerG on Jun 26, 2009 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

My comments are always classic! Previous comments like: “Fuck yeah!” “That’s right!” “Flash sucks!” and so on.

How can you question the quality of my commentary?!

by DrinkingPartner on Jun 26, 2009 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

“Flash sucks?” Yes, then you may sit next to me. ;-)

by TylerG on Jun 26, 2009 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Tough crowd. And it’s almost Friday happy hour!

I was just channeling Habs fan when Der Kommissar takes the stage.

by Bald Pollack on Jun 26, 2009 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That should have ben LNH XD

"It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees." - Delores Ibarruri

by gotsparkly on Jun 26, 2009 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

merci, t’as raison.

by Stephen Pepper on Jun 26, 2009 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ce n’est rien. :)

(I never thought I’d get any use out of college-level French until I started following hockey – suddenly it became DAMN USEFUL :D)

"It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees." - Delores Ibarruri

by gotsparkly on Jun 26, 2009 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sitting in a quality “Days Inn” in Montreal… If anything “fun” happens… i’ll update. Have they added a mobile comment feature yet to the mobile webpage??

i’m already drunk. we’re heading to the repechage in about 45 minutes. looking for pierre mcguire… he needs to be heckled.

by Scofield on Jun 26, 2009 4:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I’m going to be drunk off my ass at the Aberdeen Ironbirds game tonight, following the draft more closely than the game :-). Anyone here ever been to that park?

by DrinkingPartner on Jun 26, 2009 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don’t think the mobile version of this site allows for comments, but you can view everything perfectly.

Tell pierre to go to hell for me. — don’t know why, I just don’t like that dude.

by vt caps fan on Jun 26, 2009 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Great Scofield – let us know what you see and hear.

Unfortunately, still no mobile commenting on SB Nation as of yet.

by Stephen Pepper on Jun 26, 2009 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

small recap

First – the obvious – massive boos for “Gerry Bettman” as he was displayed on the big screen, toronto, and boston.

it seemed to me that the centre bell has great atmosphere… i’d like to see a game here.

as phoenix was on the clock… bettman announces ":next on the clock … PHOEN IX…. coyotes

…then starts the chants HAM – IL – TON …. HAM – IL – TON!!!

it was at this point we realized that this draft was going to take 6 hours and began to wander. we did move down to the second row… where during the caps pic, we made a small amount of noise and were noticed and thanked by GMGM and BB. Some guy I don’t know came over from the table and gave us a draft day hat. so that was pretty cool.

it was the after hours that made the night… that might be a different thread.

by Scofield on Jun 27, 2009 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Any draft night drinking games to share? Certainly any mention of reaching should require a reach for your beverage . . .

by Stephen Pepper on Jun 26, 2009 4:37 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Any time anyone talks about Brian Burke trying to trade up.

Oh, no, wait, we’d all be dead before the first selection was actually made.

by David M. Getz on Jun 26, 2009 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pronger trade rumors.

by TylerG on Jun 26, 2009 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Alcoholics Anonymous edition

When TEB blogs something interesting.

by TylerG on Jun 26, 2009 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Make up an over/under on Swedes taken in the first 2 rounds, and drink the difference (actual)

by Bald Pollack on Jun 26, 2009 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You’re not a fan of this one?

Bonjour from Montreal, Caps fans. I just arrived a little while ago and went straight into a Professional Hockey Writers’ Association meeting at the media hotel. So I’m playing catch up at the moment.

Anyway, I just wanted to post a quick note letting everyone know that I’ll be at Bell Centre tonight and will be blogging all the Caps’ news that goes down, live from draft floor. I hope to be up and running around 6 or so, soon after a quick chat with Bruce Boudreau.

by Gould Old Days on Jun 26, 2009 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

An “interesting pick” should make your beverage interesting.

"It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees." - Delores Ibarruri

by gotsparkly on Jun 26, 2009 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Luongo

Here’s a question: Why are the ‘Nucks doing the Luongo extension now? He’s got a year left. What’s the urgency?!

(In a related story: VAN has apparently decided that Cory Schneider is not the future. And in one fell-swoop they’ve destroyed much of his value as an asset.)

by TylerG on Jun 26, 2009 4:44 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Because he couldn’t beat Hershey? Wow. Didn’t I keep hearing he won best goalie in the AHL this year?

by gfcaps fan on Jun 26, 2009 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I didn’t think he showed much all year, except a lot of .ca-centric chatter. Take a look at his NHL stats.

by TylerG on Jun 26, 2009 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sorry, I was trying to snark, but it didn’t come out right. Damn internets.

by gfcaps fan on Jun 26, 2009 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes, he did, though AHL accolades don’t say much about NHL success.

by Stephen Pepper on Jun 26, 2009 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, he didn’t exactly have a lot of help from his offensive lines.

"It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees." - Delores Ibarruri

by gotsparkly on Jun 26, 2009 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Two hours to go….
Here’s a nice article from NBC Sports picking the Caps for SC 09-10 champs.

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by boutros23 on Jun 26, 2009 4:58 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Oh, geez. did he have to? This early?

by gfcaps fan on Jun 26, 2009 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And dammit, it’s Bill Clement. GMGM is going to have to work extra hard to get around that vote of confidence.

by Gould Old Days on Jun 26, 2009 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL.

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by boutros23 on Jun 26, 2009 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Awww crap. We’re doomed. :P

"It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees." - Delores Ibarruri

by gotsparkly on Jun 26, 2009 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wait a minute, I will correct myself. It’s not early — early would have been June 12th. At which time I believe the discussion had in fact already started.

by gfcaps fan on Jun 26, 2009 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Has even one interesting thing happened yet today?

by Gould Old Days on Jun 26, 2009 5:15 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Uh, Does Claude Lemieux becoming an American citizen count? ;)

by Stephen Pepper on Jun 26, 2009 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Judge said “I can’t believe I read that guy his freaking oath…”

by Gould Old Days on Jun 26, 2009 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

Then Lemieux tripped him as he was leaving the bench.

If you've read this far...seek help.

by ThePeerless on Jun 26, 2009 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions   3 recs

Any of you guys following the Pronger to the Caps discussion on Twitter?

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by boutros23 on Jun 26, 2009 6:09 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yes. It’s become numbingly stupid right away.

by TylerG on Jun 26, 2009 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If the Caps can move 26/4/23 and the No. 55 it’s a good deal.

The guy who defended a bizarre idea by saying that the Caps could trade Carlson/etc. if they wanted to get the deal done is… not helpful. I mean, the Caps could trade AO if they wanted to get the deal done, fer chrissakes.

by TylerG on Jun 26, 2009 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed. Carlson/Alzner/Neuvirth would be ridiculously stupid.

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by boutros23 on Jun 26, 2009 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Do you think that Pronger would actually go for that? Would that be enough, and can we fit him under the cap?

"It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees." - Delores Ibarruri

by gotsparkly on Jun 26, 2009 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why would Pronger have to go for it? Does he have a NTC/NMC? (FWIW: I have no idea.)

by TylerG on Jun 26, 2009 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He forced his trade from EDM to ANA and I think was traded from STL to EDM on the same contract. Any NMC he had has long since been waived. But I think she meant would Pronger be traded away for that package, to which I think the answer is yes.

by Fehr and Balanced on Jun 26, 2009 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Quote of the day so far, from NHL on the Fly — “Matt Duschene would probably be a #1 pick if it weren’t for Tavares and Hedman”

by Gould Old Days on Jun 26, 2009 6:12 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

geniuses.

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by boutros23 on Jun 26, 2009 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

How embarrassing is it for the NHL that this low-rent production is on NHL NETWORK (!!!!) 45 minutes before the draft.

by TylerG on Jun 26, 2009 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Talking heads. Some are better than others. Then there are the ones on NHL On The Fly. //snark

Even when I eagerly watch that piece of crap (i.e., after a Caps win), I gag.

by gfcaps fan on Jun 26, 2009 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

One hour of TV time + JP + DMG/Pepper/me + a 12-pack of Victory Hop Devil = Better TV than ANY studio show on NHL Network.

by TylerG on Jun 26, 2009 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

that is a bold statement, sir. Exactly how many of those Avery’s have you had? : )

from the house that Red Jesus built

by bigonetimer on Jun 26, 2009 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL None. But a cat, a parrot and a 12-pack would be better TV than anything on NHLN.

by TylerG on Jun 26, 2009 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No question. Larry Murphy must be about 3 fingers into his third scotch before he even takes the set.

I do love OTF’s extended highlights, though!

from the house that Red Jesus built

by bigonetimer on Jun 26, 2009 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Red Wings would have won the Cup if they’d won four games.

If you've read this far...seek help.

by ThePeerless on Jun 26, 2009 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I have inside information that the NYI are going to select Duschene first to try to enrage their fans to the point that they burn down the Colliseum. Then the Town of Hempstead will be forced to build a new arena. Garth Snow is brilliant.

by Fehr and Balanced on Jun 26, 2009 6:15 PM EDT reply actions   2 recs

RDS reporting that DanyDeal09 is almost done.

by TylerG on Jun 26, 2009 6:28 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Finally. I’m sick of hearing about Heatley.

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by boutros23 on Jun 26, 2009 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Here’s hoping he goes to New Delhi for some Bollywood actresses.

I'm so sick and tired of the refs explaining the calls like this is the NFL.

by Whiter Mage on Jun 26, 2009 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dreger says Flyers are in “serious discussion” to land Pronger.

by Bald Pollack on Jun 26, 2009 6:36 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

PHL would have to move a LOT of money to make that happen. Pronger: $6.25M hit.

by TylerG on Jun 26, 2009 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Isn’t Philly up hard against the cap limit already? That seems unlikely for them to make that much room.

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by boutros23 on Jun 26, 2009 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Assuming it’s legit, figure they’ll have to part with Rathje and Jones, or face a logjam back there.

by Bald Pollack on Jun 26, 2009 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Anaheim must be ‘serious’ about Briere…

from the house that Red Jesus built

by bigonetimer on Jun 26, 2009 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Or Lupul. Or Gagne.

by TylerG on Jun 26, 2009 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

bear in mind, Dreger has a ‘hunch’ the Isles are picking Duchene…

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by bigonetimer on Jun 26, 2009 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why do I get that picture in my mind of Johnny Carson in the genie hat making predictions?

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by boutros23 on Jun 26, 2009 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

From the TSN bog. Take it for what it’s worth.

Agent Pat Brisson, who represents John Tavares and Matt Duchene, told Ryan Rishaug today that he does not know what the Islanders intend to do with the top pick. Brisson said he usually knows by now, adding that Garth Snow’s cone of silence act is something he’s never experienced in 20 years at the draft.

by Bald Pollack on Jun 26, 2009 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

um, Brisson’s done business with GMGM before. He should be used to absurd silence.

by RedBirdie on Jun 26, 2009 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

ooh…the tension. It’s like a zit about to pop…

…that doesn’t.

If you've read this far...seek help.

by ThePeerless on Jun 26, 2009 6:51 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Eric Duhatschek: Pronger to Philly: I’m told it’s happening.

by TylerG on Jun 26, 2009 6:53 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

as an EC opponent, I’m not thrilled.

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by boutros23 on Jun 26, 2009 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

ughhhh. boo.

by kellobellow on Jun 26, 2009 7:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Announced on TSN

No details provided yet.

by alexthe8 on Jun 26, 2009 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Appears to be Lupul and picks, says ESPN.

by Bald Pollack on Jun 26, 2009 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Darren Dreger at TSN says Lupul, Sbisa and 2 firsts.

by Ames on Jun 26, 2009 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Off topic, but I flipped over to MTV to see if they were still playing Michael Jackson’s videos, and Jon Norris was on there, and a worse-looking human being I have not seen.

by Bald Pollack on Jun 26, 2009 6:55 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

MTV Jams is Norris-less

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by boutros23 on Jun 26, 2009 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It’s draft night. You don’t have to watch!

by TylerG on Jun 26, 2009 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And We. Are. Live. on Versus.

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by boutros23 on Jun 26, 2009 7:00 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

You delivered that better than Engblom.

by Bald Pollack on Jun 26, 2009 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Whoops, talking head guess fail.

by Bald Pollack on Jun 26, 2009 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Some of these GMs are freakishly ugly.

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by boutros23 on Jun 26, 2009 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks for sharing.

by TylerG on Jun 26, 2009 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

This just in

Avery’s IPA is velvety hoppy!

by TylerG on Jun 26, 2009 7:09 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Garth Snow may pick the IPA over Duchene.

by Bald Pollack on Jun 26, 2009 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Nice call by Bettman to come out with the legends and minimize the booing

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by bigonetimer on Jun 26, 2009 7:13 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

a little

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by bigonetimer on Jun 26, 2009 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Boos to Bettman

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by boutros23 on Jun 26, 2009 7:14 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Gary. Ass. getting his typical welcome.

by cuqui on Jun 26, 2009 7:14 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

the suck up

va fair foutre, Gary

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by bigonetimer on Jun 26, 2009 7:15 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

C’est vrai

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by boutros23 on Jun 26, 2009 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Henri Richard still looks like he could and would kick everyone’s ass.

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by boutros23 on Jun 26, 2009 7:15 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Okposo, Bailey and Tavares…. interesting….

by TylerG on Jun 26, 2009 7:18 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

how much time between picks?

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by bigonetimer on Jun 26, 2009 7:18 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

It’s Tavares. And Snow ended up head-faking out nearly everyone.

by cuqui on Jun 26, 2009 7:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

The scene at the Mausoleum still looks like the early ’80s.

by Stephen Pepper on Jun 26, 2009 7:20 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

oh man, on his highlight he completely messed up Varly during the world juniors

by amkcaps on Jun 26, 2009 7:20 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I feel much better now.

Lupul, Sbisa, and two First round picks.

by Fehr and Balanced on Jun 26, 2009 7:22 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

agreed. i was upset when i heard that they got him. now im not. we can deal with him 4 times a year

by amkcaps on Jun 26, 2009 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

wonder if Mike Green agrees…..

by Ames on Jun 26, 2009 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

oh goody…

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by boutros23 on Jun 26, 2009 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

wow.

Great deal for ANA

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by bigonetimer on Jun 26, 2009 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yup. PHI made that move to win now. If they don’t win this year they are in trouble. No great D prospect, no 2 first round picks. They will be tough but gave up a lot. I’m only shocked they didn’t give up any of their scoring depth really.

by Fehr and Balanced on Jun 26, 2009 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Win now with Ray Emery in goal. Right.

by cuqui on Jun 26, 2009 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

They’ve still got Van Riemsdyk.

by Bald Pollack on Jun 26, 2009 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow…. That is WAY too much

by gnuf on Jun 26, 2009 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It’s essentially 3 consecutive first rounds and Lupul

by gnuf on Jun 26, 2009 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

TSN has still reported more on the TOR non-deal than on the PHL-ANA ACTUAL Pronger deal.

by TylerG on Jun 26, 2009 7:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

You’re surprised by this?

by Bald Pollack on Jun 26, 2009 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dreger on TSN blog: Pronger traded to Philly. Deal is for Lupul, Sbisa and 2 firsts.

by Stephen Pepper on Jun 26, 2009 7:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

For the Caps that is like Laich, Alzner, and 2 Firsts. No way I would do that.

by Fehr and Balanced on Jun 26, 2009 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

exactley right. i dont get it… they really want to win this year

by amkcaps on Jun 26, 2009 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

With Ray F’in Emery in goal.

by TylerG on Jun 26, 2009 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Philly’s going to be interesting this coming year.

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by boutros23 on Jun 26, 2009 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i didnt say they were smart, or that they were going to win. just that they want to

by amkcaps on Jun 26, 2009 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

PHL is about six million over the cap right now.

by TylerG on Jun 26, 2009 7:25 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I wonder if they’d be willing to trade Jeff Carter. That’d be crazy, but so’s the deal they just made.

by Gould Old Days on Jun 26, 2009 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Can they bury Briere in Allentown/AHL?!

by TylerG on Jun 26, 2009 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wowwwww. Interesting.

by TylerG on Jun 26, 2009 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yup. I just hope nobody takes him off their hands, but you’re right (below) if they do it’s going to be for peanuts on the dollar because of that contract.

by Fehr and Balanced on Jun 26, 2009 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I did not want Hedman in the SE. I knew it would happen but I was hoping it wouldn’t.

by Fehr and Balanced on Jun 26, 2009 7:28 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

he’s a beast. Now him and Pronger in the EC.

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by boutros23 on Jun 26, 2009 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

not to be mean or anything, whats wrong with hedmans face?

by amkcaps on Jun 26, 2009 7:29 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I’ve wondered if that’s a birthmark.

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by boutros23 on Jun 26, 2009 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

he has it in all the highlights

by amkcaps on Jun 26, 2009 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He’s a Jonas Brother.

by TylerG on Jun 26, 2009 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He’s still a nice looking guy, no doubt.

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by boutros23 on Jun 26, 2009 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh – per Corey – GMGM chatting with Chiarelli…… alone in a dark corner

by Ames on Jun 26, 2009 7:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

that is encouraging.

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by bigonetimer on Jun 26, 2009 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ultimately the Flyers will give up Sbisa, Lupul *and another player* for Pronger. They’re $6M over. So that means that they’ll have to move another body to make room for him. The deal for ANA is only part of the REAL deal.

by TylerG on Jun 26, 2009 7:33 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Right, but they’ll possibly get something else back for that other player. If they trade Gagne for a first then they both add to the cost for getting Pronger and take away from the cost.

by Fehr and Balanced on Jun 26, 2009 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

A significant player, too, if it’s a 6 million cap hit. More likely two players, I would think.

by Knee high to a duck on Jun 26, 2009 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nope. They’ll be salary-dumping, trading salary for a fifth or something. Welcome to the capped NHL, eh?

by TylerG on Jun 26, 2009 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Right, but to dump 6 million in salary, it’s going to take one of their best players under contract or two other ones, if I understand that point you’re making.

by Knee high to a duck on Jun 26, 2009 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh I gotcha, I thought you meant that PHL would get something back for that salary dump. Sorry.

by TylerG on Jun 26, 2009 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The dream would be Briere. I don’t know how much they really need to shed on top of this. They got rid of 4.25 with Lupul and they don’t have much more to sign.

by Fehr and Balanced on Jun 26, 2009 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Another G, at least.

by TylerG on Jun 26, 2009 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And a seventh D, perhaps.

by TylerG on Jun 26, 2009 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yup but that will cost less than a mill and so will the 7th D if they don’t just pull guys from the AHL to fill it.

by Fehr and Balanced on Jun 26, 2009 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed. But all it takes is one injury to F up your cap. See WSH, 08-09.

by TylerG on Jun 26, 2009 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah I’m not endorsing the position they put themselves in, I just don’t think they need any more major moves to make this fit under the cap.

by Fehr and Balanced on Jun 26, 2009 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

They have to move $6M in salary! That’s major!

by TylerG on Jun 26, 2009 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

But Lupul and Sbisa are $5M of that right?

by Ames on Jun 26, 2009 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

According to NHLNumbers, even after Sbisa and Lupul: PHL is over. The Cap Geek numbers don’t include bonus cushion, right?

by TylerG on Jun 26, 2009 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bonuses are included in cap hit but not in salary (so they say).

by Bald Pollack on Jun 26, 2009 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ooops: Per Vogel: Teams can exceed the cap with a bonus cushion of up to 7.5%.

by TylerG on Jun 26, 2009 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

54.926 – 4.25 + 6.25 = 56.926

The cap is at 56.8 correct? That’s .126 they need to cut. I think they’ll live.

by Fehr and Balanced on Jun 26, 2009 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

that’s a great point. this is a house of cards with any significant injury on the back line

from the house that Red Jesus built

by bigonetimer on Jun 26, 2009 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don’t think anyone is going to take Briere with a long-term expensive contract and his injury history, given the cap is going to be falling soon.

They have a lot of scoring forwards, of whom I presume (although I don’t know for sure) that only Richards and Carter are untouchable among them. I have to figure they could move one or two for a goalie and a pick, or something.

by Knee high to a duck on Jun 26, 2009 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Gagne would look pretty good on the Caps…

by Gould Old Days on Jun 26, 2009 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah he would but he’d basically kill any chance of us bringing in another C.

by Fehr and Balanced on Jun 26, 2009 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Don’t. Start. PHL isn’t trading Simon Gagne to WSH. EVER.

by TylerG on Jun 26, 2009 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was surprised Philly made the trade with us last year.

I think they have learned their lesson.

by Moonage Daydream on Jun 26, 2009 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Was not for a star. Was for a 5-6 D.

by TylerG on Jun 26, 2009 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And we got a potential future 1-2 D out of it.

by bigmac1124 on Jun 26, 2009 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

3 straight years with no 1st rounders, and those long term high dollar contracts to players who will be past their prime (Briere/Timonen) – Flyers are looking at some difficult times in a few years.

by Stormblue on Jun 26, 2009 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Phoenix... rises?

James Mirtle: From The Globe’s Paul Waldie: “Jerry Reinsdorf has made an offer worth roughly $130 million for the Phoenix Coyotes.”

by TylerG on Jun 26, 2009 7:35 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

James Mirtle: “Under Reinsdorf’s offer the NHL would receive $38.5 million and a major Coyotes’ creditor, MSD Capital, would get $79.7 million. Current majority owner Jerry Moyes would get nothing.”

by TylerG on Jun 26, 2009 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Mirtle corrects to say $148 m.

by Stephen Pepper on Jun 26, 2009 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

OK, it’s ON now…

from the house that Red Jesus built

by bigonetimer on Jun 26, 2009 7:38 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

digression – i plan on turning to CSN sometime close to 9 to relive the $4 million goal :)

by kellobellow on Jun 26, 2009 7:41 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

thanks for the reminder… I loved watching Bradley’s two goals last night.

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by boutros23 on Jun 26, 2009 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Something about re-living it on TV, not on YouTube, is worth it.

Capitals Kremlin the second line center of the Caps blogosphere.

by CapitalsKremlin on Jun 26, 2009 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I just saw the replay of Semin’s flutter-puck deflection goal which tied it up in the first… the hockey gods were rocking the red on that one.

by cuqui on Jun 26, 2009 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kee-rist. The lightning is getting nuts in Arlington.

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by boutros23 on Jun 26, 2009 7:43 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

yeah, i just heard the thunder… yikes!

by kellobellow on Jun 26, 2009 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

swear to god, i almost fell off the couch.

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by boutros23 on Jun 26, 2009 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Perry and Sherry, how quaint

by Ames on Jun 26, 2009 7:45 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

btw, Flying Dog Double Pale Ale for me tonight.

by Moonage Daydream on Jun 26, 2009 7:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

captain and coke for me, as usual… and i made buffalo chicken dip :) that combination + hockey = awesome night in the making.

by kellobellow on Jun 26, 2009 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Anything Flying Dog: rec’d

by bigmac1124 on Jun 26, 2009 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ruination IPA over here, the most bitter thing I can find, but it’s so good.

by Knee high to a duck on Jun 26, 2009 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

TSN should ask Don Waddell how he still has a job.

by TylerG on Jun 26, 2009 7:50 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

They wanted to focus on questions he might actually have an answer for.

by Fehr and Balanced on Jun 26, 2009 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It makes me wonder about the owner of the Thrashers. They’re most definitely the real stupidity behind that operation.

by bigmac1124 on Jun 26, 2009 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The ownership of ATL is part of the problem. It is a group of ~ 8 people currently locked in a lawsuit between themselves. It really is not stupidity but an inability to do much of anything because of the lawsuit.

by Moonage Daydream on Jun 26, 2009 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Brian Burke looks p-i-s-s-e-d.

by TylerG on Jun 26, 2009 7:57 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

rightfully so, they really wanted him

by amkcaps on Jun 26, 2009 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

What do you mean rightfully so? LAK had the pick and used it. If Burke really wanted him then pay up and move up. I don’t see where his sense of entitlement comes from (it existed before he went to TOR).

by Fehr and Balanced on Jun 26, 2009 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Haha, sorry for the misunderstanding. I meant he really wanted Schenn, so when he was picked it makes sense that he was pissed. I use “rightfully so” in a strange way; Ive heard it before

by amkcaps on Jun 26, 2009 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes, yes he does. I’ll be interested to see where MPS goes.

by Knee high to a duck on Jun 26, 2009 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Isles moving up from 26 to 16…

from the house that Red Jesus built

by bigonetimer on Jun 26, 2009 8:00 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Maaaaan our pick seems so far away right now. This is going to be like watching paint dry for me.

by bigmac1124 on Jun 26, 2009 8:00 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Dude. This is hockey fan geekdom. It’s riveting!!!!

by TylerG on Jun 26, 2009 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Something—like a trade-CAN happen at any moment-so the riveting part is valid.

by bigmac1124 on Jun 26, 2009 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

CAN happen? It HAS!!!!!

by TylerG on Jun 26, 2009 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Be careful what you wish for, you just might get it.

by bigmac1124 on Jun 26, 2009 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Did you miss the Pronger deal?!

by TylerG on Jun 26, 2009 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’m just talking in terms of DC at this point in the convo. The Pronger deal was pretty interesting just because I’m not sure why they gave up so much for a guy who has one year left on his contract.

by bigmac1124 on Jun 26, 2009 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pronger seems a good fit for the Flyers’, ah, ethos and could re-sign there.

from the house that Red Jesus built

by bigonetimer on Jun 26, 2009 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

They need to extend him to make that deal in any way worth it.

by Fehr and Balanced on Jun 26, 2009 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

How many times is McGuire going to say “The right pick, for the right team.”

by Fehr and Balanced on Jun 26, 2009 8:03 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I’ve picked up a buzz from it.

by Bald Pollack on Jun 26, 2009 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Really? I’ve picked up a buzzing noise in my ears…

by D'ohboy on Jun 26, 2009 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

the drinking helps for sure.

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by boutros23 on Jun 26, 2009 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wish they’d just let McKenzie do all the talking.

by Ames on Jun 26, 2009 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

because he’s 6 for 6 so far.

from the house that Red Jesus built

by bigonetimer on Jun 26, 2009 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Isn’t just about anyone who did their mockdraft?

by Ames on Jun 26, 2009 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

NHLN’s own Craig Button, not so much (2-6).

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by bigonetimer on Jun 26, 2009 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Guess he’s not his father’s son.

by Bald Pollack on Jun 26, 2009 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Surely someone can figure out a drinking game based on his comments.

by Moonage Daydream on Jun 26, 2009 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And a punching-the-TV-screen game too.

by bigmac1124 on Jun 26, 2009 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Burke is about to tell the crowd to F-off!

by Moonage Daydream on Jun 26, 2009 8:10 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Wow. Kinda seems to me that the Leafs just drafted Grabovski 2.0.

by D'ohboy on Jun 26, 2009 8:11 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

I like that call. Interesting.

by TylerG on Jun 26, 2009 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Also really doesn’t seem like a “Brian Burke” sort of player. . .

by D'ohboy on Jun 26, 2009 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

hahahaha… i was just trying to figure out who he reminds me of. thanks!

by kellobellow on Jun 26, 2009 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I see Brian Denehey

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by boutros23 on Jun 26, 2009 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

could he be fronting for the Sens?

from the house that Red Jesus built

by bigonetimer on Jun 26, 2009 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe. Perhaps they’re waiting to see who Ottawa can get with their pick to announce a trade. It would be kinda weird though – why not just trade the pick?

by D'ohboy on Jun 26, 2009 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Please tell me the Caps have packaged Mo and their pick to move up and get Cowen

by Moonage Daydream on Jun 26, 2009 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well there he goes….

by Moonage Daydream on Jun 26, 2009 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You really want another huge long-term project defenseman? With an injury history?

by D'ohboy on Jun 26, 2009 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I really want a big shutdown defenseman to get Crosby out of the crease!

by Moonage Daydream on Jun 26, 2009 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

First, unless you get Hedman you aren’t getting that guy in this draft. Second, Mo and the 24 is not enough to move up to take a top 10 pick, especially if the guy is good enough to come in and keep Crosby out of the crease already. You’re just going to have to be patient and wait on Alzner and Carlson like the rest of us.

by Fehr and Balanced on Jun 26, 2009 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No, I realize that Mo and 24 is not enough to move up to that position, but I can dream.

I am not sure that Alzner will be that physical d-man that I want; Carlson, maybe. I am with you, though, about patience (see my previous comments about Sarge).

by Moonage Daydream on Jun 26, 2009 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don’t know what you mean by physical but the guy that did the best against Crosby all post-season was Lidstrom. He’s not the most “physical” guy on his own team but being solid on your feet and smart enough to always be in position goes a long way.

by Fehr and Balanced on Jun 26, 2009 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No doubt that I agree with you that (hopefully) Alzner is a positional type defenseman in the mold of Lidstrom. And I also agree that there is great value in that type defenseman.

My only point is that I would also like a big d-man with a mean streak (think Stevens and Pronger) that will physically challenge Crosby/Hartnell/others when they get near the net. I think Cowen could be that guy in a few years.

No need to argue the effectiveness of one vs. the other. I would like both types of d-men on the Caps.

by Moonage Daydream on Jun 26, 2009 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Right. ‘Cause the Caps don’t have 4 and 23?

by TylerG on Jun 26, 2009 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Are you comparing Erskine and Juice to Stevens and Pronger?

by Moonage Daydream on Jun 26, 2009 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Are you comparing Erskine and Juice to Stevens and Pronger?

That was sarcasm.

My only point is that Crosby did too much in front of the Caps’ net during the playoffs, and I think Cowen is the type of player that will prevent players from having so much freedom in front of the net.

by Moonage Daydream on Jun 26, 2009 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

New rules don’t allow that. Positional play is the key now.

by TylerG on Jun 26, 2009 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Did Philly just give up the farm to bring in Pronger for “positional play?”

by Direction 87 on Jun 26, 2009 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pronger is nowhere NEAR the beater in front that he was before the rules changed. Not even close. Pronger is a stud D because he is a threat in all three zones, makes the best outlet pass in the NHL, and is tough everywhere. NOT because he clears guys out.

by TylerG on Jun 26, 2009 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It doesn’t matter why they did it, they still gave up a ton. And while everyone talks about Pronger’s physicality (because he’s dirty) it’s only his positional play that allows him to play like that. He is where the puck is going first and when you get there you get mauled. Lidstrom and Timmonen just get there and move the puck before you can do anything. It’s just a different style but the positional play is the key.

by Fehr and Balanced on Jun 26, 2009 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pronger is going to spend a lot of time making sure Crosby pays the price for hanging out around the crease (something we didnt do during the playoffs)…if that’s “positional” play, so be it.

by Direction 87 on Jun 26, 2009 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The new rules do not completely remove the physical part of hockey.

by Moonage Daydream on Jun 26, 2009 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I didn’t say that they did. This is silly.

by TylerG on Jun 26, 2009 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Comment from my wife on Ryan Ellis:

“Retin-a micro baby!”

by Bald Pollack on Jun 26, 2009 8:26 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I thought the same

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by boutros23 on Jun 26, 2009 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He’s a hockey player not a model. Who cares.

by TylerG on Jun 26, 2009 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Line of the night from Bryan Murray there, on the Heatley situation

“Are you going to have to reduce your expectations?”

“No, we’re probably going to have Danny Heatley play left wing for our hockey team if nothing works out.”

by Gould Old Days on Jun 26, 2009 8:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Agreed. And the right approach, especially because DanyBoy is douchily asking for a deal… but only to certain teams.

by TylerG on Jun 26, 2009 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Exactly, and Heatley is going to have to suck it up. It’s bad for both, but what else can happen? unless someone is silly enough to give up the cash for him.

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by boutros23 on Jun 26, 2009 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed on the douchi-ness, but that’s Ottawa’s fault for giving him a no-trade clause.

by D'ohboy on Jun 26, 2009 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Seems like the Oilers are quietly building a talented forward corps.

by Bald Pollack on Jun 26, 2009 8:40 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

digression again – for a good time, flip to comcast in about one minute ;)

by kellobellow on Jun 26, 2009 8:41 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I’m there now. just waiting for the amazing…

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by boutros23 on Jun 26, 2009 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

is it sad that i’m giddy? hahaha :)

by kellobellow on Jun 26, 2009 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

was there that night, and will never ever forget it.

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by boutros23 on Jun 26, 2009 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

me too… words can’t describe it. amazing. oh feds :)

by kellobellow on Jun 26, 2009 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

still makes me a little teary

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by boutros23 on Jun 26, 2009 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

but it will also make me sad, and I did bid on a Fed figure on eBay today…

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by boutros23 on Jun 26, 2009 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nice pick from the Poile.

by Bald Pollack on Jun 26, 2009 8:47 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Great stat

No Americans were taken in the top ten this year. According to TSN Researcher Kevin Gibson, the last time an American born player didn’t go in the top 10 was 1993.

by TylerG on Jun 26, 2009 8:51 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

The NYI could have stayed at 16 and gotten de Haan!

by TylerG on Jun 26, 2009 8:54 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah that doesn’t make much sense. What did they give up to move up?

by Fehr and Balanced on Jun 26, 2009 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Minnesota #Wild trade pick #12 to New York #Islander for picks #16 #77 #182.

Capitals Kremlin the second line center of the Caps blogosphere.

by CapitalsKremlin on Jun 26, 2009 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No. 16, a third and a something else?

by TylerG on Jun 26, 2009 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Looks like a 2 and a 6th round?

by Bald Pollack on Jun 26, 2009 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Isles essentially burn five picks to select De Haan.

by Stephen Pepper on Jun 26, 2009 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

So last year they trade back and stockpile picks for no reason… and this year they just burn them?

by Fehr and Balanced on Jun 26, 2009 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

They had an outside shot at getting him at 26.

by Bald Pollack on Jun 26, 2009 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I love how McGuire was gushing about how “smart” their decision was. . . right before they picked de Haan.

by D'ohboy on Jun 26, 2009 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He’s a tool. I wish one of our hated enemy’s hires him to be GM. Two birds…

by Hunky Dory on Jun 26, 2009 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Geez, when they were talking about hiring him in Colorado, I was about to give up on that franchise.

by D'ohboy on Jun 26, 2009 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe the Isles guy got picked, and Snow got nervous about it happening again, so he moved up just to be sure. One layup, and then… How many picks do they have left, now? Are they in the minus yet?

by Hunky Dory on Jun 26, 2009 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I see where you’re coming from, but from the Isles’ perspective, that’s still pretty dumb. One should never draft out of fear or hope – it leads to bad decisions.

by D'ohboy on Jun 26, 2009 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Draft picks, 77 and I think 16 or 20 something, it was a first rounder.

Capitals Kremlin the second line center of the Caps blogosphere.

by CapitalsKremlin on Jun 26, 2009 8:55 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Landon Ferraro being interviewed – my friend’s already calling him “Chicken Marsala.”

Crazy suit, dude.

by Stephen Pepper on Jun 26, 2009 9:03 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Tarik just posted:

Anyway, I wanted to catch everyone up on what I’ve observed at the Caps’ table. GM George McPhee has been on the phone. A lot. What I found more interesting, though, was his 10-minute long conversation with Boston GM Peter Chiarelli. That conversation was followed by Coach Bruce Boudreau talking to his Bruins’ counterpart, Claude Julien, for about 10 minutes.

Of course, the Caps’ and Bruins’ tables are right next to each other. But they were saying more than just, “Hello.”

by cuqui on Jun 26, 2009 9:03 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

More likely. Kessel pushes one of the other young guns out of the picture. Thanks for joining us.

by Fehr and Balanced on Jun 26, 2009 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Internet troubles….thank goodness for neighbors with unsecured connections

by David M. Getz on Jun 26, 2009 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nah, I just moved and we’re having trouble getting the internet set up

by David M. Getz on Jun 26, 2009 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Either way, it is a little odd that two of the top three EC teams are talking trade

by Moonage Daydream on Jun 26, 2009 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Also from Tarik:

[T]he Caps ought to be drafting sometime around 11. Ugh. That’s putting a serious crimp in my post-draft plans.

Seems like he’s itching to get to the strip clubs on Rue St. Catherine? :)

by Stephen Pepper on Jun 26, 2009 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why does TEB think anyone cares about his post-draft (or travel) plans?!

by TylerG on Jun 26, 2009 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think the Panthers just got a steal – if they can sign him.

by D'ohboy on Jun 26, 2009 9:10 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Even if they have to wait a year it’s a steal.

by TylerG on Jun 26, 2009 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was kinda hoping the KHL issue would let him slip to us. Yes, he’s at a position we’re stacked at – so what. We could then trade someone for another piece we need. I think on pure talent, he should have gone in the top-10.

by D'ohboy on Jun 26, 2009 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

In the range...

We’re entering the part of the draft where if the Caps really love someone that they can move up to get him for a fairly reasonable cost.

by TylerG on Jun 26, 2009 9:13 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

That’s what I was thinking. And the further some of the highly touted guys fall the better the chances are that we get within range of a guy we want.

by Fehr and Balanced on Jun 26, 2009 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ditto, I was just thinking the same thing. I wonder whom is remaining that the Caps love???

by Moonage Daydream on Jun 26, 2009 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

GMGM is superb at playing his cards close and at bluffing. Remember Backie, AGus, etc…..

by TylerG on Jun 26, 2009 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Don’t jinx it!

by Fehr and Balanced on Jun 26, 2009 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sweet.

More slot-jumpers equals more guys falling to us.

by D'ohboy on Jun 26, 2009 9:17 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

In a post earlier today

I ID’d guys I thought would/should interest the Caps. They’re all still on the board.

by TylerG on Jun 26, 2009 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Of they guys left, who would you want the most?

by D'ohboy on Jun 26, 2009 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’m not saying but Tyler is on to it.

by Fehr and Balanced on Jun 26, 2009 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’ve never seen any of them, so I don’t know. Most of the guys I named are big bodies who go to the net, get into the corners, etc. I’m a relative dilettante on this, sorry. :-P

by TylerG on Jun 26, 2009 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yup. And I question anyone that goes into the draft with their “intensity/drive/desire” as their knock.

by Fehr and Balanced on Jun 26, 2009 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think the Rags are drafting Mike Danton to get Gomez and Redden off the books.

by Fehr and Balanced on Jun 26, 2009 9:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

They could just acquire Heatly in trade and have them go for a ride together. . .

. . . too soon?

by D'ohboy on Jun 26, 2009 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah that is the alternative.

by Fehr and Balanced on Jun 26, 2009 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

11 of first 15 picks have been Canadian.

Somewhere in Canada there is a guy in an ugly suit giving the draft a big thumbs up!

http://jbwarehouse.blogspot.com/Cherry.jpg

by Moonage Daydream on Jun 26, 2009 9:21 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

That little tree thing next to the link icon is your friend.

by Bald Pollack on Jun 26, 2009 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

11 of first 15 picks have been Canadian.

Sorry, I meant to quote it.

by Moonage Daydream on Jun 26, 2009 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No worries brother. I can’t be mad at anyone who has Paul’s Boutique as an av.

by Bald Pollack on Jun 26, 2009 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Easily one of the greatest albums ever. You are the first one to pick up on the av.

by Moonage Daydream on Jun 26, 2009 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Definitely top 5…no doubt about it.

by Yoshietree on Jun 26, 2009 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow, way off the board.

by Fehr and Balanced on Jun 26, 2009 9:22 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

ISS 21. Not too far.

by TylerG on Jun 26, 2009 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bob McKenzie has him 29th. I usually go by his analysis.

by Fehr and Balanced on Jun 26, 2009 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

With every pick, we get closer to grabbing something decent. Thanks, Isles and Wild!!!

by D'ohboy on Jun 26, 2009 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That Mr. Hockey list is rather uninspiring.

by superjuan on Jun 26, 2009 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don’t think he is a stretch. I have been hearing his name projected as a first rounder for at least a month. Of course, it was always tied to the Wild.

by Moonage Daydream on Jun 26, 2009 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hockey players seem to really hot sisters

and a few MILF’s too

Your favorite meme is dead

by Edanger6 on Jun 26, 2009 9:23 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Fun game:

Sister, girlfriend, or MILF?

by D'ohboy on Jun 26, 2009 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

As you drink more, the guesses get wilder.

by Bald Pollack on Jun 26, 2009 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

SISTERMILF!!!!

by D'ohboy on Jun 26, 2009 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Does it really matter?

by Moonage Daydream on Jun 26, 2009 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not unless the sister is underage. Otherwise, it’s just a fun guessing game.

by D'ohboy on Jun 26, 2009 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lettermen is unfazed by age.

by Moonage Daydream on Jun 26, 2009 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

to have

Your favorite meme is dead

by Edanger6 on Jun 26, 2009 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

man this draft is slower than the NFL’s…..

by RedskinFan4Life on Jun 26, 2009 9:27 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Any guesses who plays in the Gold Medal game in the next WJC?

by Fehr and Balanced on Jun 26, 2009 9:28 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Canada-Sweden. I mean, look at who’s getting drafted…..

by TylerG on Jun 26, 2009 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Exactly. (Not to mention they were the gold medal game 2 years running.)

by Fehr and Balanced on Jun 26, 2009 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Belarus and Norway

by CapsFanSince1979 on Jun 26, 2009 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Zimbabwe and Bangladesh!!!

by D'ohboy on Jun 26, 2009 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Damn, forgot about Zimbabwe…they have been improving. Especially with that super stud ManHuice Bambwa

by CapsFanSince1979 on Jun 26, 2009 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I didn’t know cricket had a world juniors too.

by superjuan on Jun 26, 2009 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Russia and Finland -- they’ll be the only ones who have anyone left

by RedskinFan4Life on Jun 26, 2009 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Looking good...

I love this. Moore, Josefson, Leblanc, Kreider and Ashton…one will be available for us and I like them. Guys I figured we would be picking from are going.

by CapsFanSince1979 on Jun 26, 2009 9:29 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Canadiens love American born D. John Moore goes right here.

by Fehr and Balanced on Jun 26, 2009 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree…but Louis Leblanc is another good option. From Quebec and also well educated, which Gainey will like.

by CapsFanSince1979 on Jun 26, 2009 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

True. Can’t underestimate the French element.

by Fehr and Balanced on Jun 26, 2009 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dumb pick. Heart, not head. Dumb.

by D'ohboy on Jun 26, 2009 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No pressure on that kid.

by cuqui on Jun 26, 2009 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

hey, anything that helps the Caps….

by RedskinFan4Life on Jun 26, 2009 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You mean like trading up and drafted a kid who was banged up all year just because his dad used to wear your same sweater?

by Fehr and Balanced on Jun 26, 2009 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Are there any more Kostitsyn brothers?

by TylerG on Jun 26, 2009 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fredo Kostitsyn is another year away from being eligible.

by Bald Pollack on Jun 26, 2009 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Um, Tom Petty is their half brother…

by JSchon on Jun 26, 2009 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

New drinking element

Drink with every Swede pun.

by DebCapsFan on Jun 26, 2009 9:30 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I hope this does not turn out to be the highlight of his hockey career.

by Moonage Daydream on Jun 26, 2009 9:36 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

His mom looks like a brainy MILF. She could teach me piano anytime.

by D'ohboy on Jun 26, 2009 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I suspect that she could teach us alot of things

by Moonage Daydream on Jun 26, 2009 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’d better on Josefson

by David M. Getz on Jun 26, 2009 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I would be upset…I want Josefson for the Caps

by CapsFanSince1979 on Jun 26, 2009 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wouldn’t mind that myself, but I wouldn’t bet on it either.

by David M. Getz on Jun 26, 2009 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Josefson is 6-0, 187. I’d like to see the Caps go a little bigger, given PIT, etc.

by TylerG on Jun 26, 2009 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

but I am hoping that Schroeder is taken off the board….I do not want him

by CapsFanSince1979 on Jun 26, 2009 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

he’s dropped like a rock, rated as high as 11. Why?

from the house that Red Jesus built

by bigonetimer on Jun 26, 2009 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Small. Probably worried that his performance in the WJC was a flash-in-the-pan.

by D'ohboy on Jun 26, 2009 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not for nothing, but where were all you people an hour ago?

by Bald Pollack on Jun 26, 2009 9:41 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

playing games….this draft is longer than the NFL’s. thought the Caps be drafting in the next two mins…..

by RedskinFan4Life on Jun 26, 2009 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes, but it only feels half as long because there’s no Chris Berman

by David M. Getz on Jun 26, 2009 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Berman is a buffoon

by JSchon on Jun 26, 2009 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That’s being very charitable

by David M. Getz on Jun 26, 2009 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He. Could. Go. All. The. Way.

by Yoshietree on Jun 26, 2009 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Waiting for #24… looks like I got here about a half hour early.

by superjuan on Jun 26, 2009 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bob Gainey just said a few big centers were available. GMGM could probably say same. We hope.

by TylerG on Jun 26, 2009 9:41 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

that.

I want to know more about convo with Chiarelli.

from the house that Red Jesus built

by bigonetimer on Jun 26, 2009 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

So in 20 minutes, do we lose TV coverage?

by Moonage Daydream on Jun 26, 2009 9:42 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Not even Versus… (OMG. Yes, Versus…)

by TylerG on Jun 26, 2009 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That’s a crock that the Rangers got a pick for Cheraponov. I wonder if Vancouver got a pick for the loss of that defenseman.

by CapsFanSince1979 on Jun 26, 2009 9:44 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

No, they signed him first.

by Fehr and Balanced on Jun 26, 2009 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It’s not a crock, it’s the CBA. Bourdon was signed. No pick.

by David M. Getz on Jun 26, 2009 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I thought the Rags did not get anything???

by Moonage Daydream on Jun 26, 2009 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kreider was the first guy I thought the Caps would be interested in.

by TylerG on Jun 26, 2009 9:44 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

interesting - his fav player is Ovechkin….

by RedskinFan4Life on Jun 26, 2009 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Interesting because?

by TylerG on Jun 26, 2009 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

that he’d have an outside chance playing for the Caps….. ‘course that’s mute now since he’s been picked….

by RedskinFan4Life on Jun 26, 2009 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wouldn’t have minded that kid.

by Fehr and Balanced on Jun 26, 2009 9:44 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Kreider has a nice long stride

by CapsFanSince1979 on Jun 26, 2009 9:45 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

that’s not all -- 6’2 and 201 lbs….nice size…better than Schroeder.

by RedskinFan4Life on Jun 26, 2009 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I am so scared we are going to get Schroeder.

by CapsFanSince1979 on Jun 26, 2009 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good players are scary.

by David M. Getz on Jun 26, 2009 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Schroeder reminds me of Parise. Everyone knows he’s good, but everyone’s afraid to pick him because of his size.

by David M. Getz on Jun 26, 2009 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

NCAA hockey player so there are fewer games to watch. They just can’t believe he can be that affective at that size.

by Fehr and Balanced on Jun 26, 2009 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Then he’s picked roughly where people thought he could have gone?

by Bald Pollack on Jun 26, 2009 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Budish is the guy I want. But that’s just off of what I read. I emphasize I don’t know jack about any of these kids.

by TylerG on Jun 26, 2009 9:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I like him, but not in the first. Maybe if you trade down

by CapsFanSince1979 on Jun 26, 2009 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

All the buzz from the Real Draft Gurus has been that Budish is moving up — fast.

by TylerG on Jun 26, 2009 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If you don’t see a guy play you can’t see his flaws?

by David M. Getz on Jun 26, 2009 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

At this point there are several guys I’d be happy with that are left and not enough picks that they can all be taken before we pick so I should be happy.

by Fehr and Balanced on Jun 26, 2009 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’m diggin Budish, Josefson and O’Reilly. You?

by David M. Getz on Jun 26, 2009 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Budish and:

11-20 on TSN: Carter Ashton

21-30 on TSN: Jordan Caron, Ryan O’Reilly

31-40 on TSN: Jeremy Morin, Joonas Nattinen

by TylerG on Jun 26, 2009 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I like Nattinen too. There are several Swedes I like in this draft.

by Fehr and Balanced on Jun 26, 2009 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’m with you, I’ve sung Josefson’s prasies for some time but you really turned me onto O’Reilly.

Capitals Kremlin the second line center of the Caps blogosphere.

by CapitalsKremlin on Jun 26, 2009 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Those 3 plus Ashton and Shore. I’d also take Moore given the chance but haven’t though much about D.

by Fehr and Balanced on Jun 26, 2009 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’m fine with those, I’m also lighting a candle for Klingberg.

by Bald Pollack on Jun 26, 2009 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Or Schroeder. They took Parise.

by Fehr and Balanced on Jun 26, 2009 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’m thinking Schroeder

by David M. Getz on Jun 26, 2009 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Probably right…but was Anaheim going to take him

by CapsFanSince1979 on Jun 26, 2009 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

can’t wait for this one

from the house that Red Jesus built

by bigonetimer on Jun 26, 2009 9:52 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Paradis maybe?

by RedskinFan4Life on Jun 26, 2009 9:52 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yup. I wanted him the most.

by Fehr and Balanced on Jun 26, 2009 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Too small, too small….

by TylerG on Jun 26, 2009 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You’re wrong. But this argument won’t be settled for years.

by Fehr and Balanced on Jun 26, 2009 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not too small for the NHL. Too small for elite Eastern Conference teams, I think.

by TylerG on Jun 26, 2009 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

NJD has designs on being one of those teams. You’ll get to see what he can do against the PIT boys plenty. Time will tell.

by Fehr and Balanced on Jun 26, 2009 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

ahhh too good to be true

by RedskinFan4Life on Jun 26, 2009 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Even the fella at the Duck’s table looked disappointed.

by superjuan on Jun 26, 2009 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Let’s act like we did’nt want him anyway…;)

Capitals Kremlin the second line center of the Caps blogosphere.

by CapitalsKremlin on Jun 26, 2009 9:55 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

yeah, wat a loser

by RedskinFan4Life on Jun 26, 2009 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Moore to Anaheim?

by David M. Getz on Jun 26, 2009 9:56 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Sbisa’s the same kind of player, no?

by TylerG on Jun 26, 2009 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, so much for my guess…

by David M. Getz on Jun 26, 2009 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Those lava lamps-lite at the NHL draft tables are, uh, lame.

by TylerG on Jun 26, 2009 9:56 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I see charity auction written all over them.

Capitals Kremlin the second line center of the Caps blogosphere.

by CapitalsKremlin on Jun 26, 2009 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

They will be auctioned on nhl.com after the draft

by CapsFanSince1979 on Jun 26, 2009 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

lots of defense slated in here, including Moore, Despres

from the house that Red Jesus built

by bigonetimer on Jun 26, 2009 9:57 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Columbus and Vancouver could use them.

by Bald Pollack on Jun 26, 2009 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I could see GMGM doing this too. Trading down to get 2 picks in the next 30 because of the depth of this part of the draft.

by Fehr and Balanced on Jun 26, 2009 9:58 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Not sure he will do that this year….fitting into the 50 man roster is getting a little tight. Just like I think he would favor a player that does not have to be signed for 3 years (ie. NCAA or Europe)

by CapsFanSince1979 on Jun 26, 2009 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was looking at this earlier today. I think that we’re talking about late-one/early-two guys. You don’t have to sign these guys soonest, ergo…

by TylerG on Jun 26, 2009 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nah, I think GMGM goes best player, period

by David M. Getz on Jun 26, 2009 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hey… I have no problem dropping 6 spots for a #37…

by superjuan on Jun 26, 2009 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Columbus goes for Moore.

by D'ohboy on Jun 26, 2009 9:58 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

cha ching

from the house that Red Jesus built

by bigonetimer on Jun 26, 2009 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i know….draft John Moore - trade him for Josefson?

by RedskinFan4Life on Jun 26, 2009 9:58 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Nah. They need defensemen.

by D'ohboy on Jun 26, 2009 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

NJ has Josefson….

by RedskinFan4Life on Jun 26, 2009 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I thought you were suggesting that the BJs and Jersey trade Moore for Josefson. I was confused…

by D'ohboy on Jun 26, 2009 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

my bad……thats what I get for not having live TV am following this along on nhl.com. it just updated ANA and CBJ trade and subsequent pick.

if you know a faster updating website, i’d love to know it

by RedskinFan4Life on Jun 26, 2009 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

RT @JapersRink-ish: Pierre McGuire loves everything everyone is doing. I mean….

by TylerG on Jun 26, 2009 10:00 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Man, all those guys I thought that one would make Washington are almost all gone. Just Ashton left

by CapsFanSince1979 on Jun 26, 2009 10:01 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I would not be surprised to see Ashton or Ferraro go to Vancouver

by CapsFanSince1979 on Jun 26, 2009 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Des Pres, they’re going to need a puck moving D soon.

by Bald Pollack on Jun 26, 2009 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Has McGuire blasted anyone for their pick??? Where is the Kiper vehemence for a stupid pick?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZxNeFLuY98

by Moonage Daydream on Jun 26, 2009 10:02 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

The closest was with the Isles pick of de Haan.

by D'ohboy on Jun 26, 2009 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why do I get the feeling we’re going to end up with Ferraro…?

by D'ohboy on Jun 26, 2009 10:03 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Is he gonna get past CGY?!

by TylerG on Jun 26, 2009 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’m betting on Calgary’s desire for bigger guys.

by D'ohboy on Jun 26, 2009 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It’ll be Ashton or Ferraro, unless Vancouver does something strange.

by Bald Pollack on Jun 26, 2009 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I have had that feeling since the fifth pick

by Moonage Daydream on Jun 26, 2009 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hey, good on Versus sticking with the draft (so far).

by cuqui on Jun 26, 2009 10:04 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Agreed. But… how fucking lame is it that we feel compelled to applaud Versus for doing something so obvious?! (Sigh.)

by TylerG on Jun 26, 2009 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Reminder

WSH is three picks away.

by TylerG on Jun 26, 2009 10:04 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Man, Video Prof just saps all the excitement out of the night

by Moonage Daydream on Jun 26, 2009 10:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Screw it.

I’m hoping on the Schroeder Bandwagon of one.

by superjuan on Jun 26, 2009 10:07 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Hoping and hopping, I’m sure.

by Moonage Daydream on Jun 26, 2009 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’m an Alexandre Dumas.

by superjuan on Jun 26, 2009 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’m there if Budish is gone

by David M. Getz on Jun 26, 2009 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Me too, but I’m not a size queen. I’ll always take skill.

by Fehr and Balanced on Jun 26, 2009 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Vancouver

please take Schroeder…though you probably take Ashton or Ferraro

by CapsFanSince1979 on Jun 26, 2009 10:08 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I don’t understand not wanting Schroeder

by David M. Getz on Jun 26, 2009 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not a fan of 5’8" players…at least with first round picks.

by CapsFanSince1979 on Jun 26, 2009 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That’s an awfully big bias to have based on just one factor, especially given that Schroeder is stronger than a lot of these guys

by David M. Getz on Jun 26, 2009 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow… Luongo sure looked happy about that pick.

by superjuan on Jun 26, 2009 10:09 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Looked nervous to me!

by TylerG on Jun 26, 2009 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I didn’t expect him to say Minniesooooota the way he did.

by thehoagster07 on Jun 26, 2009 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I still think Calgary will take

Carter Ashton (who I want for the Caps as #1 on my list – now the others are gone)

by CapsFanSince1979 on Jun 26, 2009 10:10 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

CGY is a big western team, love western guys… Gotta be BabyRay.

by TylerG on Jun 26, 2009 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think Calgary prefers Ashton’s size

by CapsFanSince1979 on Jun 26, 2009 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Based on what information?

by TylerG on Jun 26, 2009 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ashton is too much of question to me, with the one big year and all

by David M. Getz on Jun 26, 2009 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree. Concerns me too. The kind of guy you take if you’ve got two picks in ten slots. A slight risk.

by TylerG on Jun 26, 2009 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

but you like Budish who has really not played against good competition for even one year

by CapsFanSince1979 on Jun 26, 2009 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I like his body and the reports on his hands.

by TylerG on Jun 26, 2009 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

So, WSH is 2 away...

I’m feeling trade down a few spots. If GMGM can, I bet he will. I think there may be 10 guys the Caps probably like here and that they can move down and get two of them….

by TylerG on Jun 26, 2009 10:10 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I was looking but there aren’t a lot of teams that have two picks in that area that may want to move up.

by Fehr and Balanced on Jun 26, 2009 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

wow

Mike Gillis toupee?

by TylerG on Jun 26, 2009 10:12 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Caps are going to take either Ferraro or Ashton

by CapsFanSince1979 on Jun 26, 2009 10:12 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Based on what information?

by TylerG on Jun 26, 2009 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I have no info…just gut feel

by CapsFanSince1979 on Jun 26, 2009 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Then don’t say ‘they are’ say you think they are. Otherwise we think you’ve read something somewhere that might be int’g to the rest of us.

by TylerG on Jun 26, 2009 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I didn’t think that at all. I’m guessing most other people didn’t either.

by Cluster on Jun 26, 2009 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Wow, that one surprises me. The grinding Canadian brothers take a swede

by CapsFanSince1979 on Jun 26, 2009 10:14 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Caps on the clock!

Well, we know nothing but bodies and stats. So here goes nothing…..

by TylerG on Jun 26, 2009 10:14 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Take Len Barrie’s kid!!!!!!!1111one

by David M. Getz on Jun 26, 2009 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Watch Versus decided to go to boxing now…

by superjuan on Jun 26, 2009 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Caps picking after a Canadian team. TSN may not even show the pick! ;-)

by TylerG on Jun 26, 2009 10:16 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

And after the last Canadian team to pick. I was wondering for a bit if they were going to show the pick too. :)

"It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees." - Delores Ibarruri

by gotsparkly on Jun 27, 2009 5:31 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I just stood for no reason at all

from the house that Red Jesus built

by bigonetimer on Jun 26, 2009 10:16 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

@cmasisak: GMGM talking to Boston again.

by TylerG on Jun 26, 2009 10:17 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

let me know as soon as you hear/see it !!!!! i have no tv here

by RedskinFan4Life on Jun 26, 2009 10:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

McPhee just stood

by Gould Old Days on Jun 26, 2009 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

GMGM headed to the podium..

by superjuan on Jun 26, 2009 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Unrelated, but P.S. on Pronger from Dreger: “whispers on the draft floor Pronger will be asking for a 5 year extension at 6 mil or better.”

by Bald Pollack on Jun 26, 2009 10:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

@cmasisak22: Looks like a deal is in the works

by TylerG on Jun 26, 2009 10:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

TSN giving GMGM props.

by cuqui on Jun 26, 2009 10:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

And Pierre still comes off like an idiot.

by Fehr and Balanced on Jun 26, 2009 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

How goddamn ignorant can McGuire be??? For FUCKS SAKE – do some goddamn research!

by D'ohboy on Jun 26, 2009 10:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

McPhee to the podium. He’s going to pick

by Gould Old Days on Jun 26, 2009 10:20 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Pull out the old Calle jerseys!

by superjuan on Jun 26, 2009 10:20 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

GMGM was all business.

Capitals Kremlin the second line center of the Caps blogosphere.

by CapitalsKremlin on Jun 26, 2009 10:20 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

yeah, no fanfare. no parade to the podium.

phht

from the house that Red Jesus built

by bigonetimer on Jun 26, 2009 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good! The draft was taking long enough as it was.

"It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees." - Delores Ibarruri

by gotsparkly on Jun 27, 2009 5:30 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

From ISS

International Scouting Services: Playmaking forward with great game sense and vision with the puck. Johansson has been an effective and consistent offensive threat for Sweden at both the U18 and U20 levels for the past couple of seasons. A shifty and technically skilled skater, Johansson has great hands and an excellent touch on the puck. Another young Swede with men’s league experience, he proved that he can be an effective point producer at the next level already, putting up 10 points in 45 games for Farjestad in the Swedish Elite League.

by TylerG on Jun 26, 2009 10:20 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

33 for McKenzie as well. Didn’t see that coming.

by Fehr and Balanced on Jun 26, 2009 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Three Swedish centers in 4 years.

by D'ohboy on Jun 26, 2009 10:20 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

McPhee loves going off the board

by David M. Getz on Jun 26, 2009 10:21 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

They could have traded down and gotten him, right? Hmmm. 5-11, 189.

by TylerG on Jun 26, 2009 10:22 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Has a shot he should use more often.

Sound like any other Swedes that we know?

by Moonage Daydream on Jun 26, 2009 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Concussions.

Not a word I want to hear associated with their pick

by Moonage Daydream on Jun 26, 2009 10:22 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

where do you see that?

by RedskinFan4Life on Jun 26, 2009 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

They said it on Vs

by Moonage Daydream on Jun 26, 2009 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

reading his profile on NHL.com nothing about a concussion anywhere

by RedskinFan4Life on Jun 26, 2009 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

VS said that he had a few concussions when he was younger but was healthy for the last year.

by Fehr and Balanced on Jun 26, 2009 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I find anything those guys say to be ambiguous at best.

I'm so sick and tired of the refs explaining the calls like this is the NFL.

by Whiter Mage on Jun 26, 2009 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’m not crazy about this. I like O’Reilly, I like Budish, I even like Ashton okay….but….I dunno about this one.

by David M. Getz on Jun 26, 2009 10:22 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

ISS had him ranked 93rd.

by superjuan on Jun 26, 2009 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

could turn into 6/200 by x-mas, I suppose….

/ducks

from the house that Red Jesus built

by bigonetimer on Jun 26, 2009 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Capitals exaggerate guys heights and weights as much as any team in the league

by David M. Getz on Jun 26, 2009 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

hey he’s bigger than Schroeder

by RedskinFan4Life on Jun 26, 2009 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

But probably not stronger

by David M. Getz on Jun 26, 2009 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why do you say that? He played with men for the last year, Schroeder did not. I’m sure he’s pretty strong.

by Fehr and Balanced on Jun 26, 2009 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Schroeder was one of the stronger players in the combine tests, iirc

by David M. Getz on Jun 26, 2009 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don’t know, I just like that Johansson played with men. He has enough hockey strength to do that so I’m cool.

by Fehr and Balanced on Jun 26, 2009 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Flash played with men last year

by Moonage Daydream on Jun 26, 2009 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

He also had pneumonia, in case you missed that little tidbit.

"It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees." - Delores Ibarruri

by gotsparkly on Jun 27, 2009 5:29 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes, but the pneumonia hit him in the middle of the season, not at the start. Flash’s strength has always been lacking

by Moonage Daydream on Jun 27, 2009 8:39 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Flash was on pace for 25+ until that illness hit him in the face, and then he looked like the old Flash from last year.

"It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees." - Delores Ibarruri

by gotsparkly on Jun 28, 2009 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not so sure about this pick….

by radhghlndr on Jun 26, 2009 10:23 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

they can’t call us a Russian team anymore now we’re a Swede team

by RedskinFan4Life on Jun 26, 2009 10:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Pretty Swede, if they pan out like Backstrom did.

"It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees." - Delores Ibarruri

by gotsparkly on Jun 27, 2009 5:26 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I really hope they know what they’re doing here, because this guy is pretty far off the board. I hope this isn’t another Gustafsson situation.

by D'ohboy on Jun 26, 2009 10:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Might even be a statement about Gustafsson’s progress, who knows.

by Bald Pollack on Jun 26, 2009 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The good thing about Johansson is that he’s playing in the Elite League, not in the junior league like Gus.

by D'ohboy on Jun 26, 2009 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I still don’t mind Gus. Really. He may be developing better than we thought. If they wanted a center to step in right away, they wouldn’t have taken this kid.

I'm so sick and tired of the refs explaining the calls like this is the NFL.

by Whiter Mage on Jun 26, 2009 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’m sure they want a center to step in right away, but that’s not going to happen at 24

by David M. Getz on Jun 26, 2009 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No, but you have to think a guy like Ferraro is closer than a guy like Johannson.

I'm so sick and tired of the refs explaining the calls like this is the NFL.

by Whiter Mage on Jun 26, 2009 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ferraro is a W and wasn’t going to step in right away anyway.

by Fehr and Balanced on Jun 26, 2009 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Winger or not, if they wanted a center sooner, there were some on the table.

I'm so sick and tired of the refs explaining the calls like this is the NFL.

by Whiter Mage on Jun 26, 2009 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not sure that was worth 3 1/2 hours of our time

by Direction 87 on Jun 26, 2009 10:25 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

ok i’ll be heading off now no picks for a while now. i’ll catch up tomorrow

by RedskinFan4Life on Jun 26, 2009 10:25 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I thought we needed some grit…

by radhghlndr on Jun 26, 2009 10:26 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Caps could package picks and move up….

by TylerG on Jun 26, 2009 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You don’t draft for need at 24

by David M. Getz on Jun 26, 2009 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Given that center is the Caps’ greatest need, do you believe that they followed your mantra?

by Moonage Daydream on Jun 26, 2009 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes. Their pick is two years away at a bare minimum and they’re not drafting a player for 2012 based on their 2009 needs.

by David M. Getz on Jun 26, 2009 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pretty much any pick they made is 3 years away. It would not be a stretch to think that their need in 2012 will be center. You have to think that they will be strong at G and D.

I do not disagree with you, I just think it is valid to ask if they are drafting for need.

by Moonage Daydream on Jun 26, 2009 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No doubt they could have a need at center in 2012 but Gus and Perreault could pan out and Steckel and Gordon could still be here – it’s awfully had to know. I just think with the depth the Caps have and where they’re picking they’re picking based on who they think is best overall

by David M. Getz on Jun 26, 2009 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Actually, I’m fine with not getting “grit” in the first round. I would have liked someone with size and skill, but if that wasn’t available, or the guy wasn’t skilled enough, I’d rather have the better player. Grit is always available in the lower rounds.

by D'ohboy on Jun 26, 2009 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

what if you’re picking people from the lower rounds in the 1st round?

by Hunky Dory on Jun 26, 2009 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, that’s always a concern. But most people didn’t have Carlson in the first round, either.

by D'ohboy on Jun 26, 2009 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Most of the drafts I saw had Carlson in the top 30

by David M. Getz on Jun 26, 2009 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think most had him in the very late 20s, or early 30s. I don’t trust TSN’s ratings either – I think they take way too much away from European players. From the looks of it, the NHL GMs don’t trust them either.

I'm so sick and tired of the refs explaining the calls like this is the NFL.

by Whiter Mage on Jun 26, 2009 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Grit that makes it to the NHL?

by David M. Getz on Jun 26, 2009 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah. I think that drafting a “grit” player in the first is silly. My poster child for this is Brandon Sutter. He projected as a third-liner. Why draft that in the 1st round?

by D'ohboy on Jun 26, 2009 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, we know nothing but bodies and stats.

I will keep telling myself this as I scrutinize this pick.

by Moonage Daydream on Jun 26, 2009 10:27 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Line of the night

In response to my complaints about 5-11, 189, my STHmate: 5-11, 189 not a problem. Backie can take him drinking to help him gain weight.

by TylerG on Jun 26, 2009 10:28 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Huh. I’d love it if they stayed on the reservation just a little bit. Why not trade down, take an extra pick and THEN pin the tail on the donkey?

by Hunky Dory on Jun 26, 2009 10:29 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

No promises that he’s going to be available. I’m sure GMGM talked to a ton of guys before deciding to go with this pick.

I'm so sick and tired of the refs explaining the calls like this is the NFL.

by Whiter Mage on Jun 26, 2009 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

aye, as he did with Pokoluk ; )

by Hunky Dory on Jun 26, 2009 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No GM bats 1.000.

I'm so sick and tired of the refs explaining the calls like this is the NFL.

by Whiter Mage on Jun 26, 2009 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Corey sounded like they were close to dealing with Boston.

by Bald Pollack on Jun 26, 2009 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

BOS has a pick at 25.

by TylerG on Jun 26, 2009 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oops nevermind. Page not updated. HA.

by TylerG on Jun 26, 2009 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No worries mate.

by Bald Pollack on Jun 26, 2009 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And in all fairness, he’s not a bad pick and not that far off the board. I like him a lot better than some of the other available guys (Reilly). Probably would’ve taken Shore, but he’s not bad.

by Vinn on Jun 26, 2009 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Do they do this for the next two rounds?

uhh...uhh...uhh...

by hotdog88gt on Jun 26, 2009 10:30 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

they prob could have traded down and still get him. but hey, caps drafting is usually smart so hopefully they know what they are doing.

by hockeyman33 on Jun 26, 2009 10:33 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Call ’em out, bring ’em up, take pix.

uhh...uhh...uhh...

by hotdog88gt on Jun 26, 2009 10:34 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Usually not, because a lot of the guys projected past round one don’t even show up.

I'm so sick and tired of the refs explaining the calls like this is the NFL.

by Whiter Mage on Jun 26, 2009 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good for us….

uhh...uhh...uhh...

by hotdog88gt on Jun 26, 2009 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Looks like we’re not the only ones reaching…

by Scott in Shaw on Jun 26, 2009 10:40 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Most teams have been “reaching,” it seems.

I'm so sick and tired of the refs explaining the calls like this is the NFL.

by Whiter Mage on Jun 26, 2009 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The consensus was that the players from 1-20(ish) were clear, but everything after that was muddied because the draft was so deep. I guess there’s not much difference talent-wise between guys at 30 versus guys at 50. At least according to the scouts.

by D'ohboy on Jun 26, 2009 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

604 posts?

Wow. Have a good night kids.

by Bald Pollack on Jun 26, 2009 10:41 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

So does Marcus wear #6 with the Caps?

by superjuan on Jun 26, 2009 10:41 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

As in Calle.

by D'ohboy on Jun 26, 2009 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Too bad they changed unis since then.

by superjuan on Jun 26, 2009 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I kind of hope not. 2-6 are for defensemen, in my book, and any forward who dips below 7 always throws me for a freaking loop. 7 is almost too low, too.

I'm so sick and tired of the refs explaining the calls like this is the NFL.

by Whiter Mage on Jun 26, 2009 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The guy is a Cap in 2012 at the earliest. So…. I mean, the last thing that matters is his uni number?!?!?

by TylerG on Jun 26, 2009 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Question was asked, opinion answer was given~

I'm so sick and tired of the refs explaining the calls like this is the NFL.

by Whiter Mage on Jun 26, 2009 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Twas, for the most part, a joke…

by superjuan on Jun 26, 2009 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not anymore really… It now feels like the low numbers are for the old defensemen.