Draft Night Open Thread
by J.P. on Jun 26, 2009 3:30 PM EDT
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Caps trade 24th pick to Cavaliers for Shaq. Bank on it.
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by CapitalsKremlin on Jun 26, 2009 3:36 PM EDT reply actions
The image of Shaquille O’Neal on ice skates nearly triggered a gigglefit.
"It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees." - Delores Ibarruri
It’s not as if tall basketball players haven’t been picked up by hockey teams before. Manute Bol was signed to a CHL contract at one point. http://espn.go.com/minorlh/news/2002/1112/1460103.html
I'm so sick and tired of the refs explaining the calls like this is the NFL.
Nice.
Just for the fact that it’s a Quebec beer and red, I might offer Maudite.
by Stephen Pepper on Jun 26, 2009 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions
For my $, the best IPAs in the USA right now are Lagunitas, Anderson Valley, Avery, Victory and Bear Republic.
Stone and Dogfish Head, along with Lagunitas, are my three favorites. Southern Tier makes a pretty tasty IPA, as well.
Plus, you get to read the stuff on the side of the Stone bottles, which is always good for a chuckle, at least when you’re buzzed.
by Knee high to a duck on Jun 26, 2009 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions
yay dogfish head! :)
(i work at the restaurant, haha)
they taught me to actually kind of like beer there… and that’s quite a feat for me.
Dogfish (barring Brickskellar) is my favorite bar, because it’s actually a bar. I don’t have to scream to be heard, the beer is excellent and I can get to know the bartenders.
I just turned 24 and I’m already a grouchy old man.
by Knee high to a duck on Jun 26, 2009 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Bonjour à tous! Bienvenue à le repêchage de la NHL 2009!
Le booooooo!
by Bald Pollack on Jun 26, 2009 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Tough crowd. And it’s almost Friday happy hour!
by Stephen Pepper on Jun 26, 2009 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions
AND I WON’T GET TO WATCH! But I’ll be keeping up with my iPhone – can I comment mobile-ly?
by DrinkingPartner on Jun 26, 2009 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions
My comments are always classic! Previous comments like: “Fuck yeah!” “That’s right!” “Flash sucks!” and so on.
How can you question the quality of my commentary?!
by DrinkingPartner on Jun 26, 2009 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Tough crowd. And it’s almost Friday happy hour!
I was just channeling Habs fan when Der Kommissar takes the stage.
by Bald Pollack on Jun 26, 2009 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions
That should have ben LNH XD
"It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees." - Delores Ibarruri
Sitting in a quality “Days Inn” in Montreal… If anything “fun” happens… i’ll update. Have they added a mobile comment feature yet to the mobile webpage??
i’m already drunk. we’re heading to the repechage in about 45 minutes. looking for pierre mcguire… he needs to be heckled.
I’m going to be drunk off my ass at the Aberdeen Ironbirds game tonight, following the draft more closely than the game :-). Anyone here ever been to that park?
by DrinkingPartner on Jun 26, 2009 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Great Scofield – let us know what you see and hear.
Unfortunately, still no mobile commenting on SB Nation as of yet.
by Stephen Pepper on Jun 26, 2009 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions
small recap
First – the obvious – massive boos for “Gerry Bettman” as he was displayed on the big screen, toronto, and boston.
it seemed to me that the centre bell has great atmosphere… i’d like to see a game here.
as phoenix was on the clock… bettman announces ":next on the clock … PHOEN IX…. coyotes
…then starts the chants HAM – IL – TON …. HAM – IL – TON!!!
it was at this point we realized that this draft was going to take 6 hours and began to wander. we did move down to the second row… where during the caps pic, we made a small amount of noise and were noticed and thanked by GMGM and BB. Some guy I don’t know came over from the table and gave us a draft day hat. so that was pretty cool.
it was the after hours that made the night… that might be a different thread.
Any draft night drinking games to share? Certainly any mention of reaching should require a reach for your beverage . . .
Any time anyone talks about Brian Burke trying to trade up.
Oh, no, wait, we’d all be dead before the first selection was actually made.
Make up an over/under on Swedes taken in the first 2 rounds, and drink the difference (actual)
by Bald Pollack on Jun 26, 2009 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions
You’re not a fan of this one?
Bonjour from Montreal, Caps fans. I just arrived a little while ago and went straight into a Professional Hockey Writers’ Association meeting at the media hotel. So I’m playing catch up at the moment.
Anyway, I just wanted to post a quick note letting everyone know that I’ll be at Bell Centre tonight and will be blogging all the Caps’ news that goes down, live from draft floor. I hope to be up and running around 6 or so, soon after a quick chat with Bruce Boudreau.
by Gould Old Days on Jun 26, 2009 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Luongo
Here’s a question: Why are the ‘Nucks doing the Luongo extension now? He’s got a year left. What’s the urgency?!
(In a related story: VAN has apparently decided that Cory Schneider is not the future. And in one fell-swoop they’ve destroyed much of his value as an asset.)
Because he couldn’t beat Hershey? Wow. Didn’t I keep hearing he won best goalie in the AHL this year?
I didn’t think he showed much all year, except a lot of .ca-centric chatter. Take a look at his NHL stats.
Yes, he did, though AHL accolades don’t say much about NHL success.
by Stephen Pepper on Jun 26, 2009 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Two hours to go….
Here’s a nice article from NBC Sports picking the Caps for SC 09-10 champs.
Rockin' the Red in Section 412
And dammit, it’s Bill Clement. GMGM is going to have to work extra hard to get around that vote of confidence.
by Gould Old Days on Jun 26, 2009 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Uh, Does Claude Lemieux becoming an American citizen count? ;)
by Stephen Pepper on Jun 26, 2009 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Judge said “I can’t believe I read that guy his freaking oath…”
by Gould Old Days on Jun 26, 2009 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Then Lemieux tripped him as he was leaving the bench.
If you've read this far...seek help.
by ThePeerless on Jun 26, 2009 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Any of you guys following the Pronger to the Caps discussion on Twitter?
Rockin' the Red in Section 412
If the Caps can move 26/4/23 and the No. 55 it’s a good deal.
The guy who defended a bizarre idea by saying that the Caps could trade Carlson/etc. if they wanted to get the deal done is… not helpful. I mean, the Caps could trade AO if they wanted to get the deal done, fer chrissakes.
Do you think that Pronger would actually go for that? Would that be enough, and can we fit him under the cap?
"It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees." - Delores Ibarruri
Quote of the day so far, from NHL on the Fly — “Matt Duschene would probably be a #1 pick if it weren’t for Tavares and Hedman”
How embarrassing is it for the NHL that this low-rent production is on NHL NETWORK (!!!!) 45 minutes before the draft.
Talking heads. Some are better than others. Then there are the ones on NHL On The Fly. //snark
Even when I eagerly watch that piece of crap (i.e., after a Caps win), I gag.
One hour of TV time + JP + DMG/Pepper/me + a 12-pack of Victory Hop Devil = Better TV than ANY studio show on NHL Network.
that is a bold statement, sir. Exactly how many of those Avery’s have you had? : )
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I have inside information that the NYI are going to select Duschene first to try to enrage their fans to the point that they burn down the Colliseum. Then the Town of Hempstead will be forced to build a new arena. Garth Snow is brilliant.
by Rob Parker on Jun 26, 2009 6:15 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
Isn’t Philly up hard against the cap limit already? That seems unlikely for them to make that much room.
Rockin' the Red in Section 412
Assuming it’s legit, figure they’ll have to part with Rathje and Jones, or face a logjam back there.
by Bald Pollack on Jun 26, 2009 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions
bear in mind, Dreger has a ‘hunch’ the Isles are picking Duchene…
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From the TSN bog. Take it for what it’s worth.
Agent Pat Brisson, who represents John Tavares and Matt Duchene, told Ryan Rishaug today that he does not know what the Islanders intend to do with the top pick. Brisson said he usually knows by now, adding that Garth Snow’s cone of silence act is something he’s never experienced in 20 years at the draft.
by Bald Pollack on Jun 26, 2009 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Appears to be Lupul and picks, says ESPN.
by Bald Pollack on Jun 26, 2009 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Off topic, but I flipped over to MTV to see if they were still playing Michael Jackson’s videos, and Jon Norris was on there, and a worse-looking human being I have not seen.
You delivered that better than Engblom.
by Bald Pollack on Jun 26, 2009 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Garth Snow may pick the IPA over Duchene.
by Bald Pollack on Jun 26, 2009 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Nice call by Bettman to come out with the legends and minimize the booing
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I wonder if they’d be willing to trade Jeff Carter. That’d be crazy, but so’s the deal they just made.
by Gould Old Days on Jun 26, 2009 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Ultimately the Flyers will give up Sbisa, Lupul *and another player* for Pronger. They’re $6M over. So that means that they’ll have to move another body to make room for him. The deal for ANA is only part of the REAL deal.
A significant player, too, if it’s a 6 million cap hit. More likely two players, I would think.
by Knee high to a duck on Jun 26, 2009 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Nope. They’ll be salary-dumping, trading salary for a fifth or something. Welcome to the capped NHL, eh?
Right, but to dump 6 million in salary, it’s going to take one of their best players under contract or two other ones, if I understand that point you’re making.
by Knee high to a duck on Jun 26, 2009 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions
The dream would be Briere. I don’t know how much they really need to shed on top of this. They got rid of 4.25 with Lupul and they don’t have much more to sign.
Yup but that will cost less than a mill and so will the 7th D if they don’t just pull guys from the AHL to fill it.
Yeah I’m not endorsing the position they put themselves in, I just don’t think they need any more major moves to make this fit under the cap.
According to NHLNumbers, even after Sbisa and Lupul: PHL is over. The Cap Geek numbers don’t include bonus cushion, right?
Bonuses are included in cap hit but not in salary (so they say).
by Bald Pollack on Jun 26, 2009 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t think anyone is going to take Briere with a long-term expensive contract and his injury history, given the cap is going to be falling soon.
They have a lot of scoring forwards, of whom I presume (although I don’t know for sure) that only Richards and Carter are untouchable among them. I have to figure they could move one or two for a goalie and a pick, or something.
by Knee high to a duck on Jun 26, 2009 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Gagne would look pretty good on the Caps…
by Gould Old Days on Jun 26, 2009 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions
I was surprised Philly made the trade with us last year.
I think they have learned their lesson.
by Moonage Daydream on Jun 26, 2009 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Phoenix... rises?
James Mirtle: From The Globe’s Paul Waldie: “Jerry Reinsdorf has made an offer worth roughly $130 million for the Phoenix Coyotes.”
Something about re-living it on TV, not on YouTube, is worth it.
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by CapitalsKremlin on Jun 26, 2009 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions
btw, Flying Dog Double Pale Ale for me tonight.
by Moonage Daydream on Jun 26, 2009 7:48 PM EDT reply actions
Ruination IPA over here, the most bitter thing I can find, but it’s so good.
by Knee high to a duck on Jun 26, 2009 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions
It makes me wonder about the owner of the Thrashers. They’re most definitely the real stupidity behind that operation.
The ownership of ATL is part of the problem. It is a group of ~ 8 people currently locked in a lawsuit between themselves. It really is not stupidity but an inability to do much of anything because of the lawsuit.
by Moonage Daydream on Jun 26, 2009 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions
What do you mean rightfully so? LAK had the pick and used it. If Burke really wanted him then pay up and move up. I don’t see where his sense of entitlement comes from (it existed before he went to TOR).
Yes, yes he does. I’ll be interested to see where MPS goes.
by Knee high to a duck on Jun 26, 2009 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m just talking in terms of DC at this point in the convo. The Pronger deal was pretty interesting just because I’m not sure why they gave up so much for a guy who has one year left on his contract.
Surely someone can figure out a drinking game based on his comments.
by Moonage Daydream on Jun 26, 2009 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Burke is about to tell the crowd to F-off!
by Moonage Daydream on Jun 26, 2009 8:10 PM EDT reply actions
Wow. Kinda seems to me that the Leafs just drafted Grabovski 2.0.
by D'ohboy on Jun 26, 2009 8:11 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Man, Burke looks just like Newt Gingrich
http://uppitynegronetwork.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/newtgingrich.jpg
by Moonage Daydream on Jun 26, 2009 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe. Perhaps they’re waiting to see who Ottawa can get with their pick to announce a trade. It would be kinda weird though – why not just trade the pick?
Please tell me the Caps have packaged Mo and their pick to move up and get Cowen
by Moonage Daydream on Jun 26, 2009 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions
I really want a big shutdown defenseman to get Crosby out of the crease!
by Moonage Daydream on Jun 26, 2009 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions
First, unless you get Hedman you aren’t getting that guy in this draft. Second, Mo and the 24 is not enough to move up to take a top 10 pick, especially if the guy is good enough to come in and keep Crosby out of the crease already. You’re just going to have to be patient and wait on Alzner and Carlson like the rest of us.
No, I realize that Mo and 24 is not enough to move up to that position, but I can dream.
I am not sure that Alzner will be that physical d-man that I want; Carlson, maybe. I am with you, though, about patience (see my previous comments about Sarge).
by Moonage Daydream on Jun 26, 2009 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t know what you mean by physical but the guy that did the best against Crosby all post-season was Lidstrom. He’s not the most “physical” guy on his own team but being solid on your feet and smart enough to always be in position goes a long way.
No doubt that I agree with you that (hopefully) Alzner is a positional type defenseman in the mold of Lidstrom. And I also agree that there is great value in that type defenseman.
My only point is that I would also like a big d-man with a mean streak (think Stevens and Pronger) that will physically challenge Crosby/Hartnell/others when they get near the net. I think Cowen could be that guy in a few years.
No need to argue the effectiveness of one vs. the other. I would like both types of d-men on the Caps.
by Moonage Daydream on Jun 26, 2009 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Are you comparing Erskine and Juice to Stevens and Pronger?
by Moonage Daydream on Jun 26, 2009 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Are you comparing Erskine and Juice to Stevens and Pronger?
That was sarcasm.
My only point is that Crosby did too much in front of the Caps’ net during the playoffs, and I think Cowen is the type of player that will prevent players from having so much freedom in front of the net.
by Moonage Daydream on Jun 26, 2009 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Did Philly just give up the farm to bring in Pronger for “positional play?”
by Direction 87 on Jun 26, 2009 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions
It doesn’t matter why they did it, they still gave up a ton. And while everyone talks about Pronger’s physicality (because he’s dirty) it’s only his positional play that allows him to play like that. He is where the puck is going first and when you get there you get mauled. Lidstrom and Timmonen just get there and move the puck before you can do anything. It’s just a different style but the positional play is the key.
Pronger is going to spend a lot of time making sure Crosby pays the price for hanging out around the crease (something we didnt do during the playoffs)…if that’s “positional” play, so be it.
by Direction 87 on Jun 26, 2009 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions
The new rules do not completely remove the physical part of hockey.
by Moonage Daydream on Jun 26, 2009 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Line of the night from Bryan Murray there, on the Heatley situation
“Are you going to have to reduce your expectations?”
“No, we’re probably going to have Danny Heatley play left wing for our hockey team if nothing works out.”
Agreed. And the right approach, especially because DanyBoy is douchily asking for a deal… but only to certain teams.
Great stat
No Americans were taken in the top ten this year. According to TSN Researcher Kevin Gibson, the last time an American born player didn’t go in the top 10 was 1993.
Minnesota #Wild trade pick #12 to New York #Islander for picks #16 #77 #182.
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by CapitalsKremlin on Jun 26, 2009 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Isles essentially burn five picks to select De Haan.
by Stephen Pepper on Jun 26, 2009 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions
They had an outside shot at getting him at 26.
by Bald Pollack on Jun 26, 2009 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions
I love how McGuire was gushing about how “smart” their decision was. . . right before they picked de Haan.
Maybe the Isles guy got picked, and Snow got nervous about it happening again, so he moved up just to be sure. One layup, and then… How many picks do they have left, now? Are they in the minus yet?
Draft picks, 77 and I think 16 or 20 something, it was a first rounder.
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by CapitalsKremlin on Jun 26, 2009 8:55 PM EDT reply actions
Tarik just posted:
Anyway, I wanted to catch everyone up on what I’ve observed at the Caps’ table. GM George McPhee has been on the phone. A lot. What I found more interesting, though, was his 10-minute long conversation with Boston GM Peter Chiarelli. That conversation was followed by Coach Bruce Boudreau talking to his Bruins’ counterpart, Claude Julien, for about 10 minutes.
Of course, the Caps’ and Bruins’ tables are right next to each other. But they were saying more than just, “Hello.”
Either way, it is a little odd that two of the top three EC teams are talking trade
by Moonage Daydream on Jun 26, 2009 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Also from Tarik:
[T]he Caps ought to be drafting sometime around 11. Ugh. That’s putting a serious crimp in my post-draft plans.
Seems like he’s itching to get to the strip clubs on Rue St. Catherine? :)
by Stephen Pepper on Jun 26, 2009 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions
In the range...
We’re entering the part of the draft where if the Caps really love someone that they can move up to get him for a fairly reasonable cost.
Ditto, I was just thinking the same thing. I wonder whom is remaining that the Caps love???
by Moonage Daydream on Jun 26, 2009 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions
I ID’d guys I thought would/should interest the Caps. They’re all still on the board.
11 of first 15 picks have been Canadian.
Somewhere in Canada there is a guy in an ugly suit giving the draft a big thumbs up!
by Moonage Daydream on Jun 26, 2009 9:21 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
That little tree thing next to the link icon is your friend.
by Bald Pollack on Jun 26, 2009 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions
11 of first 15 picks have been Canadian.
Sorry, I meant to quote it.
by Moonage Daydream on Jun 26, 2009 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions
No worries brother. I can’t be mad at anyone who has Paul’s Boutique as an av.
by Bald Pollack on Jun 26, 2009 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Easily one of the greatest albums ever. You are the first one to pick up on the av.
by Moonage Daydream on Jun 26, 2009 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t think he is a stretch. I have been hearing his name projected as a first rounder for at least a month. Of course, it was always tied to the Wild.
by Moonage Daydream on Jun 26, 2009 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions
As you drink more, the guesses get wilder.
by Bald Pollack on Jun 26, 2009 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Lettermen is unfazed by age.
by Moonage Daydream on Jun 26, 2009 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
man this draft is slower than the NFL’s…..
by RedskinFan4Life on Jun 26, 2009 9:27 PM EDT reply actions
Damn, forgot about Zimbabwe…they have been improving. Especially with that super stud ManHuice Bambwa
by CapsFanSince1979 on Jun 26, 2009 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Russia and Finland -- they’ll be the only ones who have anyone left
by RedskinFan4Life on Jun 26, 2009 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Looking good...
I love this. Moore, Josefson, Leblanc, Kreider and Ashton…one will be available for us and I like them. Guys I figured we would be picking from are going.
by CapsFanSince1979 on Jun 26, 2009 9:29 PM EDT reply actions
I agree…but Louis Leblanc is another good option. From Quebec and also well educated, which Gainey will like.
by CapsFanSince1979 on Jun 26, 2009 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Fredo Kostitsyn is another year away from being eligible.
by Bald Pollack on Jun 26, 2009 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions
I hope this does not turn out to be the highlight of his hockey career.
by Moonage Daydream on Jun 26, 2009 9:36 PM EDT reply actions
I suspect that she could teach us alot of things
by Moonage Daydream on Jun 26, 2009 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions
I would be upset…I want Josefson for the Caps
by CapsFanSince1979 on Jun 26, 2009 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions
but I am hoping that Schroeder is taken off the board….I do not want him
by CapsFanSince1979 on Jun 26, 2009 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions
playing games….this draft is longer than the NFL’s. thought the Caps be drafting in the next two mins…..
by RedskinFan4Life on Jun 26, 2009 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes, but it only feels half as long because there’s no Chris Berman
by David Getz on Jun 26, 2009 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
So in 20 minutes, do we lose TV coverage?
by Moonage Daydream on Jun 26, 2009 9:42 PM EDT reply actions
That’s a crock that the Rangers got a pick for Cheraponov. I wonder if Vancouver got a pick for the loss of that defenseman.
by CapsFanSince1979 on Jun 26, 2009 9:44 PM EDT reply actions
I thought the Rags did not get anything???
by Moonage Daydream on Jun 26, 2009 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions
interesting - his fav player is Ovechkin….
by RedskinFan4Life on Jun 26, 2009 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions
that he’d have an outside chance playing for the Caps….. ‘course that’s mute now since he’s been picked….
by RedskinFan4Life on Jun 26, 2009 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions
that’s not all -- 6’2 and 201 lbs….nice size…better than Schroeder.
by RedskinFan4Life on Jun 26, 2009 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions
I am so scared we are going to get Schroeder.
by CapsFanSince1979 on Jun 26, 2009 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Then he’s picked roughly where people thought he could have gone?
by Bald Pollack on Jun 26, 2009 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Budish is the guy I want. But that’s just off of what I read. I emphasize I don’t know jack about any of these kids.
I like him, but not in the first. Maybe if you trade down
by CapsFanSince1979 on Jun 26, 2009 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions
At this point there are several guys I’d be happy with that are left and not enough picks that they can all be taken before we pick so I should be happy.
Budish and:
11-20 on TSN: Carter Ashton
21-30 on TSN: Jordan Caron, Ryan O’Reilly
31-40 on TSN: Jeremy Morin, Joonas Nattinen
I’m with you, I’ve sung Josefson’s prasies for some time but you really turned me onto O’Reilly.
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by CapitalsKremlin on Jun 26, 2009 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m fine with those, I’m also lighting a candle for Klingberg.
by Bald Pollack on Jun 26, 2009 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Probably right…but was Anaheim going to take him
by CapsFanSince1979 on Jun 26, 2009 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Let’s act like we did’nt want him anyway…;)
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by CapitalsKremlin on Jun 26, 2009 9:55 PM EDT reply actions
I see charity auction written all over them.
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by CapitalsKremlin on Jun 26, 2009 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions
They will be auctioned on nhl.com after the draft
by CapsFanSince1979 on Jun 26, 2009 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions
I could see GMGM doing this too. Trading down to get 2 picks in the next 30 because of the depth of this part of the draft.
Not sure he will do that this year….fitting into the 50 man roster is getting a little tight. Just like I think he would favor a player that does not have to be signed for 3 years (ie. NCAA or Europe)
by CapsFanSince1979 on Jun 26, 2009 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions
cha ching
from the house that Red Jesus built
by bigonetimer on Jun 26, 2009 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions
i know….draft John Moore - trade him for Josefson?
by RedskinFan4Life on Jun 26, 2009 9:58 PM EDT reply actions
my bad……thats what I get for not having live TV am following this along on nhl.com. it just updated ANA and CBJ trade and subsequent pick.
if you know a faster updating website, i’d love to know it
by RedskinFan4Life on Jun 26, 2009 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Man, all those guys I thought that one would make Washington are almost all gone. Just Ashton left
by CapsFanSince1979 on Jun 26, 2009 10:01 PM EDT reply actions
I would not be surprised to see Ashton or Ferraro go to Vancouver
by CapsFanSince1979 on Jun 26, 2009 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Des Pres, they’re going to need a puck moving D soon.
by Bald Pollack on Jun 26, 2009 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Has McGuire blasted anyone for their pick??? Where is the Kiper vehemence for a stupid pick?
by Moonage Daydream on Jun 26, 2009 10:02 PM EDT reply actions
It’ll be Ashton or Ferraro, unless Vancouver does something strange.
by Bald Pollack on Jun 26, 2009 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions
I have had that feeling since the fifth pick
by Moonage Daydream on Jun 26, 2009 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Hey, good on Versus sticking with the draft (so far).
by cuqui on Jun 26, 2009 10:04 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Man, Video Prof just saps all the excitement out of the night
by Moonage Daydream on Jun 26, 2009 10:06 PM EDT reply actions
Vancouver
please take Schroeder…though you probably take Ashton or Ferraro
by CapsFanSince1979 on Jun 26, 2009 10:08 PM EDT reply actions
Not a fan of 5’8" players…at least with first round picks.
by CapsFanSince1979 on Jun 26, 2009 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions
I didn’t expect him to say Minniesooooota the way he did.
by thehoagster07 on Jun 26, 2009 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions
I still think Calgary will take
Carter Ashton (who I want for the Caps as #1 on my list – now the others are gone)
by CapsFanSince1979 on Jun 26, 2009 10:10 PM EDT reply actions
I think Calgary prefers Ashton’s size
by CapsFanSince1979 on Jun 26, 2009 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions
but you like Budish who has really not played against good competition for even one year
by CapsFanSince1979 on Jun 26, 2009 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions
So, WSH is 2 away...
I’m feeling trade down a few spots. If GMGM can, I bet he will. I think there may be 10 guys the Caps probably like here and that they can move down and get two of them….
Caps are going to take either Ferraro or Ashton
by CapsFanSince1979 on Jun 26, 2009 10:12 PM EDT reply actions
Then don’t say ‘they are’ say you think they are. Otherwise we think you’ve read something somewhere that might be int’g to the rest of us.
I didn’t think that at all. I’m guessing most other people didn’t either.
by Cluster on Jun 26, 2009 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Wow, that one surprises me. The grinding Canadian brothers take a swede
by CapsFanSince1979 on Jun 26, 2009 10:14 PM EDT reply actions
let me know as soon as you hear/see it !!!!! i have no tv here
by RedskinFan4Life on Jun 26, 2009 10:19 PM EDT reply actions
McPhee to the podium. He’s going to pick
by Gould Old Days on Jun 26, 2009 10:20 PM EDT reply actions
GMGM was all business.
Capitals Kremlin the second line center of the Caps blogosphere.
by CapitalsKremlin on Jun 26, 2009 10:20 PM EDT reply actions
yeah, no fanfare. no parade to the podium.
phht
from the house that Red Jesus built
by bigonetimer on Jun 26, 2009 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions
From ISS
International Scouting Services: Playmaking forward with great game sense and vision with the puck. Johansson has been an effective and consistent offensive threat for Sweden at both the U18 and U20 levels for the past couple of seasons. A shifty and technically skilled skater, Johansson has great hands and an excellent touch on the puck. Another young Swede with men’s league experience, he proved that he can be an effective point producer at the next level already, putting up 10 points in 45 games for Farjestad in the Swedish Elite League.
Has a shot he should use more often.
Sound like any other Swedes that we know?
by Moonage Daydream on Jun 26, 2009 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Concussions.
Not a word I want to hear associated with their pick
by Moonage Daydream on Jun 26, 2009 10:22 PM EDT reply actions
reading his profile on NHL.com nothing about a concussion anywhere
by RedskinFan4Life on Jun 26, 2009 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions
I find anything those guys say to be ambiguous at best.
I'm so sick and tired of the refs explaining the calls like this is the NFL.
by Whiter Mage on Jun 26, 2009 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m not crazy about this. I like O’Reilly, I like Budish, I even like Ashton okay….but….I dunno about this one.
could turn into 6/200 by x-mas, I suppose….
/ducks
from the house that Red Jesus built
by bigonetimer on Jun 26, 2009 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Why do you say that? He played with men for the last year, Schroeder did not. I’m sure he’s pretty strong.
Flash played with men last year
by Moonage Daydream on Jun 26, 2009 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
He also had pneumonia, in case you missed that little tidbit.
"It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees." - Delores Ibarruri
Yes, but the pneumonia hit him in the middle of the season, not at the start. Flash’s strength has always been lacking
by Moonage Daydream on Jun 27, 2009 8:39 AM EDT up reply actions
they can’t call us a Russian team anymore now we’re a Swede team
by RedskinFan4Life on Jun 26, 2009 10:24 PM EDT reply actions
I really hope they know what they’re doing here, because this guy is pretty far off the board. I hope this isn’t another Gustafsson situation.
Might even be a statement about Gustafsson’s progress, who knows.
by Bald Pollack on Jun 26, 2009 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions
The good thing about Johansson is that he’s playing in the Elite League, not in the junior league like Gus.
I still don’t mind Gus. Really. He may be developing better than we thought. If they wanted a center to step in right away, they wouldn’t have taken this kid.
I'm so sick and tired of the refs explaining the calls like this is the NFL.
by Whiter Mage on Jun 26, 2009 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions
No, but you have to think a guy like Ferraro is closer than a guy like Johannson.
I'm so sick and tired of the refs explaining the calls like this is the NFL.
by Whiter Mage on Jun 26, 2009 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Winger or not, if they wanted a center sooner, there were some on the table.
I'm so sick and tired of the refs explaining the calls like this is the NFL.
by Whiter Mage on Jun 26, 2009 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions
ok i’ll be heading off now no picks for a while now. i’ll catch up tomorrow
by RedskinFan4Life on Jun 26, 2009 10:25 PM EDT reply actions
Given that center is the Caps’ greatest need, do you believe that they followed your mantra?
by Moonage Daydream on Jun 26, 2009 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes. Their pick is two years away at a bare minimum and they’re not drafting a player for 2012 based on their 2009 needs.
Pretty much any pick they made is 3 years away. It would not be a stretch to think that their need in 2012 will be center. You have to think that they will be strong at G and D.
I do not disagree with you, I just think it is valid to ask if they are drafting for need.
by Moonage Daydream on Jun 26, 2009 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions
No doubt they could have a need at center in 2012 but Gus and Perreault could pan out and Steckel and Gordon could still be here – it’s awfully had to know. I just think with the depth the Caps have and where they’re picking they’re picking based on who they think is best overall
by David Getz on Jun 26, 2009 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Actually, I’m fine with not getting “grit” in the first round. I would have liked someone with size and skill, but if that wasn’t available, or the guy wasn’t skilled enough, I’d rather have the better player. Grit is always available in the lower rounds.
I think most had him in the very late 20s, or early 30s. I don’t trust TSN’s ratings either – I think they take way too much away from European players. From the looks of it, the NHL GMs don’t trust them either.
I'm so sick and tired of the refs explaining the calls like this is the NFL.
by Whiter Mage on Jun 26, 2009 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, we know nothing but bodies and stats.
I will keep telling myself this as I scrutinize this pick.
by Moonage Daydream on Jun 26, 2009 10:27 PM EDT reply actions
Line of the night
In response to my complaints about 5-11, 189, my STHmate: 5-11, 189 not a problem. Backie can take him drinking to help him gain weight.
Huh. I’d love it if they stayed on the reservation just a little bit. Why not trade down, take an extra pick and THEN pin the tail on the donkey?
No promises that he’s going to be available. I’m sure GMGM talked to a ton of guys before deciding to go with this pick.
I'm so sick and tired of the refs explaining the calls like this is the NFL.
by Whiter Mage on Jun 26, 2009 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions
No GM bats 1.000.
I'm so sick and tired of the refs explaining the calls like this is the NFL.
by Whiter Mage on Jun 26, 2009 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Corey sounded like they were close to dealing with Boston.
by Bald Pollack on Jun 26, 2009 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Usually not, because a lot of the guys projected past round one don’t even show up.
I'm so sick and tired of the refs explaining the calls like this is the NFL.
by Whiter Mage on Jun 26, 2009 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Most teams have been “reaching,” it seems.
I'm so sick and tired of the refs explaining the calls like this is the NFL.
by Whiter Mage on Jun 26, 2009 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions
I kind of hope not. 2-6 are for defensemen, in my book, and any forward who dips below 7 always throws me for a freaking loop. 7 is almost too low, too.
I'm so sick and tired of the refs explaining the calls like this is the NFL.
by Whiter Mage on Jun 26, 2009 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions
The guy is a Cap in 2012 at the earliest. So…. I mean, the last thing that matters is his uni number?!?!?
Question was asked, opinion answer was given~
I'm so sick and tired of the refs explaining the calls like this is the NFL.
by Whiter Mage on Jun 26, 2009 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Hahaha, true story.
I'm so sick and tired of the refs explaining the calls like this is the NFL.
by Whiter Mage on Jun 26, 2009 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh, look the ducks took a player with character issues, what a stretch they made.
"And next year it will be ours."
well, gotta stop drinking and go to work
those hearts aren’t gonna transplant themselves…
Your favorite meme is dead
Did I miss something, or is the first round the only round for tonight?
I'm so sick and tired of the refs explaining the calls like this is the NFL.
I don’t know how long Japers’ has been around, but I’d be curious to see what was said of Mike Green when he was picked.
"It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees." - Delores Ibarruri
We noticed that a few of the defensemen picked were compared to Green in their style of play. I said that Green didn’t play like Green when he was drafted, so that tells you absolutely nothing.
If you read ESPN at the time, not all that much:
The Caps are another club that started to rebuild on the ruins of last season’s salary dump. GM George McPhee didn’t outsmart himself with the first overall pick, going the no-brainer route with Russian phenom Alexander Ovechkin. With basically one veteran defender left standing in Brendan Witt, McPhee got a gem at No. 27 in Jeff Schultz of the WHL’s Calgary Hitmen. Some eyebrows shot up when the Caps took Ray Bourque’s pint-sized son, Chris, three picks into the second round. But the Caps had enough picks to take a risk. And a 5-foot-7 dynamo can come in handy, as Tampa Bay Lightning winger Martin St. Louis just proved winning the Hart Trophy and the Stanley Cup.
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