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Égalité, Fraternité, . . . Identité

A lesser-known French travel writer named Bernardin de Saint-Pierre once mused, during his travels, that it is Nature's intent that humanity be organized into families, rather than larger fraternities or affinity groups, as the latter tends toward conflict, and can too easily reveal our combustible nature.  I'm not sure whether a certain gentleman's affinity for a sports team led to the fisticuffs and broken glass witnessed in front of the main bar at Bar Louie prior to the Capitals game this past Saturday, but I wouldn't be surprised.

But I am sure that the "fraternity" (for sure, not gender-specific), the community created by mutual admiration for the same group of hockey players that play in our nation's capital has proven to be quite a positive influence.  (Particularly the community created here.)  It's a part of my identity written in indelible ink.

So I'm reading that passage out of this admittedly obscure work on my Acela ride back to New York yesterday from attending Saturday's overly-dramatic contest, and of course I am making a connection to hockey, because thoughts of the game and the Caps course through most every neuron of my brain at all times.  Just how much of my identity is connected to Caps fandom, being part of that loyal group, disparate in age and background but united in one common pursuit? 

It's perhaps an odd question to pose at this time of the season, but one that I've often pondered since I've moved to New York, a very passionate sports town in its own right.  And one brought back to mind after attending the last home game and swiftly returning home.  (Plus, it's March Madness time, when so many of us reconnect and get back to our college roots.)  After almost a decade up here, I remain completely unable to wrap myself in the colors of any of its major professional teams.  Supporting the Caps in Gotham, amidst three old Patrick Division rivals, I'm both a loyalist and a renegade.

Obviously, the team in one way represents us who live in the vicinity of the District or have a strong connection to its environs.  They're the Washington Capitals, and the three stars on the jersey are said to signify the diamond-shaped enclave of the District as well as Maryland and Virginia.  While no current players on the team actually hail from those parts, they do live here most of the year, and many have publicly expressed their happiness with the area.  Why do we care?  Because it reflects on us.  It's a vote of confidence.

Particularly these days, there's a lot about the Caps organization which with one would happily identify:  perseverance; development of "home-grown" talent; major star power from authentic personalities; an owner who professes to run the team as a "public trust;" inspirational stories of determination; and a steady, carefully-designed course toward success.  There is pride for the fan in wearing a Caps jersey.

While being a out-of-town supporter and writer does have some redeeming qualities, I miss being part of the society of fans back home.  Most of those fans that I’ve met over the years have been a joy to chat with (and, lest there be any doubt, quite knowledgeable of the game and its history).  They feel like part of my extended family.  And I've made several lasting friendships from this shared obsession with Capitals hockey.  Folks that I likely wouldn't have met any other way.  We're all on this roller coaster together.

So how much of your identity is wrapped up in supporting Les Capitals?  Particularly now where the team has a better chance at ultimate glory than at any time in the last two decades, if not in franchise history.  When you speak of the team, do you use the pronoun "we" or "they"?  At what point on a dating or social networking profile would you, or do you, mention that you're a Capitals fan?

When the team is victorious, do you feel that you've achieved a personal victory, a validation of your support?  When they lose, do you feel betrayed, cheated?  Or do the results of games fade from your mind soon after the final horn?

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oddly enough, there was a Popeye-esque Caps fan who tried to start trouble with me and a friend while we were grabbing a beer after the Pens game. It seemed to calm down when I reminded the guy that we were all Caps fans, and there was no reason for hostility. J.P. actually had the pleasure of being an innocent bystander for that particular example of stupidity.

by Sombrero Guy on Mar 16, 2009 2:05 PM EDT reply actions  

That was awesome. Dude was yelling, “You wanna get loud? Let’s go outside and get loud!” I half wanted it to go down just to see how much louder he was going to get.

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by J.P. on Mar 16, 2009 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

J.P.‘s entertainment > Sombrero Guy’s jaw remaining intact?

by David Getz on Mar 16, 2009 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nah. It was SG’s buddy who was going to be in the dust up, though I have no doubt SG would’ve found his way into it rather quickly.

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by J.P. on Mar 16, 2009 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

haha just in case, I had taken the Sombrero off as a precaution. The only similar bar dust up I’ve been in since college resulted in some minor damage to the Sombrero. This damage coincided with the Caps recent struggles at home. Coincidence? I think not.

by Sombrero Guy on Mar 16, 2009 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

haha just in case, I had taken the Sombrero off as a precaution.

That’s when you know: It. Is. On.

by David Getz on Mar 16, 2009 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Did you ever fix the sombrero, by the way?

"It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees." - Delores Ibarruri

by gotsparkly on Mar 16, 2009 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

not yet, a buddy has a nearly identical sombrero that I am going to experiment on t see what patching method works best. It will be done by the Tampa Bay game

by Sombrero Guy on Mar 16, 2009 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

wait a second. I saw a sombrero in the crowd on Saturday in the 400’s and one on F Street before. Did I hate a close encounter with SG and not know it?

by CapitalsKremlin on Mar 16, 2009 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

haha, This past Saturday I wasn’t at the game. I have heard that there is another sombrero wearing fan but I have not see him myself. My usual seats are 404 but we’re moving to 407 for the playoffs and next season.

by Sombrero Guy on Mar 16, 2009 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m in 405, but I’ve seen a sombrero at other locations sometimes. You two should have a Sombrero fight at center ice, I’d pay to see that.

by CapitalsKremlin on Mar 16, 2009 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not only that...

But these guys are basically our collective children. We were here long before they were (as a part of the Capitals organization — STH, fans, employees, etc), so we take them into our hearts and minds and watch them grow and develop (prospects are the unborn children we can’t wait to see when they finally emerge). We criticize them harshly, but, that only shows how much we care, and, deep down, we only wish to see them succeed. We would fight to the death (metaphorically speaking) for each and every one of them. Alexander Ovechkin is all of ours, because we took and accepted him into our local culture, and he makes us proud. We are proud of his accomplishments, because we relish them as much, or, most likely, even more so than he does. That is why we use “we,” and why we are so deeply attached to them. Even though they are just a sports team.

by DrinkingPartner on Mar 16, 2009 2:15 PM EDT reply actions   3 recs

I always try my hardest not to use “we” when referring to the Caps – equal parts pseudo-journalistic integrity and self-defense mechanism – but it’s impossible to ignore how big a part of my life this team has been for decades, even if that love is totally (or at least mostly) unrequited.

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by J.P. on Mar 16, 2009 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ken Beatrice(sp?) used to correct callers that used “we” when referring to their favorite sports teams. “Do you get paid by, or work for the organization? Then it is they, not we.” I always disagreed with that. Yet strangely, I try not to use we. After all, I have no impact on who “we” start tonight, how “we” should approach the trade deadline, or who “we” sign in the offseason.

by Sct112 on Mar 16, 2009 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ken Beatrice on WMAL

That’s a great memory-thanks! : ) I never was 100% with him, either, but that voice is forever.

by bigonetimer on Mar 16, 2009 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

"It's not physically pawsable to give moaw than 100%!"

I did 4 years in Ithaca, NY another 3 years in Bergen County, NJ followed by another 3 in NYC (Sports @ 74th & B’way?) wearing the badge of a respectable but proud Capitals fan. When you are an out of town rabid sports fan, you are your cities’ advertising. As was mentioned for the first Boston ame here, if you want to be a jerk, take off the sweater and have fun.

"Every person is a damn fool for at least five minutes every day. Wisdom consists in not exceeding the limit." Elbert Hubbard.

by Izzyforeal365 on Mar 16, 2009 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ya. While you’re wearing the sweater, you’re an ambassador for your team and your city. Teams are often judged by their fans (hey Philly, I’m looking at you). When you wearin the sweater, don’t be a jerk.

"It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees." - Delores Ibarruri

by gotsparkly on Mar 16, 2009 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think that’s more than most people can handle. :P

"It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees." - Delores Ibarruri

by gotsparkly on Mar 16, 2009 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Philly looks back at you and your projectile beer bottles :)

Swing by The Flyer Frequent. You have nothing better to do.

by Ben Rothenberg on Mar 16, 2009 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ken Beatrice… nice. His son actually coached my baseball team in 8th grade I think it was.

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by J.P. on Mar 16, 2009 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

He’s the one who convinced me not to eat the fries at Arbys

Ron and Fez Noon to Three

by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 16, 2009 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is one of the types of comments that I had hoped to inspire. Thanks DP.

by Stephen Pepper on Mar 16, 2009 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

thanks SP, and rec’d. As an out of towner who still manages to see games every year (somewhere), I can vouch for the assertion that absence makes the heart grow fonder.

by bigonetimer on Mar 16, 2009 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Np, it’s actually been on my mind for a while ever since Tarik mentioned something like that in a blog…

Or was it Vogel? Can’t remember…

by DrinkingPartner on Mar 16, 2009 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Capitals hockey has threatened to make me fail more than one spring semester class.

by Rob Parker on Mar 16, 2009 2:16 PM EDT reply actions  

I owe the only C in my college career to an extended playoff run in the spring of ‘97-’98. I chose to watch Tikkanen miss the wide open net rather than study for a final. The fact that the class was “Health & Wellness” only makes it hurt more.

by Sct112 on Mar 16, 2009 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

i’ll never forget last year’s game 7 against the flyers, sitting in the last class of the semester before finals…I brought my laptop to class and a hoody and listened to Kolbe calling the game with a headphone strung up through my sleeve and underneath the hood. In a small class of about ten people, I’m pretty sure somebody must have heard something, but there was no way I was not going to listen to that game

by caps98fan on Mar 16, 2009 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Caps have become a family issue. My wife’s first question back home after work: “Are WE playing tonight?” The younger daughter’s greatest disappointment in life is that she is not friends with another girl in her school whose father is supposedly AO’s agent…(and she’s too shy to become a friend).

by fnralch on Mar 16, 2009 2:22 PM EDT reply actions  

I think the important thing is perspective. I grew up with the Capitals, the Capitals inspired me to play hockey, and I used to pretend I was them while playing street hockey in the neighborhood. Even though they’re undeniably an somewhat amorphous concept – after all, I don’t think anyone affiliated with the team when I started to love them still is – it’s pretty much a part of human nature to root for the hometown guys, especially when you’ve grown up with them.

That said, I always make it a point to try and keep things in perspective. I do my best not to let any (non playoff) loss ruin my day and I don’t feel a Capitals win adds anything to my self worth. By the same token I don’t say “we” when I refer to the team because I want to keep a healthy distance between myself and the team and because I personally have no control over the team’s performance. I also try to keep in mind that if I were from Philadelphia, New York, or Pittsburgh I would most likely be rooting for one of the Capitals rivals, and I think it’s downright stupid to hold anything against anyone for rooting for their hometown team.

As an aside, Pepper, I want to rec this 800 times, once for the article as a whole and 799 times for working that bar fight in to it.

by David Getz on Mar 16, 2009 2:26 PM EDT reply actions  

Isn’t there a Seinfield episode about how rooting for a team is basically cheering for laundry?

by Sct112 on Mar 16, 2009 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think there a line about it but I don’t recall an episode with a plot centered around it.

I think it’s true to a certain extent and I also think that most people would admit the very nature of fandom in professional sports is a bit loopy, which is why I try not to take it too seriously.

by David Getz on Mar 16, 2009 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ahh, you aren’t two wrapped up in it, but then you write for a fan blog… the world is full of crazy twists :)

My sister once asked my dad and I why we were so wrapped up with how the Caps were doing. Neither of us could come up with an answer that made sense to us as die-hards let alone to her as a non-sports fan. Yet somehow, here I am. I guess I don’t need a reason, it just is that way, and I’m ok with that.

by Sct112 on Mar 16, 2009 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

It was definitely one of his lines.

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by J.P. on Mar 16, 2009 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Seinfeld: The Label Maker

Opening monologue:

Loyalty to any one sports team is pretty hard to justify. Because the players
are always changing, the team can move to another city, you’re actually rooting
for the clothes when you get right down to it. You know what I mean, you are
standing and cheering and yelling for your clothes to beat the clothes from
another city. Fans will be so in love with a player but if he goes to another
team, they boo him. This is the same human being in a different shirt, they
hate him now. Boo! different shirt!! Boo.

by fnralch on Mar 16, 2009 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

I went out on a date with a girl and found out she was a Duke fan. She didn’t get date #2 but I did finish the meal.

I am fairly certain if she had said she was a Penguins fan, I would have stood up, thrown a little cash on the table and just walked out.

by Sombrero Guy on Mar 16, 2009 2:37 PM EDT reply actions  

no doubt. throw in the yankees and you have a triple play of disgust

by bigonetimer on Mar 16, 2009 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

And if she’d said she was a Flyers fan?

"It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees." - Delores Ibarruri

by gotsparkly on Mar 16, 2009 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

I dated a Flyers fan once. Granted, it was way, way before my general hatred of Pennsylvania as a whole, but it was difficult, even then.

And yes, being so involved with the Caps has made the entire state of PA inhabitable to me.

by DrinkingPartner on Mar 16, 2009 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

damn it...

UNinhabitable.

Except for Hershey, of course, where it smells like Chocolate 24/7.

by DrinkingPartner on Mar 16, 2009 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s not anyway? :)

Nah, Hershey is a lovely town in the middle of hell.

"It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees." - Delores Ibarruri

by gotsparkly on Mar 16, 2009 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Btw, to those of you who don’t recognize this as a Pepper post (what, no picture with a drop-shadow?!), I offered up this image that he, thankfully, passed on:

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by J.P. on Mar 16, 2009 2:43 PM EDT reply actions  

THAT, is retarded

by ns on Mar 16, 2009 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dude, I have seven Capitals tattoos. That hurts.

by David Getz on Mar 16, 2009 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I once boldly proclaimed in the heat of argument that “If Robert Lang ever scores 80 points in a season, I’ll get a tat of his face on my left ass cheek.”

He hit pecisely 80 points – not a point more – that very season, never to reach that mark again.

I have not upheld my end of the bargain.

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by J.P. on Mar 16, 2009 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m still waiting to see if Flash upholds my ultimatum for this year. He gets 30 goals, I’ll get a Flash jersey to replace my Kolzig whichl I hope to get signed, and then framed with some Olie memorabilia.

He’s only got 13 goals to go!

by CapitalsKremlin on Mar 16, 2009 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

If Flash scores thirteen more goals this season, I’ll get his face tat’d on my other cheek.

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by J.P. on Mar 16, 2009 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

“Well I’m gonna get a tattoo of a BUTT, with a BUTT-shaped tattoo on it, and I’m gonna get it right on my BUTT. That would be cool.”

Dear Pepper:

I’m sorry to have let this thread devolve so rapidly. You quote French philosophers, I quote Butthead. Balance, I suppose.

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by J.P. on Mar 16, 2009 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

To be fair...

Mike Judge is one of the best satirists currently working, so I’m not sure that’s too far off of a French travel writer :-)

by DrinkingPartner on Mar 16, 2009 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Thanks for bringing it full circle.

by Stephen Pepper on Mar 16, 2009 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Caps Tats...

I have a friend who is a tattoo artist and I told him that, despite my needle phobia, I would get a tat from him if the Caps win the Cup. His smart-ass remark, “So you’re never getting a tat?”

I countered with “I said when the Caps win the Cup, not when the Nats win the World Series!” I already have the idea of the design, but I won’t put it on paper or anything until the event actually happens…

by MikeL-Pivonka on Mar 16, 2009 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hadn’t thought to do that, but that’s an idea.

Maybe when the Caps win the Cup, I’ll get a weagle tat on my shoulder. Blast on having to look professional.)

"It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees." - Delores Ibarruri

by gotsparkly on Mar 16, 2009 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

really? I’ve been thinking of getting one. But I’m not sure how I feel about going there…despite how much I want to.

by sonia on Mar 16, 2009 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I list the fact that I’m a Capitals fan on my resume.

I get a lot more bummed these days after losses than I used to (when wins were much harder to come by). It’s almost like we’re spoiled now, with such a talented team — I expect to win every game. I realize that’s setting the bar too high, but I can’t help it.

by Scott in Shaw on Mar 16, 2009 2:44 PM EDT reply actions  

me too!

I actually landed my current job because my supervisor is also a Caps’ fan!

by DrinkingPartner on Mar 16, 2009 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

You should probably tell him/her to hire me.

by David Getz on Mar 16, 2009 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

If only...

We desperately need another person in our dept…

by DrinkingPartner on Mar 16, 2009 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

My family uses Capitals games as reunions because we are spread out across Maryland and Virginia. The Caps are almost always involved in any dinner or phone conversation in my family. My Dad even got an Xbox 360 just so he could play my brother and I online before Caps games, and we almost always fight over who gets to be the Caps.

Even my mother has become a fan. I’m in the process of getting her a cowbell to ring at games just like she did at my brother and I’s lacrosse games (don’t hate on the Cowbell).

Strangely, the Capitals are one of two teams that we as a family agree on, the other being Nebraska Football (Go Big Red). While the rest of my family has moved on to cheering for the Redskins, I’ve stayed true to our roots with the Miami Dolphins. My Dad and I still cheer for the Yankees, while my brother is an Orioles fan now. I’m a die-hard VCU supporter, while my brother grudgingly supports Bucknell.

No matter the differences in our sporting tastes, we always have the Caps.

This year we’ve introduced six new family and extended family members to the Caps, by taking them with us to games so they can enjoy our family team. All of them have vowed to return or watch games on television. My girlfriend’s family has been integrated into our Capitals family, and it’s not uncommon for her Dad, to call me randomly to talk about his favorite player, Mike Green.

Even Capitals Kremlin is part of my “Capitals family.” Some of you may know that I’m a journalism student. Both of my parents are journalists working in the industry, and together we produce CK. I write, they offer guidance, we discuss story ideas and brainstorm features for the future. It’s like our own personal newspaper in this time of journalistic crisis.

In May, I graduate and my life will be changing drastically. Who knows if I’ll even be on the East Coast or if I’ll be within reasonable distance of attending a Caps game at home. Despite the uncertainty of the future, I know that the Capitals will always be a part of me and I will always have my family to enjoy the games with, be it in person or on the phone while watching on Center Ice.

I wouldn’t want it any other way.

by CapitalsKremlin on Mar 16, 2009 2:45 PM EDT reply actions   3 recs

Who knows if I’ll even be on the East Coast or if I’ll be within reasonable distance of attending a Caps game at home. Despite the uncertainty of the future, I know that the Capitals will always be a part of me and I will always have my family to enjoy the games with, be it in person or on the phone while watching on Center Ice.

As a fan living in California, I can tell you that it can be done! In fact, thanks to folks like you and JP and Pepper, it’s a heck of a lot easier now than it was a decade ago when I was watching the cup run from out here. At that time, my best internet option was ESPN. I think I need say no more…

by Gould Old Days on Mar 16, 2009 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Caps have become a family “thing” for my family as well. My brother started it when he started playing the game; my mom ended up taking him to so many practices and so many Caps games when he was growing up that she became a fan as well. And as it was my big-sisterly duty to support him, I found myself a Caps fan as well.

Now that my brother’s in college and I moved to a different city, my mom is constantly bugging me to come home and visit- because she has no one to go to games with. She’s been asking me about playoff tickets for two months already, and every time we talk she implores me not to forget about them. She knows never to call me during a game, but I usually expect a call after a particularly good game (or a bad one). It’s pretty awesome.

by sonia on Mar 16, 2009 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

I also care more about the Caps than Presidential elections.

by Rob Parker on Mar 16, 2009 2:47 PM EDT reply actions  

Don't even get me started...

The Caps eclipse school, work, friends, medical visits, allergic reactions…

You get the drift :-).

by DrinkingPartner on Mar 16, 2009 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Easily. I’d have taken a Caps’ Cup win even if it the trade-off was a Constitutional Amendment and four more years of Dubya.

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by J.P. on Mar 16, 2009 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Indeed. On election night I watched the Caps/Ottawa game then went to bed angry at the stupid loss to the Sens…

by MikeL-Pivonka on Mar 16, 2009 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is it because you didn’t know what the result of the Capitals/Senators game was going to be five weeks in advance?

by David Getz on Mar 16, 2009 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thank heavens for picture-in-picture technology. Caps on big screen, Obama on little screen.

Priorities safely in place.

If you've read this far...seek help.

by ThePeerless on Mar 16, 2009 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yup. I was in Ottawa the night of the inauguration.

"It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees." - Delores Ibarruri

by gotsparkly on Mar 16, 2009 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ah...

That second comment is very different from the first one :-).

by DrinkingPartner on Mar 16, 2009 2:54 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah, I had a little brain cramp, and as Rink Overlord, I am allowed to correct my mistakes, whereas yours are there for all to see for eternity. :)

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by J.P. on Mar 16, 2009 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

The best thing about the Caps: It’s helped me learn more about the love life of fanboy bloggers.

I mean, who wouldn’t want to know about that?

by TylerG on Mar 16, 2009 3:46 PM EDT reply actions  

For someone who hates OFB so much, you spend a remarkable amount of time reading it :)

by Sct112 on Mar 16, 2009 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m like a pit bull. People occasionally throw me red meat just to see what I’ll do with it….

by TylerG on Mar 16, 2009 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed

Yea man. I have no problem with OFB but I’ll be honest- that post was weird and made me uncomfortable.

-shwedy

by shwedy on Mar 16, 2009 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think fans are a vital part of an organization/team and therefore have the right to use we. Especially right now, (barring recent struggles) the home crowd at the phone booth has helped the team, so how can you fault people for feeling so connected to the team?

by Ovechwin on Mar 16, 2009 3:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Not only that...(redux, sorta)

But as people who contribute their hard-earned money into the team, I personally believe that that brings us into the fold, as well. We don’t ultimately foot the bill, necessarily, but we all take on an owner-esque role in a sense by funding the team. I think “we” is correct.

by DrinkingPartner on Mar 16, 2009 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t know if I’d go that far. I mean, I bought an xbox but that doesn’t make me feel like I’m a part of Microsoft.

by David Getz on Mar 16, 2009 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m just referencing sports teams not Microsoft et. al corporations.

by Ovechwin on Mar 16, 2009 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know, I was referring to Drinking Partner’s “we all take on an owner-esque role in a sense by funding the team” comment.

by David Getz on Mar 16, 2009 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

He said team so I don’t see a problem with the statement.

by Ovechwin on Mar 16, 2009 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just clarifying that I was referring to his comment.

But what I was getting at was that I don’t really think it’s the case we as fans have an owner-like role. Fans aren’t financiers the way ownership is. It’s not our names on the paycheck; not us who is ultimately responsible for coming up with the cash to make payroll or managing the teams assets and liabilities. As fans, we’re primarily consumers. Consequently our money does go to financing payroll, stadium maintenance, and so on but that’s only after it has been exchanged for a good.

I’m not saying the ownership or the players should spurn the fans, I’m just saying that the fact the money given to the team is in exchange for them providing a good makes us consumers more than owner-esque financiers.

by David Getz on Mar 16, 2009 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think that the business view is the critical difference between us as fans and them as part of the organization.

The business aspect of it isn’t the driving force behind our loyalty. With few exceptions, the people that work for the team are loyal because they get paid by the team. Sure, loyalty can grow out of extended stays with the team/city etc. but fans are loyal for a completely different reason than the “we” that is the organization.

I understand “we”, especially since fans are so completely invested in the team, but our role is so different than the organizations, I’m not sure it fits.

by Sct112 on Mar 16, 2009 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nice column Pepper.

I’ve been a Caps fan since I was 8. My heart has gone through so much heartbreak I believe I’m part the Caps.

 I use ‘WE’ when I talk about the caps because I’ve been so emotionally invested in them for over 20 years,and being 28 their are not a lot of things I can say I’ve held onto for that long. With the exception of my family, a few friends and the Redskins, I don’t think I’ve ever cared about something so hard and for so damn long.

We did the ‘boys night out’ when we were kids to go see the Caps.
We did the family trip to see the Caps (always the Jan 1st game)
I got to go with my bro to games with his friends when he was in HS and I was much younger (not always but he’d let me tag a long)
I remember graduating from High School and my favorite gift was the Eastern Conference Champions Hat (although the $ was nice)
I remember being skeptical of taking a girl on a date to a Caps game for fear she’d think I was a huge dork (which I am) for yelling too much; but refused (too cheap) to let the tickets go to waste . She’s was the only girl I’ve ever taken to a Caps game— ended up marrying her.

Point is, the Caps have been a part of my life as long as I can remember.

So I wouldn’t say I’m a part of the Caps, but I would say the Caps are a part of me.

by vt caps fan on Mar 16, 2009 3:51 PM EDT reply actions   3 recs

I would say that we’re a part of them, in some ways. Not literally a part of the team, but they’ve said it themselves. We’re the 7th man. They love the fans and the building – sometimes a little too much. It’s our investment of time, money, and energy that makes the organization go ’round.

"It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees." - Delores Ibarruri

by gotsparkly on Mar 16, 2009 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Being a relatively new Caps fan (I joined the bandwagon during the rise last season), I have to honestly say that hockey was never something I thought much about until last year. Now, I wonder how I ever lived without it. Following the Caps is a big part of my life right now, and I don’t foresee that changing any time soon.

More than that, though – I have a very real sense that CapsNation is a family. Dysfunctional, sure. Happy? Not always – we fratch back and forth. But that jersey, the weagle on the shoulder, really does denote a sort of family identity, a sort of fraternity. It’s what makes you hug and hifive and fist-bump complete strangers for no other reason than that your team just won and you’re wearing the same color jersey. :) For example, a bunch of us were parked in a bar in Clarendon one night watching the game, and there was another girl there in a Fedorov jersey, all by herself. Nobody at the table thought twice about inviting her over to the table, to join us, introductions went around, and we went back to the game. We’ve stayed in touch and hang out with Kim sometimes; we’ve even driven up to Hershey once as a group.

I’ve caught myself using “we” a few times to refer to the team. I try to correct myself consciously, knowing that I’m not actually a member … but I think it’s fair to say that the team and the people are a part of us and we’re a part of them. You know we’re a part of them every time you see Ovi cup his hand to his ear or someone throw a puck over the glass.

"It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees." - Delores Ibarruri

by gotsparkly on Mar 16, 2009 4:39 PM EDT reply actions  

Went to my first Caps game at 5, and they’ve been a part of my life ever since. They have inspired a loyalty in me that no other team has (with the exception of Maryland, since i’m a graduate of that fine institution).

Ron and Fez Noon to Three

by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 16, 2009 4:54 PM EDT reply actions  

I went to BU for undergrad, and we won the nat’l hockey championship while I was there. But I never felt as attached to the Terriers as I did to the Caps. Even during the championship game, I was watching the ticker for Caps updates (pre-Internet…)

One thing about being a serious Caps fan is that it’s a risk – not only did the team normally disappoint, but it was unpopular even in DC. You would get laughed at for being a hockey fan growing up here. If you live in Montreal, you’re a Habs fan, yeah, that’s tough, going out on a limb there. But being a Caps fan – there weren’t many of us, and in a Redskins’ town, you had to defend your allegiance and know you were always going to be in the tiny, tiny minority. Maybe that’s what makes us even more fanatical now that the rest of the city is starting to catch on.

by katzistan on Mar 16, 2009 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

I went to my first game when I was 9 and have been a fan since. As soon as I got out of high school I bought my STs. If I could, I would literally just follow the team around. That whole mortgage thing gets in the way though.

My mood is obviously affected by wins and losses. Over the last 3 years I have taken the losses pretty hard but this year (for some reason) I don’t as so much. I guess when you are a winning team and your pretty sure you will make the playoffs, losing don’t sting as much.

In terms of my identity-being a Caps fan is a big part of that. Anyone who works with me or is friends with me knows it big time.

As far as the “Caps Family”. I think if you sit in the same section you have your game buddies but you can also have people that absolutely drive you nuts. But winning cures all. Winning big games can certainly cause me to high five and interact with all the people around me. I’m pretty sure I hugged some dude after Bradley scored that SO goal vs the Oil last year.

I say “we” all the time. If “we” could just do this, or that, “we” blew it tonight. So, guilty as charged on that.

It feels good to be able to sit through all those “bad” years and see the team come through like they have. And I think for those of us who have been following the team since then, feel that and it’s special.

I think the comments from Bruce and Alzner about how loud the building is can certainly make us feel “apart” of the team" like gotsparkly said the 7th man.

-shwedy

by shwedy on Mar 16, 2009 4:54 PM EDT reply actions  

Love this post

It makes me a little nostalgic and is inducing me to go on a bit about my circumstances as a Caps fan, so bear with me anyone that reads.

I grew up in Dallas and moved to Washington in the summer of 1994. At the time, I wasn’t much of a hockey fan though I did love playing NHL 93/94 on Sega and had watched a few Stars games (they had just moved to Dallas). The only team I really cared about in any sport was the Cowboys. But my parents got the family one of the 10-game ticket packs for the Caps as a way of getting us to do something together and connect with the area. We did those 10-game plans for the first 2 years. My parents’ plan worked, and the whole family became huge fans. I still remember my brother, dad and I out in Landover as Nedved scored in the 4th OT. It was just a taste of what being a Caps fan was all about.

While I would probably already have been a Caps fan for life, the deal was sealed in the 97-98 season. My brother went off to college and my parents and I had season tickets that year. It was a special one, of course, between the move to the (then) MCI Center and the magical playoff run. I was there for Hasek throwing the blocker. I saw the Wings celebrate on our ice. That sealed the deal for me.

I moved away to Atlanta for college (where I picked up baseball and the Braves) and then to NYC after that. I’ve lived in New York for 6 years now, and don’t root for a single local team. In fact, due to my (waning) Cowboys/Braves and (deepening) Caps allegiances, I hate pretty much every team in town except for basketball.

My parents still live in DC and have been full STHs for the Caps for 10 years now. The Caps are quite literally and integral part of my family’s communication structure. Every time we talk, first it’s how we are doing, then it’s significant others, then it’s the Caps. They are my strongest remaining bond to the DC area, which I consider my “home” despite the relatively short amount of time that I lived there. They are once again the sports team I care the most about. And thanks to the Rink (and Red Skate!), they are what I spend most of my online leisure time reading/commenting about.

And if the Caps go deep into the playoffs, maybe I’ll see you on the Acela, Pepper.

by grapejoos on Mar 16, 2009 5:19 PM EDT reply actions   2 recs

I moved away to Atlanta for college (where I picked up baseball and the Braves)

Emory?

by David Getz on Mar 16, 2009 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Neato. I went to Oglethorpe and Georgia State, but I spent a lot of time at Emory b/c I was dating someone there are the time.

by David Getz on Mar 16, 2009 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nice. I spent some time at GA State my freshman year because a friend went there (he transferred to Tech). They had pretty nice dorms (at the time), because they were the converted athletes’ village from the 96 Olympics.

Also, my roommate all 4 years of college was from Pittsburgh. Who says you can’t get along with the enemy? :)

by grapejoos on Mar 16, 2009 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

My brother went to Emory and I was a whisker away from going there for law school.

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by J.P. on Mar 16, 2009 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

I liked the school alright and IMO Atlanta is a great place to live. Really good weather all spring and fall, decent winters, great food, relaxed people. It has its warts but honestly, if not for the Caps, I would sooner move back to ATL than DC. That should say something about being a Caps fan.

by grapejoos on Mar 16, 2009 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Also, you have to drive everywhere in Atlanta. I always hated that.

by David Getz on Mar 16, 2009 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

True story, and the traffic there is horrendous. I believe DC is ranked worse statistically, but in my experience it was worse as a driver. Every surface street gets jammed because there are no left turn lanes and almost all of them are 2 lanes wide max.

I like driving, but I like having the freedom to only drive on special occasions (and still get around just fine) even more.

by grapejoos on Mar 16, 2009 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

What changed your mind?

by Rob Parker on Mar 16, 2009 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

A dame. :)

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by J.P. on Mar 16, 2009 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s funny, that’s one of the things that too me to Atlanta. Hopefully it worked out better for you than me.

by David Getz on Mar 16, 2009 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, he used the smiley emoticon instead of the brains on the wall emoticon…

by Rob Parker on Mar 17, 2009 1:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Been hanging around Something Awful, have you?

by David Getz on Mar 17, 2009 1:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

It has – she’s my lovely wife and baby’s mama.

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by J.P. on Mar 17, 2009 7:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks for sharing grapejoos, great stuff.

by Stephen Pepper on Mar 16, 2009 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

That is a great, great post.

Thanks, Pepper. Have spent a lot of time thinking about why being a fan of the Caps affects me so much. As others have noted, nothing the Caps do has any relation to my relationships, work life, income, etc. I have no influence on anything they do. And yet, 9 months of the year, if the Caps are on tv, that’s what we’re doing. If the Caps are playing at Verizon, that’s where we are. If I have a shitload of work to do (like now), I’m reading a Caps blog. Why?

A while ago, I came up with “drama”. That’s gotta be it, right? I mean, humans are naturally attracted to stories, and the good thing about sports is that there’s a different ending every time. But then, I don’t really care about any team other than the Caps in any sport, and I’m certainly not emotionally invested in them. A lot of people talk about the community, and while we’re season ticket holders this year for the first time in my life after 30 years of fan-dom, I don’t really have any other hockey fan friends. When I can’t go to games, I often find it even tough to find takers at work. (I have Caps paraphernelia all over my office, and sometimes new coworkers will come in and say, “Who are the Caps?”. Ugh.)

Whatever, it is what it is. Grew up in Wheaton and lived abroad for 10 years working on international development programs (have a picture of Bishkek Caps Fan Club – two of us in Caps jerseys in front of Lenin statue there), then married a native Russian-speaking Korean girl from Uzbekistan – pretty damn far away from hockey awareness. We moved back to DC in Sept 05, and went to Ovie’s first game, where he scored twice. Now she’s a die hard Caps fan, uses “we” to refer to the Caps (and I don’t discourage her), sports her Ovechkin jersey or Caps sweatshirt or baseball hat whenever we’re out of the house, knows all the players by number, yells obscenities at the tv during Caps power plays, and watches the games even when I’m away (like now) – she even pointed the webcam at the tv so I could watch the game on Saturday… (She also pronounces all the Russian players names correctly, like Koz-LOV and FYO-dorov.)

Not sure how I’d be able to survive a marriage any other way – hockey is 9 months of the year after all – but I take pride in the fact that I created at least one new Caps fan. Actually, another friend of hers (from Turkmenistan, coworker of mine) is splitting our season tickets with us, so there’s another.

Anyway, fact is, as you can tell Caps are a huge part of my identity. Ruins my day when they lose (though not this year as much as previous ones), and if they blow the playoffs this year, it’s not going to be fun to be around me.

But would like to say this – this is probably the best blog ever, and it’s awesome to be part of this online family.

Now about Schultz…

by katzistan on Mar 16, 2009 5:53 PM EDT reply actions   2 recs

I’m with you all the way on missing out on the society of fans. I’d be lying if I said I haven’t been thinking a lot lately about moving back to DC- and I’d be lying again if I said the main reason wasn’t to be closer to the team and everything about it. I too have made a number of friends through being a Caps fan, and I wonder if I hadn’t done that before

I left DC- maybe I’d have never left! My non-Caps loving friends know way more about the team than they ever thought they would, and I’ve even been able to add a couple fans along the way.

I could keep going, so to keep a long story short, the Caps are a much larger part of my life than is probably healthy.

And I would love if we could do more NYC fan stuff. :)

by sonia on Mar 16, 2009 7:02 PM EDT reply actions  

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