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"Bad ice probably plays into our hands better than into their hands with their skills guys, so, if anything, it was an advantage for us."

- Panthers head coach Peter DeBoer, via WashingtonCaps.com (video)

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If they don’t do something about the ice, you have to wonder if it will start to scare away potential free agents. If an FA look at what’s happened to Clark, Poti, Semin, etc. will they think twice about possibly jeapordizing their careers with a long-term injury? Poti’s comments were about as blunt a shot at management as I’ve heard a player make in a long time.

by b.orr4 on Feb 8, 2009 10:00 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

Big ups to this comment. I was thinking the same.

by TylerG on Feb 8, 2009 11:44 AM EST up reply actions  

Agreed completely. Players talk about these things (if they even have to at this point).

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by J.P. on Feb 8, 2009 12:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Semin’s injuries have not had anything to do with the ice. He sprained an ankle and hurt his back. It is the groins that we worry about with bad ice. The list is still ugly as it has claimed some notoriously good skaters: Clark, Poti, Friesen. I’m not sure the concern about the ice is really enough to scare off free agents, though. For one, we are not going to be in the market for big name free agents any time soon with the talent we have to resign. Second, people may be concerned about the ice but when they think about the idea of playing with AO, Green, Baxter, Semin, and under BB’s open and aggressive system I will get over it. My concern is more about protecting our players (Ted’s investments) than it is about any FA concerns.

by Rob Parker on Feb 8, 2009 6:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Its got to be something the Ted takes up with the scheduling at the VC.

A basketball game that doesn’t end until 3 hours before the players are warming up will never allow for good ice. The arena can never cool down enough for the ice to stay hard. It will only get worse as the Spring comes on.

I’m interested to see what if any response we get from the front office on this.

by Sct112 on Feb 8, 2009 10:17 AM EST reply actions  

On the plus side, the Wiz season ends April 13 and G’town’s obviously done well before that. Between April 15 and June 6, there’s nothing on the (published) VC schedule right now other than a Springsteen concert in May.

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by J.P. on Feb 8, 2009 10:36 AM EST up reply actions  

Look at the VC event schedule— no more Georgetown before Caps, but there is a 1 pm Harlem Globetrotter game on Saturday, March 14th with the Caps playing the Canes at 7 pm.

by NovaCath on Feb 8, 2009 10:53 AM EST up reply actions  

At least that will never go into overtime :)

by Sct112 on Feb 8, 2009 4:21 PM EST up reply actions  

I think it’s going to take more than an empty calendar for the VC ice to be ‘good’ once it starts warming up outside…

by TylerG on Feb 8, 2009 12:18 PM EST up reply actions  

no doubt, but if they can turn down the heat/up the air and make it 60 rather than 80 in the arena it will matter a lot.

by Sct112 on Feb 8, 2009 4:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Can we just kick out the Hoyas

GW plays at their own campus, why can’t Georgetown? What wankers.

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by jobe on Feb 8, 2009 5:21 PM EST up reply actions  

- Hey Pete, I need a favor.

- Sure Bruce, what do you need.

- If you do this for me, I’ll really owe you one. Look, can you give a quote to the press after the game? The ice here today is really awful, and I want to get some attention to it…

by Gould Old Days on Feb 8, 2009 12:02 PM EST reply actions  

If we hear from Anderson after Atlanta’s next visit I think you are on to something.

by Cap74 on Feb 9, 2009 2:14 AM EST up reply actions  

it is pretty bad that opposing coaches say our bad ice is helping them. so much for home ice advantage. I know that there are few more conflicts this year, but it is something that has to be addressed.

by nuftjedi on Feb 8, 2009 12:04 PM EST reply actions  

I to be fair, I don’t think DeBoer believed it was a boon in any way. I think he was just going out of his way to not use it as an excuse, which is admirable.

That doesn’t change the Briere comment, of course, which is enough as it is.

by brs03 on Feb 8, 2009 12:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Well, Ted has just weighed in on his blog…

"I was concerned about the conditions of the ice last night as it was unseasonably warm and there was a Georgetown basketball game that went into OT in the afternoon. The building staff has to really hustle to get the ice in game ready condition when this happens.

I asked our coaches about it after the game and they weren’t as displeased as I would have thought although I just read Tom Poti’s comments and am very concerned.

We are truly working these matters. We are very detailed about what we need to do as to temperature, timing, humidity and the like.

One of the things we will have to consider doing is not having any activities on the ice between intermissions. That extra 2 to 3 minutes may help us treat the ice. We are looking into this as a development now as well.

We are on it as is the building. We are looking at issues such as the building scheduling basketball games on our afternoons too although Georgetown has a schedule and is a tenant in the building and pays rent. And while the building tries to schedule their games before Wizards games, coordinating NHL, NBA and NCAA is an art not a science.

We are doing our best. We are making progress but we want to have great ice NOT acceptable ice and I hear Tom Poti loud and clear."

by cuqui on Feb 8, 2009 4:06 PM EST reply actions  

1) Yeah Ted hears Poti ‘loud and clear’. We bet Tom will be getting an ear full of Fat Ted loud and clear to not make such statements publicly in the future.
2) This is far from the first caps player to make such statements as JP has been keen to remind us. Almost a year since the last such proclomation and nothing has changed.
3) Yeah it was warm yesterday for February, but its not like it was 95. No excuse for the ice being in this condition the rest of the year!

by Fauxrumors on Feb 8, 2009 9:21 PM EST reply actions  

The ad hominem attack is unnecessary.

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by J.P. on Feb 9, 2009 6:44 AM EST up reply actions  

Huh? The reply was in support of your earlier comments JP

by Fauxrumors on Feb 9, 2009 7:57 AM EST up reply actions  

The attack wasn’t on me. Refer to bullet number one.

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by J.P. on Feb 9, 2009 8:12 AM EST up reply actions  

Another scheduling thought, and imagine that TV drives this, but why are games on Saturdays at 7? Especially when there is a game in the arena earlier in the day. Moving the game to 8 seems like an easy way to make a difference without any cost or infrastructure changes…

Also, DeBoer is right, it probably hurts the Caps more, except that we should all be thankful that major on Mo didn’t come at the start of the period and came at the end. Bad ice will hurt any powerplay more than it would hurt the kill.

by Sct112 on Feb 9, 2009 8:37 AM EST reply actions  


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