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Is Fehr The New Flash?

"...You give guys chances and it's up to them to seize the moment, take it and run with it. And not be known as a guy who is a good player and who has potential. I hope [Eric Fehr] seizes the moment and proves, like Tomas Fleischmann did, that he's a solid NHL player." - Bruce Boudreau, via Capitals Insider

In the wake of the news that Chris Clark is likely going to spend the rest of this season on Long Term Injured Reserve, we here at Japers' Rink (and when I say we, I include visitors and not just those of us who write stories) discussed what the Capitals should do with their new-found salary cap and roster space.  As coach of the team, Bruce Boudreau doesn't necessarily have that luxury, and instead opted to (as a coach should) paint Clark's injury as an opportunity for a promising young player on the team to establish himself, saying he wanted Eric Fehr to prove himself in the way Tomas Fleischmann had already done.

The comparison immediately struck me as a fair one; I have found myself thinking Fehr's flashes of talent, and his inability to seem to put it all together and produce at the rate he seems capable of, are eerily reminiscent of last year's Tomas Fleischmann on more than one occasion.  As with Fleischmann, Fehr's overall talent isn't the question - you don't score 109 goals in your last 142 WHL games and average better than a goal every other game in the AHL at 21 without a decent amount of skill - but rather he will be able to harness the talent and become a productive NHL player.  On his part, Fehr seems to be ready to take advantage of the opportunity, notching a goal and an assist in Tuesday night's win in Newark.

Of course, anecdotal observations are one thing and statistics are quite another.  Here's how Fehr's 2008-09 production stacks up with Fleischmann, both for this season and 2007-08:



AgeGPGAP+/-PIMPPGSHGGWGSOGPCTTOI
Tomas Fleischmann, 2007-08
23 75
10
20 30
-7
18 1
0
1
107
.093
946:40
Tomas Fleischmann, 2008-09
24 43
15
10 25
-6
12 6
0
4
83
.181
652:05
Eric Fehr, 2008-09
23 31
5
8 13
4
14 1 0
1
70
.071
340:19

Pretty decent comparison, isn't it? But look what happens if you look a little deeper into the numbers, starting with Time On Ice, where the last table left off.



TOITOI/GPP TOI/GProdG/60A/60P/60QCPQTM
Tomas Fleischmann, 2007-08
946:40 12:37 1:39 31:33 .64 1.27 1.90 -0.01 -0.15
Tomas Fleischmann, 2008-09
652:05 15:09 2:47 26:08 1.38 .92 2.30 0.02 0.09
Eric Fehr, 2008-09
340:19 10:58 0:57 26:14 .88 1.41 2.29 0.02 -0.23

By the numbers, Fehr does pretty well for himself.   Thus far in 08-09 Fehr has more goals, assists, and points per sixty minutes than Fleischmann did last year and more goals and points per game despite playing less often and with less-skilled teammates. His plus-four is also markedly better than Fleischmann's minus-seven from last year.  Even comparing Fehr to Flash this season, in what's supposed to be Fleischmann's breakout year, doesn't leave Fehr too far behind: he's racking up points at nearly the rate as Fleischmann despite averaging significantly less powerplay time and significantly less-skilled linemates.  Fehr's also way ahead this season when it comes to plus-minus, which is especially impressive given his linemates don't tend to score very often.

What do you make of the Fehr-Fleischmann comparison?  Is Fehr right now at a comparable point to where Fleischmann was a season ago?  And, more importantly, can Fehr make the same kind of leap Flash has and be a legitimate top-six NHL forward next season?

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Guess we’ll find out what Fehrsie’s made of tonight. Per Tarik and Bruce, he’ll skate with Fedorov and Ovechkin tonight. Don’t think he doesn’t know that this is his great golden chance.

I’m both nervous and cautiously optimistic. if nothing else, it’ll be interesting.

by gotsparkly on Feb 5, 2009 12:29 PM EST reply actions  

+1

Excellent first comment on the threat, gotsparkly. Very timely.

by David Getz on Feb 5, 2009 12:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Appropos of, well, everything in this post, in his first 31 games last year, Flash had 5 goals, 10 assists, a -5 rating and 49 shots on goal.

In fact, on this date a year ago, Flash had 6 goals, 13 assists and a -5 rating… in 49 games.

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by J.P. on Feb 5, 2009 12:35 PM EST reply actions  

1) Interesting comparison. Those who have written off Fehr already should take note of your comparison. Unfortunately for Fehr his serious back injury coupled with high expectations (sandwiched between Zac Parise and Ryan Getzlaf) have not helped
2) The team is probably going to use the next couple of months to evaluate him to see if he is in their plans after his entry level deal is up.

by Fauxrumors on Feb 5, 2009 12:45 PM EST reply actions  

It’s easy to compare these two because they’re both young, both produced at other levels, and Flash represents the leap that we hope all our young players take. But they play such different games. Even when Fehr has been ringing posts and taking wristers from the circles (in other words, not producing), his forechecking and work in the corners are miles above Flash. For Flash it was a matter of getting used to the speed and the physical nature of the NHL. Fehr looks like he’s got the physical part down. He’s learning to keep up, and starting to get his shot back. I’m very interested to see how he does tonight with all that ice time on the first line.

by treat on Feb 5, 2009 12:48 PM EST reply actions  

Something about that quote at the top hasn’t sat 100% well with me, and I think I figured out why. When Gabby says he hopes Fehr seizes this opportunity and “proves, like Tomas Fleischmann did, that he’s a solid NHL player,” it sounds like he wants/expects Fehr 2009 to be Flash 2009, not Flash 2008.

Fact of the matter is Fehr’s developmentally and experientially behind Flash 2009, and pretty much pacing (or even out-pacing) Flash 2008 (as laid out in the post).

So my question is, what’s the real – and realistic – expectation right now for Fehr? Flash 2008 or Flash 2009?

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by J.P. on Feb 5, 2009 12:50 PM EST reply actions  

When Gabby says he hopes Fehr seizes this opportunity and "proves, like Tomas Fleischmann did, that he’s a solid NHL player," it sounds like he wants/expects Fehr 2009 to be Flash 2009, not Flash 2008.

Honestly, the fact that I couldn’t figure out which year he meant was part of the reason I included both 2008 and 2009 for Fleischmann.

On the one hand, Flash has been much better this year. On the other hand, Boudreau seemed hellbent on sticking with him last year, so…

I think Flash ‘09 is a realistic expectation for Fehr this year – he’s putting up points nearly as often and has a better plus/minus despite playing with weaker teammates. Get him in there on a regular basis, with some good teammates, I bet he could score at a 20-goal, 50-point pace.

by David Getz on Feb 5, 2009 12:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Im sure Ovie told him this…

“When I tap my stick on the ice…Give me the puck.”

by SA-Town on Feb 5, 2009 12:51 PM EST reply actions  

"When I tap my stick on the ice…Give me the puck."

there we go. a little broken English and it rings true.

by ns on Feb 5, 2009 12:54 PM EST up reply actions  

“Give me unbelievable pass. Sick.”

There we go.

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by J.P. on Feb 5, 2009 1:17 PM EST up reply actions  

For what it's worth:

For a good portion of the first half of the season last year the Caps were the worst team in hockey. Just about everyone was stinking it up, Flash included. The first half this year is a very different story.

I’m still not sure how much weight I put in that statement but it should be noted.

by Sct112 on Feb 5, 2009 1:02 PM EST reply actions  

Yes, the Caps were very terrible pre-Turkey Day last year, but that also meant more opportunities for guys (see Flash’s PP time, for example).

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by J.P. on Feb 5, 2009 1:21 PM EST up reply actions  

It’s an interesting and valid comparison, certainly, but I think all we can take from it is “don’t give up on him yet.” What Flash did was great, but if it was an easy thing to do I don’t think we’d all be so impressed. More players like 2008 Flash disappear into obscurity than find their wheels like 2009 Flash did. I still have hope for Fehr, though.

That said, his play tonight will say a lot more to me than the previous few games. When Backstrom was centering him Fehr was getting a few free beautiful opportunities a game courtesy of the Swede. On this line I’m interesting to see if he’ll show up or just disappear into the woodwork next to guys like Ovie and Feds.

Here’s to hoping!

by vi on Feb 5, 2009 1:07 PM EST reply actions  

I’d be happy if Flash was the new Flash. 2 points in the last 7 games.

by bilspacecadet on Feb 5, 2009 1:11 PM EST reply actions  

Yeah, I was about to make the point that 2009 Flash hasn’t been setting the world ablaze lately, though he is on a 28-goal pace still.

I’m not sure what the ceiling is on Flash (30 goals?), but wouldn’t you think Fehr’s is higher (as a goal scorer, at least)?

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by J.P. on Feb 5, 2009 1:20 PM EST up reply actions  

I’d have to think that Fehr could outscore Flash.

Fehr has the size to score more dirty goals than flash, and historically has a wicked wrister that would let him score more perimeter goals. That back injury clearly impacted his shot, which seems like its finally coming back.

by Sombrero Guy on Feb 5, 2009 1:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Filling Out

While I agree that the two players might be following similar development paths, it’s pretty problematic to compare two such diverse players, especially two whose deficiencies are so different.

Flash is a great skater, and everything he’s got builds off of his wheels. He also has a pretty damn soft pair of hands. Until this year, he’s never really coupled these two things together effectively in the NHL. On the other hand, he’s not great defensively, occasionally makes poor decisions with the puck and doesn’t consistently go to high-traffic areas with vigor. Ultimately, for Flash to reach his potential, he needs to gain more confidence while cleaning up his defensive play – he’s never going to be a corner-basher, which means that he needs to score in the NHL, or else he’s just another Alexandre Giroux.

Fehr is not a great skater, and lacks Flash’s stick skills. To my eyes, he has a better shot, but the difference doesn’t seem significant. What Fehr has is a big, projectable frame and a willingness to go into the corners and in front of the net. He’s also strong defensively and knows when to make the simple play when it’s the right one. In other words, Fehr can play consistently outside of the top-six and still contribute, which is something Flash can’t do.

The downside to this is that his capacity for playing as a grinder might be stunting his growth as a scoring threat. As Nylander has shown, the only way to score is to get ice time, preferably power play ice time. Fehr has been caught in a bad situation all year. He can’t be sent down to Hershey, where he could get the ice time he needs to develop, but he can’t score consistently enough in DC to warrant more top-level ice time. From watching his work in the corners and in front of the net, he looks like he also needs to add some core/leg strength.

This is where his injuries really hurt him – developmentally, he should be playing in the AHL, but contractually, he has to be with the Caps, and since he’s capable of mucking and grinding, he bounces around between the third and fourth lines. Unfortunately, Clark’s injury doesn’t really open up a top-line spot for Fehr, and it’s unlikely that Kozlov will be out for long enough for him to get a really good look.

I think that Fehr’s development will probably look more like Laich’s. He’s going to bounce around the bottom lines, occasionally seeing scoring line/power play duty. His upside is likely higher, but his ability to crash, bang and play defense will probably (almost paradoxically) keep him from getting consistent top-six ice time. Unless he gets more PP time, or consistent playing time with a good playmaking center like Backstrom, his shooting percentage is never going to reach the 18.3% he had during his last year in Hershey and consequently, his goal totals will stay low.

by D'ohboy on Feb 5, 2009 1:26 PM EST reply actions   3 recs

Rec’d for effort alone. Now I’ll read it…

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by J.P. on Feb 5, 2009 1:32 PM EST up reply actions  

I think the Fehr/Laich comparison is a good one in terms of playing style. Hopefully Fehr can add some scoring touch, especially on the PP, to his solid defensive ability.

by David Getz on Feb 5, 2009 2:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Agree

I would hope that Fehr has a little more upside being that he’s always been a prolific scorer, where Laich has not, and he’s a big body as well. Really reminds me more of a grittier Kozlov.

by wittcap79 on Feb 5, 2009 3:02 PM EST up reply actions  

If Fehr becomes a younger Kozlov this season and next, I’ll take it and run. Mind you that one would hope Fehr’s playoff production would be better.

by gotsparkly on Feb 5, 2009 3:05 PM EST up reply actions  

We won’t really know until he starts getting some real TOI. Up around the 15+min mark. It’s pretty hard to evaluate a guy on 10min a game. I will be watching intently to see how he does tonight, should be up around 18+min at least. I’m hoping he doesn’t become awestruck with the two legends he’s playing with.

by wittcap79 on Feb 5, 2009 3:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Speaking of, from over on SS:

Is Fehr The New Laich?

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by J.P. on Feb 6, 2009 7:38 AM EST up reply actions  

I’ve been thinking this for awhile now and I do think that Fehr is showing the signs of last year’s Flash. I’m interested to see what Fehr does with the rest of the season and his “golden opportunity” tonight with Feds and Ovechkin. The potential is there, it’s up to Fehr to unleash it, and that may not happen until the 09-10 season, much like Flash.

by CapitalsKremlin on Feb 5, 2009 1:37 PM EST reply actions  

I believe the Fehr/Flash comparison is a good one as both are young players who making the transition to the NHL. Fehr also has shown how it takes him a season to adjust before adjusting and unfortunately he lost a year of development to injury with coincided with his entry level deal ending so he’s had to stay with the big club as an extra forward this year which isn’t the most ideal considering the lost year.

I really believe (and hope) that he’s turning the corner. Even before the recent points he was starting to draw penalties and getting chances. I know some will simply site point production but Fehr was getting decent shots/positions. What would have scared me more was if he was invisible out there which I think we all can attest there were stretches of many games last year when Flash was invisible.

If Fehr does prove he’s turning the corner after this season is over it is going to provide some flexibility for GMGM for next year.

Regarding the 2003 NHL draft hindsight 20/20 junk… NJ traded up and grabbed Parise the pick before the Capitals. I still wonder who the Capitals would have picked if Parise was still there. Getzlaf slid about that draft. I believe he was projected in the 11-15 range and slid for whatever reason. He was definitely a ‘bigger’ name that was available. At the time didn’t really favor picking Getzlaf but was still surprised at the Fehr picked which I warmed up to after Fehr scored 50 goals that next season and then 59 the season after. Getzlaf scored 28 and 29 respectively though admittedly only in 49 and 51 games. All that aside Getzlaf has really turned into a good NHL’er ultimately. Considering how well the capitals have been drafting since 2002 it is a bit over the top to teeth gnash at this point, heh.

I’m still annoyed at the snake draft of 2005. Capitals should have had a top 5 pick. Pretty much a weak draft though looking back at the picks. Wanted Kopitar but he went at #11.

by usiel on Feb 5, 2009 1:51 PM EST reply actions   3 recs

Another one rec’d on effort alone!

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by J.P. on Feb 5, 2009 1:53 PM EST up reply actions  

On Getzlaf -

Central Scouting had Getzlaf as the #5 North American skater (PDF). Parise was 9th, Fehr 16th.

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by J.P. on Feb 5, 2009 1:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Good points - Rec'd, but. . .

. . . If the Caps had really scored all of these players, where would they put them all? It would be awesome to have a team with Ovie, Getzlaf, Semin, Green, et. al., but the contractual obligations would be onerous, to say nothing of the ice-time headaches.

I think the lesson is, you win some (Green, Carlson) and you lose some (Pokulok), and the jury is still out on others (Schultz, Fehr). As long as you win more than you lose, and you can pick up totally serviceable players off the free agent scrapheap (STECKEL!!!, Collins, Sloan), you can keep re-stocking. Imagine how many teams are kicking themselves for passing up on Mike Green?

by D'ohboy on Feb 5, 2009 2:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Well, if the Caps had picked and played Getzlaf, they probably would have taken themselves out of the running for Backstrom and Alzner, no?

And the 2005 draft was the biggest joke ever (well, among NHL drafts, at a minimum), highlighted by the unfunniest of punchlines. Sigh.

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by J.P. on Feb 5, 2009 2:06 PM EST up reply actions  

True

If in 8 years the Caps’ cup-contention window closes and they have come up empty-handed, then maybe we can look back at 2005 as the turning point. Right now, I think it’s probably healthier (and a lot more fun) to sit back and enjoy just how thoroughly bad-ass this team is right now.

by D'ohboy on Feb 5, 2009 2:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Pokulok’s performance aside, I don’t know enough about the 2005 draftees to know who should have been selected instead but no one between Sahsa and Finley leaps out at me as an obviously better choice. But then again, I don’t know much.

Was Kovalchuk available?

If it ain't broke, don't break it.

by ChrisAm on Feb 5, 2009 2:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Kovalchuk was #1 overall in 2001.

by David Getz on Feb 5, 2009 3:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Semin and Morrisonn

for Kovalchoooooooooooooooooooook!

by wittcap79 on Feb 5, 2009 3:12 PM EST up reply actions  

i love the crazy train :) lets throw in a Pronger steal to the mix. sweetness.

by ns on Feb 5, 2009 3:40 PM EST up reply actions  

or Komisarek :)

by ns on Feb 5, 2009 3:41 PM EST up reply actions  

I know

Just making fun of myself for my man love fixation for Kovy.

If it ain't broke, don't break it.

by ChrisAm on Feb 5, 2009 3:15 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree with all your points, except one. For me, the jury isn’t still out of Schultz. He’s a good player. Not good enough to justify being taken ahead of Mike Green, but good.

by David Getz on Feb 5, 2009 2:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Ok, I’ll grant you that. I think he’s got some potential left in him though, and I’m waiting to see if he reaches it. A couple of summers in the gym doing Cross-Fit and working with a power-skating coach would work wonders for that guy.

by D'ohboy on Feb 5, 2009 2:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Agreed

Right now I see Schultz as a good #4 defenseman, but I think his high-end potential is as half of a quality shutdown pairing.

by David Getz on Feb 5, 2009 2:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Sarge is the type of player who, when you watch him on the ice, just doesn’t look good because he’s all arms and legs. Then you look at the game summary and he’s a plus player. For the record, Jeff is a +14 for the season. Among defensemen only Green has a better plus/minus.

by b.orr4 on Feb 5, 2009 2:32 PM EST up reply actions  

… and +31 for his NHL career.

… and +21 for his AHL career.

… and +35 for his WHL career.

Say what you want about +/- as a stat, but I’m buying those numbers as indicative of a very, very solid defenseman.

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by J.P. on Feb 5, 2009 2:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Agree all over

I’m totally positive on Schultz, and I cringe when some of the people in my section berate him while unconditionally singing Erkine’s praises. Still though, the potential is there for him to be much better. He doesn’t need to run around hitting people, or lead the PP rush, but a little more muscle and a half-step in his skating stride would turn him from solid to a potential #1 pairing D-man.

by D'ohboy on Feb 5, 2009 2:45 PM EST up reply actions  

[b – I deleted your FanPost b/c the topic was already covered in a FanShot this morning]

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by J.P. on Feb 5, 2009 2:48 PM EST up reply actions  

I was wondering where the hell that went :-)

by b.orr4 on Feb 5, 2009 3:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Yet Again

Japers’ Rink crushes my workday productivity.

by D'ohboy on Feb 5, 2009 2:15 PM EST reply actions  

Dustin Brown

Ironically, when Fehr lines up at the faceoff circle tonight, he’ll be looking at what he could have been with fewer injuries and more playing time. In 265 games, Dustin Brown, who was drafted five spots ahead of Fehr, has 64 goals and 139 points. I’m sure those are the kind of totals the Caps envisioned for Eric before his injuries. In fact, if you look at the list of everyone drafted before him in 2003, Fehr has played on average about 150 games less. That’s why it’s difficult to give up on him this early in his career. Still, that draft has turned into one hell of a group of stud NHLers (with Fehr the noticeable exception):
http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/draft/nhl2003e.html

by b.orr4 on Feb 5, 2009 2:26 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

My dad and I were talking about that draft just last night, in fact. It’s really staggering how good it was/is and how much of an impact players from that draft have already made.

I hear people talk about the 1979 Draft as the best ever, but this one may end up surpassing it.

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by J.P. on Feb 5, 2009 2:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Agreed, it could be the best ever. Philly getting Carter AND Richards is amazing. Let’s just hope they don’t look back five years from now and point to Fehr as the only dud in the group.

by b.orr4 on Feb 5, 2009 2:43 PM EST up reply actions  

I think Hugh Jessiman has that title wrapped up.

by David Getz on Feb 5, 2009 2:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Damn, I was just about to make that ammendment! Shawn Belle hasn’t exactly torn it up either.

by b.orr4 on Feb 5, 2009 2:47 PM EST up reply actions  

But Jessiman does have the Ivy League education to fall back on.

by b.orr4 on Feb 5, 2009 2:48 PM EST up reply actions  

The “noticeable exception” is not Eric Fehr. Sure, he hasn’t matched up to the guys in that draft yet, but at least he has been injured. Hugh Jessiman is the noticeable exception. And, frankly, Steve Bernier has not been very impressive despite getting all the opportunity in the world to get top 6 minutes, PP ice, and skilled players around him.

by Rob Parker on Feb 5, 2009 3:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Dustin Byfuglien

8th Rounder! I believe some people wanted him to be a part of package for Nyls back in November.

by Scott in Shaw on Feb 5, 2009 5:47 PM EST up reply actions  

me among them, but I question whether he’s got the stamina for BB. Dude is a serious load, though and doesn’t seem that out of sorts with Kane

by bigonetimer on Feb 5, 2009 5:48 PM EST up reply actions  

I would be favor of any reasonable trade that would get big DB here.

by David Getz on Feb 5, 2009 6:10 PM EST up reply actions  

I find it Interesting...

That Fehr has about half the ice time of Flash with only 13 less shots?

Wow, b.orr4 — you’re right — what an incredible draft that was. Would have preferred having Mike Richards on the team after looking at that list.

by zephyr on Feb 5, 2009 2:32 PM EST reply actions  

North American vs. European playing styles

Despite the convergence of the two styles over last 20 years, Euros still prefer to stickhandle and pass to achieve the “perfect shot,” while North Americans are more likely to “grip it and rip it.” Ovie is an obvious exception to the rule (and most people say he plays a “North American” style anyhow).

by D'ohboy on Feb 5, 2009 2:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes, I agree that’s probably a good part of it but I still interesting that it fine tunes into just as many shots with half the playing time.
I guess waiting for the perfect pass or shot is working better for Flash anyway since his shooting% is way better.

by zephyr on Feb 5, 2009 3:24 PM EST up reply actions  

I have to concur that that 2003 NHL Draft was pretty bad @ss.

NYR picking Jessiman was epic fail for sure.

I’m really interested to see how Finley looks next year at the AHL level.

by usiel on Feb 5, 2009 3:04 PM EST reply actions  

My worry is that Flash is going to become the new Pettinger. A guy that has one “breakout” season and then seemingly falls off the face of the planet.
 
I’m hoping Flash really blossoms into a consistent scoring threat next season. That would be sweet.

I have as many wins in a Capitals uniform as Michael Belhumeur does.

by marky narc on Feb 5, 2009 3:16 PM EST reply actions  

What’s worrisome about Flash is the sudden jump in shooting % (to over 18) above his career average (around 10). However, he did have the one year in Hershey where he shot 17%. Pettinger’s stats were more the product of getting ice time that he wouldn’t have earned if he didn’t play on such a God-awful team. (See Clark, Chris).

by D'ohboy on Feb 5, 2009 3:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Agree. Pettinger’s breakout was just a “flash” in the pan because he was on a bad team getting a lot of ice time.

I don’t think it’s fair to say that about Clark though until we see him injury free.

by zephyr on Feb 5, 2009 3:27 PM EST up reply actions  

I think Chris Clark is a great guy, but Rico Fata could have scored 25 goals playing on Ovie’s off-wing. There is nothing in his track record to suggest that he’ll ever score 20-30 goals again unless he plays on a top line and gets significant PP time, and that’s just not going to happen on this team.

by D'ohboy on Feb 5, 2009 3:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Semi-related: do you all realize in what spot Rico Fata was drafted?

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by J.P. on Feb 5, 2009 3:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Bwhaha! I had no clue Fata was drafted that high. Big drop off from 1st to 6th that year.

@D’ohboy:
I think Clark is capable of scoring 20 goals. He is a very hard worker — and I know we haven’t seen it in a long time — but he has a really good shot.
I don’t think it’s that easy to score goals off of Ovi’s wing either esp since the center is going to give him the first look. Kozlov is a good example because skill wise he is great player but has had to really work to get the 10-15 goals he’s gotten so far this season.

by zephyr on Feb 5, 2009 4:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Yep, knew that. Still – he had more games in a cap uniform than this other guy who was drafted 4th overall.
 
(clicking that link may induce rage.)

I have as many wins in a Capitals uniform as Michael Belhumeur does.

by marky narc on Feb 5, 2009 4:39 PM EST up reply actions  

the anti-Ovechkin

Russian Machine Never Breaks

by macvechkin on Feb 5, 2009 5:41 PM EST up reply actions  

1997 Daniel Tkaczuk
1998 Rico Fata
1999 Oleg Saprykin
2000 Brent Krahn
2001 Chuck Kobasew
2002 Eric Nystrom
2004 Kris Chucko
2005 Matt Pelech

Eight 1st Round draft picks, not one solid NHL regular other than Kobasew, who’s a 3rd-liner at best. The next time someone tells you that the only way to build a quality team in the NHL is through the draft, just point to the Flames.

by D'ohboy on Feb 5, 2009 4:17 PM EST up reply actions  

While Pettinger definitely made the most of opporunities he didn’t get before or after, that shoulder injury really derailed his career as well.

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by J.P. on Feb 5, 2009 3:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Fehr succeeding on the top line is very important to the future of the Caps. We need to continue the influx of young players to fill out the roster and allow us to pay our star players.

With Ovechkin – Backstrom – Fehr on line 1, Fleischmann – ??? – Semin on line 2 we are pretty set for a few years there. If Fehr succeeds, we need to fill the 2nd line center spot. Short term options are Nylander and Fedorov, but I still think that should be our focus (….can you say Grachev)

by CapsFanSince1979 on Feb 5, 2009 3:26 PM EST reply actions  

I concur. If Fehr can hang with that top line that is going to save the capitals some money/cap space after this season. Kozlov is an FA this year. Obviously he would be nice to have for shoot outs and what not but…

by usiel on Feb 5, 2009 4:18 PM EST up reply actions  

wow. here I was thinking that it’s great that he’s gotten a couple of goals in back to back games….I think top line is a reach for Fehr, frankly. Hope it works out tonight, but I can’t say I’m holding my breath for a Wally Pipp moment here. : )

I think Eric Fehr is prime trade bait this month. Honestly, it’d have to be as a piece in a larger deal, but it wouldn’t surprise me a lick if he were dealt.

by bigonetimer on Feb 5, 2009 4:24 PM EST up reply actions  

heh, I hear ya. It is a lot ‘what ifs’ in hoping Fehr is getting ready to turn the corner in claim a top 6 RW slot but it is what he was projected to be.

Is far as Fehr being prime trade bait I think it would just depend on if a team really is high on him. Considering he lost a year due to injury other teams might be leary. I would think that other teams would be asking for Carlson before Fehr.

by usiel on Feb 5, 2009 5:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Heading into this year, Fehr had played 58 NHL games. Heading into last year, Flash had played 43.

I think it’s fair to compare this year’s Fehr to last year’s Fleischmann. And on that comparison, Fehr looks good both stats-wise, and based on his more physical play.

by Ginga on Feb 5, 2009 3:37 PM EST reply actions  

Nobody has mentioned that 07-08 Flash was benched in the playoffs for 07-8 Fehr (who is not even in the discussion). That, to me, says a lot. Fehr was just recently recovered from his injury and probably not in game shape. Flash had been force fed ice time all season and when push came to shove BB had to acknowledge that Fehr brought more to the table. That dynamic won’t change. If Fehr finds his scoring touch at the NHL level he has the ability to be much more productive/valuable than Flash IMO.

by Rob Parker on Feb 5, 2009 4:04 PM EST reply actions  

I’ll agree, with the caveat that until we see these guys in May, “value” is a toss up.

The big question is, which of these two is going to be this year’s Semin? Says here it’s Flash—better hands, better skater.

by bigonetimer on Feb 5, 2009 4:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Just wondering, DMG

If your word choice in this post was intentional:

The comparison immediately struck me as a fair one; I have found myself thinking Fehr’s flashes of talent . . .

by Scott in Shaw on Feb 5, 2009 5:51 PM EST reply actions  

Believe it or not, it was not, at least in the sense that I wasn’t trying to create puns. But that sentence did stick out to me and I toyed around with it a little before just saying, “Ah, screw it, it’s fine”.

Let me tell you this though: Fehr’s name is awfully hard to not to turn into a pun when you’re writing about, especially in this kind of context.

by David Getz on Feb 5, 2009 6:12 PM EST up reply actions  


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