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The Value of a Draft Pick from TSN

As part of the build up to the trade deadline, TSN's Scott Cullen has done some research in an effort to determine just what the value of a draft pick is in the NHL. His methodology was as follows:

What is a draft pick worth, anyway?

To get a general idea, I decided to go through ten drafts, from 1995 through 2004 (leaving time for the 2004 picks to establish their NHL career) and assigned a numerical value to each of the players selected, using the following guidelines, with some examples:

10 - Generational (Alexander Ovechkin, Evgeni Malkin )
9 - Elite Player (Ilya Kovalchuk, Dany Heatley )
8 - First Line, Top Pair D (Thomas Vanek, Dion Phaneuf )
7 - Top Six Forward, Top Four D (Daymond Langkow, Chris Phillips )
6 - Top Nine Forward, Top Six D (Daniel Cleary, David Legwand )
5 - NHL Regular (Michael Rupp, Boyd Devereaux )
4 - Fringe NHLer (Kris Beech, Krystofer Kolanos )
3 - Very Good Minor Leaguer (Pavel Brendl, Jeff Heerema )
2 - Minor Leaguer, maybe gets a shot in NHL (Chris Hajt, Daniel Tkaczuk )
1 - No NHL games (Matt Zultek, Luca Cereda )

(As an aside, note Sidney Crosby's absence. Probably because he hasn't justified his 'Generational' tag but putting him any lower would result in rioting on the streets of several major Canadian cities, not to mention Pittsburgh.  As a second aside, does it seem odd to anyone else that the two examples of "generational" players are guys who were picked in the same draft?)

Of course, the methodology isn't perfect. The fact that numbers are used as classification system rather than a continuous measure of value can be a little misleading. For example, Dan Cleary is more than twice as valuable as Pavel Brendl, and Alexander Ovechkin is more than twice as valuable as Dan Cleary. But that doesn’t mean some general conclusions can’t be pulled from this data set. Cullen himself notes the following:

- There is little difference in the expected return on picks from about the middle of the fourth-round through to the end of the draft.

- First-round picks may be the only ones to be considered likely to reach the NHL.  Surely these players get better opportunities with the team that drafts them, but there is also something to be said for how difficult it is to project elite talent at 18 years of age. 

- The best overall returns from draft picks came from 1995 (Bryan Berard, Wade Redden and Aki Berg were the top three choices, though Shane Doan, Jarome Iginla and Jean-Sebastien Giguere were all first-rounders) and 1998 (Vincent Lecavalier, David Legwand and Brad Stuart were the first three, with Alex Tanguay, Robyn Regehr, Simon Gagne and Scott Gomez all going in Round One). 

- The 2004 draft hasn't yet materialized into very good production, despite having Alexander Ovechkin and Evgeni Malkin at the top.  Admittedly, some of the players taken in the 2004 draft are still in the early stages of their pro careers, so they will have an opportunity to achieve a higher ranking as time goes on.

What lept out at me was how steep a decline there was towards the end of the first round. 72% percent of players picked between 21st and 25th overall play more than 100 NHL as games, as opposed to much lower rates for those picked in the 26-30 range (44%) and the 31-35 range (26%).

If that trend holds true in coming years (which, of course, there's no garuntee it will), there's a pretty good chance that the Capitals' first 2009 and 2010 first round picks would be worth much more in the trade market than on draft day.

Ed. note be sure to check out SBN Nation's Trade Deadline Hub by clicking below:

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in the event of a picks-for-veteran swap, this analysis would definitely make me feel better. but i guess it should also be mentioned that the caps have snagged jeff schultz, mike green, michal neuvirth and john carlson in that same 25-35 range in recent years (plus chris bourque, joe finley, francois bouchard and josh godfrey).

for a team that will continue to invest most of its salary cap room in a handful of players (AO, backstrom, green, ?semin?), it’s imperative that the caps keep bringing in young, cheap supporting talent. better than bargain basement shopping in free agency.

by Natty Bumppo on Feb 21, 2009 9:39 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

I’m surprised the monster 2003 Draft wasn’t rated higher, though I guess it’s still early for them.

Oh, and rec’d – great stuff.

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by J.P. on Feb 21, 2009 10:47 PM EST reply actions  

Great analysis.

I think the big X-factor for any team is how well they think they will do in the draft. If you are a GM and you believe that you have an advantage on draft day due to a superior scouting department (and GMGM seems to be getting that kind of swagger) then you might value draft picks more highly than is rational for an average team…

by Gould Old Days on Feb 22, 2009 9:59 AM EST reply actions  

Depth of draft is another big point. I’d take a late 20s pick in 2003 or last year (Carlson) over a late 20s pick in the 1999 draft. Then it comes down to knowing how deep the draft is relative to other years. Carlson does not fall as far as he did if there were not so many stud Dmen in that draft so there are a lot of factors in play when it comes to trying to put value on a draft pick. I don’t think the NHL has the same depth of prospect pool as the NFL (where draft picks are valued with near mathematical certainty) but I think the depth has been consistently getting better for about the last decade. As the game gets more popular I expect that depth to grow even more. It’ll be interesting to see if these numbers remain constant (at least relative to each other) through that stretch.

by Rob Parker on Feb 22, 2009 1:27 PM EST reply actions  

I don’t think the NHL has the same depth of prospect pool as the NFL (where draft picks are valued with near mathematical certainty)

I think it’s more because there’s a world of difference between drafting 18 year olds and drafting 21-23 year olds.

by David Getz on Feb 22, 2009 3:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Agreed. It’s more similar to baseball than to basketball or football, where the NCAA serves much the same purpose as the minor leagues in pucks and hardball.

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by J.P. on Feb 22, 2009 3:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Of the major sports, I agree. I was thinking of making that analogy but the fact that baseball is as much a collection of unique skills as athletic ability and that so many good players come from places the draft doesn’t reach makes the comparison more complicated.

by David Getz on Feb 22, 2009 3:38 PM EST up reply actions  

True, there is a big difference between an 18 year old and a 22 year old. But I think if you take any NFL draft year and compare it to an NHL draft year there are more impact NFL players per draft, and more “solid career” guys in each NFL draft than NHL draft. That, I think, speaks to depth of the prospect pool. I haven’t actually checked the numbers but I suspect it is an accurate statement. There are definitely other factors involved (shorter NFL careers mean more opportunities for young players; more positions on the field mean more opportunities; larger rosters, etc.) but I still think the NHL has a lot of room to develop in terms of talent depth.

by Rob Parker on Feb 22, 2009 4:16 PM EST up reply actions  

I think the larger roster plays a role. Obviously there are eleven guys on each side at all times and probably another three or four who get in regularly enough to be solid career guys. That’s ~25 guys on each NFL roster, which is a total of ~800 in the league at any given time.

The analogous career path in the NHL might be a top six forward, starting goalie, and a solid defenseman (let’s say borderline 4th-5th). That would make about 12 guys on each NHL team, so ~360 for the league as a whole.

by David Getz on Feb 22, 2009 4:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Do you have any idea how many of the top NCAA football recruits end up being top NFL draft picks? It seems like that is the relevant analogy for NHL draft players.

by Rob Parker on Feb 22, 2009 4:45 PM EST up reply actions  

No idea. But I’m not sure it’s apples to apples.

There are a lot of guys who are very good, even dominant, players at the NCAA level who can’t, and expected to, succeed in the NFL for one reason or another and when college coaches recruit they’re only interested in how a guy will produce at the college level, not whether he has the potential to produce in the NFL.

by David Getz on Feb 22, 2009 4:57 PM EST up reply actions  


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