Tuesday Caps Clips: A Shutout and Six In a Row
by J.P. on Dec 8, 2009 6:30 AM EST
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Your savory breakfast links:
- Recaps and other assorted musings on last night's blanking of the Bolts from Corey (blog, article), Tarik (blog, article), Vogs, Joe B., Ed Frankovic, Peerless, Examiner, Puck Daddy, Hockey Mom, OFB, Fight For Old DC and Rock the Red.net from the perspective of the victors, and the St. Pete Times and Tampa Trib for the view from the other side.
- Some well-deserved love for Mike Green. [Peerless]
- Fresh power rankings are out with the Caps up three to first at The Hockey News, up four to first at TSN, up two to second at Sporting News and SportsNet, holding at second at USA Today (where there's also been a shake-up in their player power rankings), up two to fourth at ESPN and National Post (who asks the silly question we knew someone would ask) and holding at sixth at CBSSports (haters).
- George McPhee hates agents (even though he was one, way back when). [CBCSports]
- A painful walk down memory lane, in case you needed one. [D.C. Sports Bog]
- Firing up the Wayback Machine to remember the opening of a new building. [Capitals]
- Yet another hat for The Boss to wear. [Business Wire]
- The Bears' Brandon Sugden has packed his bags and headed to the KHL. See how easy it is, Nyls? [Bears]
- Bear Tracks! [LDN]
- This is one strong organization, top to bottom. [Peerless]
- "Points Per Shift" is a somewhat interesting metric, but it really screws guys who kill penalties. [On Goal Analysis]
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So for those of you who were around last night, what’d we think of splitting up the Open Thread?
Japers' Rink: Hockey blogging from the most powerful city in the world
by J.P. on Dec 8, 2009 6:41 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
My netbook thanks you. I was able to actually keep up with the discussion.
"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."
by gfcaps fan on Dec 8, 2009 7:16 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You know, I heard somewhere that if you’re on limited bandwidth or you’re on a small screen (like a mobile device or a netbook) this makes a huge difference.
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Dec 8, 2009 9:18 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Really? I didn’t know that.
"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."
by gfcaps fan on Dec 8, 2009 9:20 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I feel like I heard that somewhere.
"So much on my mind I just can't recline. Blastin' holes in the night 'til she bled sunshine."
by Laich It Or Lump It on Dec 8, 2009 9:25 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t usually have a problem keeping up in the single threads, but I’m amenable to splitting it up if it helps others out.
I could have been equipment manager, but nooooo!
by boutros23 on Dec 8, 2009 7:34 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It’ll make me feel less guilty posting images so I’m all for it.
"And next year it will be ours."
by Ovechwin on Dec 8, 2009 7:48 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I like it. Firefox handles the full thread okay, but IE, um, doesn’t, and it helps to split it up.
Unleash the Alex!
by gotsparkly on Dec 8, 2009 7:53 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m a firefox guy, but I like the smaller thread size even so.
"You're gonna eat that g**d**n Koho, three!"
by fat_daddyo on Dec 8, 2009 8:00 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
When I came back to the computer during intermission I didn't give up and walk away
which sometimes happens with the mondo-threads. Feel like you can never catch up.
My ability to post is only surpassed by my ability to pinch pennies.
by jordanDC on Dec 8, 2009 8:17 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I walk away too sometimes. If I find myself missing parts of the game while Z-ing through comments, I just give up.
"So much on my mind I just can't recline. Blastin' holes in the night 'til she bled sunshine."
by Laich It Or Lump It on Dec 8, 2009 8:25 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Agree. I like it broken up. Good move!
by bigeugene on Dec 8, 2009 11:31 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
For some reason, I didn’t get a memo on it. I might feel different about it knowing that going into the future.
Familiar Rapports: Bald Pollack, F&B, Gould Old Days.
Lobbies: Osala, Perreault, Erskine, Pothier, Neuvirth, Flash.
Fan of: Mean Lars Backstrom, Line Mashing, Cake.
by Whiter Mage on Dec 8, 2009 8:25 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
There was no memo – it was done on the fly, with a link to the new thread posted at the then-bottom of the old one.
Japers' Rink: Hockey blogging from the most powerful city in the world
by J.P. on Dec 8, 2009 8:42 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Big fan. Normally, unlike last night, I just come in during intermissions and after the game. Breaking it up makes it much easier to read.
A man gotta have a code
by CP2Devil on Dec 8, 2009 8:34 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I like the icon. Is it new?
"So much on my mind I just can't recline. Blastin' holes in the night 'til she bled sunshine."
by Laich It Or Lump It on Dec 8, 2009 8:45 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Fairly new. Added it last week. I needed a photo to match the sig.
A man gotta have a code
by CP2Devil on Dec 8, 2009 9:06 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
And it’s rec’d.
You're the reason that I hate Nova Scotia.
by Fehr and Balanced on Dec 8, 2009 11:00 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m always good for an easy rec for good Simpsons and The Wire references.
Of all our iniquities ignorance may be the worst
by Killer_Carlson on Dec 8, 2009 12:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I was pretty close to making mine Stringer as well. Still may in the future.
by sixsevenfiftysix on Dec 8, 2009 12:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
From the captain that some are embarrassed by:
“We’re heading in the right direction,” Clark said. “We’re nowhere near where we should be, peaking wise. We want to do that in March and April heading into the playoffs. I think we have a little ways to go to be a little better and more consistent.”
"After the Cold War, the AK-47 became Russia's biggest export. After that came vodka, caviar, and suicidal novelists (and a couple good hockey players)."
by Bald Pollack on Dec 8, 2009 7:22 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Clark has been great this year
totally useless last year, but great this year.
by DonnieKnutts on Dec 8, 2009 12:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Are the Caps better w/o Ovechkin?
I can’t even think of a way to lampoon this question, it’s so dumb.
"You're gonna eat that g**d**n Koho, three!"
by fat_daddyo on Dec 8, 2009 8:02 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I’ve been waiting to see how long it would take for those arguments to start popping up. It will definitely hurt Ovie in his attempt to win a third straight Hart, even if he ends up leading the league in scoring despite missing 8 games.
Because now I can justify browsing and commenting during the work day with the argument that I am promoting my business.
by Sombrero Guy on Dec 8, 2009 9:13 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Honestly, I think those awards are already checked off of Ovi’s bucket list and he’s thinking more about rings.
Unleash the Alex!
by gotsparkly on Dec 8, 2009 9:15 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
agreed. I don’t think he cares, just saying that Ovie haters will use the Caps record in his absence against him as he will surely be in the discussion att he very least.
Because now I can justify browsing and commenting during the work day with the argument that I am promoting my business.
by Sombrero Guy on Dec 8, 2009 9:17 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Why does he have to choose?
Honestly, though, I think we’re the ones who care more about a third consecutive Hart, and probably just to shove it in the nose of the league.
"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."
by gfcaps fan on Dec 8, 2009 9:17 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Pretty much, although I think the Caps wouldn’t say no to shoving a lot of things in the league’s and the pundits’ faces right about now.
Unleash the Alex!
by gotsparkly on Dec 8, 2009 9:22 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Don’t forget about Olympic gold there, too.
by grapejoos on Dec 8, 2009 10:09 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
O still think he has a good shot at Richard, which is amazing considering the lost time. He is almost on a goal a game pace and IMO could still get 50 in 50
by Garyland1177 on Dec 8, 2009 11:06 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Sure, he’s still got a shot at a lot of titles – I’m just saying the only ones that matter to him are the ones he doesn’t have yet.
Unleash the Alex!
by gotsparkly on Dec 8, 2009 11:18 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think we just relax and enjoy watching the finest player in hockey do his thing each and every night, and make sure he knows his fans love him back.
ALEX, FЯEE
by Your Nation's Capital on Dec 8, 2009 11:23 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
definitely :)
"No Brooks Laich, no win. Know Brooks Laich, know win."
by kellobellow on Dec 8, 2009 11:24 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
obligatory comment that technically 50 in 50 is supposed to happen within the team’s first 50 games to be considered a TRUE 50 in 50.
Because now I can justify browsing and commenting during the work day with the argument that I am promoting my business.
by Sombrero Guy on Dec 8, 2009 11:26 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Fact.
Japers' Rink: Hockey blogging from the most powerful city in the world
by J.P. on Dec 8, 2009 11:42 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
There’s always next year.
My ability to post is only surpassed by my ability to pinch pennies.
by jordanDC on Dec 8, 2009 11:42 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Well we do have the Washington hat trick (two goals in regulation and one in the shootout), why not the Washington 50 in 50?
by b.orr4 on Dec 8, 2009 11:50 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
OK, just like there is a “Tiger Slam” (no jokes, please) for owning all four golf majors at the same time, even if they weren’t won in the same year, Ovechkin gets his own “50 in Ovie 50” award.
If you've read this far...seek help.
by ThePeerless on Dec 8, 2009 11:51 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Plenty of folks have already done it.
Japers' Rink: Hockey blogging from the most powerful city in the world
by J.P. on Dec 8, 2009 12:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
maybe he will score 30 in the next 20? ;)
by Garyland1177 on Dec 8, 2009 1:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Or the “Agassi Slam”, for winning all four Grand Slams on four different surfaces. (Along with RFed now.)
by wittcap79 on Dec 8, 2009 9:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Well, he’s technically still got a shot at that 50 in 50 as well.
Of all our iniquities ignorance may be the worst
by Killer_Carlson on Dec 8, 2009 12:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The fact is, there probably is a player in the league more valuable than Ovie is. Last year J.P. et al. put forth a pretty strong argument that Green was actually the Caps MVP. If MVP is the best player, it doesn’t matter how the Caps do with or without him, if it is actually the most valuable, I would argue he shouldn’t have won last year, let alone this one.
"I think the relentless negative coverage in The Washington Post is a real difference from previous years," Redskins general counsel David Donovan said. "But in terms of the way our actual fans are behaving, we don't see any difference."
by Sct112 on Dec 8, 2009 11:19 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If I had to pick an MVP right here, right now, today, I go with Marian Gaborik. The Rangers would be in the basement without him.
Unleash the Alex!
by gotsparkly on Dec 8, 2009 11:26 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, yes they would.
My ability to post is only surpassed by my ability to pinch pennies.
by jordanDC on Dec 8, 2009 11:36 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
My finalists at the moment would be:
1. Marian Gaborik (with Lundqvist’s curious inconsistency and the lack of other options, Gaborik has dragged the Rangers on his back so far to keep them as close to the top-eight as they are)
2. Ryan Miller (remember, Buffalo is 20th in the league in scoring; Miller has little/no margin for error)
3. Anze Kopitar (LA is 20the in GA/G…they have to score to be competitive, and Kopitar has carried more than his share of the load)
If you've read this far...seek help.
by ThePeerless on Dec 8, 2009 11:56 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Kopi has come back to earth since Smyth’s been out. We’ll see if he blasts off again when Smyth returns.
Good call on Miller, too. He’s stopping stuff he has no right to.
My ability to post is only surpassed by my ability to pinch pennies.
by jordanDC on Dec 8, 2009 12:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think Zach Parise deserves some Hart mention as well.. at times I feel it’s only Parise that really provides any of NJD’s offense. :)
by Vinn on Dec 8, 2009 1:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Eff that on principle.
You're the reason that I hate Nova Scotia.
by Fehr and Balanced on Dec 8, 2009 3:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Good job but I’ll never rec that logo unless it is hilariously defamed.
You're the reason that I hate Nova Scotia.
by Fehr and Balanced on Dec 8, 2009 3:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hockey players aren't like other people. Witt after being hit by a car:
I’m okay. No big deal...I’ve got to go play some hockey. I’m a hockey player.
by zephyr on Dec 8, 2009 3:46 PM EST up reply actions 11 recs
Defamed, fabulously.
ALEX, FЯEE
by Your Nation's Capital on Dec 8, 2009 3:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Not working for me.
You're the reason that I hate Nova Scotia.
by Fehr and Balanced on Dec 8, 2009 3:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
=*[
but…but…the red cross…and the stretcher…
Hockey players aren't like other people. Witt after being hit by a car:
I’m okay. No big deal...I’ve got to go play some hockey. I’m a hockey player.
by zephyr on Dec 8, 2009 3:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He’s missed barely any time this year! And I hope it continues! My fantasy hockey GM job depends on it!
My ability to post is only surpassed by my ability to pinch pennies.
by jordanDC on Dec 8, 2009 4:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I meant the picture link isn’t working, I couldn’t see it. Not that the joke isn’t working. My bad.
You're the reason that I hate Nova Scotia.
by Fehr and Balanced on Dec 8, 2009 4:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, haha. I thought you were saying not enough defamation.
Hockey players aren't like other people. Witt after being hit by a car:
I’m okay. No big deal...I’ve got to go play some hockey. I’m a hockey player.
by zephyr on Dec 8, 2009 4:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Can you just link me?
You're the reason that I hate Nova Scotia.
by Fehr and Balanced on Dec 8, 2009 4:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
http://i50.tinypic.com/25p7lm9.png
Hockey players aren't like other people. Witt after being hit by a car:
I’m okay. No big deal...I’ve got to go play some hockey. I’m a hockey player.
by zephyr on Dec 8, 2009 4:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Better!
You're the reason that I hate Nova Scotia.
by Fehr and Balanced on Dec 8, 2009 5:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Nice work. Definitely improved.
A man gotta have a code
by CP2Devil on Dec 8, 2009 5:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Good call on Miller. Anze Kopitar’s in a slump right now, but they’re still second in the Pacific and 6-3-1 in their last 10 without him scoring (he hasn’t scored in 12 games).
Unleash the Alex!
by gotsparkly on Dec 8, 2009 12:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Wonderful Wayne Simmonds and his line are bringing it for that team right now.
My ability to post is only surpassed by my ability to pinch pennies.
by jordanDC on Dec 8, 2009 12:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ah. Which is good – that they can find scoring when their top guy’s in a slump. But we’re talking MVP – that guy without whom his team would be lost. Last year, that was Ovi. This year … it’s hard to argue that the same is true when said team is 6-2 and scores 14 goals in two games without him. I gotta go with Gaborik for that, although Miller is definitely a close second and a good argument can be made for him. If Buffalo wants to be a serious contender, they’d better get some scoring at the deadline.
Dare I even think that maybe Knuble and Morrison have been a large part of the difference?
Unleash the Alex!
by gotsparkly on Dec 8, 2009 12:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m not saying Simmonds should be MVP. #1 in your hearts, sure..
My ability to post is only surpassed by my ability to pinch pennies.
by jordanDC on Dec 8, 2009 12:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
No, I was talking about Kopitar :) The team seems to be managing with Kopitar being quiet, but where would Buffalo be w/o Miller or the Rangers without Gaborik?
Unleash the Alex!
by gotsparkly on Dec 8, 2009 12:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hanging out with the Canes & Leafs.
A man gotta have a code
by CP2Devil on Dec 8, 2009 12:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I was thinking counting lottery balls, but same idea.
Unleash the Alex!
by gotsparkly on Dec 8, 2009 12:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Anything that involves “14 goals in two games without him” should be thrown out the window though. Both games were against terrible teams and were aided to different degrees by mind-alteringly dumb penalties on the other side. Not to mention that they came right smack in the middle of a six-game (at least) winning streak, with Ovechkin helping us to wins on both sides.
by sixsevenfiftysix on Dec 8, 2009 1:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Not to mention the opposing teams’ goaltending was awful in both of those games.
Of all our iniquities ignorance may be the worst
by Killer_Carlson on Dec 8, 2009 3:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn’t go so far as to consider Philthy a terrible team. They have too much talent.
Granted, things hadn’t been going too well for them this month.
Rocking the Red since 1975
by CapsFan75 on Dec 8, 2009 8:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Can we stop with this moniker please? They’re Schrutebags. We get it.
"After the Cold War, the AK-47 became Russia's biggest export. After that came vodka, caviar, and suicidal novelists (and a couple good hockey players)."
by Bald Pollack on Dec 8, 2009 9:10 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Can I get an A-Men?
Only YOU can prevent idiots from commenting!
by Knee high to a duck on Dec 8, 2009 9:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
What’s a Schutebag?
Rocking the Red since 1975
by CapsFan75 on Dec 8, 2009 9:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
An evil person.
"After the Cold War, the AK-47 became Russia's biggest export. After that came vodka, caviar, and suicidal novelists (and a couple good hockey players)."
by Bald Pollack on Dec 8, 2009 9:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I hate the Flyers
and I wish Philly were terrible. Their D is plain stacked; get the attack up to, say, sputtering, and they’re an issue. Sane, healthy goaltending would make them a Problem.
by redlineblue on Dec 8, 2009 9:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Uh
They’re drilling the Isles even as we speak.
My ability to post is only surpassed by my ability to pinch pennies.
by jordanDC on Dec 8, 2009 9:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
rotten bastards, i expected Witt to destroy everything… :)
I could have been equipment manager, but nooooo!
by boutros23 on Dec 8, 2009 9:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
And the Flyers put their top PP unit out there with under 5 to go in a 6-2 lead. Kinda lame but as I type this it occurs to me that Laviolette may be trying to get more practice on the new PP system so maybe it’s not a total dick move. Not like he’s had a lot of practice time with the team so far.
You're the reason that I hate Nova Scotia.
by Fehr and Balanced on Dec 8, 2009 9:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Somebody on the radio said they don’t have two off days in a row until like December 28 or something like that.
My ability to post is only surpassed by my ability to pinch pennies.
by jordanDC on Dec 8, 2009 9:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Games on 3 of the first 4 days he is head coach. Not a lot of teaching and practice time there.
You're the reason that I hate Nova Scotia.
by Fehr and Balanced on Dec 8, 2009 9:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Didn’t we do that against he Flyers?
We were pissed so we set Steckle on em. Go get em Stecks!
They laughed at Columbus, they laughed at Fulton, they laughed at the Wright brothers. But they also laughed at Bozo the Clown.
by Bman21212 on Dec 9, 2009 1:56 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Miller would be my choice for Hart and Vezina at this point in the season.
Now drink with me deeply of the bourbon, scotch, and rye until such time as we are fighting drunk.
by Steckel Me Elmo on Dec 8, 2009 12:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The choice I most I assume. His numbers are just sick. Every time I think Bryz is having the best goalie season I see Miller and shake my head. Reminds me of when another goaltender in Buffalo made everyone else look average.
A man gotta have a code
by CP2Devil on Dec 8, 2009 12:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That man's name
was Darren Puppa.
My ability to post is only surpassed by my ability to pinch pennies.
by jordanDC on Dec 8, 2009 12:26 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
If there was any justice, Darren Puppa’s middle name would have been “Tayka”
Ron and Fez 11 to 3
by YvonLabresMoustache on Dec 8, 2009 1:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
“Steppin”
My ability to post is only surpassed by my ability to pinch pennies.
by jordanDC on Dec 8, 2009 1:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
…of your fantasy teams.
You're the reason that I hate Nova Scotia.
by Fehr and Balanced on Dec 8, 2009 3:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hard to disagree on Gaborik and Miller. Their teams would be nothing without them.
by grapejoos on Dec 8, 2009 12:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
hate to say it but the way crosby has been playing lately he has moved into the discussion
by Garyland1177 on Dec 8, 2009 1:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Not the way the team played without Malkin.
You're the reason that I hate Nova Scotia.
by Fehr and Balanced on Dec 8, 2009 3:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
And Gonchar.
Of all our iniquities ignorance may be the worst
by Killer_Carlson on Dec 8, 2009 3:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I dont think Ovie deserves the MVP this year
Most Valuable Player. The Caps are not as good, but still great without him. The Rangers are nothing without Gaborik. The Pens flop without Crosby. Ovie might be the BEST player, but because of the stacked Caps, not the most valuble.
They laughed at Columbus, they laughed at Fulton, they laughed at the Wright brothers. But they also laughed at Bozo the Clown.
by Bman21212 on Dec 8, 2009 2:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
For one, that depends on your definition of “value”. In terms of what he brought from his position, I thought Mike Green was the MVP last year.
Secondly, its still December. There’s still 3 quarters of the season to be played.
Ron and Fez 11 to 3
by YvonLabresMoustache on Dec 8, 2009 2:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
MVP is almost always treated as MOP (most outstanding player). Ovi’s the best player in the league. The fact that his teammates are damned good shouldn’t hurt him, and most years the voters don’t let that happen.
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Dec 8, 2009 2:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Might have last year with Malkin. He was pretty awesome and the most common argument I heard against him was that he wouldn’t have been as good without Crosby.
"I think the relentless negative coverage in The Washington Post is a real difference from previous years," Redskins general counsel David Donovan said. "But in terms of the way our actual fans are behaving, we don't see any difference."
by Sct112 on Dec 8, 2009 3:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I guess so, but Ovie put up monster numbers in less games. I still think Ovie was the better player.
by RedBirdie on Dec 8, 2009 3:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Devil’s advocate and all.
"I think the relentless negative coverage in The Washington Post is a real difference from previous years," Redskins general counsel David Donovan said. "But in terms of the way our actual fans are behaving, we don't see any difference."
by Sct112 on Dec 8, 2009 3:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Especially if he finishes at or about a goal a game. That’s unheard of nowadays.
You're the reason that I hate Nova Scotia.
by Fehr and Balanced on Dec 8, 2009 3:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
70 goals would pretty ensure that he is the MVP.
"I think the relentless negative coverage in The Washington Post is a real difference from previous years," Redskins general counsel David Donovan said. "But in terms of the way our actual fans are behaving, we don't see any difference."
by Sct112 on Dec 8, 2009 3:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Edit fail!
"I think the relentless negative coverage in The Washington Post is a real difference from previous years," Redskins general counsel David Donovan said. "But in terms of the way our actual fans are behaving, we don't see any difference."
by Sct112 on Dec 8, 2009 3:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If he cracks 60 again, or finishes roughly 20% more goals then the next guy, I think he gets it again. All he needs to do is stay in the lineup.
You're the reason that I hate Nova Scotia.
by Fehr and Balanced on Dec 8, 2009 3:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Or 5/8ths, but who’s counting?
"You're gonna eat that g**d**n Koho, three!"
by fat_daddyo on Dec 8, 2009 2:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The Pens flop without Crosby Malkin.
And with or without Gaborik the Rangers are still nothing. They’re a .500 team (granted, probably a few games better when he plays). Just because someone is racking up a teams goals does not make them the MVP. Ovie was MVP because of more than his goals. Otherwise you’d see players like Heatly winning it.
Russian Machine very rarely breaks.
by macvechkin on Dec 8, 2009 3:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The Pens flop without Crosby Malkin Gonchar and the rest of their defense.
Of all our iniquities ignorance may be the worst
by Killer_Carlson on Dec 8, 2009 3:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
This. I actually think the Pens’ MVP is Gonch. They flop hardest when he’s out.
by Vinn on Dec 8, 2009 6:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Joining late, so sorry if this is discussed further down, but why is this question so far outside the bounds of polite conversation? In the friendly confines of the Rink, I’d think this would be the one place we could have a civilized discussion on the matter.
I brought this up in a previous thread, and the question is, of course not “Are the Caps better without Ovechkin”, but more like – did this recent string give us reason to ask “are some of the Caps stars being constrained by the Ovechkin-centered system?”
I really hope I am not going to get excommunicated for bringing up these questions, but the thing I see from watching the last month of Caps is this – when OV is playing, the goal is to always get him the puck for a rush. When OV has the puck on the rush 8 times out of 10, he loses it on an ill-advised deke or a weak pass or a low-percentage shot. Those other 2 times out of 10, he creates something and he has the puck so many times during the game that this 20% adds up to MVP status, but the wasted rushes add up over a game, too. When OV is not playing, it seems the players are a lot more creative – the puck gets in the zone deeper and for longer cycles, and more chances are created. So, maybe only 3 or 4 out of 10 rushes are wasted, and chances are created 6 or 7 times instead. With the talent you have on the team, this could mean the difference between a 3-2 loss with OV getting both goals, or an 8-2 blowout win over the Flyers, with everyone chipping in.
(Sorry, JP, I know you don’t like “OV” as shorthand, just kinda comes out on its own.)
So, while there’s no question of trading Ovechkin, there is a legitimate question to be asked about whether we’ve seen on this latest run that the system might be adjusted a bit to allow for more creativity, and have OV lead the rush a little less often. Whether there’s a legitimate need for OV to step back a bit so the other stars can shine.
Just raising the question. Lynch on, now…
by katzistan on Dec 8, 2009 2:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
there is a legitimate question to be asked about whether we’ve seen on this latest run that the system might be adjusted a bit to allow for more creativity, and have OV lead the rush a little less often. Whether there’s a legitimate need for OV to step back a bit so the other stars can shine.
Agree wholeheartedly with this sentiment. Agree that the Caps will have been better off losing Ovi for a few games if this actually happens. But on any given night, I can’t see having a healthy Ovechkin out of the lineup as a good thing for their prospects for that particular night.
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by Gould Old Days on Dec 8, 2009 2:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, I agree.
I think the question at the end of the day is this: “Are the Caps better off, on balance, with AO in the lineup or with AO out of the lineup?” The “on balance” part covers the factors Katzistan references in the original post – the room for other skill guys to spread their wings, enhanced commitment to team play and the system, etc.
I’m pretty firm in my belief that the answer to this question is that they’re better off with AO in the lineup.
I do think it’s fair to note that they are not as bad off without him as some may have initially assumed; and that their best overall scenario is with AO in the lineup, and a commitment to the team and the system, and with other skill guys playing a significant part in the scoring.
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by fat_daddyo on Dec 8, 2009 3:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think I’d like a control set that is longer than one game, plus the lines will also have to reconfigure when Knuble suits up at long last on Saturday. (And how nice it is to type that!)
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by Your Nation's Capital on Dec 8, 2009 3:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The question shouldn’t be “Are they better without Ovechkin”. The real question should be " Can they win a Stanley Cup without Ovechkin"? I think we all know the answer to that one.
by b.orr4 on Dec 8, 2009 3:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
So, while there’s no question of trading Ovechkin, there is a legitimate question to be asked about whether we’ve seen on this latest run that the system might be adjusted a bit to allow for more creativity, and have OV lead the rush a little less often.
I don’t think it’s the system that needs to be adjusted, maybe the players’ deference. I think you see it with Perrault’s line. He doesn’t play with either Ovi or Semin and so the guys he does get are cycling well and moving the puck for good chances (burying the chances is a different matter). Simplistically though, this might just boil down to “Shoot the puck, Nicky”.
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by apk3000 on Dec 8, 2009 3:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Simplistically though, this might just boil down to "Shoot Carry the puck into the zone, Nicky".
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by Fehr and Balanced on Dec 8, 2009 3:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Semin is so creative with his twig, I wouldn’t mind him crossing the opposing blue line, either. I think we’re all in agreement, though, that AO becomes far deadlier as the trailer.
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by winterion on Dec 8, 2009 5:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think this point holds water for a few games, and it most likely is for the benefit of the team that they learn to play without Ovechkin for a short period (and hopefully stop looking to him so much on the PP). But I cannot buy that the Caps are better without AO in the long run.
Sure, they went 6-2 in two short stretches without him. But all 6 of those wins came against teams that were either not very good (Florida three times, the Isles, the Wild) or were playing extremely poorly (Philly). Their two games without Ovechkin against a playoff team they lost in regulation and looked terrible doing so.
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by Killer_Carlson on Dec 8, 2009 4:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
In fairness
They always look terrible against Trap teams, with or without AO.
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by Fehr and Balanced on Dec 8, 2009 4:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You’d think most teams would figure this out by now, and just go to the trap when playing the Caps. Avs and Kings figured it out last year.
by katzistan on Dec 8, 2009 4:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
And that’s something we have to fix before the playoffs. &#$*&#$ Devils…
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by Bman21212 on Dec 8, 2009 4:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
eh, maybe Marty will go all blue screen of death and completely freeze up for the last 90 seconds against a clearly inferior opponent up by 2 goals again.
by RedBirdie on Dec 8, 2009 4:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Or we could figure out the trap. We have the talent, just not the plan. They get too cute, and it doens’t work.
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by Bman21212 on Dec 8, 2009 4:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Prior to the playoffs, should the Caps watch some videos of how Carolina did their comeback against the Devils last year?
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by CapsFan75 on Dec 8, 2009 8:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
They should watch video from every team that beat the devils
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by Bman21212 on Dec 9, 2009 1:56 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
devils weren’t quite as trap-happy last year. And they were the beneficiaries of the Great Marty Meltdown of 2009.
by RedBirdie on Dec 9, 2009 9:55 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, and the Caps have a ton more talent than the Canes.
by red army line on Dec 9, 2009 11:21 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Especially Trap teams with Brodeur in goal.
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by CapsFan75 on Dec 8, 2009 8:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
A valid argument however I think we are being way to knit picky. We are on a 6 game winning streak 2 w/o OV 4 with and the best team in the league (at least point wise). Sure there are days when things are left to be desired but the fact of the matter is this is a great team with or w/o him.
All I know is come playoff time when teams buckle down defensively we are going to need number 8
by Garyland1177 on Dec 8, 2009 5:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
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Thrilled to have Bourque back. =)
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by winterion on Dec 8, 2009 9:24 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
So was Hershey
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by Your Nation's Capital on Dec 8, 2009 3:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
AND HERE COME THE TEDDY BEARS!!!!!!!!!!!
by RedBirdie on Dec 8, 2009 3:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Too frickin’ cute.
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Don’t make too much fun of “Chris Smith”. I once liked a guy with that name in elementary school.
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by CapsFan75 on Dec 8, 2009 8:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I didn’t know Ray had two kids!
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by jordanDC on Dec 8, 2009 8:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ray actually had three kids. His eldest was Melissa. CBo is the middle child. And the youngest is Ryan who’s the age of my youngest.
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by CapsFan75 on Dec 8, 2009 8:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Chris has middle child syndrome, it all makes so much sense now. That’s why he couldn’t succeed with Malkin and Crosby.
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by jordanDC on Dec 8, 2009 8:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
“Malsby, Malsby, Malsby!”
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Ryan was picked up by the Rangers.
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by winterion on Dec 9, 2009 12:21 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
NHL rather predictably named AO its second star of the night. Shoulda been Varly, as last night belonged to the goalies League-wide.
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by Your Nation's Capital on Dec 8, 2009 8:36 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
On a big night for Brodeur, the league got it right for the first star. Like him or not. As for the others, with all the shutouts last night, I’m surprised Ovie was named #2.
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by gfcaps fan on Dec 8, 2009 8:50 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Marty’s was absolutely earned. And I respect his game. When the Caps aren’t playing against him.
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by Your Nation's Capital on Dec 8, 2009 9:01 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Brodeur deserves credit for tying a major record, but on its own his shutout was not very impressive last night.
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by Killer_Carlson on Dec 8, 2009 12:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
In what way? He wasn’t seriously challenged?
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by gotsparkly on Dec 8, 2009 12:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
22 shots on goal from the Sabres… 5-7-10 across 3 frames. Looks like in the first, he could have been reading a book. ;-)
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by IRockTheRed on Dec 8, 2009 12:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I didn’t watch all of the game, but judging by the highlights, he didn’t make any really nice saves. Just normal solid Marty with a couple of nicer-than-usual saves. Same as for the last 16 seasons.
by red army line on Dec 8, 2009 1:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The other two replies to your comment got at exactly what I was saying: Not a lot of shots, and not a lot of quality chances. Varlamov only had 26 shots, but I thought there were more tough saves mixed in. Granted, I only saw the highlights of the NJ game, but none of the highlight saves were that good and you know that NHL On The Fly was going to show all of his best saves when covering a record tying performance.
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by Killer_Carlson on Dec 8, 2009 4:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That said, it’s not like these three stars of the day thing matter for anything. I’m waiting for the day when a particularly cute fan, expedient Zamboni driver, viral-video creating mascot, etc gets on of the three.
by sixsevenfiftysix on Dec 8, 2009 1:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I know it’s meaningless, but the NHL posts it every day, so we might as well pay attention. The very nice thing about AO and the second star last night was that the NHL assigns points for those. 10 for a third star, 20 for a second star, 30 for a first. AO had led the entire league as “First Star of the Season” based on his first/second/third star points throughout his recovery from injury and suspension. Three nights into AO’s suspension, Crosby got the “Hat Trick on Hat Night” and First Star of the Night and sneaked ahead of Ovi to become First Star of the Season. He and AO were tied on points but won the tiebreaker by having more “First Stars”.
AO’s “Second Star” got him 20 more points and a spot on top of the season leaderboard once again.
Again, absolutely meaningless and yet oddly satisfying.
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by Your Nation's Capital on Dec 8, 2009 1:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
the NHL posts it every day, so we might as well pay attention.
You, my friend, may want to think explore the depths of NHL.com before saying this again. Rest of the post I agree with though :)
by sixsevenfiftysix on Dec 8, 2009 1:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
you always have to look at anything on NHL.com from a marketing perspective, but you should watch the top ten saves of the week… I spy 60 at #3
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by Garyland1177 on Dec 8, 2009 1:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I have to agree. Four shutouts in nine games? Last night belonged to the goalies.
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by gotsparkly on Dec 8, 2009 9:01 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I guess the league would choke if all three stars were awarded to goalies. We want more offense, right?
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by gfcaps fan on Dec 8, 2009 9:14 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Well, the other question is how one awards just three stars when four goalies post shutouts, so I guess I can see why they didn’t.
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by gotsparkly on Dec 8, 2009 9:15 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
as someone (YNC?) pointed out, the NHL cannot live without Ovie. They want him in the news because people connect with him. Even suspended, he’s all over the NHL front page.
by RedBirdie on Dec 8, 2009 9:44 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Could that be why some people are demonizing him – it makes him a more controversial figure and therefore more newsworthy? Of course, some are demonizing him because they’re idiots, but one wonders ….
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by gotsparkly on Dec 8, 2009 9:51 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yep. ‘Twas me. League can’t get enough Ovechkin.
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by Your Nation's Capital on Dec 8, 2009 10:56 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
like him or hate him the guy has fun playing hockey and living his life. He is real and doesn’t BS all the time like many other star athletes. I think that is why people and the league like him so much, besides the goal scoring. People hate him for the goal scoring outside of DC
by Garyland1177 on Dec 8, 2009 11:10 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ovi’s consistent. 2nd star in our game. 2nd star overall.
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by CapsFan75 on Dec 8, 2009 8:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Peerless post should cause a wide grin to emerge on caps fans faces. Special times these are.
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by CP2Devil on Dec 8, 2009 8:36 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I’m even happier that they’ve put together three solid, reasonably complete games in a row.
The separation in the east is interesting: WSH, NJD, PIT are the clear top three at the moment, then there’s a pack of six team in the low-to-mid 30s.
by TylerG on Dec 8, 2009 8:41 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Me too. I complained a lot earlier in the season about the lack of full game efforts. The last 3 games this team is starting to resemble my expectations coming into the season. The captain seems to agree given his comments last night.
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by CP2Devil on Dec 8, 2009 9:05 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I still think this is a team we will see consistent efforts against the top teams in the league OR division opponents. The teams that don’t seem to matter, I bet we still lay a stinker or two in the 3rd period. Our complete games recently have all been SE or Eastern-conference elite (or what was elite).
by FFSEnough on Dec 8, 2009 10:56 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Another interesting record from last night. Per Tarik, 19-5-6 is the best 30-game start in franchise history.
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by gotsparkly on Dec 8, 2009 8:43 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Sort of. As Corey noted, ties, OTLs, etc. kind of make a muddle of that stat.
by TylerG on Dec 8, 2009 8:46 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
So…19-11?
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by Bald Pollack on Dec 8, 2009 8:54 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
How about 19-9-2 (shift the four OTLs to the L column and keep the two SOLs as ties)?
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by J.P. on Dec 8, 2009 9:05 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think this is entirely fair – so that would be 38 in the old NHL through 30 games. How does that compare, if we use that?
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by gotsparkly on Dec 8, 2009 9:07 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
what about shifting Shootout wins to ties as well?
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by Sombrero Guy on Dec 8, 2009 9:15 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Good point. That would be fair. Duh.
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by J.P. on Dec 8, 2009 9:17 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
This is why Corey hedged and hemmed and hawed, eh? :-P
by TylerG on Dec 8, 2009 9:20 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It wouldn’t be very hard for someone to create a small HTML page that converts league standings into old time standings this way…
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by Gould Old Days on Dec 8, 2009 9:23 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Did you just volunteer?
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If I had the skills, I would. Last programming I did was for CS 101, where I made a “fireworks” screensaver in C. I’ve never made any kind of dynamic web page.
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by winterion on Dec 8, 2009 9:29 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I wish I did too. I’m looking for SO records for each team right now, but it looks like they still munge OT and SO, blah.
What really disturbs me is the talk that’s going around about doing away with OT and going straight to the shootout (gah).
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by gotsparkly on Dec 8, 2009 9:29 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Who’s saying this? Are they suggesting it for playoffs too? If something isn’t good enough for playoffs, then why is it acceptable for regular season games?
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by CapitalCentre on Dec 8, 2009 9:38 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
No. It was talk on HNIC the other night during one of the west coast games.
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by gotsparkly on Dec 8, 2009 9:39 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I always am a little hesitant on the conversion, given that teams play differently knowing the rules that are in place (i.e. a team that’s great in the shootout might be more cautious in OT than they might otherwise be if the game was just going to end in a tie).
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by J.P. on Dec 8, 2009 11:08 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Which was the entire purpose of the giving the charity point, to provide an incentive for teams to attack and go for the win.
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by Fehr and Balanced on Dec 8, 2009 11:19 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I still like the idea of a 3-2-1-0 setup, where a reg win is worth 3, an OT/SO win 2, an OT/SO loss 1, and a reg loss 0.
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by gotsparkly on Dec 8, 2009 11:26 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with that; that’s how the KHL does it, and it makes a lot of sense to me.
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by IRockTheRed on Dec 8, 2009 11:27 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree but GMs seem to hate it.
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by Fehr and Balanced on Dec 8, 2009 11:42 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Sure…they have a half-baked loaf of bread. How does that taste?
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by ThePeerless on Dec 8, 2009 12:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Like parity!
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by Steckel Me Elmo on Dec 8, 2009 12:15 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Any plan that results in every game yielding the same number of total points in the standings is a step in the right direction.
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by J.P. on Dec 8, 2009 11:43 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
This is why I like the plan as well
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by Gould Old Days on Dec 8, 2009 2:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If equivalent acts don’t count the same why should equivalent games count the same?
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by Fehr and Balanced on Dec 8, 2009 3:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’d just like to know that there are a fixed number of points out there for the taking every year. It would make the stats calculate better.
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by Gould Old Days on Dec 8, 2009 3:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You caught the snark, right?
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by Fehr and Balanced on Dec 8, 2009 3:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Your old sig? I don’t think I got it.
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by Gould Old Days on Dec 8, 2009 5:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
No, just saying I’m taking a shot at the NHL’s inability to consistently punish so why consistently award points for games.
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by Fehr and Balanced on Dec 8, 2009 5:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Bullseye.
It’s pretty random in there. You kinda scored, in the semi-game, for the sorta win. Matching minors for tripping and diving. Mike Milbury.
by redlineblue on Dec 8, 2009 7:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
To me, everyone is missing the point right now. The charity point was necessary to ensure that teams wouldn’t have any incentive to just lie all their players down in front of their goal and play no offense whatsoever in OT, therefore getting a tie and one point. But now we have a winner EVERY game — no matter what. Why not just one point for a win of any kind, no points for a loss of any kind?
by sixsevenfiftysix on Dec 8, 2009 1:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m probably a minority voice in this, but I kinda prefer the gimmick stuff.
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by winterion on Dec 8, 2009 1:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You’re not alone. The gimmick is better than ties, and it doesn’t really ruffle my feathers that some teams get an advantage because their goalie/skaters have gimmick skills. I would much rather stick with the current system than move back to the old one.
While I enjoy the gimmick when it’s basically for a “free point,” I would be opposed to it being the difference between outright wins and losses. A one-point swing based on the gimmick I can handle, a four-point swing based on it I cannot.
by grapejoos on Dec 8, 2009 2:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed.
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by winterion on Dec 8, 2009 2:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
How often would we need the stupid gimmick if they played 10 mins of 4 on 4?
Why does the league resist that, do they think the fans love shootouts over 4 on 4 hockey?
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by macvechkin on Dec 8, 2009 2:41 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
People complain about how guys are already playing 65 minutes 82 games blah blah injuries blah blah
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by jordanDC on Dec 8, 2009 2:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I love 4-on-4, but even increasing it to 10 minutes doesn’t really obviate the need for the gimmick if you want to avoid ties. A substantial number of games would remain tied after 10 mins of 4-on-4.
by grapejoos on Dec 8, 2009 3:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I beg to differ. I’d wager that at least 7 of 10 would be settled in OT. That’s an improvement.
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by macvechkin on Dec 8, 2009 3:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That could be, but given the number of games that go to OT, 30% is still a lot of games. Should they end in ties? And I presume you’d be in favor of 2 points for a win, and no points for a OTL? Just trying to know the details of this alternative.
by grapejoos on Dec 8, 2009 3:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t know what I’m in favor of at this point, actually. They kind of let the cat out of the bag with the elimination of ties.
I would see this as a slight improvement, without completely botching the old standings accounting, which making all games worth 3 points would do. Not that I’m saying that is a bad idea either, because it woud be a lot more fair than what we’ve got now.
How about going back to ties and playing a 10 minute 4 on 4 OT?
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by macvechkin on Dec 8, 2009 7:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
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They should move to addtional OTs.
3on3 for 4 minutes, then 2on2 for 3minutes, and then 1on1 until the game is over.
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by zephyr on Dec 8, 2009 3:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
5 minutes 4-on-4, then crossbars 2-on-2, no goalies!
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by jordanDC on Dec 8, 2009 3:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
AO one on one for a minute guarantees the game ends one way or another.
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by Fehr and Balanced on Dec 8, 2009 3:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Are they calling penalities? What happens if you carry over a PP from the 2 on 2 to the 1 on 1? I like this idea.
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by Sct112 on Dec 8, 2009 3:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’d say carry over PIMs make it 2 on 1, like how 2 PIMs make 4 on 4 go to 5 on 3.
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by Fehr and Balanced on Dec 8, 2009 4:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
10 minutes of 4 on 4, sudden death.
Then 3 minutes of 4 on 4, no goalies, and you play out the full 3 minutes regardless of the number of goals.
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by Gould Old Days on Dec 8, 2009 3:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
and then after that 4 on 4 sudden death until someone scores.
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by Gould Old Days on Dec 8, 2009 3:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That would suck
because they’d line up for faceoffs every 10 seconds.
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by jordanDC on Dec 8, 2009 3:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
And then they should move the nets 10 feet up into the air and make them more round. And then they should replace the puck with some sort of sphere.
Hockey players aren't like other people. Witt after being hit by a car:
I’m okay. No big deal...I’ve got to go play some hockey. I’m a hockey player.
by zephyr on Dec 8, 2009 3:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ball hockey sucks
It is terrible, this idea.
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by jordanDC on Dec 8, 2009 3:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You’re probably joking but I was alluding to the “Buttman is trying make the NHL NBA!”
Hockey players aren't like other people. Witt after being hit by a car:
I’m okay. No big deal...I’ve got to go play some hockey. I’m a hockey player.
by zephyr on Dec 8, 2009 3:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
When people go on anti-Bettman rants, I tune out sooo fast.
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by jordanDC on Dec 8, 2009 3:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m usually gone before they can start.
Hockey players aren't like other people. Witt after being hit by a car:
I’m okay. No big deal...I’ve got to go play some hockey. I’m a hockey player.
by zephyr on Dec 8, 2009 4:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
They could make it really interesting by adding two more goals and playing on broomsticks… wait… wrong fandom… ;-)
FЯEED ALEX! NOW LOOK OUT, NHL!
by IRockTheRed on Dec 8, 2009 9:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t mind the gimmick, but I do mind the scoring.
3 points W in reg. or OT
1 point going into the shoot-out, fighting for one more point at 2 points for a SO win and 1 point for a SO loss.
Emphasis remains on winning outright, and it gets rid of the automatic OT charity point.
by DrinkingPartner on Dec 8, 2009 2:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
And it keeps the system to 3 points, no matter how it falls.
by DrinkingPartner on Dec 8, 2009 2:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Nowhere in my post did I advocate losing the gimmick.
by sixsevenfiftysix on Dec 8, 2009 4:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The blogger at “Mark’s Musings” has proposed such a system and each week does his update on how the standings would be with that system.
I think that system sounds more fair than the one we currently have. Or at least it’s a zero sum game when counting wins and losses, as it should be.
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by CapsFan75 on Dec 8, 2009 8:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That’s what this site: http://theoldnhl.blogspot.com/ used to do but they haven’t updated since the beginning of November.
They call him nightmare...
by zephyr on Dec 8, 2009 12:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
19-11…19-11…19-11…19-11…
Ron and Fez 11 to 3
by YvonLabresMoustache on Dec 8, 2009 9:29 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes! This may be my favorite episode of South Park.
"So much on my mind I just can't recline. Blastin' holes in the night 'til she bled sunshine."
by Laich It Or Lump It on Dec 8, 2009 9:30 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Its the best. I want a candy shopping spree.
Ron and Fez 11 to 3
by YvonLabresMoustache on Dec 8, 2009 9:34 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
We’re now close to the Pens if we count the OT losses as losses. On that scale, NJ would be the best in the conference on winning percentage.
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by CapsFan75 on Dec 8, 2009 8:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Well, that’s true of just about every stat in the league – the game has changed enough that it’s hard to compare with historical players, but we do it anyway.
Unleash the Alex!
by gotsparkly on Dec 8, 2009 9:04 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The team is playing so well we are reduced to debates on how good their record really is. This ain’t 1982 Toto.
A man gotta have a code
by CP2Devil on Dec 8, 2009 9:09 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
We don’t have enough to complain about.
Unleash the Alex!
by gotsparkly on Dec 8, 2009 9:14 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hey 1982 Toto…that means the song “Africa”..always liked that song, especially in supermarkets.
I lived with a blind guy for a while, then he figured it out and demanded back rent.
by Rather Bengt on Dec 8, 2009 9:14 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Africa
Completely OT – this is an awesome a cappella version of that, if you’re into a cappella vocals.
Unleash the Alex!
by gotsparkly on Dec 8, 2009 9:17 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Is anyone?
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by jordanDC on Dec 8, 2009 9:28 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I would argue there’s a reason Carmen Sandiego was on the lamb all those years.
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by winterion on Dec 8, 2009 9:29 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That show was great in spite of the presence of Rockapella. Too bad Lynne Thigpen is dead though.
Ron and Fez 11 to 3
by YvonLabresMoustache on Dec 8, 2009 9:30 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I used to kick everyone’s ass on the old computer game. I used to have to beg my parents to play because beating my brothers was so easy.
by RedBirdie on Dec 8, 2009 9:51 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Was that the one that was on the Macintosh? Loved that game.
Ron and Fez 11 to 3
by YvonLabresMoustache on Dec 8, 2009 9:54 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Was this lamb that Carmen SanDiego was on (sic), missing its tongue, by any chance?
by mechanicsville on Dec 8, 2009 10:47 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If you appreciate the skill involved in a cappella, yes. It’s not an easy thing to do and do well. I enjoy a cappella.
Unleash the Alex!
by gotsparkly on Dec 8, 2009 9:30 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe I’ve just heard all of the people that suck at it, then.
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by jordanDC on Dec 8, 2009 9:32 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
A cappella is very hard to do well.
Unleash the Alex!
by gotsparkly on Dec 8, 2009 9:38 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The link I gave you is good a cappella. If it’s not for you, that’s okay.
Unleash the Alex!
by gotsparkly on Dec 8, 2009 9:38 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
hah, there were some pretty talented groups that performed around University of Maryland. It definitely isn’t for everybody but it impressed me.
Related: http://news-briefs.ew.com/2009/03/19/nbc-sing-off-a/
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by Sombrero Guy on Dec 8, 2009 9:40 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
But do you enjoy Rockapella?
Ron and Fez 11 to 3
by YvonLabresMoustache on Dec 8, 2009 9:32 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i love a capella – but i was also in some sort of choir for 12+ years of my life
"No Brooks Laich, no win. Know Brooks Laich, know win."
by kellobellow on Dec 8, 2009 9:34 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Love that tune.
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by J.P. on Dec 8, 2009 9:18 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It was a double reference. The famous Toto IV album came out in 1982 and was referring to the Wizard of Oz when Dorothy tells her dog Toto, “Toto, I’ve a feeling we’re not in Kansas any more.”
A man gotta have a code
by CP2Devil on Dec 8, 2009 9:43 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-6a1PlB-zI
Jeffster
by Doncosmic on Dec 8, 2009 12:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Eh, we discussed the same thing plenty last year when they set the team record for points.
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by J.P. on Dec 8, 2009 9:15 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I know. My point was for those of us who grew up in the non-heady days of non-playoff seasons and “Save the Caps” these are heady times.
A man gotta have a code
by CP2Devil on Dec 8, 2009 9:19 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Interested to see that Tocch sat his top guys in the third, had a hissy after the game and avoided the media, etc.
I thought the Bolts played a reasonable game. They got burned 3 times in transition against a better team.
No?
The effort last night was workmanlike – they had some keystone cops moments in their own zone, which with some slightly worse luck get cashed in by Tampa – and the first period was deader than hell. But I’ll take it.
"You're gonna eat that g**d**n Koho, three!"
by fat_daddyo on Dec 8, 2009 8:43 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Their star forwards — and they do have star forwards — were inert.
by TylerG on Dec 8, 2009 8:46 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The drumbeat to trade Vinny should be starting about now in Montreal. And frankly, it might be a good move for the Bolts now that Stamkos has become more of a leader on that team.
by b.orr4 on Dec 8, 2009 9:28 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
As bad as Vinny’s been this year, why would they want him? Besides, I think his situation is better in Tampa than it is potentially in MTL right now.
Ron and Fez 11 to 3
by YvonLabresMoustache on Dec 8, 2009 9:31 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He’s French-Canadian and he’s never hidden the fact that playing for Montreal has always been a childhood dream. And Montreal has been lusting after him since he came into the league. Despite his bad start this season, he’s still a world class player who could benefit from a change in scenery. I don’t think he clamoring to get out of Tampa, but Tampa needs to shed salary fast and losing Vinny’s $10 million per year contract would be a quick way to do it.
by b.orr4 on Dec 8, 2009 9:40 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Vinny for Carey
Then the world implodes.
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by jordanDC on Dec 8, 2009 9:43 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Meh, they’ve got Halak, who is more than capable of taking the reins.
/Walsh’d
"After the Cold War, the AK-47 became Russia's biggest export. After that came vodka, caviar, and suicidal novelists (and a couple good hockey players)."
by Bald Pollack on Dec 8, 2009 9:47 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
They also have Cedrick Desjardins, who has 3 shutouts in 12 games this year.
Ron and Fez 11 to 3
by YvonLabresMoustache on Dec 8, 2009 9:53 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
In what league?
You're the reason that I hate Nova Scotia.
by Fehr and Balanced on Dec 8, 2009 11:07 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hamilton.
"After the Cold War, the AK-47 became Russia's biggest export. After that came vodka, caviar, and suicidal novelists (and a couple good hockey players)."
by Bald Pollack on Dec 8, 2009 11:10 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I said league, jerk. But thanks.
You're the reason that I hate Nova Scotia.
by Fehr and Balanced on Dec 8, 2009 11:20 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
SNAP!
Ron and Fez 11 to 3
by YvonLabresMoustache on Dec 8, 2009 11:21 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hamilton Ice Arena Men’s AA league.
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by jordanDC on Dec 8, 2009 11:37 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Seems like an awful lot of unnecessary pressure (see Turgeon, Pierre). Besides, Vinny’s cap hit is only 7.727, which is pretty reasonable. St. Louis’ contract is MUCH worse, especially considering he’s 34. I think they’re good cap-wise for the moment, considering they have something like over 8 million in room.
Ron and Fez 11 to 3
by YvonLabresMoustache on Dec 8, 2009 9:46 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think they’re good cap-wise for the moment, considering they have something like over 8 million in room.
Tampa’s problem isn’t cap-related, it’s actual cash flow as in how much money they’re bleeding every day. Barrie is running out of money and Koulos is looking for a buyer. The previous owner, Bill Davidson, died recently and his family has no intention of reclaiming the team. As you saw in the broadcast last night, there were tons of empty seats. Losing Vinny may save them “only” $7.7 million on the cap but it saves them $10 million in actual dollars and that’s what they need right now.
by b.orr4 on Dec 8, 2009 9:54 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
There has to be so many cap problems with that. Vinny just re-up’d for like 8mil a year right? There is no way that the Habs can bring him on board without dumping the likes of Gomez and several others.
"I think the relentless negative coverage in The Washington Post is a real difference from previous years," Redskins general counsel David Donovan said. "But in terms of the way our actual fans are behaving, we don't see any difference."
by Sct112 on Dec 8, 2009 11:25 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
His extension kicked in on July 1st IIRC. If Tampa had any thoughts of moving him, and the Habs any reasonable thoughts of getting him, sometime last season was the time to do it,
Lets not forget, Vinny has a “Nylander Clause” now also.
If you don't wanna get hit, KEEP YOUR HEAD UP!
by dlw66 on Dec 8, 2009 4:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Kid Stamkos a “leader?” I don’t know. 0 shots last night….
by TylerG on Dec 8, 2009 9:35 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
They had a great isolation shot of Schultz completely shutting down Stamkos (or was is Lecavelier?) on a rush. Was pretty impressive.
by ns on Dec 8, 2009 9:39 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
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by jordanDC on Dec 8, 2009 9:40 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Somewhere, there’s a document shredding company that should be plotting counter-commercials.
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by winterion on Dec 8, 2009 9:56 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’d like to run the monotone zombie triplets through a document shredder..
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by jordanDC on Dec 8, 2009 9:58 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That might not fly in marketing circles. Now, shredding a certain contract…
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by winterion on Dec 8, 2009 10:01 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
But did he hit him?
SHULZTe doesnt CHeck enough or Hit anyone! wORthless!
Ron and Fez 11 to 3
by YvonLabresMoustache on Dec 8, 2009 9:41 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
true, 0 shots but he was the most noticeable of their forwards. Definitely seemed to have more fire and created more chances even if nothing came of it.
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by Sombrero Guy on Dec 8, 2009 9:42 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He and Malone seemed like the only forwards moving their feet for the Lightning all night.
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by jordanDC on Dec 8, 2009 9:43 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I thought Vinny was plenty active through the first two. He got kind of unlucky on a couple of chances he had – one in particular that stands out was when he walked around Erskine to go in alone on Varly; Erskine dove and kind of hooked/slashed him on the lower hand, which caused the puck to roll away from him. I honestly thought that should have been a penalty or penalty-shot.
Upon reflecting, the whole team kind of mailed in the third period, trading rushes, giving up a 4-1 on the PP (that Brooksy somewhat unfathomably failed to cash in), etc
But V Le C was showing why he’s a threat earlier in the game.
"You're gonna eat that g**d**n Koho, three!"
by fat_daddyo on Dec 8, 2009 9:51 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i was pretty surprised Vinny didn’t bury that chance in the first where he raced down the right wing on the odd man and had some net to shoot it. He completely misfired instead.
by Kolzilla on Dec 8, 2009 9:55 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Upon reflecting, the whole team kind of mailed in the third period, trading rushes, giving up a 4-1 on the PP (that Brooksy somewhat unfathomably failed to cash in), etc
Actually, Tochett sat his top two lines for most of the third. I guess he was trying to send a message, but it was definitely a little bizarre given the Caps history of coughing up leads late in the game.
by b.orr4 on Dec 8, 2009 10:00 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ice time is a huge motivator.
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by jordanDC on Dec 8, 2009 10:01 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The Bolts have obviously not paid attention to the Caps’ play this season.
Rocking the Red since 1975
by CapsFan75 on Dec 8, 2009 8:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That was a good, and legal, play by Erskine.
You're the reason that I hate Nova Scotia.
by Fehr and Balanced on Dec 8, 2009 11:08 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Really, you think so? I haven’t seen the replay, but I thought his first contact was with the hand, and not the stick.
It was a good play, regardless, I’m with you there. Anything’s better than letting Vin walk in alone on your G. But I thought the initial contact being on the hand made it a potential penalty.
"You're gonna eat that g**d**n Koho, three!"
by fat_daddyo on Dec 8, 2009 11:23 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I thought the contact was lower on the stick. And I didn’t see Vinny complain so I figured he thought it was good too.
You're the reason that I hate Nova Scotia.
by Fehr and Balanced on Dec 8, 2009 11:43 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I can’t find any video on it right now. I visually recall it being upper stick but still stick, and I’m sure Erskine’s strength is partly to credit for it. A beautiful play that would have looked a lot more routine if he were twice the skater he is. =)
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by winterion on Dec 8, 2009 1:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I thought so too, and it didn’t seem to me that Vinny “walked around” Erskine. Appeared that Erskine was headed off for a shift change maybe and the bad turnover by another Cap caused Big John to turn around and give chase.
by Cluster on Dec 8, 2009 2:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Interesting, I thought Lecavalier stood out the most of the Tampa players last night. I also hardly noticed Stamkos at all and thought there were a number of other players that looked better than him.
Of all our iniquities ignorance may be the worst
by Killer_Carlson on Dec 8, 2009 2:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I had almost the opposite reaction, actually – I got a little scared each time Stamkos touched the puck, because the kid has seriously improved. Lecavlier’s still got the moves, but he doesn’t look the same, clearly.
by DrinkingPartner on Dec 8, 2009 2:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
the line with the rookie wright impressed me I think. They seemed to spend a lot of time in our zone.
That said though, Stamkos has been unreal this year, and I was scared of him coming into the game.
by Vinn on Dec 8, 2009 2:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Can anyone explain the significance of “the most goals since Feb 17?” Joeb and Locker kept banging on about that stat, that Stamkos and AO were tied coming into the game, and now they are…not.
So the point is now mute moot, but why did we care to begin with?
ALEX, FЯEE
by Your Nation's Capital on Dec 8, 2009 3:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It was just buzz for the TB/WAS matchup.
Russian Machine very rarely breaks.
by macvechkin on Dec 8, 2009 3:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Nash probably scored a hat trick on Feb 16.
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by jordanDC on Dec 8, 2009 3:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Because it made the Caps look good. I raised this issue during the game thread. It’s dumb, but it gives them something to talk about.
"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."
by gfcaps fan on Dec 8, 2009 3:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
maybe Feb 17 was the last time the two teams met? I dunno.
by RedBirdie on Dec 8, 2009 3:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
A few weeks before Easter, so time to buy your spring wardrobe?
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Dec 8, 2009 3:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Because that’s when Stamkos started scoring. Completely arbitrary.
You're the reason that I hate Nova Scotia.
by Fehr and Balanced on Dec 8, 2009 3:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Stamkos is unreal. I’m really looking forward to the next Bolts at Caps.
They call him nightmare...
by zephyr on Dec 8, 2009 12:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m actually going to the next Caps @ Bolts game – a couple of days in Florida in the middle of January.
Unleash the Alex!
by gotsparkly on Dec 8, 2009 12:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
nice! i was in daytona beach for spring break last year and almost borrowed my roommate’s car to drive the 2.5 hours to tampa b/c the caps were playing… didn’t quite work out, though.
"No Brooks Laich, no win. Know Brooks Laich, know win."
by kellobellow on Dec 8, 2009 12:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I miss Daytona, I lived there for a few years.
They call him nightmare...
by zephyr on Dec 8, 2009 12:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I just hope I don’t jinx the team. They seem to lose every time I go and I’m hoping to break out of this.
Unleash the Alex!
by gotsparkly on Dec 8, 2009 12:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hopefully I don’t jinx the team while I’m down there – the Caps’ road record with me in the audience isn’t very good.
Unleash the Alex!
by gotsparkly on Dec 8, 2009 1:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’ll be going, too.
Rocking the Red since 1975
by CapsFan75 on Dec 8, 2009 8:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
As down as Vinny is, how sick was that spin-a-rama?
Russian Machine very rarely breaks.
by macvechkin on Dec 8, 2009 3:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Perreault's was better!
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by jordanDC on Dec 8, 2009 3:21 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Drew Doughty’s doing them all over the place apparently.
"After the Cold War, the AK-47 became Russia's biggest export. After that came vodka, caviar, and suicidal novelists (and a couple good hockey players)."
by Bald Pollack on Dec 8, 2009 3:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I have seen that from him, yes. Very dangerous when you’re the last guy back..
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by jordanDC on Dec 8, 2009 3:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Brian Campbell got smoked trying to do one against PIT.
You're the reason that I hate Nova Scotia.
by Fehr and Balanced on Dec 8, 2009 3:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I propose that at least some of this inertia was due to an outstanding job of Caps backchecking throughout the game.
by mechanicsville on Dec 8, 2009 10:48 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Any word on Big Daddy Braddy?
I saw some rumors last night, but nothing that looked official.
ALEX, FЯEE
by Your Nation's Capital on Dec 8, 2009 8:47 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Tarik’s tweet
Matt Bradley’s wife, Sasha, gave birth to a boy early this morning. It’s unclear when Bradley is going rejoin the team.
A man gotta have a code
by CP2Devil on Dec 8, 2009 9:38 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Locker said they planned on naming the little guy Henry.
"And next year it will be ours."
by Ovechwin on Dec 8, 2009 9:39 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Awesome! I’m fonda the name Henry!
Ron and Fez 11 to 3
by YvonLabresMoustache on Dec 8, 2009 9:42 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I see what you did there.
Unleash the Alex!
by gotsparkly on Dec 8, 2009 9:43 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I was hoping that he was being named for a family member – otherwise I’m not loving this name. But congrats Matt & Sasha!
by Caps_Chick on Dec 8, 2009 9:46 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yea, Henry Bradley doesn’t flow well. Hank Bradley kinda does though.
"And next year it will be ours."
by Ovechwin on Dec 8, 2009 9:47 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
And when he’s naughty, he’ll be Spank Bradley.
Conversely, if he joins the service (or acquires an obscene amount of firearms), he’ll be Tank Bradley
Ron and Fez 11 to 3
by YvonLabresMoustache on Dec 8, 2009 9:48 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
If this kid goes into hockey the nick names will be endless!
"And next year it will be ours."
by Ovechwin on Dec 8, 2009 9:49 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Or golf.
“Shank” Bradley
Ron and Fez 11 to 3
by YvonLabresMoustache on Dec 8, 2009 9:54 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He'll be a tall kid maybe
and they’ll call him Lank Bradley
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by jordanDC on Dec 8, 2009 9:59 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Or if he has problems with women, he’ll be Chancre Bradley
Ron and Fez 11 to 3
by YvonLabresMoustache on Dec 8, 2009 10:01 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If he’s a goalie, call him Blank Bradley
AYHSMLN
by renhoak on Dec 8, 2009 10:02 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Smake Bradley?
Ron and Fez 11 to 3
by YvonLabresMoustache on Dec 8, 2009 10:02 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
For a while he'll be in diapers
and Matt will call his son Stank Bradley.
My ability to post is only surpassed by my ability to pinch pennies.
by jordanDC on Dec 8, 2009 10:03 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Or if he takes a liking to Tiger Woods style of mistresses, he will be Skank Bradley.
AYHSMLN
by renhoak on Dec 8, 2009 10:05 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
C’mon….is that anyway to rank Bradley?
Ron and Fez 11 to 3
by YvonLabresMoustache on Dec 8, 2009 10:06 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Well, we do have to thank Bradley for all this fun.
AYHSMLN
by renhoak on Dec 8, 2009 10:07 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Uncle Brooksie says if you need money go to the bank, Bradley.
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by jordanDC on Dec 8, 2009 10:07 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Just please don’t wank, Bradley.
Unleash the Alex!
by gotsparkly on Dec 8, 2009 10:10 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You took this to a weird place.
My ability to post is only surpassed by my ability to pinch pennies.
by jordanDC on Dec 8, 2009 10:12 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m hardly alone.
Unleash the Alex!
by gotsparkly on Dec 8, 2009 10:17 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Lately we’ve descended into this strange place.
"And next year it will be ours."
by Ovechwin on Dec 8, 2009 10:20 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, but it’s kind of fun.
Unleash the Alex!
by gotsparkly on Dec 8, 2009 10:22 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
And don’t be dour, we don’t want a Dank Bradley.
AYHSMLN
by renhoak on Dec 8, 2009 10:13 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Military tactician Flank Bradley.
My ability to post is only surpassed by my ability to pinch pennies.
by jordanDC on Dec 8, 2009 10:15 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I could think of some people that wouldn’t mind some Dank Bradley.
You're the reason that I hate Nova Scotia.
by Fehr and Balanced on Dec 8, 2009 11:10 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If he liked action films with Jason Statham he could be called Crank Bradley.
"After the Cold War, the AK-47 became Russia's biggest export. After that came vodka, caviar, and suicidal novelists (and a couple good hockey players)."
by Bald Pollack on Dec 8, 2009 11:11 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Or you could help raise the flag on Mount Suribachi with Sergeant Michael Strank Bradley
Ron and Fez 11 to 3
by YvonLabresMoustache on Dec 8, 2009 11:18 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
You sir, deserve this rec.
"After the Cold War, the AK-47 became Russia's biggest export. After that came vodka, caviar, and suicidal novelists (and a couple good hockey players)."
by Bald Pollack on Dec 8, 2009 11:27 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Sturdy little kid. Tank Bradley.
ALEX, FЯEE
by Your Nation's Capital on Dec 8, 2009 11:00 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Except for that paper skin!
"And next year it will be ours."
by Ovechwin on Dec 8, 2009 11:02 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Better he than well-known Pirate Plank Bradley
Ron and Fez 11 to 3
by YvonLabresMoustache on Dec 8, 2009 11:03 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Or will he be “Harry Bradley”?
Rocking the Red since 1975
by CapsFan75 on Dec 8, 2009 8:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, that’s what I felt, too.
"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."
by gfcaps fan on Dec 8, 2009 10:21 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Stan Fischler is already calling him “Henny”…
…well, he would, anyway (like he does for Henrik Lundqvist).
If you've read this far...seek help.
by ThePeerless on Dec 8, 2009 10:01 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
And we pay attention to Stan Fischler?
Unleash the Alex!
by gotsparkly on Dec 8, 2009 10:05 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I actually was shocked when he defended Ovechkin on The Gleason Incident.
Ron and Fez 11 to 3
by YvonLabresMoustache on Dec 8, 2009 10:06 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Did he really? Well, even a blind squirrel finds a nut now and then.
Unleash the Alex!
by gotsparkly on Dec 8, 2009 10:10 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Henny Bradley?
Kanye West approves.
You're the reason that I hate Nova Scotia.
by Fehr and Balanced on Dec 8, 2009 11:11 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
‘Indiana’ is the nickname of a certain well-known professor with the first name Henry
by Icebat on Dec 8, 2009 11:22 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Indiana Bradley and the Rink of Doom!
If you've read this far...seek help.
by ThePeerless on Dec 8, 2009 12:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Indiana Bradley and the Penguins of Doom?
by red army line on Dec 8, 2009 12:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Indiana Bradley and thePenguinsRangers of Doom?
Unleash the Alex!
by gotsparkly on Dec 8, 2009 12:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Indiana Bradley and the Cup Crusade?
FЯEED ALEX! NOW LOOK OUT, NHL!
by IRockTheRed on Dec 8, 2009 12:51 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
That. is. nice. And we can launch a dozen or so, just like the real Crusaders :)
by red army line on Dec 8, 2009 1:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
We called the dog Indiana!
"Let the rest be scared of us." - Emo Bunny Sasha Semin
by Scott in Shaw on Dec 8, 2009 12:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’ve got a lot of fond memories of that dog.
"Let the rest be scared of us." - Emo Bunny Sasha Semin
by Scott in Shaw on Dec 8, 2009 12:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Congratulations to Matt and his wife!
Unleash the Alex!
by gotsparkly on Dec 8, 2009 9:40 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Question about last night’s game. At the end, when Downie took out Pothier, Joe and Locker were saying how great it was that Erskine stood up for him. I couldn’t make out exactly what happened on the ice. If I followed it correctly, Downie wasn’t called for the initial hit, but the ruckus that resulted from it. So if the hit wasn’t dirty (or was it, and not called?), what made the scrum afterwards okay?
"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."
by gfcaps fan on Dec 8, 2009 9:28 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Downie stepped on the back of Pothier’s legs on accident on purpose.. I don’t think a lot of people saw that. Pothier looked like he was just going to lay there and let shit settle down until that happened.. then he got up in a hurry.
My ability to post is only surpassed by my ability to pinch pennies.
by jordanDC on Dec 8, 2009 9:30 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ah, thank you. I did wonder, because Pothier sure looked okay afterwards. Didn’t Downie get something like a 20 game suspension for swinging his stick at someone in a pre-season game with the Flyers a few years ago?
"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."
by gfcaps fan on Dec 8, 2009 9:33 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Not sure, but wouldn't surprise me.
He’s maybe the most frightening character in the league.
My ability to post is only surpassed by my ability to pinch pennies.
by jordanDC on Dec 8, 2009 9:35 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
No he got the 20 games for hitting an official with his stick in AHL. And also for pretty much ruining Pat Dapuzzo’s entire life when he inadvertently removed his nose with his skate blade
Ron and Fez 11 to 3
by YvonLabresMoustache on Dec 8, 2009 9:38 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If you haven’t read this article on Dapuzzo, be forewarned, because its really depressing
Ron and Fez 11 to 3
by YvonLabresMoustache on Dec 8, 2009 9:39 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ugh, I remember reading that and wishing I had not. Very sad.
by bigeugene on Dec 8, 2009 12:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks. I did remember the 20 games, just not why.
"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."
by gfcaps fan on Dec 8, 2009 9:42 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I was at the bears game in the AHL where he hit the ref. We had no idea what happened until reading after the game.
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by Sombrero Guy on Dec 8, 2009 9:43 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Posted before..
but I was on the glass in Norfolk and watched Downie at the bottom of a pile in the crease trying to ram Greg Amadio’s face through the ice for about a minute straight. I literally thought Downie was going to kill him.
My ability to post is only surpassed by my ability to pinch pennies.
by jordanDC on Dec 8, 2009 9:44 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
So wait… They still let this guy play after pulling shenanigans like that?
"And next year it will be ours."
by Ovechwin on Dec 8, 2009 9:47 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
They let Chis Simon keep coming back * shrugs *
Ron and Fez 11 to 3
by YvonLabresMoustache on Dec 8, 2009 9:49 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Related, sorta:
KHL officially confirmed today that Chris Simon is not longer with Vityaz Chekhov. It is believed he left the club due to “family reasons.”
Just a random little fact.
"And next year it will be ours."
by Ovechwin on Dec 8, 2009 9:59 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Which is why i’m assuming they just signed Sugden.
Ron and Fez 11 to 3
by YvonLabresMoustache on Dec 8, 2009 10:02 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
that opens up a foriegn born player spot for Nyls!
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by Sombrero Guy on Dec 8, 2009 10:13 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Not if Sugs takes it, it doesn’t.
FЯEED ALEX! NOW LOOK OUT, NHL!
by IRockTheRed on Dec 8, 2009 10:24 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
well yesterday we were lamenting Sugs taking up a spot, so this opens one back up
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by Sombrero Guy on Dec 8, 2009 10:27 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, well, yeah… if Nylander wants to go to the bottom of the KHL barrel… :-p
FЯEED ALEX! NOW LOOK OUT, NHL!
by IRockTheRed on Dec 8, 2009 9:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Will Nylander ever go? Or are we stuck with him all year?
Rocking the Red since 1975
by CapsFan75 on Dec 8, 2009 9:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Here, let me open a can of McPhee’s Nylander Response..
My ability to post is only surpassed by my ability to pinch pennies.
by jordanDC on Dec 8, 2009 9:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Actually, turns out I remembered correctly. See Puck Daddy http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/blog/puck_daddy/post/The-10-biggest-NHL-goon-moments-of-the-last-deca?urn=nhl,207364#remaining-content
"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."
by gfcaps fan on Dec 8, 2009 1:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I thought the hit was boarding. Pothier was 4 feet from the boards, and was knocked head-first into them.
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Dec 8, 2009 9:34 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
And it was more from behind than AO’s hit on Kaleta. I agree that I thought the hit was pretty dirty. I didn’t see the intentional stepping on Pothier’s leg that some others saw though.
Of all our iniquities ignorance may be the worst
by Killer_Carlson on Dec 8, 2009 2:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Even if not completely dirty that’s the kind of borderline hit I don’t mind fighting for. It’s the blatantly clean hits that start fights that piss me off.
You're the reason that I hate Nova Scotia.
by Fehr and Balanced on Dec 8, 2009 3:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed. Even though it was from behind and a few feet from the boards it wasn’t that egregious since Downie wasn’t going very fast and didn’t hit him very hard. But given the game situation and the offender I’m happy with the response.
Of all our iniquities ignorance may be the worst
by Killer_Carlson on Dec 8, 2009 4:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
What’s most impressive to me isn’t the offense ( we all know there’s plenty of that) but the goaltending. Both Varly and Theo have just been rock solid in the last four games. If that holds up, this team is going to very, very tough to beat.
by b.orr4 on Dec 8, 2009 9:33 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I’m withholding judgement on that score. The team has been good overall in the GA department for the last 10 games. Those sorts of streaky-good play can occur within an area that is overall a weakness for the team. As an example, if I recall correctly, heading into the playoffs last year the Caps had not given up a PP goal in something like 6 games (or similar number). The PK then promptly reverted back to being an issue for the team.
So color me cautiously pleased with the goaltending and the defense at the moment.
If they can stretch it out for another 20 games or so, I’ll be a true believer.
"You're gonna eat that g**d**n Koho, three!"
by fat_daddyo on Dec 8, 2009 9:44 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think the change in the defense comes down to the team playing as a 5-man unit. Remember that Gabby in his book says that his system is based on team defense – it’s okay for the D to pinch so long as someone is there to cover his spot. So, better defense comes with playing as a team – which is what they have been forced to do with Ovechkin out of the lineup.
This is the real reason why I think that having Ovi out for 8 games has proven to be beyond price for the Caps – they now play as a team, and last night, they continued to do so. If it keeps up over the course of a season, where they play as a team even with the stars in the lineup, I expect to see a long season.
Unleash the Alex!
by gotsparkly on Dec 8, 2009 10:16 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You know, I dont’ think covering the points has really been an issue, our wingers actually do that pretty well. I think more of the issue has been getting pinned in our defensive zone and not being able to get the puck out.
What we have seen more of this year, and even more of lately, has been our centers making checks behind our goal and coming out with the puck to lead the break out. Our wings gathering the puck along the walls to break out, even if it means coming below the circles and giving up a possible breakaway pass attempt.
I also like that in the last couple of games it seems like we finally got it through our heads that icing the puck isn’t always bad. When you are getting tied up, zero outlet passes open, and just need a quick 10-15 second breather to break the pressure, better to sling it down the ice for icing than to let the pressure overcome you and give up a goal.
by HateOffSeason on Dec 8, 2009 1:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Remaining skeptical is certainly understandable. I’m really excited about Varly. Consistency will always be an issue with him and young goalies in general, but he has looked very composed and confident (and very much like a top NHL #1) the past 10 games or so.
by grapejoos on Dec 8, 2009 10:17 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Next few games goaliewise
Maybe this is a bit too “horses for courses”-like but I would like to see Gabby use past performance with Varly and Theo the next few games. Use Varly against Buffalo after his success against them last time in pitching a no-hitter. Use Theo again the Canes Friday with how good he good he looked last week versus them. And well we lost to the Leafs last time out and it’s the back end of a back in back so I dunno maybe bring back Pete Peeters or something.
I lived with a blind guy for a while, then he figured it out and demanded back rent.
by Rather Bengt on Dec 8, 2009 9:40 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
yeah Theo was doubly good against the Canes, my bad.
I lived with a blind guy for a while, then he figured it out and demanded back rent.
by Rather Bengt on Dec 8, 2009 9:41 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Revolution Money to be acquired by American Express
weeks old news I know, but does that mean we won’t get Autographed caps jerseys when we pay for Season Tickets with a revolution card?
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by Sombrero Guy on Dec 8, 2009 10:22 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
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by Sombrero Guy on Dec 8, 2009 10:23 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Corey says Varlamov took the day off so Jose had to do double duty in practice. Does this mean they have to start bringing Stretch’s equipment with them on road trips?
"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."
by gfcaps fan on Dec 8, 2009 10:38 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I think they should – you never know. We were lucky the one time that the mess happened during a homestand.
Unleash the Alex!
by gotsparkly on Dec 8, 2009 10:46 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I have no problem accepting this role for no pay as long as I can fly with the team.
They call him nightmare...
by zephyr on Dec 8, 2009 12:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Mashed Potato Time!
I b’lieve Lainger gets his wires out today. Hooray!
ALEX, FЯEE
by Your Nation's Capital on Dec 8, 2009 10:40 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
HOORAY! :-)
FЯEED ALEX! NOW LOOK OUT, NHL!
by IRockTheRed on Dec 8, 2009 10:41 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t even want to imagine what his breath’s got to smell like when they open the cage.
by b.orr4 on Dec 8, 2009 10:45 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
you swish lots of Listerene. It sucks, but it mostly works.
by RedBirdie on Dec 8, 2009 10:59 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yay! Here’s hoping that happens!
(sorry sparkly, but that felt appropriate to copy)
by DrinkingPartner on Dec 8, 2009 11:17 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yay! Here’s hoping that happens.
Unleash the Alex!
by gotsparkly on Dec 8, 2009 10:47 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
For Bears fans..
When do they usually announce the goalie rotation for the weekend? Thinking of going up to Hershey, and I’d like to see Neuvy since my other Bears favorite is currently kicking ass with the big club.
My ability to post is only surpassed by my ability to pinch pennies.
by jordanDC on Dec 8, 2009 10:45 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I’m actually not sure; the Bears have only one home game this weekend, though… As a bonus, Graham Mink will be there (albeit playing for Rochester… :-p So mad he went away!) but I don’t know who they’ll have in goal or when we’ll know. Their other game is away at Albany, so maybe after the River Rats game we can find out who they’re going to start on Saturday… but it’s still a 33% chance which one gets the start, with all three healthy right now (unless they send one down to the Stingrays, that is…)
FЯEED ALEX! NOW LOOK OUT, NHL!
by IRockTheRed on Dec 8, 2009 9:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Doesn’t matter now.. already bought the tickets!
My ability to post is only surpassed by my ability to pinch pennies.
by jordanDC on Dec 8, 2009 9:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ungodly ugly.
My ability to post is only surpassed by my ability to pinch pennies.
by jordanDC on Dec 8, 2009 9:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
My eyes! My eyes!
At least I have my bleach
They laughed at Columbus, they laughed at Fulton, they laughed at the Wright brothers. But they also laughed at Bozo the Clown.
by Bman21212 on Dec 9, 2009 2:01 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Semin
I just finished watching the replay of Semin’s shot on goal, which was stopped, at the end of the first period last night. His moves were Ovi-like! Kudos to Smith for flicking that one away.
In the up-and-down saga that is Semin, he’s certainly been a huge difference-maker, in a positive way, the past few games. IF ONLY he could stay on this roll. Here’s to what’s probably wishful thinking!
by kfjje on Dec 8, 2009 10:50 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Trade Semin!
When are they going to get rid of Semin? The inconsistent play is killing them. Like, when he stole the puck at the red line, broke in, and whipped a perfect pass to Ovechkin for the first goal. Or, like, when he picked Halpern’s pocket in the Caps’ zone, led the rush, held, and put a pass right on Fleischmann’s tape. Or, like,…
by mechanicsville on Dec 8, 2009 10:51 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Semin + Hershey for Kovalchuk.
My ability to post is only surpassed by my ability to pinch pennies.
by jordanDC on Dec 8, 2009 10:52 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Semin + a Hershey Bar for Kovalchuk.
"So much on my mind I just can't recline. Blastin' holes in the night 'til she bled sunshine."
by Laich It Or Lump It on Dec 8, 2009 11:01 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That deal makes me want to kill a bar
Ron and Fez 11 to 3
by YvonLabresMoustache on Dec 8, 2009 11:05 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn’t trade Hershey for the ghost of Gordie Howe.
by sixsevenfiftysix on Dec 8, 2009 1:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I ain’t dead yet!
If you've read this far...seek help.
by ThePeerless on Dec 8, 2009 2:08 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
The third goal was funny. Semin was gassed after tracking Halpern down and getting the puck away from him, and he kind of pushed the puck out in front of AO and slowed down for a split second. AO also slowed down so Semin just kind of got this “fuggit” look on his face, skated down to the goal line, opened up, and found Flash.
He had a LOT of time and space there, which I’m sure didn’t please Tocchet at all.
"You're gonna eat that g**d**n Koho, three!"
by fat_daddyo on Dec 8, 2009 10:56 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I noticed Semin had a lot of time to camp out and simply wait as teammates darted towards the net. I must say i love watching him do that, and it must be absolutely terrifying to see if you’re an opposing coach.
by Kolzilla on Dec 8, 2009 10:58 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
What I love about this is that this year, his teammates do beeline for the net, something they didn’t do a lot of last year.
Unleash the Alex!
by gotsparkly on Dec 8, 2009 11:07 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
And it was idiotic that he didn’t take a shot. It worked out, but still idiotic.
You're the reason that I hate Nova Scotia.
by Fehr and Balanced on Dec 8, 2009 11:16 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
There’s times when Semin shoots and shouldn’t – think back to the Flyers game and the Richards / Carter 2-on-1 SH rush in the first. That happened because a Semin shot got blocked and it bounced out into neutral ice.
Unleash the Alex!
by gotsparkly on Dec 8, 2009 11:20 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, he should have shot
"You're gonna eat that g**d**n Koho, three!"
by fat_daddyo on Dec 8, 2009 11:42 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That was Flash, but I noticed that, too.
by DrinkingPartner on Dec 8, 2009 11:18 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I've always thought of Semin as this kind of artist
but maybe he’s this kind:
No, I’ll stick with my first thought.
by Icebat on Dec 8, 2009 2:03 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
or…
If you've read this far...seek help.
by ThePeerless on Dec 8, 2009 2:10 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
slash-curious?
Russian Machine very rarely breaks.
by macvechkin on Dec 8, 2009 2:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Closet Canadian?
"After the Cold War, the AK-47 became Russia's biggest export. After that came vodka, caviar, and suicidal novelists (and a couple good hockey players)."
by Bald Pollack on Dec 8, 2009 2:30 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
That’d be the shocker of the century.
by DrinkingPartner on Dec 8, 2009 2:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Semin plays tummy sticks and the bongos?
You're the reason that I hate Nova Scotia.
by Fehr and Balanced on Dec 8, 2009 3:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Semin has had a good stretch of games since returning, but if you want to talk about his consistency by cherry picking good plays we could just as easily start cherry picking bad plays. I’m not sure that’s a road you want to go down if you want to convince people that the Caps shouldn’t trade Semin.
Of all our iniquities ignorance may be the worst
by Killer_Carlson on Dec 8, 2009 2:52 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Are you honeltly trying to say that Semin makes more bad plays than good?
by mechanicsville on Dec 8, 2009 5:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think he’s trying to say that we’ve been down this route and we’re tired of it.
My ability to post is only surpassed by my ability to pinch pennies.
by jordanDC on Dec 8, 2009 5:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks much for the translation. And what I’m trying to say is Semin’s really good and I’m not yet tired of saying it.
by mechanicsville on Dec 8, 2009 5:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You’re welcome, my good gentleman.
My ability to post is only surpassed by my ability to pinch pennies.
by jordanDC on Dec 8, 2009 6:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Where did I say that?
What I am saying, is that one can pick out many many bad plays that he makes, among the many many good plays that he makes. Hence the inconsistency criticism that you seemed to brush off as invalid due to his recent play.
Of all our iniquities ignorance may be the worst
by Killer_Carlson on Dec 8, 2009 7:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
A minor point of disagreement: even AO does not have the kind chops with the puck that 28 has. The ability to step around an opponent or two with the puck on a string is something that Semin does much better than AO. AO scores by being fast, strong, determined and having a good sense for being in the right place at the right time. When he gets by a defender, it’s more often than not a result of a bull rush.
I said in the GDT last night that we saw the many sides of Sasha Semin last night, and that was one of them.
"You're gonna eat that g**d**n Koho, three!"
by fat_daddyo on Dec 8, 2009 10:53 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Semin is the sickest puck handler I’ve ever seen, maybe the very best. What he does is unreal.
by RedBirdie on Dec 8, 2009 11:01 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Points-per-shift
I saw that metric yesterday, and I agree with you, the guys that kill penalties get screwed. The guys who are well ahead of the pack – AO and Kovalchuk – don’t play on the PK.
I’d like to see an adjusted PPS that corrects for PK time, because it’s an interesting stat. And I’d like to see a metric that incorporates length of shift, too.
"You're gonna eat that g**d**n Koho, three!"
by fat_daddyo on Dec 8, 2009 10:50 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I feel like if would be pretty easy to split that stat up into even strength, PP, and PK. It doesn’t make sense to lump it all together. The other flaw is that shift length affects the metric. PPS/60 would solve that I think.
"So much on my mind I just can't recline. Blastin' holes in the night 'til she bled sunshine."
by Laich It Or Lump It on Dec 8, 2009 11:04 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Then you’re just back to Pts/60 at ES, which is readily available at BtN.
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by J.P. on Dec 8, 2009 11:12 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t really see any value in PPS other than you can add “every time they jump the boards” when you bring up a stat.
by psuscott1 on Dec 8, 2009 11:15 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hmm, yea you’re right. You could still break PPS down into ES, PP, and PK though.
"So much on my mind I just can't recline. Blastin' holes in the night 'til she bled sunshine."
by Laich It Or Lump It on Dec 8, 2009 11:16 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
which is why PPS is flawed and Pts/60 at ES is better. Though Pts/60 at PP and PK would be interesting to see too.
They laughed at Columbus, they laughed at Fulton, they laughed at the Wright brothers. But they also laughed at Bozo the Clown.
by Bman21212 on Dec 8, 2009 3:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
There are some other good ideas in the comments to G.O.D.’s FanPost.
"Let the rest be scared of us." - Emo Bunny Sasha Semin
by Scott in Shaw on Dec 8, 2009 12:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Don’t have anything new to add that we didn’t discuss on that lazy summer week, but I’m glad the discussion has been remembered.
Seems to me that per-60 is becoming something of a standard. The most important thing is that we do settle on a standard so it’s not all a big mishmash, but for the reasons I outlined up there, per-60 seems like just about the worst option to me. I still like per shift, and I don’t think the fact that some guys take longer shifts than others makes as much difference as folks think it would.
And for any of these rate stats, lumping ES, PP and PK together is idiotic.
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Dec 8, 2009 3:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
From NHL on the Fly last night
“The great thing about Nick Backstrom is that no matter who they play against or who is in the lineup he’s the same player night in and night out. You always know what you’re getting from this guy.”
You're the reason that I hate Nova Scotia.
by Fehr and Balanced on Dec 8, 2009 10:58 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
How many times did you watch it on loop? I think my record was three.
My ability to post is only surpassed by my ability to pinch pennies.
by jordanDC on Dec 8, 2009 11:01 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Man. A lot. I’m not sure but I know I’ve just left NHLN while I’ve been doing stuff around the house for hours. I’d bet I’ve watched more than 3.
You're the reason that I hate Nova Scotia.
by Fehr and Balanced on Dec 8, 2009 11:02 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
And they gave him love for his defensive play and helping out even when he’s not on the score sheet.
You're the reason that I hate Nova Scotia.
by Fehr and Balanced on Dec 8, 2009 11:01 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Its awesome to watch it during the night and get the live look ins on games, particularly for those of us too poor to afford NHL Centre Ice.
Ron and Fez 11 to 3
by YvonLabresMoustache on Dec 8, 2009 11:06 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I get Center Ice but I’ll look in on On the Fly during intermissions.
Unleash the Alex!
by gotsparkly on Dec 8, 2009 11:09 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
On the fly has become must-watch TV. I make sure to catch it before bed whenever possible. I just wish they wouldn’t flash the scores of the game you’re watching highlights of across the bottom.
by Kolzilla on Dec 8, 2009 11:12 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I wake up too early in the morning to catch it before I leave.
Ron and Fez 11 to 3
by YvonLabresMoustache on Dec 8, 2009 11:20 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
they actually praised the whole team for this, as well as the goaltending. it kind of blew me away.
by ns on Dec 8, 2009 11:14 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
what, the caps, as a team, got praise? I thought this was a one-man team!
by RedBirdie on Dec 8, 2009 11:14 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Holy crap, the Caps as a team actually got love on On the Fly? But they’re a one-man team with no defense and their superstar is selfish and dirty!
Unleash the Alex!
by gotsparkly on Dec 8, 2009 11:15 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
IIRC On the Fly never bought into the dirty stuff. They’ve always been pretty high on AO. When Bob Errey isn’t working it, at least.
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by Fehr and Balanced on Dec 8, 2009 11:18 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe it was him, but I know I’ve heard some disparaging comments on OtF about Ovi.
Gotta admit, though, that a fond daydream is watching Mike Milbury eat his words with a dash of Dave’s Insanity Reserve.
Unleash the Alex!
by gotsparkly on Dec 8, 2009 11:24 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
OTF is pretty good about being even keeled on all the teams.
They call him nightmare...
by zephyr on Dec 8, 2009 12:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed… except when Bob Errey is involved. Now if they could get production value that didn’t look like they were on public access…
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by Fehr and Balanced on Dec 8, 2009 3:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Even Denis Potvin loves the Caps….whodathunkit?
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by ThePeerless on Dec 8, 2009 12:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yet he dislikes Ovechkin, go figure.
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by jordanDC on Dec 8, 2009 12:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Of course…he’ll never get an opportunity to break his leg.
Ron and Fez 11 to 3
by YvonLabresMoustache on Dec 8, 2009 1:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Lost in the shuffle?
I didn’t see a note about this, but it seemed noteworthy to me: the win last night + San Jose not playing = Caps are now in first place in the league (as opposed to just first in the East). Does anyone know when the last time the Caps were first league-wide this late in a season? I can’t remember them being in this position in (at least) the last decade… but maybe my memory is faulty.
by Hystricine on Dec 8, 2009 11:02 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I don’t think they have been, I remember something the last time the caps were on top this season saying they hadn’t been on top that late in a while.
"And next year it will be ours."
by Ovechwin on Dec 8, 2009 11:03 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
This is just the second time the Caps have had the NHL’s best record this late in a season (other was 1991-92)
"And next year it will be ours."
by Ovechwin on Dec 8, 2009 12:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for finding that! What was the source?
by Hystricine on Dec 8, 2009 2:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Corey Masisak’s Twitter feed.
Unleash the Alex!
by gotsparkly on Dec 8, 2009 2:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I watched last night after waking up from surgery. Perhaps that explains why the game seemed somewhat boring to me. The On the Fly recap helped a little, especially the praise for our splendid goalie. But the best medicine by far is right here at Japer’s and over at Peerless. I don’t know what I would do without either of you, and your insightful followers. On the Bolts, Downie creature notwithstanding, they are a much improved team. Still, and it might have been the post-operative effect, they seemed to have wooden legs last night.
by FlyingCloud on Dec 8, 2009 11:25 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
It was definitely dull to watch for the first half of the game. I actually considered hanging it up at the 2nd intermission if scoring didn’t start happening, but it picked up after the 30 minute mark.
Unleash the Alex!
by gotsparkly on Dec 8, 2009 11:31 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks, RedBirdie, you rank high among my dear ones!
by FlyingCloud on Dec 8, 2009 6:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The Nationals signed Ivan Rodriguez. All I can think of is Jaromir Jagr. This is Bad News Bears for them.
"My face is my mask."
by jakeshapiro on Dec 8, 2009 11:42 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Pudge is signed as a back-up. I’m a little conflicted, but I think this might just work out well. Or, as well as anything works out for the Nats.
by RedBirdie on Dec 8, 2009 11:45 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I thought so too, but even THEY wouldn’t be dumb enough to start him every day. That’s Jesus Flores’ job (if they can put his shoulder back together).
Ron and Fez 11 to 3
by YvonLabresMoustache on Dec 8, 2009 11:45 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I wonder how much they’ll start him. I don’t know much about MLB salaries, but that seems like an awful lot of money for a backup.
"My face is my mask."
by jakeshapiro on Dec 8, 2009 11:49 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Probably once or twice a week, depending on Flores’ shoulder.
Ron and Fez 11 to 3
by YvonLabresMoustache on Dec 8, 2009 11:53 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hey… Eric Fehr came back from BOTH shoulders undergoing surgery (so as to preserve the hockey thematics)
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by ThePeerless on Dec 8, 2009 12:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
And so did Michael Nylander, right?
Oh wait…
by red army line on Dec 8, 2009 12:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The Pudge signing is, in part, to say to the rest of baseball “See, we’re serious, we got ourselves a free agent with a big name. See? SEE! People want to play in Washington!” It might help in attracting other free agents (the Nats are trying to woo John Smoltz, among others).
Pudge is also generally a decent guy when it comes to handling a pitching staff. With all the young’uns on the mound, they need someone who can be “that guy” behind the plate (or telling them to get their shit togetehr on the mound) and hopefully he’ll help Flores learn how to manage a pitching staff.
by RedBirdie on Dec 8, 2009 12:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
John Smoltz too?
has someone told Mr. Kasten that this is not 1996 anymore. I know he spent all those years with the Braves.
by Steve. on Dec 8, 2009 12:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hey, Brad Penny just signed a $7.5 million deal to pitch for the Cards next year. The market for retreads is booming. Be afraid. Be very, very afraid.
by Kolzilla on Dec 8, 2009 12:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Well the O’s are trying to trade for Kevin Millwood. So I see your point.
by Steve. on Dec 8, 2009 1:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Eh. Its an economics thing. Every day you can throw out a retread like Penny or Millwood means less innings for your younger pitchers, which equals less wear and tear on their arms. CC Sabathia still pitches well today because the Indians took such good care of him when he was a younger pitcher (much like the Giants did with Lincecum). The exact opposite of that is what Dusty Baker did to Mark Prior and Kerry Wood.
Ron and Fez 11 to 3
by YvonLabresMoustache on Dec 8, 2009 1:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, at this point the Nats just need guys who can eat innings anyway until the prospects start to rise. They won’t be competitive for at least two or three years anyway.
by Kolzilla on Dec 8, 2009 1:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yup. I keep telling people, for all intents and purposes, this is an expansion team, and its going to take a while for anything positive to happen.
Ron and Fez 11 to 3
by YvonLabresMoustache on Dec 8, 2009 1:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
All those #1 draft spots have to help them eventually
They laughed at Columbus, they laughed at Fulton, they laughed at the Wright brothers. But they also laughed at Bozo the Clown.
by Bman21212 on Dec 8, 2009 3:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Don’t shortchange Riggleman! He helped wear out Prior before Dusty got there!
"Let the rest be scared of us." - Emo Bunny Sasha Semin
by Scott in Shaw on Dec 8, 2009 2:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’d pay to watch Smoltz pitch. You never know when these old guys are going to have an “on” day and absolutely decimate the opposing team. Its beautiful to watch.
Again, a Smoltz signing is one of those “Look, we’re a very serious team!” things. But I’d love to see him here.
by RedBirdie on Dec 8, 2009 12:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The Nats have plenty of money to spend, and let’s not forget that they paid Paul LoDuca $5M/yr. at one point. They need to make these kinds of signings if they’re serious about rebuiding. Backup catcher/mentor to Flores was on the list of off-season needs. Because they suck, they need to overpay to get free agents to sign here. I think it was about as good an option at C as one could have hoped for (although I don’t like having to give up a draft pick for him).
"Let the rest be scared of us." - Emo Bunny Sasha Semin
by Scott in Shaw on Dec 8, 2009 12:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’ve got some very good friends that work in the Nats organization and you should hear them rant about how cheap the management is on everything from paper clips to phone bills. The Lerners are the richest owners in baseball, yet you’d never know it from the product they put on the field.
by b.orr4 on Dec 8, 2009 12:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
the Lerners are notorious for bringing penny pinching to new levels in every aspect of their businesses. They’ve got a nasty reputation.
by RedBirdie on Dec 8, 2009 12:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
We should start our own talk show: Hockey Fans Talk About Baseball.
"My face is my mask."
by jakeshapiro on Dec 8, 2009 1:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Tom Boswell is convinced that baseball and hockey are the sports for smart people.
by RedBirdie on Dec 8, 2009 2:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe, there are a lot of numbers thrown around in baseball talk, but also fairly different. I love hockey, but get bored watching baseball. I’d much rather watch Schultz lumber around wrecking havok on opposing forwards than a baseball. Maybe it’s just me, but baseball and Jason Mraz are the same to me, good for naps.
They laughed at Columbus, they laughed at Fulton, they laughed at the Wright brothers. But they also laughed at Bozo the Clown.
by Bman21212 on Dec 8, 2009 3:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I"ve always wondered
why is baseball my favorite sport? It’s undeniably the most boring sport (except for football, but that’s only because of all the commercial breaks) and my team hasn’t been a winner since I was ten.
I have to conclude from this that I am just a boring, perennial loser.
by Steve. on Dec 8, 2009 3:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m a baseball fan, also. Baseball was my favorite sport until Ovi and his friends came along.
Rocking the Red since 1975
by CapsFan75 on Dec 8, 2009 8:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I believe every word of this, but I don’t like it!
"Let the rest be scared of us." - Emo Bunny Sasha Semin
by Scott in Shaw on Dec 8, 2009 2:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
TEB has goodies on Green’s face (oh god, not his face!), Bruce beaming, and the answer to all those #needsmoreBradley requests, little Henry James.
by RedBirdie on Dec 8, 2009 12:21 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Hank Jim Brads
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by jordanDC on Dec 8, 2009 12:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
aww, henry james… i actually do like that :)
"No Brooks Laich, no win. Know Brooks Laich, know win."
by kellobellow on Dec 8, 2009 12:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I wholeheartedly approve….
And for those of you who don’t know who this guy is…well, they must have changed the high school English reading cuuriculum since I was in school (“The Turn of the Screw?”…AIEEEEEEEEEEE!!!)
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by ThePeerless on Dec 8, 2009 12:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t think Henry James’ wife was a fan of Henry James.
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by ThePeerless on Dec 8, 2009 12:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I like his brother Jimmy better
Ron and Fez 11 to 3
by YvonLabresMoustache on Dec 8, 2009 1:08 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Newsradio = automatic rec.
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by Bald Pollack on Dec 8, 2009 1:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
they must have changed the high school English reading cuuriculum since I was in school
I have no problem with teaching calculus to 17-year olds, but I don’t understand the purpose of trying to shove Henry James or James Joyce or William Faulkner down their throats. Kids that age just don’t have the maturity, the ballast to really understand that stuff. All it does is turn them off of it for years, sometimes forever…
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Dec 8, 2009 3:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Still won’t go near James Joyce.
You're the reason that I hate Nova Scotia.
by Fehr and Balanced on Dec 8, 2009 3:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Faulkner is perfectly accessible given a teacher with a decent understanding/students who can keep multiple plot lines in their heads at once.
As I Lay Dying is one of the best novels I’ve ever read, and I’d recommend it to anybody, teenagers included.
by DrinkingPartner on Dec 8, 2009 4:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The first Faulkner that popped into my head was the Sound and the Fury…which I would not have enjoyed reading at 17.
by mch on Dec 8, 2009 4:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i read the the sound and the fury in 11th grade…enjoyed it….but admittedly, without the cliffs notes i’d have been sunk.
by Natty Bumppo on Dec 8, 2009 5:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I chuck, chuck, chucked it as soon as I could. Not a fan. I don’t think my class really got it either.
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Dec 8, 2009 5:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Great Expectations did it for me… never again did I read a full book for school. I still read but on my timeframe
by MetalCap on Dec 8, 2009 8:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
All-time best chapter in American Literature…“My mother is a fish”.
by mechanicsville on Dec 8, 2009 10:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I got about 100 pages through Finnegan’s Wake because I’m stubborn. After that, it was just too much and I gave up.
Think Ulysses, except 10 times less coherent.
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by Knee high to a duck on Dec 8, 2009 7:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
About 3 pages of Portrait of the Artist was all I needed and then I dropped AP English.
You're the reason that I hate Nova Scotia.
by Fehr and Balanced on Dec 8, 2009 9:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’ve heard ridiculous things about FInnegan’s Wake. It makes me scared to even try it. The only Joyce I’ve read is Dubliners.
"So much on my mind I just can't recline. Blastin' holes in the night 'til she bled sunshine."
by Laich It Or Lump It on Dec 8, 2009 9:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’d hold right there with Joyce and move with great haste to Mark Twain.
by mechanicsville on Dec 8, 2009 10:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I had an English class in high school where we all basically mutinied and refused to read the assigned literature. The teacher was baffled and it was AWESOME.
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by jordanDC on Dec 8, 2009 10:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Wonder what Henry he's named after?
"My face is my mask."
by jakeshapiro on Dec 8, 2009 1:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t see Bradley naming his son after a professional negotiator – unless that sucker-punch gave him a change of heart and he’s going to talk out his differences with enforcers from now on?
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by winterion on Dec 8, 2009 1:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe he just misspelled Henrik?
They laughed at Columbus, they laughed at Fulton, they laughed at the Wright brothers. But they also laughed at Bozo the Clown.
by Bman21212 on Dec 8, 2009 3:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I just saw Brindy was a healthy scratch last night in Carolina. Beginning of the end. They waived Leighton as well. With Ward coming back tomorrow and them actually thinking about playing guys who can produce I suspect they will be a harder team to play this week than last. If nothing else playing a true NHL goaltender will make things harder.
A man gotta have a code
by CP2Devil on Dec 8, 2009 12:41 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
they waived Leighton rather than Legace? okaaaaaaaaaay.
by RedBirdie on Dec 8, 2009 12:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think it was a move to send him down to their AHL team – Legace’s getting more than Leighton, they’re probably looking at him as a solid backup for Ward.
And make up your own definition of “solid”. (Although I do love Legace, he’s a funny guy…)
by Becca H on Dec 8, 2009 12:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Leighton is flat out awful. Legace is a veteran who has starter experience.
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by Whiter Mage on Dec 8, 2009 12:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
And he’s funny, too.
My ability to post is only surpassed by my ability to pinch pennies.
by jordanDC on Dec 8, 2009 1:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
and the Canes goalie of the future is, well, Cam Ward. All they need is a competent backup. If Legace is good enough, why not go with him?
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Dec 8, 2009 3:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Sense of humor couldn’t hurt down there these days, eh?
My ability to post is only surpassed by my ability to pinch pennies.
by jordanDC on Dec 8, 2009 3:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I was just happy that they won last night. Seeing the Pens lose is never a bad thing.
Unleash the Alex!
by gotsparkly on Dec 8, 2009 12:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Carolina’s first (!) road win. This entire season.
ALEX, FЯEE
by Your Nation's Capital on Dec 8, 2009 12:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
And against the Penguins! How sweet it is. :-D
FЯEED ALEX! NOW LOOK OUT, NHL!
by IRockTheRed on Dec 8, 2009 12:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
thank you, jebus, for the early christmas gift!
by RedBirdie on Dec 8, 2009 12:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
T’is the season, right? Speaking of Christmas gifts, who am I secret-Santa for this year? Mage?
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by winterion on Dec 8, 2009 1:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Kind of mind boggling that the Pens lost to Carolina and the Thrash lost to the Leafs…too bad it’s December and not March.
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by fat_daddyo on Dec 8, 2009 1:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If those are playoff matchups this year, I’ll eat my hat.
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