Southeast Strength
by Becca H on Dec 7, 2009 2:00 PM EST
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With a commanding 6-2 victory over the Panthers Thursday night, the Capitals improved their record against Southeast Division teams to a sparkling 6-0-0. They also remain the only team to be undefeated within their own division so far – by a wide margin – and have played in three and a half of those games without their top scorer.
Let’s put that in historical perspective.
The Southeast Division has been around in its current incarnation for a decade; the Caps have won said division four times. Yet in that time, the Caps have never once started a season with six straight wins against division rivals. The closest they came was in the 2002-03 season, when they went 4-1-1, way back when that last number stood for a tie. They’ve also outscored their division opponents 29-16 for their largest goal differential to date.
…er, for the good, anyway. We’ll conveniently ignore 2005-06, when the Caps not only went 0-5-1 through six Southeast games but were also outscored 31-10.
Equally impressive is head coach Bruce Boudreau's record against the Southeast since taking over the helm early in the 2007-08 season. When he came onboard, the team had dropped six straight division battles. Since then, the team's interdivision record is 37-13-2:
- vs. Carolina - 7-6-0
- vs. Florida - 10-4-1
- vs. Atlanta - 9-3-1
- vs. Tampa Bay - 11-0-0
Of course, leading the division will always trigger references to the SouthLeast (…get it? Because "East" and "Least" rhyme, ha ha). It’s long been tradition for fans of other teams to insinuate that the Caps, or whichever team happens to lead, is less respectable as a top three seed merely on the basis of the teams against whom they compete.
So it’s worth pointing out that the Southeast currently has three teams above the playoff line – more than any other division in the East – with a fourth team, Florida, sitting just three points out (and tied with the Flyers). And that the very competitive Central Division teams have similar point totals to those in the Southeast. And in reality, in this day and age of parity, there are simply no easy divisions.
At the end of the day, you still have to win the games – and the Caps are doing just that.
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Overpitched narrative is overpitched. I imagine we’re all a little sick of the anti-SE line.
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Indeed. Unfortunately the sad truth is that when the division was first created, it was pretty pathetic – and because there will probably never be a year when when all 5 teams make the postseason, other teams will forever look down on the SE.
We know better, though. The SE teams have been some of the toughest opponents for the Caps over the course of a decade – just because they Caps have come out on top more often than not, that fact shouldn’t be diminished.
6-0-0? They should be 8-0-0 against that pathetic division. The only reason they aren’t is because they don’t play any defense and the goalies suck
Plus AO is a dirty player.
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Is that what it sounds like over your head?
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by Laich It Or Lump It on Dec 7, 2009 2:23 PM EST up reply actions
How’s a team supposed to be 8-0-0 when they’ve only played 6 intradivisional games. That would take some amazing talent to win more games than what’s been played. Extra credit anyone? And how do you earn the extra credit?
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Calibrate your Geiger Counter to ‘snark’. Mine’s going nuts.
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by Knee high to a duck on Dec 7, 2009 6:07 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Not everyone has that mode on their Geiger Counter. I think they all come standard with “read all the posts” though.
by sixsevenfiftysix on Dec 7, 2009 6:11 PM EST up reply actions
Agreed. Anybody really paying attention to the (whole) NHL right now has noticed that ATL has put together a good, young club — and that they have the cap space to make moves at the deadline if ownership is willing…
…and able. Can they take on more salary before sorting out the ownership dispute?
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by Fehr and Balanced on Dec 7, 2009 2:27 PM EST up reply actions
Or even if they do sort out the ownership quagmire. They’ve gotta be a money pit… and Kovy’s contract is on the way.
I’d say that’s probably a good problem for them. Until a month ago it looked like he’d walk, but with that core of young talent they may be able to convince him to stay. I just wonder if they have the financial security to lock him into one of those retirement contracts and save some on the cap hit.
I don’t know enough about their finances to really know what they can afford, but I know a lot of people that are more familiar with the ATL market than I am think there is a lot of potential there. If they keep winning they may be able to turn it around.
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by Fehr and Balanced on Dec 7, 2009 2:37 PM EST up reply actions
I think that I saw a rumor somewhere that Kovy is very interested in returning home. I’ll poke around and see if I can come up with where I saw it, but it will bury the Thrash if they lost him.
"I think the relentless negative coverage in The Washington Post is a real difference from previous years," Redskins general counsel David Donovan said. "But in terms of the way our actual fans are behaving, we don't see any difference."
Especially if they lose him for nothing.
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by Fehr and Balanced on Dec 7, 2009 2:41 PM EST up reply actions
The SE did suck for a long time, but all that sucking has turned into awesome young talent. Stamkos, Enstrom, the Young Guns.Give it a few years and if the markets will support them, it will be the SouthBeast (see what I did there…)
"I think the relentless negative coverage in The Washington Post is a real difference from previous years," Redskins general counsel David Donovan said. "But in terms of the way our actual fans are behaving, we don't see any difference."
That’s been much-discussed pretty much everywhere. However Kovy has never expressed any particular Sugden-ian KHL lust (joke), but the KHL has openly lusted after him. I think 28 is a more likely KHLer than Kovy.
So do I. I get the impression that Kovy has more drive and competitiveness and wants to beat the best. I don’t remember where I read it but I think Kovy likes ATL and would be willing to stay, but not for a decade of losing.
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by Fehr and Balanced on Dec 7, 2009 3:00 PM EST up reply actions
The most iteresting portion of Ovi’s interview with the syncro-swimmer was how he compared the NHL to the hometown league. Basically, they don’t compare.
"I think the relentless negative coverage in The Washington Post is a real difference from previous years," Redskins general counsel David Donovan said. "But in terms of the way our actual fans are behaving, we don't see any difference."
Agreed that Semin is more likely to go than Kovy, but on both counts I’m scared of some crazed Russian owner offering them $10m+/year.
The thing is they don’t even need to be offered that much. If they get offered 5 million over there it’s really 5 million. There aren’t a bunch of US taxes, escrows, state taxes, living expenses, etc.
If you’re a KHL player you’re pretty much living the good life (minus the arenas and medical staff)
They call him nightmare...
But you can’t win a The Cup and you won’t have your name compared with the all-time greats(least not any time soon).
Those guys care about the NHL. Only the players that have no or little chance at breaking records and being immortalized, or even get little ice time, go there. It’s a paycheck.
The fact that lifer AHLers are thriving over there says a lot.
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I was thinking the same thing. But he still lights up the AHL, so I’m okay with him helping the Bears to another Calder Cup.
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by Scott in Shaw on Dec 7, 2009 4:03 PM EST up reply actions
The AHL lifers are overwhelmingly North American. It’s easier when you’re in your own culture nearer to your own family.
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by Fehr and Balanced on Dec 7, 2009 3:59 PM EST up reply actions
Not to mention there is a 5-non-Russians per team limit in the KHL…
I could say something snarky about another non-Russian player we’d love to see go to the KHL, but I shan’t.
FЯEED ALEX! NOW LOOK OUT, NHL!
Is that kind of like the 1/3rd radio rule in Canda?
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[thru clentched teeth] By gum I think he’s right Muffy. The taxes on my 6 million a year in the U.S. are just kiling me. I mean have you SEEN what they want for Yacht wax in the U.S. these days! Heaven forbid I may have to share a helicopter if things don’t get better soon!
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by Chris meet Alex on Dec 7, 2009 5:07 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I mentioned this in a thread a few months ago, but
Let’s take a gander at the ‘08-’09 season.
The Caps went 12-4-4 vs. NE. No one outside of NE matched this record.
The Caps went 14-2-4 vs. ATL. No one outside of ATL matched this record.
The Caps went 16-8-0 vs. SE. No one else matched this record.
So yes, while I’ll admit the Southeast Division may be the weakest in some cases, the Caps would be performing at the top of the East regardless of where they were placed.
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Pfft, the Caps wouldn’t last a second in the Atlantic Division! They only have success because their dirty clown of a star gets to rack up goals against all the weak teams in the south!
You can't "FЯEE ALEX" because it's impossible to contain him in the first place.
by PaintDrinkingPete on Dec 7, 2009 2:16 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Yeah, and there are no weak teams at all in the Atlantic. Go Flyers.
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by Laich It Or Lump It on Dec 7, 2009 2:22 PM EST up reply actions
All i watch is looney tunes! GO FLYERS!
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by Kevin Sellathamby on Dec 7, 2009 3:40 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Ha. I should have known a PPPer would sniff out the Go Flyers tangent.
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by Fehr and Balanced on Dec 7, 2009 3:44 PM EST up reply actions
What do you have against Looney Tunes? I also watch Tiny Toon Adventures, or would were it still on.
…go flyers…
Now drink with me deeply of the bourbon, scotch, and rye until such time as we are fighting drunk.
by Steckel Me Elmo on Dec 7, 2009 4:14 PM EST up reply actions
And Bradley is a pussy for not defending himself and getting knocked out by Carcillo even though he high sticked him, led with a knee, and gloved him in the head! Bradley also clearly threw a punch at Carcillo so he deserved a 5 and probably the instigator. And I’m smarter than all of you and will never reconsider my position! Go MarioD!
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by Fehr and Balanced on Dec 7, 2009 2:29 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
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by winterion on Dec 7, 2009 2:31 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
RecD
Love the new MSPaint showing how Ovi taught Brads how to lead with his knee.
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by Scott in Shaw on Dec 7, 2009 2:32 PM EST up reply actions
Ew…I know you’re channeling Flyers fans, but could you refrain from using the ‘p’ word please? Gracias.
Other than that…that was eerily accurate, nice.
I used words and claims directly from his own posts. I’m sorry that I offended it, and I hope you realize that I don’t throw words around like that with any frequency, I just used it for historical accuracy.
You're the reason that I hate Nova Scotia.
by Fehr and Balanced on Dec 7, 2009 2:34 PM EST up reply actions
Ah. It’s okay – I figured it was something like that! You’re not usually one for foul language in that sense (unless you’re telling people to go eat a fucking porcupine) so I’m not completely offended. That’s just one of the few words I really hate.
Go Flyers!
Am I reading the right blog? The only time I would expect the “normal cast of characters” to say “Go Flyers” is if they were playing the team from Western PA whose mascot is the flightless waddling bird from the Antarctic.
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Read the link that PaintDrinkingPete posted, it’ll explain it for you.
by sixsevenfiftysix on Dec 7, 2009 6:12 PM EST up reply actions
MarioCD likes to keep it clean. Gonna shine like a sun beam.
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by Laich It Or Lump It on Dec 7, 2009 2:52 PM EST up reply actions
Keeps on crappin’ cuz that’s his theme. Beat by F&B who’s keepin’ it lean. When it comes to my post all is green. Jealous of the love, even from the wrong team. Another new SBN galaxy. But Japers’ Rink’s extraordinary.
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by Fehr and Balanced on Dec 7, 2009 3:04 PM EST up reply actions 15 recs
From the family tree of old school troll slop
Kicks off his posts with a “dirty player” knock
His Cled will spread until he gets rocked
By a blog for a team with a real Cup shot
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by Laich It Or Lump It on Dec 7, 2009 3:23 PM EST up reply actions 7 recs
Despite all other advice, I will let the rec drop.
Now drink with me deeply of the bourbon, scotch, and rye until such time as we are fighting drunk.
by Steckel Me Elmo on Dec 7, 2009 4:16 PM EST up reply actions
That is all pure platinum…. mashitup with The Wire somehow and THEN you’ve got somethin!
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by Chris meet Alex on Dec 7, 2009 5:18 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
“So you’re saying, every time you talk to him he makes ridiculous arguments and calls you a ball licker?”
“Yeah”
“And you guys still let him argue with you?”
“Yeah man, it’s BSH. You gots to.”
You're the reason that I hate Nova Scotia.
by Fehr and Balanced on Dec 7, 2009 6:53 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
It especially works well since Snot Boogy would be a pretty fitting name for MarioD.
Of all our iniquities ignorance may be the worst
by Killer_Carlson on Dec 7, 2009 8:33 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Got these ones straight off Puck Daddy’s comments board from fans:
What a joke. Not that I disagree with the suspension, Carcillo did his dirt and now he has to sit, it’s just that he sucker-punches a guy (who accepted a challenge to fight) and he gets 4? Meanwhile, Ovechkin “plays hard” every game, usually around people’s knees or when they’re facing the boards and he gets 2? Whatever. Go Flyers!
Do you see what you’ve done? You’ve gotten me all twitchy and I misspelled ADMINISTRATION! I hope Ovechkin gets mauled by a llama, or some other embarrassing type animal. Go Flyers!
Once Lavi rights this ship it’ll be the black and orange that hoists the Cup in June and there won’t be a damn thing the refs or the league can do about it…unless there’s a mysterious sudden reason to cancel the season to prevent that, and with Buttman at the helm I wouldn’t put anything past him. He’s another Bush- a d*ckhead in charge. Thank GOD one reign ended…let’s hope the other is close too. Go Flyers!!
Typical. Whenever a hero like ovechkin or crosby does something [profane]ty, it gets let go and overlooked. But when a flyer does something that every other team’s “goon” is doing they get nailed to the cross. If fighting is going to have a place in the game of hockey then this is what is to be expected. there is no such thing as “fighting nice” (sorry mom) It’s nice to see old school flyer hockey back in the game. Pick up your pants emery and join the fun like hextall. GO FLYERS!!
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by winterion on Dec 7, 2009 2:54 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Rec’d for proving PPP’s point.
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by Laich It Or Lump It on Dec 7, 2009 3:12 PM EST up reply actions
mauled by a llama? oh my god, I’m near tears, trying not to laugh. Almost as awesome as eating one of these
Awww. Kerry Fraser looks cold.
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by winterion on Dec 7, 2009 3:14 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
#needsmorehairwax
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by Knee high to a duck on Dec 7, 2009 3:15 PM EST up reply actions
They have three teams in the top eight because they get to beat up on one another. See they all suck so they all… wait…
"I think the relentless negative coverage in The Washington Post is a real difference from previous years," Redskins general counsel David Donovan said. "But in terms of the way our actual fans are behaving, we don't see any difference."
Brandon Sugden
Just as a side note, Brandon Sugden has accepted a contract with Vityaz of the KHL. I wish him all the best over there, and I seriously hope Vityaz can honor the contract they gave him, which is apparently better than he had in Hershey…
Vityaz is sitting ugly in dead-last place in the KHL, and has been for quite a while. They’ve got 27 points, and are two points out of 23rd – and have played 31 games to Metallurg Novokuznetsk’s 30.
By contrast, the top team in the KHL (Metallurg Magnitogorsk, which has our very own Sergei Fedorov) has 75 points, and Salavat Yulaev (with Viktor Kozlov) is in 3rd place with 70 points. 2nd place SKA has 73.
FЯEED ALEX! NOW LOOK OUT, NHL!
So I guess calling him up for the next Flyers game is out of the question.
by sixsevenfiftysix on Dec 7, 2009 2:59 PM EST up reply actions
His skating already made it out of the question.
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by Fehr and Balanced on Dec 7, 2009 3:07 PM EST up reply actions
I was looking forward to seeing him square off with Duco.
"I think the relentless negative coverage in The Washington Post is a real difference from previous years," Redskins general counsel David Donovan said. "But in terms of the way our actual fans are behaving, we don't see any difference."
If it wasn’t for his dad I don’t even think he gets in that pre-season game to fight Brash. He’s not anywhere close to NHL caliber. Good for him for getting his money and going to a league that stills enjoys lawless fighting.
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by Fehr and Balanced on Dec 7, 2009 3:12 PM EST up reply actions
Neither is Duco, but that doesn’t mean they can’t be brought up for a boxing match on ice.
And absolutely, good on him. Despite the fact he can’t keep up with the NHL let alone the AHL he still managed to get paid to dress and play in the second and third best leagues in the world.
"I think the relentless negative coverage in The Washington Post is a real difference from previous years," Redskins general counsel David Donovan said. "But in terms of the way our actual fans are behaving, we don't see any difference."
I found some articles written over a year ago, such as this, that refer to his dad’s terminal illness, but couldn’t find anything more recent. Based on your comment, his dad is still hanging in there?
Have no idea about his dad, I know he saw him fight Brash. I will admit that when I saw he went to the KHL I thought that was probably bad news regarding his dad. Maybe he’s just trying to make money while he can, but I can tell you that it’s very hard for a person to leave their father when his days are numbered. Especially when they are as close as Sugden seemed to be with his dad.
You're the reason that I hate Nova Scotia.
by Fehr and Balanced on Dec 7, 2009 4:01 PM EST up reply actions
History is obviously not on our side in the effort to earn garner respect for the SE divison. The Caps, founded in 1974, are the grizzled old vets of the division. Florida, Tampa and Atlanta all started up in the 90s. Carolina got its team in ‘97 (although they were previously the Hartford Whalers). When you say Flyers, Canadiens even Maple Leafs, there’s a certain wheightiness associated with these names which comes from their histories – even if they all currently suck. As time goes by, this too shall change. Kind like the AFC/NFC thing in football.
Turns out not. SE has 2 recent Cups and still gets knocked.
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by Fehr and Balanced on Dec 7, 2009 3:08 PM EST up reply actions
Luck and hot goaltending. Those two cups were a joke.
"I think the relentless negative coverage in The Washington Post is a real difference from previous years," Redskins general counsel David Donovan said. "But in terms of the way our actual fans are behaving, we don't see any difference."
You could say that about almost every Cup. They still won them.
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by Fehr and Balanced on Dec 7, 2009 3:12 PM EST up reply actions
Someone said something about not being able to hear criticism with Stanley Cup Rings in their ears.
There are those who have their names eternally engraved on the Cup and those who don’t.
Until then, those who don’t will have to suffer the “19-NEVER” chants and wonder the afterlife blind or something. Maybe that’s vikings.
MOTIVATE SEMIN
Patrick Roy. Greatest smake talk of all time.
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by Fehr and Balanced on Dec 7, 2009 3:18 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Rec’d for bringing the smakedown.
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by Laich It Or Lump It on Dec 7, 2009 3:25 PM EST up reply actions
I was about to point out that luck and hot goaltending are pretty much the usual routes to a Cup…then realized you were probably being snarktastic. I hope.
But in all seriousness, those 2 Cups probably don’t look as good when you examine what happened to the teams right after they won. Tampa took on too many big contracts and crumbled (having the misfortune of being the last non-cap team to win), while Carolina failed to make the playoffs the next year. It’s hard to remember how good those teams were when they sucked so bad afterward.
snarktastic
Absolutely, shame on F&B for missing that. Shame shame…
"I think the relentless negative coverage in The Washington Post is a real difference from previous years," Redskins general counsel David Donovan said. "But in terms of the way our actual fans are behaving, we don't see any difference."
Commenter’s remorse set in right after I clicked “post.”
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by Fehr and Balanced on Dec 7, 2009 3:17 PM EST up reply actions
You hastily make post. Then you get called. Then you go to corner and feel shame.
MOTIVATE SEMIN
by Holt Worth on Dec 7, 2009 3:22 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Sounds like what 28 would do with a narration by 8. Nice
by red army line on Dec 7, 2009 3:40 PM EST up reply actions
I go to the box and feel shame.
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by Fehr and Balanced on Dec 7, 2009 3:23 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Nice one...
rec’d
"I think the relentless negative coverage in The Washington Post is a real difference from previous years," Redskins general counsel David Donovan said. "But in terms of the way our actual fans are behaving, we don't see any difference."
I’m trying to figure out how many the Northeast has in that time-span. Oh yeah. Ha.
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by Knee high to a duck on Dec 7, 2009 3:11 PM EST up reply actions
Atlantic = 15 Cups
Northeast = 42 Cups (thanks to Montreal’s 24)
Just give us some time, though . . .
42 – 24 = 18 Cups – just take Montreal out of it, they make that division way more awesome than they should be ;)
[hides Habs flag]
Also, the teams in the Southeast are relatively young. The Habs have won 24 over 100 years (did you guys hear it was their centennial year this year??), the Rangers went eons between Cups, the Leafs haven’t won since ’67, etc. 2 Cups from relative infant teams? Not bad.
Was their centennial this year or last year? It seems like they’ve been celebrating since 2007.
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The 100th anniversary of their first game was this past week.
by red army line on Dec 7, 2009 3:41 PM EST up reply actions
So between the end of Year 99 and the end of Year 100 was the “centennial” I guess
by red army line on Dec 7, 2009 3:42 PM EST up reply actions
plus there were less teams back when the Leafs and Habs won most of their cups. Thus odds of winning were higher
And the Habs had the benefit of one of the most ridiculously protectionist “prospect allocation” systems ever to be employed by a legitimate sport.
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by Fehr and Balanced on Dec 7, 2009 3:24 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
All prospects within the Montreal area (maybe all of Quebec, I forget how many miles, I think 50) were automatically MON property. The rest of the league had to divide the other prospects. This was a huge advantage at a time when there were almost no European players, very few western Canadian players, and relatively few American players. Basically it left Quebec to the Habs, and Ontario, Mass.and the upper mid-west to the other 5 teams.
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by Fehr and Balanced on Dec 7, 2009 3:30 PM EST up reply actions
True story. Orlov especially.
You're the reason that I hate Nova Scotia.
by Fehr and Balanced on Dec 7, 2009 3:38 PM EST up reply actions
Philly passed on Varly because he was Russian, too. And they knew damn well the Caps would pick him and get him to come over because of their Russians.
Philly passed on Varly because he was a goalie.
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by Fehr and Balanced on Dec 7, 2009 3:44 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
well, yes, there’s that and all. Philly ain’t the smartest drafting org I’ve seen.
But still! Homgren said, yeah, he’s Russian, we know he won’t sign with us. And yes, we knew Washington would take him and they have all those Russians…..
I’d agree with you, except they churn out forwards that produce year after year. Not quite sure how they manage that.
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by Knee high to a duck on Dec 7, 2009 3:54 PM EST up reply actions
They are just hitting on their first round picks. I can’t think of any contributors that weren’t first round picks or drafted by another team. Their whole D is drafted by other teams, and their homegrown Fs are all first rounders (JVR, Richards, Carter, Gagne).
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by Fehr and Balanced on Dec 7, 2009 4:04 PM EST up reply actions
But with the exception of JVR, late first round picks, with much less certainty attached than guys in the lottery. Nailing top 10 picks is one thing, consistent success down near the bottom is another.
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by Knee high to a duck on Dec 7, 2009 4:08 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Carter was 11, IIRC. That draft was also incredibly deep, so only a total boob would blow their pick that year…
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by Fehr and Balanced on Dec 7, 2009 4:36 PM EST up reply actions
Yoog Specimen!
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by Fehr and Balanced on Dec 7, 2009 4:47 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, it was 50 miles. TOR had the same privilege but didn’t have the same success.
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by Fehr and Balanced on Dec 7, 2009 3:36 PM EST up reply actions
The prospect pipelines were allocated regionally. I.e., instead of a draft, the teams had access to all the prospects that came up in their regional territory. If you were lucky enough to “own” a territory that produced a large number of good players, you had hte inside track on keeping a good team on the ice. Kind of like the University of Florida with college football talent today.
The Canadiens had Quebec and the Maritimes, if I recall correctly.
"You're gonna eat that g**d**n Koho, three!"
Technically they only had absolute rights to players within 50 miles. But they said up “farm teams” all over the place and pulled this KHL style nonsense where once you signed with the minor team (at 15 or 16) they owned your rights until they traded or released you. This was another huge advantage but not as blatant as the 50 mile rule.
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by Fehr and Balanced on Dec 7, 2009 3:37 PM EST up reply actions
They had at least 5 cracks at him. Maybe 6.
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by Fehr and Balanced on Dec 7, 2009 3:31 PM EST up reply actions
Thank god it changed before the 90s, otherwise the Habs would’ve had Marty Brodeur
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by Kevin Sellathamby on Dec 7, 2009 3:39 PM EST up reply actions
I would too, though if i’m correct 19 teams passed on Marty (he was 20th overall).
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by Kevin Sellathamby on Dec 7, 2009 3:43 PM EST up reply actions
Trevor Kidd was 10th!
You're the reason that I hate Nova Scotia.
by Fehr and Balanced on Dec 7, 2009 3:45 PM EST up reply actions
Chris Simon was 25th! Martin Brodeur was deemed just slightly more talented…than Chris Simon.
Mull over that one for a minute.
still miss the Patrick
still can’t get “up” for a Panthers, Lightning, or Thrashers game. Maybe a little for the Canes, but otherwise… yeah. the “SE stigma” will persist for a while until these teams build some history.
The Thrashers will be in the playoffs and anything can happen in – you know the drill.
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i don't deny it
but all i’m saying is, i’m not one of those caps fans that gets defensive about the SE. I think the division sucks, personally, and i wish we were back with Philly, NYR, et. al. But hey… that ship has sailed.
Beer, beer, pee, beer, beer, leave.
You're the reason that I hate Nova Scotia.
by Fehr and Balanced on Dec 7, 2009 3:31 PM EST up reply actions
I know what you were thinking.
You're the reason that I hate Nova Scotia.
by Fehr and Balanced on Dec 7, 2009 3:38 PM EST up reply actions
don't get me wrong, i enjoy every Caps game
but i can’t deny that there’s something a little extra when we play Philly or the Rags or even the Devils. There just is.
We can still be motivated by the hopes that we keep a 100% record in the division this year. Now THAT would be something. We haven’t even surrendered a charity point yet.
by sixsevenfiftysix on Dec 7, 2009 3:34 PM EST up reply actions
Ha, fair enough, but it’s so unlikely to happen that I didn’t take that into consideration. If a Leafs fan predicts that Toronto will win the Stanley Cup this year and they don’t, it’s not because he jinxed it.
by sixsevenfiftysix on Dec 7, 2009 3:41 PM EST up reply actions
That’s like comparing if Semin will break 100 points(currently not likely, but still not impossible) with the possibility of Laich breaking 100 points(yeaaaaah).
As long as it’s not impossible, it’s possible. Er…yeah, that’s what possible and impossible mean.
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You think the Cardiac Caps might go all of their remaining 18 games against Southeast foes (some of which are surely second nights of back-to-backs) without a single loss? Alexandre Giroux has a better chance of breaking 100 points than that.
by sixsevenfiftysix on Dec 7, 2009 3:55 PM EST up reply actions
And what would you have said our odds were of winning the division in ‘07-’08? Stranger things have happened in this world.
Unleash the Alex!
Apologies. I was a hockey and baseball player. I was pitcher even!
So you’ll please forgive me for being inherently superstitious.
Going for goals like the one mentioned above or a shut out or a perfect game requires a Bhuddist-like philosophy. Obviously, those are your ultimate goals, but you can’t think about it, plan on it, or make it a part of your life.
It just has to be. You just work, mindlessly in a way, towards that objective. If it happens, it happens. If you think about the nearly impossible too much it will bog you down and distract your from the day-to-day goal of just being great, which is what makes the ultimate goals possible.
Yes, I do like kool-aid….why do you ask?
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*SPIT*TURN AROUND*SPIT*SIGN OFF, SIGN ON*
FЯEED ALEX! NOW LOOK OUT, NHL!
by IRockTheRed on Dec 7, 2009 3:39 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
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Southeast Standings
| GP | W | L | OTL | PT | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Washington
|
82 | 54 | 15 | 13 | 121 |
|
Atlanta
|
82 | 35 | 34 | 13 | 83 |
|
Carolina
|
82 | 35 | 37 | 10 | 80 |
|
Tampa Bay
|
82 | 34 | 36 | 12 | 80 |
|
Florida
|
82 | 32 | 37 | 13 | 77 |
(updated 4.12.2010 at 9:21 AM EDT)
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