Carcillo Gets Four Games
"Philadelphia Flyers forward Dan Carcillo was suspended for four games by the National Hockey League for his actions during a game on December 5 at the Wachovia Center." - Flyers
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if F&B or some brave soul is interested in a (polite) confrontation, ol’ faithful is waiting for you.
You have a paraphrase?
Listen to Ol' Hank Murphy and eat your damn onions.
by Fehr and Balanced on Dec 6, 2009 3:41 PM EST up reply actions
I’m pretty sure it looks like this
“YADA YADA YADA I WEAR VELCRO SHOES. GO FLYERS!!!1”
Space Weed Says Telling it like it is without a care about the mainstream's feelings
"DO NOT get stuck behind Kyle Wellwood in the buffet line. This isn't really etiquette, but it will prevent you from starving to death"- Down Goes Brown on Etiquette for Jason Spezza's wedding
by Kevin Sellathamby on Dec 6, 2009 5:09 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t have a paraphrase, but if you want to see Geoff pull a demolition job on Mario, have a look at this thread, last two posts.
Only YOU can prevent idiots from commenting!
by Knee high to a duck on Dec 6, 2009 5:17 PM EST up reply actions
i think it's good policy
to stay away from enemy teams’ boards. By all means, read them, but there’s no reason to post.
1. Get and avatar ya bum.
2. As long as you don’t troll I don’t see what’s wrong with it. In fact, I enjoy posting on other boards, Fear the Fin is a good group of people and I had a jolly good time there last night.
"And next year it will be ours."
Except to join in and have a conversation about hockey.
It’s really all about what you bring. If you’re just over there to troll and for general douchery, then you probably shouldn’t be over there, no. If you’re going to have a reasoned discussion with another fanbase with a fresh perspective, there’s no harm (and probably some good) to be had exchanging viewpoints.
Only YOU can prevent idiots from commenting!
by Knee high to a duck on Dec 6, 2009 4:52 PM EST up reply actions
I disagree with that … I post on other boards all the time … some good people out there, just cause they are cheering on the wrong team doesn’t make them the enemy … :)
Ever get the feeling we are on a collision course with reality? (boycott Hollywood!)
by ang6666 on Dec 6, 2009 6:25 PM EST up reply actions
well thought I would see what you guys are saying bout Carcillo being suspended … :)
Ever get the feeling we are on a collision course with reality? (boycott Hollywood!)
by ang6666 on Dec 6, 2009 6:28 PM EST up reply actions
Against my better judgment, I joined BSH and am pointlessly arguing with dear Mario about Carcillo being a punk. He’s the only one over there trying to defend him by saying that Bradley was punching back.
"Let the rest be scared of us." - Emo Bunny Sasha Semin
by Scott in Shaw on Dec 6, 2009 6:31 PM EST up reply actions
As a guy that loves road trips I completely disagree. It’s all about how you carry yourself but talking to opposing fans isn’t bad per se.
Listen to Ol' Hank Murphy and eat your damn onions.
by Fehr and Balanced on Dec 6, 2009 6:49 PM EST up reply actions
And I appreciate the respectful roadtrips others make here. Hooks and Travis always bring an interesting perspective. I may not agree with them, but I’m usually glad they came.
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Dec 6, 2009 7:42 PM EST up reply actions
Exactly, breaking up the group-think and bringing an outside, sometimes neutral, perspective is good for a fan base.
Listen to Ol' Hank Murphy and eat your damn onions.
by Fehr and Balanced on Dec 6, 2009 7:43 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
This. So this. There are other blogs out there that fall into group think and all the good content goes away and all dissenting opinions are shouted down. We’re all human, we’re not immune to this and encouraging other viewpoints is one of the best ways to combat this.
The more outside viewpoints (so long as they’re well reasoned) we can get, the better.
Only YOU can prevent idiots from commenting!
by Knee high to a duck on Dec 6, 2009 7:47 PM EST up reply actions
Loved your last reply to MarioD over at BSH.
"Let the rest be scared of us." - Emo Bunny Sasha Semin
by Scott in Shaw on Dec 7, 2009 10:06 AM EST up reply actions
I love that it’s green. Since I’ve sworn off my last Huckleberry I’ve been looking for a new one. I’ve got no qualms about making him look dumb on his own site. My favorite part is how much the guys that run BSH love it.
Listen to Ol' Hank Murphy and eat your damn onions.
by Fehr and Balanced on Dec 7, 2009 12:24 PM EST up reply actions
While I generally don’t think it matters that much whether Carcillo watches from the bench or the press box, I’m not sure his early (sucker) punch really warrants 4 games – both players were lining up to fight. The 9-minute PP already removed any chance of the Flyers winning last night’s game – one ensured team loss seems like more of a punishment than 4 games in the press box anyhow.
I think the 4 games happened because Brads got injured. Anyone know how he is doing?
But really the major should have taken care of it, maybe 2. 4 seems a bit excessive, but might be a nice present for the coach. Who wants that player the next game? Damn that was a dumb penalty to get. If brads gave the flyers a 9 minute powerplay Bruce would have been livid and probably sat him the next game or so.
They laughed at Columbus, they laughed at Fulton, they laughed at the Wright brothers. But they also laughed at Bozo the Clown.
According to Bruce, he seems okay and will ride the bike today. If he passes that test he should play Monday.
I think it’s partly because Carcillo is not a first-time offender, and like others here, I have to think that the suspension is a mercy to Laviolette more than anything else.
FЯEE ALEX
Yea I read on the flyers board someone posted
“Time for a 4 game winning streak now that Carcillo is gone”
And I’m glad Brads is doing ok. Thankfully he had the super helmet on. Otherwise he might be more messed up
They laughed at Columbus, they laughed at Fulton, they laughed at the Wright brothers. But they also laughed at Bozo the Clown.
and judging by the Flyers posts, comments, etc, Carcillo doesn’t have much of a future in the NHL with the new head coach… many are predicating/hoping he’s just cut out-right sooner than later
When he’s not being a moron, Carcillo’s a decent player, sadly. Case in point – Flyers first goal last night.
Wasn’t he a Penguin originally?
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Yes.
Listen to Ol' Hank Murphy and eat your damn onions.
by Fehr and Balanced on Dec 7, 2009 12:34 AM EST up reply actions
Good point, and that’s where any practical injustice might lie. I think this is akin to the Brashear suspension in the playoffs – league throwing the book at a repeat offender who hurt someone maliciously. I think the circumstances are a little more mitigating here, but I suspect Laviolette might be happy to hear this.
The suspension takes away Laviolette’s opportunity to make an example of Carcillo.
It would have sent a bigger message for the team to sit him than the league.
I reject this association!
Inigo—though a Spaniard—is honorable, and relishes looking his tormentor in the eye. (Also recycles the cloak…)
Maybe Instead
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Holy crap, I was trying to figure it out. That’s exactly who he looks like, right down to the terrible ’stache.
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by Knee high to a duck on Dec 6, 2009 4:53 PM EST up reply actions
New Caps Scoring Strategy
Goad the lowest IQ/biggest thug on the opposing team.
All you need is a few extra penalties per game, and you will statistically win since the difference between the best and worst teams is only around <1 GPG.
More on PANTHER TARGETS:
Player PIM Minor Major
1 Bryan Allen 45 10 5
2 Keith Ballard 33 14 1
3 Michael Frolik 33 8 1
4 Mike Duco 31 3 1
5 Kenndal McArdle 29 2 5
maybe Varly will take one to the mask for the team.
(This is DMG bait…)
I think part of the reason the suspension is so long is that Bradley was hurt pretty badly. And I think that’s good. Because I think injuries and the results of hits ought to be taken into account when deciding on a suspension.
The reason I think this is that the physical result of the hit often gives insight into the state of mind of the aggressor. There are certain hits that cannot but cause an injury, including a punch to the face when the victim is not yet ready, or an intentional slew foot, or an intentional knee on knee. Kronwall’s extensive injury is evidence of how much Laraque put behind his knee-on-knee trip. David Booth’s concussion is evidence of just how hard Richards hit him. Meanwhile, Peverley, Kaleta, and Gleason were all fine. If Ovechkin had really intended to slew-foot Peverly, or to smash Kaleta into the boards, or to wreck Gleason’s knee, then those guys would not have gotten up.
To be clear, I’m 100% of the opinion that only intentions matter when assessing a suspension. Did the aggressor intend harm? Did he just not care about the other player’s welfare? Carcillo certainly intended to hit Bradley when Bradley’s guard was down, but how hard did Carcillo intend to hit him? Well, Bradley went straight down, and didn’t get up without help. That’s pretty good evidence that Carcillo intended to harm him. And because that was Carcillo’s intent was to harm, the full suspension is justified.
Let me be clear on what I’m not saying — I’m not saying that injuries should be the only factor. After all, sometimes folks get very lucky or very unlucky. But neither should injuries be ignored. Everything should be looked at. Video evidence is not foolproof. If David Booth had gotten up and skated away, that would have been reason to believe that Richards pulled up a bit, even if we couldn’t see it on film. The fact that Booth is still out gives us a good insight on what exactly Richards was trying to do — he was trying to hit Booth’s head as hard as he could. Injuries are just one more piece of the puzzle.
Atta dinnin stick a who!
aw, c'mon.
Boiled to the point of absurdity (internet!), one could conclude more leeway to cheapshot those who can better take a punch. If Betts has a harder head, is Brash’s hit cleaner? How come four minutes to high-stick Brads—“skin like paper”—and two to do the same to Fehr, who’s either made of leather or bleeds clear fluid?
Of course, I think a real cheap shot—Simon/Bertuzzi stuff—should cost you ‘ten games more than the guy you mugged’, however long that may be. So my whole post is more mute than smake.
I have nothing of value to add, I just hate mike richards.
by aaw6848 on Dec 6, 2009 8:46 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
What about that fact that it was clearly a sucker punch?
Is there no honor in hockey fights anymore? I think a good bit of the suspension is based on the fact that Carcillo coldcocked Brads before the gloves were off. It’s one thing to goad a player into fighting, it’s another to so clearly cheapshot him.
As far as I’m concerned Carcillo will never be anything more than a siss little b*tch because hedidn’t give Brads a chance to swing.
A danger to myself and others on the ice
Carcillo is definitely a tough, tough man. And with that fact – I think players like that SHOULD be held to a different standard in regards to plays like this. Carcillo’s been around the block before with the rough stuff, guys like him need to know when and when not to do it – since that’s really all carcillo is good for..
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