Wednesday Caps Clips: Sabres @ Caps Game Day
Your savory breakfast links:
- The Caps and Sabres face off for the third time this season, and if the first two meetings are any indication, scoring the first goal will be pretty important - both games ended up as shutouts for the home team, first in D.C., then in Buffalo. Here are previews of tonight's game from Vogs and NHL.com, and be sure to check out our SB Nation partner Die By The Blade for coverage from the other side of tonight's match up.
- It looks as if the Sabres will be without Tomas Vanek tonight, while Patrick Kaleta is iffy.
- Speaking of injuries, why the Caps are always so coy with theirs. [WaPo]
- Stop the presses - is OFB coming around on Jeff Schultz? [OFB]
- One year ago tonight, birthday boy Shaone Morrisonn capped "The Miracle in Manhattan" with his overtime goal (do yourself a favor and watch the highlights, after the jump). Including that win, the Caps have gone 52-21-11 in the regular season since, outscoring opponents by an average of 3.43 to 2.83, scoring on 25.4% of their power play opportunities and killing off 80.3% of their times shorthanded.
- "10 Things You Should Know About..." Brendan Morrison. [Capitals]
- Here's a bonus 11th thing you should know about BMo: he has one goal in his last dozen games. When asked about his slump, he responded, "It's been a tough stretch. I have to get out of it. It starts in practice, bearing down in practice and it carries over to games. I don't know why it has got to this point. I don't think I've been comfortable; I'm trying to prove myself every night. Obviously, it's a big year. I need to show I can still do this. It's a funk. I'm frustrated. I guess the silver lining is we're winning." You guess? [Capitals Insider]
- Brooks Laich is also looking to get back on track. [TWT]
- Steve Kolbe "Takes 5" with Mike Green. [Caps365 (audio)]
- Green is neither trending up, nor down for Team Canada... [CTV]
- ... Though Mike Babcock said of his defense, "I think we got a real good balance of youth and experience, and I also think we're gonna be able to get up and down the rink which is very, very important as well." That sounds good for Number 52. [CTV]
- Bruce Boudreau talks snow. [Capitals]
- Caps fans rocked the vote for D.C. Athlete of the Decade, now it's time to go to the polls for Reliable Source Person of the Year. [WaPo]
- Should we send Sheldon Souray a Christmas card for not blowing up Alex Ovechkin? [Sportsnet]
- AO takes time after practice to meet with a Ukrainian youth team. [CSN Washington]
- Ovechkin on his style of play: "I play hockey and enjoy it. If you don’t smash somebody, then you’ll be smashed." [RT]
- Adrian Dater has some holiday wishes, and one involves seeing the Caps playing in late May. [Versus]
- And what do the Caps want for Christmas? "An improved defensive game" says Lyle "Spector" Richardson (though the Caps already got their Christmas gift, no?). [FOX Sports]
- The Top 10 Shootout Goals of the Decade feature the Caps a couple of times, including in the top spot. [Puck Daddy]
- Could Mike Knuble make the U.S. Olympic squad? [ESPN]
- Nicklas Backstrom with an attractive young lass. [UNT.se]
- David Steckel is on Defending Big D's Christmas wish list. [Defending Big D]
- "At 21-8-0-2, 44 points, the Bears own the AHL's top points percentage (.710). They've scored the most goals in the league (116) and are tied with Manchester for allowing the second-fewest (70)." Yowza. [Patriot-News]
- Down a level, the Stingrays have the most points and goals for in the ECHL. [ECHL.com]
- Speaking of the Stingrays, they've got one of the League's top rookie, a Russian forward named Nikita Kashirsky who just so happens to be "best buddies with fellow Moscow native Alexander Ovechkin since they both were barely old enough to hold a stick." [NHL.com]
- For you minor league fight fans, here's a look at the Top 10 AHL fights of the decade (including an appearance from a guy who played 50 games for the Caps in the 2000s). [Penguins Insider]
- A look at Russia's WJC squad, which includes a couple of Caps prospects (who were born well after this Christmas card was in circulation). [Hockey's Future]
- HF's also got a look at the U.S. team. [Hockey's Future]
- In other WJC news, Marcus Johansson has been selected to captain Team Sweden. [Aftonbladet]
- Per the HHoF, on this date back in 1983, "Bengt Gustafsson scored his first career hat trick and added an assist to lead the Capitals to a 7-3 win over the New York Islanders in Washington," and 17 years later, "Olaf Kolzig became the winningest goaltender in Washington Capitals' history, when his 129th victory with the team came in a 5-3 win over the Florida Panthers. Kolzig broke the mark of 128 wins set by Don Beaupre." Kolzig would end his Caps career with 301 wins.
- Finally, did I mention it's Shaone Morrisonn's birthday today? He's 27 today.
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Yeah, I had linksplosive linkarrhea.
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by J.P. on Dec 23, 2009 7:45 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I was wondering if there was a blogging list competition set for today that we had missed the notice on.
by HateOffSeason on Dec 23, 2009 8:30 AM EST up reply actions
Could be worse...

Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Dec 23, 2009 9:03 AM EST up reply actions
Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue.
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I support this Adrian Dater Xmas wish:
- Please allow John Tortorella to be miked, uncensored, for every game.
That would be awesome.
I could have been equipment manager, but nooooo!
I’m a big fan of this one:
Please get the NHL Network more ad sponsors so we don’t have to see the "Hockey is for Everyone" house ad anymore.
However, some of his wishes fall into the “just say no” category.
"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."
I think you all know Dustin Byfuglien….Chicago Blackhawks…he’s here today to talk to you and give you some tips….
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Dec 23, 2009 8:46 AM EST up reply actions
And remember….
Hockey is for everyone.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Dec 23, 2009 8:47 AM EST up reply actions
In all honesty, I could live with it if they would just make a new one on the topic. This one has been running for, what, a year and a half at least?
"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."
I know its coming as soon as I hear the piano music and then I go “uh oh…here’s Crosby scoring on a breakaway against poor Josh Harding, and then he’s hammering a nail!”
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Dec 23, 2009 9:11 AM EST up reply actions
Great save!
Welcome…………………..future stars…….
looks straight ahead and talks monotone in Hot Topic clothes like Dion Phanuef
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Dec 23, 2009 8:36 AM EST up reply actions
Bah!!! stupid formatting!
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Dec 23, 2009 8:36 AM EST up reply actions
I want to tell Willie O’Ree that i’m doing well in school and getting good grades.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Dec 23, 2009 8:37 AM EST up reply actions
i’m sure he’d tell you that that’s good.
by DrinkingPartner on Dec 23, 2009 10:08 AM EST up reply actions
Several in that category. The Jack Edwards commentalmost rendered the whole list worthless.
A man gotta have a code
by CP2Devil on Dec 23, 2009 9:11 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
I think Dater gets it mostly right
Dater’s good people. I read him more or less daily over at the Denver Post, and while I don’t agree with all of his analysis, it’s clear that he really and truly loves the game of hockey, and I think there are too many reporters who simply cover it, without the same passion. I totally agree with the following:
- National Anthem: Look, Caps/Ted/whomever, there are two people and two people only who get to sing before Caps games: Bob and Caleb. They energize the crowd. Everyone else sucks the life out of the arena.
- Edwards isn’t so bad. Yeah, he’s a blatant Boston homer, but he’s at least enthusiastic and knowledgeable. I enjoy his enthusiasm, and he and Brickley make a pretty good pair.
- I agree with his “Respect” comment, but I’d exchange punching/fighting with ramming guys’ heads into the boards from behind. The only people who can stop the players from getting injuries is the players themselves. I found it more than a tad ironic that a couple nights after Koci rammed Green’s head into the boards, Boogard did the same thing to Kyle Quincey, and Sacco was jawing at Todd Richards across the bench.
- TimHo’s is open for bizness in NYC.
- The NHL needs more guys like JR, Ovie, etc., but I think none of us want a league where Sean Avery is the norm, rather than the exception.
I disagree wholeheartedly on the Columbus and Minnesota uniforms. I think Columbus’ are, along with the Caps, some of the best of the RBK “uniform system” remakes. Minnesota’s third jerseys are also pretty sweet. Personally, I’ve never minded the Carolina jerseys, but I think they should make the hockey stick/hurricane flag their primary logo.
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Bob and Caleb kill it, but there was some 10 year old kid that killed it recently, and the crowd went pretty crazy for him
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by Sombrero Guy on Dec 23, 2009 9:53 AM EST up reply actions
Bob and Caleb are great because they get the song done quickly and the energy from the player introductions can carry over into the opening faceoff. Plus they seem to be real fans.
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Right. All I ask for from my anthem singer is to not embellish the song by trying to put your own stamp on it, and to sing it relatively quickly. Bob and Caleb both do that. The kid that did it recently had pipes, but was a bit larghissimo for me, IIRC.
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good point. He did milk it a little bit. Anthem singers need to remember people aren’t paying $75 a seat to see them sing.
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by Sombrero Guy on Dec 23, 2009 10:04 AM EST up reply actions
Bob and Caleb are great because they don’t embellish the song (which drives me up a wall.) The Bears also have some good Anthem singers, and it’s a bonus not to have to sit through “RED!” and “OH!”
by IRockTheRed on Dec 23, 2009 10:06 AM EST up reply actions
It’s worth noting that anthem singers are on a time limit, and the home team is fined by the NHL if they do not comply. The time limit is 90 seconds, and I’m pretty sure that at least one singer this year has violated it.
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ayup.
And I’m pretty sure I know which one, too.. shudder
by IRockTheRed on Dec 23, 2009 10:09 AM EST up reply actions
On the upside, the saxophone at the last home game was AWESOME – it was nice to hear the crowd singing, if softly.
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That was cool. :-)
The thing that amazes me is the sheer number of people who don’t know all the words… whether they can sing the thing or not – and the vast majority of Americans truly don’t have the vocal range to do so – is beside the point.
by IRockTheRed on Dec 23, 2009 10:19 AM EST up reply actions
I should also point out that, although I am a semi-trained singer, I do not have the range to handle the Star Spangled Banner without switching octaves or growling in the bottom of my range.
by IRockTheRed on Dec 23, 2009 10:20 AM EST up reply actions
I sang for years and that songs gives me fits. It was not designed with second sopranos in mind.
Fun fact: A popular opinion can still be stupid.
A key change? I sing second soprano / mezzo; as a singer you can choose your key. If you need a sheet transposed I can help.
Unleash the Alex!
Heh.
The tune was originally a bawdy drinking song used as a sobriety test to see if you could keep drinking. If you could sing it through, you could have another drink.
What do you want to bet that whoever decided to set Key’s poem to that tune was drunk at the time? ;-)
But that’s a definite advantage to a’capella singing: you can put it in whatever key you want, and whatever key you can sing it in comfortably. :-)
by IRockTheRed on Dec 23, 2009 10:27 AM EST up reply actions
His son Phillip ended up singing in a different key after Jeff Cartering Daniel Sickles’ wife.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Dec 23, 2009 10:29 AM EST up reply actions
I can sing in groups, its just I can’t do it solo. Or maybe I just lack the confidence.
Fun fact: A popular opinion can still be stupid.
Sing karaoke. You’ll get that confidence. :-) I didn’t like singing by myself for years…
by IRockTheRed on Dec 23, 2009 10:30 AM EST up reply actions
That’s why I always sing the alto harmony line. Which is — you probably guessed — a lot of Fs and Gs.
"Camaraderie, that's what the Washington Capitals are all about."
by CapitalCentre on Dec 23, 2009 11:20 AM EST up reply actions
There’s no truth to this (that there’s a time limit and/or a fine for slow singers).
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That’s not what I was told when auditioning by Caps entertainment. What’s your source?
Unleash the Alex!
The fact that Marvin Gaye wasn’t fined for his 83 all star game anthem?
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Dec 23, 2009 10:24 AM EST up reply actions
Best. Rendition. Evah.
"After the Cold War, the AK-47 became Russia's biggest export. After that came vodka, caviar, and suicidal novelists (and a couple good hockey players)."
by Bald Pollack on Dec 23, 2009 10:26 AM EST up reply actions
Which still isn’t as good as Bleeding Gums Murphy’s, and both aren’t as good as when the Edmonton fans sang it themselves in 06 during the playoffs against Anaheim
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Dec 23, 2009 10:27 AM EST up reply actions
The Canadian anthem that is.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Dec 23, 2009 10:27 AM EST up reply actions
You can’t compare the American anthem to the Canadian one; that’s comparing apples and really good apples.
"After the Cold War, the AK-47 became Russia's biggest export. After that came vodka, caviar, and suicidal novelists (and a couple good hockey players)."
by Bald Pollack on Dec 23, 2009 10:29 AM EST up reply actions
We should just try to start singing the second verse of the song only, and try to fool everyone into think its a brand new anthem
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Dec 23, 2009 10:30 AM EST up reply actions
Interesting. I’ll ask the Caps office in charge of entertainment again; one would think they’d know, and said once before that there was.
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I’m going with the team over the entertainment guy on what an NHL team can be fined for.
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But kudos to the entertainment guy for trying to scare the singers into keeping it short.
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90 seconds is not short.
“O! Canada” is short.
“The Star Spangled Banner” can be interminable if done at dirge tempo and over-embellished…
by IRockTheRed on Dec 23, 2009 10:35 AM EST up reply actions
Okay. I’ll ask them again and if they give me the same answer I’ll let you know. One would think that the entertainment guys would be required by the team to know that.
Unleash the Alex!
Cool. If they give you that answer again, we’ll make sure they’re straightened out by the peeps who know.
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Actually, I’d prefer the illusion, if it ISN’T true. Otherwise, we’ll be treated to some 3-minute dirge-tempo, over-embellished crap instead of The Star Spangled Banner. :-p I don’t care if they’re lying in this instance. It keeps the song at reasonable limits!
by IRockTheRed on Dec 23, 2009 10:51 AM EST up reply actions
If you want a scratch your eyes out version of the anthem, the Baby Pens might take the cake. I’m not sure if he’s still doing the anthem, but the guy they had doing it would hold onto “the land of the freeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee” until the sun came up the next morning. Pens games always started five minutes later than every other game in the AHL.
If you've read this far...seek help.
TimHo’s is open for bizness in NYC.
Are they anywhere other than Penn Station? I was giddy and made it a point to stop there a few weeks ago, but a full fledged Timmy’s is much better.
"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."
Bummer. Some years back, my husband was in Toronto on business, and came home raving about one of the muffins he got at a Timmy’s. But we’ve been to one in the states (upstate NY), and they didn’t have it there (or in NYC). He was sadly disappointed. Maybe they don’t have it in Canada anymore, either, I have no idea.
"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."
On my iPhone the small text made me read it as “please let John Tortorella to be milked every game…”
by Cluster on Dec 23, 2009 12:33 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
Nicklas Backstrom with an attractive young lass. [UNT.se]
For this link above, Firefox or the web page itself translates the page into English and makes for quite the hilarious read.
But Brawndo's got what plants crave. It's got electrolytes.
Yeah, the link is the Google translation of the page (h/t YNC, btw).
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Birger Jarl - hockey game fourth term!

So, hockey players, and especially hockey team has always been good at partying. During a season, it is of course fully focused on the matches and series. But before the series starts, or when it appears slightly shorter residence pinches always someone Lagfest. Always well attended and damn funny.
Is what I get for the headline and picture caption
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Dec 23, 2009 9:06 AM EST up reply actions
Maybe it’s Swedish modern artsy.
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Speaking of which, you could probably paint an entire modern art masterpiece on that girl’s forehead
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Dec 23, 2009 9:12 AM EST up reply actions
She kinda looks a little like Alexis Dziena from “Broken Flowers”
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Dec 23, 2009 9:20 AM EST up reply actions
How so? The assertion that all modern art is crap?
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Yes. Dismissing an entire movement, style, or period of art history irks me a little.
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More of a tribute to Gunnery Sergeant Hartman than anything
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Dec 23, 2009 9:54 AM EST up reply actions
Isn’t it Sparkly’s comment with which you took exception and not YLM’s?
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Yeah, I don’t buy that Sparkly’s was an attempt to quote Gunny, is what I mean.
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Read it how you want; I agree with her in general on this one. There is SOME good modern art… and then there’s the stuff that you see, like the orange draperies through Central Park… I mean, WTF was the point of THAT?
by IRockTheRed on Dec 23, 2009 10:03 AM EST up reply actions
The fun is in trying to figure that out, or giving your own meaning to it, or just pondering the absurdity of it. It’s not for everybody.
My ability to post is only surpassed by my ability to pinch pennies.
We’ll keep it to us enlightened folk. Like Radiohead and Georgetown Cupcake.
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Your Radiohead reference in a Caps Clips over the summer was one of the many things that made this blog a daily read for me. I was hooked from then on.
"So much on my mind I just can't recline. Blastin' holes in the night 'til she bled sunshine."
by Laich It Or Lump It on Dec 23, 2009 1:15 PM EST up reply actions
I’ll admit I did get some interesting photos at 3 AM when I saw the drapes… it was mostly light play, though.
But you’re right; it’s NOT for everyone.
Therefore, I must conclude that modern art is not hockey, because everyone knows that hockey is for everyone!
by IRockTheRed on Dec 23, 2009 10:11 AM EST up reply actions
You just flip-turned me upside down.

by DrinkingPartner on Dec 23, 2009 10:15 AM EST up reply actions
Like J.P., I fail to see how that differs from any other type of art.
by David M. Getz on Dec 23, 2009 10:05 AM EST up reply actions
It was gorgeous. Which, sometimes, is the point.
Chacun à son goût.
"Camaraderie, that's what the Washington Capitals are all about."
by CapitalCentre on Dec 23, 2009 10:21 AM EST up reply actions
you have a point, but when you go to the Tate Modern in London, and see a Glass of water on a shelf called “Oak Tree” or a Urinal in a glass case as “art” it really feels like you’re getting into Emperors New Clothes territory.
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by Sombrero Guy on Dec 23, 2009 9:54 AM EST up reply actions
You don’t even have to go to London. The National Gallery of Art has some prime examples… like that masterpiece that was eight fluorescent tubes lit up on a piece of plywood. It was two 4’ tubes on the bottom, and two 2’ tubes on the top, surrounding two 4’ tubes on the top and two 4’ tubes on the bottom. Fascinating. Absolutely.
It’d make a great reading lamp, if fluorescent lighting didn’t give me a headache. :-p
I do like Dali, and some of the others, but most I’ve seen, a five-year-old could do better.
The problem with modern art is that its perception has been diminished by people who saw something they thought they understood, or simply didn’t, and copied it. The flourescent lights in plywood is an example of both sides of the argument. It’s interesting because I’m sure there could be a fascinating, detailed explanation as to what it’s supposed to be/mean, but, on the other hand, it doesn’t look particularly interesting; it’s something any of us could do, given the materials.
A lot of modern art isn’t particularly impressive. In fact, I would almost compare mondern art to the comedy of Andy Kaufman: it’s for the artists/comedians only, it’s not really intended to please anybody else. And that’s where the faultline lies, to me.
That said, I’m mostly a renaissance guy. Dali is also a favorite.
by DrinkingPartner on Dec 23, 2009 10:24 AM EST up reply actions
You mean art can be personal? huh!
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Not can, but modern art seems to be exclusively personal, which is why it alienates so many viewers.
by DrinkingPartner on Dec 23, 2009 10:29 AM EST up reply actions
Yes, it’s expression for the sake of expression, not for the sake of displaying technical skill or making money (most of the time) or gaining notoriety.
My ability to post is only surpassed by my ability to pinch pennies.
But expression for expression’s sake is generally meaningless in public forums. And the fact that these pieces do gain notoriety and make money, and still are misunderstood, is what gets a lot of people.
by DrinkingPartner on Dec 23, 2009 10:32 AM EST up reply actions
Lots of people lack empathy, I guess.
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I would agree with that statement, as a whole, actually.
by DrinkingPartner on Dec 23, 2009 10:37 AM EST up reply actions
There you go with the blanket style statements you’ve been complaining about. See, if you’re gonna make a blanket statement about “people lack empathy,” then others should be able to make a blanket statement about modern art without getting their sh** jumped.
by IRockTheRed on Dec 23, 2009 10:37 AM EST up reply actions
“Lots of people” isn’t the same as implying all modern art is mediocre.
by David M. Getz on Dec 23, 2009 10:38 AM EST up reply actions
See, it depends on your definition of what is, and is not, art there.
I don’t believe ALL modern art is mediocre; I do believe some of it is utter crap.
by IRockTheRed on Dec 23, 2009 10:39 AM EST up reply actions
See, it depends on your definition of what is, and is not, art there.
Why?
by David M. Getz on Dec 23, 2009 10:40 AM EST up reply actions
All a matter of opinion. I’m done with this.
by IRockTheRed on Dec 23, 2009 10:44 AM EST up reply actions
And that’s the stickiness of any argument involving art.
by DrinkingPartner on Dec 23, 2009 10:45 AM EST up reply actions
I would prefer calling you Rick Mahorn, if that’s o.k.
by mechanicsville on Dec 23, 2009 3:39 PM EST up reply actions
All a matter of opinion. I’m done with this.
It’s not a matter of opinion, it’s a matter of semantics. Qualifying something and making a blanket statement (getting back to the original comment that start the whole discussion) are different things.
by David M. Getz on Dec 23, 2009 10:47 AM EST up reply actions
Totally different, and his “blanket statement” wasn’t “Everyone lacks empathy,” it was hedged by “lots of” and “I guess.”
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by D'ohboy on Dec 23, 2009 10:42 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
DP – here you are getting at the essence of this debate over the “meaning” of art. It doesnt have to “mean” anything. In fact, for influential painters like Pollock, the big decision in painting was just to paint. It was the act of painting that was liberating, particularly in a society that was challenging the traditional norms of the art world. Picasso and Monet, whose prints now decorate most upscale hotel bathrooms and are generally considered as standard bearers for what is “real” art, were considered very radical in their time.
by S h a g g y on Dec 23, 2009 10:59 AM EST up reply actions
DP – here you are getting at the essence of this debate over the “meaning” of art. It doesnt have to “mean” anything. In fact, for influential painters like Pollock, the big decision in painting was just to paint. It was the act of painting that was liberating, particularly in a society that was challenging the traditional norms of the art world. Picasso and Monet, the most famous artists ever and whose prints now decorate most upscale hotel bathrooms and are generally considered as standard bearers for what is “real” art, were considered very radical in their time, with more than few WTF moments.
by S h a g g y on Dec 23, 2009 11:00 AM EST up reply actions
But that’s just not true. For general consumption, which, to the utter bewilderment of the artist, is unfortunately the name of the game, modern art is not accessible enough to the masses to be truly appreciated. For it to be “good,” it does have to “mean” something in some fashion to those who see it, not only to those who make it.
I do appreciate modern art. I can appreciate it. But I totally understand why it has the reputation it does. It’s completely self-absorbed and ridiculously arrogant, and usually incomprehensible. That’s why you get blanket statements about its worth.
by DrinkingPartner on Dec 23, 2009 11:15 AM EST up reply actions
The Dali museum in Paris is amazing, they have a set of illustrations he did that were for an edition of through the looking glass
As is the Dali museum in Florida…St. Pete. Simply an amazing artist. If you’re a fan of Dali, check out www.andrewgilmanart.com. IMO, a pretty solid (and somewhat twisted) local artist.
Right. And you could pick and choose crap from the Renaissance, too, except it’s rarely seen because it’s, well, crap. And current modern art that’s crap will be forgotten as well.
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by J.P. on Dec 23, 2009 10:00 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Exactly, but while it’s current, we still have to look at it when we go to the modern art museums – which, typically, I avoid like the plague.
by IRockTheRed on Dec 23, 2009 10:00 AM EST up reply actions
Purely out of curiosity, what do you define as “good/worthwhile” art?
(Again, not a snarky comment, genuinely curious.)
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I can dig curious. :-)
My line between “art” and “not art” is about in the same place as Sombrero Guy’s. “Art” requires a modicum of talent to produce. Eight fluorescent tubes mounted on plywood is not art. Some modern art really is art, and that I have no objection to, even if it isn’t always to my taste (see: my brother’s red fried eggs painting).
by IRockTheRed on Dec 23, 2009 10:17 AM EST up reply actions
There’s talent in composition and then there’s technical skill. The former is more important when it comes to creating any kind of art.
I don’t know a ton about visual art, but look at music. A lot of great songwriters are not technical geniuses, but it doesn’t matter. If you’re a great songwriter without a ton of technical skill you can be Paul McCartney or Bob Dylan; if you have a ton of technical skill but no composition skill, you’re that douchebag trying to impress everyone at Guitar Center on a Saturday afternoon.
The same goes for visual art. You can look at some stuff and say “I could do that” and get right in the sense that you posses the technical skill to create it, but not in the sense that you could have imagined it up and made it mean something.
by David M. Getz on Dec 23, 2009 10:26 AM EST up reply actions
I agree that the creativity is what counts, but, in the end, a statue of plywood and flourescent tubes isn’t likely going to stir anything unless it’s arranged in such a way that it’s recognizably impressive.
by DrinkingPartner on Dec 23, 2009 10:29 AM EST up reply actions
If you look at art and all you say is “I could do that,” you aren’t getting the idea of art.
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by jordanDC on Dec 23, 2009 10:29 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
(And you’re probably wrong)
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by J.P. on Dec 23, 2009 10:31 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
I would agree but you need some level of technical skill to pull it off performance wise unless you split the duties like happens in a lot of pop and country music where songwriters write the tunes and the performers play them. I would consider both sets of people artists.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder when it comes to any form of art – paitings, sculpture, TV, movies, music, etc.
Acts like ABBA and Miley Cyrus have made millions of dollars performing. Jackson Pollack and is world renown as is Picasso. It’s art. All art I don’t like I might add and I’ll be the first to say I can’t stand it. But I won’t ever argue its not art.
A man gotta have a code
Would you agree that art is something that, essentially, you can’t do?
For example, I can’t carve for shit, therefore, marble sculpture is fantastic art. I can’t draw for shit, so charcoal drawings are amazing. I can paint with oils, but i can’t produce anything near to what Da Vinci could.
Is that what you mean?
by DrinkingPartner on Dec 23, 2009 10:26 AM EST up reply actions
Dangit. I can’t remember the names of any of Homer’s “art” projects.
"Ah, dinner. The perfect break between work and drunk." - Homer Simpson
My favorite moment was him running at it with the umbrella, joust-style.
by DrinkingPartner on Dec 23, 2009 10:50 AM EST up reply actions
see I actually like a lot of what I see in the museums, and most of the stuff I have framed in my house falls under the Modern Art category (along with some Edward Hopper) but the two examples I mentioned above are the ones that stick out in my mind because of the sheer absurdity (in my mind) of wasting museum space on them.
I feel like there should be some combination of talent and expression. Simply taking an every day item and naming it something different is a form of expression, but requires zero talent.
Ah well, to each their own.
Because now I can justify browsing and commenting during the work day with the argument that I am promoting my business.
by Sombrero Guy on Dec 23, 2009 10:13 AM EST up reply actions
Every form of art has its own value.
Except Tromp L’oeil, of course. That stuff uniformly sucks. Take a freaking photo fer cryin’ out loud!
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Dec 23, 2009 10:14 AM EST up reply actions
Done correctly, you’d think that Jizz was actually staring down at you from a hole in the ceiling :-).
by DrinkingPartner on Dec 23, 2009 10:31 AM EST up reply actions
I’m with you, ns – she’s lovely.
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Photography shutter fail on that shot. Did they use a flash?
When did Fleischmann take up photography?
If you've read this far...seek help.
by ThePeerless on Dec 23, 2009 1:33 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Kari Underberg
My ability to post is only surpassed by my ability to pinch pennies.
by jordanDC on Dec 23, 2009 9:14 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I was borrrrrrnnn to rub you…I was bornnnnn to lick your face…
I was borrnnnnn…to rub you
But you were born to rub me first.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Dec 23, 2009 9:18 AM EST up reply actions
“Caddyshack” and “Airplane!” quotes already… this blog’s showing its age…
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Knowing is half the battle after all

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by CP2Devil on Dec 23, 2009 9:29 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Rec’ed because Underoos were plain awesome. They were good for hours of fun when I was a small rugrat.
Unleash the Alex!
I like how they implicitly start with the premise that underwear is inherently not fun to wear (though given the target end-user here, it’s more than a little creepy).
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So your answer to “boxers or briefs” is neither? ;)
“Don’t you see what’s happening here Elaine? No boxers? No briefs? No boxer briefs? Thats right….all that’s separating us from…him…..is a thin layer of gabardine…”
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Dec 23, 2009 9:33 AM EST up reply actions
"I'm Larry David..

..and I happen to like wearing women’s panties."
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by jordanDC on Dec 23, 2009 9:36 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
So if OFB is coming around on Schultz, does that mean the war’s won?
"After the Cold War, the AK-47 became Russia's biggest export. After that came vodka, caviar, and suicidal novelists (and a couple good hockey players)."
I don’t think so. I think they have him listed for spot duty as #6 defenseman, and just possibly #4 if there are injuries and nobody to call up from Hershey. I really think the only thing they like is the price tag, and they just really can’t get their minds around the +15, but felt like they had to give him a little positive press for it. Kind of like the Ovie is the most exciting player thing.
by HateOffSeason on Dec 23, 2009 8:59 AM EST up reply actions
Having a serious discussion about what OFB thinks about something is like having a serious discussion about cow farts.
Wait… so we can get Government funding for this conversation?!
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Who would qualify as their peers?
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Ah yes, the Miracle on 34th Street.
Somehow I think it’ll be a long time before that game gets forgotten (and I knew someone was going to bring it up). Hey birthday boy, wanna pot another one (or two, or three) for your birthday this year (preferably sooner than overtime)?
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Highlight #2 ….Giroux and Nylander on a two person breakaway? What the hell was the Rangers defense doing, calling out for pizza?
by HateOffSeason on Dec 23, 2009 8:31 AM EST up reply actions
They were probably too busy doubling over laughing
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Dec 23, 2009 8:33 AM EST up reply actions
They knew… “why bother? it’s not like they’d actually, well, score…”
If you've read this far...seek help.
Its like the eternal debate between the turd sandwich and the giant douche
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Dec 23, 2009 8:38 AM EST up reply actions
He saw the net ahead and knew he would be able to circle around.
by HateOffSeason on Dec 23, 2009 9:08 AM EST up reply actions
OFB: “Too many Caps’ fans I think focus on what Schultz is not: a banger, a deft skater, a points producer.”
Yes, and by “too many Caps’ [sic] fans,” they mean themselves. You could get whiplash from reading that blog. They do still crush on that female goalie right?
I liked Manon Rheaume better
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Dec 23, 2009 8:07 AM EST up reply actions
pucksandboots' trip to imaginationland
awesomely false and alternate history (without any source), courtesy of OFB:
Moreover, were it not for Boudreau’s decision to retain eight defensemen coming out of camp, Sarge may have been marketed, but as injuries have ravaged that unit, Sarge has stepped up and logged important minutes, and Boudreau is confident enough in him of late to have him partnered with Mike Green. Sarge’s +15 is good for 5th best in the NHL.
by Natty Bumppo on Dec 23, 2009 8:07 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
That’s ironic, because as much as they shit on him, why would they think there’s a “market” for him? Besides that, if there’s a “market” for him, he’s not shitty.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Dec 23, 2009 8:12 AM EST up reply actions
Yes, and: ’Going forward, Schultz is likely to play an important role as a value-for-minutes guy: likely a no. 6 rearguard on a Cup-contending Caps’ club able to be slotted in to a 4 role if injuries set in."
Right, because 52’s defense partner is the No. 6 D. Of course.
One could argue, if one were so inclined, that at +13 while playing the 3rd-most minutes-per-game on the blueline, he played “an important role as a value-for minutes guy” last year.
Or that by leading the team’s D in plus-minus while playing the 4th-most minutes, he played “an important role as a value-for minutes guy” two seasons ago.
Or that by leading the team’s D in plus-minus (tied) as a rookie, he played “an important role as a value-for minutes guy” three seasons ago.
If one were so inclined to make such arguments, that is.
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I think his biggest mistake was that he wasn’t Miss Virginia
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Dec 23, 2009 8:25 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
I’m glad I’m not the only one who finds their obsession with her to be pretty creepy.
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by Laich It Or Lump It on Dec 23, 2009 1:16 PM EST up reply actions
Well, I’ll just come right out and say it…
I don’t find her particularly attractive either.
That’s a lot of the reason why I quickly got tired of the Caps over-promoting her as well.
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by Caps Nut on Dec 23, 2009 2:09 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
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by Scott in Shaw on Dec 23, 2009 2:58 PM EST up reply actions
I'm not usually critical of OFB
but I don’t understand how they can justify saying things like this. Underselling Jeff Schultz as a no. 6 D is like saying that the Jose Theodore’s career has been “a tad inconsistent.”
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I think you’ll find that some do, some don’t. Kinda like people’s thoughts on Modern Art.
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by J.P. on Dec 23, 2009 10:22 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I put the site in my block list so I can’t get myself into trouble posting there.
My ability to post is only surpassed by my ability to pinch pennies.
Heh. I don’t mind OFB – I don’t agree with him a lot of times but I find him a refreshing perspective.
Unleash the Alex!
It’s too self-congratulating and SERIOUS BUSINESS for me.
My ability to post is only surpassed by my ability to pinch pennies.
Self-congratulating is something I see on lots and lots of blogs. He’s hardly unique. I’ve learned to ignore it and separate the wheat from the chaff, so I guess it doesn’t bother me. Ah well, to each his own in all things.
Unleash the Alex!
He’s a bad writer(s), but he consistently posts content, so I’ll wander over when I’m bored. I’ll never comment, again, though.
by DrinkingPartner on Dec 23, 2009 10:38 AM EST up reply actions
Did you get censored or threatened like me?
My ability to post is only surpassed by my ability to pinch pennies.
No, my comment was simply ignored, even though I raised a specific and direct question (perhaps a contradiction – i can’t even remember now) to something written.
But I wouldn’t put censorship past them. Threatened, how?
by DrinkingPartner on Dec 23, 2009 10:43 AM EST up reply actions
They bitched that I was using a junkmail email address to post comments and maybe I should use my work address (named my company) instead if I want to make negative comments. OoOoOooo I can use webmaster tools to find out where hits come from too.
My ability to post is only surpassed by my ability to pinch pennies.
Er? Most people do use junkmail addresses to post on forums. It’s a safety issue and a spam issue. Spam in your work email is not acceptable, and blogs like that do get harvested.
Unleash the Alex!
Eh, that’s nothing. They flat out banned me from even reading their blog.
Sounds like they actually did me a favor though…
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Please load brain before shooting off mouth.™
Blocked his IP address? But even that seems pretty extreme.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Dec 23, 2009 2:44 PM EST up reply actions
Yep, that’s what the did.
And they tried to pass it off as me being the only reader that they had a problem with but I’ve seen other people mention that they too were banned from reading the thing.
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Please load brain before shooting off mouth.™
How would you get in trouble? They’ll just edit or delete your comments they don’t like.
In an ideal world all ten fingers would be on my left hand so my right hand could just be a fist for punching.
by Fehr and Balanced on Dec 23, 2009 4:50 PM EST up reply actions
I was really enjoying the snow until I got close to my house because that is when you realize that D.C. does not have the plowing capabilities that they have in Canada or in New England where I have also lived. Our whole street was filled with snow and I ended up getting stuck because I tried to plow through it with the car (I hope Mercedes does not mind!). I got stuck on an incline and then it took 90 minutes to dig out.
I’m seeing a new version of the “No problem, coach!” commercial…
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I’ve asked this question before, but what the heck is up with Gabby’s eyes in all of those ASC commercials. He kind of looks like his head is about to explode.
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“….you had me at no ploughing, you had me at no ploughing……”
by Pi on Dec 23, 2009 9:22 AM EST up reply actions
I want to know more about Bruce’s imaginary world, though. I have friends in Toronto, and it snows there more like the mid-Atlantic. Lake effect snow is south in Buffalo, etc. and not in Toronto. Which doesn’t mean they don’t actually know what to do with it there, just a comment. I guess he just means Canada in general, not where he grew up.
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Bruce's next gig?

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by J.P. on Dec 23, 2009 9:25 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
OH NO. You did it. Song in head. Call Mr. Plow, that’s my name, my name again is Mr. Plow…
I could have been equipment manager, but nooooo!
I’d rather go with Plow King…at least he had Lurleen Lumpkin to sing for his commercials
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Dec 23, 2009 9:34 AM EST up reply actions
Señor Plow no es macho, es solamente un borracho…
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by D'ohboy on Dec 23, 2009 9:41 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Understanding Hockey through Sports Metaphors
I brought this topic up in my discussion with F&B, Killer Carlson, Zephyr et al. in last Wednesday’s Caps Clips. Hockey fans, even very savvy and intelligent ones, tend to understand hockey metaphorically through other sports. I pointed out that many people compare the position of goaltender to that of the quarterback in football, or the pitcher in baseball. As if to prove my point, a very savvy and intelligent hockey fan, one of the guys who writes “Defending Big D,” wrote this:
The goaltending position is a lot like the quarterback position in football: Franchises flounder for years without one you can call a “franchise guy.”
I understand what he’s getting at, namely that goaltenders are the keystone of a franchise, and without a good one, the rest of the edifice falls apart. The problem is, by comparing goaltenders to quarterbacks, he’s actually vastly underselling the importance of goaltenders. Quarterbacks and pitchers play approximately half of the game or less. Goalies typically play all 60 minutes. Quarterbacks and pitchers have essentially zero effect on the rest of the game when they’re not participating (yes, National League fans, I know your pitchers occasionally go up to bat, but c’mon…).
Given the flowing style of play in hockey, the relative quality of the goaltender is constantly affecting his teammates. Good goaltenders allow the players in front of them to play more aggressively, because they’re confident in the knowledge that a mistake won’t end up in the back of the net. Great goaltenders, such as Brodeur, actually become offensive weapons with their ability to handle the puck and start the rush. To put this in football terms, a sequence wherein Brodeur corrals a dump-in and hits one of his players with a long outlet pass is the equivalent of Tom Brady returning a punt on special teams, then staying out on offense and throwing a 30-yard completion.
I understand how these metaphors creep in, and we’re all (myself included) guilty to some degree, particularly when trying to explain the game to newcomers. In this particular case, however, the metaphor doesn’t add to our understanding of the situation, it detracts from it significantly by understating just how crucial goaltending is in hockey.
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by D'ohboy on Dec 23, 2009 9:11 AM EST reply actions 2 recs
Interesting argument and I see what you’re getting at. However, I think pitchers are just as if not more important than goalies for the sole reason that they can single-handedly prevent the other team from scoring if they’re on. No matter how good a goalie is, a goalie can be beaten on a three-on-none odd man rush, or with a fluky deflection.
But if Josh Beckett or Pedro Martinez goes onto the mound and has no hit stuff, there’s no chance the other team scores.
Think about this for a sec:
I think pitchers are just as if not more important than goalies for the sole reason that they can single-handedly prevent the other team from scoring if they’re on.
Now consider the number of “complete game shutouts” there are in a year in baseball, versus the number of shutouts there are in hockey (where they’re almost inherently “complete game”). Yes, defense is important in hockey, but as people are increasingly beginning to understand, defense (meaning the guys in the field, not just the pitcher) is just as important in baseball.
I’ll give you an example: 1996 Stanley Cup Finals between the Avs and the Panthers. The Avs had a ludicrously good team that year, the Panthers had. . . John Vanbiesbrouck. The game went into triple overtime, and Vanbiesbrouck made 55 saves before letting in the game-winner.
Had this been an extra-innings game in baseball, the manager would have pulled Beezer after he had thrown 100-120 pitches, even if the game went to 15 innings. Pitchers are inherently limited in a way that goalies aren’t.
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And just to pile on a bit, had Beezer been a pitcher, rather than a goalie, he wouldn’t even have been playing, because he would only be able to play every 5 games, maybe every 4 in the playoffs. :)
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My favorite story from that series is when Patrick Roy was so upset from being pelted with rats he went back to the dressing room and said “No more rats”, and proceeded not to give up any more goals the rest of the series.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Dec 23, 2009 10:07 AM EST up reply actions
Loved that Beezer run. Watching him defeat the Flyers was amazing. Guy never got his due. Fuck Mike Richter.
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by Fehr and Balanced on Dec 23, 2009 4:55 PM EST up reply actions
but as people are increasingly beginning to understand, defense (meaning the guys in the field, not just the pitcher) is just as important in baseball.
This is where I disagree. Defense is important in baseball, but not as important as hockey.
Well, then you haven’t been paying much attention to the last 5 years of baseball analysis and the development of stats such as UZR, RZR, Fielding +/-, etc. Still, I realize that’s a little esoteric, so I’ll give you an example.
Jarrod Washburn 2009:
- As a Seattle Mariner: 2.64 ERA
- As a Detroit Tiger: 7.33 ERA
Same guy, same year, different teams. What’s the difference? The Mariners had perhaps the best defense in all of baseball last year, whereas the Tigers didn’t. I could go on…
For the most part, pitchers have control over two things: the number of strikeouts they throw, and their groundball/flyball ratio. Everything else depends on defense and luck.
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Also his K:BB ratio in Seattle was 2.4 and in Detroit it was 1.3.
by David M. Getz on Dec 23, 2009 10:17 AM EST up reply actions
Stats like UZR and fielding +/- have questionable value in the first place, but we’ll just leave that aside for a second.
I’m sorry if I don’t believe Washburn’s 5.00 ERA jump is more due to the fact that he’s a vastly overrated pitcher who maybe hit a hot streak with the Marines than the fact that Seattle’s defense is good. Josh Beckett and Jon Lester put up fine numbers for the Red Sox last year with one of the shoddier defenses in the league.
My point in, team defense can carry you much further in hockey than it can carry you in baseball. It can make your goalie look better. If defense could win you championships in baseball, or even get you to the ALCS, the Minnesota Twins would be a threat to win the WS every year.
Don’t forget about BABIP (batting average on balls in play) that is also a judge of how “lucky” a hitter is.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Dec 23, 2009 10:23 AM EST up reply actions
To further the point, team defense can carry a Minnesota Wild to the conference finals every now and then. Who did they have in goal that year? Dwayne Roloson and Manny Fernandez?
Obviously pitching and goaltending are crucial pieces of any winner in either sport, but I think the importance of the two are pretty even.
Dwayne Roloson is a much better goaltender than people give him credit for. People remember the Oilers’ trip to the SCF and think of Pronger, forgetting that Roloson basically carried that team in net.
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Roloson’s been an absolute beast for the Islanders this season, too. Mad respect.
Fun fact: A popular opinion can still be stupid.
He’s been solid, but he has definitely not been an “absolute beast”. Biron wouldn’t be getting so many starts if Roloson was standing on his head regularly.
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by Killer_Carlson on Dec 23, 2009 4:26 PM EST up reply actions
Overrated is irrelevant. (And I agree, by the way, he’s mediocre.) The point is, pitching in front of a good defense made him appear to be a better pitcher than he really was. Yes, there are flaws in each of the defensive metrics individually, but when they all say the same thing, like “Jeter sucks,” or “Zimmerman’s amazingly good” then they’re worth listening to. All of the metrics agreed that Seattle’s D was outstanding last year, while Detroit’s wasn’t.
Also, just like in hockey, wherein a good goalie can put up stats on a defensively shoddy team, certain pitchers (usually high-K guys), will put up better stats, even on defensively poor teams… which is why high-K pitchers tend to be very, very expensive.
Regarding your Minnesota comment, have you ever thought that perhaps their team defense is why a team with a minuscule payroll, generally mediocre pitching, that was missing one of their two best hitters for the second half of the season, made it into the playoffs? Or that’s part of why they compete, year after year after year with the same minuscule payroll?
Still, you haven’t addressed the fact that starting goalies play in over 60% of their teams’ games, and play the entire game, whereas even the best pitchers only play in about 20% of their teams’ games, and only play about 80% of the game.
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anyone trying to argue that the Detroit Tigers had an even remotely competent D last year is blind, a homer, or both. Christ, they were awful, Brandon Inge’s willingness to throw himself at anythign coming remotely his way excepted.
Fun fact: A popular opinion can still be stupid.
It must be a tough existence to be a Tigers fan. Seems like one disappointment after another, between the 2008 linuep not doing a god damn thing and Jeremy Bonderman disappearing from the face of the planet.
2007 was such an aberration, though. I mean, I was thrilled for the Tigers, thrilled for their fans, but they fell back to earth HARD. I’ll root for them because I married a fan and know the Leyland family, but this upcoming season is going to suck. It’s going to suck even more if Zumaya isn’t back, because that’s like the one bright spot (ok, exaggerating a little, but not much).
Bonderman had some weird, rare condition, I can’t remember exactly what it was/is. Major suckage for him. Not a damn thing he can do about it
Fun fact: A popular opinion can still be stupid.
You guys got Scherzer in the Granderson deal, right? That’s a solid move.
But yeah, it seems like they’re now selling off any assets that actually cost money. That never bodes well for remaining competitive.
not sure who they got, I pay more attention to the Nats. I follow the Tigers, but not particularly closely.
The Illitch family said they were running the Tigers in 2009 as a public trust: they were sticking the best team out on the field in an attempt to win because the city of Detroit needed them to win. But the Illitchs can’t keep that up (particularly if the Tigers are going to lose game 163 to the Twins), and so they’ve been forced by the economic reality to dismantle the team for 2010. They have a huge amount tied up in a few very large contracts. The team is absolutely handcuffed, and they know that the upcoming season is going to be rough.
Fun fact: A popular opinion can still be stupid.
Yeah, I feel bad for ‘em. I’m a Yankees fan, and I’m really tired of the lack of parity in the league with regards to salaries and team budgets. It’s only gonna get worse without a salary cap. It’s annoying watching BOS/ANA/NYY/LAD buying talent from the other franchises.
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Philly has been pretty good about buying up talent, too. I’m quite pissed that the Nationals are opening against the Phillies yet again. Although the prospect of watching Halladay and Marquis duel has convinced me that skipping work on April 5 is completely worthwhile.
Fun fact: A popular opinion can still be stupid.
I will give you that because a goalie plays 70-80% of games that an individual goalie is more valuable than one pitcher. I suppose when people throw out the pitcher vs. goalie comparison it’s only meant to span over a single game.
We could go on about this, but in the end I think baseball and hockey are too different to really take it much further.
Yeah, my original point wasn’t to get into a lengthy discussion about FIP, UZR or BABIP, but more to say that we shouldn’t use other sports to understand hockey without grasping just how fundamentally different hockey is from other sports. I still think the general point holds, goalies are unbelievably important in a way that quarterbacks and pitchers aren’t.
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No matter how good a goalie is, a goalie can be beaten on a three-on-none odd man rush, or with a fluky deflection.
And no matter how good a pitcher is, his team can allow runs by making errors.
by David M. Getz on Dec 23, 2009 10:00 AM EST up reply actions
Not if he strikes out all 27 batters on 81 pitches (and his batterymate doesn’t drop any third strikes)!
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The catcher can and will likely drop the ball in that scenario :-).
by DrinkingPartner on Dec 23, 2009 10:46 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah, Varitek is a saint to have to put up with that shit.
by DrinkingPartner on Dec 23, 2009 10:49 AM EST up reply actions
Was he catching Wakefield last year? In years past, they’ve always had somebody else do it, usually with a first baseman’s glove. . .
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It was Doug Mirabelli forever. I remember they got rid of him and Josh Bard was so bad, they traded him to San Diego to get Mirabelli back
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Dec 23, 2009 10:50 AM EST up reply actions
Thanks. I was blanking on his name. My brain kept saying “Rocco Baldelli” but I knew that to be absurdly incorrect.
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Drinking Partner was right. I forgot Wakefield is like Randy Johnson, needs his own valet.
A man gotta have a code
Can’t determine whether that was snark or not – i was agreeing with you :-).
by DrinkingPartner on Dec 23, 2009 11:16 AM EST up reply actions
I grew up loving football, baseball, basketball, basically, all sports. Then – I FOUND HOCKEY. Thank god. My fanatical obsessions with the Redskins, and to a lesser degree, the Wiz, The Senators, er Nationals ( I was a but a wee babe when we lost the Senators to Texas), have waned until I really only follow hockey. It’s more …pure, unadulerated, than the slimy morass of the NFL, NBA and MLB.
So to use other sports to understand hockey degrades my favorite sport. Just sayin.
by S h a g g y on Dec 23, 2009 10:24 AM EST up reply actions
I was an obsessed Orioles fan until I started watching the Caps around 1989-1990 and began playing in a youth hockey league shortly thereafter. I was a decent baseball player but lost complete interest in the game. Baseball practice was excruciatingly boring compared to hockey practice.
Because now I can justify browsing and commenting during the work day with the argument that I am promoting my business.
by Sombrero Guy on Dec 23, 2009 10:37 AM EST up reply actions
Great take, D’ohboy. I completely agree and I’m glad you stated it so well.
In an ideal world all ten fingers would be on my left hand so my right hand could just be a fist for punching.
by Fehr and Balanced on Dec 23, 2009 4:54 PM EST up reply actions
Well…I can understand if he’s a little irritable…he’s been shouldering the load there in Edmonton for a long time
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Dec 23, 2009 9:20 AM EST up reply actions
Hey, I think we can all agree that this is a better way to vent frustration than how Souray may have handled it in the past.
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I do it — and guys have done it for me," Souray said this week. "As a matter of fact it happened at the end of (Saturday’s Washington) game, against Ovechkin. I was going to hit him and said, ‘Head’s up!’ You know. ‘It’s comin’!’"
He’s right on this. I bet David Booth would have appreciated Mike Richard’s giving him a little warning.
The idea that the Caps are getting healthier caught my eye. 13 of the last 17 on the road, back to back weekend games 2 straight weeks, and the Caps are getting healthier? Really? I would expect callups from South Carolina to start any minute, not sending players back to Hershey.
Then I though, what could be contributing to a healthier team, and the first thought was better ice. Injuries can happen on any ice conditions when you get your bell rung against the boards, or someone cracks a rib laying a huge check on you, but how many injuries, and not just groins strains, are a factor of bad ice? Lets look at the last 17 games:
Nov 14 @ NJ Same arena as the Nets? But still probably better ice than home.
Nov 17 @ Rangers Same quality ice as home.
Nov 20 vs. Canadians home ice.
Nov 21 @ Toronto Same arena as Raptors but better ice.
Nov 23 @ Ottawa better ice.
Nov 25 vs Buffalo home ice.
Nov 28 @ Montreal Not as good of ice as I would expect, but still better than home.
Nov 30 @ Carolina No basketball team on the arena, but still southern ice like home.
Dec. 3 vs Florida home ice.
Dec 5 @ Flyers Comparable to home ice.
Dec 7 @ Tampa Comparable to home ice.
Dec 9 @ Buffalo Better ice.
Dec 11 vs. Caroline home ice.
Dec 12 @ Toronto Better than home ice.
Dec 15 @ Colorado Better than home ice.
Dec 18 @ Vancouver Better than home ice.
Dec 19 @ Edmonton Best damned ice sheet there is.
So, by my count, that is 9 games in 17 on better ice sheets than at home. And, over a 10 day stretch, from Dec 9-19th, only one game not a a pretty good rink. So, even though travel and exhaustion are usually candidates to cause more injuries, perhaps this road trip was exactly what the Capitals needed to get healthy again. 5 games out of 6 on good ice to prevent new injuries while our other guys healed up.
by HateOffSeason on Dec 23, 2009 9:26 AM EST reply actions 2 recs
Ayup, that earns a rec. Good stuff.
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Dec 23, 2009 9:33 AM EST up reply actions
I don’t expect that will happen this year… maybe 1Q2010, more likely longer than that…
by IRockTheRed on Dec 23, 2009 10:36 AM EST up reply actions
I hear its headed on a trip to Ford’s Theatre Holdings.
Doesn’t sound like a very good idea to me.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Dec 23, 2009 10:37 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
What are the ice related injuries the Caps have had? I don’t feel like they have had a lot of groin issues this season.
Last season Poti and Clark implied or directly stated that the ice hurt them or could hurt someone.
My ability to post is only surpassed by my ability to pinch pennies.
I know that there were lots of issues last year, and I’m not saying it isn’t a problem. But this year the rash of injuries seems remarkably unrelated to the ice sheet. Most of the injuries I can think of have been upper body or non-ice related leg issues.
Right, I mentioned that there didn’t seem to be many groin injuries. But how many other injuries are caused by bad ice, if indirectly. Not being able to turn as well, as fast, etc…
by HateOffSeason on Dec 23, 2009 1:03 PM EST up reply actions
Nov 30 @ Carolina No basketball team on the arena, but still southern ice like home.
Well, most ACC Fans wouldn’t count the N.C. State Wolfpack as a basketball team either, but they do play there….
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Woops! I thought Gtown was the only college that screwed up scheduling at a professional arena. My bad.
by HateOffSeason on Dec 23, 2009 9:30 AM EST up reply actions
Eh, no harm.
But does everybody realize that the Whats are playing at the Phone Booth today in a Noon Tip-off against arch-rival Harvard?
So the question is how many MB’s will the On Frozen Bozos waste complaining about bad ice…
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It’s a legitimate issue (having a hoops game same day) that a strong players union would make sure didn’t happen.
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Well, there’s only three times this year where the Phone Booth is being used for a BBall game in the afternoon and hockey game in the evening.
I understand being the home base for three teams makes scheduling difficult and personally, I would perfer mid-day hockey matches on the days when the building is double-booked but I’m not in charge. That’s just life in the big city as they say. Both teams have to play on the same sheet of crummy ice so it isn’t as if there’s a big disadvantage. If anything, we should be used to it by now and can use it to our advantage.
And as I noted, this if the first of the three Basketball-Hockey Doubheaders. The next is 1/23 against Phoenix (Whats/Rutgers) and then 3/6 against the Rangers (Whats/Cincy). I’m not sure what, if anything a Players Union could do about it. Most of these buildings have to be double-booked on the weekends to make money.
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Both teams have to play on the same sheet of crummy ice so it isn’t as if there’s a big disadvantage.
I disagree on this in principle. Crappy ice levels the playing field and takes away the advantages of having a fast, skilled team. Ask the Flyers about it.
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So the Flyers have zero speed or skill?
I’m not saying it has no effect, but the idea that it hurts one team more than another just doesn’t wash with me. Because these “unskilled” and “slower” teams would still have to deal with ruts, blown edges, and bad bounces.
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Not saying that. But Danny Briere specifically said of their playoff series here two seasons ago:
“Another thing that favored us was the condition of the ice,” he said. “It was so bad that it was tough for guys like Semin, Backstrom and Ovechkin to get anything going, the ice was so bad. That was another thing that went our way.”
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Yeah I remember that and I also remember Tom Poti whining about it too. What are the odds that scumbag Dani picked up on it and harped on it to pile on for future games?
I mean that scumbag Dani herself didn’t have any trouble scoring goals and getting things going in the Phone Booth during that series Is she not a skill player for the Flyers?
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I’m glad he considers his team shitty skaters that would have been beaten handily on better ice.
by DrinkingPartner on Dec 23, 2009 11:16 AM EST up reply actions
Interesting interpretation. Because that scumbag Dani said “it was another thing” meaning, it wasn’t the only thing that they had in their favor in her eyes.
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That was alsso two years ago, if you’ll recall. The Flyers have had some substantial upgrades since then.
Unleash the Alex!
Yup. Just look at their record and their goals scored relative to the league — they’ve become offensive juggernauts.
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Dec 24, 2009 12:09 AM EST up reply actions
It is legit, and it’s my team, too. Bad enough when that happens on a Saturday, but I was shocked when I saw it was scheduled to happen today. A weekday. Sure, the kids are out on winter break, but the rest of the world isn’t.
"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."
Exactly. Most of the people who show up are Alums/donors who aren’t students and may not have the day off.
And the official attendence was listed at 7,613. Now I don’t know the G-town Campus that well but couldn’t they have played that game in McDonough?
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MCDonough hold 2,500. It’s shockingly small. For comparison’s sake, American’s much derided “high school-esque” Bender Arena holds about 4,500
Fun fact: A popular opinion can still be stupid.
McDonough was built in the 50’s. It is, or was, literally called McDonough Gymnasium. Not Arena. It’s got to be falling apart by now.
"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."
Scott Hartnell will be on The Price is Right today. While he’s there, perhaps Jeff Carter will be playing Plinko with his wife.
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by J.P. on Dec 23, 2009 9:27 AM EST reply actions 3 recs
I’m not sure which is more curious, Hartnell on Price is Right, or that he’s married.
Fun fact: A popular opinion can still be stupid.
His wife’s a catch, too, albeit in dire need of a burger or twelve.
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Is this related to the cow farts study?
Ron and Fez 11 to 3
by YvonLabresMoustache on Dec 23, 2009 10:24 AM EST up reply actions
I also read “break wind” on quick scan.
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Dec 24, 2009 12:09 AM EST up reply actions
Semyon Varlamov disagrees.
"Let the rest be scared of us." - Emo Bunny Sasha Semin
by Scott in Shaw on Dec 23, 2009 12:16 PM EST up reply actions
Though, at times, redundant and repetitive.
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I’m hearing that at times Bruce Boudreau is redundant and repetitive.
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Dec 23, 2009 10:08 AM EST up reply actions
The Kashirsky article was very interesting. Couldn’t have been easy to come from Moscow and spend four years at Norwich; that’s some serious commitment to getting an education. Sounds like a guy who has his head screwed on right.
Does anyone know what his contract status is?
Fun fact: A popular opinion can still be stupid.
He doesn’t have one (I mean, he’s got one with SC). Might he have been at Caps rookie camp in the summer of ’08?
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Follow-up: definitely was at a Caps dev’t camp, either this past summer or ’08.
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He was at camp in 08 and translated for Varlamov according to Corey.
"It feels really good to be able to help out. I can help tell him what the coaches want him to do to be a better player."
by Ice Warrior on Dec 23, 2009 12:43 PM EST up reply actions
This is like freaking poetry
So, hockey players, and especially hockey team has always been good at partying. Under en säsong är det givetvis full fokus på matcherna och serien. During a season, it is of course fully focused on the matches and series. Men innan serien startar eller när det dyker upp något kortare uppehåll klämmer man alltid in någon lagfest. But before the series starts, or when it appears slightly shorter residence pinches always someone Lagfest. Alltid stor uppslutning och jävligt kul. Always well attended and damn funny.
You just can’t top that. I think I want “Always well attended and damn funny” as my epitaph.
"You're gonna eat that g**d**n Koho, three!"
I threw up a little in my mouth
…When I read “Please let Mark Cuban buy an NHL team” on Adrian Dater’s wishlist.
Yeah…I think he would be good for the game. He’s entertaining, would bring instant media attention, and he would have the gravitas to push the league in places where it needs to be pushed.
Ron and Fez 11 to 3
by YvonLabresMoustache on Dec 23, 2009 10:45 AM EST up reply actions
I think it’d be pretty cool if he owned the Stars, or perhaps Phoenix, one of the southern teams that could use the media and help further validate the Top-4 status for the sport outside of its traditional market (NE corridor, Canada, the western Great Lakes region, etc.)
I think it’d be a disaster if he owned an Original Six franchise.
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Not a fan. The guy is an arrogant blowhard who thinks getting lucky during the dotcom boom qualifies him to obnoxiously comment on all sorts of things he doesn’t understand.
I’m curious why Dater wants him to buy one.
So what if his phony baloney qualifications to comment on sports stuff if different than ours?
I would like to point out I don’t know who the guy in question is.
My ability to post is only surpassed by my ability to pinch pennies.
But he’s one hell of a marketer, which the game of hockey needs. And he’s also been one of the major forces behind the proliferation of HD television throughout the country, for awhile the only things in HD, were his channels, discovery channel, and a very small amount of sporting events on the major networks. I don’t think his money has nearly as much to do with luck as you do.
I’m all in favor of letting Cuban buy a team. They’d never win a playoff series, and Cuban would always be getting fined by Bettman.
If you've read this far...seek help.
by ThePeerless on Dec 23, 2009 1:42 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Going back to hockey...
Only on this blog could conversations encompass:
- The National Anthem
- Modern Art or Not?
- Baseball
and completely ignore the fact there’s a game tonight.
Yes. We’ve ignored the fact that there’s a game tonight.
Really?
And you forgot a bullet for cow farts.
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I was ignoring the cow farts…
Just pointing out where in the commentary the most comments are happening.
Oh, and crappy ice.
I did not say, or mean to imply, that the original article was ignoring the game; only the commenters.
by IRockTheRed on Dec 23, 2009 10:59 AM EST up reply actions
Feel free to comment on the game if you’d like – there’s 8 hours until it starts, I’m sure there’ll be plenty of discussion on it. Or not.
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I THINK MILLER WILL BE GOALIE 1 ON USA OLYMPICS THIS YEAR
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Jason Pominville is teh sux
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by J.P. on Dec 23, 2009 11:02 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
the sabres area crappy team and i think they suck their only good becuz miller has been lucky thisyear. oh well at least buffalo wings are awesome lol.
GO CAPS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111one
by David M. Getz on Dec 23, 2009 11:07 AM EST up reply actions
Go Wings Go!
Ron and Fez 11 to 3
by YvonLabresMoustache on Dec 23, 2009 11:08 AM EST up reply actions
I wish he coached St. Louis. Then when the team was bad, the headlines would be great. “No Spirit In St. Louis, Says Lindy”
Ron and Fez 11 to 3
by YvonLabresMoustache on Dec 23, 2009 11:09 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
What the heck does this have to do with Salisbury steak?
Please stay on topic, iRtR.
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Salisbury steak? Hamburger with a fancy name. ;-)
by IRockTheRed on Dec 23, 2009 11:02 AM EST up reply actions
And a fancy presentation, if you go to the right place.

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That ain’t Salisbury steak… it does look really yummy, though!
by IRockTheRed on Dec 23, 2009 11:03 AM EST up reply actions
And today’s winner of the Scott In Shaw “It’s lunchtime” award goes to winterion.
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by J.P. on Dec 23, 2009 11:03 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah, I’ve got some jalapeño-stuffed links with relish and onion to enjoy next hour, along with a chilled Pepsi.
It’s weird.. next Wednesday is my last day at work, but it doesn’t feel like it yet.
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Not a fan, or not enough willpower to say no?
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Oh. Ehh, I know myself.. it’s not chili, I’ll be fine. My body is generally a low-emission vehicle.
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Quite the opposite.. I tried to donate blood, they gave me two cookies and told me to beat it. Apparently, having a BMI of “HOLY S*** EAT A CHEESEBURGER” is not high enough, by medical standards, for most doctors’ comfort.
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You should be glad. They gave me bruises in both arms that hurt for a week at the last Caps blood drive. And no free tickets this year! Yikes.
My ability to post is only surpassed by my ability to pinch pennies.
I got up at 5:30 in the morning for that, and missed being able to donate by one lousy point on the iron count…
by IRockTheRed on Dec 23, 2009 11:15 AM EST up reply actions
You’re supposed to still get the free swag though, right?
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Yep! And my daughter screamed very happily when she got her birthday present, neatly framed and matted. :-)
by IRockTheRed on Dec 23, 2009 11:36 AM EST up reply actions
Have scientists studied the effects of winterion flatulence yet?
My ability to post is only surpassed by my ability to pinch pennies.
Rec’d (although my previously scheduled steak lunch at Cap Grille was cancelled)
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by Scott in Shaw on Dec 23, 2009 12:18 PM EST up reply actions
Seriously
Drive from Syracuse to Binghamton and then reassess that statement.
In an ideal world all ten fingers would be on my left hand so my right hand could just be a fist for punching.
by Fehr and Balanced on Dec 23, 2009 5:04 PM EST up reply actions
If you’re in the vicinity of one, it really can’t be ignored.
I could have been equipment manager, but nooooo!
No, but that does not change the “deserve” part. After all, if we all got what we truly deserved, we’d all be in dire straits, so ….
Unleash the Alex!
And then we’d get money for nothin and chicks for free.
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by jordanDC on Dec 23, 2009 11:10 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
You don’t have to be a sultan of swing to get that reference
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Dec 23, 2009 11:10 AM EST up reply actions
Something something something Mark Knopfler.
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Come on…its easy. Its not so far away.
Ron and Fez 11 to 3
by YvonLabresMoustache on Dec 23, 2009 11:17 AM EST up reply actions
Bah, eyes skipped over your comment and I re-used your pun.
Only YOU can prevent idiots from commenting!
by Knee high to a duck on Dec 23, 2009 3:13 PM EST up reply actions
And we (all of our brothers in arms) would be doing the walk of life.
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by J.P. on Dec 23, 2009 11:11 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
And running on heavy fuel, walking on every street, before we were twisting by the pool, waiting for Romeo and Juliet to arrive from so far away.
Only YOU can prevent idiots from commenting!
by Knee high to a duck on Dec 23, 2009 3:13 PM EST up reply actions
Oh yes, and we mustn’t forget:
- Underoos.
Very important stuff, that… :-p
by IRockTheRed on Dec 23, 2009 11:00 AM EST up reply actions
Well revisiting a topic discussed here a few weeks ago…
Since we brought up the National Anthem, do we want to start tonight with the booing of the “RED!” and “O!” “cheers” to finally kill those stupid things?
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How about we start a text campaign to the Jumbotron:
“O!” is for Orioles!
or something…
by IRockTheRed on Dec 23, 2009 11:14 AM EST up reply actions
Distribute “Know Your Hockey” pamphlets at games explaining the do’s and don’ts?
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And we could punch it up with a catchy slogan…Kn-O-w Your Hockey
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Dec 23, 2009 11:18 AM EST up reply actions
Why not? Our “Free Alex” campaign was win. :-)
by IRockTheRed on Dec 23, 2009 11:19 AM EST up reply actions
It’s a short pamphlet.
DON’T LEAN!
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I don’t think booing anything during the anthem is going to get you very far.
I could have been equipment manager, but nooooo!
Yay! I get to see him live!
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by CapitalCentre on Dec 23, 2009 11:38 AM EST up reply actions
Dater’s article loses all worth and credibility based entirely on:
- Please let more NHL play-by-play announcers sound like Jack Edwards and Rick Jeanerett
Does he listen to their games? Those two are among the worst.
Now drink with me deeply of the bourbon, scotch, and rye until such time as we are fighting drunk.
by Steckel Me Elmo on Dec 23, 2009 11:18 AM EST reply actions
Sounds like an NHL game that’s being broadcast in Hell.
Ron and Fez 11 to 3
by YvonLabresMoustache on Dec 23, 2009 11:19 AM EST up reply actions
As opposted to a game called by Chuck Kaiton, where it sounds like it’s being broadcast underwater.
My ability to post is only surpassed by my ability to pinch pennies.
Or a game called by Paul Steigerwald, which features references to dead Great War pilots and Bob Errey’s snickerings
Ron and Fez 11 to 3
by YvonLabresMoustache on Dec 23, 2009 11:22 AM EST up reply actions
That is very true, but I always find Chuck Kaiton an amusing announcer on the rare times I hear him. There is something about his underwater voice that I get a kick out of.
Of all our iniquities ignorance may be the worst
by Killer_Carlson on Dec 23, 2009 4:35 PM EST up reply actions
And the Hell broadcast would HAVE to have Dave Mishkin.
SCOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORE!! SCOREEEE!!!!!
Lightning trail, 3-1!
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haha…is that the SAINT LOUUUUWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE guy?
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Dec 23, 2009 11:28 AM EST up reply actions
Probably. He just fucking screams as loud as he can for every single lightning goal, no matter how important it might or might not be. Then, in something I genuinely find hilarious, he totally downplays opposing team goals.
Ovechkin in over the line, shoots.. aand he scores.
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I like Jim Hughson. I wish they would put him back in the NHL EA games.
I mean, I got nothing against Thorne, but i’ve been hearing him and Clement do the exact same stuff for at least 3 years now…time for another announce team.
Ron and Fez 11 to 3
by YvonLabresMoustache on Dec 23, 2009 11:31 AM EST up reply actions
That’s a push for me. What would not be a push would be fixing the damned pronunciations. Just call each local sportscaster and ask them, in about 30 seconds, “Please pronounce each player from your team’s roster? I’m recording. Thanks.”
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Yeah, that would be great. So irritating.
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2K series has had the same guys for several years now, too. And continues to pronounce Huet as “Hew-et.”
Fun fact: A popular opinion can still be stupid.
Its funny how Thorne pronounces “Semin” like he’s supposed to, but the voice in the arena announces it “See-men”
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Dec 23, 2009 11:43 AM EST up reply actions
Isn’t his name actually supposed to be pronounced “Syomin?” I thought the second letter in Cyrillic was ë rather than e…
It is indeed.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Dec 23, 2009 2:18 PM EST up reply actions
That’s what I thought…
Wonder why he hasn’t pulled a “Semyon” and gotten the transliteration fixed……..
They should have the local comcast guys say all the names just for the comedy effect. Its gotten ludicrous to the point where now I can’t wait for the intermission reports for the high comedy soon to follow.
Ron and Fez 11 to 3
by YvonLabresMoustache on Dec 23, 2009 11:41 AM EST up reply actions
Stephane……Velloo
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Dec 23, 2009 11:43 AM EST up reply actions
My mom calls him Varldamort. I keep telling her he’s the Caps goaltender, not the villain in Harry Potter!
My mom calls himVarldamortthe name that shall not be mentioned. I keep telling her he’s the Caps goaltender, not the villain in Harry Potter!
Fixed
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Dec 23, 2009 2:43 PM EST up reply actions
he totally downplays opposing team goals.
Ever listened to Kolbe? He relays the fact of an opposition score in the tones normally reserved for cancer, the dissolution of a marriage, and the like.
"You're gonna eat that g**d**n Koho, three!"
So we’re talking about NHL broadcasts in hell and no one has brought up New Jersey?
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by D'ohboy on Dec 23, 2009 2:45 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Their radio team is awful, but I would rather listen to boring than Doc Emrick. Most grating voice in the world.
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Staal carries it over the line and OHHHHHHHHHHHHH what a save by Bro-door and OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH another save by Bro-door…..the puck is loose in front and OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH another save by Bro-door….
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Rebound he SCARARARARARARARARARARARARARARASSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!
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I feel like you two are Arthur and Bedevere saying NI unto me.
My ability to post is only surpassed by my ability to pinch pennies.
wasn’t Emrick the one who pulled the “Oh! Oh! Oh-vechkin!” during the Rangers series last season?
Fun fact: A popular opinion can still be stupid.
Another guy that I don’t like is Michael Haynes from the Avalanche. When the play gets exciting he just shouts out a bunch of excited noises instead of actually calling what is happening.
“The puck goes to the front of the net AAAAAAAHHHHHH UUUHH OOOOOOOOOHHHHH aaaannnnddd AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH SCCCCCCCCAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH, SUPER JOE!”
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by Killer_Carlson on Dec 23, 2009 4:41 PM EST up reply actions
Oh dear God. That’s horrid. You could throw battery-operated circular saws into a chalkboard factory and the resulting cacophony would have wittier observations of the game at hand. Those two bring the sort of insight and analysis the people of Buffalo have come to expect from their vacuum cleaners – a lot of white noise and sucking. Do you know why people watch Sabres games on mute? Because they love their family too much to do otherwise.
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The only thing Jeannerett did that I ever liked was the May Day Goal against Boston. Other than that I can’t deal with him. It really sucks for poor Harry Neale that he’s stuck with that guy instead of Bob Cole (whom I love).
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Dec 23, 2009 11:25 AM EST up reply actions
I hate how every Buffalo highlight package on NHL on the Fly always has to play clips from the Buffalo feed too. The guy’s goal call is insuferable. It’s worse than John Sterling on the Yankees broadcasts.
His voice is so nasally I feel like he’s actually holding his nostrils together when he talks.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Dec 23, 2009 11:28 AM EST up reply actions
They do the same thing for the Pittsburgh and Boston feeds as well. It’s like On The Fly intentionally picks the worst announcers in the league and then makes sure that they are always used for the highlights.
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by Killer_Carlson on Dec 23, 2009 4:38 PM EST up reply actions
Happy Alvistime!
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by Fehr and Balanced on Dec 23, 2009 5:07 PM EST up reply actions
Hey, if anyone’s looking for free tickets to tonight’s game… http://twitter.com/paulrovnak/status/6968589779
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Tell me the best thing about @JapersRink blog. If I agree with you, you get my 2 tickets 4 tonight’s game. Sec 406. Row A. Bring the snark.
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Here are the ones that @'d me (not sure how to find the ones that didn't)...
J_D_P @paulrovnak Best part of @JapersRink is that it directed me to follow you and become your 400th follower
vpipkt @paulrovnak on @japersrink I like the fine blending of statistical breakdowns and smarmy attitude
wzzntzz his surly incites!!! it like wzntz w/ better speling, beter stats, better sport!! RT @paulrovnak Tell me the best thing about @JapersRink
VTcaps @paulrovnak @JapersRink And truly, the range of views on players, teams, stats, etc., and the openness to other viewpoints among members
paul_to_the_max @paulrovnak thanks to @JapersRink Caps Clips morning tweet, I didn’t need to buy a new alarm clock. The clips are good too.
jake_shapiro @paulrovnak: Well, @JapersRink’s firm daily defense of Jeff “Cinco Cinco” Schultz brings new meaning to the phrase “balanced journalism”!
Mr_R0b0t0 RT @paulrovnak @JapersRink blog is easier to read than the word I have to retype to prove I’m not an internet robot… http://bit.ly/8EHMFU
hogshaven @paulrovnak No Caps site has wider coverage & deeper insight than @JapersRink. Never a delay in posting his insight & depth on breaking news
ngreenberg @paulrovnak @JapersRink blog is easier to read than the word I have to retype to prove I’m not an internet robot
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paul_to_the_max @paulrovnak thanks to @JapersRink Caps Clips morning tweet, I didn’t need to buy a new alarm clock.
Awesome.
by David M. Getz on Dec 23, 2009 1:05 PM EST up reply actions
JP should delay the clips by and hour or so just to mess with that guy.
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by Laich It Or Lump It on Dec 23, 2009 1:13 PM EST up reply actions
If I could get to my twitter, I’d say I came for the inference and stayed for the implications.
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You have no idea how many times I read that comment before I finally got what you meant. Holiday brain.
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by boutros23 on Dec 23, 2009 2:42 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Random Link
Bleacher Report wants to know what makes the Washington Capitals so great.
Unleash the Alex!
They score more goals than the other team.
by David M. Getz on Dec 23, 2009 11:51 AM EST up reply actions
They’re not the Redskins
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Dec 23, 2009 11:52 AM EST up reply actions
Or Nats or Wizards.
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Related: Japers’ Rink wants to know what makes Bleacher Report consistently readable?
I’ve yet to find an answer to that one.
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Certainly this link was pretty silly, but I’m not against enlightening people or passing the torch. Up to you.
Unleash the Alex!
The thing is, I don’t really know where to start with a question like that. It’s basically “why are the Capitals a good hockey team?” and at the basic level the answer is “they have good players and a good coach”. Obviously you can get much more detailed than that, but then it winds up being a whole bunch of stuff and a rambling response.
I dunno, maybe suggest he make a Fan Post here. I’m sure the discussion will help answer his questions, even questions he doesn’t know he has yet.
by David M. Getz on Dec 23, 2009 12:11 PM EST up reply actions
Other than the old school sounding blog name, not much, al teast from what I’ve read.
by S h a g g y on Dec 23, 2009 12:07 PM EST up reply actions
Why does Jarrett Carter call himself an analyst? Shouldn’t it be “neophyte” or “bandwagonesque casual observer”?
by S h a g g y on Dec 23, 2009 12:04 PM EST up reply actions
CincoCinco that’s what!
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by Ovechwin on Dec 23, 2009 1:19 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
New thread to discuss Neuvy getting the start. Are you… wait for it… Neuvous?
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by J.P. on Dec 23, 2009 1:07 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
Only in NY
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Just kickin’ out the spinnin’ pucks, lookin’ for fun and feelin’ Neuvy… feeling Neuvy….
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by ThePeerless on Dec 23, 2009 2:13 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Carlson officially named to Team USA for WJCs. Congrats John! U-S-A! Even though you lost to the Czechs yesterday.
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Can’t say I truly disagree with their choices. Spoiler: Crosby doesn’t make the first team, but someone else does.
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From Oct. 5, 2005, the day he burst onto the NHL scene with a pair of goals in the Washington Capitals’ 3-2 victory over Columbus, Ovechkin has played the game with the kind of skill and panache that sets him apart from his peers.
The thing I took away from that game was that he put a player through the glass on his first shift. That is announcing your presence with authority.
If you've read this far...seek help.
Where’s Joe Thornton?
And why is Chris Osgood on this list at all?
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Dec 23, 2009 2:27 PM EST up reply actions
Osgood and Jagr are really my only two disagreements on that list.
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by Steckel Me Elmo on Dec 23, 2009 2:30 PM EST up reply actions
Either of their honorable mentions.
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by Steckel Me Elmo on Dec 23, 2009 2:34 PM EST up reply actions
Or Hasek.
I mean, awards are what they are, but I don’t understand how he can put a guy on his list that wasn’t even judged to be the best goaltender at all in the entire decade, not to mention a guy who’s been pretty average his entire career.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Dec 23, 2009 2:39 PM EST up reply actions
Def think Thornton should be on that list over Sakic.
Thornton (in the decade)
223 goals, 511 assists 734 points
Sakic
222 goals 359 assists 581 points
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Dec 23, 2009 2:34 PM EST up reply actions
10 Worst Caps of the Decade
I found this article via PuckDaddy, which lists the Ten Worst Kings of the Decade. I got thinking about the Caps in that regard, and here’s my list.
10. Dmitri Kristich Redux – came back from Toronto and was bascially useless. Minus 8, 29 points in 43 games, did nothing in Ron Wilson’s last year.
9. Mike Grier – never liked this guy, who was a whole-is-less-than-sum-of-parts kind of player his whole career. Big, strong, could skate, but zero hockey sense and a butcher’s hands, combined with a sparkling 14 in ’02’03. Blech.
8. Butch Cassidy – just a bad idea to start with, he had some really complicated system that the players refused to buy into, never had the respect of the team. I give Ted credit for thinking outside the box, but this one just fizzled.
7. Nylander – you all know why.
6. Brian Sutherby – symptomatic of the talent wasteland that the Caps were in the middle of the decade, when they iced a team of AHL talent. Sutherby was a never-will-be that the Caps were trying to pass off as legit talent. I hated him for that alone.
5. Ben Clymer – see above, with the additional burden of having salary-cap implications after his departure, due to a buyout.
4. Jason Doig – touted as a future cornerstone, but just really sucked.
3. Trevor Linden – brought in to aid in a playoff push, which didn’t work. Came back the next year to add insult to injury. Supposed to have been a premier power forward, but was basically invisible.
2. Dmitri Mironov – A bust FA pickup, supposed to be a puck-moving defenseman who could QB the power play but also provide legit top-pairing defensive minutes. Was a nonentity in almost every fashion, and could not get out of town fast enough.
1. Jaromir Jagr – so many negatives, only about 45 or so years of life expectancy for me to finish my thoughts regarding this putrid, stinking mass of shit. Too tired to play hard in a playoff game (try laying off the cheeseburgers, douchebag); routinely took entire games off when not in the mood to play; also routinely took entire periods off when feeling less than 100%; and regularly served up lackadaisical shifts. If he got two goals in the first period, forget about him for the rest of the night. A turnover machine in his own zone. Refused to back check. An absolute lock for worst Cap of all time.
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Mike Grier? Really? Over guys like Jakub Klepis, Kris Beech, Jiri Novotny, Rico Fata, Ivan Ciernik, and Andreas Salomonsson?
by David M. Getz on Dec 23, 2009 2:52 PM EST up reply actions
Agreed – Grier was good while he was here, IMO.
by DrinkingPartner on Dec 23, 2009 2:58 PM EST up reply actions
I thought long and hard about all of those guys but Salomonsson, to tell you the truth. Especially Beech, Novotny and Klepis. But I wanted to get Grier in there, as he was a personal anti-fave of mine for consistently failing to be what he could have been. And with Clymer and Sutherby on the list, I figured I had enough of the middle-decade AHL types.
"You're gonna eat that g**d**n Koho, three!"
He had size, speed and strength – based on the eyeball test and his tools, he should have been a very productive player. His horrible, horrible, horrible hands and his lack of feel for the game negated all that. He consistently underwhelmed to a great degree, was my basic point. See Peerless’s point about breakaway failures below.
"You're gonna eat that g**d**n Koho, three!"
Matthieu Biron?
Ivan Majesky?
Alexandre Giroux?
Petr Sykora?
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Dec 23, 2009 2:53 PM EST up reply actions
Brian Willsie?
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Dec 23, 2009 2:53 PM EST up reply actions
Here's the thing
Well…I will put forth a Jeff, but its not Schultz. His last name rhymes with a delicious chocolate treat

Ron and Fez 11 to 3
by YvonLabresMoustache on Dec 23, 2009 2:59 PM EST up reply actions
You’re gonna hate on Clymer? He’s pretty much Sloan. The buyout was probably the same as the NMC, a lesson GMGM learned early, but far, far less painful.
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To me, he was a symbol of the total lack of legit talent in the organization. Not good enough to really play anywhere, got a contract mostly due to the fact that there was no better option within the organization, and the contract was a mistake. He’s probably a decent guy, but he stuck in my craw for those reasons.
Your mileage may differ.
"You're gonna eat that g**d**n Koho, three!"
I’m sorry, but when was DOIG! ever passed off as a future cornerstone???
I’m going to have to ask for proof on that one.
My problem with Grier was that he could never convert the breakaway but was a solid citizen.
Nylander was ok the first time around. Showed up the second time and then didn’t fit into what we were doing.
And where is Joe Murphy on this list?
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Because we can never get enough of this discussion, Mirtle picks Green for Team Canada.
Fun fact: A popular opinion can still be stupid.
I get through 500+ comments and nobody mentions that HockeysFuture completely undersold Carlson? How is he the second D mentioned? The rest of those guys are amateurs and Carlson is lighting it up in one of the best Pro-leagues in the world. If Team USA is going to do anything in this tournament Carlson is going to have to challenge for the Best D award. Ridiculous.
Also not a fan of the fact that Team USA’s D are all “offensive D” and no mention of anyone that shuts down the other team. Then they say “Most of Team USA’s offense will come from the back end.” Does not sound like a recipe for success.
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