Saturday Caps Clips: Game Over Green Returns; Caps @ Maple Leafs Game Day
by J.P. on Dec 12, 2009 9:37 AM EST
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Your savory breakfast links:
- Recaps and other assorted musings on last night's "Mike Green giveth and Mike Green taketh away" win from Corey (blog, article), Tarik (blog, article), Vogs, Washington Examiner, Joe B., Peerless, Ed Frankovic, Fight for Old DC, Canes Country and Red and Black Hockey.
- Preview of tonight's Caps/Leafs game (a rematch of a Hockey Night in Canada loss from three weeks back) from NHL.com, and be sure to check out our SB Nation partner (and e-BFFs) Pension Plan Puppets for the very best coverage from the other side of tonight's match up.
- The Caps apparently had some plane troubles last night and flew to Toronto early this morning as a result. [@GreenLife52]
- "If most of us could catch [Alex Ovechkin], he would be a target," [Leafs blueliner Garnet] Exelby cracks. "But in reality, he is getting away with [the way he plays], and you're right -- you live by the sword -- you die by the sword. Eventually guys are going to have enough of that type of player." 348 games and counting... and we're still waiting, Ex. [National Post]
- Great stuff from "behind the scenes" of Hockey Night in Canada in preparation of tonight's match up. [CBC]
- "When the schedule came out, we certainly saw that [stretch] and said, 'Wow, [having the Capitals on Hockey Night in Canada four times in five weeks] will be great,' " HNIC producer Doug Walton said. "Anytime you get the schedule, you look for the all-Canadian matchups, and you look for Pittsburgh and Washington, so we recognized this pretty early." Memo to NBC: Not mentioned? Philadelphia. [National Post]
- Another "no" vote for Green for Team Canada. [SI.com]
- Did Matt Bradley just call Alexander Semin what I think he called Alexander Semin? [FanShot]
- Speaking of Semin, Bruce Boudreau admits regarding his enigmatic Russian that sometimes he wants "to use a stick and beat him over the head with it." [Examiner]
- Russ Thaler on what Ted Leonsis owning the Wizards might mean for the Caps. [CSN Washington]
- More from AO's "Men's Journal" shoot. [Alex Ovetjkin]
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Huh. The CBC article gives us this stat:
The game features a match-up of two of the top five picks in the 2006 NHL Entry Draft – Backstrom and Kessel. Here’s how the top picks from that draft have fared:
Most career points, players drafted in 2006 (through games of Nov. 10)
•Nicklas Backstrom, Was – 190
•Phil Kessel, Tor – 142
•Jonathan Toews, Chi – 141
•Jordan Staal, Pit – 137
•Peter Mueller, Pho – 95
And Nicky’s December numbers haven’t been too shabby.
ALEX, FЯEE
hey, that’s not how they were drafted!
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by bigonetimer on Dec 12, 2009 10:33 AM EST up reply actions
Worth remembering that Toews has been hurt. Otherwise he and Backstrom would be a lot closer.
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Dec 12, 2009 11:37 AM EST up reply actions
Yep.
Backstrom’s reliability adds value to his ability, alright.
by redlineblue on Dec 12, 2009 11:45 AM EST up reply actions
That’s not so relevant IMO. There was a discussion a few days ago that durability is a component to making great players great.
But it’s not like we know that Toews is going to have a career where he’s missing games left and right. It’s a small sample size. Just like if someone said that player X had more points than Ovechkin over the last two months, you’d say “well, yeah, Ovechkin was out”. In the grand scheme of things this is not much larger of a sample size than that.
by sixsevenfiftysix on Dec 12, 2009 1:40 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t see how ‘if Toews weren’t hurt’ can be a whit more (or less) relevant than “Nicky don’t scratch much”. Greatness x 82 > greatness x <82, assuming greatness=greatness.
I don’t think I’m not really following you. But greatness most certinly does not equal greatness. Toews is a solid player, but if I’m a GM and I have the choice between two players that are of similar talents but one isn’t as durable as the other, I’m choosing the durable one every time.
He (she?) is just being a math nerd. You two agree. Say g = greatness. Assuming g is positive, 82g > xg, where x < 82. So if Nick Backstrom and Jonathan Toews have equal g, but Backstrom plays 82 games a season and Toews plays some number x, then Backstrom is a better player (according to this philosophy).
by sixsevenfiftysix on Dec 12, 2009 3:17 PM EST up reply actions
Fair enough. I almost threw in there that I think we’re agreeing. My brain hurts too much from last night to deal with math right now.
Pretty small sample size to make any judgments about durability. I think the rate stats are a lot more helpful with young players like this.
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Dec 12, 2009 3:43 PM EST up reply actions
If I wasn’t concerned about how tired the team is going to be tonight, I’d say Ovie needs to deke his way around Exelby for a highlight reel goal tonight. I’m saying it anyway, but not expecting it.
"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."
I’m saying it anyway, but not expecting it.
Clearly you’ve never seen Exelby play.
by David M. Getz on Dec 12, 2009 11:06 AM EST up reply actions
I haven’t yet learned to be good enough watching to catch everything that happens on the ice; I’m following my guys first and foremost. That’s why I read you folks.
And I was referring more to the fact that it’s looking like the team is going to be lucky to make it to Toronto in time for the game.
"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."
Fair enough – just meant to rip on Exelby a little. He’s a younger version of Erskine.
by David M. Getz on Dec 12, 2009 11:40 AM EST up reply actions
Gah. Don’t say that. GMGM will give him a two-year, $2.5M deal.
by TylerG on Dec 12, 2009 11:41 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Looks like that would be a pay cut for him.
"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."
I liked the joke, but I think the fact that Ex is making more than that makes it doubly good. I believe that was another Don Waddel contract, no?
You're the reason that I hate Nova Scotia.
by Fehr and Balanced on Dec 12, 2009 1:53 PM EST up reply actions
I believe that was another Don Waddel contract
Yep. He’s the gift that just keeps on giving.
Only YOU can prevent idiots from commenting!
by Knee high to a duck on Dec 12, 2009 3:29 PM EST up reply actions
The biggest impediment to AO abusing Exelby tonight is that Wilson is smart enough to minimize the time Exelby is on the ice with AO.
Exelby has no business calling out other players for “living by the sword”.
Of all our iniquities ignorance may be the worst
by Killer_Carlson on Dec 12, 2009 3:50 PM EST up reply actions
Especially when it would be far more accurate to say “Live by the Richard Trophy” in the case of AO. AO’s not in the league to run guys through the boards, that’s just an added bonus. He’d still have a job even if he was as contact-averse as Ales Hemsky.
You're the reason that I hate Nova Scotia.
by Fehr and Balanced on Dec 12, 2009 4:04 PM EST up reply actions
Depends if you wish for Ex to get up or not. I have been hoping for someone to catch Ex with some frontier justice for some time, I just don’t want the guys career ended due to injury. I want his career ended because he’s no good.
You're the reason that I hate Nova Scotia.
by Fehr and Balanced on Dec 12, 2009 1:54 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Not too happy about the plane troubles. Hope they’re ready to go tonight.
http://dclandingstrip.com/
I just hope they don’t take any stupid risks. Fatigue breeds both losses and injuries. Tonight, I don’t care about a loss.
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Dec 12, 2009 11:39 AM EST up reply actions
We’ll see how that tune changes when they come out like crap or choke away a lead.
You're the reason that I hate Nova Scotia.
by Fehr and Balanced on Dec 12, 2009 1:54 PM EST up reply actions
Then I will feel neighborly good cheer for our good friends at PPP
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Dec 12, 2009 3:45 PM EST up reply actions
The tone is quite different from last time.
by red army line on Dec 12, 2009 3:47 PM EST up reply actions
OT: What is the Qwest Series?
I see that the NHLN is showing the Qwest series, Canada vs US live at 9pm tonight. I know I am showing my hockey ignorance, but what is it, and will it be worth watching after the caps game tonight?
Qwest Series
Is the US and Canadian national women’s hockey tour.
http://news.qwest.com/QwestTourAllAccess
Olympic previews, if you will.
ALEX, FЯEE
I use Qwest toothpaste evwy day.
Signed,
E. Fudd
If you've read this far...seek help.
by ThePeerless on Dec 12, 2009 10:30 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
You’d have a smarter mouth if you switched to Colgate.
You're the reason that I hate Nova Scotia.
by Fehr and Balanced on Dec 12, 2009 1:55 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Eventually guys are going to have enough of that type of player.
the dirty type, right? Agreed.
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by bigonetimer on Dec 12, 2009 10:30 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Cracks me up that a guy like XLB complains about dirty shots…
"You're gonna eat that g**d**n Koho, three!"
Given his role and style of play, I don’t think Exelby’s a particularly dirty player. He’s played 373 NHL games and I don’t think he’s ever been thrown out of one for anything non fighting related and I don’t think he has any non-fighting majors.
Don’t get me wrong – I spent an inordinate amount of time trying to convince people in Atlanta that Exelby wasn’t really all that good, but I never thought of him as dirty.
by David M. Getz on Dec 12, 2009 10:50 AM EST up reply actions
Perhaps he’d be a better player if he was dirty…
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Dec 12, 2009 11:40 AM EST up reply actions
I have a hard time separating Exelby and Sutton in my memory, so maybe Exelby doesn’t deserve the frontier justice I called for above. Still don’t like him.
You're the reason that I hate Nova Scotia.
by Fehr and Balanced on Dec 12, 2009 1:56 PM EST up reply actions
Sutton’s definetly much, much more the cheap shot artist. Exelby’s no angel, but Sutton’s the dirty one.
by David M. Getz on Dec 12, 2009 2:17 PM EST up reply actions
If that’s the worst hit Exelby’s ever thrown, I’d say he’s a pretty clean player given how hard he hits.
by David M. Getz on Dec 12, 2009 10:45 AM EST up reply actions
I forgot about that. That play looks Carcillo like an honorable man.
Now drink with me deeply of the bourbon, scotch, and rye until such time as we are fighting drunk.
by Steckel Me Elmo on Dec 12, 2009 10:55 AM EST up reply actions
I don’t know if I’d go that far. Comeau hits him up high in what was a 4-0 game halfway through the third. We see that happen in Atlanta and we’re upset about it, but I think that if that happens to Ovechkin or Green a lot of us are suddenly bemoaning the instigator penalty.
by David M. Getz on Dec 12, 2009 11:05 AM EST up reply actions
(sans spearing, which I missed the first time)
by David M. Getz on Dec 12, 2009 11:09 AM EST up reply actions
Comeau may have come up a little high, but Exelby threw out his elbow on it as well. Then there was hounding him down the ice, the tap to the cup (no matter how hard that is, it’s a bitch move), then a couple sucker punches to someone who wasn’t even willing to fight.
At the very least Carcillo didn’t chase Bradley, and knew Bradley was at least willing to fight.
Now drink with me deeply of the bourbon, scotch, and rye until such time as we are fighting drunk.
by Steckel Me Elmo on Dec 12, 2009 12:59 PM EST up reply actions
Don't defend Carcillo
Both of those were weak.
You're the reason that I hate Nova Scotia.
by Fehr and Balanced on Dec 12, 2009 2:00 PM EST up reply actions
I wasn’t at all saying that Carcillo was in the right. I was just trying to point out why I think Exelby’s is worse.
Now drink with me deeply of the bourbon, scotch, and rye until such time as we are fighting drunk.
by Steckel Me Elmo on Dec 12, 2009 2:08 PM EST up reply actions
Spearing’s about as low as you can go, but that one gives the Foul some new depth. I note with interest the chatter about 8 having a big target ‘on his back’. For all the righteous puling, should he not be approached from the front?
by redlineblue on Dec 12, 2009 11:01 AM EST up reply actions
Wait, where does spearing come in to this?
by David M. Getz on Dec 12, 2009 11:03 AM EST up reply actions
:45 of the video you linked. He punched the guy from behind, speared him in the nads from behind, punched from behind again, then sucker punched him in the face. Yeah, I would say it was a dirty play.
Oh, there it is. Didn’t watch the replay.
by David M. Getz on Dec 12, 2009 11:08 AM EST up reply actions
That was a little love tap cup check to get his attention. Not really what I would consider a viscous spear.
Hockey players aren't like other people. Witt after being hit by a car:
I’m okay. No big deal...I’ve got to go play some hockey. I’m a hockey player.
Not vicious, but it’s not ok ever.
You're the reason that I hate Nova Scotia.
by Fehr and Balanced on Dec 12, 2009 2:01 PM EST up reply actions
Ex looks like he needs a date with Mark Rypien. Fucking punk.
You're the reason that I hate Nova Scotia.
by Fehr and Balanced on Dec 12, 2009 1:58 PM EST up reply actions
Rick Rypien!
Rick Rypien, damnit!
/so mad I blew that
You're the reason that I hate Nova Scotia.
by Fehr and Balanced on Dec 12, 2009 1:58 PM EST up reply actions
That hit looks a lot like the one Mike Green got last night, but a little less directly to the head.
You're the reason that I hate Nova Scotia.
by Fehr and Balanced on Dec 12, 2009 1:57 PM EST up reply actions
Wow.
"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."
With all the hoo-rah about the trip, they’ll probably go out and lay eight on the Leafs tonight.
If you've read this far...seek help.
Who is getting the nod in net for the Caps tonight?
Do you think Theodore will be in or Neuvirth? From what I saw, Theodore didn’t look that bad last night, but he wasn’t tested very much.
I have to decide whether to play Theo or Roloson in my Yahoo League.
Also, Toronto has been scoring a bunch of goals lately, so having Theo in against them makes me a little nervous.
Yeah, it’s a tough call either way as Rolo has Boston tonight (if he even plays) and Theo has the Maple Leafs who seem like they either score 5 goals or 0.
Theo has two straight poor outings and the Caps are playing back to back. Last time Theo got back to back starts it was after he had a really good game on the first game, then he stunk on the second game. I’d bet heavily that Neuvirth is in net.
You're the reason that I hate Nova Scotia.
by Fehr and Balanced on Dec 12, 2009 2:02 PM EST up reply actions
Are you shitting me? This is the worst.
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BWAHAHAHA!!! DYING here over that bradley interview where he slips on Semin’s nickname. OMFG. chortle/wheeze/giggle
I wonder if anyone’s ever clued Sasha in on what that means.
There's always more to learn about Hockey.
I suspect the cursing and the slang are the first words the foreigners learn. Maybe they even know them before they get here.
"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."
He knows. I remember a few years ago someone asking him about pronunciation and he at one point said something to the effect, “Don’t pronounce it like that! I know what that means in English!”
by David M. Getz on Dec 12, 2009 12:19 PM EST up reply actions
Does anyone know how much jerseys are at Kettler? And do they have a wide range of players or just Ovechkin?
"And next year it will be ours."
You can get them customized at KCI. $60 for heat app, $80 for sewing (and a 3-4 week wait). I believe they are $175 or so there. I remember that they were noticably cheaper at KCI than at VC. Also, if you have a ticket stub from last night you could hit up a Modell’s and try for the 15% off.
KCI has plenty pre-made, like Varly, Semin (no Jizz, although maybe soon after Brads’ slip last night?), Laich, Green. Different prices depending on the quality of the jersey, I think, but I don’t recall the specific prices. Sorry.
AYHSMLN
I get my jerseys from either IceJerseys.com or CoolHockey.com.
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It’s about $160 shipped for a replica with sewn on lettering.
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Back to playing Xbox, we’ll stop by during the second period wooooo
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Boooo-urns.
You're the reason that I hate Nova Scotia.
by Fehr and Balanced on Dec 12, 2009 2:32 PM EST up reply actions
I actually thought the reaction was the funny part. So did Chemmy apparently.
Bummed I’m going to miss out on all the Rink/PPP fun later thisevening.
A man gotta have a code
HAHA! Two commenters alerting/poking mild fun at the author of the post for what was ostensibly an error that is commonly made and corrected when we do this very thing? Even funnier!
And yeah, why do I have to have a final exam on a Saturday night? Pfft…
by sixsevenfiftysix on Dec 12, 2009 3:49 PM EST up reply actions
we’ll stop by during the second period wooooo
We should go over to PPP for the third and return the favor.
"And next year it will be ours."
I’m going to be in Hershey tonight but will cheer on the Caps and the Bears together.
Unleash the Alex!
We expect a breakdown of the talent tomorrow, GS.
by HateOffSeason on Dec 12, 2009 3:38 PM EST up reply actions
It is Michal Neuvirth, though, not Michael. (Dunno why that always bugs me so much.)
"Camaraderie, that's what the Washington Capitals are all about."
by CapitalCentre on Dec 12, 2009 2:45 PM EST up reply actions
One more mostly OT note on the game for those who were there. Hey folks? Singing the national anthem was frickin’ cool. More please.
Unleash the Alex!
I started to sing and someone behind me was like “Shut up” I don’t think a lot of people got the idea.
"And next year it will be ours."
Ouch.
Watch, he’s probably one of the people who shouts “RED!” and “OH!”
There will be a Яeckoning for the wЯecking ball
by Steck It Out on Dec 12, 2009 2:59 PM EST up reply actions
i usually sing it… but then i sing a lot. haha. i’m sad i missed it, though – sounded cool!
"No Brooks Laich, no win. Know Brooks Laich, know win."
I tried singing once, but a lady nearby asked out loud, “gee, when did humpback whales start swimming up the Potomac River?”
If you've read this far...seek help.
And then you said...
“About the same time they started walking on land and watching the Caps play at the VC. Shut your pie hole.”
You're the reason that I hate Nova Scotia.
by Fehr and Balanced on Dec 12, 2009 3:23 PM EST up reply actions
To which the proper response is “When you entered heat”
Only YOU can prevent idiots from commenting!
by Knee high to a duck on Dec 12, 2009 3:24 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
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| GP | W | L | OTL | PT | |
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Washington
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82 | 54 | 15 | 13 | 121 |
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Atlanta
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82 | 35 | 34 | 13 | 83 |
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Carolina
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82 | 35 | 37 | 10 | 80 |
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Tampa Bay
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82 | 34 | 36 | 12 | 80 |
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Florida
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82 | 32 | 37 | 13 | 77 |
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