"Alex Ovechkin is day-to-day with a sore knee."
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Not bad. Not bad at all.
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by ninefttall on Dec 1, 2009 11:42 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
At least it’s not “week-to-week.”
by JimCareyFanClub on Dec 1, 2009 11:43 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Hmmm.
“Day-to-day with a sore knee” is perhaps the least informative option available to the club.
I’m actually less hopeful than before, as the closed-mouth stance is rarely indicative of good news.
"You're gonna eat that g**d**n Koho, three!"
by fat_daddyo on Dec 1, 2009 11:43 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I think day-to-day with a lower body injury would have been bad. They straight up call this a sore knee. Maybe you’re being a bit too paranoid?
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by zephyr on Dec 1, 2009 11:45 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree. Sore knee just sounds like sore knee.
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by jordanDC on Dec 1, 2009 11:46 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Just because you’re paranoid doesn’t they’re not out to get you.
Haha.
Yeah, I’m perhaps overly pessimistic. I hope so. I’m skeptical when it comes to non-report reports, i.e., the report is technically true, but gives very little real information.
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by fat_daddyo on Dec 1, 2009 11:57 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m sorta with FD here – could be downplaying it to bait Campbell into a short(er) suspension. He went from day-to-day to week-to-week on the last injury, you’ll recall…
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by J.P. on Dec 1, 2009 11:48 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
So you’re saying after his suspension, he’ll show up for practice – skate for 2 minutes and then be diagnosed for Week to week?
damn – that does make sense….
by vt caps fan on Dec 1, 2009 11:50 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That was sort of a mystery injury though. Maybe I’m a bit too optimistic.
Today he already skated so he was using his injured limb. The last injury he would skate but without a stick.
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by zephyr on Dec 1, 2009 11:51 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The last injury, though, was an upper body thing, where skating with or without a stick would make a difference to recovery (i.e. if he was using it too much). Skating with or without a stick with a knee injury? Not so big a difference…
by IRockTheRed on Dec 1, 2009 11:51 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That wasn’t my point. My point was he is already using his injured limb were as last time he didn’t. If his knee was that bad he wouldn’t be on the ice at all.
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by zephyr on Dec 1, 2009 11:57 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
OH! OK, I’m slow on the uptake this morning. D’oh! :-p Sorry!
by IRockTheRed on Dec 1, 2009 11:59 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Strike that – he was never officially “day-to-day” on the last one.
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by J.P. on Dec 1, 2009 11:55 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
(Though he called himself “day-to-day”)
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by J.P. on Dec 1, 2009 12:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Btw, that was an awesome FanPost, YNC. If you were to once again document the injury reactions/timeline/etc., you’d be doing a tremendous service to the blog.
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by J.P. on Dec 1, 2009 12:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
YNC deserves a gold star for all that she does here!
by RedBirdie on Dec 1, 2009 12:07 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
"No Brooks Laich, no win. Know Brooks Laich, know win."
by kellobellow on Dec 1, 2009 12:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Holy Crap that’s one big-ass gold star.
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by D'ohboy on Dec 1, 2009 12:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
And wonderfully uncollapsible..
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by jordanDC on Dec 1, 2009 12:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
oops! my bad, haha.
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by kellobellow on Dec 1, 2009 12:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It’s ok. Just don’t do it again or you will be suspended for two games.
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by Laich It Or Lump It on Dec 1, 2009 12:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Becca would get away with it, though, because she’s got star status.
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by Fehr and Balanced on Dec 1, 2009 3:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
What’d you expect from a teacher?
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by J.P. on Dec 1, 2009 12:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
haha, for real :)
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by kellobellow on Dec 1, 2009 12:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Teachers never gave me gold stars. They mostly sent me to the principal’s office.
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by D'ohboy on Dec 1, 2009 12:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Cool. Hadn’t looked at that post in a while, and I see where my sig started changing, lol.. I’ll think about putting up a new AO injury post later tonight. I hadn’t intended to be the only one posting links to it, but that’s how it mostly turned out. With any luck this knee ain’t so bad, and can’t generate nearly the amount of speculation that his mystery ‘upper-body strain’ did. Right?
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by Your Nation's Capital on Dec 1, 2009 12:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You could include suspension info/opinion/etc. as well.
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by J.P. on Dec 1, 2009 12:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, yes I s’pose I could.
But it’s gonna wait ’til after I see Mike Knuble at the Hilton Garden Inn tonight.
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by Your Nation's Capital on Dec 1, 2009 12:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
With camera in tow, I hope.
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by J.P. on Dec 1, 2009 12:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Strike striking that – he was initially d-t-d.
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by J.P. on Dec 1, 2009 12:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Nicely researched.
My gut says that 2 weeks is on the very lowest end we can expect here.
As above, I hope I’m wrong.
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by fat_daddyo on Dec 1, 2009 12:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
My research was first believing @TSNBobMcKenzie, then @NateEwell, then @NateEwell…
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by J.P. on Dec 1, 2009 12:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, but at least you tracked down the facts and got it sorted out.
Accuracy counts in life (much to the chagrin of my children).
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by fat_daddyo on Dec 1, 2009 12:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Can we play the official "Guess the suspension" game?
3
by TFG on Dec 1, 2009 11:43 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Out on a limb
0
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by jordanDC on Dec 1, 2009 11:46 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If this happens, the guy at Hockey Wilderness is going to have a coronary. I’m pretty sure he is going to have some serious heartburn after he reads my latest post over there.
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by CapsFan2020 on Dec 1, 2009 2:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You don’t bother me in the slightest. In fact I enjoy your witty banter.
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by BReynolds on Dec 1, 2009 3:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You have a funny way of showing enjoyment.
(FWIW I think this hit should be suspended but that doesn’t change my take on the Kaleta hit, etc. No point rehashing all that.)
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by Fehr and Balanced on Dec 1, 2009 4:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
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If you've read this far...seek help.
by ThePeerless on Dec 1, 2009 11:48 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
And deportation back to that commie country he’s from.
A man gotta have a code
by CP2Devil on Dec 1, 2009 11:53 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
2 and maybe the team should sit him one extra.
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by Your Nation's Capital on Dec 1, 2009 11:49 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
4, since the more likely guesses (2 and 3) are already taken
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by renhoak on Dec 1, 2009 11:52 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
2. He’s never been suspended for a hit before, so anything more than 3 would be outrageous for a hit with no malicious intent.
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by J.P. on Dec 1, 2009 11:56 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
They’re taking calls about this on NHL Home Ice right now. Callers are looking for 5 games minimum.. goofy as hell.
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by jordanDC on Dec 1, 2009 11:58 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, but people who call in sports radio of any sort tend not to be:
a) the brightest bulbs
b) representative of sports fans at large.
by RedBirdie on Dec 1, 2009 12:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed.
One guy made a great case for a short suspension, though. Ovie makes more money than anybody in the league, so him missing 1 game is equivalent to some donk missing 4 or 5. Interesting way to look at it.
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by jordanDC on Dec 1, 2009 12:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Which is precisely why I never listen to sports talk radio…. or read the comments on most websites.
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by Laich It Or Lump It on Dec 1, 2009 12:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
So let’s see, Ovechkin knocks a guy out for three shifts and Laroque knocks a guy out for a month and they both should get the same number of games. OK, that makes perfect sense.
by b.orr4 on Dec 1, 2009 1:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
This is precisely the wrong way of looking at things. NO ONE should be arguing for a suspension or a lack of one based on the injuries suffered on the play. Ever.
by sixsevenfiftysix on Dec 1, 2009 1:22 PM EST up reply actions 11 recs
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by David M. Getz on Dec 1, 2009 1:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
How about “Laraque stuck his leg out. Ovechkin was out of control, but was not trying to hit leg-first”
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Dec 1, 2009 1:41 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
This.
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by Fehr and Balanced on Dec 1, 2009 3:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
NO ONE should be arguing for a suspension or a lack of one based on the injuries suffered on the play.
Not to say you’re putting words in my mouth (although you are), but that is partly how the NHL determines its lengths of suspensions. I’m not “arguing” for it to be based on that criteria, I’m just saying that the NHL needs to be consistent when it hands out its suspensions. Laroque got five games partly based on the fact that he caused a serious injury. Gleason was not injured.
by b.orr4 on Dec 1, 2009 2:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I actually like this logic. Does this mean OV will get a “suspension credit” considering he was the one hurt?
by Garyland1177 on Dec 1, 2009 2:29 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Yes. He should be allowed to play extra games. Or for the next two games in which he plays, all of his goals count double.
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by Scott in Shaw on Dec 1, 2009 4:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That’s odd, on the War Room this morning almost everybody who called in was saying 1-3 games and they were downright reasonable in talking about the hit.
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by Killer_Carlson on Dec 1, 2009 4:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I asked someone before but I probably didn’t follow up to read an answer – did we determine if suspensions can run concurrent with injuries, or no?
I think Briere was going to miss games with groin/flu on his recent suspension, but that’s a bit different.
by TFG on Dec 1, 2009 12:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed, 2 is what it should be. I know you have to suspend him for the misconducts, but seeing as how one was an indisputably horrible call and the other was borderline (as a major + game misconduct), that should factor in along with his record and lack of intent.
I wouldn’t be shocked by anything as high as 5, though.
by grapejoos on Dec 1, 2009 12:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Technically
They don’t have to suspend him for the two misconducts, since the two penalties were different in nature (i.e., not both boarding penalties).
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by D'ohboy on Dec 1, 2009 12:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Fair, I meant more in a PR/Campbell-logic sort of way.
by grapejoos on Dec 1, 2009 12:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Using the words logic and Campbell in the same sentence ought to be banned. . . even if you’re just discussing Brian Campbell’s ridiculous contract.
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by D'ohboy on Dec 1, 2009 12:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
1.
Second misconduct. He’s got to get something. He’s a star, so gets the minimum.
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by fat_daddyo on Dec 1, 2009 12:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
However long Gleason is injured. Ohh, wait…
by hockeyman33 on Dec 1, 2009 3:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Look at those sexy eyes. It’s as if he’s saying “i will crush you like bug.” So hot.
by Kolzilla on Dec 1, 2009 11:47 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
AWESOME.
I’m sure there are many willing to be a volunteer nurse.
by RedBirdie on Dec 1, 2009 11:49 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
what’s he eating there? big ol’ tin of russian caviar?
that knee looks fishy.
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by renhoak on Dec 1, 2009 11:50 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I have two:
Are we sure he didn’t blow the knee out carrying all those watches?
or:
#needsmorenachos
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by Bald Pollack on Dec 1, 2009 11:52 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
ahhh, this injury – no bike!
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by renhoak on Dec 1, 2009 11:54 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
paul pierce? seriously, he couldn’t put ANY weight on it?
by Natty Bumppo on Dec 1, 2009 11:49 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
ha. thought about that too.
If I were in his position I wouldn’t have put any weight on it either.
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by bigonetimer on Dec 1, 2009 12:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Huh? I’m confused. What is the Pierce reference to?
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by Fehr and Balanced on Dec 1, 2009 3:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Basketball
It’s best ignored. ;)
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by D'ohboy on Dec 1, 2009 3:24 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Exactly
I know who he is but that’s all.
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by Fehr and Balanced on Dec 1, 2009 3:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Someone with a better memory will probably correct me, but I believe that a couple of years ago, Pierce was carried off the court during a playoff game, only to return later. I think Natty’s suggesting that he was overplaying it for dramatic effect.
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by D'ohboy on Dec 1, 2009 3:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
whoa whoa there.
you’ve got it right that pierce was carried off the court by teammates. he was literally in tears and you could tell from his face that he thought his playoffs were over (that was the year they went on to win the championship).
but i wasn’t implying that AO was playing up his injury. there was no real purpose for either of those guys to overplay their injuries (for pierce, he missed about a quarter of action of one of the year’s biggest games). i think with pierce the general concensus is that he had a lot of pain in his knee and just freaked out. that he assumed the worst himself and sort of panicked. only to be told by doctors in the locker room that he was okay, after which he actually tested his knee, and then came back out and finished the game. i wasn’t really trying to provide commentary at all, except to say that the events are similar (carried off by teammates without putting any weight on the leg, then skating the next day). but it could be suggested that AO’s reaction last night was similar to pierce’s….that maybe he could’ve put pressure on the leg, but had lost his senses to a certain extent?
by Natty Bumppo on Dec 1, 2009 4:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I hope so. Either way he should sit a while and heal it.
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by Fehr and Balanced on Dec 1, 2009 4:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think it’s an entirely reasonable potential explanation if he’s not hurt that bad. Athletes must fear serious knee injuries like no other, and they must get freaked when they think they just suffered one. I’m kind of amazed if that’s all it was with Ovie, since he so rarely shows any pain, but I could see him getting freaked out in the moment and being overly cautious.
by grapejoos on Dec 1, 2009 4:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
And NBA players are sissies.
And yeah, AO showing that much pain was what convinced me that this isn’t some little thing. He fights through pain constantly and for him to not even get up to try to make it to the bench is pretty bad.
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by Fehr and Balanced on Dec 1, 2009 4:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
NBA players are sissies compared to hockey players, but I don’t begrudge Pierce one bit. I thought his knee was done too when that happened.
Hey, at least they’re not baseball players.
by grapejoos on Dec 1, 2009 4:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
But at least there’s no crying in baseball.
But seriously, after people wanted to frikkin’ canonize Schilling for pitching with a bloody sock, I wanted to point out that Joe Sakic won the Conn Smythe with a dislocated shoulder, or any number of other stories that we as hockey fans take for granted.
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by D'ohboy on Dec 1, 2009 4:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
no, that tendon thing was gruesome. Just nasty.
Sean Casey partially tore is calf in the world series (or maybe it was the ALCS) and sucked it up an continued to play. It was brutal.
by RedBirdie on Dec 1, 2009 4:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m not saying Schilling’s accomplishment was meaningless, but the way that people fawned over him, you’d think he’d turned water into 95 octane unleaded.
What Schilling did is commonplace in the NHL, or even in the NFL.
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by D'ohboy on Dec 1, 2009 4:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I dunno about that. My understanding is that Schilling had a torn tendon sheath and the doctors basically sewed everything together so he could still move it the way he needed and then sent him out there with the wound fresh. Plus it was his right ankle, the one he was pushing off of all game. That’s pretty damn badass, no matter who you are.
I’d rather play a hockey game with a dislocated shoulder than go through that.
by David M. Getz on Dec 1, 2009 4:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
the procedure had never been done before. Infamously, the team doc tried it on a cadaver first, told Schilling, “well, this might work, but I haven’t a clue. In fact, it could make it worse!” and Schilling decided he didn’t come all the way to Boston to watch the ALCS (against the Yankees, no less) from the bench. They ended up sewing the tendon, which was sort of just flapping around, to another one, and stitching the sheath to that. That’s just insane.
by RedBirdie on Dec 1, 2009 4:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Bob Baun
From Wikipedia:
“Baun is remembered for his performance in game six of the 1963–64 NHL season Stanley Cup finals against the Detroit Red Wings. On April 23, 1964, having broken his ankle earlier in the game, he returned in overtime and scored the game winning goal. The Leafs won the next game 4–0 to win the best of seven series, and secure their third consecutive league championship.”
Skating. On a broken ankle. In old-ass unsupportive leather skates. This sort of thing is commonplace in hockey. I’m not trying to say that what Schilling did isn’t ballsy, or courageous, or whatever, I’m merely trying to point out that it wouldn’t be considered out of the ordinary for a hockey player…
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by D'ohboy on Dec 1, 2009 5:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Donovan McNabb threw four touchdowns on a broken ankle.
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by Scott in Shaw on Dec 1, 2009 5:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Rog – as I pointed out above, this sort of behavior is common in the NHL and NFL, not so much in MLB or NBA.
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by D'ohboy on Dec 1, 2009 5:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Shamo played the Flyers in a playoff series with a broken jaw. No protection.
Forsberg busted his spleen and finished game 7.
Cujo got kicked in the face, took stitches, returned to play.
Doug Gilmour had his feet shaved down so they could fit in his skates and continued playing before heeling.
Or we could just look at how many players have surgery right after the playoffs end.
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by Fehr and Balanced on Dec 1, 2009 5:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Modano played in the finals with a broken wrist in a cast. That’s another.
NFL and NHL players are tough as hell. MLB players go on the DL from having bad dreams and falling out of their hot tubs.
by grapejoos on Dec 1, 2009 5:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I blogged with a hangnail.
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by J.P. on Dec 1, 2009 8:20 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
You’re so brave. I nominate J.P. as the Caps’ rep for the Masterton Trophy!
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by Steckel Me Elmo on Dec 1, 2009 8:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He’ll never win. Other hockey bloggers around the internet couragously proceed despite serious disabilities, like a failure to understand the difference between causation and correlation…
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Dec 1, 2009 10:39 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Nice. Unfortunately, that is one of the least serious problems for many hockey bloggers.
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by Killer_Carlson on Dec 1, 2009 11:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
DMG laughs.
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by Fehr and Balanced on Dec 1, 2009 8:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
There are different kinds of pain, though. Maybe this one just freaked Ovie out, or hurt in a way that was more uncomfortable.
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by D'ohboy on Dec 1, 2009 4:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
grapejoos, thanks, you said it better than me.
by Natty Bumppo on Dec 1, 2009 6:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry
Didn’t mean to put words in your mouth. Or anything else in your mouth, for that matter.
Otherwise, what you’re saying makes sense…
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by D'ohboy on Dec 1, 2009 4:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i should maybe add that i had the absolute worst possible scenario in my mind, due to the way AO came off the ice. so i was pretty happily dumbfounded that he’s been skating and the org is saying he’s day-to-day.
by Natty Bumppo on Dec 1, 2009 6:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree, I thought he was done through the Olympics.
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by Fehr and Balanced on Dec 1, 2009 6:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
1-10 games.
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by hotdog88gt on Dec 1, 2009 12:06 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Brave.
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by jordanDC on Dec 1, 2009 12:07 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Anywhere from 0 to 55 games is my guess.
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by Laich It Or Lump It on Dec 1, 2009 12:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
My Guesses
Injury: wicked bad Charley Horse. I’ve you’ve ever played hockey, chances are you’ve had one and know how it feels. They hurt like hell and can take a while to get over, but they’re not a structural issue. My alternative guess is that he has a badly bruised patella. I’ve also had this, they also hurt like hell and linger forever, but they typically don’t cause lasting structural damage.
Suspension: 1 game, 2 max. Despite his boarding major, Ovie doesn’t have the track record to warrant something longer. His rap sheet isn’t totally clean, but it’s a serious of minor misdemeanors, rather than a couple of felonies. Add in the star treatment and the other player’s apparent lack of injury and I doubt he gets more than two games.
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by D'ohboy on Dec 1, 2009 12:09 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
patella injuries are a bitch to get fully heeled, but can be worked through with lots of advil!
I’m wondering if its a mild sprain. The thinking these days is unless is a major sprain, to get walking on it and mobilizing it as quickly as possible. Even major sprains, they want you off crutches as soon as weight can be tolerated.
by RedBirdie on Dec 1, 2009 12:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think it’s a sore knee.
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by jordanDC on Dec 1, 2009 12:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You’re not exactly going out on a limb here, are you? :)
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by D'ohboy on Dec 1, 2009 12:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You’ve been reading the front pages at ESPN.com & NHL.com waaaay too much.
A man gotta have a code
by CP2Devil on Dec 1, 2009 12:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
???
Sorry, you lost me here.
Also, you missed my sweet limb-pun.
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by D'ohboy on Dec 1, 2009 12:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It was directed at your pun. Sounds like it was written by their headline writers.
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by CP2Devil on Dec 1, 2009 12:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Aha.
It was actually the first thing that came to mind, so the pun wasn’t originally intended. Then I realized what I was saying in context.
Originally, I was shocked by the possibility that ESPN.com had hockey on its website’s front page.
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by D'ohboy on Dec 1, 2009 12:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Originally, I was shocked by the possibility that ESPN.com had hockey on its website’s front page.
That part is completely understandable. :-)
A man gotta have a code
by CP2Devil on Dec 1, 2009 12:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Indeed, though I have seen Ovie’s mug on the front page of ESPN.com at least once this season. ESPN is definitely following hockey more, for whatever reason. I liked their hockey coverage back when they had it, but the network as a whole has gone downhill since then.
by grapejoos on Dec 1, 2009 2:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Per Tarik
Alex Ovechkin skated for about five minutes here wearing a red track suit this morning. The two-time MVP took some strides, handled the puck a couple of times, then left the ice prior to the team practice.
by kfjje on Dec 1, 2009 12:09 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Heart out of my shoes. Whew.
by Knee high to a duck on Dec 1, 2009 12:10 PM EST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
no matter what he isn’t plaing thursday against the panthers but no way is the league gonna keep him shelfed against the Flyers which is game 2 on Saturday
by CAPFan4Life on Dec 1, 2009 12:11 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
You’re right — the league won’t have to. He’s not going to be back from his injury by then.
by sixsevenfiftysix on Dec 1, 2009 1:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
no way is the league gonna keep him shelfed against the Flyers which is game 2 on Saturday
Even if he’s back by then, I think you’re very very wrong here.
by mch on Dec 1, 2009 1:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
How am i wrong?? Morally maybe, but under the NHL wheel of discipline there shouldn’t be one at all, because the victim ultimately wasn’t injured. Ovechkin has not been suspended before, even though he was just given a major for boarding and game misconduct the other night. He was only threatened suspension for i quote, “Another bad Boarding Penalty?” but this is kneeing Pen, which as Tarik pointed out, falls under a different category. Second, I think OV getting hurt more then the opposing player is more of a detriment than any Suspension handed out. Conclusions, At most a one game suspension or a team forced sit out for recovery/Point Making. In the end OV, who seems to be fine, will not play Thursady but i bet 98% he plays Saturday.
by CAPFan4Life on Dec 1, 2009 2:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Whatever the length of any suspension, I would bet the house on Ovie not playing in that game due to the injury. I just can’t imagine him being ready to play that quickly based on the hit, being helped off the ice, and gingerly skating earlier, nor can I imagine the Caps letting him play in what is sure to be a very physical game if he’s less than 100%.
by grapejoos on Dec 1, 2009 2:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He isn’t injured and he has said it is just burised. If he was at all injured no way does he skate this morning. Also i would a 50% Ovechkin is still better than half the NHL.
by CAPFan4Life on Dec 1, 2009 2:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He isn’t injured and he has said it is just burised.
Where?
If he was at all injured no way does he skate this morning.
Not necessarily. A strain or mild sprain could allow him to still skate. So could a bone bruise.
Also i would a 50% Ovechkin is still better than half the NHL.
True, but no Ovechkin for a few games and a 100% Ovechkin for the rest of the season is better than a 50% Ovechkin for a month.
by David M. Getz on Dec 1, 2009 3:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Just listened to audio from Ovie on XM. Ovie said “it’s not that sore” and then later said he can’t say anything about if he’ll miss games due to injury.
Whoops, should have said that the first time! Sorry, George!
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by jordanDC on Dec 1, 2009 3:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
its amazing George has any hair left at all.
by RedBirdie on Dec 1, 2009 3:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe Theo is teaching him his secrets?
by red army line on Dec 1, 2009 3:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t see those as mutually exclusive. A little sore could be too sore to play.
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by gfcaps fan on Dec 1, 2009 3:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Alex Semin agrees.
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by jordanDC on Dec 1, 2009 3:57 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Yes it could, but i think 4 days is more than enough, unlike semin, for the russian machine to come back from this hit if nothing was broken or torn.
by CAPFan4Life on Dec 1, 2009 4:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Tues – Thurs really only = 3 days. And if he can’t skate tomorrow, you don’t play him Thursday. Assuming of course that he’s allowed to play.
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by gfcaps fan on Dec 1, 2009 4:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
no way does he play thurday and how much is the team/Ovi over playing this injury to diminsh a lengthy suspension
by CAPFan4Life on Dec 1, 2009 4:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
How would overplaying the injury affect the suspension?
by David M. Getz on Dec 1, 2009 4:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
you don’t think that they would dole out a lesser suspension if they felt Ovi learned more from being the reciever of a injury on his own risky hit?
by CAPFan4Life on Dec 1, 2009 4:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
No, I don’t. The discipline will be based on what he did to endanger another player, not what he did to himself.
by David M. Getz on Dec 1, 2009 4:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
why would you suspend someone for injuring himself/team, Example the Vokun incedent
by CAPFan4Life on Dec 1, 2009 4:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
And according to Tarik, 2 game suspension.
by mch on Dec 1, 2009 4:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That’s not why he’s potentially facing discipline. He’s potentially facing discipline because he made a reckless play that endangered another player. The fact that he hurt himself is incidental.
by David M. Getz on Dec 1, 2009 4:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Don’t get me wrong – I’m not hoping for a suspension here. All I’m saying is that I think there will definitely be one.
by mch on Dec 1, 2009 3:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Mike Richards on the ice with AO having a gimp knee? Do not want.
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by Fehr and Balanced on Dec 1, 2009 3:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Speaking of this morning at Kettler, in just as important news looks like as suggested yesterday, Semin & Poti are going to be ready for Thursday. Also, nice to see Giroux knocked down to the 3rd line. I sure hope he makes it back soon to the top line…in Hershey.
A man gotta have a code
by CP2Devil on Dec 1, 2009 12:13 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
According to Tarik Tweets, Semin proclaimed he doesn’t expect to play Thursday.
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by jordanDC on Dec 1, 2009 12:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That sound is the value of his next contract dropping a little more.
by Kolzilla on Dec 1, 2009 12:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Psht. It’s Florida. Give him the extra days to get ready for Philly.,
"You're gonna eat that g**d**n Koho, three!"
by fat_daddyo on Dec 1, 2009 12:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I just saw the tweet. Makes no sense to me. Then why practice today on the 1st line. Sasha always finds a way to make me scratch my head even when not playing.
A man gotta have a code
by CP2Devil on Dec 1, 2009 12:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
oh Sasha… what are we to do with you? Or maybe he’s playing with the Florida media. and team.
any tweets on Poti’s Thursday status?
by Vinn on Dec 1, 2009 12:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He’s afraid of getting whacked by Ballard…
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by ThePeerless on Dec 1, 2009 12:22 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
He doesn’t play for the Panthers so why worry.
A man gotta have a code
by CP2Devil on Dec 1, 2009 12:27 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Wow, Tiger’s wife doesn’t look so good without her wig on
by Icebat on Dec 1, 2009 12:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He’s already anticipating his trending Sasha icon that JP will give him.
by J.B on Dec 1, 2009 12:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
A proclamation was made. Cool.
But Brawndo's got what plants crave. It's got electrolytes.
by hotdog88gt on Dec 1, 2009 12:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Latest tweet from Corey.
Boudreau on Semin not playing Thursday: “That’s news to me — I thought he looked pretty good out there today.”
A man gotta have a code
by CP2Devil on Dec 1, 2009 12:34 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Isn’t that the way it is with the Russians? The coach is always the last to know.
by b.orr4 on Dec 1, 2009 12:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
fell in zee blank
In Soviet Russia, Sasha ____________________
by ns on Dec 1, 2009 12:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
PLAYS YOU!
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by jordanDC on Dec 1, 2009 1:26 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Communicates better with coach?
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by Bald Pollack on Dec 1, 2009 1:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Nothing BB says to the media is intended or should be construed as an attempt to convey objective truth regarding the status of any player(s). Same goes for George McPhee. You just can’t put much stock in it.
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by fat_daddyo on Dec 1, 2009 12:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
“You wanna have dinner at your dad’s house Wednesday?”
by TFG on Dec 1, 2009 2:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
VS
Any news on the whole VS crap we have to go through to watch a game if have Direct TV and not cable. Just wondering?
by Dalehunter on Dec 1, 2009 12:35 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
VS is out with a middle body injury.
by DebCapsFan on Dec 1, 2009 12:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
castration, I think
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by renhoak on Dec 1, 2009 1:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
They should have said “with an upper body injury” just to keep with hockey tradition.
by boz on Dec 1, 2009 12:36 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Sanya doesn’t eggzackly sound contrite. Not that he should.
IS SOЯE KИEE AND TЯACK SUIT NOW
by Your Nation's Capital on Dec 1, 2009 12:59 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Isn’t it funny how we’re way more concerned about his rep than he is?
by b.orr4 on Dec 1, 2009 1:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
some time ago i decided not to give a damn what any other fans thought of Ovi. we KNOW what we have and so do they. there is not a single hockey fan out there that would not relish the idea of Ovi playing for their team.
by ns on Dec 1, 2009 1:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly
See also, Chris Pronger, Eric Lindros, Peter Forsberg, Corey Perry, etc.
And seriously, we are Caps fans. How do we have Dale Hunter in the rafters and yet still this overly sensitive attitude about what people think about AO?
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by Fehr and Balanced on Dec 1, 2009 3:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Because a lot of today’s Caps fans have no idea who Dale Hunter is.
by SeattleCapsFan on Dec 1, 2009 9:46 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
So sad
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by Fehr and Balanced on Dec 1, 2009 11:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He just hired IMG to do his marketing. Perhaps they should sit down with him for a little chat.
IS SOЯE KИEE AND TЯACK SUIT NOW
by Your Nation's Capital on Dec 1, 2009 1:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, man. This is straight from the Tiger Woods School of Incident Management.
"You're gonna eat that g**d**n Koho, three!"
by fat_daddyo on Dec 1, 2009 1:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Tiger.
:: shakes head ::
IS SOЯE KИEE AND TЯACK SUIT NOW
by Your Nation's Capital on Dec 1, 2009 1:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Frankly, I don’t even get why the Tiger Woods thing is a story. He had a single car accident. He admitted it was his fault. No alcohol was involved. Yeah, there’s plenty of questions one could ask, but I don’t even feel like it’s my business.
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by Whiter Mage on Dec 1, 2009 1:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree, who cares about golf anyway?
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by jordanDC on Dec 1, 2009 1:37 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Not really. It’s not like he’s hiding from the press.
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by gfcaps fan on Dec 1, 2009 1:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Professional hockey is replete with greater sinners
Dany Heatley springs to mind.
by S h a g g y on Dec 1, 2009 1:18 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
murder > knee bumping
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by jordanDC on Dec 1, 2009 1:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Perfect illustration of the earlier discussion about why manslaughter is still a crime and intent isn’t necessarily relevant.
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by CapitalCentre on Dec 1, 2009 2:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He murdered and tore up a knee!
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by Fehr and Balanced on Dec 1, 2009 3:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
(I actually don’t think it’s murder, just using the original term)
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by Fehr and Balanced on Dec 1, 2009 3:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
SBNation really needs an emoticon to show me biting my tongue.
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by Whiter Mage on Dec 1, 2009 1:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Let me have it
I can take it.
Ovie’s detractors talk about reckless – what action was more reckless, Ovie committing to his hit or Heatley driving in effect a race car (Ferrari) 88 mph through a subdivision?
Dont get me started.
by S h a g g y on Dec 1, 2009 1:43 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I'm going to let you have it.
A rec, that is.
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by jordanDC on Dec 1, 2009 1:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think he agrees with you more than you know. He’s trying hard not to go off on Heatley.
I'm trying to work out a deal with a club in Europe
by D'ohboy on Dec 1, 2009 1:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
There’s not a player in the NHL I hate more than Heatley. I don’t have the time before work to get involved in a conversation like this, though.
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by Whiter Mage on Dec 1, 2009 1:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i would actually like to eventually hear this at some point.
by ns on Dec 1, 2009 2:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Long and short of it, because I don’t like getting into it, is that I see Heatley as a murderer. I have met the Snyder family (Good friend of mine is friends with them, and played hockey with him in juniors, or at some point). If you ask me, Heatley belongs in jail. All he got was community service (A joke) and a busted knee. When he came back from injury, he was CHEERED. If Ovechkin got into a car with Tyler Sloan, and heaven forbid Sloan was killed, I wouldn’t want Ovechkin on my team. No amount of talent absolves someone of killing a man.
I didn’t like him before because he could have played for team Germany in international play, and didn’t. But that’s chump change. It’s an old argument, nothing I can say is going to change it, and I’d rather have Todd Bertuzzi, Sid Crosby, Avery, Briere, Hartnell, and Hell, Jagr back before I want Heatley on this team. I’d stop following the Caps if they picked him up. I’m that adamant against him.
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by Whiter Mage on Dec 1, 2009 6:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hartnell.
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by jordanDC on Dec 1, 2009 2:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I just hate his hair.
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by D'ohboy on Dec 1, 2009 3:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I hate his hair and his stupid face and his obsessions with Dave Steckel and Mike Green.
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by jordanDC on Dec 1, 2009 3:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
"I ’ate his face, I ’ate his fur, and I ’ate the mess he made on the floor."
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by D'ohboy on Dec 1, 2009 3:16 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
you know, I used to feel bad for Heatley. Imagine living with that weighing on you, every single day. To struck me as genuinely remorseful, and Snyder’s parents forgave him.
but lately, I think he’s a giant jackass.
by RedBirdie on Dec 1, 2009 1:34 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
And what about the people of Ottawa, who welcomed him and bought his jersey to help him “turn the page” and get on with his life? He took a giant crap on them, is what he did.
I loathe Heatley as a person.
by S h a g g y on Dec 1, 2009 1:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, that’s what really got me. I understand why he felt like he had to get out of Atlanta; I’d probably want out, too. But then to be such a diva in Ottawa for the past couple of seasons and what he pulled this summer………buddy, you’re lucky you’re not rotting in Cobb County jail right now.
by RedBirdie on Dec 1, 2009 2:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
On ice stuff <> Off ice stuff.
Brodeur fucked his sister in law. Corvo kicked a lady in the belly. We generally separate on ice and off ice character.
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by Fehr and Balanced on Dec 1, 2009 3:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Brodeur did what? Was it his brother’s wife, wife’s sister, or his sister’s partner? Cool, gotta look that one up.
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by renhoak on Dec 1, 2009 3:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Wife’s sister I believe.
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by Fehr and Balanced on Dec 1, 2009 3:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
And he’s now married to her, right?
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by gfcaps fan on Dec 1, 2009 3:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
oh jesus, how did I miss that little soap opera. Gotta make holidays witht he family rather stressful, no?
by RedBirdie on Dec 1, 2009 4:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It also gave Sean Avery some extra ammo when he was getting in Brodeur’s face during the 08 playoffs, I think.
Not that Avery would stoop to such low trash-talking or anything.
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by mercurialwinger on Dec 1, 2009 4:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Corvo’s a dick on the ice too (though he didn’t deserve his injury). Adultery is whatever, happens all the time, but sucks. But what Heatley did transcends all of that. (Yeah, F&B, I think we’ve had this conversation before)
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by Whiter Mage on Dec 1, 2009 6:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Right, and I’m not trying to determine a true pecking order. I’m just saying that because we love them on the ice doesn’t mean we have to endorse their behavior off ice.
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by Fehr and Balanced on Dec 1, 2009 6:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m late to this because I was stuck in a class all morning. Thank goodness for text messaging (got info from my daughter as available)!
Seems to me the appropriate punishment is one to two games. Of course, under the NHL wheel of discipline, there shouldn’t be one at all, because the victim ultimately wasn’t injured at all. But it would make sense to sit him if for no other reason than to make him think a little. Then again, I read his comments where he’s not going to change the way he plays. Well, he’d better, just a little, or the next time the knee injury might not be so minor.
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by gfcaps fan on Dec 1, 2009 1:33 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
1) Hopefully this incident(and the previous one last month) wake Ovechkin up to the fact that he’s not th super human player he apparently believes he is. He needs to play more in control. As such a suspension of 2 games or so might be a good thing.
2) Sure still be aggressive, but have some restraint and be cognizant that his team needs him to stay healthy. Else his career will follow other great players who’s longevity was cut short by injury
3) Agree with earlier posters that its entirely possible the team is remaining coy about Ovechkin’s ‘injury status’ until the discipline is determined. If he was going to miss a game anyway they’d prefer that go toward the inevitable 2-3 game suspension that he’s likely to get.
4) If they said he’s going to miss a week then the suspension wouldn’t theoretically start until he’s medically cleared to play.
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by Fauxrumors on Dec 1, 2009 2:22 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I thought the suspension would only not count if he was on the IR. If they avoided putting him on the IR until after his suspension was served, then his medical clearance has nothing to do with it, correct?
by renstar on Dec 1, 2009 2:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He just needs to learn that he’s not invincible. Going for these big hits, flying around the city at triple digit speeds, and almost decapitating teammates on golf carts is gonna catch up with him eventually, and possibly in horrific fashion.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Dec 1, 2009 2:27 PM EST up reply actions 8 recs
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by red army line on Dec 1, 2009 3:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Totally agree, but let’s remember, the dude’s 24. Perceived self-invincibility is par for the course for most guys of that age.
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by D'ohboy on Dec 1, 2009 3:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
24, makes millions a year, popular across multiple continents….I’d think I’m pretty invincible, too.
by RedBirdie on Dec 1, 2009 3:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, the invincibility thing applies to most young players. That’s why finding those with a maturity at such a young age is so great. Richards I would say, Toews, Crosby more recently, etc.
by red army line on Dec 1, 2009 3:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Conspicuously absent: Kane
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by jordanDC on Dec 1, 2009 3:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Toews on the ice maybe. But off the ice — has “The Twenty Cent Affair” been forgotten so quickly?
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Dec 1, 2009 3:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You’re thinking of Kane, methinks.
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by D'ohboy on Dec 1, 2009 3:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Never mind
Hey JP, where’s that “delete asinine comment” button?
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Dec 1, 2009 3:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ask Theo60.
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by Bald Pollack on Dec 1, 2009 3:41 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
In other news, Corvo out for 2-3 months. The hits keep on coming for the Canes.
Ya freaking grasshopper!
by Steck It Out on Dec 1, 2009 2:30 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
They are totally hapless. I think we play them something like five more times too, which is nice.
by Kolzilla on Dec 1, 2009 2:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Next time they play Carolina (Dec. 11th), I’d bet there are going to be some fireworks. You know Gleason will go after Ovechkin every chance he gets and Ruutu and Walker (if he’s healthy) and Ward are not above using their sticks. A call-up or two from Hershey might be in order for that game.
by b.orr4 on Dec 1, 2009 2:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Is Carolina actually going to try and play hockey that game, or just take runs at the Caps all night?
by RedBirdie on Dec 1, 2009 2:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Well they most likely can’t make the playoffs, so i would take the second option.
by CAPFan4Life on Dec 1, 2009 2:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The latter is my guess, and (if he’s playing) Ovechkin will be gunning just as hard for them too.
Funny, I grabbed tickets for this game a few days ago figuring it would be a snoozer.
by TFG on Dec 1, 2009 3:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah we may even see Erskine shove somebody. Could get real ugly.
by Kolzilla on Dec 1, 2009 3:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Time for some Sugar?
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Dec 1, 2009 3:30 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
This developement, along with the Ballard shinanegans from last night and AO’s incident, made last night a very very interesting Southeast Div. night. I think our reputation took a few steps back.
Caps 'n Bears
by Bongos on Dec 1, 2009 3:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
the Southeast division: home of bizarre injuries!
by RedBirdie on Dec 1, 2009 3:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I dunno, I think Johnson’s golf cart injury trumps all of our collective weirdness.
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by jordanDC on Dec 1, 2009 3:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
as someone who has flipped a golf cart this year, I now understand the dangers and utter stupidity of this. i understood before, but…meh. learning…
now i can’t even make fun of Johnson. lame.
by ns on Dec 1, 2009 3:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
eh… a defenseman cracking his keeper in the mask in frustration? i think that has to trump anything and everything. it’s comical, tragic, and horrifying.
Caps 'n Bears
by Bongos on Dec 1, 2009 3:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
ok, I will give it to the SE. I just remembered the Lightning player who had his wrist tendon severed by a falling skate in the locker room.
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by jordanDC on Dec 1, 2009 3:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
didn’t we also break an injured goalie’s jaw while he was on the bench last week? granted it wasn’t an SE player… but we did it!
Caps 'n Bears
by Bongos on Dec 1, 2009 3:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Another good pull. Ok, I think it’s official now.
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by jordanDC on Dec 1, 2009 3:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I kind of understood how he could have swung his stick in anger and mistakenly hit his keeper. What really got me is that after he hit Vokoun and saw him crumple to the ice, he swung his stick AGAIN unitl it broke and then skated away.
by b.orr4 on Dec 1, 2009 3:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Tenacious little bastard.
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by jordanDC on Dec 1, 2009 3:35 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
He swung it with one hand and it snapped. Why is that bad? He already wanted to break his stick, right? What about hitting your goalie makes you want to break the stick less? He would only be more pissed.
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by Fehr and Balanced on Dec 1, 2009 3:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
“Oh, he can get in the way of my stick, but he lets pucks by ALL DAY!”
by hockeyman33 on Dec 1, 2009 4:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think the point is that he completely ignored the fact that his goalie was writhing in pain after he took tee-ball practice on his dome.
Of all our iniquities ignorance may be the worst
by Killer_Carlson on Dec 1, 2009 4:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh
Didn’t realize Ballard was a doctor. His head clearly wasn’t in the right place, I don’t see how finishing the job makes it any worse. My parents taught me not to be a quitter.
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by Fehr and Balanced on Dec 1, 2009 4:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
And that you can accomplish anything you set your mind to.
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by jordanDC on Dec 1, 2009 4:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I have now gotten 2 BSH blogfathers to take my side against one of their own. I’ll take that as an accomplishment.
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by Fehr and Balanced on Dec 1, 2009 4:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
JP needs to start linking your profile page in the “What We’re Reading” column, so that we can keep track of your SBN journeys.
Now back to Canes Country to see what you say back to hockeymomof2….
by Cluster on Dec 1, 2009 6:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
LOL. She’s not the one you should be watching. They’ve got a feisty fella taking exception. I haven’t even gotten bad yet.
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by Fehr and Balanced on Dec 1, 2009 6:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The problem isn’t finishing the job. The problem is skating away like nothing happened. I don’t give two shits about him breaking the stick, but I did find it odd that he seemed to show absolutely no concern for Vokoun.
You don’t need to be a doctor to realize your goalie is hurt when he is writhing in pain after you just two handed him in the head.
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by Killer_Carlson on Dec 1, 2009 7:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t know what you wanted him to do. To me he looked like a dude that was pissed and in a little shock and trying to hold it together. He walked down the runway to the locker room a couple times, presumably to show his emotions off camera. I have a hard time thinking he didn’t feel bad or understand what happened. You’ve never messed up and then just wanted to ignore it for a minute?
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by Fehr and Balanced on Dec 1, 2009 8:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t really care what he did and didn’t see where he went after he left the net. I was just agreeing that it was odd to see a player skate away from a fallen teammate like that.
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by Killer_Carlson on Dec 1, 2009 9:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Given that people have oft discussed Ballard in the same tones as Brooks Laich (i.e., “has future captain written all over him”), I think I’m willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. This isn’t exactly Jesse Boulerice we’re talking about here.
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by D'ohboy on Dec 1, 2009 10:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
No, I definitely am not trying to tear down the guy. I like Ballard a lot.
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by Killer_Carlson on Dec 1, 2009 10:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
No You Hate Him
It’s obvious. You can’t just say “I like him a lot” after trashing him for this whole thread. You obviously have something personal against him, and probably want him seriously injured.
Go Flyers.
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by Fehr and Balanced on Dec 1, 2009 11:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m a huge fan of Ballard, but that guy is a classless jerk who deserves to be drawn and quartered. Serially.
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by Killer_Carlson on Dec 1, 2009 11:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Brian Burke loves his truculence.
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by Fehr and Balanced on Dec 2, 2009 12:06 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
A shot of him before he went into the locker room had a brilliant close up of him looking like he was about to be sick to his stomach. I think the second swing happened before he realized what he’d actually hit with the first swing.
by SeattleCapsFan on Dec 1, 2009 9:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I imagine he didn’t realize what happened until afterwards. His head’s gotta be messed up today.
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by gfcaps fan on Dec 1, 2009 4:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
We know Vokoun’s is!
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by jordanDC on Dec 1, 2009 4:02 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
It was Erik Johnson who messed up his knee getting out of a golf cart.
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by Killer_Carlson on Dec 1, 2009 4:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I know. I was saying the SE division shouldn’t get the weird injury crown due to that fact.
I have since reconsidered.
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by jordanDC on Dec 1, 2009 4:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
D’oh, reading fail. I for some reason read your post as saying Jack Johnson’s injury.
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by Killer_Carlson on Dec 1, 2009 4:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Man, I’ve been trying hard to stay away from JJ. If Red Army Line wants to see me kick someone while they’re down…
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by Fehr and Balanced on Dec 1, 2009 4:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I saw his +/- today.. holy hell, how is he doing that poorly on that team?
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by jordanDC on Dec 1, 2009 4:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
My fantasy team wants to know this as well. But he’s getting some points and ~23:30 of ice, with PP time and shots. Not complaining too much.
by Knee high to a duck on Dec 1, 2009 5:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
OV interview
Watch OV’s interview about the hit on washcaps.com. I spy 92
by Garyland1177 on Dec 1, 2009 3:42 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
With the Caps activley trying to send him to Russia, (are they really still trying?) I doubt they throw him in a game.
by hockeyman33 on Dec 1, 2009 4:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I know I just find it interesting he still has his gear and locker at Kettler
by Garyland1177 on Dec 1, 2009 4:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
“Mike, come to Kettler and pick up your stuff.”
Nylander: Alright, I’ll come by next week. Maybe. I’ll have to weigh my options.
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by jordanDC on Dec 1, 2009 4:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Well, he keeps going over there, but he can never find a parking space at Kettler and so he just has to circle the parking lot for a while… and then drive home.
"You punch him, he punches you, and you hope you get the best of it." - Matt Bradley
by mercurialwinger on Dec 1, 2009 5:00 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
He gets stuck on the beltway for days at a time.
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by jordanDC on Dec 1, 2009 5:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He’s been skating there on his own for some time. He’s still a Cap, after all.
"Let the rest be scared of us." - Emo Bunny Sasha Semin
by Scott in Shaw on Dec 1, 2009 5:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He’s been skating away from the team in Rockville, I think.
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by jordanDC on Dec 1, 2009 7:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That too.
"Let the rest be scared of us." - Emo Bunny Sasha Semin
by Scott in Shaw on Dec 2, 2009 1:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
sounds right. at least he won’t rush to get back for those two games.
by hockeyman33 on Dec 1, 2009 4:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I’ll take it. Anything over 3 would have bothered me.
by mch on Dec 1, 2009 4:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Semin better get himself healed already.
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by jordanDC on Dec 1, 2009 4:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Sounds right. Not overdone; maybe he gets a message.
"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."
by gfcaps fan on Dec 1, 2009 4:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If he’s skating today, even a little bit, he won’t be in IR for those two suspended games, and will get them done with while he’s healing.
FUGGEDDABOUDDIT!
by DrinkingPartner on Dec 1, 2009 4:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It’s a good thing. Forces him not to rush back and gives all the haters their pund of flesh.
by b.orr4 on Dec 1, 2009 4:13 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
The is probably the best any of us could have hoped for
After watching OV get booed, being helped off the ice and realizing he received a miscoduct for his hit I am sure a lot of us felt sick. But when it is all said and done the fact that there is a good chance he plays after his suspension is up is almost miraculous.
On the other hand the fact that he did not comment on whether he got an MRI or not makes me worry
by Garyland1177 on Dec 1, 2009 4:43 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
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