Capital Ups and Downs: Week 6
by J.P. on Nov 9, 2009 11:00 AM EST
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Our weekly look at individual Washington Capitals' ups and downs:
| Goalies | Trend | Notes |
| Jose Theodore | ▲ | A strong performance on Friday night in Sunrise earned him Saturday's start in which he looked understandably less sharp. Still, a 2-0-0/2.51/.912 week keeps his hold on the #1 spot firm. |
| Semyon Varlamov | - | To the untrained eye, he looked pretty good in Jersey. But Bruce Boudreau didn't see it that way (calling two of the three goals allowed "iffy"), so Varly stays in Chez Bow Wow and doesn't get a start against a bad team in a back-to-backs when the #1 guy has a recent history of back spasms. |
| Defensemen | ||
| John Erskine | ▲ | Shaking off the rust after missing nearly a month, has a plus-five rating over his last four games. |
| Mike Green | - | Had his nine-game scoring streak snapped in Jersey, then was injured early in Florida. Get well soon, GreenLife52. |
| Milan Jurcina | - | Ugly minus-four on Saturday night (though his play wasn't as bad as that would seem to indicate), has still yet to find the back of the net this season and is pointless and averaging just one shot per game in his last ten. |
| Shaone Morrisonn | ▼ | Didn't register a single shot last week... except for the boarding late in Friday night's game. |
| Brian Pothier | ▲ | Responded to Wednesday's healthy scratch with a goal, three assists and a plus-six rating over the next two games (which included loads of PP time with Green out). |
| Tom Poti | - | An assist and a plus-three rating in Saturday's stat-padder, but wasn't credited with a shot on goal all week. |
| Jeff Schultz | - | Injured on Friday night, missed on Saturday. |
| Swingman | ||
| Tyler Sloan | ▲ | Versatility earns him his own position on this list. Had a pair of goals as a forward and played well when shifted back to D on Friday, but struggled on the blueline Saturday. |
| Forwards | ||
| Nicklas Backstrom | - | Seemed to get his groove back once paired with Fleischmann and Knuble, ended the week with three helpers, a plus-three rating and a 56.3% faceoff win rate. |
| Matt Bradley | - | A beautiful pass to set up Laing's goal (and some wrestling) on Saturday night highlight his week. |
| Chris Clark | ▲ | Helpers in each of the week's three games and a fight in Jersey. Good stuff, Cap'n. |
| Eric Fehr | - | Finally got back in the lineup Saturday and produced an assist in limited ice time. |
| Tomas Fleischmann | ▲ | Three goals, one assist and a plus-four rating for the week and five goals and seven points in his last five games overall. We are all, for the moment, seeing Flash as Gabby has always seen him. |
| Boyd Gordon | - | Still hurt (and the PK still misses him). His games played by season over the last three campaigns: 71, 67, 63. Expect 59 this year? |
| Mike Knuble | ▲ | Two goals, three assists and a plus-four rating over the weekend is how a veteran rebounds from a couple of bad games in a row. |
| Brooks Laich | ▲ | 18 points in 17 games on the season, including four last week. Laich also hasn't taken a penalty in his last nine games and has just two minors on the campaign. |
| Quintin Laing | - | Had one more goal than and the same number of shots as Alex Semin last week. Another interesting Q stat: he's been credited with fewer blocked shots on the year than Knuble or Backstrom. |
| Brendan Morrison | ▲ | Called out by his coach for a bad penalty in Jersey, responds with two goals on Friday. |
| Michael Nylander | - | Has agreed to be put on waivers, still would have to agree to any loan to another league (KHL, AHL, etc.), but it's another step closer to what everyone wants. |
| Alex Ovechkin | - | Of the countless AO vids on YouTube, this has to be just about my least favorite. It's gonna be a long |
| Mathieu Perreault | ▲ | A burst of energy who has made Chris Clark and Tyler Sloan look like serviceable NHL wingers, which is no small accomplishment. |
| Alexander Semin | ▼▼ | One down arrow wasn't enough to capture the disappointment of what Semin is doing with his opportunity to be the team's top scoring threat. No points and as nearly many offensive-zone minor penalties (five) as shots on goal (six) for the week. Brutal. |
| David Steckel | ▼ | The only Caps forward still looking for his first goal of the season (minimum seven games played), Steckel was point-less on the week and was on the ice for all three power play goals the Caps surrendered in the three games. He did win 62.5% of his draws overall, however. |
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Go Perreault, etc.
Void Boyd! Go with Perreault!
by jordanDC on Nov 9, 2009 11:09 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
C’mon JP, tell us what you really think of Semin’s performance :)
BTW, love the new category of ‘Swingman’.
"I tried to capture the spirit of the thing"
by tuvanhillbilly on Nov 9, 2009 11:16 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I think we’d all agree that Semin is a far better player than he demonstrated last week and further that he was awful, overall, in those three games. Maybe the second red arrow is a bit much, but only issued because of how great Semin can be. I expect him to slay the Isles, Wild and Devils single-handedly this week.
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by J.P. on Nov 9, 2009 11:19 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
St. Semin and the Island Dragon?
Make no little plans; they have no magic to stir men's blood...Make big plans, aim high in hope and work. - Daniel H. Burnham
Fan Clubs: Sloan, Schultz
by gotsparkly on Nov 9, 2009 11:22 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
When do we finally play CAR? That’s the magic tonic for Semin.
If consequences dictate the course of action, then it doesn't matter what's right, it's only wrong if you get caught. If consequences dictate the course of action, then I should play God...
by Fehr and Balanced on Nov 9, 2009 11:27 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe Sasha needs some more training at a hockey Semin-ary?
Ron and Fez 11 to 3
by YvonLabresMoustache on Nov 9, 2009 11:44 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
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by winterion on Nov 9, 2009 12:12 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Per Corey:
McPhee also said Alexander Semin was banged up on Friday night [Keith Ballard did nail him pretty good while he was widing up for a shot] and “toughed it out” on Saturday, but needed a little bit more rest than what he got yesterday.
So.
IS PЯACTICE ЯINK NOW
by Your Nation's Capital on Nov 9, 2009 2:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
So pardon Semin’s inconsistent play, he’s just frail and injury prone. :-)
Russian Machine very rarely breaks.
by macvechkin on Nov 9, 2009 2:57 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Drivin’ me nuts.
Void Boyd! Go with Perreault!
by jordanDC on Nov 9, 2009 2:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Pirate walks into a bar with a steering wheel hanging out of his fly.
Bartender: “You can’t be all that comfortable with that steering wheel hanging out of your fly?”
Pirate: “Yaaaar! It’s drivin’ me nuts!”
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by J.P. on Nov 9, 2009 3:06 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I hate veal. And I’m a lousy tipper.
IS PЯACTICE ЯINK NOW
by Your Nation's Capital on Nov 9, 2009 3:08 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
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Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Nov 9, 2009 10:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Chesnokov floated a tweet yesterday, asking why Semin hadn’t tried a wrister lately.
IS PЯACTICE ЯINK NOW
by Your Nation's Capital on Nov 9, 2009 3:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Anyone who says that a guy saves his best effort for a contract year has never seen Alexander Semin.
by Gin and Tonic on Nov 9, 2009 11:17 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Semin is another down-arrow away from the Tri-Force of Shame
by WolfPackof1 on Nov 9, 2009 11:19 AM EST reply actions 3 recs
rec'd!
and speaking of the triforce…
by Natty Bumppo on Nov 9, 2009 1:37 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
+1
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by winterion on Nov 9, 2009 1:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If Semin gets two down arrows, shouldnt M Perreault get two up? Just sayin
by MetalCap on Nov 9, 2009 11:20 AM EST reply actions 2 recs
No. Two arrows isn’t something you’ll see often. Like Haley’s Comet. Or Sasquatch. Or Tom Poti clearing a puck with authority on a PK. As good as Matty was, he wasn’t two-arrow good, imo.
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by J.P. on Nov 9, 2009 11:26 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
No, he was three green arrow good. He got his, Sloan’s and Clark’s.
If consequences dictate the course of action, then it doesn't matter what's right, it's only wrong if you get caught. If consequences dictate the course of action, then I should play God...
by Fehr and Balanced on Nov 9, 2009 11:28 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Fair enough.
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by J.P. on Nov 9, 2009 11:29 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
And a fraction of Pothier’s for the stolen assist.
"If you're gonna die after 24, might as well jump out at 23:59, no?"
by Laich It Or Lump It on Nov 9, 2009 11:30 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Just to play devil’s advocate, can you be certain the puck would have gotten to Clark without the tip?
/ducks
by gfcaps fan on Nov 9, 2009 11:51 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think this whole thing is getting more attention than it’s really worth.
Make no little plans; they have no magic to stir men's blood...Make big plans, aim high in hope and work. - Daniel H. Burnham
Fan Clubs: Sloan, Schultz
by gotsparkly on Nov 9, 2009 11:52 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You’re out of the club.
Void Boyd! Go with Perreault!
by jordanDC on Nov 9, 2009 11:53 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Was I ever in it?
Make no little plans; they have no magic to stir men's blood...Make big plans, aim high in hope and work. - Daniel H. Burnham
Fan Clubs: Sloan, Schultz
by gotsparkly on Nov 9, 2009 11:57 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Everybody’s doing it!
Void Boyd! Go with Perreault!
by jordanDC on Nov 9, 2009 11:58 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Outstanding argument for not doing it, all things considered.
Make no little plans; they have no magic to stir men's blood...Make big plans, aim high in hope and work. - Daniel H. Burnham
Fan Clubs: Sloan, Schultz
by gotsparkly on Nov 9, 2009 12:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, it’s just fun. And Perreault has looked pretty darn good.
by gfcaps fan on Nov 9, 2009 11:54 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh agreed, but … oh wait. We spent 1000 comments on Chris Bourque. Carry on :)
Make no little plans; they have no magic to stir men's blood...Make big plans, aim high in hope and work. - Daniel H. Burnham
Fan Clubs: Sloan, Schultz
by gotsparkly on Nov 9, 2009 11:58 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
1500, give or take. We’re slacking, now.
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by Your Nation's Capital on Nov 9, 2009 12:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Well, we had to devote some to wailing about Ovechkin!
Make no little plans; they have no magic to stir men's blood...Make big plans, aim high in hope and work. - Daniel H. Burnham
Fan Clubs: Sloan, Schultz
by gotsparkly on Nov 9, 2009 12:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Perreault’s goal celebration is top notch, TOP NOTCH!
But Brawndo's got what plants crave. It's got electrolytes.
by hotdog88gt on Nov 9, 2009 4:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Well, he’s Canadian. It just comes naturallement.
IS PЯACTICE ЯINK NOW
by Your Nation's Capital on Nov 9, 2009 4:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I was going to rec the reference, but then I had to flag the opinion, so it balances out.
"I'm just doing karate and trying to get females pregnant."
by Bald Pollack on Nov 9, 2009 6:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Erskine’s +5 surprises me. I haven’t paid close enough attention to him, but to those who have: luck or genuine contribution?
"If you're gonna die after 24, might as well jump out at 23:59, no?"
by Laich It Or Lump It on Nov 9, 2009 11:26 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
The latter, imo.
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by J.P. on Nov 9, 2009 11:26 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That’s good to hear then.
"If you're gonna die after 24, might as well jump out at 23:59, no?"
by Laich It Or Lump It on Nov 9, 2009 11:27 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think he’s been quietly effective.
Fight, you time-wasting figure skaters!
by boutros23 on Nov 9, 2009 11:27 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
And always has been, IMO.
But Brawndo's got what plants crave. It's got electrolytes.
by hotdog88gt on Nov 9, 2009 4:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
When he’s not playing like crap because he’s being asked to do things he’s not good at or he’s injured.
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Nov 9, 2009 10:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
When Erskine is rested and his already-marginal skating isn’t slowed by injury/exhaustion/whatevs, he’s effective. It’s when he’s not rested that he…..
by TylerG on Nov 9, 2009 11:28 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Sounds like a perfect 7 man for when we try to break Carlson and Alzner into the Caps lineup.
If consequences dictate the course of action, then it doesn't matter what's right, it's only wrong if you get caught. If consequences dictate the course of action, then I should play God...
by Fehr and Balanced on Nov 9, 2009 11:29 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The Hershey contingent were reporting that Alzner has trouble clearing the crease. Erskine might be a suitable pairing in that respect.
"If you're gonna die after 24, might as well jump out at 23:59, no?"
by Laich It Or Lump It on Nov 9, 2009 11:33 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
What I was getting at is that a 7D usually won’t play every night and some guys are better in that role than others (Erskine > Juice). But with Alzner and Carlson we’ll want them playing most days, but it’ll be nice to have a veteran that can step in when one of the rookies needs a night in the pressbox.
If consequences dictate the course of action, then it doesn't matter what's right, it's only wrong if you get caught. If consequences dictate the course of action, then I should play God...
by Fehr and Balanced on Nov 9, 2009 11:35 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Gotcha.
"If you're gonna die after 24, might as well jump out at 23:59, no?"
by Laich It Or Lump It on Nov 9, 2009 11:36 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
BTW, I don’t get tired of seeing photos of Perreault celebrating.
Fight, you time-wasting figure skaters!
by boutros23 on Nov 9, 2009 11:28 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Is it me or does he look as though he should have a beret and a cigarette hanging out of his mouth?
Make no little plans; they have no magic to stir men's blood...Make big plans, aim high in hope and work. - Daniel H. Burnham
Fan Clubs: Sloan, Schultz
by gotsparkly on Nov 9, 2009 11:29 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He is awfully francais.
Fight, you time-wasting figure skaters!
by boutros23 on Nov 9, 2009 11:30 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Does Perrault have a nickname, yet? Can we give him one, yet? I nominate “Pee Wee,” in the affectionate old-timey way, not the modern creepy sitting-alone-in-a-movie-theater way.
Mattieu “Pee Wee” Perreault.
If that’s not “masculine” enough I think “Pistol” works pretty well, too.
Okay, I’m done dredging up old, overused nicknames.
I don't care how you score goals. Pretty or ugly. The ballet or the bulldozer. However you do it, just do it. And make sure you do it more than the other guys.
by Holt Worth on Nov 9, 2009 11:50 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Don’t force nicknames, it’s shameful.
Void Boyd! Go with Perreault!
by jordanDC on Nov 9, 2009 11:53 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Agent Zero disagrees.
"If you're gonna die after 24, might as well jump out at 23:59, no?"
by Laich It Or Lump It on Nov 9, 2009 11:54 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Correct response.
"If you're gonna die after 24, might as well jump out at 23:59, no?"
by Laich It Or Lump It on Nov 9, 2009 11:55 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
What? I wait for everyone to just use a shortened version of his regular name, as is currently popular(and very lazy and lame)?
I don't care how you score goals. Pretty or ugly. The ballet or the bulldozer. However you do it, just do it. And make sure you do it more than the other guys.
by Holt Worth on Nov 9, 2009 11:57 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Let’s call him Dave Steckel and hope it gets him into 82 games a season.
Void Boyd! Go with Perreault!
by jordanDC on Nov 9, 2009 11:59 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Don’t you mean Stecks?
I don't care how you score goals. Pretty or ugly. The ballet or the bulldozer. However you do it, just do it. And make sure you do it more than the other guys.
by Holt Worth on Nov 9, 2009 12:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Perreault-y doesn’t have quite the same ring to it…
"If you're gonna die after 24, might as well jump out at 23:59, no?"
by Laich It Or Lump It on Nov 9, 2009 11:59 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Matty.
Void Boyd! Go with Perreault!
by jordanDC on Nov 9, 2009 12:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I know, just kidding.
"If you're gonna die after 24, might as well jump out at 23:59, no?"
by Laich It Or Lump It on Nov 9, 2009 12:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
how about this ? Perrault Noir? he’s like a smooth wine….
Rock the Red! Rock the White! Rock the Blue! Rock the Pens!
by RedskinFan4Life on Nov 9, 2009 7:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Anglicize him – Perry!
IS PЯESS BOX NOW
by Your Nation's Capital on Nov 9, 2009 12:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I actually like Perry, but it reminds me too much of Matthew Perry or someone who works for local public radio.
“He has RINGS on his FINGER.”
I don't care how you score goals. Pretty or ugly. The ballet or the bulldozer. However you do it, just do it. And make sure you do it more than the other guys.
by Holt Worth on Nov 9, 2009 12:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Le Petit Fromage
If you've read this far...seek help.
by ThePeerless on Nov 9, 2009 12:09 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Poutini?
IS PЯACTICE ЯINK NOW
by Your Nation's Capital on Nov 9, 2009 1:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I like “Rosey” and I think it fits, but its already been taken by Vladimir Ruzicka
Ron and Fez 11 to 3
by YvonLabresMoustache on Nov 9, 2009 2:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Nicknames have to be earned — see: Bongos.
Make no little plans; they have no magic to stir men's blood...Make big plans, aim high in hope and work. - Daniel H. Burnham
Fan Clubs: Sloan, Schultz
by gotsparkly on Nov 9, 2009 11:59 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Rec’d.
Void Boyd! Go with Perreault!
by jordanDC on Nov 9, 2009 12:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Cause that stuck so well.
I don't care how you score goals. Pretty or ugly. The ballet or the bulldozer. However you do it, just do it. And make sure you do it more than the other guys.
by Holt Worth on Nov 9, 2009 12:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Rec was for the earning part, not for the Bongo part.. just so everybody knows.
Void Boyd! Go with Perreault!
by jordanDC on Nov 9, 2009 12:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I nominate "Pee Wee"
No. Two red down arrows for that.
by Uncle C on Nov 9, 2009 11:58 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Baguette
One guy just drove his semi as a float. I guess semis are cool.
by zephyr on Nov 9, 2009 12:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That shortens to Bag – I’d be wary of that one. Maybe Sparkplug or similar, but I think it’s too early to give him one yet.
Make no little plans; they have no magic to stir men's blood...Make big plans, aim high in hope and work. - Daniel H. Burnham
Fan Clubs: Sloan, Schultz
by gotsparkly on Nov 9, 2009 12:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I said: “Say Hey,” Sparkplug.
…
“You’re not gonna do it, are you?”
If consequences dictate the course of action, then it doesn't matter what's right, it's only wrong if you get caught. If consequences dictate the course of action, then I should play God...
by Fehr and Balanced on Nov 9, 2009 12:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Wire reference?
"If you're gonna die after 24, might as well jump out at 23:59, no?"
by Laich It Or Lump It on Nov 9, 2009 12:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
No, Sealab 2021. Howlin’ Mad Murphy.
If consequences dictate the course of action, then it doesn't matter what's right, it's only wrong if you get caught. If consequences dictate the course of action, then I should play God...
by Fehr and Balanced on Nov 9, 2009 12:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That would have been my second guess.
"If you're gonna die after 24, might as well jump out at 23:59, no?"
by Laich It Or Lump It on Nov 9, 2009 12:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Mine was meant to be making fun of the whole idea. Nicknames are supposed to just come naturally…not be contrived like this.
One guy just drove his semi as a float. I guess semis are cool.
by zephyr on Nov 9, 2009 12:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Normally, yes, but the reason I started this whole fiasco was to avoid the “shortened name” nickname plague that’s currently wrapped it’s unimaginative hands around hockey(much the same way A-Rod, K-Rod, etc. have taken baseball by storm). It’s something my hockey watching buddies and I have noticed and vehemently resisted. To the point where Jiri Hudler became “Scuttles.” Why do we care? Because it’s one more little element of hockey becoming gentrified to become (unnecessarily) “relate-able” to a broader audience. Okay, now that I’ve used a socioeconomic term I’ll get off my soap box.
And just add that “sparkplug” is “bougie” in French.
I don't care how you score goals. Pretty or ugly. The ballet or the bulldozer. However you do it, just do it. And make sure you do it more than the other guys.
by Holt Worth on Nov 9, 2009 12:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Seems odd. “Bougie” translated literally is “candle”. I suppose they could use the same term, though.
Make no little plans; they have no magic to stir men's blood...Make big plans, aim high in hope and work. - Daniel H. Burnham
Fan Clubs: Sloan, Schultz
by gotsparkly on Nov 9, 2009 12:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Correct. It also means sparkplug. Just another word that’s used in multiple, loosely related ways. Like “book” and “light” in English.
I don't care how you score goals. Pretty or ugly. The ballet or the bulldozer. However you do it, just do it. And make sure you do it more than the other guys.
by Holt Worth on Nov 9, 2009 12:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You should check out this book called “Tropic of Hockey”
One guy just drove his semi as a float. I guess semis are cool.
by zephyr on Nov 9, 2009 12:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Nice suggestion. Will definitely pick it up.
I don't care how you score goals. Pretty or ugly. The ballet or the bulldozer. However you do it, just do it. And make sure you do it more than the other guys.
by Holt Worth on Nov 9, 2009 12:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
On behalf of Gump, Ace, Turk, the pocket Rocket, and Larry “Izzy” Goodenough: hear, hear(y)!
by redlineblue on Nov 9, 2009 1:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
sparky! haha.
"No Brooks Laich, no win. Know Brooks Laich, know win."
by kellobellow on Nov 9, 2009 3:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Laich also hasn’t taken a penalty in his last nine games
That’s going to cease being a positive stat regarding Laich very soon, if not already.
If consequences dictate the course of action, then it doesn't matter what's right, it's only wrong if you get caught. If consequences dictate the course of action, then I should play God...
by Fehr and Balanced on Nov 9, 2009 11:30 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Why is that? Not disagreeing, just curious as to the reasoning. Isn’t staying out of the box a good thing? Or is no penalties an indication of not being agressive enough (i.e. there should be some penalties taken somewhere along the line)?
by TJA on Nov 9, 2009 11:44 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I want Laich to start picking up PIMs five at a time. Maybe a couple roughs in there. Most of our top 6 is very finesse and not the kind to really stick up for themselves. If Laich is out on the top 2 lines I want him being the physical conscience of those lines and do a little more to keep opposing teams honest.
If consequences dictate the course of action, then it doesn't matter what's right, it's only wrong if you get caught. If consequences dictate the course of action, then I should play God...
by Fehr and Balanced on Nov 9, 2009 12:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Okay, that’s where I thought you might be going (didn’t want to assume), and I agree. I’m thinking that should apply to Knuble as well.
by TJA on Nov 9, 2009 12:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I cut Knuble a little slack because of his age. The old dog has seen his battles and I’d rather keep him in the lineup and slamming home garbage goals. If the situation calls for it I wouldn’t oppose him dropping the mitts, but I think Laich has more of an affirmative duty to go out seeking some skulls to bust.
If consequences dictate the course of action, then it doesn't matter what's right, it's only wrong if you get caught. If consequences dictate the course of action, then I should play God...
by Fehr and Balanced on Nov 9, 2009 12:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’d prefer old Knoobie not break a hip trying to throw a punch, myself.
by RedBirdie on Nov 9, 2009 5:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
“Here, Pops, slide over this way and let the kids take care of this…”
IS PЯACTICE ЯINK NOW
by Your Nation's Capital on Nov 9, 2009 5:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I mustache would do him some good, too.
I don't care how you score goals. Pretty or ugly. The ballet or the bulldozer. However you do it, just do it. And make sure you do it more than the other guys.
by Holt Worth on Nov 9, 2009 12:07 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Vehemently disagreeing. Laich does the dirty work, he just does it like a man, and an intelligent one at that.
Russian Machine very rarely breaks.
by macvechkin on Nov 9, 2009 12:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t know where “does it like a man” comes into play. I wasn’t suggesting otherwise. I would take issue with your assertion that he does the dirty work. He does some of the dirty work; I’d like to see him do all of the dirty work. Right now he’s cleaning the dishes, I’d like to see him take out the garbage too.
If consequences dictate the course of action, then it doesn't matter what's right, it's only wrong if you get caught. If consequences dictate the course of action, then I should play God...
by Fehr and Balanced on Nov 9, 2009 12:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
18 points in 17 games, leading the team in PPG ( and taking his punishment working around the net), and playing a complete game without being a source of boneheaded penalties? How much greedier can you get?
Russian Machine very rarely breaks.
by macvechkin on Nov 9, 2009 12:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Just a little. Drop the mitts and punch some faces when teams start taking liberties with our skill players.
If consequences dictate the course of action, then it doesn't matter what's right, it's only wrong if you get caught. If consequences dictate the course of action, then I should play God...
by Fehr and Balanced on Nov 9, 2009 12:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Amen
Because now I can justify browsing and commenting during the work day with the argument that I am promoting my business.
by Sombrero Guy on Nov 9, 2009 4:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
disagree with you there….if he’s racking up the points for the team, taking a penalty will do at least two things — 1) take his contributions off the ice, 2) give the other team a PP…
ok - three things -- 3rd being would make me very disappointed and throw something at the screen
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by RedskinFan4Life on Nov 9, 2009 7:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Fights don’t put you SH if you go about it smartly.
If consequences dictate the course of action, then it doesn't matter what's right, it's only wrong if you get caught. If consequences dictate the course of action, then I should play God...
by Fehr and Balanced on Nov 9, 2009 7:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I see where F & B is coming from though I think this version of Brooks Laich is more than good enough. Still holding out hope for a Brads-Steckel-Laich 3rd line, which might encourage Brooks to play with a little more nastiness.
by Kolzilla on Nov 9, 2009 1:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think Laich needs to stay top 6. And if Flash continues to produce: same.
Semin can take the vacation.
Russian Machine very rarely breaks.
by macvechkin on Nov 9, 2009 1:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I actually think the nastiness is more necessary on the top lines. That third line isn’t going to get pushed around, and isn’t carrying valuable cargo. The top lines are where we need some protection so that’s where you want the nastiness to come out.
If consequences dictate the course of action, then it doesn't matter what's right, it's only wrong if you get caught. If consequences dictate the course of action, then I should play God...
by Fehr and Balanced on Nov 9, 2009 1:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I just noticed that all of our top 6 forwards (who began the season on the roster) are in the league’s top 60 in points, fwiw. That sounds pretty good to me.
by mechanicsville on Nov 9, 2009 11:30 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Spot-on analysis, JP. I agree with every single word and every single arrow. Particularly with the two arrows and “Brutal”. Standout ‘Brutal’. Term-defining ‘Brutal’. Epic brutality. Ugh.
by Uncle C on Nov 9, 2009 11:30 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Q on Backstrom?
If he had a decent week at a +3 why the no change? Is it because the bar is set so damn high for him?
(if so – not a bad thing)
by vt caps fan on Nov 9, 2009 11:34 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Actually I thought Backstrom played poorly this week except for the third period against FLA Saturday. He and Semin were more or less invisible for the most part.
by Kolzilla on Nov 9, 2009 11:46 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Pretty much.
Void Boyd! Go with Perreault!
by jordanDC on Nov 9, 2009 11:47 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
“Poorly”? Dunno! That spin-a-rama assist, right on Clementine’s doorstep, resulting in the 1st Flash goal, was pretty lovely.
But the bar is high and ought to be. I agree with JP’s ’ – ’
by Uncle C on Nov 9, 2009 11:54 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah you would have thought that he and Semin would have stepped up before Sloan and Laing.
He had some nifty passes though.
One guy just drove his semi as a float. I guess semis are cool.
by zephyr on Nov 9, 2009 11:56 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I wish Semin were invisible last week…
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by Killer_Carlson on Nov 9, 2009 6:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I wish Semin were invisible, period. That would give the Caps an unimaginably strong wild-card to play. Not as strong as Theo being invisible, perhaps, but still very useful.
Passing to him might be hard, but once he got the puck? Good luck.
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by winterion on Nov 9, 2009 9:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
how would you pass to somebody invisible? i feel like it’d be easier to stop somebody invisible cuz they’d have the puck on their stick and you’d be able to see that. he’d be a devil in the defensive zone tho (and much harder to nail for retarded penalties in the offensive zone….)
by twistedlogic on Nov 9, 2009 11:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Wouldn’t you just see his equipment floating around out there? I’m not so sure it would be much of an advantage.
Void Boyd! Go with Perreault!
by jordanDC on Nov 10, 2009 8:20 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i was assuming that the equipment was part of his person, so it’d be invisible too.
by twistedlogic on Nov 10, 2009 9:11 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If only we had the technology!
Void Boyd! Go with Perreault!
by jordanDC on Nov 10, 2009 4:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
No up for Q?
Blocked shot(s?), played through a broken nose, scored a non-garbage goal and he’s just meeting expectations? What, was he playing with Jurcina?
by Whisp on Nov 9, 2009 11:55 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
What’d he do the other two games? I’m asking partially due to old age.
"I'm just doing karate and trying to get females pregnant."
by Bald Pollack on Nov 9, 2009 11:56 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Good question…I was out of town and watched Friday’s game last night from DVR…tunnel vision on a 7-4 win…
by Whisp on Nov 9, 2009 12:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
When CSN cut to Ovie in the press box, I thought it looked more like he was dipping than drinking Coke.
"My face is my mask."
by jakeshapiro on Nov 9, 2009 12:07 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
He was definitely dipping. Shame, shame, shame. Eh, you don’t need your tongue to score goals.
I don't care how you score goals. Pretty or ugly. The ballet or the bulldozer. However you do it, just do it. And make sure you do it more than the other guys.
by Holt Worth on Nov 9, 2009 12:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I definitely thought he was dipping.
by Caps_Chick on Nov 9, 2009 12:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe it’s all part of a marketing push to make the Caps appeal not only to Northern Virginia, but Southern Virginia as well!
"My face is my mask."
by jakeshapiro on Nov 9, 2009 12:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He must of learned it from one of those rednecks from western Canada, or maybe he’s snus’ing and we can blame Nyls or Backis.
"I think the relentless negative coverage in The Washington Post is a real difference from previous years," Redskins general counsel David Donovan said. "But in terms of the way our actual fans are behaving, we don't see any difference."
by Sct112 on Nov 9, 2009 12:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, no doubt – that cup was his spitter.
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by J.P. on Nov 9, 2009 12:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Well, Tarik says he joined the end of practice today, so maybe someone who was there can ask him.
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by gotsparkly on Nov 9, 2009 12:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
We’ve long known he dips – not much to ask, really.
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by J.P. on Nov 9, 2009 12:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
And why is it really any of our business? I’m more concerned about his driving habits than his choice, really.
If consequences dictate the course of action, then it doesn't matter what's right, it's only wrong if you get caught. If consequences dictate the course of action, then I should play God...
by Fehr and Balanced on Nov 9, 2009 12:28 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Exactly. A hundred millionaire could have much worse habits. Driving around DC like he’s got a flux capacitor in the back seat? That’ll do.
I don't care how you score goals. Pretty or ugly. The ballet or the bulldozer. However you do it, just do it. And make sure you do it more than the other guys.
by Holt Worth on Nov 9, 2009 12:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m not sure it’s a question of whether or not it’s our business so much as why would/should we give a crap, with the obvious answer being that we’re fanatics (and I agree completely with your point).
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by J.P. on Nov 9, 2009 12:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’d be concerned because it’s a serious health issue, and one that doesn’t need to exist. I’d care if someone smokes.
I got a kick when I caught a few minutes of the final baseball game, and saw someone blow a bubble instead of dipping. Now that was cool.
by gfcaps fan on Nov 9, 2009 1:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
So is excessive anything.
Russian Machine very rarely breaks.
by macvechkin on Nov 9, 2009 1:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Smoking impacts his play on the ice. Driving recklessly can potentially impact his ability to even be on the ice. Dipping is going to cost him down the road but have no impact on his play. Let him make his own personal choices; he’ll have the money to live with the consequences when they hit him.
If consequences dictate the course of action, then it doesn't matter what's right, it's only wrong if you get caught. If consequences dictate the course of action, then I should play God...
by Fehr and Balanced on Nov 9, 2009 1:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It all comes down to what affects your opinion of someone. I agree, I don’t need to know everything personal about someone. However, this is something that is outwardly obvious, and I’m just vehemently against anything involving tobacco. I still love the guy, but my respect level drops a whole lot over something like that, even when I think that otherwise his parents have raised one heck of a kid.
by gfcaps fan on Nov 9, 2009 1:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hey, it could be worse. At least he spits into a cup, right?
"If you're gonna die after 24, might as well jump out at 23:59, no?"
by Laich It Or Lump It on Nov 9, 2009 1:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That’s awfully judgmental of you.
Russian Machine very rarely breaks.
by macvechkin on Nov 9, 2009 1:54 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
People make their own choices. She chooses to be very offended, oh well.
Void Boyd! Go with Perreault!
by jordanDC on Nov 9, 2009 1:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn’t say offended is the right word. The phrase was “but my respect level drops a whole lot over something like that”. Just wondering if they would enjoy being judged the same way, especially as a 24 year old?
Russian Machine very rarely breaks.
by macvechkin on Nov 9, 2009 1:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It’s legal, he can do what he wants. I don’t have to like it.
Doesn’t make me not a fan.
by gfcaps fan on Nov 9, 2009 1:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
How dare you judge that judgment.
Seriously, though, this isn’t some 40 year old dock worker or 22 year old Iraq vet. This is a professional athlete we shell out money to see play for our favorite hockey team, which has invested a lot of money and based their future upon his success. As fans(aka customers), we’re allowed to complain about how our athletes take care of themselves. When Ben Rothelsberger almost brained himself on a motorcycle did not all of Steeler Nation protest loudly at the concept of their franchise QB tearing around in a dangerous vehicle?
It appears the lacking immediate damage of dipping when in contrast to reckless driving, endless partying, or “harder” drugs. If Ovechkin had a 4 or 5 year contract I wouldn’t care as much. But he’s with us for over a decade. A decade use of dipping, depending on his habit, will rear it’s head eventually. Hockey is debilitating enough. It doesn’t need help. Even with Russian Machines. It will age him quicker and is an absolute serious risk for cancer.
As a customer of the NHL and the Washington Capitals, I have a right to object to this behavior.
Why can’t he just smoke weed like all the NBA and NFL stars?
I don't care how you score goals. Pretty or ugly. The ballet or the bulldozer. However you do it, just do it. And make sure you do it more than the other guys.
by Holt Worth on Nov 9, 2009 3:45 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
That’s a good explanation of why YOU choose to dislike his choices. The rest of us may not agree, however, and that’s why America is the greatest damn country on the face of the earth.
Void Boyd! Go with Perreault!
by jordanDC on Nov 9, 2009 3:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I thought the right to do something meant you can chose to or not to do it, but if you do chose to do it no one can give you crap about it.
Oh snap, semantics FTW!
I don't care how you score goals. Pretty or ugly. The ballet or the bulldozer. However you do it, just do it. And make sure you do it more than the other guys.
by Holt Worth on Nov 9, 2009 3:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Also, there’ll be dozens of young players in the DC metro area trying “to be like Ovie” and this, plus the cars, sex, etc, is not a good example.
by red army line on Nov 9, 2009 3:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
At least, my hope is that little kids get inspired to play hockey.
by red army line on Nov 9, 2009 3:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If you’re a kid watching that clip, do you know that Ovie is spitting tobacco into a cup? Most likely not.
Void Boyd! Go with Perreault!
by jordanDC on Nov 9, 2009 3:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe not, but kids hear about steroids, and pitchers tend to chew. Maybe they’ll start with gum instead.
by red army line on Nov 9, 2009 3:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Whoa whoa whoa. Now, we don’t want to throw the cars and the sex thing in with the dipping and bad techno, do we?
I don't care how you score goals. Pretty or ugly. The ballet or the bulldozer. However you do it, just do it. And make sure you do it more than the other guys.
by Holt Worth on Nov 9, 2009 3:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That came out wrong. I don’t really give a about what he does in his spare time as long as it’s not super dangerous, but some little Ovie fanatic might.
by red army line on Nov 9, 2009 3:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Why can’t he just smoke weed like all the NBA and NFL stars?
‘cause he is a foreign national and that’ll get his visa revoked? Who knows, maybe he does.. but I doubt he is going to turn the owner’s box into a hot box.
by renstar on Nov 9, 2009 3:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
with the obvious answer being that we’re fanatics
I don’t know what you’re talking about.
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Erp. Um, spot on?
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Nov 9, 2009 10:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
pop quiz
who has more total comments, JP or F&B? no peeking!
by Natty Bumppo on Nov 10, 2009 2:06 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m gonna catch him by New Year’s!
If consequences dictate the course of action, then it doesn't matter what's right, it's only wrong if you get caught. If consequences dictate the course of action, then I should play God...
by Fehr and Balanced on Nov 10, 2009 1:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Pertinent to not much at all.
I love chewing tabacco. My wife, not so much.
"I think the relentless negative coverage in The Washington Post is a real difference from previous years," Redskins general counsel David Donovan said. "But in terms of the way our actual fans are behaving, we don't see any difference."
by Sct112 on Nov 9, 2009 12:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Understandable – women typically don’t like chewing tobacco, having their significant others chew, or being chewed themselves (not sure what your second sentence was referring to, exactly).
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by J.P. on Nov 9, 2009 12:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
All but the last is generally true – nasty taste is only the beginning of the turnoff. As for the last … well, teeth used well aren’t all bad :)
Make no little plans; they have no magic to stir men's blood...Make big plans, aim high in hope and work. - Daniel H. Burnham
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by gotsparkly on Nov 9, 2009 12:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Rock on, Skoal Brothers.
Russian Machine very rarely breaks.
by macvechkin on Nov 9, 2009 12:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Speaking of dip, I saw an ad for a product that’s dip spiked with caffeine or taurine or one of those “make you hyper” stimulants. Yikes.
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by J.P. on Nov 9, 2009 12:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
So the massive quantity of nicotine is not enough? Yikes.
Russian Machine very rarely breaks.
by macvechkin on Nov 9, 2009 12:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Now they need to get alcohol in there too.
If consequences dictate the course of action, then it doesn't matter what's right, it's only wrong if you get caught. If consequences dictate the course of action, then I should play God...
by Fehr and Balanced on Nov 9, 2009 12:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m pretty sure Kodiak has alcohol in it, based on my experiences of dipping it after a 6 pack.
Russian Machine very rarely breaks.
by macvechkin on Nov 9, 2009 12:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Now we’re talking. I like the way you think F&B.
"I think the relentless negative coverage in The Washington Post is a real difference from previous years," Redskins general counsel David Donovan said. "But in terms of the way our actual fans are behaving, we don't see any difference."
by Sct112 on Nov 9, 2009 12:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
when I was young, I preferred leaf, myself.
If you've read this far...seek help.
by ThePeerless on Nov 9, 2009 2:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
When did you get a new avatar, gotsparkly!
Seems fitting of Ovie’s hobby.
"My face is my mask."
by jakeshapiro on Nov 9, 2009 12:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Uhhh….about a month ago :) That one’s been there for a while.
Make no little plans; they have no magic to stir men's blood...Make big plans, aim high in hope and work. - Daniel H. Burnham
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by gotsparkly on Nov 9, 2009 12:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Whoa, I’m sorry I never noticed before! Too caught up in F&B’s choice of moustache vs. no moustache, I guess.
"My face is my mask."
by jakeshapiro on Nov 9, 2009 12:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hahahahaha. No worries. It’s not terribly exciting :)
Make no little plans; they have no magic to stir men's blood...Make big plans, aim high in hope and work. - Daniel H. Burnham
Fan Clubs: Sloan, Schultz
by gotsparkly on Nov 9, 2009 12:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
BTW, Kopitar is poised to tie or pass AO in goals scored tonight. Hawks at Kings in the only game on a Hall-of-Fame Monday.
Anze passed Ovi in scoring the first night Alex sat out, and has 13 goals in 17 GP to Ovi’s 14 in 14.
We should give OV a nice round of applause that it has still taken the League at least 10 days to catch up with him, and maybe more if Hawks D and Cristobal Huet can contain Kopitar.
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by Your Nation's Capital on Nov 9, 2009 12:27 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Wasn’t there a similar case last year with Semin? I think he held the goals and points for another week and plus-minus for another month. Something like that.
by red army line on Nov 9, 2009 12:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That’s interesting. I was just looking at the other “league leader” stats, and #4 in the NHL for +/- is … Mike Knuble.
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by Your Nation's Capital on Nov 9, 2009 12:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
His two-way effectiveness is certainly on full display.
by red army line on Nov 9, 2009 1:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Forgot to add … it’s a plus-12. Keep on killin’ it, Kanoobie!
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by Your Nation's Capital on Nov 9, 2009 1:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Big fan of the “Ups and Downs” J.P.
It works well with my USA Today’ized brain. Now all we’re missing is pie charts.
"I think the relentless negative coverage in The Washington Post is a real difference from previous years," Redskins general counsel David Donovan said. "But in terms of the way our actual fans are behaving, we don't see any difference."
by Sct112 on Nov 9, 2009 12:39 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Not a fan of USA Today, but I agree. Wouldn’t surprise me to see other bloggers start copying it.
"My face is my mask."
by jakeshapiro on Nov 9, 2009 12:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I didn’t think they’d be able to replace “This Week in Corsi” with something better, and they proved me wrong. Again. Nicely done.
by red army line on Nov 9, 2009 1:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I always thought “Capital Gains and Losses” had a nice ring to it.
"If you're gonna die after 24, might as well jump out at 23:59, no?"
by Laich It Or Lump It on Nov 9, 2009 1:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
No, no, please….way too much like an over-used ESPN cop-out headline.
Russian Machine very rarely breaks.
by macvechkin on Nov 9, 2009 1:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
QUALCOMPS infographics in beta even as we speak.
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by Your Nation's Capital on Nov 9, 2009 1:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
UnFehr...
Fehr returns to the line up and picks up an assist. That’s a pretty positive trend (vs. being out with an injury). He should get an up arrow.
Let's go Caps!
by MikeL-Caps on Nov 9, 2009 12:50 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
One assist does not a trend make. Moreover, there were certainly implications coming out of the Caps’ camp that he was out a little longer than they had hoped/expected.
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by J.P. on Nov 9, 2009 12:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He needs to start eating and drinking whatever Flash is consuming.
Russian Machine very rarely breaks.
by macvechkin on Nov 9, 2009 12:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Antifreeze and rubbing alcohol.
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by Your Nation's Capital on Nov 9, 2009 12:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Airline food?
"I think the relentless negative coverage in The Washington Post is a real difference from previous years," Redskins general counsel David Donovan said. "But in terms of the way our actual fans are behaving, we don't see any difference."
by Sct112 on Nov 9, 2009 12:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Awesome-sauce.
One guy just drove his semi as a float. I guess semis are cool.
by zephyr on Nov 9, 2009 12:58 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
“Gasoline”
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Nov 9, 2009 10:55 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Rec’d for a great Chocolate Mousse reference.
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by Killer_Carlson on Nov 10, 2009 2:03 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
At what point does GMGM have to pull the trigger and try to move Fehr? Eventually he’s going to turn into Giroux.
"I think the relentless negative coverage in The Washington Post is a real difference from previous years," Redskins general counsel David Donovan said. "But in terms of the way our actual fans are behaving, we don't see any difference."
by Sct112 on Nov 9, 2009 12:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
My bet is the end of the season.
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by gotsparkly on Nov 9, 2009 12:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Except Fehr has already played 116 NHL games. Giroux has only played 25.
"If you're gonna die after 24, might as well jump out at 23:59, no?"
by Laich It Or Lump It on Nov 9, 2009 12:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
And Giroux has a 70 goal season in the A, and Fehr doesn’t. The point is neither seems capable of living up to their potential in the NHL.
"I think the relentless negative coverage in The Washington Post is a real difference from previous years," Redskins general counsel David Donovan said. "But in terms of the way our actual fans are behaving, we don't see any difference."
by Sct112 on Nov 9, 2009 1:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
But Fehr has at least stuck around in the NHL, while Giroux is incapable of matching his performance in the minors and is a perennial ’tweener.
"If you're gonna die after 24, might as well jump out at 23:59, no?"
by Laich It Or Lump It on Nov 9, 2009 1:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’ll argue the only reason that Giroux isn’t in Fehr’s position is because Fehr is on the roster.
"I think the relentless negative coverage in The Washington Post is a real difference from previous years," Redskins general counsel David Donovan said. "But in terms of the way our actual fans are behaving, we don't see any difference."
by Sct112 on Nov 9, 2009 1:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Fehr has at least been reliable defensively. Giroux is pretty much scoring or not contributing. You can’t put him on a checking line role and get much from him.
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by Fehr and Balanced on Nov 9, 2009 1:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Admittedly, comparing Fehr to Giroux is a bit harsh. But Fehr doesn’t really seem to fit onto the 3rd line either. He’s better than Giroux, which is why he’s in the NHL, but he isn’t a Bradley or a Laich or a Steckel type. He’s a guy like Flash that needs to be scoring to be earning ice time.
"I think the relentless negative coverage in The Washington Post is a real difference from previous years," Redskins general counsel David Donovan said. "But in terms of the way our actual fans are behaving, we don't see any difference."
by Sct112 on Nov 9, 2009 1:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think Fehr hasn’t really gotten a chance to cement his role in our lineup. Obviously a lot of that has to do with him being injured, but I think he could be a solid 3rd line guy, or potentially a 2nd line guy, or maybe just a 4th line guy that gives you honest minutes. He really hasn’t been given that chance, IMO. BB stuck with Flash through thick and thin and let the guy play through problems and carve out a niche on this team; I don’t think Fehr has been given that chance. Am I satisfied with what he’s done? No. Do I still expect him to live up to his draft position? Not really. But I do think it’s too early to say he can’t make it in the NHL.
If consequences dictate the course of action, then it doesn't matter what's right, it's only wrong if you get caught. If consequences dictate the course of action, then I should play God...
by Fehr and Balanced on Nov 9, 2009 1:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Or maybe you just don’t want to change your handle…
"If you're gonna die after 24, might as well jump out at 23:59, no?"
by Laich It Or Lump It on Nov 9, 2009 1:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Busted! I’ll just say Donald Fehr is the inspiration for the name and I’m a pro-union kinda guy. (I feel dirty typing that.)
If consequences dictate the course of action, then it doesn't matter what's right, it's only wrong if you get caught. If consequences dictate the course of action, then I should play God...
by Fehr and Balanced on Nov 9, 2009 1:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If this were a baseball blog, perhaps, but seeing as you spend most of your time on this Caps blog, I’m disinclined to believe you.
"If you're gonna die after 24, might as well jump out at 23:59, no?"
by Laich It Or Lump It on Nov 9, 2009 1:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
And if you knew me better you’d call bullshit on the second half of the sentence as well.
If consequences dictate the course of action, then it doesn't matter what's right, it's only wrong if you get caught. If consequences dictate the course of action, then I should play God...
by Fehr and Balanced on Nov 9, 2009 1:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You some sort of Pinkerton?
"If you're gonna die after 24, might as well jump out at 23:59, no?"
by Laich It Or Lump It on Nov 9, 2009 1:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
As in Scottish Detective or Weezer album?
One guy just drove his semi as a float. I guess semis are cool.
by zephyr on Nov 9, 2009 1:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
As in these guys.
"If you're gonna die after 24, might as well jump out at 23:59, no?"
by Laich It Or Lump It on Nov 9, 2009 1:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I thought you were going with this one.
If consequences dictate the course of action, then it doesn't matter what's right, it's only wrong if you get caught. If consequences dictate the course of action, then I should play God...
by Fehr and Balanced on Nov 9, 2009 1:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Due to its conflicts with labor unions, the word Pinkerton continues to be associated by labor organizers and union members with strikebreaking.
I’m actually impressed I remembered this stuff from my freshman year history class.
"If you're gonna die after 24, might as well jump out at 23:59, no?"
by Laich It Or Lump It on Nov 9, 2009 2:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with everything you just said (except for maybe the part about the 4th line guy). To be clear, I’m not advocating Fehr be shipped. I was simply asking when he crosses the threshold and becomes a known quantity rather than a guy with potential. Once that happens his value will undoubtedly go down and it might be in GMGMs best interest to shop him around before that happens.
"I think the relentless negative coverage in The Washington Post is a real difference from previous years," Redskins general counsel David Donovan said. "But in terms of the way our actual fans are behaving, we don't see any difference."
by Sct112 on Nov 9, 2009 1:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Don’t disagree with any of that. Asset management is the name of the game.
If consequences dictate the course of action, then it doesn't matter what's right, it's only wrong if you get caught. If consequences dictate the course of action, then I should play God...
by Fehr and Balanced on Nov 9, 2009 1:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m to the point where I’d like to see Fehr shipped for another prospect who has been decent, but never lived up to the hype. Maybe a change of scenery/system would help them both. Don’t know who off hand but I like that deal better than getting a 4th round pick or something similar for Fehr. I don’t see Fehr ever getting a serious, long-term shot under BB.
by Fehrskine on Nov 9, 2009 1:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Fehr seems to have his best productivity for us on the 2nd line. He did well with Flash on his line (and a varying cast of centers which included Backstrom, Feds, Nylander, and Steckel.)
Anyone move for him to be on a line with Flash and Backstrom for Wednesday?
by CapsFan75 on Nov 9, 2009 6:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
14-19-16 intrigues me. But I guess in that case 16 is your corner worker, in which role he’s met a lot of nurses.
by redlineblue on Nov 9, 2009 7:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Worked last year. That was one of the lines vs Detroit in Jan 2009.
by CapsFan75 on Nov 9, 2009 7:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
And presumably he earned that roster spot over Giroux and others.
"If you're gonna die after 24, might as well jump out at 23:59, no?"
by Laich It Or Lump It on Nov 9, 2009 1:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’d draw a distinction there. I think Fehr’s failures (thus far and perhaps for the foreseeable future) relate to his inability to stay healthy, whereas Giroux’s have been due to an actual lack of skill. Basically, I’m not sure Giroux hasn’t lived up to his NHL potential.
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by J.P. on Nov 9, 2009 1:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I see your point. But you know Giroux as a tweener, at some point that could be Fehr too. When does GMGM have to start shopping him for him to still have potential.
"I think the relentless negative coverage in The Washington Post is a real difference from previous years," Redskins general counsel David Donovan said. "But in terms of the way our actual fans are behaving, we don't see any difference."
by Sct112 on Nov 9, 2009 1:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Fehr is still 25 and has time to put it together. Laich didn’t do much at his age, people (including me) were calling for Flash’s head at times last season, etc. Not saying he should be handed a spot in the lineup every night, but it’s probably a little early to give up on him altogether.
by Kolzilla on Nov 9, 2009 1:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
fully agree. the need to see him put together a consistent injury-free stretch of hockey is super important – just hope we get that chance.
by aaw6848 on Nov 9, 2009 1:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Should the Caps be that team or should they be willing to risk missing out for a pick/prospect without the injury problems?
"I think the relentless negative coverage in The Washington Post is a real difference from previous years," Redskins general counsel David Donovan said. "But in terms of the way our actual fans are behaving, we don't see any difference."
by Sct112 on Nov 9, 2009 1:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I guess it depends what they can get for him. I probably wouldn’t trade him for a fourth-round pick, for example. Second-round pick? Maybe. But it’s nice to have the kind of F depth that the Caps do.
by Kolzilla on Nov 9, 2009 1:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yea, “depends what you can get” is the standard response here. As DMG’s prospect reports said last week, there is a lot more depth on the blueline than on F, so I’d be inclined to keep him for now.
"If you're gonna die after 24, might as well jump out at 23:59, no?"
by Laich It Or Lump It on Nov 9, 2009 1:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I know this would never happen, but what about trading for a blue chip F prospect and maybe giving up one of the 10 or so good goalies we have on the farm along with Fehr?
by Kolzilla on Nov 9, 2009 1:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I doubt that’d be enough to get a blue chip F. Those are the most sought after players nowadays because they have the greatest potential to outperform their contract. D and G take a long time to develop so they usually won’t light it up on the ELC, but forwards can come right in and contribute because offense is the easiest part of the game if you’ve got the skill.
If consequences dictate the course of action, then it doesn't matter what's right, it's only wrong if you get caught. If consequences dictate the course of action, then I should play God...
by Fehr and Balanced on Nov 9, 2009 1:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Actually, Fehr just turned 24 in September (10 days before Ovie).
by CapsFan75 on Nov 9, 2009 6:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Too bad games can’t be decided by Corsi numbers…Fehr could be an MVP.
One guy just drove his semi as a float. I guess semis are cool.
by zephyr on Nov 9, 2009 1:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree that it’s not a big trend, but it sure is a heckuva lot more than he was contributing before….if he doesn’t do much more next week, then flat-line him.
Let's go Caps!
by MikeL-Caps on Nov 9, 2009 3:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I guess the Steckel and Semin bashing shouldn’t be a surprise given the recent spate of posts here but I still just don’t agree with it at all.
by markbona-capsfan99 on Nov 9, 2009 1:47 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
most of us dont, i dont think – it seems to be a small few who are insistent about semin being “TEH WORZT EVAAAAR!!!”
by aaw6848 on Nov 9, 2009 2:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Or just shitty lately.
Void Boyd! Go with Perreault!
by jordanDC on Nov 9, 2009 2:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
True enough.
Void Boyd! Go with Perreault!
by jordanDC on Nov 9, 2009 2:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i think the important thing is, is that some people are not viewing it with as much reason as you are. and while YOU are able to see that semin is in fact playing shitty right now – it will change, and discussing possible trades and what semin’s value is in the market is just overkill.
by aaw6848 on Nov 9, 2009 2:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, he’ll do the usual ebb and flow of a Semin season. Stretches of brilliance and stretches of this, otherwise completely unreliable.
UNSUBSCRIBE.
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by macvechkin on Nov 9, 2009 2:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
maybe i’m still sleepy from lunch but i’m not udnerstanding fully what you’re saying..are you asking me to unsubscribe from something?
by aaw6848 on Nov 9, 2009 2:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
heh – no, i’m saying i want to unsubscribe from the inconsistent/disappearing/maddening alex semin.
Russian Machine very rarely breaks.
by macvechkin on Nov 9, 2009 2:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
haha. i’m making it a bad happen to completely fail to interpret what people say. Yes, take me off that mailing list as well.
by aaw6848 on Nov 9, 2009 2:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
habit, not happen. i can’t type, or think, or read. sorry
by aaw6848 on Nov 9, 2009 2:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I involve myself in those discussions just for fun, because who doesn’t like being a video game GM?
Semin for Frolov + Moller, pull the trigger!
Void Boyd! Go with Perreault!
by jordanDC on Nov 9, 2009 2:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
or Kovalchuk!
"If you're gonna die after 24, might as well jump out at 23:59, no?"
by Laich It Or Lump It on Nov 9, 2009 2:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah yeah yeah!
Void Boyd! Go with Perreault!
by jordanDC on Nov 9, 2009 2:29 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Nice avatar change.
"If you're gonna die after 24, might as well jump out at 23:59, no?"
by Laich It Or Lump It on Nov 9, 2009 2:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Riding the wave while I can.
Void Boyd! Go with Perreault!
by jordanDC on Nov 9, 2009 2:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Two thumbs up!
IS PЯACTICE ЯINK NOW
by Your Nation's Capital on Nov 9, 2009 2:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’ll tackle the former; Steckel’s being given a prime opportunity to be a viable ES asset, yet he continues to squander the chance. The fact that Perreault, who has the ability to make his linemates better, not to mention has been a shot in the arm on 5v5, makes him a much better candidate for 3C than the guy who came into came with no competition.
"I'm just doing karate and trying to get females pregnant."
by Bald Pollack on Nov 9, 2009 2:15 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Thiiiiiiis.
Deathmatch between Steckel and Goyd Bordon for 4C, give 3rd line spot to Matty boy.
Void Boyd! Go with Perreault!
by jordanDC on Nov 9, 2009 2:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i like boyd gordon, always have. but i’m afraid to say his days in DC are numbered, for sure. A deathmatch seems to be the only responsible way to determine this though – so i agree.
by aaw6848 on Nov 9, 2009 2:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Boyd can be QA’d for another year and will likely receive it, as the organization seems to have a proclivity with not getting something in return when letting an asset go. That said, if Steckel re-signed say, in the $900-1.1m neighborhood, they’ll need to figure out what to do, assuming Mackan and the MP conglomerate effectively represent in next year’s camp.
Further to the “MP for 3C” argument, (and sample size/opponent stipulations, of course), but if he stays neck and neck with Stecks in GAON/60 over the next couple weeks with the Rangers and Habs coming up, then who knows?
"I'm just doing karate and trying to get females pregnant."
by Bald Pollack on Nov 9, 2009 2:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
actually, i think stecks has done okay. i think he should get a " – " . while he hasn’t scored goals, he isn’t being asked to. he’s a physical player and wins faceoffs. what i have seen of him is this - i have seen him have a few opportunities to score and he has created chances for others.
Rock the Red! Rock the White! Rock the Blue! Rock the Pens!
by RedskinFan4Life on Nov 9, 2009 7:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
while he hasn’t scored goals, he isn’t being asked to.
Disagree. On the third line, more is asked of him to contribute on ES. He wasn’t setting the world on fire there, with the Gordon injury, he’s playing on the 4th line with familiar teammates, and naturally clicking a little more.
i have seen him have a few opportunities to score and he has created chances for others.
Aside from him whiffing on some chances and passing to linemates to do the same, his production this year is half of what it was last year. He’s scored goals before, albeit in the A, and has got to find his touch soon because I sure don’t want to team to overpay who a guy who’s really good on faceoffs, occasionally on the PK, and that’s about it.
"I'm just doing karate and trying to get females pregnant."
by Bald Pollack on Nov 9, 2009 8:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Wait, you don’t agree that Semin had a bad week?
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by J.P. on Nov 9, 2009 2:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Semin’s week was so bad, someone should write a County/Western song about it…
Let's go Caps!
by MikeL-Caps on Nov 9, 2009 3:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Heh.
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by J.P. on Nov 9, 2009 3:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
he’s Siberian, so he lost his girl, his reindeer, and his snowmobile?
by RedBirdie on Nov 9, 2009 5:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Novosibirsk City Limits?
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by winterion on Nov 9, 2009 9:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
His week was so bad that he would probably be a healthy scratch if Ovi were coming back on Wednesday.
I never saw anyone fall so precipitously as Semin this week.
by CapsFan75 on Nov 9, 2009 6:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He’s averaging a point a game!! I think they’ll keep him in the lineup.
by mechanicsville on Nov 9, 2009 10:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
We have 3 other wingers averaging a point a game (Ovi, Laich, Flash) and the other is Knuble, who’s close. It would appear he’s bumped from the top 2 lines. I’m guessing third line for Semin when Ovi’s back — unless he gets untracked sooner.
Turns out Semin hasn’t been so healthy laterly anyhow.
by CapsFan75 on Nov 10, 2009 6:50 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I guess the Steckel and Semin bashing shouldn’t be a surprisegiven the recent spate of posts heregiven that David Steckel’s the only forward yet to score a goal and Alex Semin had a awful week in which he hurt his team much more than helped.
by David M. Getz on Nov 9, 2009 3:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Contract negotiations:
GMGM: You remember that week at the beginning of November? The one in which Semin took all those penalties while Ovie was out and cost us some games?
Agent: The name of the game is winning, and we won two of the three!
by red army line on Nov 9, 2009 3:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
GMGM: In spite of Semin’s play.
Void Boyd! Go with Perreault!
by jordanDC on Nov 9, 2009 4:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Agent: I don’t believe in bad penalty-related discounts.
by David M. Getz on Nov 9, 2009 7:37 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I don’t think either side would argue that three games made up a material portion of Alex Semin’s career in Washington.
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by J.P. on Nov 9, 2009 5:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
By the end of the year, it probably won’t be. Of course, with some bosses, it would be. (I had a week like Semin a year and a half ago and got some nasty comments in my performance evaluation as a result.)
by CapsFan75 on Nov 10, 2009 6:44 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
They could serve as an example of his “downs”
by red army line on Nov 10, 2009 8:42 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Corey on GMGM on ....
Corey’s Twitter’s going nutso this morning, but here’s the gist:
Green: Per Gangsta, he expects to play Wed.
Schultz: Per Gabby, should skate tomorrow.
Gordo: Per Gabby, will need a few more hard practices before being ready.
Ovi: Per Gabby, probably won’t play Wed but isn’t ruled out beyond that. Per McPhee, they’re going to play it smart but he only expects Ovi to be out another week or two, maybe a tad more but definitely not 4-5 weeks. Ovi himself says he was kidding about that.
Nylander: Something’s up, there’s “stuff going on” and “decisions have been made” but GMGM isn’t spilling until tomorrow.
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by gotsparkly on Nov 9, 2009 1:50 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
We didn’t want to spoil the surprise, but here’s the big news: Thursday will officially be Michael Nylander day in the city of Washington!
by Kolzilla on Nov 9, 2009 1:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
No speed limits > driving in circles.
"I'm just doing karate and trying to get females pregnant."
by Bald Pollack on Nov 9, 2009 2:16 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
How ’bout driving reall fast in trffice circles?
If you've read this far...seek help.
by ThePeerless on Nov 9, 2009 2:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Roundabouts dear chap, which sounds an awful lot like a guilty pleasure Elvis song I like.
"I'm just doing karate and trying to get females pregnant."
by Bald Pollack on Nov 9, 2009 3:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Don’t know about you, but when I see Roundabout, I think Yes.
Void Boyd! Go with Perreault!
by jordanDC on Nov 9, 2009 3:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Damn you for sticking that song in my head.
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by J.P. on Nov 9, 2009 3:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Doing you a favor.
Void Boyd! Go with Perreault!
by jordanDC on Nov 9, 2009 3:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
and if I could only spell….
If you've read this far...seek help.
by ThePeerless on Nov 9, 2009 2:42 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Sorry I’m late with this.
Caps divisional magic number is 111 Points, 55.5 games. GO GO GO!
by FFSEnough on Nov 10, 2009 11:48 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Flash on XM right now.
Void Boyd! Go with Perreault!
by jordanDC on Nov 10, 2009 4:46 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
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Southeast Standings
| GP | W | L | OTL | PT | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Washington
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22 | 13 | 5 | 4 | 30 |
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Tampa Bay
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19 | 8 | 4 | 7 | 23 |
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Atlanta
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18 | 10 | 6 | 2 | 22 |
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Florida
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20 | 9 | 9 | 2 | 20 |
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Carolina
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21 | 4 | 12 | 5 | 13 |
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