Wednesday Caps Clips: Caps @ Devils Game Day
by J.P. on Nov 4, 2009 6:41 AM EST
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Your savory breakfast links:
- Preview of tonight's first game sans Alex Ovechkin from Vogs, NHL.com and Peerless, and be sure to check out our SB Nation partner In Lou We Trust for coverage (and an epic preview) from the other side of tonight's match up.
- Refresh your memory as to the last match-up between these teams, less than a month ago. [SB Nation]
- Press scrums with AO, Bruce Boudreau, Nicklas Backstrom, Brendan Morrison, Chris Clark and Mike Green on the injury heard 'round the NHL world and what it means going forward (bonus quick hit with Mathieu Perreault on his recall at the end). [Caps365 (video); Washington Times article; Washington Post's article; NHL.com's article]
- Y'know, for all the horrendous misinterpretations and/or misuse of Boudreau's comments regarding the length of Ovechkin's absence from the lineup (from "Capitals' Ovechkin expected to miss one game" to "Ovechkin out up to two weeks"), I'm surprised no one's jumped on AO saying he's going to "take some coke" and claim that the Great Eight has a drug problem.
- "Ovechkin's recovery time from an upper-body strain presents a prime opportunity for "the other Alex" - Alexander Semin - to prove he can produce consistently and that he is worthy of a long-term contract at season's end." [Washington Times]
- To that end, Semin's agent is quoted as saying: "I don't believe in discounts." I wonder if he makes the same percentage on a KHL deal as an NHL one. [Examiner]
- More on Semin's chance to step up. [OFB]
- It's not that Ovi doesn't get hurt, it's that he doesn't feel pain. Or something. [Examiner]
- Is the League's discipline office asleep at the wheel
yet againon this one? [Ed Frankovic's Blog] - Five players who must step up in the two-time reigning MVP's absence. [Fight For Old D.C.]
- Pictures from yesterday's practice (yes, they did actually skate yesterday). [Caps In Pictures]
- Regarding that practice, I'm going to throw a flag on placing "news" and "Eric Fehr left practice early" next to each other. [In The Room]
- Here are your new lines (for the moment, at least). [Capitals Insider]
- Brian Leetch - the last defenseman to have a 100-point season - throws some love Green's way. [CP]
- Speaking of Green, he "appears to be just hitting his stride and should be left standing when the final cuts [for Team Canada] are announced, if not among the top six, at least as a power play specialist." Huh. [CTV]
- Pierre Lebrun took the opportunity to post some moron's rant about the Caps (you'll never guess who "the worst defender in the NHL" is) and respond by basically blaming the entirety of the team's supposed defensive woes on A.O. Um, ok. [ESPN]
- LeBrun's on a roll. Regarding AO's new deal with IMG for representation he writes, "It has to be a bit of an acknowledgment that Ovechkin and his family made a mistake to part ways with [former agent Don] Meehan." Really? [ESPN]
- More weekly power rankings are out, with the Caps down two spots to fourth here at SBN, up one to fourth at FOXSports, up five to third at Y! and holding at fifth at SI.com and sixth at CBSSports.
- Hey, people - be thankful the Caps don't have a meddling owner and stop telling The Boss how to run his team (leave that to us bloggers). [Ted's Take]
- Speaking of The Boss, here's this week's Hockey This Morning spot. [XM204 (audio)]
- The Caps raised nearly $25k for Hockey Fights Cancer. Bravo. [Hockey Mom]
- More Ovie-tine, please! [Flickr via @clydeorama]
- "10 Things You Should Know About Matt Bradley." [Capitals]
- Yesterday was "Washington Capitals Day" in D.C., and it was such a big story that the team didn't even put out a release on it until the day was almost over. [Capitals]
- Some interesting notes on dasher board advertising around the League. [NEI Nuclear Notes]
- Finally, happy 31st birthday to Rick Berry.
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That rant in LeBrun's column...
Is awesome. Its got the complete rundown of Nincompoop Capitals Insider Commenters Talking Points, and it almost reads as a parody of itself in the “Gun Down Jeff Schultz” portion:
Secondly, Jeff Schultz is the worst defender in the NHL. All that size, and he hits no one, he is constantly finding ways to make himself smaller, but never poke-checking attackers, never engaging when he has support, and he only looks big when he is screening his own goalie
Hilarious. That’s so good it should be a satire.
Ron and Fez 11 to 3
by YvonLabresMoustache on Nov 4, 2009 7:34 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
This is great too...
Concerning Ovi:
If Ovechkin sacrificed some offense in order to play safe hockey, believe me, the whole team would follow along. It wouldn’t be as much fun to watch, but the Caps would be a more serious contender come playoff time.
So Ovechkin is detrimental because he SCORES TOO MUCH? Huh? That’s exactly like writers who accuse baseball players of “clogging up the basepaths”.
Maybe Pierre should have watched the Caps/Islanders game, where Ovi passed up numerous scoring chances. That didn’t turn out too well.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Nov 4, 2009 7:38 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
To be fair, he isn’t talking about Ovechkin passing up shots in order to play a safer game. He’s talking about:
1. Hustling back every shift on the backcheck.
2. Not turning the puck over at the blue line trying to make a highlight play.
3. Not abandoning the defensive zone so fast to try and get the breakaway (give your defense somewhere to outlet the puck).
4. Exert more effort in the defensive end contesting pucks along the wall, even if it means coming down below the circle.
Hey, we all know that #8 can play great defense. He just doesn’t do it every shift. When you consistently see defensemen trying to hit him on the breakaway every time we clear the puck, you have to wonder where he was while we were fighting to gain control of the puck to begin with.
Part of it might be the mindset of Ovechkin. Part of it might be the system. How great could we be though if #8 gave the same effort every shift on both ends of the ice? It might lead to shorter shifts, which would be a good thing as he would wear himself out faster. It would also probably lead to a few minutes less per game, which would probably also be a good thing. And in reality, if he played more defense, and played shorter shifts, he would probably still have enough get up and go to still dominate on the offensive end.
Hell, he might even end up in the offensive end with the rest of his teammates instead of streaking ahead unsupported, and might even have more offensive scoring opportunities. Can you even imagine a shift where Ovechkin’s line arrives on offense together, sets up a quality scoring opportunity, and are able to keep pressure if they don’t score so that they can try again (kind of like a power play, but not). This is what many teams manage to do with their tops lines, but we don’t. Its called sustained pressure. And it works. Especially against us.
by HateOffSeason on Nov 4, 2009 8:01 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
I agree with most of this. I just want to point out that number 2 is more of a problem with Semin and number 3 is more of a problem with BB. I have to believe BB encourages, or at least condones, AO flying the zone early. It reminds me of some of the heat Brian Leetch used to take. His Rags coaches used to tell him to be extremely aggressive pinching and trying to hold the blue line because he was so good at it and they wanted that offense. That meant a good deal of odd-man breaks going the other way when the forwards weren’t high in the zone or backchecking hard enough. That led people to say Leetch was a one-way player and couldn’t play D. He may not have been the best defensive guy ever, but he was definitely competent in his own end; he played the way the coaches told him to and that led to certain trade offs.
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by Fehr and Balanced on Nov 4, 2009 11:01 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
So Ovechkin is detrimental because he SCORES TOO MUCH? Huh?
That’s not the argument. The argument is that, in pursuit of offense, the Capitals sometimes take too many risks that hurt their overall goal differential. It’s better to score 2.8 goals a game and allow 2.2 than it is to score 3.2 and allow 2.8 (the numbers are just examples).
by David M. Getz on Nov 4, 2009 10:52 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
stats are nice and all but a win is a win is a win at the end of the day.
by RedBirdie on Nov 4, 2009 11:10 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m not talking about accumulating statistics for the sake of accumulating statistics, I’m talking about changes in performance that make the team more likely to win that will also show up in statistics. You win games by outscoring your opponents, not just by scoring goals. If you tweak your style of play to score 10% less often but you allow 25% fewer goals, you’re going to be a better team.
by David M. Getz on Nov 4, 2009 11:20 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
stats are nice and all but a win is a win is a win at the end of the day.
Last I checked, the wins and losses are decided based on statistics — the team with the most “goals” wins. Using DMG’s examples, a team with a +.6 goal differential will win more games than a team with a +.4 goal differential, unless some truly fluky games are thrown in the mix.
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Nov 4, 2009 11:26 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Disagree. Unless you’re in the playoffs or in a tooth-and-nail fight for positioning therein, how you play is more important than that you win. For this Caps team right now, it most certainly is.
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by J.P. on Nov 4, 2009 11:26 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The problem is that while the Caps are accumulating points, they aren’t practicing the habits that they need to employ in order to win in the playoffs. That includes playing team defense. I would imagine that it’s difficult to simply turn it on when other teams who are also highly-skilled have been practicing that type of play for much longer than you have.
by Kolzilla on Nov 4, 2009 11:30 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Right, this is exactly my point.
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by J.P. on Nov 4, 2009 11:31 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Jeff Schultz is the worst defender in the NHL.
False. Just false.
All that size, and he hits no one
False. Credited with 12 hits so far.
he is constantly finding ways to make himself smaller
False. Only Wayne Szalinski can do that.
but never poke-checking attackers
False. That’s exactly what he does.
never engaging when he has support
False. It’s called positioning and blocking passing lanes. Something he excels at.
he only looks big when he is screening his own goalie
False. He only looks big when you know what to look for.
"If you're gonna die after 24, might as well jump out at 23:59, no?"
by Laich It Or Lump It on Nov 4, 2009 8:15 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Why are you bothering to argue with the idiot letter writer?
by gfcaps fan on Nov 4, 2009 8:32 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
On a site where that guy isn’t reading, no less. Preaching to the choir Laich It Or Lump It.
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by Fehr and Balanced on Nov 4, 2009 11:02 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
both of those LeBrun pieces further remind me why I cannot take ESPN’s hockey coverage seriously. What garbage.
by RedBirdie on Nov 4, 2009 10:01 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t think that’s fair, LeBrun is just one guy.
by David M. Getz on Nov 4, 2009 10:15 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
LeBrun. Burnside. Hradek. ESPN’s core hockey group is simply awful. The only redeeming idea is that some of the SportsCenter anchors (Linda Cohn and John Buccigross) still like the sport and give it an honest review during game recaps. I’m also still partial to Melrose.
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by winterion on Nov 4, 2009 10:38 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think Hradek is pretty good, but I don’t care for Burnside or LeBrun. Buccigross is great, though.
by David M. Getz on Nov 4, 2009 10:45 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Bucci is a mixed bag to me…sometimes brilliant and others intolerable.
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by macvechkin on Nov 4, 2009 11:23 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I’ve developed a serious dislike for Burnside. Buccigross gets annoying from time to time, but tolerable.
by gfcaps fan on Nov 4, 2009 11:33 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Out of curiosity, did the reasons why Semin leaving IMG for Gandler ever come out?
"I'm just doing karate and trying to get females pregnant."
by Bald Pollack on Nov 4, 2009 7:46 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I wish Mike Green played as a foward in one of the games while Ovie is out just to see how he does. I started watching hockey recently so I don’t really know if he has played the position before. Does anyone know how he feels about it? I would imagine he doesn’t want to or he would have tried it by now?
by CapsFan2020 on Nov 4, 2009 8:00 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Why? Green is effective because he provides an extra offensive threat.
by RPI93 on Nov 4, 2009 8:58 AM EST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
….which makes him extremely valuable for a defenseman, a position not known for its offensive production
Ron and Fez 11 to 3
by YvonLabresMoustache on Nov 4, 2009 9:04 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
What if he can score 40 goals as a forward for the next 4 years and only about 20 as a defenseman, would he still be considered more valuable as a defenseman? Are his skills as a defensemen or the “extra offensive threat” seing as more valuable than the additional goals? Can you clarify this for me? Thanks.
by CapsFan2020 on Nov 4, 2009 9:55 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’ve seen nothing from his game to indicate he would score MORE as a forward. Shots from the point and sneaking in the back door for cross ice passes aren’t exactly prototypical forward plays.
He wouldn’t have the natural inclination to step into the high traffic areas forwards need to go to to score, and aside from scoring on the rush he’d be out of his element and would need a lot of time to adjust
Leave the Norris trophy finalist on the blue line
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by Sombrero Guy on Nov 4, 2009 10:02 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He wouldn’t have the natural inclination to step into the high traffic areas forwards need to go to to score, and aside from scoring on the rush he’d be out of his element and would need a lot of time to adjust
word. watch green as he enters the zone and does not have an obvious pass to another forward or open shot. he’ll go around the boards and usually end up losing the puck or forcing a bad pass.
he is great where he is.
by ns on Nov 4, 2009 10:18 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
2020:
start here. then check out JP’s general summary of green’s 2008-2009. then check out on the forecheck’s MVP breakdown from last year and the reasons for his particular choice.
by Natty Bumppo on Nov 4, 2009 10:03 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe it’s just me, but I find LeBrun’s response to the rant more than reasonable. In any sport where a player is expected to play both offense and defense (baseball, hockey, basketball), how many of the all-time greats were not at least competent two-way players? In baseball, Ruth is in the Hall of Fame for 714 home runs and saving baseball from the “dead-ball era,” but he would have gone to the Hall as a pitcher, and he was an underrated outfielder. Joe DiMaggio was the best defensive centerfielder in Yankee history. Michael Jordan was an elite defender. Wilt Chamberlain scored 100 points in a game but once averaged more than 27 rebounds a game in a full season.
Yzerman and his famous coach-aided epiphany might be the most famous example of a player sacrificing individual statistics to win, but he’s not the only two way player to be recognized among the greatest ever in the NHL. Bobby Orr redefined the role of a defenseman, but he was an elite defenseman, whatever his offensive statistics. Wayne Gretzky scored more points than God, but while he wasn’t among the greatest defensive forwards in NHL history, he wasn’t a liability. Mario Lemieux was an efficient penalty killer. Guys who didn’t sacrifice some on one side of the ice for more effectivness at the other generally didn’t win (think “Jaromir Jagr without Lemieux”).
At some point, the Young Guns are going to have to eat their vegetables, Ovechkin included. You could see it at times this year when Ovechkin would skate furiously on a backcheck to cover a mistake somewhere else on the ice. But it hasn’t matured to the level Yzerman exhibited in the late 1990’s. When it does, and when it does for guys like Green and Semin, it will be difficult to beat the Capitals on any night, those in June included.
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by ThePeerless on Nov 4, 2009 8:14 AM EST reply actions 4 recs
I don’t disagree, but I’m not sure Ovechkin’s inconsistent backchecking efforts have anything to do with the repeated miscues of supposedly veteran blueliners.
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by J.P. on Nov 4, 2009 8:43 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
To be honest, as long as he keeps putting up close to 60 a year, he can backcheck in a tutu for all I care
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Nov 4, 2009 8:44 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If he is expected to be leading, he can’t only be playing 1 side of the ice.
"I think the relentless negative coverage in The Washington Post is a real difference from previous years," Redskins general counsel David Donovan said. "But in terms of the way our actual fans are behaving, we don't see any difference."
by Sct112 on Nov 4, 2009 9:26 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
As soon as everyone else routinely scores 55-60 goals a year they can freelance too. Until then, listen to yer geddem coaches!
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by macvechkin on Nov 4, 2009 11:26 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Is this a situation where +/- stat is actually useful?
by FFSEnough on Nov 4, 2009 11:27 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Putting up a lot of goals only matter when you’re giving up fewer. I’d rather have a guy who creates 30 goals and allows 20 than a guy who scores 80 and allows 90 (not that Ovechkin’s that guy, but you see my point…)
by David M. Getz on Nov 4, 2009 10:49 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Come on now Pothier has to be expected to make some miscues now again. I mean his mind must be going crazy knowing his is being paired with the worst defensemen in the league.
A man gotta have a code
by CP2Devil on Nov 4, 2009 8:50 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Another point here is that if Keith Aucoin, Eric Fehr and Chris Clark are waiting for AO to start backchecking before they do the same, Keith Aucoin, Eric Fehr and Chris Clark shouldn’t be playing.
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by J.P. on Nov 4, 2009 8:47 AM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Melrose’s piece was way more interesting than LeBrun’s though the message was similar. The bottom line is Ovi brings chaos when he steps onto the ice. It makes him very effective on the offensive side, but it is also disruptive for the Caps as well. It leads to a lot of odd man breaks etc.
To me there are two solutions:
1) Ovi needs to play a bit more in the team game.
2) The team needs to play a bit more conservatively around him.
I’m not sure which of these I advocate.
"I think the relentless negative coverage in The Washington Post is a real difference from previous years," Redskins general counsel David Donovan said. "But in terms of the way our actual fans are behaving, we don't see any difference."
by Sct112 on Nov 4, 2009 9:31 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
What have you noticed that would suggest Ovie hasn’t been playing in the “team game?”
"If you're gonna die after 24, might as well jump out at 23:59, no?"
by Laich It Or Lump It on Nov 4, 2009 9:36 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I didn’t mean to imply that Ovie isn’t a team player.
What I was intending to say is that he attempts to make plays (and sometimes succeeds) that can leave his own team exposed. It’s an exageration, but Ovie doesn’t dump the puck to allow his linemates to get off the ice. The hit he made on Chimera, was on his opposite wing. What was he doing over there? The way he plays is disruptive, but it is disruptive to the Caps structure as well.
"I think the relentless negative coverage in The Washington Post is a real difference from previous years," Redskins general counsel David Donovan said. "But in terms of the way our actual fans are behaving, we don't see any difference."
by Sct112 on Nov 4, 2009 9:40 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If Ovie needs to be reigned in because he’s too quick for his teammates, then I put that on Bruce and his system. Ovie roams the ice because that’s what his coach allows him to do, which fits into the team philosophy.
"If you're gonna die after 24, might as well jump out at 23:59, no?"
by Laich It Or Lump It on Nov 4, 2009 9:44 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
What was he doing over there? The way he plays is disruptive, but it is disruptive to the Caps structure as well.
couldn’t you say the same thing about mike green 50% of the time? i think BB wants AO moving around the ice and finding holes; if AO didn’t, the other team would know where to find him and the team wouldn’t be creating mismatches by overloading different areas of the ice. when did this become AO’s fault and not the reason for BB’s and the caps’ success?
by Natty Bumppo on Nov 4, 2009 9:54 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m not blaming AO for the Caps’ problems. I agree that it is systemic. Running from BB down to Laing. The reason that I use AO as the example is that he is the leader of the team.
"I think the relentless negative coverage in The Washington Post is a real difference from previous years," Redskins general counsel David Donovan said. "But in terms of the way our actual fans are behaving, we don't see any difference."
by Sct112 on Nov 4, 2009 10:18 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
but if AO is doing what his coach wants him to do, isn’t he also leading?
by Natty Bumppo on Nov 4, 2009 10:18 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Is he doing what BB wants him to do though? Is BB happy when AO tries to dance around three guys and it leads to an odd man rush the other way? OV doesn’t have much of a leash, and there are lots of rewards for that freedom, but there is a cost to it as well (long shifts, odd man rushes).
"I think the relentless negative coverage in The Washington Post is a real difference from previous years," Redskins general counsel David Donovan said. "But in terms of the way our actual fans are behaving, we don't see any difference."
by Sct112 on Nov 4, 2009 10:26 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
But if AO’s play is causing problems, then Bruce needs to address it. Shift lengths are something Bruce should control and odd man rushes are not solely Ovie’s fault.
"If you're gonna die after 24, might as well jump out at 23:59, no?"
by Laich It Or Lump It on Nov 4, 2009 10:30 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Nobody should get a free pass, not Laing, not AO, not Semin, not BB. It is up to Bruce to help keep the guys level, but in the end it is up to the players to play intelligent two way hockey. BB gives a lot of freedom in the system to be creative, but that doesn’t mean Green should try to thread a pass along the blueline between Richards’ legs on the PP. The reason I’ve used AO in all of my comments is because it starts at the top (this was Melrose’s and LeBruns point). If he dumps the puck when the defense is going off for a change rather than trying to skate through three guys it eliminates the chance of an odd man rush. If AO becomes more aware defensively, so will the other guys. It might mean AO doesn’t score an amazing 1 on 4 goal. Instead the Caps don’t give up another 3rd period lead to a bottom half team. They win, and I don’t lose as much hair as I did this weekend.
"I think the relentless negative coverage in The Washington Post is a real difference from previous years," Redskins general counsel David Donovan said. "But in terms of the way our actual fans are behaving, we don't see any difference."
by Sct112 on Nov 4, 2009 11:16 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think we strayed from the initial point a bit. There’s nothing wrong with Ovie and the rest being more defensively accountable. Who would argue against that?
What I was addressing was Ovie playing within the “team game.” It’s up to the players to operate within Bruce’s system, but if any player, Ovie or otherwise, is operating outside that system, then it’s on Bruce to address it (see Nylander).
Currently the team game doesn’t value dump and chase hockey as much as it advocates run and gun hockey. Ovie is just doing what he does best. I don’t think the others need his cue to know how to position themselves accordingly.
"If you're gonna die after 24, might as well jump out at 23:59, no?"
by Laich It Or Lump It on Nov 4, 2009 11:54 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
does this fall more on AO or more on BB’s system, though? my impression is that BB’s basic high risk, high reward philosophy (defensemen joining the rush, stretching the ice on the PP) inevitably leads to more opposition breakaways. and i think one of BB’s assistants said basically the same thing in an interview recently.
by Natty Bumppo on Nov 4, 2009 9:40 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Speaking of Yzerman, how much of the well-celebrated change in his game was related to his knees? 65 goal Stevie Y was long gone by 95-96. That’s a whole different ball game than “sacrificing statistics” for the “good of the team”. If anything, it was him being smart enough to realize he couldn’t carry the team any more offensively, and contributing in other ways.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Nov 4, 2009 9:10 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
someone can correct me, but I think the knee problems came later. IIRC, they went from bad to completely wrecked (held together with tape, spit, prayer, and Yzerman’s sheer determination to play one more season) very quickly.
by RedBirdie on Nov 4, 2009 10:37 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
what’s wrong with allowing AO to play his game (fearsome, shark-in-the-water, attack-minded hockey) and matching him with defensively responsible linemates? especially as a winger who is expected to get out on the forecheck, i don’t think AO compares well with the centers you’ve referenced. i worry any type of intervention would neuter AO’s offense, and there’s no one in the league as good at his job as AO is at achieving goals.
whenever the “AO doesn’t play defense” conversation comes up, i always think of it as: AO has a role on this team. his role is to score points and create havoc. excelling at that role can help a team as much or more than excelling as a two-way center or penalty killer. they’re just different roles, and those roles have to be defined and assured by the coach.
by Natty Bumppo on Nov 4, 2009 9:48 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Great point re: his position. Wings are not generally thought of as the defensive conscience of the team. True, they should be defensively responsible and wings can be credited for their defensive play (Hossa) or critiqued (Heatley) but the heaviest defensive responsibility is always on the C.
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by Fehr and Balanced on Nov 4, 2009 11:16 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
(Further to that point, look at your Selke winners – one winger since 1991, by my count)
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by J.P. on Nov 4, 2009 11:23 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
But it hasn’t matured to the level Yzerman exhibited in the late 1990’s.
Peerless, I don’t think this is a fair comparison. Yzerman of the late 1990s was considerably older than Ovechkin of 2009. Yzerman changed his game after 10+ years in the NHL.
by RedBirdie on Nov 4, 2009 10:31 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Absolutely correct. Maturity is, by definition, a function of age. But some people, not to mention hockey players, mature faster than others. And in fairness to Ovechkin (to tag on a point JP made above), wingers don’t have the defensive responsibilities, by and large, that centers have. Ovechkin, (or Semin or whomever) even if he applies himself, isn’t going to be the defensive player Yzerman became (even though Yzerman played a good deal on the wing late in his career) without sacrificing large chunks of his offensive game. He can’t defend by virtue of his position as much of the ice unless he goes out of his way to do it.
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by ThePeerless on Nov 4, 2009 11:43 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe it’s just me, but I find LeBrun’s response to the rant more than reasonable.
It’s not just you, I had the same reaction. The point he makes is valid, even if he doesn’t use the examples someone more familiar with the Caps might.
by David M. Getz on Nov 4, 2009 10:50 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Off topic...
Just to mess with JP
Ouch
Ron and Fez 11 to 3
by YvonLabresMoustache on Nov 4, 2009 8:28 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, sucks that ’Cuse is already out of the 65-team November Madness tourney. Wait, what? The game meant nothing? Nevermind.
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by J.P. on Nov 4, 2009 8:41 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Fast forward to March 20th and replace “Le Moyne” with Austin-Peay or similar. ;-)
Russian Machine very rarely breaks.
by macvechkin on Nov 4, 2009 11:29 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Vermont. Heh. And that’s only if those MFers let us into the dance!
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by J.P. on Nov 4, 2009 11:32 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I can at least see where LeBrun’s coming from with the Detroit analogy. He sees a team not playing good enough team defense. I agree on this point. However, I’d rather it be Semin who would be more defense first focus given his skill set. Ovi needs to backcheck better but besides that I’m quite happy. Secondly, Stevie Y was a center. They have more defensive responsibilities in general than a winger does. Third, Stevie was the captain. Our captain has a skill set that is on his best night’s not exactly all-star worthy.
As for the IMG comment I’d prefer Ochocinco answer for me, but I guess I’ll say something. Yeah Ovi is a moron for not paying 10% of his money to an agent for a decade plus. And I’m sure Don Meehan and Newport Sports could get him the type of worldwide marketing deals IMG can.
A man gotta have a code
by CP2Devil on Nov 4, 2009 8:33 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Maybe that’s the reason he was fired, i.e. couldn’t or wasn’t interested in trying to negotiate the marketing deals. As mentioned, he didn’t need anyone to negotiate his NHL contract, as he knew he could pretty much call the shots on that one. So maybe by not doing anything sooner it cost him some money. With what he’s making, so what? And I’ll bet not that much, because the past two MVP years have only enhanced the brand.
by gfcaps fan on Nov 4, 2009 8:37 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Sounds to me like he took a patient approach to finding new representation. A group he was comfortable with. Newport and Meehan are great in contract negotiations, but from what I’ve seen they undervalue their star clients from a marketing standpoint. IMG certainly doesn’t based on what I’ve seen of their current roster.
A man gotta have a code
by CP2Devil on Nov 4, 2009 8:46 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe Ovechkin should hire Bob Sugar. He did wonders for Frank Cushman.
Ron and Fez 11 to 3
by YvonLabresMoustache on Nov 4, 2009 8:50 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It’s not ‘show friends’. It’s ‘show business’.
A man gotta have a code
by CP2Devil on Nov 4, 2009 8:52 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
And he ended up with the hotter chick at the end of the movie…its no contest
Ron and Fez 11 to 3
by YvonLabresMoustache on Nov 4, 2009 8:58 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
By the way, I believe the 10% isn’t exactly correct. I’ve seen the invoicing for a few pro athletes (not NHL), and the % was way lower. It may be a factor of the size of the contract, I have no idea. Do we just assume it’s 10% because that’s the show-biz vernacular?
by gfcaps fan on Nov 4, 2009 9:18 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I believe the industry standard is 10%. I could be wrong about that as I’m not in the agent business. Like anything else you could negotiate for it to be less. I think it also depends on type of representation being offered. Anyone an expert in this area?
A man gotta have a code
by CP2Devil on Nov 4, 2009 9:27 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
My understanding is that on the entertainment (writers, actors, etc.), it’s generally in the 8-10% range, but that in the representation of athletes it’s only around 3 or 4%.
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by J.P. on Nov 4, 2009 9:38 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
What does your agent collect?
"I think the relentless negative coverage in The Washington Post is a real difference from previous years," Redskins general counsel David Donovan said. "But in terms of the way our actual fans are behaving, we don't see any difference."
by Sct112 on Nov 4, 2009 9:41 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
10% of his SBN paycheck I would guess.
"If you're gonna die after 24, might as well jump out at 23:59, no?"
by Laich It Or Lump It on Nov 4, 2009 9:46 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m my own lawyer and agent and have a fool for a client.
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by J.P. on Nov 4, 2009 10:16 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Good, at least someone is making out like a bandit in this scenario.
"I think the relentless negative coverage in The Washington Post is a real difference from previous years," Redskins general counsel David Donovan said. "But in terms of the way our actual fans are behaving, we don't see any difference."
by Sct112 on Nov 4, 2009 10:18 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks. 3-4% some serious coinage, especially when talking about superstar contracts.
A man gotta have a code
by CP2Devil on Nov 4, 2009 9:51 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I think the ones I saw were for 3%.
by gfcaps fan on Nov 4, 2009 9:56 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Sports agents take considerably less because, for the most part, their job is pretty much taken care of every few years per client. Entertainment reps take more because their client’s contracts/gigs turn over more frequently.
Look at most NHL contracts? 2, 3, 4 years each usually?
Directors, Actors, Writers, depending on medium, can enter contract negotiations several times a year. And these days, agents package talent, writers, directors together. Obviously, this is much more work per client than the sports world
I don't care how you score goals. Pretty or ugly. The ballet or the bulldozer. However you do it, just do it. And make sure you do it more than the other guys.
by Holt Worth on Nov 4, 2009 3:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Fixed LeBrun's post
“In my mind, agents — big or small — are needed now more than ever in the NHL to feed inside stories to columnists like me. Now excuse me while I go suck one off.”
by six hole on Nov 4, 2009 9:58 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
wish I’d read your comment before I wrote mine above…
If you've read this far...seek help.
by ThePeerless on Nov 4, 2009 11:44 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’ll be at the game tonight praying for an epic Jersey Foul I know the Tri-State can deliver and chomping down on a
pastrami sandwich while watching the Devils try to keep up with Ovechki – awwwww damn.
…
Come on Brooks Laich!!
I don't care how you score goals. Pretty or ugly. The ballet or the bulldozer. However you do it, just do it. And make sure you do it more than the other guys.
by Holt Worth on Nov 4, 2009 8:34 AM EST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
Go banana!
Maybe play with an edge, be a little more physical -- maybe be more of a prick out there.
by jordanDC on Nov 4, 2009 8:40 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I ate the purple berries… they taste like burning.
"If you're gonna die after 24, might as well jump out at 23:59, no?"
by Laich It Or Lump It on Nov 4, 2009 8:42 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ah, been to long to make a Simpsons reference, but i do plan on drinking red wine out of a diet coke can. No one will ever know!!
I don't care how you score goals. Pretty or ugly. The ballet or the bulldozer. However you do it, just do it. And make sure you do it more than the other guys.
by Holt Worth on Nov 4, 2009 9:07 AM EST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Intervention!
Fight, you time-wasting figure skaters!
by boutros23 on Nov 4, 2009 9:16 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i wonder when a “Red Man” will show up at VC. i would fully back this insanity.
by ns on Nov 4, 2009 10:23 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
?
Maybe play with an edge, be a little more physical -- maybe be more of a prick out there.
by jordanDC on Nov 4, 2009 10:24 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Allegedly there was a Red Man at VC on Halloween.
If consequences dictate the course of action, then it doesn't matter what's right, it's only wrong if you get caught. If consequences dictate the course of action, then I should play God...
by Fehr and Balanced on Nov 4, 2009 11:22 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Frankovic Piece
Not quite what I was expecting… and might be one of the first times I have ever read a piece where I 100% agree with 50% of an article and completely disagree with the other 50%.
To use Ovechkin’s star power and ticket draw as a reason for punishment for the Blue Jackets is absolutely stupid and does nothing to help his reputation around the league when the diciplinarians look the other way on a questionable hit by our star.
However, I have been trumpeting the “retaliation after clean hit” issue for the last 2 years. It’s nothing more than a glorified tantrum because something didn’t go your way. I’d love to see the league fine guys like Hartnell and Chimera/Boll for these types of incidents. Frankovic is completely correct, if you get hit legally, it’s your obligation to return the favor LEGALLY. Hartnell’s takedown after Ovie hit Richards was in no way legal (puck was gone, clear interference). The case on Sunday felt more like Chimera venting frustration over being upended earlier in the week.
The refs have as much to do with this issue as the league does. Hartnell should have clearly been whistled for interference. Chimera and Boll should have both been hit with Instigators, roughing and 10 minute misconducts for the simple fact that it all occurred during a stoppage in play. (Not only that, but toss in 2 more bench minors for having 7 guys on the ice…)
I’m not sure, though, that I agree with the outrage over Hitchcock’s comments. As much as I hate his style of hockey, and think he’s just a blowhard, I don’t take offense to what he said. Afterall, it’s same sentiment compared what Ovie said when he was asked why he seems to be going after Malkin. The only thing I do agree with is it needs to be done legally. Which in this case, it was not.
Lastly, a comment related to a post above. There is strategic benefit in having someone with Ovie’s talent “cherrypicking…” Removal of the 2 line pass allows us to use his skill and threat to keep opposing defenders honest. I honestly believe it’s part of BB’s system as a strategic move to keep opposing defenders from setting up closer to the net. When’s the last time you saw a D man swoop in close ala Mike Green vs Ovie’s line?
by FFSEnough on Nov 4, 2009 9:15 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Hartnell’s takedown after Ovie hit Richards was in no way legal (puck was gone, clear interference)
I can’t believe the Refs didn’t call anything there. He WWE tackled Ov, and held him down
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by Sombrero Guy on Nov 4, 2009 9:37 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
60% of the time, it works every time.
If consequences dictate the course of action, then it doesn't matter what's right, it's only wrong if you get caught. If consequences dictate the course of action, then I should play God...
by Fehr and Balanced on Nov 4, 2009 11:24 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
95% of the time, Russian Machine never breaks.
Russian Machine very rarely breaks.
by macvechkin on Nov 4, 2009 11:31 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
And now that I've read your whole comment
I definitely agree that a lot of the blame is on the refs for not keeping control of the game. I also think it’s a great point about AO stretching the ice and keeping opposing D farther from our net. That opens up more room for everyone, and makes the breakout a little easier (though we still are pretty bad at it when our one-man-breakout isn’t on the ice).
If consequences dictate the course of action, then it doesn't matter what's right, it's only wrong if you get caught. If consequences dictate the course of action, then I should play God...
by Fehr and Balanced on Nov 4, 2009 11:27 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I know we say this every year, but the officiating has been terribly inconsistent from game to game (sometimes period to period!), for every team. There is a rulebook that says XYZ are not allowed, they are penalties (of various degrees), and the officials are paid to enforce this rulebook. They’re not. And if they’re not going to enforce the rules that everyone has agreed to, what’s the point of having them out on the ice?
by RedBirdie on Nov 4, 2009 11:31 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Such is the price of subjective officiating. If they don’t see it live, it won’t get called.
"I'm just doing karate and trying to get females pregnant."
by Bald Pollack on Nov 4, 2009 1:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
To use Ovechkin’s star power and ticket draw as a reason for punishment for the Blue Jackets is absolutely stupid and does nothing to help his reputation around the league when the diciplinarians look the other way on a questionable hit by our star.
Totally agree. If we start doling out punishment (from on-ice calls to off-ice suspensions) based on a player’s perceived market value, the NHL is headed for the pits faster than you can say “double standard”. Isn’t this the basis for a lot of the anti-Crosby sentiment? Just what we need, a Nielsen rating-based punishment system.
by Whisp on Nov 4, 2009 11:31 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Punishment this season for hits much more violent and illegal than what the Don did vs NYR last year are what is really irritating the crap out of me.
by FFSEnough on Nov 4, 2009 11:33 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Your lack of an avatar is irritating the crap out of all of us.
Maybe play with an edge, be a little more physical -- maybe be more of a prick out there.
by jordanDC on Nov 4, 2009 11:33 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He’s civilly disobeying.
Russian Machine very rarely breaks.
by macvechkin on Nov 4, 2009 11:35 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
this.
In addition:
doesn’t translate as well in 32×32.
no offense taken, jordanDC.
by FFSEnough on Nov 4, 2009 12:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
wonder why that didn’t show up.
Test:
by FFSEnough on Nov 4, 2009 12:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
aww hell, y’all just have to click the URL.
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_jcFwXlyQy9g/RdjD25laOzI/AAAAAAAAAIk/G6uqwIdpCyQ/s1600-h/JurMal.jpg
by FFSEnough on Nov 4, 2009 12:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
looks painful…
Because now I can justify browsing and commenting during the work day with the argument that I am promoting my business.
by Sombrero Guy on Nov 4, 2009 12:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
…and illegal.
If consequences dictate the course of action, then it doesn't matter what's right, it's only wrong if you get caught. If consequences dictate the course of action, then I should play God...
by Fehr and Balanced on Nov 4, 2009 12:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
the player being hit could have turned as the hit occurred…
Because now I can justify browsing and commenting during the work day with the argument that I am promoting my business.
by Sombrero Guy on Nov 4, 2009 12:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Could have.
If consequences dictate the course of action, then it doesn't matter what's right, it's only wrong if you get caught. If consequences dictate the course of action, then I should play God...
by Fehr and Balanced on Nov 4, 2009 12:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
F&B, now that’s an avatar that works at 32×32...
Not sure I understand the illegal part. But it was that hit that I replay in my head every time I need a juice-pick me up. Breaking the glass with Malkin’s body makes me smile.
by FFSEnough on Nov 4, 2009 12:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m not questioning any emotional satisfaction from watching black and gold smeared on the glass. I’m just saying it’s pretty blatantly from behind. Odds Juice catches a guy that sees him coming?
If consequences dictate the course of action, then it doesn't matter what's right, it's only wrong if you get caught. If consequences dictate the course of action, then I should play God...
by Fehr and Balanced on Nov 4, 2009 12:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Just prior to the splat:
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_jcFwXlyQy9g/RdjD8JlaO0I/AAAAAAAAAIs/EyUhN52ok1M/s1600-h/JurMal2.jpg
by FFSEnough on Nov 4, 2009 12:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Needs MS Paint
And the contact is still from behind.
If consequences dictate the course of action, then it doesn't matter what's right, it's only wrong if you get caught. If consequences dictate the course of action, then I should play God...
by Fehr and Balanced on Nov 4, 2009 12:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Lets lobby SBN to allow for whatever size avatars would be necessary to make that one work.
Maybe play with an edge, be a little more physical -- maybe be more of a prick out there.
by jordanDC on Nov 4, 2009 12:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Whoa, whoa, whoa — there’s a line between cajoling in a humorous way and really going after someone. We’d prefer that folks have an avatar, but it’s not a requirement or anything. I know you were just quoting his post, but that was a bit harsh.
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Nov 4, 2009 11:36 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Gimme a break, I’m clearly joking.
Maybe play with an edge, be a little more physical -- maybe be more of a prick out there.
by jordanDC on Nov 4, 2009 11:37 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You were clearly intending to joke (as I pointed out). The execution, not so much.
“Your poorly framed attempt at humor irritates the crap out of me” — does that really sound like a joke?
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Nov 4, 2009 11:41 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I get jumped on no matter what I post. I’m going to just stop contributing.
Maybe play with an edge, be a little more physical -- maybe be more of a prick out there.
by jordanDC on Nov 4, 2009 11:45 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
GOOD!!!!
The fact you contribute irritates the crap out of me.
HA
FWIW: I thought your comment was funny.
"I think the relentless negative coverage in The Washington Post is a real difference from previous years," Redskins general counsel David Donovan said. "But in terms of the way our actual fans are behaving, we don't see any difference."
by Sct112 on Nov 4, 2009 11:46 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Too bad Grampy Stuffydrawers doesn’t agree.
Maybe play with an edge, be a little more physical -- maybe be more of a prick out there.
by jordanDC on Nov 4, 2009 12:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
you are a fool.
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Nov 4, 2009 12:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
NO U
Maybe play with an edge, be a little more physical -- maybe be more of a prick out there.
by jordanDC on Nov 4, 2009 12:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Just drop the gloves already.
"If you're gonna die after 24, might as well jump out at 23:59, no?"
by Laich It Or Lump It on Nov 4, 2009 12:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Wait! How much time is left in the period? Who else is on the ice? WHAT KIND OF UNDERPANTS AM I WEARING?!?! Nah, someone else will take care of it.
If consequences dictate the course of action, then it doesn't matter what's right, it's only wrong if you get caught. If consequences dictate the course of action, then I should play God...
by Fehr and Balanced on Nov 4, 2009 12:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Way to go, ShaMo.
"If you're gonna die after 24, might as well jump out at 23:59, no?"
by Laich It Or Lump It on Nov 4, 2009 12:48 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
LeBrun’s on a roll. Regarding AO’s new deal with IMG for representation he writes, “It has to be a bit of an acknowledgment that Ovechkin and his family made a mistake to part ways with [former agent Don] Meehan.” Really?
Yeah pretty stupid comment. Ovechkin negotiated a better deal that Sid or Malkin without paying an agent to do so. Hiring representation for corporate endorsement money at this point makes perfect sense.
Because now I can justify browsing and commenting during the work day with the argument that I am promoting my business.
by Sombrero Guy on Nov 4, 2009 9:39 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I assume Ovie’s contract doesn’t contain much in terms of deferred payments or anything else that would need much more than a lawyer to review the final contract. It’s not like he has a lot of variation in salary and the CBA disallows things like option years, performance bonuses, voidable years, and even has a maximum salary limit. Ovechkin probably didn’t do much other than name his price. And I believe his mom represented him for all of his RSL contracts as well.
by apk3000 on Nov 4, 2009 10:02 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t believe the NHL allows deferred payments or anything of the like. The contract is what the contract is
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by Sombrero Guy on Nov 4, 2009 10:13 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The CBA does seem to allow deferring payments after the expiration of a contract. If you defer within the contract period, it gets counted on the cap in that year.
by apk3000 on Nov 4, 2009 11:19 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Nylander's 2 weeks up?
Today right? What now? More sitting around and waiting……
by 718CapsFan on Nov 4, 2009 9:58 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I’d hit that.
Russian Machine very rarely breaks.
by macvechkin on Nov 4, 2009 11:20 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
So would I.
Signed,
E. Murphy
"I'm just doing karate and trying to get females pregnant."
by Bald Pollack on Nov 4, 2009 11:28 AM EST up reply actions 5 recs
Nice body. They weren’t kidding when they said Nyles came to camp in the best shape of his life.
Of all our iniquities ignorance may be the worst
by Killer_Carlson on Nov 4, 2009 2:03 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
And look how fast his hair grew out!
by mercurialwinger on Nov 4, 2009 2:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Offtopic:
Three of the next six games are on CSN+? Really? I understand that basketball is “back” and “Agent Zero” is all healed up, but we’re still talking about the Wizards. The Caps clearly outdrew the Wizards in viewing audience last season, so why are we getting short straw?
Ok, I’ve looked at the numbers, and it appears that both teams are getting 14 games on the terrible channel, but it’s still ludicrous that either team is forced in standard definition. It’s almost 2010! 2010! We should have spacecars and robot butlers (not just vacuums) by now, let alone every cable sporting event in HD.
Is it really that difficult for COMCAST to set up a second HD channel on their own network? Is it bandwidth they aren’t willing to give up?
Sadly, half of these same games are being shown in HD on another (usually Canadian) channel.
by TFG on Nov 4, 2009 9:58 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
My sentiments exactly. I got called an “HD Snob” for getting mad about being demoted to CSN+ for the Isles game last week. Some people just don’t understand.
"If you're gonna die after 24, might as well jump out at 23:59, no?"
by Laich It Or Lump It on Nov 4, 2009 10:02 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I won’t even go into how half the games are just widescreen and not even HD, but at least widescreen allows you to pretend it’s of good quality.
by TFG on Nov 4, 2009 10:06 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yea, “fake HD” bugs me too. One of the few bonuses of watching NBC hockey coverage is that the major broadcast networks always have quality HD.
"If you're gonna die after 24, might as well jump out at 23:59, no?"
by Laich It Or Lump It on Nov 4, 2009 10:08 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Not just that, but the lighting and sound generally is really good. Same for Versus, but the NBC picture looks terrific on the, if you’re familiar with EA Sports’ NHL series (who isn’t?), “broadcast” view.
by red army line on Nov 4, 2009 1:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
+20. I was just going through that the other day. Do the Buzzards really still score a better rating than the Caps?
Better idea, all HD all the time? It’s 3 years until the end of the world, already!
Russian Machine very rarely breaks.
by macvechkin on Nov 4, 2009 11:33 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Better idea, all HD all the time
This please. I’m looking at you Comedy Central…
"If you're gonna die after 24, might as well jump out at 23:59, no?"
by Laich It Or Lump It on Nov 4, 2009 11:59 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
One of the rare times when I’m happy to be an out of towner. I’ll watch the MSG HD feed most likely. I can deal with Doc & Chico.
A man gotta have a code
by CP2Devil on Nov 4, 2009 11:49 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I have the same “luxury” but it’s truly going to be a test whether I can tolerate Emrick or stretched SD.
Russian Machine very rarely breaks.
by macvechkin on Nov 4, 2009 12:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Chico is one of the worst color guys in the league. But I can’t blame you for going with the HD.
If consequences dictate the course of action, then it doesn't matter what's right, it's only wrong if you get caught. If consequences dictate the course of action, then I should play God...
by Fehr and Balanced on Nov 4, 2009 12:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Kind of funny though – when people watch the Caps with me for the first time, the sound of Locker’s voice makes them want to scream. Me, I like it.
Russian Machine very rarely breaks.
by macvechkin on Nov 4, 2009 12:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I hated it when I first moved to DC. Now I can live with it. I absolutely won’t go to bat too hard for Locker though, and I totally understand when people don’t like his work as a color guy. I don’t think he’s great or terrible – just middle of the pack.
If consequences dictate the course of action, then it doesn't matter what's right, it's only wrong if you get caught. If consequences dictate the course of action, then I should play God...
by Fehr and Balanced on Nov 4, 2009 12:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I know someone who unerringly refers to Locker as “Donald Duck.”
"Camaraderie, that's what the Washington Capitals are all about."
by CapitalCentre on Nov 4, 2009 3:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I tend to find Chico more amusing than annoying. Not any great shakes and not the most knowledgeable by any stretch. I now take same the approach when watching a TB game with Chief. He is what he is.
If nothing else Chico is less annoying to me than Tripp, Eddie O., Errey, Pang, or Brickley when he’s on NESN.
A man gotta have a code
by CP2Devil on Nov 4, 2009 3:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I assume it has more to do with CSN paying for “exclusive broadcast rights” than anything else. In the past, these CSN+ games would be on Channel 20 or 50. Of course, they could always reach some sort of agreement with MASN, but you’ll probably see “Jeff Schultz – Caps Insider Favorite” before that happens.
by apk3000 on Nov 4, 2009 10:13 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
MASN is not much better. They have only one HD channel and secondary programming is pushed to the MASN2, which is standard def. Of course there is no baseball this time of year, so I guess that wouldn’t matter, but I just wanted to continue the HD complaints.
"If you're gonna die after 24, might as well jump out at 23:59, no?"
by Laich It Or Lump It on Nov 4, 2009 10:15 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yep, just as bad, and not that I’m a big baseball fan, but I was more than bummed when I actually did want to watch and the game was pushed to CSN+/MASN2.
I imagine it happened more often considering the length of the MLB season.
by TFG on Nov 4, 2009 10:22 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Caps are still on contracts they negotiated when they weren’t very good, but you’d have to think in the near future that they’re going to have more negotiating leverage because of their greatly increased popularity.
Everything I’ve seen from Leonsis suggests that he’s going to use that leverage more for ensuring a good experience than for just making more money. I certainly hope he can put HD requirements and the like in the next set of contracts.
Now, about that Verizon Center ice…
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Nov 4, 2009 11:39 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I heard it’s not good.
Maybe play with an edge, be a little more physical -- maybe be more of a prick out there.
by jordanDC on Nov 4, 2009 11:40 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If it was a problem, I’m sure the media would be talking about it.
"If you're gonna die after 24, might as well jump out at 23:59, no?"
by Laich It Or Lump It on Nov 4, 2009 12:01 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Totally not related, but it’s funny that the VC has one of the snazziest arena jumbotrons around (in HD no less), but a good chunk of the TV broadcasts of the teams that play in the arena are crap. CSN+ and their UD (Underwater Definition) broadcasts are shameful.
by Cluster on Nov 4, 2009 3:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Who's in net?
Any idea yet?
Maybe play with an edge, be a little more physical -- maybe be more of a prick out there.
by jordanDC on Nov 4, 2009 11:07 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
According to Corey’s tweets its Varly. He also says Elias is out for tonight.
A man gotta have a code
by CP2Devil on Nov 4, 2009 12:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Odd, that. Lemaire was prepared to play him based on Elias’ skating in practice. The player deemed himself not ready for duty. Boudreau is going to have to take a gun to Ovechkin to keep him off the ice.
If you've read this far...seek help.
by ThePeerless on Nov 4, 2009 1:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Completely overlooked in all this
Pick SPG is actually a game again! It had quickly morphed into “Pick P”.
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by macvechkin on Nov 4, 2009 11:21 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I’m going to generalize for a bit….
I still say the Caps problems are that they have gotten away from the forechecking aspect of the Boudreau system. I’d love to watch game tapes of the Middle of 2007-2008 campaign and compare the tenacity of the fore check with the game the Caps are playing now. Other teans are pinning the caps int their own zone the way the Caps used to pin their opponents. The Caps entire offensive focus seems to have shifted to scoring on the rush rather than a combination of tenacious forechecking and offensive skill on the rush.
Look at the Power Play. All a team has to do is stack the blue line and the Caps have extreme difficulty getting into the zone. The way to beat that is dump and chase but the forwards need to enter the zone with speed to beat the D to the puck. The Caps PP unit got so accustomed to having the puck carrier enter the Zone with the puck they seem clueless when it doesn’t work.
All of this should be very easily fixable, and to be honest losing Ovechkin for a week or two could be the best thing to happen to the team as a whole because it might force them to re focus on the aspects that have been lacking thus far this season
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by Sombrero Guy on Nov 4, 2009 11:27 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
No need to go back to mid ‘07-’08 – just watch opening night in Boston. Where has that forechecking effort been?
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by J.P. on Nov 4, 2009 11:34 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
they came out looking like they were going to steamroll the rest of the league. I’d like those Caps to please come back. I don’t do this “Cardiac Caps, let’s try and blow a 4 goal lead in the 3rd!” brand of hockey so well.
by RedBirdie on Nov 4, 2009 11:37 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
great point, I guess I was focusing on a time when that forechecking effort was on display for games at a time, rather than periods at a time.
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by Sombrero Guy on Nov 4, 2009 11:52 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Amen
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by J.P. on Nov 4, 2009 12:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Offense is skill, defense is will.
I just made that up.
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by ThePeerless on Nov 4, 2009 1:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
… and Housley is Phil.
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by J.P. on Nov 4, 2009 1:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
But all will and no skill leaveth us fans ill.
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by macvechkin on Nov 4, 2009 1:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Eh, it’s early November, so we can all just chill.
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by J.P. on Nov 4, 2009 1:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Come playoff time, here’s hoping they thrill.
"I'm just doing karate and trying to get females pregnant."
by Bald Pollack on Nov 4, 2009 1:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hope Crosby takes his morning-after pill?
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by macvechkin on Nov 4, 2009 2:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Last season, wish we coulda picked up Bill..
Maybe play with an edge, be a little more physical -- maybe be more of a prick out there.
by jordanDC on Nov 4, 2009 2:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Coulda probably even used a Hal Gill.
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by J.P. on Nov 4, 2009 2:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Couldn’t have made mistakes worse than our own Schultzy’s spill.
Maybe play with an edge, be a little more physical -- maybe be more of a prick out there.
by jordanDC on Nov 4, 2009 2:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t think fans could have been more shrill…
"I'm just doing karate and trying to get females pregnant."
by Bald Pollack on Nov 4, 2009 2:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Confidence in that youngster dropped to nil.
Maybe play with an edge, be a little more physical -- maybe be more of a prick out there.
by jordanDC on Nov 4, 2009 2:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Of this I have had my fill.
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by ThePeerless on Nov 4, 2009 5:30 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Ha. Nifty advertising article.
And it’s nice to see Flash on the first line for tonight—hopefully he keeps up his recent play.
"My face is my mask."
by jakeshapiro on Nov 4, 2009 12:00 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Tom Poti has become one of those frustrating, enigmatic guys on the Caps’ roster who can make a great defensive play one minute and then have a complete meltdown the next, which is a rather surprising development given that he was rock solid for most of last season and he is, of course, a seasoned veteran. His high ice time comes down to the simple fact that he’s the most veteran of a young group of blueliners and is an active part of both the power play and penalty kill.
I said it last season and I’ll say it again. Everywhere Poti has played his best year was his first year with the team (save for his rookie year, his soph year was his best year in EDM). I cannot hope hard enough that he isn’t on this team next year. He has regressed every year he’s been with us.
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by Fehr and Balanced on Nov 4, 2009 12:09 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I said it the other day and I’ll say it again: Tom Poti has never been missed by a team after he left.
Hate on, brother F&B.
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by macvechkin on Nov 4, 2009 12:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
NHL officials were sent memos at the beginning of the season, reinforcing the importance of identifying instigators when the occasion calls for it. One of the most blatant circumstances is fights following clean hits. NHL Director of Officiating Terry Gregson says, "if a player seeks to hand out his own form of justice and his actions meet the criteria, it must be called."
Calling the instigator for the sake of calling the instigator is absolutely stupid, but it looks like that’s what the NHL is doing. How they are unable to even apply this simple standard (fight after clean hit = instigator) is beyond me. These people are so inept. I’ve seen a few instigators this year, and most of them were of the undeserved variety. They call it on a fight after a dirty hit (Yandle got an instigator for fighting after a hit that the NHL suspended Wisniewski for; the classic example of a necessary and legal NHL fight) but they don’t call instigators when people start fights after clean hits (still!). Oh, and how’s that work with the head shots going? Talk is cheap.
NHL, I wish I could quit you.
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by Fehr and Balanced on Nov 4, 2009 12:15 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I wish the Caps could quit them. And go join some league that’s run in a sensible way.
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Nov 4, 2009 12:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I posted my irritations about the extremely uneven officiating in another thread. I just can’t figure it out. There’s a rule book. The officials are paid to be the rule book enforcers. And yet they are consistently failing at this every single night.
by RedBirdie on Nov 4, 2009 12:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’ll put down cold hard cash that Semin is the first Young Gun to wear another NHL jersey. Not exactly going out on a limb, I know, but it is looking more likely that he doesn’t stay with the Caps long term everyday.
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by Fehr and Balanced on Nov 4, 2009 12:20 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
You’re in trouble if he goes to the KHL!
Maybe play with an edge, be a little more physical -- maybe be more of a prick out there.
by jordanDC on Nov 4, 2009 12:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I highly doubt he goes to the KHL so soon. But who knows what is going through that guy’s head.
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by Fehr and Balanced on Nov 4, 2009 12:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m all for replacing Semin at the end of the season only if it means we add another piece to replace him. It doesn’t have to be someone who will but up the same point totals, but maybe one or two guys who work hard, chip in some offense and have some playoff experience. And no, Tomas Fleischmann alone would not be an acceptable Semin replacement.
by Kolzilla on Nov 4, 2009 1:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Can I put Brendan Shanahan in a time machine? Or Cam Neely?
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by ThePeerless on Nov 4, 2009 1:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You’d put Shanny in Neely? Ewww…
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by J.P. on Nov 4, 2009 1:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It wouldn’t be my first choice…
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by ThePeerless on Nov 4, 2009 5:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Bruce wins today’s “Thanks for that stunning update, Captain Obvious!” award. From CI:
“[Alex] said he’s feeling better today, a lot better today,” Boudreau said. “I was excited about that. I don’t know how much better ‘a lot better’ is. But he’s telling me he felt a lot better today. That’s a positive sign. I think he’s getting bored not practicing.”
on the other hand, Bruce continues to beat the drum that Alex won’t be allowed back until he’s not longer at risk to re-injure himself.
Asked if there are any concerns that Ovechkin may try to rush himself back into the lineup considering his high threshold for pain and history of playing through injuries, Boudreau said the team will protect the winger from himself — if it comes to that.
“We’ve got a pretty good medical staff here,” Boudreau said. “We want to guard against that. At the same time, there’s nothing coaches and managers love more than a player who wants to get back sooner than his injury has supposedly called for. But we will make sure when he steps on the ice that there’s no chance of him hurting the same injury.”
by RedBirdie on Nov 4, 2009 2:15 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Reality check: Ovechkin will decide when Ovechkin will play again.
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by J.P. on Nov 4, 2009 2:17 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Ugh, I sure hope not. Nothing worse than when a coach or manager decides to “take a player’s word for it” that he feels fine.
by Kolzilla on Nov 4, 2009 2:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
According to the “Hockey Diaries” thing, Laich never informed Boudreau of a fracture in his foot in the season before last (I believe). What coach doesn’t know won’t hurt him. :)
by TFG on Nov 4, 2009 2:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yep. Listening to that portion, I vividly remember sitting in the stands watching Laich block that shot and grit his way to the bench. Unbelievable.
That said, what a stupid eff’ing thing to do, continue to play on a spiderwebbed ankle.
by RedBirdie on Nov 4, 2009 2:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Guy is tough as nails. Now, let’s see him show it with the gloves off.
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by Fehr and Balanced on Nov 4, 2009 2:35 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
That was last season, not the one before.
Like RedBirdie, I rmember that very clearly. He’s lucky there wasn’t any permanent damage. Assuming there wasn’t, that is.
by gfcaps fan on Nov 4, 2009 5:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Reality check: Ovechkin will decide when Ovechkin willplay againcome off the ice.
If consequences dictate the course of action, then it doesn't matter what's right, it's only wrong if you get caught. If consequences dictate the course of action, then I should play God...
by Fehr and Balanced on Nov 4, 2009 2:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It would be nice if the Caps a leader type, a “capain” if you will, who could talk to Ovie about how to be a little smarter and make the team even better.
by Kolzilla on Nov 4, 2009 2:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Truer words have never been written.
A man gotta have a code
by CP2Devil on Nov 4, 2009 3:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Russian Machine make diagnosis.
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by ThePeerless on Nov 4, 2009 5:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Nylander has been recalled by the Caps, per http://theahl.com/stats/transactions.php
by TFG on Nov 4, 2009 2:19 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Speaking of Nylander the guys over at PPP are trying to find a new center for Kessel and are saying they should legitimately check out Nylander. If I’m GMGM I’d be on the phone with burke and hopefully we can once and for all get rid of him (although who knows if Nylander would be willing to go there)
by i12swim on Nov 4, 2009 2:29 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
At this point I think anywhere in the NHL would be a pleasant surprise for Nylander. But the Leafs have less than 1.5M in cap space, I believe.
by David M. Getz on Nov 4, 2009 2:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
only 1.5 left? Does everyone have Jeff Finger-esque salaries up there?
by RedBirdie on Nov 4, 2009 2:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
they are less than a month away from affording him, if we do the re-entry 50/50 thing.
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by macvechkin on Nov 4, 2009 2:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
But then you’re stuck with 2.4 million in dead space next year.
by David M. Getz on Nov 4, 2009 3:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
NMC expires….actual contract is $3M for the season…
they’d have options.
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by macvechkin on Nov 4, 2009 3:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Cap hit is the same for the life of the contract, regardless of payout per individual year. If the Caps let Nyls get picked up on re-entry waivers they pay half his pro-rated cap hit this year, and half his cap hit next year. That’s all dead space, and considering how much the Clymer dead space ended up mattering, I don’t think they’ll want 2+ mill in dead space.
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by Fehr and Balanced on Nov 4, 2009 3:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Wouldn’t be dead space, only eating his $3M if they put him in minors. Who knows, he could even be playing for them.
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by macvechkin on Nov 4, 2009 4:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
By dead space I mean paying players that aren’t playing for you. Giving up Nyls on re-entry waivers would create dead space.
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by Fehr and Balanced on Nov 4, 2009 4:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Nylander for Toskala straight up. Then we stash Toskala in HER or SC or wherever for the rest of the year.
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by Fehr and Balanced on Nov 4, 2009 2:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
hey, throwing in a couple free admission passes to the HHOF, and I’m cool with that.
by RedBirdie on Nov 4, 2009 2:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe play with an edge, be a little more physical -- maybe be more of a prick out there.
by jordanDC on Nov 4, 2009 3:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I thought beach balls were only allowed in play during EPL games.
A man gotta have a code
by CP2Devil on Nov 4, 2009 3:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
What’s your take on this “the bankers would never let Ted do that” argument on PPP?
Ted Leonsis was surprisingly transparent at the trade deadline last year in saying many teams bankers (bankers!) won’t permit clubs to bury massive salaries in the minors.
I don’t remember hearing anything about this, do you?
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by Fehr and Balanced on Nov 4, 2009 3:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If consequences dictate the course of action, then it doesn't matter what's right, it's only wrong if you get caught. If consequences dictate the course of action, then I should play God...
by Fehr and Balanced on Nov 4, 2009 4:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That’s so much of a win-win, that I can’t see it happening.
by gfcaps fan on Nov 4, 2009 5:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Where are we going to stash him when there are only two holes in HER and they’re currently occupied by Neuvy (possible goalie of future) and Bacashihua (who is tearing it up)?
"Let the rest be scared of us." - Sasha Semin
by Scott in Shaw on Nov 4, 2009 5:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Verbatim response from PPP
I have no idea if we’re allowed to send him to South Carolina, but that’s a potential option (if a huge slap in the face). I also think that until he plays a game for Hershey he can be loaned to any AHL team so we don’t necessarily have to limit our options to Hershey. Cash is off to a hot start but I’m not really sold that he’ll be the guy in Hershey at any point this year. He’s going to be the back up regardless, and we still have Holtby looming so even if we move Cash to make a spot for Toskala it doesn’t leave us without a viable (read Non-Toskala) option should Neuvirth get injured or called up.
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by Fehr and Balanced on Nov 4, 2009 5:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m not sure you can send NHL guys to the ECHL, so I think to do this you’d have to send Cash to SC. He’s not a prospect, so I guess that’d be okay, but you might piss off Holtby, who probably wishes he was in HER and wouldn’t like to see us stashing some other dude there.
"Let the rest be scared of us." - Sasha Semin
by Scott in Shaw on Nov 4, 2009 5:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
just skimming/reading for the first time today, sorry if this is not the question being asked, but if you are asking about assigning NHL contracted players to the ECHL, if they are not on an entry level contract, the player has to agree to the assignment. Then again, it says East Coast Hockey League in the CBA, not ECHL, ha ha
I don’t recall if back when Irbe was assigned to the ECHL by Carolina whether that rule was in effect and he agreed or if it is new with this CBA
by sk84fun_dc on Nov 4, 2009 6:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think Holtby probably understands the situation. I don’t think he’d be that pissed about it. Cash would be the backup in SC; he’s not in HER because he’s better than Holtby. Holtby knows he’s in SC to get regular starts. I don’t see this situation having much impact on him.
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by Fehr and Balanced on Nov 4, 2009 7:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Good point.
"Let the rest be scared of us." - Sasha Semin
by Scott in Shaw on Nov 5, 2009 3:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
How many contracts do the Caps have. Moving Nylander for a distant draft pick (13th round, whatever….yeah, I know they don’t go that far) might free up a contract slot if they wanted to move, say, draft picks, for a deadline pick up?
Or have I screwed something up in the NHL mission rules here?
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by ThePeerless on Nov 4, 2009 5:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think the Caps would love to move Nyls for a distant draft pick. I just don’t think anyone would buy that. To move Nyls the Caps are either going to have to take back on another bad K (which is why I suggest Toskala) or sweeten the deal with high pick(s) and prospect(s). I don’t think GMGM wants to deplete the farm just to move Nyls so I think we are stuck with a) Nyls going to another league or b) GMGM taking on a bad contract that can be stashed in the AHL. As far as b) it depends on how much Ted is willing to pay out to non-participating players. I suspect that Ted would be willing to pay a bad contract to a guy in HER if he’s willing to pay a bad contract to a guy in the press box, but I got a lot of push back on that issue from the folks at PPP.
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by Fehr and Balanced on Nov 4, 2009 7:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
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Washington
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21 | 13 | 4 | 4 | 30 |
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Tampa Bay
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19 | 8 | 4 | 7 | 23 |
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Atlanta
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18 | 10 | 6 | 2 | 22 |
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Florida
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19 | 8 | 9 | 2 | 18 |
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Carolina
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21 | 4 | 12 | 5 | 13 |
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