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[In today's edition of Sport-Express, Slava Malamud catches up with Alex Ovechkin to see if he can get some insight into his injury. There are no earth-shattering revelations, except that maybe the entire Russian Olympic team has been jinxed.]

Sounding the alarm isn't really included among the duties of a sports reporter, but since we aren't afraid to jinx things with praise, well.... basically, at the rate they are going Russia will need to send to Vancouver an Olympic team made up of some KHL clubs, a medical team from a medium-sized hospital and a shaman from the Republic of Sakha. (come on, I know you meant a Tuvan shaman, Slava- TH). I can only call the adversity inflicted upon the potential Olympians as nothing else but unprecedented.

It hasn't even been a month since the start of the NHL regular season and  injuries have already claimed Andrei Markov (torn tendon- out for several months), Sergei Gonchar (wrist- out at least until December), Ilya Kovalchuk (broken bone in foot, not expected to return before the end of November), and Evgeni Malkin (sprained shoulder- out two to three weeks). Such trifles as Alexander Semin's illness (exactly what it was they will not say, but it is well-known that the team did have a case of the swine flu), which caused him to sit out a couple of games, are not even worth mentioning.

And now, during a Sunday game in the U.S. Capital, that very thing which the Russians have had enough of happened again. It is difficult to say exactly when it happened. Perhaps at the beginning of the second period, when Ovechkin skated by Jason Chimera and the latter nudged the former with his shoulder. Apparently that was in retaliation for when the Russian boarded the Canadian forward during the first period. Ovechkin shoved Chimera with his hands, a scuffle ensued, during which Alexander was grabbed and dragged, and finally he went to the penalty box, lightly supporting his left arm. Coming out on the ice, he collided in the offensive zone with Raffi Torres, fell to the ice and grimaced in pain and immediately came off the ice and went to the locker room. He missed the rest of the game.

If you assess the situation solely on appearances, you could assume that Alexander injured his left arm or shoulder. After the game he talked a bit with the press and gave an interview to Sport Express.

Alexander, what happened? Were you injured by Chimera, Torres or somebody else?

"I can't say. I can't even discuss the exact moment in order to not divulge what exactly my injury is."

Then can you at least give the official version-is it upper or lower body?

"Upper body."

How serious does it feel?

"I don't know, but I would say that it is "day-to-day". I'm going in for some tests tomorrow and then everything will be clear."

What's happening to all the Olympic team players? You guys are just having some bad luck.

"I can't understand it myself. Perhaps some girl has put a hex on us."

Yesterday afternoon Moscow time Ovechkin underwent testing, after which he confirmed to your Sport Express reporter that his injury is not very serious.

"They'll give a more exact diagnosis later" said Alexander "but the doctors said that there is no serious damage."

Can you give some estimation of when you might return?

"It's 100 percent that I'll miss the next game, and then we'll see."

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Epic liink list this morning.

It was only a matter of time before OV took a semi-serious injury. The way he throws (threw?) his body around, it was coming sooner or later. He’ll be out for as long as he’s out, and the team can learn to play team-oriented hockey on a nightly basis. Be good for them.

To my sleep-deprived eyes, the layout of the Rink looks different this morning…

"You're gonna eat that g**d**n Koho, three!"

by fat_daddyo on Nov 3, 2009 6:47 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Whoa…death to double spacing policies implemented, it seems.
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What, we running out of bandwidth?

"You're gonna eat that g**d**n Koho, three!"

by fat_daddyo on Nov 3, 2009 6:48 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Just got word from support that “The double spacing in comments is definitely our top priority this morning. We will be fixing as soon as we possibly can.”

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by J.P. on Nov 3, 2009 9:58 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Nice. Unanticipated responsiveness is always a bonus.

Test.
 
Test2

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by fat_daddyo on Nov 3, 2009 10:05 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Looks like it’s still a work in progress.
 
My workaround for now involves putting a [space bar] “character” in the place you want to have a double space.

"You're gonna eat that g**d**n Koho, three!"

by fat_daddyo on Nov 3, 2009 10:07 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, a bit of a facelift. I strongly urge anyone with any thoughts or comments on it to drop an email to support@sbnation.com (for example, on the double-spacing issue).

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by J.P. on Nov 3, 2009 7:08 AM EST via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

There is changing to improve something and changing to change. The latter isn’t always a bad thing, although generally I’m not fond of it. If it is the former, what was it intended to improve?

If you've read this far...seek help.

by ThePeerless on Nov 3, 2009 8:09 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

My understanding is that it’s an effort to make posts more readable and a first step in a project to improve load time. I’m not crazy about the look yet, but I’m not sure if that’s a dislike or just a shock over change.

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by J.P. on Nov 3, 2009 8:19 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I’m guessing the latter. I was cheesed when the WaPo shrunk it’s print edition.

If you've read this far...seek help.

by ThePeerless on Nov 3, 2009 8:27 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

It’s pretty broken. Your main logo in the top corner (peanut butter) is covering up the headline of the article.

As a web designer, it troubles me.

Maybe play with an edge, be a little more physical -- maybe be more of a prick out there.

by jordanDC on Nov 3, 2009 8:29 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

main logo in the top corner is covering up the headline

Same here. I thought it was my ad-blocker’s fault, but sounds like not.

by Uncle C on Nov 3, 2009 9:04 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Please help the cause and drop the tech folks an email with the problem (screen cap, too, if possible).

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by J.P. on Nov 3, 2009 9:11 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Will do.

Maybe play with an edge, be a little more physical -- maybe be more of a prick out there.

by jordanDC on Nov 3, 2009 9:12 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I miss the dark blue…

Atta dinnin stick a who!

by Gould Old Days on Nov 3, 2009 9:12 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I miss the contrast that colors provided. White is so hard on the eyes

by renstar on Nov 3, 2009 9:13 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Make your voice heard! support@sbnation.com

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by J.P. on Nov 3, 2009 9:14 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Done and done.

by renstar on Nov 3, 2009 9:16 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Sent in a screenshot of the logo covering up article content.

Maybe play with an edge, be a little more physical -- maybe be more of a prick out there.

by jordanDC on Nov 3, 2009 9:18 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

And quickly got this reply:

Jordan,

That issue is caused by adblock being turned on. We will look into a way around it, but that’s the reason for the logo hanging over the content like that.

Thanks,
Chris

Maybe play with an edge, be a little more physical -- maybe be more of a prick out there.

by jordanDC on Nov 3, 2009 9:21 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

What’s funny is that a few months ago I sent in a suggestion that the change their standard Washington Capitals page, and said the Rink looked better than that page did. Now they’ve ported the Caps page colors over here! I wanted it to go the other direction…

Atta dinnin stick a who!

by Gould Old Days on Nov 3, 2009 9:21 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I told ’em that the page looks cold and corporate now. I know people always get upset when sites they are used to change (look at Fark a year ago for example) and everyone will eventually get used to it.

The change here really isn’t so bad when compared to podium cafe, which looks nothing like a cycling site. It was awesome when they changed their color scheme to match the leader’s jersey in each of the grand tours.

by renstar on Nov 3, 2009 9:26 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I told ’em that the page looks cold and corporate now.

I always thought the sidebars on both sides made the site rather cozy.

"If you're gonna die after 24, might as well jump out at 23:59, no?"

by Laich It Or Lump It on Nov 3, 2009 9:31 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I never liked the old look. Way too claustrophobic. This has problems of its own (the heds are styled kind of funny), but overall I think it’s a huge upgrade.

by treat on Nov 3, 2009 9:40 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I’m not actually noticing any problems here at work; finding content easier to read. However, will have to see what it looks like at home.

by capfan on Nov 3, 2009 9:42 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

You’ll live.

(On the fark comment)

"And next year it will be ours."

by Ovechwin on Nov 3, 2009 10:56 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

You’ll get over it.

That was classic.

by renstar on Nov 3, 2009 12:37 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

This is most important issue. I now have a headache from reading. Not a fan of the font stuff, but that is a nminor thing and I can live with it. Color thing I can’t, literally.

Off to send my e-mail to SBNation.

A man gotta have a code

by CP2Devil on Nov 3, 2009 9:52 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, that was the essence of my comment that I never articulated. I occasionally get migraines from things like that.

by renstar on Nov 3, 2009 12:38 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

can’t stand the new css styles and can’t stand the lack of double-spacing. in NO way can that possibly make posts more readable.

by FFSEnough on Nov 3, 2009 9:31 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

This.

Maybe play with an edge, be a little more physical -- maybe be more of a prick out there.

by jordanDC on Nov 3, 2009 9:34 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

When I was in college, they offered a Software Usability course. One of my regrets is that I never made time to take that class.

"If you're gonna die after 24, might as well jump out at 23:59, no?"

by Laich It Or Lump It on Nov 3, 2009 9:36 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Any time you have anything obstructing the content, ho boy..

Maybe play with an edge, be a little more physical -- maybe be more of a prick out there.

by jordanDC on Nov 3, 2009 9:38 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Looks like they are trying to match the blogs with the new SB Nation frontpage. Gotta be consistent

Fehr is fair, but I like Laich

by amkcaps on Nov 3, 2009 7:26 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Fonts.

Too.

Big.

(Yes, will go tell SBNation…)

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by Your Nation's Capital on Nov 3, 2009 7:54 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Is it just me or does everything seem pushed farther to the left? I can’t for the life of me remember what used to be over there on the left though.

"If you're gonna die after 24, might as well jump out at 23:59, no?"

by Laich It Or Lump It on Nov 3, 2009 7:57 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I think there were quick links to Rink Wraps, Translations, etc, plus a list of other Caps blogs.

by red army line on Nov 3, 2009 8:01 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

For the first four months this blog was on SBNation I think I never noticed the FanShots and FanPosts on the right side.

by red army line on Nov 3, 2009 8:01 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Ah, I think all that stuff was consolidated into the right sidebar.

"If you're gonna die after 24, might as well jump out at 23:59, no?"

by Laich It Or Lump It on Nov 3, 2009 8:03 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

All that stuff’s still on the left sidebar on the front page and never was on the left of these post pages.

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by J.P. on Nov 3, 2009 8:25 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

And is it me, or is there a problem with the “Z” key? Or have the shortcuts changed and I have to read the directions again?

by gfcaps fan on Nov 3, 2009 8:15 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I’m gettin’ no Z love.

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by J.P. on Nov 3, 2009 8:20 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Working fine for me. Browser issue maybe?

"If you're gonna die after 24, might as well jump out at 23:59, no?"

by Laich It Or Lump It on Nov 3, 2009 8:21 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

aaand now it indeed works. Go figure.

by gfcaps fan on Nov 3, 2009 8:21 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Ha. Yeah. Just kicked in.

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by J.P. on Nov 3, 2009 8:22 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Now I’m finding the problem intermittant. As it wasn’t just me, it looks like this could be a recurring thing all day. I guess I’ll just have to live with it for now.

by gfcaps fan on Nov 3, 2009 8:36 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

There’s a joke in there somewhere, but it’s too early for me to come up with it.

At least I know it’s not my computer. thanks.

by gfcaps fan on Nov 3, 2009 8:21 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Z works okay in Firefox.

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by Your Nation's Capital on Nov 3, 2009 8:21 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Working fine on my work computer, but I’m still running IE6 here. Weird thing is that I had issues with the Z in IE6 before this upgrade. Also, the new layout looks better in IE6, since it has trouble properly displaying 3 columns.

"I tried to capture the spirit of the thing"

by tuvanhillbilly on Nov 3, 2009 8:26 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Except it probably didn’t occur as a result of giving or taking a hit or a collision along the boards or a similar piece of contact. It appears to have been a product of a scrum at the Columbus bench that might have been aggravated when he collided with Raffi Torres, the sort of collision that he probably brushes off a dozen times a game.

If you've read this far...seek help.

by ThePeerless on Nov 3, 2009 7:55 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

hahahahahahahaha Rec rec rec

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by jordanDC on Nov 3, 2009 8:30 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

The League is getting busy without Ovi alright. Kopitar took the lead in points last night.

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by Your Nation's Capital on Nov 3, 2009 11:39 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Chris Cooley is also dealing with an injury and has some advice on How To Fill The Time:

Part One

Part Two

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by Your Nation's Capital on Nov 3, 2009 7:52 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Not impossible.

Make no little plans; they have no magic to stir men's blood...Make big plans, aim high in hope and work. - Daniel H. Burnham

Fan Clubs: Sloan, Schultz

by gotsparkly on Nov 3, 2009 12:03 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Is it just be computer, or is there no link to LDN?

by red army line on Nov 3, 2009 8:02 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Is it just my

by red army line on Nov 3, 2009 8:02 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

The LDN links are the two that are in the text before the bracketed credit.

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by J.P. on Nov 3, 2009 8:20 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Alright, just seems a little weird whenever that thingy in brackets isn’t blue.

by red army line on Nov 3, 2009 9:23 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I rec’d this post for the sheer amount of links contained within. A plethora of links, if you will.

"If you're gonna die after 24, might as well jump out at 23:59, no?"

by Laich It Or Lump It on Nov 3, 2009 8:06 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

This is Alexander Ovechkin. The best player in hockey. Even in sick bay, the world wants a piece of him.

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by Your Nation's Capital on Nov 3, 2009 8:10 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I think the Bible had less links than today’s post. I’ve gone through two cups of coffee just getting to the bottom of the page and I haven’t even clicked on an article. Good job. I hope SB Nation paid you OT for this.

by b.orr4 on Nov 3, 2009 9:00 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I’d imagine he got paid time-and-a-half.

"If you're gonna die after 24, might as well jump out at 23:59, no?"

by Laich It Or Lump It on Nov 3, 2009 9:05 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

“Fight For Old DC” looks at Five Key Players.

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by Your Nation's Capital on Nov 3, 2009 8:09 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

"clutchosity"?

Spot-on-ism! Keep ’em coming, JP.

by Uncle C on Nov 3, 2009 8:10 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Recommended for “truthiness”

If you've read this far...seek help.

by ThePeerless on Nov 3, 2009 8:13 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Yes, but clutchosity-against/60 is a much more revealing measure.

"If you're gonna die after 24, might as well jump out at 23:59, no?"

by Laich It Or Lump It on Nov 3, 2009 8:15 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Isn’t that usually abbreviated Qual-clutch?

Atta dinnin stick a who!

by Gould Old Days on Nov 3, 2009 9:14 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Your fuel for the enforcer debate from the Post article:

Asked whether the Capitals’ lack of an enforcer allowed Chimera and Boll to confront Ovechkin without fear of retribution, Boudreau said: “We had a couple of guys go and challenge Chimera after that and he didn’t want to do anything. If he’s not going accept that challenge, he’s not going to accept a Donald Brashear challenge. So I don’t think it would have stopped them from doing anything.”

by apk3000 on Nov 3, 2009 8:11 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

I don’t think that’s fuel for the enforcer debate so much as the team toughness debate. Really, I find it a sickening quote – “Hey, we tried to be tough, but the guy wouldn’t engage, so, oh well!”

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by J.P. on Nov 3, 2009 8:21 AM EST up reply actions   2 recs

It really makes no sense. If the only guys you can enforce against are the guys willing to go with the enforcer, you’re only “enforcing” guys who aren’t deterred. You might as well send out a memo to every team in the league telling them they can who whatever they want to whomever they want because the Caps aren’t going to make them answer.

You look at quotes like that, and the fact that the Caps haven’t had an instigator penalty since Boudreau’s first game and I think it very, very strongly suggests the decision not to drop the gloves in those situation is coming from Gabby. I like the guy and I love all he’s done for the Caps, but this is an area he needs to change his policies in.

by David M. Getz on Nov 3, 2009 8:30 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah I agree. Sometimes you don’t let the guy have the choice in the matter. Steve Ott doesn’t always like answering the bell for his low blows but when the bare knuckles start flying he generally gets with the program. You don’t ask the man for a cup of tea and a tangle. You drop ’em, grab the sweater, and start throwing haymakers until he obliges. Take the instigator and move on with the season.

If consequences dictate the course of action, then it doesn't matter what's right, it's only wrong if you get caught. If consequences dictate the course of action, then I should play God...

by Fehr and Balanced on Nov 3, 2009 10:49 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

You don’t ask the man for a cup of tea and a tangle.

Rec’d just for that line.

by mercurialwinger on Nov 3, 2009 12:55 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Playing Devil's Advocate

What is "team toughness?" Is this something perceived by or about the team, its opponents, or by the fans? Do the Capitals only have one player worth protecting? Is there something that happened in previous games that if someone had dropped the gloves, it would have precluded anything happening in the Columbus game? If you leave your star players exposed by not dropping the gloves, then why did Columbus not go after any of Semin, Backstrom, Green, or anyone else later in the game when no one dropped the gloves after Ovechkin was hurt? Where is the measurement of "toughness" on the scoreboard? How does it figure into the standings?

by mechanicsville on Nov 3, 2009 4:32 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

AO is the top target because he’s the best player. If you hop over into the thread about Ken Hitchcock admitting they targeted AO you’ll find my discussion with CP2 that Keith Yandle tried to fight (he is no tough guy by any stretch) when Wisniewski threw a forearm shiver into Doan’s face. The rest of the night the Coyotes were chomping at the bit to get a piece of Doan. When another team watches that they know that if they go play rough and tumble with PHX they had better be ready for a long night. Does that translate into standings points? I don’t know. It’s an empirical question and I don’t know how you’d measure it. But it does tend to keep teams more honest about attacking your skilled players.

If consequences dictate the course of action, then it doesn't matter what's right, it's only wrong if you get caught. If consequences dictate the course of action, then I should play God...

by Fehr and Balanced on Nov 3, 2009 4:37 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

tend to keep teams more honest about attacking your skilled players


See, that’s the part about which I’m not sure. I’m not disagreeing…just not sure whether you can say for sure one way or the other.

by mechanicsville on Nov 3, 2009 4:52 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I did the quote backwards…my bad.

by mechanicsville on Nov 3, 2009 4:53 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I’m saying that based on my experiences playing and based on watching the way certain teams play and get played. You may be right but I do think it affects the way teams/players approach the game.

If consequences dictate the course of action, then it doesn't matter what's right, it's only wrong if you get caught. If consequences dictate the course of action, then I should play God...

by Fehr and Balanced on Nov 3, 2009 4:56 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Can’t argue with that. Rather difficult to play effectively with your head ona swivel.

by mechanicsville on Nov 3, 2009 8:32 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

That’s part of it but there’s also this feeling on the ice that everyone on both sides realize one teams pushing the other team around. It’s not always necessarily intimidation, and I question how many NHL players can really be physically intimidated as tough as they are, but players can tell when one team is in control physically. I don’t know that I can explain it any better and I have no idea how it plays out at a level anywhere close to the NHL.

If consequences dictate the course of action, then it doesn't matter what's right, it's only wrong if you get caught. If consequences dictate the course of action, then I should play God...

by Fehr and Balanced on Nov 3, 2009 8:54 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

This is one of the few instances where I think Bradley or somebody, anybody, should have taken the instigator and just beat the life out of Chimera.

Maybe play with an edge, be a little more physical -- maybe be more of a prick out there.

by jordanDC on Nov 3, 2009 8:32 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

No doubt. I would have liked to see some retribution for the reckless knee-on-knee hit on Green, if for no reason other than to send the league a message. Now this. If you’re not going to just take the penalty when someone tries to engage Ovechkin and ends up injuring him, when are you?

I’m not a huge fan of gratuitous fighting, fighting after clean hits, or trying to measure a team by the number of fights they’re in, but if a team won’t drop the gloves in defense of their star players – instigator be damned – it hurts their team toughness.

by David M. Getz on Nov 3, 2009 8:36 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Chimera was doing exactly what I thought wasn’t happening against Green — Chimera was targeting Ovi directly.

Chimera’s face should have been squashed, whether he cared to defend himself or not.

Atta dinnin stick a who!

by Gould Old Days on Nov 3, 2009 9:15 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

We had a couple of guys go and challenge Chimera

Other than Brads, I’m guessing the second guy that challenged him was Morrisson, right after regulation ended. Both he and Chimera had their gloves off in the scrum behind the Caps nets. They were chatting, but for some reason ShaMo decides not to do what he needed to do and start throwing fists.

Only having five D-men for the overtime……who cares.

by Cluster on Nov 3, 2009 10:36 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Other than Brads, I’m guessing the second guy that challenged him was Morrisson, right after regulation ended.

You sure it wasn’t Juice?

If consequences dictate the course of action, then it doesn't matter what's right, it's only wrong if you get caught. If consequences dictate the course of action, then I should play God...

by Fehr and Balanced on Nov 3, 2009 10:51 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Positive. It was Morrisson, for sure. He was in prime gloveless sweater-jostling mode, exchanged words, and then they both just let go. Such an opportunity, so deflating.

by Cluster on Nov 3, 2009 11:09 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

To clarify, Morrisonn (Not Morrison), right?

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by J.P. on Nov 3, 2009 11:17 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Yep, the Shaone variety.

by Cluster on Nov 3, 2009 11:19 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I know you were right. I was just trying to highlight one of my reasons for picking Shamo over Juice in the debate the other day. Awful nice of those guys to bring my point into such high relief so quickly, no?

If consequences dictate the course of action, then it doesn't matter what's right, it's only wrong if you get caught. If consequences dictate the course of action, then I should play God...

by Fehr and Balanced on Nov 3, 2009 11:30 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Imagine how much more stark the contrast had Shamo actually, y’know, done something.

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by J.P. on Nov 3, 2009 11:32 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Which only makes it so much more frustrating. We know Shamo is capable of carrying through, and a couple of years ago, it seems like he would have. DMG may have hit a homerun with his comment above about Gabby. I will often go back and Youtube most of the fights in the NHL after they happen to see the game situation around how they started, who was involved, how they did, etc. Other teams’ responses to questionable hits or in getting retribution seems instant. Gloves immediately off, game time and score be damned. The Caps don’t seem to have that switch in their heads.

by Cluster on Nov 3, 2009 11:42 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah if only Chimera wanted to fight.

If consequences dictate the course of action, then it doesn't matter what's right, it's only wrong if you get caught. If consequences dictate the course of action, then I should play God...

by Fehr and Balanced on Nov 3, 2009 11:56 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

That was going to be my question. If the guy won’t go, how do you determine whether to take the instigator? At some point, does someone take a run at the guy and hope it works out okay (no major injury, minor penalty)? Does it matter based on the score at the time?

by gfcaps fan on Nov 3, 2009 8:38 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I have argued at length that the scored generally matters, but the way that Chimera was going after guys all game long overrides that. He was determined to piss off or injure someone and needed to be dissuaded via fisticuffs from doing as much.

Maybe play with an edge, be a little more physical -- maybe be more of a prick out there.

by jordanDC on Nov 3, 2009 8:48 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Chimera is everything that’s wrong with hockey. Guys who can’t take a legit hit and then go around all game hitting guys after the play and then refusing to drop the gloves. You’re right, someone should have said “Damn the instigator” and just started wailing on him. I love his quote in the Post, “He had hit me pretty hard earlier in the game and I just wanted him to know he wasn’t going to hit me out of the game.” What a total jackass.

by b.orr4 on Nov 3, 2009 9:05 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Insecure bald guy.

Maybe play with an edge, be a little more physical -- maybe be more of a prick out there.

by jordanDC on Nov 3, 2009 9:06 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

None of this tracks for me: Who’d trade Ovechkin for Chimera? If I’m Boudreau (or Jurcina, or an AHL call-up on special assignment), Chimera getting cheep with Ovechkin begets open season on Nash.

by redlineblue on Nov 3, 2009 9:17 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

…and then Columbus goes after Backstrom. Then Washington goes after Vermette. Then Columbus goes after Green. Then Washington runs Theo.

I’d never support trading cheap shots. Hold the guy who committed the infraction accountable.

by David M. Getz on Nov 3, 2009 9:21 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Then Washington runs Theo.

Wow, talk about thuggery gone wild.

by b.orr4 on Nov 3, 2009 9:39 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

It’s cause they feel more confident playing in front of Varley.

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by Laich It Or Lump It on Nov 3, 2009 9:41 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Exactly. Madness. Dogs and cats living together. Mass hysteria.

by David M. Getz on Nov 3, 2009 9:42 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Wrath of God type stuff, I take it?

"You're gonna eat that g**d**n Koho, three!"

by fat_daddyo on Nov 3, 2009 10:00 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Mmmmm…marshmallows.

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by Your Nation's Capital on Nov 3, 2009 10:12 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Most of the ‘Columbus goes after…’ that you posited actually happened (e.g. crosscheck 19, from behind, into the net; who doesn’t run Theo?). I’d be glad to see a miscreant dealt with directly, but if your Team is going to spend an evening abusing my stars, I’m not just sending my Team after your palookas.
If you’re Hitchcock, how does taking Chimera, Bradley, and Ovechkin out of the game sound to ya?

by redlineblue on Nov 3, 2009 9:43 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Most of the ‘Columbus goes after…’ that you posited actually happened

No, it didn’t. There’s a world of difference between how Columbus played and running at people and starting back and forth cheapshot crap. If someone goes after your guy, you make them pay. You try and enact eye-for-an-eye stuff. That’s, much, much worse than anything anyone on Columbus did on Sunday.

by David M. Getz on Nov 3, 2009 9:46 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I’m going to whine about the refs for a moment. They were terrible in this game from the get go. If they had been doing their job from the beginning and calling the crap against Columbus (and I’m ignoring whether there should have also been calls against the Caps), could that have prevented this, in that it woulnd’t have gotten to the point of the scrum in front of the benches?

by gfcaps fan on Nov 3, 2009 9:49 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I don’t think so. Ovechkin hit Chimera hard, but clean. Chimera decided to give Ovechkin a shove later as a result and Ovie retaliated. Chimera and Boll were penalized. I’m just not sure what else you can ask them to do.

by David M. Getz on Nov 3, 2009 9:51 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

The question was more about whether how the refs call the game has any effect on the retaliatory shoving. In theory, isn’t that a penalty? Is that what he got called for, anyway? I know a lot of stuff happens in the heat of the moment on the ice, but would a player ever think twice about it?

by gfcaps fan on Nov 3, 2009 10:01 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

There’s a world of difference between how Columbus played and running at people

If you say so. Sounds like you’re saying they played our stars hard and clean (except Chimera). So: why would our dishing the same medicine to their stars constitute ‘cheap shot crap’?

by redlineblue on Nov 3, 2009 10:10 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

It wouldn’t. But I had the impression that was what this exchange was centered (1) given phrases like “getting cheap with Ovechkin begets open season on Nash” and “sending my team after [the opponent]” and (2) the Capitals should be out hitting everyone on every team hard every night.

by David M. Getz on Nov 3, 2009 10:16 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I did sound a lil heated. The ‘designated tough guy’ mechanism annoys and frustrates me. I saw Nicky crosschecked into the net and Semin punched in the back of the head vs. CBJ, in addition to Ovechkin swarmed and (re)injured.
If I can take those liberties against Caps in exchange for the utterly replaceable Chimera (who can prob’ly handle Brads anyway), I’m going to do so every night.

by redlineblue on Nov 3, 2009 10:51 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

In shootout order, right?

"Let the rest be scared of us." - Sasha Semin

by Scott in Shaw on Nov 3, 2009 11:39 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

any chance SDR shows up in DC? is it even possible? he’d probably do OK replacing Sloan, no?

by ns on Nov 3, 2009 9:36 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Not possible until after his OHL season ends.

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by J.P. on Nov 3, 2009 9:39 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Probably not possible then either. I’d bet the caps are against the 50 contract limit by the time his season is over. Not that he’d make the team anyway

by renstar on Nov 3, 2009 9:44 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

If their guy doesn’t want to engage, you do it for him.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZqXmTfbQwE

Russian Machine very rarely breaks.

by macvechkin on Nov 3, 2009 12:26 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Not sure what the point is there. Doesn’t look like Dave Brown had to fight anyone so are you suggesting we X check a dude in the face?

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by Fehr and Balanced on Nov 3, 2009 1:26 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Regarding Mike Knuble and Team USA

He apparently has dual citizenship, having been born in Toronto but moved to Michigan with his family in his teens.

This link is specific to Jason Pominville, but describes the choices faced by dual citizens.

Basically the dual citizen may choose to play for the Canadian program or the American program, but once the choice is made, there’s no going back.

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by Your Nation's Capital on Nov 3, 2009 8:29 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Good job on Mike Knuble for making the right choice!

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by jordanDC on Nov 3, 2009 8:33 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Having a Lee Greenwood moment…

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by Your Nation's Capital on Nov 3, 2009 8:34 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Good job on Mike Knuble for making the right choice!

And picking the only team that would have him…

Atta dinnin stick a who!

by Gould Old Days on Nov 3, 2009 9:17 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Probably true.

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by jordanDC on Nov 3, 2009 9:18 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

aww…poor mike knuble

by twistedlogic on Nov 3, 2009 9:41 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

hey, our little DC regiment of the Soviet Red Army took him!

by RedBirdie on Nov 3, 2009 10:13 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

JP

Knuble played in the Olympics for Team USA in 2006 and he has represented the USA in the World Championships.

His parents (his father is deceased) are not Canadian.

If readers are interested, there have been some interesting stories written over the years about his parents/family. His parents are Latvian, met in the USA, temporarily moved to Canada and returned to the US where Mike Knuble was raised. From what I have read, not in his teens, but most of his childhood was spent in Grand Rapids.

The Toronto birthplace is more akin to Heatley being born in Germany or Kolzig being born in South Africa, then someone like Pominville.

by sk84fun_dc on Nov 3, 2009 10:46 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Knubs was born in Toronto when his dad was temporarily assigned there on business.

by CapsFan75 on Nov 3, 2009 8:05 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Knuble has also played on four World Championship teams (‘95, ’99, ’01, and ’05) and one Olympic (’06) team for the U.S., so he’s no stranger to wearing the stars and stripes

by Cluster on Nov 3, 2009 10:42 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

He’s no Brett Hull.

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by Fehr and Balanced on Nov 3, 2009 10:54 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

this is true. Knuble never brought the Cup to some random hole in the wall bar in Duluth unannounced, and sat there for hours drinking beer and shooting the breeze with random people.

by RedBirdie on Nov 3, 2009 11:02 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I’m assuming that means his parents (or one of them) were American, if he didn’t move to Michigan until he was a teenager. I’m sure someone here actually knows.

by gfcaps fan on Nov 3, 2009 8:41 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I go away for a weekend, place a harmless bet on Columbus in Vegas and everything turns into chaos.

"I'm just doing karate and trying to get females pregnant."

by Bald Pollack on Nov 3, 2009 8:32 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

I told everyone to hide the good china and tie down their avatars in anticipation of your return.

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by Your Nation's Capital on Nov 3, 2009 8:33 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Having the marquee player not get hurt would have sufficed.

"I'm just doing karate and trying to get females pregnant."

by Bald Pollack on Nov 3, 2009 8:36 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

There is that, yes.

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by Your Nation's Capital on Nov 3, 2009 8:38 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

BP, the team toughness around here was adequate, but I for one am glad to get our avatar-enforcer back in the lineup. I just feel more comfortable in my ability to play my role, knowing that someone has my back if things get hairy.

Atta dinnin stick a who!

by Gould Old Days on Nov 3, 2009 9:18 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

You did a fine job stepping into a tough role, son. A little tame on the whipsnap, but you got there and got there in a hurry.

by bigonetimer on Nov 3, 2009 9:34 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Does that bring I’ve got to bring in some hired help for some crap 4th line time?

"I'm just doing karate and trying to get females pregnant."

by Bald Pollack on Nov 3, 2009 9:38 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

For what it’s worth, I like the new site design (or rather, the rework to match SBNation).

Winterion Game Studios
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by winterion on Nov 3, 2009 9:09 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Yuck, not a fan. Too bright!

"And next year it will be ours."

by Ovechwin on Nov 3, 2009 11:04 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Aucoin swapped out for Perreault. Interesting. I’m very excited to see how he plays.

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by jordanDC on Nov 3, 2009 9:36 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Via Corey tweets, by the way.

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by jordanDC on Nov 3, 2009 9:36 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Also on Caps Facebook page!

by capfan on Nov 3, 2009 9:37 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Capitals Recall Mathieu Perreault from Hershey, Assign Keith Aucoin
 
ARLINGTON, Va. – The Washington Capitals have recalled center Mathieu Perreault from the Hershey Bears of the American Hockey League (AHL) and assigned center Keith Aucoin to Hershey, vice president and general manager George McPhee announced today.
 
Perreault, 21, is a second-year pro who stands 5’10", 174 pounds. The Drummondville, Quebec, native has played in 11 games for Hershey this year and has one goal and six assists, tied for fourth on the team with seven points. He had back-to-back two-point games and was +5 last weekend.

……
 
The sixth-round selection, 177th overall pick in the 2006 Entry Draft, will wear No. 85 with Washington and is eligible to make his NHL debut with the Capitals on Wednesday, Nov. 4, at the New Jersey Devils.


Seems like a lateral move to me. I guess Perrault is a size upgrade….
Also, would this be the first #85 in Caps history?

by Kolzilla on Nov 3, 2009 9:43 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Oops, formatting.

by Kolzilla on Nov 3, 2009 9:44 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I guess Perrault is a size upgrade….

hahaha, never thought i’d hear that!

"No Brooks Laich, no win. Know Brooks Laich, know win."

by kellobellow on Nov 3, 2009 9:45 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Dude seriously grew an inch or two over the last couple years. Looks bulkier, too.

Maybe play with an edge, be a little more physical -- maybe be more of a prick out there.

by jordanDC on Nov 3, 2009 9:53 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Dude seriously grew an inch or two over the last couple years.

On paper at least…

by David M. Getz on Nov 3, 2009 9:56 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Did you see him at training camp?

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by jordanDC on Nov 3, 2009 10:11 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Nope, haven’t seen him since Heshey’s playoffs. Looked bigger than when he was drafted…but I don’t think he’s 5’10’’.

by David M. Getz on Nov 3, 2009 10:18 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

No chance he’s 5’10". None.

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by J.P. on Nov 3, 2009 10:19 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Bigger than when he was drafted though, for sure. Bouchard, too.

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by jordanDC on Nov 3, 2009 10:20 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Sure he is, on skates.

"I tried to capture the spirit of the thing"

by tuvanhillbilly on Nov 3, 2009 10:23 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

On skates, maybe, if he’s wearing lifts.

If you've read this far...seek help.

by ThePeerless on Nov 3, 2009 10:24 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I’m 5’8" and he was maybe as tall as me when we spoke (briefly)

by RedBirdie on Nov 3, 2009 10:38 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

perreault ftw! love that guy :)

surprised they sent aucoin back down, though – hmm. i guess we’ll see what happens

"No Brooks Laich, no win. Know Brooks Laich, know win."

by kellobellow on Nov 3, 2009 9:42 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

FanShotted for further discussion

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by J.P. on Nov 3, 2009 9:45 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Nice little aesthetic improvements on the site!
And I’d like to see if there are any Caps-related letters to the editor in the next issue of Rolling Stone.

"My face is my mask."

by jakeshapiro on Nov 3, 2009 9:58 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

And I’d like to see if there are any Caps-related letters to the editor in the next issue of Rolling Stone.

Me too, but that would necessitate picking up a copy of Rolling Stone so… nah.

"If you're gonna die after 24, might as well jump out at 23:59, no?"

by Laich It Or Lump It on Nov 3, 2009 10:08 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Hey, I’m pretty sure RS doesn’t come shrink-wrapped, so you can read it at the grocery store without buying it!

"My face is my mask."

by jakeshapiro on Nov 3, 2009 11:32 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

That necessitates physically picking up the magazine, so still no dice.

"If you're gonna die after 24, might as well jump out at 23:59, no?"

by Laich It Or Lump It on Nov 3, 2009 12:20 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

we could get you a helper monkey! then you wouldn’t be the one picking it up.

by RedBirdie on Nov 3, 2009 12:22 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

If said monkey drove me to the store, guided me to the magazine aisle, picked up the magazine, flipped to the letters to the editor section, and read them aloud to me… I would consider it.

"If you're gonna die after 24, might as well jump out at 23:59, no?"

by Laich It Or Lump It on Nov 3, 2009 12:25 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

You don’t even know how many times a week I wish I had a helper monkey. Preferably one that could drive.

Fight, you time-wasting figure skaters!

by boutros23 on Nov 3, 2009 1:33 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Was Ted not being “for the most part” sarcastic when he praised the DCLS letter? Don’t get me wrong, I loved every word of the latter, but Ted sandwiched his support around a mockery of concerns over the team’s performance. He doesn’t even mention the toughness issue(s).

by GetBengt on Nov 3, 2009 10:32 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Forsberg

Forsberg is younger than I thought. Does anyone own his rights anymore? Why he’s not playing professionally anywhere anymore?

by CarlosLA on Nov 3, 2009 10:37 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

he’s free to sign with anyone. Check out the fanpost (or fanshot?) on the right side of the screen devoted to Foppa.

by RedBirdie on Nov 3, 2009 10:39 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I find the top icon’s placement to be incredibly distracting. Why fix what wasn’t broke?

"And next year it will be ours."

by Ovechwin on Nov 3, 2009 11:14 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Take a minute and let the folks making the decisions know your thoughts – support@sbnation.com

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by J.P. on Nov 3, 2009 11:17 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Done and done.

"And next year it will be ours."

by Ovechwin on Nov 3, 2009 11:28 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Power to the people!

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by J.P. on Nov 3, 2009 11:32 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Is there some kind of Bastille we could storm?

"And next year it will be ours."

by Ovechwin on Nov 3, 2009 11:34 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Er, JP?
A Washington Capitals blog from the most powerful cities in the world

Has the subhead of the blog changed?

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by Your Nation's Capital on Nov 3, 2009 11:32 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Because…it’s changed. ^^ Up there at the top of the page.

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by Your Nation's Capital on Nov 3, 2009 11:34 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Very observant.

I was made aware of two flaws in the old tagline – 1) that it didn’t accurately reflect our geographic make up and 2) that without “Washington Capitals” in the tagline, we were sacrificing a ton of Google juice. And so the change was made. Should something better come along (suggestions welcome), it shall change again.

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by J.P. on Nov 3, 2009 11:34 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

The Wash Caps change is correct and welcomed.

But…

Which other powerful cities do we blog from?

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by Your Nation's Capital on Nov 3, 2009 11:37 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Frederick? Herdon?

by RedBirdie on Nov 3, 2009 11:43 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Bailey’s Crossroads.

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by Your Nation's Capital on Nov 3, 2009 11:44 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Palmyra

"I tried to capture the spirit of the thing"

by tuvanhillbilly on Nov 3, 2009 12:03 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Pepper is in New York, at least. But even though that makes it technically accurate in terms of from where posts’ authors hail, I think it’s a lame change, because the situs of the blog is still DC since it’s where JP started it and lives (in the burbs, I think), and Washington is the city with the nickname.

"Let the rest be scared of us." - Sasha Semin

by Scott in Shaw on Nov 3, 2009 11:44 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

The Capitals play in Washington DC, the most powerful city in the world, and we blog about them from just about everywhere. I don’t get why that would be incorrect on the subhead.

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by Your Nation's Capital on Nov 3, 2009 11:48 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Because it’s clearly a typo.

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by jordanDC on Nov 3, 2009 11:48 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I think JP was indicating it is not.

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by Your Nation's Capital on Nov 3, 2009 11:49 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, I see. Well.. it’s silly. Blogging from the most powerful city in the world, commenting from other places.

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by jordanDC on Nov 3, 2009 11:50 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

This. “We” don’t do any blogging here. Unless you want to see “Fanshotting from the most powerful cities in the world,” which is a bit much.

"Let the rest be scared of us." - Sasha Semin

by Scott in Shaw on Nov 3, 2009 11:57 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

"Fanshotting from the most powerful cities in the world"

If you look at that really fast, you get the impression fans are doing something other that writing online comments.

Of course, it might just be a term for fans writing online comments, too.

If you've read this far...seek help.

by ThePeerless on Nov 3, 2009 12:02 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

“Peter Northing from the most powerful cities in the world” just didn’t roll off the tongue the same way.

by Cluster on Nov 3, 2009 12:12 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

O.K. Now I need to go take a shower. Thanks a bunch.

by mechanicsville on Nov 3, 2009 2:06 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

…ewww

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by jordanDC on Nov 3, 2009 2:08 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Fixed!

Kudos.

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by Your Nation's Capital on Nov 3, 2009 1:17 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Just don’t forget that Pepper’s a New Yawker, and we’re all good.

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by J.P. on Nov 3, 2009 1:22 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Never that! And he’s got some great tix up for sale at the Rink Rat Ticket Exchange.

But he :: is :: writing about Washington’s team.

:: waving hi to Pepper ::

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by Your Nation's Capital on Nov 3, 2009 1:26 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I wasn’t able to watch a lot of the last game, but reading that open letter referenced above- Poti was there for the tying goal late in the 3rd?

I’d posted previously here I didn’t like Poti in there in the final 2 minutes where the game is separated by one goal or less.
I’ve seen too many very poor decisions (usually of the pinching type, but othe creative decisions too) leading to unfavorable results.

I don’t see why BB didn’t listen to me…
;)

by Icebat on Nov 3, 2009 11:33 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Whatever “week-to-week” means, it definitely ruined my day :(

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by Brad_Richards_Rocks on Nov 3, 2009 11:50 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Ha! AO mentioned nachos and coke as part of his recovery process.

"And next year it will be ours."

by Ovechwin on Nov 3, 2009 12:39 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

The Mike Green rehab program?

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by J.P. on Nov 3, 2009 12:40 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I thought he preferred flame broiled burgers.

"And next year it will be ours."

by Ovechwin on Nov 3, 2009 12:43 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I’ll let the nachos and coke go for one game. It’s his attitude in general that wins out.

I want to be around team; I don’t want to stay at home and watch game at home. I want to travel.

by gfcaps fan on Nov 3, 2009 1:15 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Alex is a little bit of all right.

It would probably be better for him to rest it out at home, but that would be as futile as ordering the tide to stop rolling in.

So. Does he sit way up in the press box? It’s prolly a little crowded down at the bench.

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by Your Nation's Capital on Nov 3, 2009 1:23 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Someone just needs to remind him to keep his arms down when the team scores.

Darn it.

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by Your Nation's Capital on Nov 3, 2009 1:28 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I’m thinking in a suit behind the bench like Komisarek a couple years back.

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by jordanDC on Nov 3, 2009 1:34 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

If he’s sitting in the press box and the box is like it is at Verizon, he’ll be swarmed, unless they were to position his seat away from the end. If behind the bench is an option, I see that as definitely his choice.

by gfcaps fan on Nov 3, 2009 1:39 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe he’ll sit with his parents in the stands.

by CapsFan75 on Nov 3, 2009 8:07 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I don’t believe we covered nachos in our “4 food groups” discussion recently.

by RedBirdie on Nov 3, 2009 12:52 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Via Corey

Watch the Ovechkin video on the #Caps site and listen to the background noise. Guys giving media crap for leaving @GreenLife52 mid-sentence.

Awesome video!

"And next year it will be ours."

by Ovechwin on Nov 3, 2009 1:53 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Dear Jason Chimera,

You are a douche.

“One guy challenged me, the Morrisonn guy,” Chimera said." I don’t know his first name. he’s a defenseman. It was going into overtime. I wasn’t going to fight then . . . I’m not the guy to turn down a fight, but we’re headed into overtime at that point. I play in overtime. I wanted to make something happen in overtime."

I hope “the Morrisonn guy” smears your ugly mug across the ice on April 3. And you’re not a guy to turn down a fight? Yes, yes you are. Next time, grow a pair and back up your words with actions.

Love,

I don’t feel bad about Scuderi’s dirty hit now.

by RedBirdie on Nov 3, 2009 2:25 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

Couldn’t have happened to a nicer guy, eh?

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by jordanDC on Nov 3, 2009 2:36 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

sorry, forgot to include the link. Sounds like the players are just as classy as their coach.

by RedBirdie on Nov 3, 2009 2:44 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

It’s always douchebaggery from western conference teams that screws us over.

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by jordanDC on Nov 3, 2009 2:47 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

See Pronger, Chris

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by Ovechwin on Nov 3, 2009 2:53 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

And what did he do wrong? Of all the hits he’s thrown in his career the one on Mike Green may be the least controversial. People, our stars are going to get hit, sometimes even hurt. Injury <> dirty. What you should be up in arms about is the response (hint: lack thereof) from our team.

If consequences dictate the course of action, then it doesn't matter what's right, it's only wrong if you get caught. If consequences dictate the course of action, then I should play God...

by Fehr and Balanced on Nov 3, 2009 3:01 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I wasn’t going for the douchbaggery part, I was going for the western conference part.

"And next year it will be ours."

by Ovechwin on Nov 3, 2009 3:03 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Gotcha. I was just responding to the general tone of the thread, and the other thread.

If consequences dictate the course of action, then it doesn't matter what's right, it's only wrong if you get caught. If consequences dictate the course of action, then I should play God...

by Fehr and Balanced on Nov 3, 2009 3:07 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I know, there are a lot of whiners, but what can you expect? His year was going awesome, and now there’s a speed bump. People will freak out.

"And next year it will be ours."

by Ovechwin on Nov 3, 2009 3:15 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Post was pretty tongue-in-cheek.

Maybe play with an edge, be a little more physical -- maybe be more of a prick out there.

by jordanDC on Nov 3, 2009 3:06 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Fair enough but I know you see the other “woe is us” comments going on. Just trying to nip it in the bud.

If consequences dictate the course of action, then it doesn't matter what's right, it's only wrong if you get caught. If consequences dictate the course of action, then I should play God...

by Fehr and Balanced on Nov 3, 2009 3:07 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I’m lampooning the tone. Right there with ya.

Maybe play with an edge, be a little more physical -- maybe be more of a prick out there.

by jordanDC on Nov 3, 2009 3:10 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

5 Things I'm More Concerned About Than "Toughness"

1)The coaching staff coming up with a new breakout play. Seeing them continue to run the same ones that they have been using for the past year is getting old.
2)A veteran defensemen learning how not to screen his own goalies.
3)Penalty killers aggressively taking away space, particularly when the player with the puck has his face to the boards.
4)Penalty killers being coached to understand that when killing an empty net power play the first priority is to take away the passing lanes. Taking away the shooting lanes is secondary—the burden of stopping shots falls more heavily on the goalie.
5)Boudreau evolving his strategy. He appears to have run out of ideas and has been reduced to berating the players for not trying hard enough. If he does not learn some new tricks…

by mechanicsville on Nov 3, 2009 4:42 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

If we didn’t challenge him to a fight until late in the 3rd that’s on us. I can understand not wanting to put yourself out of OT. But something tells me there was an offer much earlier considering AO didn’t make it through the first period. If not, well, team toughness fail.

If consequences dictate the course of action, then it doesn't matter what's right, it's only wrong if you get caught. If consequences dictate the course of action, then I should play God...

by Fehr and Balanced on Nov 3, 2009 2:47 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Brads reportedly challenged him, but I don’t know when that was.

by RedBirdie on Nov 3, 2009 2:53 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I thought he was challenged earlier as well, but if you accept his word (which you certainly don’t have to) that he wasn’t challenged until the 3rd it’s hard to fault him. Now, I suspect he was challenged in the first, second, and third and refused but decided to use the OT excuse for the one challenge. I don’t disagree that it’s chicken shit to turn down fights all game after that and then use that one excuse, but if our team didn’t challenge him before that, and I don’t recall anyone saying they asked him to tango earlier than the third, or any blatant attempts to get him to fight before the third, then that’s on us.

If consequences dictate the course of action, then it doesn't matter what's right, it's only wrong if you get caught. If consequences dictate the course of action, then I should play God...

by Fehr and Balanced on Nov 3, 2009 3:03 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs


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