Wednesday Caps Clips: Sabres @ Caps Game Day
by J.P. on Nov 25, 2009 6:44 AM EST
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- Previews of tonight's Caps/Sabres game from NHL.com and Peerless, and be sure to check out our SB Nation partner Die By The Blade for coverage from the other side of tonight's match up.
- The roster shuffle continues, with John Carlson and Andrew Gordon returned to Hershey and Karl Alzner apparently coming back up to D.C.
- Vogs details just how bad third periods have been for the Caps. [Dump and Chase]
- What's so frustrating about some of these recent losses is that the Caps are making a lot of the same mistakes they've been making for the past year and change. [Washington Times]
- Plenty of links regarding the passing of a truly monumental Washingtonian. [Capitals Insider, Peerless, Mr. Irrelevant, Capitals, and a great pic via @dcsportsbog]
- A bit soon perhaps, but part of what this might mean for The Boss. [Washington Times]
- Then there are the outright celebratory tones being voiced in some corners of the Interwebs. [OFB]
- More power rankings, with the Caps holding at third here at SB Nation, at fourth at CBC and at fifth at SI.com, and up one to fourth at FOX Sports.
- Mike Green shot a Geico ad, caveman and all. [The Cooley Zone]
- Speaking of Green, he's certainly on the bubble for Team Canada... [CBC]
- ... even if his stock is up in some places. [CTV]
- Barry Melrose isn't surprised it's taking Alex Ovechkin a few games to regain his form post-injury. [ESPN (video)]
- Everywhere he goes, The Boss gets hounded. [Ted's Take]
- Good stuff on Cody Eakin. [SLAM!]
- Per the HHOF, on this date back in 1992, "Defenseman Al Iafrate scored a goal and added three assists as the Washington Capitals began a team-record 13 game home undefeated streak (9-0-4), with a 6-2 win over the Boston Bruins." How about starting a similar streak tonight, eh boys?
- Finally, happy 59th birthday to Bob Kelly.
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Long ago, OFB had a quick post which had the pics of Pollin, Al Davis and the Cryptkeeper up, along with the caption “Which one would you prefer?” That’s pretty much when I stopped going to OFB.
"Good luck and God speed, Ben. See you on the other side of the pitch."
Its interesting that they mention the Stevens thing as “unforgivable”. My memory may be a little fuzzy, but wasn’t he involved in The Limo Incident (which is kinda like the Calvin and Hobbes “Noodle Incident”)? They pretty much quietly pushed everyone involved with that out of town as I recall (Courtnall and Dino most prominently).
Ron and Fez 11 to 3
by YvonLabresMoustache on Nov 25, 2009 7:33 AM EST up reply actions
Stevens was definitely involved. Per the NYT (btw, love the free archives… take note, other dying old media outlets!):
Report Says 4 Capitals Are Under Investigation
Published: Tuesday, May 15, 1990
Four Washington Capitals are being investigated on charges of sexually assaulting a 17-year-old girl in a limousine in Georgetown after a party last Friday that celebrated the team’s season, The Washington Post reported today.
The newspaper, citing police sources, said the players involved in the investigation are Dino Ciccarelli, Geoff Courtnall, Neil Sheehy and Scott Stevens. No charges have been filed against the players.
Not everyone was shown the door immediately, though. Courtnall was traded to STL on July 13 of that year. Stevens was signed by STL on July 16. Sheehy’s contract expired that summer. Dino hung around until he was (unforgivably) traded for Kevin Miller on June 20, 1992.
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(And by “definitely involved,” I obviously just mean that he was named, not that he participated in anything of which he was accused.)
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Of course, it’s a shame that these guys are remembered for that more than this (or this).
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I wasn’t in DC when that happened, and I remembered Stevens more for being a pain in the ass defenseman for the Devils (And didn’t even know he was a Capital until a lot later). Same with Dino, though I figured out he was a Cap sooner. Sheehy I haven’t heard much about, and Courtnall I remember from old tape. It kind of sucks, knowing that I missed out on almost two full decades of Caps hockey because of my age.
Familiar Rapports: Bald Pollack, F&B, Gould Old Days.
Lobbies: Osala, Perreault, Erskine, Pothier, Neuvirth, Flash.
Fan of: Mean Lars Backstrom, Line Mashing, Cake.
On the plus side, your relative youth increases the chances that you might actually see them when a Cup in your lifetime, whereas time’s a-runnin’ out for us geezers.
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Sheehy’s famous for talking smack to Gretzky, and then eating his words. And also the time where 6 year old YLB threw snowballs at him at an autograph signing/appearance thing
Ron and Fez 11 to 3
by YvonLabresMoustache on Nov 25, 2009 8:17 AM EST up reply actions
That should be “YLM”, not “YLB”.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Nov 25, 2009 8:18 AM EST up reply actions
This is a fair assessment, though obviously I want all of you guys to see it happen too (Even BP and F&B)
Familiar Rapports: Bald Pollack, F&B, Gould Old Days.
Lobbies: Osala, Perreault, Erskine, Pothier, Neuvirth, Flash.
Fan of: Mean Lars Backstrom, Line Mashing, Cake.
I wanted Abe to see it. [pours a little out]
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My brother!
"Good luck and God speed, Ben. See you on the other side of the pitch."
by Bald Pollack on Nov 25, 2009 8:25 AM EST up reply actions
To that first video: Someday will people look back at the rock the red rockstar whing with brooks, green, ovi, and jose and think the same thing?
Yes. And that day was the day after it was released.
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by J.P. on Nov 25, 2009 9:23 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
It may well have been late evening on the day of…yikes!
by mechanicsville on Nov 25, 2009 12:58 PM EST up reply actions
The Blues didn’t seem to think Stevens was worth paying more than one season. They wanted Shanhan more, yes? Hindsight is whachamajigger and all that.
But Brawndo's got what plants crave. It's got electrolytes.
They lost Stevens in compensation for signing Shanahan from NJ. Led to the first lockout in 94.
Stevens would not have the opportunity to continue his success in St. Louis. In the offseason following the 1990–91 NHL season, the Blues signed Brendan Shanahan from the New Jersey Devils.12 Like Stevens the year before, Shanahan was a restricted free agent, and thus the Devils were entitled to compensation. The teams could not agree on what the compensation was; the Blues offered goalie Curtis Joseph, forward Rod Brind’Amour, and two draft picks, but the Devils wanted Stevens.12 The case went to arbitration, and a judge ruled that Stevens was to be awarded to the Devils in September 1991.118 Stevens ended the year winning the Canada Cup with Team Canada.
Ron and Fez 11 to 3
by YvonLabresMoustache on Nov 25, 2009 11:18 AM EST up reply actions
In case anyone is wondering about who the 5 picks we got from STL were used on, here’s an old article from 2000:
It is interesting to note that all five of the players that the Capitals got for Stevens are Free Agents this summer. Already, the first one of them has left: Miika Elomo was traded to Calgary two weeks ago. Trevor Halverson is still battling his concussion that he sustained last year, and may not play next season. Nolan Baumgartner will probably re-sign and start the season in the AHL once again. Sergei Gonchar and Brendan Witt are both expected to return to the Capitals, but since they are Restricted Free Agents – if they sign an offer sheet with another team – the whole cycle could start over again.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Nov 25, 2009 11:21 AM EST up reply actions
And here’s even more (from our archives), on how Stevens is the gift that keeps on giving.
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Semen Varlamov FTW
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Nov 25, 2009 11:25 AM EST up reply actions
Then there are the outright celebratory tones being voiced in some corners of the Interwebs. [OFB]
I honestly didn’t sense this tone until the very last sentence of the article. I thought he touched on the positives and negatives of his legacy pretty fairly. It’s funny how one closing sentence can change the entire impression of an article. I personally felt the brief blurb published yesterday when the news broke was more insensitive than this article.
"If you're gonna die after 24, might as well jump out at 23:59, no?"
by Laich It Or Lump It on Nov 25, 2009 8:15 AM EST up reply actions
There’s a time and a place for everything, and that wasn’t the time. You want to harbor bitter feelings, that’s okay. Save it for later.
There’s a time and a place for everything, and that wasn’t the time.
Precisely what I was thinking when I read it, especially the ending. No reason for that. I might add that the part about Stevens was totally slanted. No mention of the limo incident. I lost a lot of respect for pucksandbooks after reading that. Pollin wasn’t perfect, none of us are. However, there is absolutely no reason to dump on a man less than 24 hours after he dies.
A man gotta have a code
There is this ongoing perception that Abe absolutely hated hockey. Clearly, it wasn’t his favorite sport, but he didn’t hate it like certain people make it out to be. A little history: back in the 70’s/80’s my season tickets were in section 108 of the old Capital Centre. That’s in the lower bowl inside the blue line. Good seats but not great. For all those seasons, Abe Pollin’s seats were directly across the aisle from me (meaning they were worse than mine) and for virtually every game I was there ( which was practically all of them) Abe was there. Beyond that, he was in his seat when the puck dropped and he stayed to the final horn. And a lot of times, he was there by himself. And he did this for decades. Name me another owner who sits in the stands, in non-prime seats and stays the entire game. Abe may not have loved hockey like basketball, but he cared about the team and OFB can’t tell me different.
The glaring problem I saw was the “salute to better ice.” As for Washington being a hockey town, I got the impression that pucksandbooks wanted to thank Abe Pollin for making DC a hockey town. If it weren’t for him there wouldn’t have been a DC squad in the first place.
by red army line on Nov 25, 2009 10:03 AM EST up reply actions
I personally felt the brief blurb published yesterday when the news broke was more insensitive than this article.
which brief blurb? The one the Post got up within minutes of being notified of his death?
Yes. They stated the facts of his death and then immediately mentioned the business implications rather than expressing any condolences. Then they concluded with this line:
It’s a new era in Washington wintertime sports.
Hardly a way to conclude a post detailing someone’s death.
"If you're gonna die after 24, might as well jump out at 23:59, no?"
by Laich It Or Lump It on Nov 25, 2009 9:51 AM EST up reply actions
I only saw the original 2 paragraph “Abe Pollin has died, no details available, he owned the Wizards and brought hockey to Washington, and donated a gazillion dollars to charity” announcement, then left work for a party. By the time I actually got home, there was a five page story posted online. Apparently, I missed some stuff!
Here is the link. They added some videos since I last checked it.
"If you're gonna die after 24, might as well jump out at 23:59, no?"
by Laich It Or Lump It on Nov 25, 2009 10:00 AM EST up reply actions
They would have had the obituary pre-written, as journalists do as a standard practice for most public figures. At the very least, they would have had all the details at their fingertips. Given Mr. Pollin’s advanced age and illness, and his importance to the revitalization of the Chinatown area in DC, I would be floored if they didn’t have a majority of it right there.
by IRockTheRed on Nov 25, 2009 10:32 AM EST up reply actions
Literally speaking, no problem with that. It is a new era because the guy who brought hockey to DC just passed away, and the guy who owned the Wiz to boot. But it certainly gives the impression that the new era will be better. Can’t put my finger onto the reason why.
by red army line on Nov 25, 2009 10:05 AM EST up reply actions
That line struck me the wrong way. There seems to be no sympathy present in that post at all, so if that line was supposed to have a positive connotation, it was lost on me.
"If you're gonna die after 24, might as well jump out at 23:59, no?"
by Laich It Or Lump It on Nov 25, 2009 10:11 AM EST up reply actions
Can’t put my finger onto the reason why
There seems to be no sympathy present in that post at all
That must be it.
by red army line on Nov 25, 2009 10:15 AM EST up reply actions
I’ll throw this one out there are a random WTF from the last paragraph of the times article:
While the agreement involving Leonsis was rarely discussed publicly, it has been credited with attracting some workers to the Caps and Mystics. In recent years, several Caps employees quietly acknowledged they accepted positions with the team because of the chance to one day work for all three franchises.
Maybe when Angelos dies they’ll conclude with “It’s a new day in Baltimore”.
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by Killer_Carlson on Nov 25, 2009 2:05 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
it’ll conclude with “And people were partying in the streets.”
by RedBirdie on Nov 25, 2009 2:07 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Or if Carcetti is elected mayor.
"If you're gonna die after 24, might as well jump out at 23:59, no?"
by Laich It Or Lump It on Nov 25, 2009 2:08 PM EST up reply actions
I honestly didn’t sense this tone until the very last sentence of the article.
I got the sense from the very beginning, when they establish their “parents should love their children equally” theme. It was already downhill from there. And as has been mentioend before on here, the Scott Stevens thing is 20/20 hindsight. I remember that summer. I remember my impressions of it. At that time Stevens was no HOFer — he elevated his game with the Devils later — but he was already very good. Still, when the Blues made their offer, my brother and I thought it was a market-changing contract (and it probably was). With the limo incident still very fresh, and with 5 First Round picks coming the Caps way, I wasn’t surprised at all that they didn’t match. And I was excited to see what the picks would bring.
There are examples of Pollin being stingy through the years, but I’m convinced Scott Stevens was a hockey decision, and not a bad one given what they knew at the time.
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Nov 25, 2009 10:15 AM EST up reply actions
I don’t disagree on the Stevens issue. The tone that was mentioned in the preface to the link was “celebratory.” I read that first paragraph, and the tone of the article in general, as bitter, not celebratory. The only celebratory part of the article I sensed was the final paragraph:
This Thanksgiving I’m going to raise a glass in salute to better ice, and Washington as a hockey town. I think I know who I have to thank for that.
That’s why I said that final sentence (ok, short paragraph) changed my impression of the article.
"If you're gonna die after 24, might as well jump out at 23:59, no?"
by Laich It Or Lump It on Nov 25, 2009 10:21 AM EST up reply actions
I think I know who I have to thank for that.
Ted?
"I think the relentless negative coverage in The Washington Post is a real difference from previous years," Redskins general counsel David Donovan said. "But in terms of the way our actual fans are behaving, we don't see any difference."
I e-mailed pucksandbooks about the piece. He graciously responded to me and we have exchanged e-mails back and forth. He seems to believe there was nothing wrong with his piece and says he received positive feedback on it. I give him credit for responding to me, but I still completely dislike the tone of the piece and Stevens part.
A man gotta have a code
by Carl Putnam on Nov 25, 2009 11:29 AM EST up reply actions
I wonder if any of the OFB guys read over here anymore. I seem to remember them commenting a couple times on older posts. Maybe then he would reevaluate the positive feedback he’s been receiving.
"If you're gonna die after 24, might as well jump out at 23:59, no?"
by Laich It Or Lump It on Nov 25, 2009 11:34 AM EST up reply actions
Just because you receive positive feedback, that doesn’t mean that everyone loves you. More people are unlikely to provide any comment at all.
Back when I was allowed to read that thing, I caught them in numerous lies when I exchanged e-mails.
Furthermore, lets face some sad facts here, there are plenty of other classless jerks out there so I have no doubt they’ve recieved kudos for what they wrote.
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Everybody Wang Chung......
Please load brain before shooting off mouth.™
Back when I was allowed to read that thing, I caught them in numerous lies when I exchanged e-mails.
What do you mean by that? Just curious.
"If you're gonna die after 24, might as well jump out at 23:59, no?"
by Laich It Or Lump It on Nov 25, 2009 1:02 PM EST up reply actions
You didn’t know?
They banned me from reading their blog.
Not just commenting, reading the thing.
They blocked my IP’s from accessing it.
And I’ve seen other people make similar comments (being banned from reading the site) and yet they claimed I was the only reader/commentator that they had a problem with!
Now mind you, I could if I wanted to employ things like Google cache search and IP Masks, but considering the drivel they were posting that got me so worked up in the first place, I don’t bother and reading the comments here today, it is as if they haven’t changed a bit.
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Everybody Wang Chung......
Please load brain before shooting off mouth.™
Gotcha. I didn’t hear about that, but it’s good to know. It would be pretty easy to get around an IP address block, but like you said, not worth it.
"If you're gonna die after 24, might as well jump out at 23:59, no?"
by Laich It Or Lump It on Nov 25, 2009 1:15 PM EST up reply actions
They’re infamous for editing comments too, of course. Commenters who post dissent or who challenge OFB on the veracity of its posts are likely to find their comment edited into high, holy praise of the post they were questioning. Pure twittery. That blog is about as useful as the SJS in spring.
The worst thing about that blog is the holier-than-thou and serious-business tone. Blech.
My ability to post is only surpassed by my ability to pinch pennies.
without a doubt, that’s the worst part of OFB. And the writing isn’t even that great, but they act like its Holy Scripture.
It’s an opinion, a blog. Take it for that and that alone.
But Brawndo's got what plants crave. It's got electrolytes.
They’re infamous for editing comments too, of course. Commenters who post dissent or who challenge OFB on the veracity of its posts are likely to find their comment edited into high, holy praise of the post they were questioning.
Heh, that’s new.
They would simply delete my comments when I would point out their follies and outright mistakes. The only thing they could never tolerate more than being told that they were utterly wrong about something was being proven that they were utterly wrong about something.
Those posts had to be removed.
For those of you who are allowed to read their prose, do they still bitterly complain about the lack of College Hockey coverage by the local media?
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Everybody Wang Chung......
Please load brain before shooting off mouth.™
I’m not sure what point is here? For those of us who were around during this so-called scandal it’s 20 year old news. Guilty or innocent they were judged before trial by the media just like the Duke Lacrosse team.
Watching NHL players play with the puck without NHL defense bearing down on them always leaves me a little bit amazed. Green is no different, what amazing hands and stick skills.
by Knee high to a duck on Nov 25, 2009 7:23 AM EST reply actions
Any excitement over the return of King Karl, or is it just me?
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I’m raising my virtual hand.
Hopefully the organization sees it as a chance to evaluate Alzner and see if he’s at a point where they can jettison some of the guys who’ve been on the NHL roster so far.
How do you trade and injured D? One that’s a liability? And at least one that’s over paid? Not disagreeing with you, I’m just saying the circumstances that allowed Alzner to come up also make it harder to move the guys we need to move.
If consequences dictate the course of action, then it doesn't matter what's right, it's only wrong if you get caught. If consequences dictate the course of action, then I should play God...
I’m with you. Now stop adding comments in this post so I can get to your other post. I’d give away Mo’ Juice for an Easton Stealth at this point.
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I’d Mike Green Erskine for even less.
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by J.P. on Nov 25, 2009 1:46 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
I see what you did there…
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by Killer_Carlson on Nov 25, 2009 2:10 PM EST up reply actions
Now look…the guy asked all of us not to hate less than 48 hours ago! You should be ashamed!
That said, I’m so with you on Erskine. It’s scary to say, but I thik #4’s getting worse.
by mechanicsville on Nov 25, 2009 2:17 PM EST up reply actions
I got it. The hold up was that my sarcastic humor did not translate well because of my Danish upbringing.
by mechanicsville on Nov 25, 2009 2:24 PM EST up reply actions
Nope. I was using “Mike Green” in the place of “give away.”
Jokes are so much better when you have to explain them.
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Man, my feelings exactly. I totally got your Mike Green/Giveaway thing! And I just had to try to be funny,too…
Thanks, btw, for the new avatar idea.
by mechanicsville on Nov 25, 2009 2:59 PM EST up reply actions
So Greener’s new nickname is Give Away! rather than Game Over!
"I think the relentless negative coverage in The Washington Post is a real difference from previous years," Redskins general counsel David Donovan said. "But in terms of the way our actual fans are behaving, we don't see any difference."
Honestly I’m more curious to see what they’re doing to accommodate him, his salary and Snoop Dogg moustache.
"Good luck and God speed, Ben. See you on the other side of the pitch."
by Bald Pollack on Nov 25, 2009 7:39 AM EST up reply actions
On a simplistic level – Knuble on LTIR; I believe Laing is too but no confirmation. Send A Gordon and Carlson down. Use performance bonus cushion space available from Backstrom, Perreault, Beagle and Alzner.
With Poti out and Morrisonn doubtful and the return of righty Jurcina, it makes sense that they would recall Alzner.
Knuble on LTIR alone is sufficient, if I recall my numbers correctly.
…and I do: Knuble is $2,800,000. Alzner is $1,675,000.
FWIW, it is not as simple as a one for one. Beagle was also recalled and is still on the roster. And whether it is more than just Knuble on LTIR has to do with all of the transactions over the last week plus, not just this one. I’d have to review the transactions to see if there were any other changes I am not recalling. Neuvirth and Beagle were recalled. Next, Carlson was recalled. Then, Neuvirth was sent down and Gordon recalled.
Perreault was already on the roster before Knuble and then Laing were injured.
I mentioned it in yesterday’s clips thread and have little else to base it on other than past history and hunches, but the overthinking part of me that says it might be Poti that’s going to LTIR.
All things taken at face value, Juice comes back tonight with (in no order) 52-55-2-4, with 89 as a fallback. ShaMo is taking pregame skates as I understand, so even if he were to come back say, Saturday, Karl stays in the group, rotating healthy scratches, with Sloan playing 4th line roles.
"Good luck and God speed, Ben. See you on the other side of the pitch."
by Bald Pollack on Nov 25, 2009 9:32 AM EST up reply actions
Thanks as always sk8. I think Neuvirth is the big one, because the team was carrying 3 goalies on the cap for a while there, and his cap hit isn’t far off the difference between Alzner and Carlson.
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Nov 25, 2009 10:18 AM EST up reply actions
$1,675,000 vs. $845,833 + $821,666 – you may be right.
by IRockTheRed on Nov 25, 2009 10:35 AM EST up reply actions
For sure, especially if he gets more than 10 minutes tonight.
by Knee high to a duck on Nov 25, 2009 7:41 AM EST up reply actions
Hopefully his call up doesn’t start with a solid game then end with a sub-12 minute night where BB praises him for being one of the only + defensemen.
Of all our iniquities ignorance may be the worst
by Killer_Carlson on Nov 25, 2009 2:13 PM EST up reply actions
I would be if I could actually watch the game. That’s the downside of going home. No cable.
"If you're gonna die after 24, might as well jump out at 23:59, no?"
by Laich It Or Lump It on Nov 25, 2009 7:56 AM EST up reply actions
We’re lucky to have a great radio guy for the games… shame he’s not on FM. Get with it, WTOP, you have multiple channels that come in crystal-clear all over the region, but a live sporting event has to go to AM? Not cool.
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I’m ok with AM tonight, because I have to go out to the shore, and if the ionosphere or whatever is cooperating, I can get Caps games all the way to Rehoboth!
What does one do at the shore in mid-November? Scrubbing oil off of ducks? (Or cooking them with dressing and cranberry?)
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That’s the best time of year to be down there – less fratty, more chill. I love Rehobo and Dewey in the off season…
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“less fratty.” That’s a good way of putting it.
"If you're gonna die after 24, might as well jump out at 23:59, no?"
by Laich It Or Lump It on Nov 25, 2009 10:14 AM EST up reply actions
also, no lines at Thrasher’s.
This is just a quick out and back trip to see my mom. And see how badly the storm wrecked the beach (apparently, real bad)
Yeah, it’s not good. Would’ve devastated Bethany had they not built up those huge dunes a couple of years ago.
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In general, I like Kolbe. My only problem is that he gets really excited about minor details of the game. The way he calls a cleared puck is the same way others would call a goal. If I’m not paying close enough attention, it sounds like we scored when it was really something minor. Maybe some people like that.
"If you're gonna die after 24, might as well jump out at 23:59, no?"
by Laich It Or Lump It on Nov 25, 2009 10:14 AM EST up reply actions
He could also stand to mention the score a bit more frequently.
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Radio announcers can never announce the score enough. I don’t know any announcers except maybe Charlie Sloan who don’t have that issue.
Familiar Rapports: Bald Pollack, F&B, Gould Old Days.
Lobbies: Osala, Perreault, Erskine, Pothier, Neuvirth, Flash.
Fan of: Mean Lars Backstrom, Line Mashing, Cake.
by Whiter Mage on Nov 25, 2009 10:16 AM EST up reply actions
Cuz if Tyler Sloan is announcing the score something is horribly wrong.
by red army line on Nov 25, 2009 1:43 PM EST up reply actions
I think Kolbe is terrible. I have no idea what’s going on with the game when he calls it. I remember the AO “spin off the boards, goal from his ass” goal against MON. I was driving home when Kolbe made the call and I had no idea how sweet that play was until I got home. Then there was another goal where Backstrom hit AO on a backdoor pass from the top of the circle to the far side of the slot, tape to tape. Kolbe made it sound like a goal mouth scrum when it was one of the most beautiful passes ever. I’ve got no love for him at all.
If consequences dictate the course of action, then it doesn't matter what's right, it's only wrong if you get caught. If consequences dictate the course of action, then I should play God...
For those of you who read my stuff, you know I am a huge Alzner supporter. I think he should have been with the team since day 1 but that situation with #92 and the salary cap implications prevented that. I have a hard time believing he is not one of our top 6 defensemen already. I expect a good game from #27 tonight.
Unless there’s something happening that’s preventing this from being what it is (a cup of coffee, or slightly more if Poti’s going on LTIR), what Ed’s mentioned is essentially the reason why I’m “meh” about it. If he’s coming up, then hopefully there are things going on right now to keep him up.
"Good luck and God speed, Ben. See you on the other side of the pitch."
by Bald Pollack on Nov 25, 2009 8:25 AM EST up reply actions
Right. But if he plays lights out, it might even force things that aren’t currently in the works.
I’m more than “meh” for the simple fact that I know he’s a better defenseman than at least one or two of the guys who’ve been suiting up on the blueline, and any upgrade at the moment is welcomed.
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Fair enough, and wholeheartedly with you on the latter.
Slightly OT, but have you (or any Rinkers) gone to the Bell? Thoughts/recommendations?
"Good luck and God speed, Ben. See you on the other side of the pitch."
by Bald Pollack on Nov 25, 2009 8:34 AM EST up reply actions
I’ve not, but I’m sure we’ve got some who’ve been up there, certainly for the draft if not for a game.
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Is that the same building as the Molson Center? Or is it a new building. I went to a game at the Molson Center in HS.
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I want to see him play again. He is definitely no worse than 3 of our current guys right now. Hopefully he’ll be up for good if a certain Swede somehow finally makes up his mind about moving plans.
Now if he truly is a King maybe he could decree that his teammates learn to finish off inferior teams and not take ridiculous penalties, especially when in the offensive zone. If he does that and I’ll be his subject for life.
A man gotta have a code
King Karl has already played for the Caps against the Sabres this year. Here’s a few minutes of poorly filmed footage of (I think) the first preseason game this year in Buffalo. But it’s filmed in VarlyView right at ice level, and I wouldn’t mind if we could see more games this way:
If I’m not mistaken, this was the Caps’ very first preseason game. It has a very chocolate flavor, with Alznerson, Giroux, Sloan, and Collins all getting ice time. You can also see Knuble parking himself in the crease and getting harried by a Sabres defenseman, and Brendan Morrison being quietly professional and generally being in the exact place to assist the team at all times.
And even in a early preseason match, this game is head-spinningly fast. The puck leaves and reappears in the blink of an eye.
SO FĐŻIENDS, IS BATTLE NOW.
I see that Alzner has a proper NHL sweater number – 27.
During the broadcast of Caps-Sens on Monday, JoeB remarked that with all the sweater numbers in the 80s, it looked like the Caps were fielding a bunch of wide receivers.
SO FĐŻIENDS, IS BATTLE NOW.
He was 47 for his first game, though. That’s not really a wrong sweater number on the other hand. I’d like Perreault to be able to pick his own number soon, personally, because then I wouldn’t feel bad snagging a sweater.
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Fan of: Mean Lars Backstrom, Line Mashing, Cake.
He wears/wore 24 in Hershey, no? Didn’t the Caps retire that when Matt Cooke left, or am I misremembering events again?
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I’m pretty sure they did, in a formal event where he got down on one knee and actually had the other knee knighted.
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Lobbies: Osala, Perreault, Erskine, Pothier, Neuvirth, Flash.
Fan of: Mean Lars Backstrom, Line Mashing, Cake.
And Sir Knee has gone on to slay the knees of many other players.
"If you're gonna die after 24, might as well jump out at 23:59, no?"
by Laich It Or Lump It on Nov 25, 2009 9:04 AM EST up reply actions
I prefer Sir Loin
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Nov 25, 2009 10:27 AM EST up reply actions
I wouldn’t look at a number a player wears in Hershey and assume it is a number they chose. I am not saying a player never has a say, but Hershey assigns numbers in most instances. Also, IIRC he wore 16 in juniors.
He did. But 16 is taken here. And I didn’t assume he chose 24 there.
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In the Rookies game a year or two ago Perrault wore 85 (and Alzner wore 47)
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Nov 25, 2009 10:29 AM EST up reply actions
I only got 9 pics from that scrimmage before the batteries in my crappy camera died….d’oh!
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Nov 25, 2009 10:33 AM EST up reply actions
Took my son to his first Caps game a year ago today (day before Thanksgiving I should say) and we saw Alzner’s debut v. the Thrashers. Good memories.
by mechanicsville on Nov 25, 2009 1:11 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Gosh, what a nice avatar.
"Camaraderie, that's what the Washington Capitals are all about."
by CapitalCentre on Nov 25, 2009 1:46 PM EST up reply actions
I use an 85 flex stick.. I’m thinking I need a 15 flex stick to get someone to take a photograph of me doing that. =)
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I’m thinking I need a 15 flex stick pipecleaner to get someone to take a photograph of me doing that
"I think the relentless negative coverage in The Washington Post is a real difference from previous years," Redskins general counsel David Donovan said. "But in terms of the way our actual fans are behaving, we don't see any difference."
Ha. It wouldn’t matter what kind of stick I used, nobody wants to take pictures of me on the ice regardless. And I’ve mentioned it before but I’ll say it again: beware all who want to go to a flexier stick, it is much harder to control your shots.
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All the credit goes to Laich It or Lump It. He posted this pic in one of yesterday’s threads and I grabbed it.
by mechanicsville on Nov 25, 2009 2:09 PM EST up reply actions
Actually JP posted it. I said it would make a nice avatar.
"If you're gonna die after 24, might as well jump out at 23:59, no?"
by Laich It Or Lump It on Nov 25, 2009 2:10 PM EST up reply actions
Yep. Continuity.
"Camaraderie, that's what the Washington Capitals are all about."
by CapitalCentre on Nov 25, 2009 2:26 PM EST up reply actions
Roger, that. And thank you, too, dear moderator,for the snazzy new avatar. You really ought to learn how to keep quiet when someone’s giving you credit…;)
by mechanicsville on Nov 25, 2009 2:34 PM EST up reply actions
Eh, I give credit where it’s due.
"If you're gonna die after 24, might as well jump out at 23:59, no?"
by Laich It Or Lump It on Nov 25, 2009 2:40 PM EST up reply actions
That pic DMG used yesterday of Greener has some pretty awesome stick flex going on in it, too. I may use that pic later, once 52 stops coughing up pucks at the blueline in OT.
by mechanicsville on Nov 25, 2009 2:46 PM EST up reply actions
Sporcle quiz on all time leading goal scorers
Minor spoiler, there are two Lemieuxs and the higher total isn’t the one you’d guess.
by Knee high to a duck on Nov 25, 2009 7:58 AM EST reply actions
22/26 (missed four in the right column). I was pretty impressed with myself.
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17/26 (Delete my post above if you can, JP for obvious reasons). I didn’t even think about that until now.
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Fan of: Mean Lars Backstrom, Line Mashing, Cake.
I only got 16 and missed a couple of serious groaners.
by Knee high to a duck on Nov 25, 2009 8:22 AM EST up reply actions
19/26
Here is a real good Sporcle quiz: all time leaders in goals, assists, wins and PIM for all 30 current franchises. I got 100/120. 15 of my 20 misses were the PIM leaders.
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by Killer_Carlson on Nov 25, 2009 2:41 PM EST up reply actions
This quiz is a ballbuster, I only got 73 and only got three of the PIM leaders.
by Knee high to a duck on Nov 25, 2009 6:33 PM EST up reply actions
From a chat with Pens beat writer Dave Molinari:
Q: Why in the world is Chris Bourque in the Pens’ lineup when you have two thoroughbreds in Eric Tangradi and Luca Caputi in Wilkes-Barre? He doesn’t have one-tenth the talent that his dad had.
Brian Pietro, Weirton, W. Va.
MOLINARI: Bourque has done absolutely nothing during his time with the Penguins to suggest that he can be a significant contributor, let alone an impact player, at this level. However, the fact that his talents don’t begin to approach those of his father, Hall of Fame defenseman Raymond Bourque, has nothing to do with anything. Judging Chris Bourque’s work by the standards set by his father is neither fair nor meaningful. After all, it’s not as if the Penguins had to choose between the two.
As for Tangradi and Caputi, both have a chance to fill prominent roles for the Penguins in coming seasons. That doesn’t mean they’re ready to step in and contribute at this level now, however. Caputi is in his second season of pro hockey and Tangradi is in his first. It would be downright irresponsible for the Penguins to retard their long-term development by putting them in the NHL before they are ready.
The bottom line is that the fact that Bourque is in the NHL while those two guys still are in the American Hockey League shouldn’t be interpreted as a statement on what management feels about their respective potential.
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Pens nation is suffering from a serious bout of Bourque Derangement syndrome this year. Go read any comments page. It’s a litter box of “why haven’t we sent him to WBS yet?!”
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Schadenfreude.
-noun
Satisfaction or pleasure felt at someone else’s misfortune.
I feels it.
by IRockTheRed on Nov 25, 2009 9:08 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Have you watched the games? He’s not doing himself any favors.
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I’ve watched what I can, as I’m not buying Center Ice again until it goes HD. He’s definitely looked poor, but he makes better passes and better decisions than a couple of the barely-NHL-worthy fourth liners Pittsburgh is stuck with (Rupp’s success aside). Problem is, he’s never going to be tougher than ‘scrapper’, so he can’t play there, and the Pens have been spoiled by a world-class third line (Cooke – Staal – Kennedy) for a while.
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Seems like a pretty well-reasoned response to me. Especially the part about comparing him to his father.
"If you're gonna die after 24, might as well jump out at 23:59, no?"
by Laich It Or Lump It on Nov 25, 2009 9:07 AM EST up reply actions
Well, we had four years to know not to do that. Maybe Pens Nation isn’t that smartyet.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Nov 25, 2009 10:35 AM EST up reply actions
Just wondering, if CBo does go on waivers would the Caps grab him back, even if it means just sending him to Hershey?
I think he’d have to immediately clear waivers again to go to Hershey. Also, there’s no reason not to, and I think the fear of this is why the Penguins haven’t tried sending him down.
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Fan of: Mean Lars Backstrom, Line Mashing, Cake.
If Bourque was places on waivers and the only NHL club that put in a waiver claim was the original club that waived him (i.e., the Washington Capitals), the Caps could assign him to the AHL/Hershey without waivers, as in essence it is the same as having cleared waivers.
With the added benefit of not having had to have paid for him for a while and getting to see a bit more of what he can(’t) do at the NHL level.
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Always dislike reading recent posts of mine and seeing typos, lol, should say “was placed”; the above is what would happen if they did put in a claim and they were the only team, it does not mean they would or would not put in a claim.
It would be interesting at this point to see if they would put in a claim or not. I still think there is a good chance that they would.
Why take up a roster space with a guy that isn’t going to make an impact at the NHL level? Leave that space open so that one of the other kids can get more ice.
"I think the relentless negative coverage in The Washington Post is a real difference from previous years," Redskins general counsel David Donovan said. "But in terms of the way our actual fans are behaving, we don't see any difference."
Did anyone else read the second paragraph in the Ted’s fanatic post and see “As we were eating a young man…”
and due to the lack of a comma or something.. think.. “Hmm.. Ted was eating a young man?”
I was too busy visualizing the hot lather shave. That and the fact that ĂĽber-rich people eat young men all the time, it’s just not widely reported.
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I was too busy visualizing the hot lather shave.
I was doing the same. Perhaps I’m just a weird fellow, but there are videos on youtube about barber shop shaves and they are pretty relaxing.
"If you're gonna die after 24, might as well jump out at 23:59, no?"
by Laich It Or Lump It on Nov 25, 2009 9:29 AM EST up reply actions
There’s a Vietnamese barber’s in Woodbridge that does the scorching hot towel thing on the face WHILE they do this weird ninja chop thing on your back.. it’s AWESOME
Where is that? I’m living in Woodbridge right now, and very unhappy with my current barber.
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Lobbies: Osala, Perreault, Erskine, Pothier, Neuvirth, Flash.
Fan of: Mean Lars Backstrom, Line Mashing, Cake.
by Whiter Mage on Nov 25, 2009 11:28 AM EST up reply actions
Ashdale shopping plaza I think. It’s a pretty big place for a barbers. That was 3 years ago though. It’s probably still there
Oh, the one across the street from K-Mart/McDonalds/El Charro?
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Fan of: Mean Lars Backstrom, Line Mashing, Cake.
by Whiter Mage on Nov 25, 2009 11:50 AM EST up reply actions
Not sure.. I just remember it was off Dale on the right if going west from 95.
Tons of sports illustrated magazines in there too from what I remember.. a nice break from the vietnamese place here in White Oak, MD that has nothing but home and garden
Laich It, you may be interested in this site
Has a whole variety of classic shaving products and razors and other sorts of cool things for serious shavers.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Nov 25, 2009 11:30 AM EST up reply actions
Cool thanks. For some reason I find this stuff interesting and relaxing. It’s ironic because my beard grows in pretty poorly. I guess that’s why I have to shave, haha.
"If you're gonna die after 24, might as well jump out at 23:59, no?"
by Laich It Or Lump It on Nov 25, 2009 11:38 AM EST up reply actions
there are videos on youtube about barber shop shaves and they are pretty relaxing
Now why on Earth would you think that perhaps you’re a weird fellow? Doesn’t everyone look for video of hot lather shaves on YouTube?! :)
by mechanicsville on Nov 25, 2009 1:18 PM EST up reply actions
Laich gets most of his bruises in the area between his legs, near his groin. Hockey pants only provide so much padding there, and it’s not nearly enough when you take a hard slapper in the area as you leap to either screen the goalie or deflect the shot.
Fight, you time-wasting figure skaters!
I’m pretty sure the bruises in his groin region have nothing to do with pucks.
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Fan of: Mean Lars Backstrom, Line Mashing, Cake.
by Whiter Mage on Nov 25, 2009 9:26 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Patrick Thoreson scoffs
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Nov 25, 2009 10:44 AM EST up reply actions
Patrick Thoreson scoffs in high C
Fixed that for you.
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by J.P. on Nov 25, 2009 10:53 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
When that happened, I didn’t realize right away that he’d been hit in the stones…I thought he’d been hit in the leg. When they showed the replay and it was clear what had happened, I think everyone in the room just went “oof!” and turned away
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Nov 25, 2009 10:55 AM EST up reply actions
In the arena, we were yelling “Get the hell up!” because we didn’t want a whistle during the Caps powerplay that was ongoing.
My ability to post is only surpassed by my ability to pinch pennies.
I’d never seen anyone dragged off the ice like that before, so I knew it was something pretty serious. I just didn’t know it was THAT serious.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Nov 25, 2009 11:01 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah, I had no idea he took it in the nads until I got home. Felt a lot more sorry for him then.
My ability to post is only surpassed by my ability to pinch pennies.
Was he just not wearing a cup? How could ANY professional athlete go out there without a cup? The only one i’ve heard that doesn’t on purpose is Adrian Beltre, and he’s insane.
Of course, if the shot BROKE the cup and still did that to his balls, i’m even more impressed/disturbed.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Nov 25, 2009 11:05 AM EST up reply actions
At that moment, he was not a Flyer. I was not a Caps fan. We were both just men – one in otherworldly pain and one with an enormous amount of empathy.
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Enormous amount of empathy as long as the goal stood.
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Empathy?
the intellectual identification with or vicarious experiencing of the feelings, thoughts, or attitudes of another.per Dictionary.com
Ouch, that must’ve hurt.
by red army line on Nov 25, 2009 1:45 PM EST up reply actions
And it’s official – Caps recall Alzner.
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(Also posted on the front page, for further discussion on the King and the implications of the move)
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Once again, I am assuming that not announcing the recall until this morning saves a day on the cap (or the LTIR exception, as the case is).
The Caps are saving against the performance bonus cushion perhaps. If they are using LTIR, they aren’t banking cap space on these days for this season, but they would still be managing the bonus cushion issue for next season and days on the roster for individual players, and actual salary being paid out.
I have to re-read this section, but I am pretty sure Andrew Gordon and Carlson counted against the cap yesterday since they practiced with the team and weren’t sent down until later in the day. And I don’t think they had room for Alzner, Gordon and Carlson at the same time in terms of cap space or roster slots.
“Scott Niedermayer, Dan Boyle, Dion Phaneuf and Green are trying to make the Canadian roster as production providers from the back end.”
-From the CBC article
Probably only one of those four makes the Olympic team. If Phaneuf gets selected and not Green, there should be an investigation. Same with Boyle. Niedermayer is a different story. If he’s the guy Mike needs to beat out, then I don’t have much hope for Green.
I’m actually with JP on this one – I’d like as few Caps playing in the olympics as possible. The only unfortunate thing about that list is the other three D are on Western Conference teams.
I think two of the four, at least do, as I think Nieds and Boyle are near-locks. Here’s my top six for CAN:
Pronger
Niedermayer
Boyle
Weber
Keith
Bouwmeester
That leaves one spot for Green, Phaneuf, Doughty and any other latecomers (or early comers that I’ve simply forgotten).
Frankly, I don’t see how Green makes it. In a single-elimination tourney and with as much talent as the Canadians have up front and in back, and considering the other options, I simply think Green is too high-risk with not a high enough (relative) reward. This doesn’t change my opinion of him as an incredibly valuable NHL defender over an 82-game season, a 7-game playoff series or even a single Game 7… but I don’t think I’d pencil him in if I was Stevie Y.
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Hard not to take Doughty, of that bunch with the way he’s been playing.
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Yeah. I’d go with Doughty over JBouw.
by red army line on Nov 25, 2009 10:14 AM EST up reply actions
I’d agree on Doughty. Definitely take him over Jay Bow and I like Jay Bow.
As I said earlier this year when there were OLY 2010 discussions going on here, Green not making the squad is all pluses for Caps fans. Obviously, there is less chance of injury or fatigue. Most importantly though, it probably would result in a highly motivated Mike Green going into the stretch run and playoffs.
A man gotta have a code
by Carl Putnam on Nov 25, 2009 10:32 AM EST up reply actions
I understand about snubs leading to motivation, but I’d hope that the chance to compete for and win a Cup would be motivation enough. There’s a bit too much “me me me” in the idea that personal slights are the best motivation, by my lights.
Of course he’s motivated by the Cup. However, most people get even more motivated when perceived personal slights are involved. It’s human nature. You feel affronted and you want to show people you have skills. Nothing wrong with that at all. The most decorated athlete in my lifetime used such slights (many of them imagined I might add) as fuel for his entire career.
A man gotta have a code
by Carl Putnam on Nov 25, 2009 10:47 AM EST up reply actions
Does the same argument apply to everyone else, like Flash, Ovie, Sasha, Varly, etc?
by red army line on Nov 25, 2009 1:46 PM EST up reply actions
Bouwmeester is so overrated. Maybe the best current example of “the whole is less than the sum of the parts” not named Alex Semin.
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I would say Phaneuf is that guy rather than Bouwmeester.
"I think the relentless negative coverage in The Washington Post is a real difference from previous years," Redskins general counsel David Donovan said. "But in terms of the way our actual fans are behaving, we don't see any difference."
True, Phaneuf is a nominee as well. I’m maintaining that Jay-Bo is overrated, though. If he was a European the Canadian media would be wondering why he can’t be a go to guy, or show up in crunch time, not breaking out the Popsicles for him.
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This. I feel he’s got a reputation bestowed on him by the Canadian media that outstrips his real abilities. If he goes to Vancouver in place of Boyle or Green it’s a travesty.
by Knee high to a duck on Nov 25, 2009 9:56 PM EST up reply actions
I agree that Phaneuf definitely should not be ahead of Green, but I disagree about Boyle. The guy is having a Norris caliber season at both ends of the ice, and should be a lock to make it.
I also echo the support for Doughty to make the team. He is an absolute stud. He’s added offense to his game this year while continuing to be great in his own zone. Plus, he throws a mean hipcheck.
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by Killer_Carlson on Nov 25, 2009 2:50 PM EST up reply actions
It shouldn’t be an important factor, but another is continuity. I wouldn’t be surprised if, aside from Keith, the other “locks” don’t make 2014 (assuming the NHL keeps participating). Doughty would help to have at least 1/3 of a corps that has been there before. And right now I’d say he’s right behind Crosby and Richards as top choice for captain. (of course, this is way into the future).
by red army line on Nov 25, 2009 3:18 PM EST up reply actions
Random discussion question for all of you foreigners, err, people with more familiarity with other languages/cultures and whatnot: Is sarcasm as widespread and prevalent in other cultures as it is here?
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Compared to America, Germany has no sarcasm. But there’s a bit. The British, if I recall, have a lot. I don’t know much about the other countries.
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I’ve been meaning to learn the British language for exactly this reason.
by mechanicsville on Nov 25, 2009 1:23 PM EST up reply actions
same language, but my Irish and English friends are possibly even more sarcastic than your average Rink Rat.
Yeah, I know the Brits are dry as a bone and sarcastic. I was wondering more about some more distant cultures and languages.
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I’ve had a lot of interaction with the French, and they’re pretty sarcastic too.
"Oh, the usual. I bowl. Drive around. The occasional acid flashback."
by The Ghost of Bebop on Nov 25, 2009 10:10 AM EST up reply actions
Oh man, that is hysterical.
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by Killer_Carlson on Nov 25, 2009 2:55 PM EST up reply actions
Did I hear somewhere recently that Danish people don’t get sarcasm at all?
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haha, ok. Coulda sworn somebody told me that or I heard it on TV or something.
I read somewhere that IKEA names a lot of their floor mats and carpeting and other stuff people walk all over after Danish towns. Coincidence?
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I’m ashamed to say I laughed out loud at Locker’s “danish” joke the other night
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Nov 25, 2009 10:40 AM EST up reply actions
What was the danish joke? I got stuck with the Ottawa feed so I missed out on the talking Swedish part as well very disappointing.
Somehow they got on the topic of players from Denmark, I think cause maybe Ottawa had one, and locker made the stock “pastry” reference.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Nov 25, 2009 10:49 AM EST up reply actions
Ah b/c of Peter Regin. The Ottawa feed were quit entertaining at times I did not know for example that Capitals use Fleischmann as a big body in front of the net.
Fleischman’s got to remember to stay within the appropriate margarines.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Nov 25, 2009 11:04 AM EST up reply actions
And Joe B’s Swedish pronunciation was atrocious, which he immediately owned up to.
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I’d die a happy man if somehow we could get the guy in charge of the video at VC to ever play this if backstrom scored a goal:
I’m just glad they play “Rooster” by Alice In Chains whenever Giroux scores in Hershey
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Nov 25, 2009 11:08 AM EST up reply actions
If you get to know Iranians (like me!) then they’re some of the most sarcastic people out there, but depending on who you meet.
Ya freaking grasshopper!
by Steck It Out on Nov 25, 2009 12:48 PM EST up reply actions
So this probably isn’t worth risking? “Yeah, Ahmadinejad, nuke Israel. That’d be a really great idea.”
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Hahah, well, for me, I don’t really talk to people who are all hardline about that political stuff. Granted, I did go to the protests in DC a few months back, but that’s about it. Most of the Iranian people I know don’t support Ahmadinejad, but if they do, I try not to bring it up. As long as you don’t mention politics, you’ll be fine.
Ya freaking grasshopper!
by Steck It Out on Nov 25, 2009 12:55 PM EST up reply actions
Your avatar always makes me want to cue up Strong Bad Sings on the old iPod.
Fight, you time-wasting figure skaters!
“You’ve got an ugly butt….and a stupid…..butt.”
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by Whiter Mage on Nov 25, 2009 12:53 PM EST up reply actions
Such were the daaaaaaaaaaaaaays
Ya freaking grasshopper!
by Steck It Out on Nov 25, 2009 12:56 PM EST up reply actions
Per TEB
[T]he overall injury situation remains bleak. There was no sign of Alexander Semin (wrist), Tom Poti (bruised chest), Boyd Gordon (back) and Shaone Morrisonn (concussion) this morning at KCI.
Interestingly, Morrisonn had appeared to be getting closer to returning in recent days. And now he’s not skating.
Tyler Sloan, meanwhile, was skating with the forwards, so it looks like he’ll play wing.
Update:Semyon Varlamov came off the ice first, which usually means he’ll get the start in goal.
SO FĐŻIENDS, IS BATTLE NOW.
Tarik, we’re all at the point where we understand first off the ice is the starter.
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by Whiter Mage on Nov 25, 2009 10:42 AM EST up reply actions
we do, but do the CI commenters?
ShaMo’s comments about “still being a little foggy” yesterday made me wonder why the hell he was allowed out on the ice in the first place.
“Take a salt tablet.”
"If you're gonna die after 24, might as well jump out at 23:59, no?"
by Laich It Or Lump It on Nov 25, 2009 10:49 AM EST up reply actions
I guess its better he’s a little foggy than being a little Froggy
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Nov 25, 2009 10:51 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah it doesn’t sound like it would be smart for Morrisonn to be playing full contact anytime soon.
Meanwhile, I hope we’ve seen the last of Sloan on D. He’s OK as a fill-in F, I guess, but good god is he brutal along the blueline.
Yeah, I’ve seen enough of Sloan on D. In a pinch to finish a game? Sure. But to start a game? Non, merci.
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Just b/c you and I know what it means…TEB leaves plenty of room for honest criticism. No need to take cheap shots.
by mechanicsville on Nov 25, 2009 1:30 PM EST up reply actions
It doesn’t need to be said every time, I feel. Wasn’t meant as a cheap shot at all.
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Yeah, ok. I’m still trying to get over the fact that neither of our local print media "reporters"followed up on ShaMo’s absence from the 3rd period the other night, and none of us knew anything about what happened til lunch the next day. It’s no wonder newspapers are going out of business.
by mechanicsville on Nov 25, 2009 1:49 PM EST up reply actions
It looks like McPhee has Jeff Rimer’s hair. His current badly dyed hair.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Nov 25, 2009 10:57 AM EST up reply actions
Confirmed: Knuble is on LTIR, eligible to return Dec. 9.
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Yep. It had been my (and yours, I know) working assumption for a while, but this is the first confirmation I’d seen.
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@TarikElBashir Mike Knuble also said that he’s on LTI, so he can’t play until the Buffalo game on Dec. 9.
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@TarikElBashir Mike Knuble is skating for the first time since getting six screws and a plate inserted into his pinky finger on his left hand.
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@TarikElBashir I’m hearing Mike Knuble also said that he’s on LTI, so he can’t play until the Buffalo game on Dec. 9.
Tarik’d?
"Good luck and God speed, Ben. See you on the other side of the pitch."
by Bald Pollack on Nov 25, 2009 11:24 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Nice.
"If you're gonna die after 24, might as well jump out at 23:59, no?"
by Laich It Or Lump It on Nov 25, 2009 11:26 AM EST up reply actions
Yup, but that is because we were doing math, not new math (cue Tom Lehrer) :)
I’m not sure I understand the bonus cushion question that was asked above. Can someone clarify for me, please, and I can try to answer it based on what I do know? Thanks
Bonus question: I thought there’s some provision that instead of apply the bonus cushion to the current year cap calculation, they can elect to defer it to count on next year. i.e., Backtrom’s base salary is, what, about $850,000, but with bonuses is $2,400,000. We know he’s going to get that. But can the team elect to carry it to next year to have room on the cap for this year? Forget for the moment that they won’t because of the cap implications for 2010 probably be lower. Assuming I’m correct on that, the question was whether you can make that decision separately for each player, not for the group as a whole (i.e., the expectation that Alzner won’t make his bonus).
Any clearer?
A little, as we have noted, there is nothing clear in these discussions :)
And I am typing this quickly so hopefully this makes sense.
If a team is at the cap and the only way to have players fit is to defer into the bonus cushion space, then it defers and is settled up at the end of the season. In terms of the following year cap hit, it depends on how much of those bonuses actually are earned when the end of season numbers are tallied. For the amount of the bonus space they use, if the bonuses end up being met, then they have that on their cap hit for the following season. If a team was under the max for the current season, the bonuses simply count against the current year’s cap hit.
In terms of which players bonuses and deferring. The max a team can exceed the cap by using performance bonuses with value up to 7.5% of the cap max. They don’t have to use all of that space and all of the space they use does not have to end up counting depending on bonuses earned.
However, the key in all of this is that it all gets worked out at the end of the season. If the team was using bonus cushion space to start the season, but ended up under the cap by more than the performance bonuses earned when all is settled at season end, nothing would end up counting against the next season’s cap. Again, this is simplistic in terms of how the averaged club salary is calculated, but I think this is the key point.
LTIR space is an exception where you can add players; Knuble still counts against the cap hit, but the team is allowed to replace his cap hit with one or more players. If Alzner’s recall falls 100% within the LTIR space, I don’t think any performance bonus cushion space is being used, technically speaking, for his recall at this time.
by sk84fun_dc on Nov 25, 2009 11:53 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Now Corey’s update:
Mike Knuble is on the ice right now — it is his first time skating since having “multiple breaks” his left pinky finger. He got the stitches out yesterday, and today was the first day he was allowed on the ice.
Knuble said he thought it might just be dislocated when it happened, but then he pulled his glove off and it was “sticking out sideways.” He had six screws and a plate put in his finger, and he’s been limited to riding a bike to this point.
He said he was originally targeting Dec. 5 at Philadelphia for his return, but Knuble is on LTI and isn’t eligible to come off until Dec. 8. So now his target is Dec. 9 at Buffalo.
This isn’t the first finger injury for Knuble — he had four screws put in his left middle finger earlier in his career, and the scar is still pretty evident two fingers over from his current problem.
One more pesudo-injury update: Alexander Semin walked into the dressing room today with a different kind of brace on his right wrist (sorry, no photos this time). This one didn’t cover up his hand like the one from last week. He had clearly been working out, but that’s all I got — the whole language barrier and all.
SO FĐŻIENDS, IS BATTLE NOW.
Just curious, does Corey or Tarik typically break Caps news more quickly?
"If you're gonna die after 24, might as well jump out at 23:59, no?"
by Laich It Or Lump It on Nov 25, 2009 11:46 AM EST up reply actions
I think it’s more of a pseudo-update than an implication that the injury isn’t legit.
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Btw, can I take a moment to express just how much I hate the Buffalo Sabres and their supporters, generally? For me, they’ve been #4 for a while, behind an ever-changing order of Pittsburgh, Philly and the Rags.
OK, glad I got that off my chest.
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by J.P. on Nov 25, 2009 11:12 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Don’t forget their shameful logo and jerseys.
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Am I the only one who liked the black and red jerseys they had in the late 90’s-early 00’s? Not the best in hockey, but definitely not the worst.
Possibly. I vastly prefer the Buffaslug to the “AGGRO” jerseys. Those things looked like they were straight out of that inline beach hockey league ESPN2 used to show.. the one with the ramps behind the net and the three-point line.
I won’t lie, though, that looked like a LOT of fun to play.
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Glen Metropolit was in that league!
Ron and Fez 11 to 3
by YvonLabresMoustache on Nov 25, 2009 12:00 PM EST up reply actions
I was actually thinking of PBH, though a lot of the RHI players apparently played in PBH:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pro_Beach_Hockey
Tell me this doesn’t look fun as heck?
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Can’t respect any hockey league that doesn’t use a puck.
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See, I feel the same way.. I hate ball hockey.. but the whole outdoor, sloped-rink, sloped-glass, two-point-line thing.. it just feels like it would be a lot of fun to play.
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True enough. They do get points for having a team named Salsa, too.
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People like to say salsa.
As true today as it was when it was written.
Seriously, if I somehow fall into a few million dollars, I’m building an inline facility with one PBH style rink!
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Put in a sheet of ice too, and I’m a frequent customer.
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First things first – either one of my games has to become a smash hit, or I have to secretly be the sole heir to some otherworldly fortune.
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Start playing megamillions and betting against Carolina.
My ability to post is only surpassed by my ability to pinch pennies.
What with the credit markets starting to loosen and a low interest rate environment, just go borrow the money. You can figure how to pay it back later. C’mon! All the cool kids are doing it!
by mechanicsville on Nov 25, 2009 2:52 PM EST up reply actions
They could wear pictures of hot chicks making out and use the Japers’ Rink wordmark as a logo and I doubt I’d despise them any less.
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Probably dates back to the ECF series and how many of their fans invaded the VC during the lean years (and how they acted once there). They’re like Pens fans, except with absolutely no reason to be arrogant about their team.
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Same here. A lot of it goes back to that series, and how ESPN (Barry Melrose in particular) spent that entire series and playoffs just expounding the virtues of how wonderful and awesome and great Dominik Hasek and Matthew Barnaby and Mike Peca were. It was the on-air equivalent of french-kissing them for 3 weeks.
Ron and Fez 11 to 3
by YvonLabresMoustache on Nov 25, 2009 11:24 AM EST up reply actions
I recall the commercial ESPN was running of the ice village in Europe where they got a call or a letter or something and a guy ran through town screaming “BUFFALO WON!”. I laugh at it now.
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by Whiter Mage on Nov 25, 2009 11:28 AM EST up reply actions
My hatred of them stems from 2 seasons ago. My dad was inquiring about upgrading his Ticket Package and as incentive our rep got him seats in a box. In the box with us were a dad and his two kids (under 6) myself and my party, and 4 random guys, all in Buffalo sweaters. The guys from Buffalo proceeded to get blackout hammered, dropping f bombs until the dad took his kids out of the box. One of the guys passed out in his chair and another was in the suites bathroom puking by the end of the second period. I was impressed by their high level of class and decorum. I hate to think what the sales rep was thinking.
"I think the relentless negative coverage in The Washington Post is a real difference from previous years," Redskins general counsel David Donovan said. "But in terms of the way our actual fans are behaving, we don't see any difference."
Yeesh. Nothing worse than being near the “drunk guy” when you don’t wanna be near the “drunk guy”. We had one of those behind us last year that kept trying to hit on the girls around him. Quite comical at first, but then became annoying as he kept kicking the back of our seats.
Ron and Fez 11 to 3
by YvonLabresMoustache on Nov 25, 2009 11:28 AM EST up reply actions
The last game I went to, there was a whole pack of em behind us. I’m pretty sure they weren’t supposed to be in the section. All they talked about was getting drunk and how hot various girls were. Not a word about the game. To use JP’s expression, it was pretty fratty.
"If you're gonna die after 24, might as well jump out at 23:59, no?"
by Laich It Or Lump It on Nov 25, 2009 11:31 AM EST up reply actions
Last year I got stuck near a drunk bastard that was trying to keep the hated (by me) C A P S CAPS CAPS CAPS chant going through the entire game. He would only take breaks to drink, go take a piss, or try to start a “WWWAAAAAAAA-AAAAAAAARD” thing against Cam Ward, who was beating us for the majority of the game.
Doofus.
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I remember a game where I was at the old US-Air, sitting two rows above the visitors entrance, and we were playing Montreal, can’t remember. Jocelyn Thibault started in goal, and I was behind a couple who were yelling profanities towards Thibault. They’d also make fun of his name being Jocelyn. “Those pants look so good on you.” He shut us out 4-0, which didn’t make me feel any better about those tools in front of us. I stood up and clapped for them (in my Caps jersey) as the Habs skated off underneath me, just because I felt bad that the guys had ripped on him all night. What kids will do before they turn 10.
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by Whiter Mage on Nov 25, 2009 11:40 AM EST up reply actions
That goalie chant should never be done while we’re losing, IMO.
"If you're gonna die after 24, might as well jump out at 23:59, no?"
by Laich It Or Lump It on Nov 25, 2009 11:40 AM EST up reply actions
Very agreed. I think it’s one that you have to pull out very occasionally for it to be effective. I only really remember the crowd doing it to Hextall back in the Caps Center days, because they knew he was the kind of guy that would let it get under his skin. Doing it to Cam Ward when we’re down 2-1 or up 3-1 isn’t a good idea on any planet.
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If any Buffalo fans step out of line tonight, everyone around should start a “Toood Kryier (clap clap clap clap clap)!” chant.
“WE WANT TARO”
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by Whiter Mage on Nov 25, 2009 11:31 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I will rec this reference for all time.
If consequences dictate the course of action, then it doesn't matter what's right, it's only wrong if you get caught. If consequences dictate the course of action, then I should play God...
…and all the way up to Dani “The Spear” Briere of recent Sabres infamy.
Real shame he got suspended recently (note: this is sarcasm in Danish and various other Germannic languages)
by mechanicsville on Nov 25, 2009 1:36 PM EST up reply actions
I hate the Sabres, their fans, and those stupid buffaslugs. If they all collectively jumped into Lake Erie, I wouldn’t be upset.
I guess I always just felt more sorry for Buffalo fans than anything. They live a truly pathetic existence. Buffalo is a wasteland, both sports and otherwise. If there’s a more beaten down group of people in the United States this side of Detroit, I can’t think of one.
If I’m recalling correctly, one of last season’s “Chalk Talks” was before a Buffalo game. Those things run past the time the building doors open to the public, and the Buffalo fans would walk in the doorways and be loud and rude. Yup, they’re right up there with the worst of them.
I remember that.
Remember the hilarity when the season schedule was released and all of Buffalo was convinced that Ted was evil incarnate and made the NHL schedule both Buffalo games in DC around holidays in a pathetic a desperate effort to keep Buffalo fans out of the VC?
That was pretty hilarious.
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by Whiter Mage on Nov 25, 2009 11:29 AM EST up reply actions
I’m a little behind on my Rink reading but I haven’t seen this posted here as far as I can tell and that’s a shame.
by Malin A on Nov 25, 2009 12:11 PM EST reply actions 5 recs
hahaha, whaaaaaat?
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by Whiter Mage on Nov 25, 2009 12:17 PM EST up reply actions
That’s awesome. Kudos and a foil hat to you, sir.
Ya freaking grasshopper!
by Steck It Out on Nov 25, 2009 12:53 PM EST up reply actions
But….but…awwwww.
(insert sad face)
Ya freaking grasshopper!
by Steck It Out on Nov 25, 2009 1:47 PM EST up reply actions
What does Abe’s passing mean about the 200 section and the people that have those seats? Will every seat in the arena now be “real” season ticket holder seats?
One guy just drove his semi as a float. I guess semis are cool.
Well, it depends on your definition of “real” season ticket holder seats.
The ticket revenue for hose seats and the rental agreements for the luxury boxes are dedicated to paying off the loans that Pollin took out to build the arena. What, if anything, is likely to happen should Ted purchase the entire package is that the club seats would be more readily available to Caps fans on a game-by-game basis. But I doubt that the current policy of having to purchase both Caps and Bullets season tickets would be changed much.
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Note, that has not been the policy in the end club sections for a number of seasons. One has been able to purchase Caps tickets only on a season ticket basis for a number of seasons in the Club level through WS&E.
Really? When did that change?
There was a guy I used to work with whose wife was in WSE. She was a Canes fan so they bought the Caps season tickets in the club level and were forced into buying Bullets tickets too. I think was about three-four years ago now.
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Definitely in the post-lockout years it has been an option; it may have been an option in the last year or two pre-lockout, but I’d have to look back at some notes. And in the last 2 to 3 seasons, there was an amazing deal for Caps only tickets in the end sections. In the center 3 sections on either side, the deal was still that one had to buy both to the best of my knowledge.
Ok, that makes a little more sense. Those end club sections are pretty bare most nights, even when there’s a “sellout.” I think my co-worker and his wife had seats in the middle sections.
You knew they were having serious trouble with those things when the end zone seats were dropped from the club level after only a couple of years.
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So obvious surely it’s been done by now…
Not sure I’d be around to post it at game-time so I guess I’ll have to bury it way down here.
by Icebat on Nov 25, 2009 1:10 PM EST reply actions 5 recs
That would be cool of you thank you YNC thank you.
I’ve got guests from Vermont and they may want to be “entertained” or “fed” or “not left for dead”, you know how those guests can be sometimes…
Once the ownership situation is resolved, that would be the logical next step regarding the Club seats, with people with contracts grandfathered depending on the specifics of the individual contracts.
I imagine they already have the beginnings of a transition plan in place and when the timing is known, will update it and implement as it relates to policies regarding the Club seats going forward, once (assumption for now of course) Lincoln Holdings owns the VC.
FWIW. right now there are contracts for the Club seats in the center sections for more than just Caps only (more like traditional club contracts) and then seats in the sections towards the ends were allowed to be purchased for Wizards only or Caps only, but those contracts also had different lengths from one year to multiyear options.
I’m guessing someone in the organization is picking out a nice humidifier right now, at least I hope so…
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is giving 15% off any single item on their site at the moment. Some Caps stuff to be had.
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So not risking Googling for that URL at work…
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by J.P. on Nov 25, 2009 1:57 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
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