Ovechkin Week-to-Week
"Washington Capitals left wing Alex Ovechkin suffered an upper-body strain in Sunday evening’s game against the Columbus Blue Jackets and his status is week-to-week, the team determined Monday. Ovechkin, the NHL leader in points (23) and goals (14) and the league’s Second Star of the Month for October, is expected to miss the fifth game of his five-year career on Wednesday at New Jersey. He has only missed two games due to injury in his first four seasons. Ovechkin played just 7:43 of Sunday’s overtime loss to Columbus and was held without a point for just the third time this year. He was examined and treated by the team’s medical staff and underwent an MRI exam on Monday. The two-time reigning most valuable player will travel with the Capitals this week to continue to receive medical treatment." - Press Release
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Um, no, he’s this.
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by J.P. on Nov 2, 2009 5:46 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Well, so much for fitty in fitty.
My guess is Semin goes to the 1L across from Knubs and Backstrom, with Flash to the 2L, and may he show us all that this hot start is no mirage.
He can still get 50 goals in 50 games played, but it may dim season stats a bit depending on how long he’s out and if it affects his play when he returns
“50 in 50” technically refers to 50 goals in the team’s first 50 games, not the player’s.
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This is fact.
But, worst case he still can join this not-too-shabby group of also ran’s this season.
Unofficial 50 in 50 scorers
The following players scored fifty goals in or before their 50th game in a single season, but do not officially qualify for 50-in-50 status because the NHL requires a player to have scored his 50th goal in or prior to his team’s 50th game.
Jari Kurri (1984–85) of the Edmonton Oilers scored his 50th goal in his 50th game of the season, which was his team’s 53rd game. He finished with 71 goals for the year.
Alexander Mogilny (1992–93) of the Buffalo Sabres scored his 50th goal in his 46th game of the season, which was his team’s 53rd game. He finished with 76 goals for the year.
Mario Lemieux (1992–93 & 1995–96): in the 1992–93 season Lemieux scored his 50th goal in his 48th game, which was his team’s 72nd game. He was plagued by injury that year, and finished with a total of 69 goals in 60 games played, having scored 19 goals in his remaining 12 games. In the 1995–96 season he scored his 50th goal in his 50th game (the team’s 59th), and finished the season with 69 goals in 70 games.
Cam Neely (1993–94) of the Boston Bruins scored his 50th goal in his 44th game (his teams 66th game) — tied with Lemieux’s 88-89 season for the fastest by any player other than Gretzky. Plagued by injury, Neely played a total of 49 games and did not score a goal in his remaining five games after reaching fifty.
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I understand what you’re saying and what not, but with all do respect: screw the individual stats.
(not taking a shot at you just saying trophy’s not named Stanley are not the goal of this season)
Right, but things that happen along the way can also be both enjoyable to witness and historically significant, so I’m hesitant to knock anyone for lamenting missing out on those opportunities – no one’s saying they matter as compared to winning the Cup, but they do matter to fans, players, historians and so on.
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…something along the lines of what I was going to say
I’ve typed in vt caps fan’s shoes before, we’re just talking about the what if’s starting with the root of this sub-thread as is topical to the immediate ramifications of this particular subject item.
starting with the root of this sub-thread as is topical to the immediate ramifications of this particular subject item.
Say that five times fast…
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Nov 2, 2009 6:42 PM EST up reply actions
If anything, Gretzky in 50-in-39 was basically Goal/game through 37 games (41 goals).
by red army line on Nov 2, 2009 11:14 PM EST up reply actions
Actually, I think they’ll go with the lines they went with after Ovi went down. Semin will stay with Backstrom and Flash. Laich will stay with Knubs and Morrison. In other words, Sunday’s second line becomes the first line and the “regular” second line is back. Columbus treated the “second” line as thought they were the first.
As long as he comes back 100%, this is the best thing that could have happened to the team. Regular season means Richard, and they need to learn to play together and quit sitting back and watching him. A little adversity is a good thing for a team with the highest aspirations.
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Nov 2, 2009 5:55 PM EST reply actions 4 recs
Fully agree. With the talent level on this team they should be able to continue to score without much problem. Hopefully, this will lead to the team playing a more disciplined game instead of relying on Ovi to bail them out on their mistakes.
Any team that believes they can contend for the cup needs to be more than one dimension. Now’s the time for the Caps to prove that they really belong at the top.
by Gin and Tonic on Nov 2, 2009 6:08 PM EST up reply actions
Regular season means dick, but only if you get through it into what lies beyond.
Maybe play with an edge, be a little more physical -- maybe be more of a prick out there.
Even without Ovechkin, this team is still a lock for the playoffs.
And the way things look in the rest of the division right now, a lock for a top three spot.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Nov 2, 2009 10:35 PM EST up reply actions
This is kind of like the D-situation last year, where Hershey boys came up and played like men. I know this team can do the same.
I do wonder, though – week-to-week – do they think he’ll be back in the time it would take for him to go LTIR?
by DrinkingPartner on Nov 2, 2009 6:52 PM EST up reply actions
I was just thinking that. Week-to-week is a long time. I’ll bet they put him on LTIR (retroactively, always retroactively with this team) and maybe make a move or something if the team starts struggoling.
Maybe play with an edge, be a little more physical -- maybe be more of a prick out there.
9 Mill can give you a lot of temporary cap relief…
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Nov 2, 2009 8:12 PM EST up reply actions
Yes, it can. Speaking of Long Term Injured Reserve, is Boyd Gordon going on LTIR retroactive to whenever it was he went out?
So, who comes up from Hershey? Giroux?
This is something I thought as well.
I'm so sick and tired of the refs explaining the calls like this is the NFL.
We can’t really bring up any defensemen since we have more than we know what to do with. (Not necessarily good defensemen but warm bodies.)
9mil in cap room can mean more than just calling up in defenseman. I could see Osala/Giroux/Beagle all getting chances in the coming days (Hopefully not weeks)
I'm so sick and tired of the refs explaining the calls like this is the NFL.
If the Caps continue to win w/o #8 (which I’m confident they will), it could go miles toward building character, establishing personality. Fighting through the immediate adversity could very well translate to a much pluckier squad on the other side (read: a team better suited to winning in the playoffs).
by mechanicsville on Nov 2, 2009 6:13 PM EST reply actions 7 recs
B-b-b-b-but, then Alex Ovechkin won’t be deemed most valuable player in the NHL for the 3rd time in a row!
</snark, yo>
by DrinkingPartner on Nov 2, 2009 6:48 PM EST up reply actions
Probably not. I guess they’ll finally give it to Crosby — unless he goes down with an injury. Or will it be Anze Kopitar?
The way Kopi’s playing…
I'm so sick and tired of the refs explaining the calls like this is the NFL.
He is, but he is still clearly their MVP. They lost both of their games without him, he comes back and scores the lone ranger goal for a victory.
He is injury prone, but if he keeps it together he could have a good case.
clear fantasy MVP for my team. lifts everyone that plays with him, too (prospal, del zotto, formerly dubinsky).
by Natty Bumppo on Nov 2, 2009 11:15 PM EST up reply actions
Too many people will ignore a fact like 80% points per game team wise with a player vs 40% points per game team wise without and look stronger at just total points, because most people voting on the Hart are morons. They’ll say “He was too injured to really have helped his team” even if he was healthy. Also, you have the potential mindset that an injured player carries no value, so while he was extremely valuable while healthy, part of the season he has no value.
Then you have jerks like me, who look at contract because I overlook the term “Valuable”.
I'm so sick and tired of the refs explaining the calls like this is the NFL.
Let the medical speculation begin!
I’m going to go with a strain so bad, it’s technically a mild dislocation if you look at it from the right perspective.
Atta dinnin stick a who!
Upon watching the replay of his tumble after bumping into Torres, I’m going to give the same totally-medical diagnosis. I think he jammed himself harder than it looked when he broke his fall.
by DrinkingPartner on Nov 2, 2009 6:50 PM EST up reply actions
Like the Cooke-on-Vinny hit from a couple seasons ago?
Maybe play with an edge, be a little more physical -- maybe be more of a prick out there.
Unfortunately that was my first thought as well.
If consequences dictate the course of action, then it doesn't matter what's right, it's only wrong if you get caught. If consequences dictate the course of action, then I should play God...
Those two hits aren’t even comparable: it didn’t look like Torres even realized he was there as he was perfectly upright and his head was turned when they collided; Cooke went after Lecavalier and hit him hard.
by DrinkingPartner on Nov 2, 2009 8:58 PM EST up reply actions
We’re talking more about the somewhat innocent-looking fall to the ice that resulted in injury.
Maybe play with an edge, be a little more physical -- maybe be more of a prick out there.
by jordanDC on Nov 2, 2009 9:28 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I really doubt the Torres fall ‘resulted’ in anything but confirmation. 8 nursed a shoulder last year and definitely was tending to it before he encountered Torres.
What would last year have to do with it? You think he had something so bad that he couldn’t heal in the off-season and nobody knew about it? Or do you think he got hurt previously this year? His shooting says his shoulder felt fine. I’m not saying he can’t make it look good even when he’s hurting, but I hadn’t seen anything up to this point to suggest his shoulder was bothering him and something definitely happened in that CBJ game; it wasn’t a coincidence that he just couldn’t finish that game.
If consequences dictate the course of action, then it doesn't matter what's right, it's only wrong if you get caught. If consequences dictate the course of action, then I should play God...
I’m saying 8 has a susceptible left shoulder and that it was re-injured, previous to the Torres hit. Watch him en route to the box, and while he’s in it. For that matter, watch him messing with it, grimacing, and saying “It’s my [something]” on the bench in NYI game.
Last year’s injury can heal AND be this year’s inclination to injury. Ovechkin definitely was hurting before Torres got there.
My understanding is that it’s not.
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I’m a little late to respond :-), but the hit against Lecavalier was a solid, intentional hit where Cooke kinda aimed for his elbow and drove it upwards – i don’t remember thinking it was the fall that did in Lecavalier.
by DrinkingPartner on Nov 2, 2009 10:54 PM EST up reply actions
Rest Him
There is no reason to rush him back. We want him at full capacity in the Spring. If the team can learn to play without him, they’ll benefit much like the Penguins did without Crosby (and might without Malkin). If the good Alex Semin shows up and assumes a leadership role (something he has done before), this will all be beneficial over the long haul. And it is a long haul.
by Ernie5 on Nov 2, 2009 6:54 PM EST reply actions 4 recs
Agree wholeheartedly.
Don’t think I’ve seen that avatar before. I love it, and I don’t like every Rothko. (bigger version here) That one seems oddly appropriate here.
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Nov 2, 2009 6:59 PM EST up reply actions
Updated story up on the website soon. But the Caps have announced star forward Alex Ovechkin as week-to-week with an “upper-body strain” Got to love those NHL injury reports. Given how Ovechkin fell to the ice – and the fact that you can’t “strain” a wrist and an elbow “strain” seems unlikely for a hockey player who wasn’t shooting when hurt – we can assume this is a shoulder injury. That’s an educated guess, of course. NHL teams do not have to disclose the exact nature of a player’s injury.
Ovechkin underwent an MRI on Monday. It seems unlikely he will be back for any of this week’s games – on the road at New Jersey (Wednesday) and Florida (Friday) and a Saturday rematch with the Panthers at Verizon Center. Remains to be seen if we’re talking two-to-three weeks – similar to the right shoulder strain suffered by Pittsburgh’s Evgeni Malkin – or more like a month or even six weeks. Caps have at least built themselves a decent cushion in the Southeast Division. With an 8-2-4 record the lead is eight points entering play Monday night. But it will be their first extended time without Ovechkin in their lineup since before the NHL lockout. This will take some adjusting.
Now, for a game of “Guess Bruce’s Lines.” The Caps and coach Bruce Boudreau have enough “top six” players to get by without Ovechkin for a bit – as long as no one else gets hurt. Brooks Laich could play on the top line with Brendan Morrison and Mike Knuble. Ovechkin played with those two on Sunday. That would leave Tomas Fleischmann with Nicklas Backstrom and Alex Semin. Actually, that is probably your top line. Regardless, there are a bunch of NHL teams that would kill to have that kind of talent up top. Even without Ovechkin.
It would be nice to get forward Eric Fehr back from his rib injury. He has missed four games in a row, but would slot in nicely on the third line with Chris Clark and Keith Aucoin. That would leave David Steckel with wingers Quintin Laing and Matt Bradley. If Fehr can’t go, someone else moves up and defenseman Tyler Sloan gets another game at forward. He’s starting to get used to that. Will have to see if center Boyd Gordon (back) or defenseman John Erskine (bruised hand) are back at practice on Tuesday. Both remain on injured reserve.
Reminder – Michael Nylander’s loan to AHL club Grand Rapids is up on Wednesday. Nylander had a goal on Friday night for the Griffins. He was held off the score sheet last Thursday. In five games he had a goal and five assists, was a +1 and recorded a shootout goal. Grand Rapids won all five games Nylander appeared in. We’ll see if that was enough to convince another team that Nylander is worth pursuing.
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If I were to sum up my feelings on this in an animated GIF, it might be this one:
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by J.P. on Nov 2, 2009 7:28 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Does he have breasts in that gif?
Maybe play with an edge, be a little more physical -- maybe be more of a prick out there.
I can’t stop watching and it hurts
by Hunky Dory on Nov 2, 2009 10:10 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I believe I was promised a Russian machine that never breaks. Is he still under warranty?
Well. If it had to happen, I’m glad it’s happening now. And that, based on the second half of last night’s game, we still have a pretty good team here.
…And I’m glad I haven’t heard “surgery” mentioned yet, although a strain can be a pretty nasty thing to take care of properly. Don’t push it, Alex.
"Camaraderie, that's what the Washington Capitals are all about."
by CapitalCentre on Nov 2, 2009 7:37 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Of course :)
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by CapitalCentre on Nov 2, 2009 8:27 PM EST up reply actions
Updated.
Russian Machine very rarely breaks.
by macvechkin on Nov 2, 2009 10:02 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Ouch.
"Camaraderie, that's what the Washington Capitals are all about."
by CapitalCentre on Nov 2, 2009 11:18 PM EST up reply actions
Sucks, but I believe this will help the team in the long-term. They can be a good team without him, and it’s time to prove that. Guys have to step up (I’m talking to you, Semin) and show their mettle.
Though, I wonder if this opens a door for Nylander to show if he still could play a role on the team ducks
The only place where success comes before work is in the dictionary.
So if Semin steps up for half a season, that means he’s a Hart candidate, right? I mean, right?
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by turnituptoeleven on Nov 2, 2009 10:05 PM EST reply actions
I didn’t miss a single game while in Cabo San Lucas except for the Columbus game while I was flying back. I come back home and have to read this depressing news.
Blah. If anyone can come back at 100% in quick time after being called “week-to-week” it’s Ovi.
One guy just drove his semi as a float. I guess semis are cool.
no doubt that he could, but will he take the proper amount of time to rehab it? I don’t want to see him have it (whatever it truly is) re-tweaked come the playoffs. Take as much time as needed, the schedule in Nov isn’t like Oct. Take the whole month off if needed
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by kurlNdrag on Nov 2, 2009 11:11 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
That was the 100% part of what I was saying. I don’t want him rushed back either…
One guy just drove his semi as a float. I guess semis are cool.
I’ve had the same thought, but I take comfort in the fact that he didn’t come back during the game. He seems unwilling to stop, ever, but he also seems to be smart enough about his own body that he won’t rush to come back while it’s still this early in the regular season.
"Camaraderie, that's what the Washington Capitals are all about."
by CapitalCentre on Nov 2, 2009 11:21 PM EST up reply actions
I agree that he seems to be unwilling to stop, just hope he knows how to push pause as you say also.
Looking at Nov, i think there are 3 games that it would be great to have OV for, but in reality, this team should easily be able to stay at least at .500 for the month. If for whatever reason they fall below then I seriously hope he doesn’t start to push it.
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by DonnieKnutts on Nov 2, 2009 11:18 PM EST up reply actions
btw, how'd you pull that off?
computer stream? slingbox? i was overseas as well but watching via stream was too frustrating
by DonnieKnutts on Nov 2, 2009 11:18 PM EST up reply actions
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Southeast Standings
| GP | W | L | OTL | PT | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Florida
|
51 | 24 | 16 | 11 | 59 |
|
Washington
|
52 | 27 | 21 | 4 | 58 |
|
Winnipeg
|
54 | 24 | 24 | 6 | 54 |
|
Tampa Bay
|
51 | 23 | 23 | 5 | 51 |
|
Carolina
|
54 | 20 | 25 | 9 | 49 |
(updated 2.7.2012 at 3:17 AM EST)
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