Caps Scouting Forsberg?
Peter Forsberg's foot is supposedly healed (as healed as it's going to get, anyway), and he's suiting up for the Swedes in the Karjala Cup starting on Thursday. Rumor has it that the Caps are among the teams scouting him.
Obviously everything depends on moving Nylander, but what do you think? Does this team need a guy like Forsberg with Morrison playing as well has he is?
18 days ago
jordanDC
103 comments
0 recs |
Email
PrintComments
Depends on the price, but he’s always been a gritty, sandpaper type with sublime offensive skills, especially vision and playmaking.
The real problem is how frequently the dude is injured. There’s no question in my mind that he’s still got the skills to play very high level NHL hockey, but he’s not been able to stay off the IR for any significant length of time for half a decade now.
It would be marvelous to have a healthy Forsberg, but it’s probably a pipedream.
by Knee high to a duck on Nov 2, 2009 3:20 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Where does Forsberg play? We’ve got Backstrom, Morrison, Steckel, Gordon, Laich (if we want), and then Beagle and Aucoin all at center on the depth chart. There’s not a real spot for Foppa unless you want to play him on the third line, which I don’t know if he’s worth the price tag he’d cost.
I'm so sick and tired of the refs explaining the calls like this is the NFL.
by Whiter Mage on Nov 2, 2009 9:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Are any of those guys better than Foppa? You could argue that Backstrom is, but Forsberg and Morrison are the same age and while BMo has been playing well this season, there’s really no comparison between the two.
You could play him on the wing, you could play him at center, I don’t think it would matter that much. Forsberg is an upgrade over everyone on that list, when healthy, except possibly Nick.
by Knee high to a duck on Nov 2, 2009 9:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’d put him on the wing. I remeber last time he had a comeback he played wing and he said that was a lot easier on him, with the less skating, and he would be more effective.
by hockeyman33 on Nov 2, 2009 9:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
But where does he fit? He’s not a third liner. He’d have to play wing, and then you’re shuffling a guy down a line who probably doesn’t belong on the third line. He’s also got the issue of foot injuries, which you have to worry about. I’m not high on this move.
I'm so sick and tired of the refs explaining the calls like this is the NFL.
by Whiter Mage on Nov 3, 2009 12:05 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
then you’re shuffling a guy down a line who probably doesn’t belong on the third line.
That’s called “depth,” and it’s what Stanley Cup winners have.
If consequences dictate the course of action, then it doesn't matter what's right, it's only wrong if you get caught. If consequences dictate the course of action, then I should play God...
by Fehr and Balanced on Nov 3, 2009 12:50 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
There’s a thin line between “depth” and “log-jam”.
I'm so sick and tired of the refs explaining the calls like this is the NFL.
by Whiter Mage on Nov 3, 2009 2:42 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
When has “log-jam” at the top lines or pairings ever been a problem? I understand that having 8 defensemen is a problem, but having four #1s? sounds good to me.
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Nov 3, 2009 7:46 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Let me break this down.
I don’t think the team needs Forsberg, and can do much better with it’s money.
Forsberg, while the same age as Morrison, is almost always injured. And I had a minute interest in him the first time I heard this story, but after hearing he had another foot injury (another!) I lost all interest I might have had. With all of the guys we have against the 23 “cap”, and how tight we are to the salary cap (And yes, I understand how much money 4.5 million dollars is), I don’t see why we should sign an injury prone Center (Which is in my opinion, our teams strongest position). I don’t think Forsberg can play top fleet hockey for 6 months.
Now, maybe if we’re in March, I’m more interested, but there’s no reason to sign a guy who has had injuries every year since 2004. If we could sign the Forsberg of 2000, I’d be all for it. But I’m just not sure that signing this guy would be good for the team. Also, I can’t stand crocs. At all. There, I said it. Fuck Crocs.
I'm so sick and tired of the refs explaining the calls like this is the NFL.
by Whiter Mage on Nov 3, 2009 12:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t think the team needs Forsberg, and can do much better with it’s money.
Who could the Caps get that is better than Forsberg, even if injured, without giving anything else up? How many quality Free Agents are still out there? It’s not just money, there are other assets that will be lost in any non-Foppa acquisition.
I don’t see how signing him hurts us in any way. If he plays, we are better. If he’s hurt, he takes up no cap space. Where is the “lose” in that scenario?
Fuck Crocs.
If consequences dictate the course of action, then it doesn't matter what's right, it's only wrong if you get caught. If consequences dictate the course of action, then I should play God...
by Fehr and Balanced on Nov 3, 2009 1:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I submit that we are NOT that strong at center. Backstrom, Morrison.. Steckel? I think there are many teams that are stronger up the middle. Big Dave is awesome on line 4, but we could use a scoring threat on line 3.
Maybe play with an edge, be a little more physical -- maybe be more of a prick out there.
by jordanDC on Nov 3, 2009 1:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I would agree with that. Nicky is an elite center and BMo has been a pleasant surprise, but he’s not tricking anyone into believing he’s a 1C on a contending team. He’s a good fit at 2C, but let’s not convince ourselves he’s doing more than that. Steckel is one of the best 4th line centers in the league, but as a 3C he’s looked very poor this season.
by Knee high to a duck on Nov 3, 2009 6:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Those poor Penguins and Flyers, it’s a wonder they win any games at all with their logjams at 1C.
by Knee high to a duck on Nov 3, 2009 6:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t disagree. I don’t think Forsberg is a 1C anymore. But I’ll stop raining on your potential parade.
I'm so sick and tired of the refs explaining the calls like this is the NFL.
by Whiter Mage on Nov 3, 2009 7:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He doesn’t have to be a 1C. He clearly is a better option at 3C and could still be a better option at 2C.
If consequences dictate the course of action, then it doesn't matter what's right, it's only wrong if you get caught. If consequences dictate the course of action, then I should play God...
by Fehr and Balanced on Nov 3, 2009 7:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t see it. He’s an injury waiting to happen.
I'm so sick and tired of the refs explaining the calls like this is the NFL.
by Whiter Mage on Nov 3, 2009 7:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Of course he is, all of the evidence post-lockout says that. I’m hoping the year off to heal has helped, but I’m not at all confident of that, as you see in my other posts.
He’s got 1C skills, he’d be a power play monster anywhere you put him below the blueline and he’d be an ideal mentor for Nicky. Plus, he’s a guy you could look to for team toughness. The guy had a definite edge to his game.
by Knee high to a duck on Nov 3, 2009 7:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
We are just never ever going to see eye to eye on anything resembling the term “value.” I don’t see how Foppa could possibly be a downside for us: if he plays he is undoubtedly an upgrade and makes the team better; if he doesn’t we just get to spend that money on someone else. Sure he’s probably going to be injured, and he’ll probably never sign with the Caps, but you seem to think that if we could sign him you would prefer that we didn’t. It’s just mind-bottling to me.
If consequences dictate the course of action, then it doesn't matter what's right, it's only wrong if you get caught. If consequences dictate the course of action, then I should play God...
by Fehr and Balanced on Nov 3, 2009 8:00 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
If you’re asking “Is he worth a chance?” I can’t really say no. If you’re asking “Should we drop everything and get Forsberg?” the answer is no. We don’t know what money the Caps have or don’t have yet, and even what Foppa’s demanding, and if we do sign Foppa, and he does get hurt, it’s LTIR again, and that can keep us from picking up someone on a prorated contract later. I’m just not comfortable taking that risk, and I don’t see the point of signing Forsberg to play the month of December. If it was January or February, I’d probably feel like he’s worth it, but not right now. I also feel rough limiting Aucoin and Perrault and any other potential prospect at center who has shown they deserve a shot.
And no, I don’t see him as an improvement over Morrison right now. That guy has fit in nearly perfectly. I guess you could put him on the Third line, but I don’t really like moving Steckel down. Basically, I just don’t see the guy fitting in with the team as well as you guys do. I’d rather we spend the money on a d-man or bringing on more value at the deadline. I don’t see how my mindset is “mind-boggling.”
I'm so sick and tired of the refs explaining the calls like this is the NFL.
by Whiter Mage on Nov 4, 2009 12:06 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree it’s a better idea as we get closer to the trade deadline. I don’t see anything happening with him any time soon though so that was a built in assumption of mine. I agree going into LTIR now is a bad idea.
If consequences dictate the course of action, then it doesn't matter what's right, it's only wrong if you get caught. If consequences dictate the course of action, then I should play God...
by Fehr and Balanced on Nov 4, 2009 12:30 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Except definitely Nick.
If consequences dictate the course of action, then it doesn't matter what's right, it's only wrong if you get caught. If consequences dictate the course of action, then I should play God...
by Fehr and Balanced on Nov 3, 2009 12:49 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Granted, Forsberg > Nylander, and the Fedorov trade worked pretty well, but I’m a little gun-shy about bringing in another far-side-of-the-hill superstar.
But I would defer to more knowledgeable hockey folk on this.
IS PAЯTY NOW
by Your Nation's Capital on Nov 2, 2009 3:22 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Is Forsberger really going to magically find a way to make Flash, Fehr, Clark, Laich or Laing that much more of a scoring threat?
IMHO, going after Forsberg would be a massive mistake for this club… at any price.
If BMo was trending to be a bust, I could see this (or could even see Nyls get a jersey here and there) but he’s not, and he’s not… Could the Caps scouts be there to keep an eye on some other prospects/draft hopefuls? More likely than scouting Forsberger.
by FFSEnough on Nov 2, 2009 3:28 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
s Forsberger really going to magically find a way to make Flash, Fehr, Clark, Laich or Laing that much more of a scoring threat?
Err, yes. You’re going to be putting them with a world-class playmaker. Remember that Forsberg was a Hart trophy winner and arguably the best player on some of those early 2000s and late 90s Avs teams that were so dominant. Putting a guy with vision that’s better than Backstrom’s on a line with those guys is going to give them the opportunity to finish, yes.
IMHO, going after Forsberg would be a massive mistake for this club… at any price.
What is this based on? The contract against the limit and the potential for injury? There’s no real downside here, other than the opportunity cost, to get one of the all-time great players. I don’t think it’s realistic because of his injury problems, but I would love to see the guy in Caps red. Even more than I loved seeing 91 skate around and Forsberg is younger and has fewer miles on his legs.
by Knee high to a duck on Nov 2, 2009 5:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
2 ankle/foot surgeries since the lockout. 2-3 groin injuries since the lockout. Less than 130 games since the lockout. To make room for him you relegate someone like BMo, Flash or Laich to the third line. Then we get into the rhythm of complaining about how those guys can’t produce points like they were when they got top-2-line minutes (92, 17).
What do you do on the PP. There’s 3 slots open on the top line unit to be filled by either 19, 9 (I argue 39 needs to be added to win the damn draws), 28, 21, 22, 14. That’s 2 lines worth of PP guys when you consider 8 and 52 are our most proficient on the back end.
In the end, someone’s feelings are going to be hurt. (Quick, call the waaaambulance). Someone who right now, we are counting on helping us out for 3-4 more years of a cup run. Would my feelings change if this team was ready to give up on Fehr? If we have a major injury? Trade Semin if we can’t get a deal done? Absolutely. But right now, this is the team we got. This is the team that’s 4th in the standings after a rough opening month. This is a team that, short of a wonky glove hand from their goalie last year, would have found their way into the SC Finals. Is Foppa going to help keep the puck out of the back of the net? Maybe. But it seems like most people here would rather see Nyls’ money used to bring Alzner or Carlson up. (not to mention, I don’t think we could land Foppa for 4.8m.)
by FFSEnough on Nov 3, 2009 9:18 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
sorry for wall-o-text. I swear I put carriage returns in.
like one here…
by FFSEnough on Nov 3, 2009 9:25 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
In the end, someone’s feelings are going to be hurt. (Quick, call the waaaambulance). Someone who right now, we are counting on helping us out for 3-4 more years of a cup run.
If they can’t handle giving up ice time to someone like Peter Forsberg, they probably shouldn’t be on the team to begin with. Besides, they wouldn’t be giving up that much ice – probability is that he gets injured and has to sit for an extended period. Like I said earlier, a healthy Foppa is probably a pipe dream.
But it seems like most people here would rather see Nyls’ money used to bring Alzner or Carlson up. (not to mention, I don’t think we could land Foppa for 4.8m.)
I don’t think it’d be as expensive as you think, given his injury history of the last 5 years. Any team trying to sign him that he’s interested in playing for has cap issues and I think he and his agent are both cognizant of that. I’d like to see Alzner up right now, but that involves clearing at least 1 more d contract without taking salary back and probably two. For him, it’s not just a matter of cap space.
Bottom line, I’d be over the moon if we could get games from a healthy Forsberg, but I think it’s unlikely, even in the event that he signs here. Wouldn’t stop me from getting crazy excited, though.
by Knee high to a duck on Nov 3, 2009 6:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That, actually, is one thing that I think would immensely help guys like Flash, Fehr, and, to an extent, Laich. Fedorov was a good bit farther over the hill than Forsberg is, even now. I think Forsberg would be able to get the most out of those guys.
Plus, can you just imagine what Nick’s face would look like?
“Foppa?”
by DrinkingPartner on Nov 2, 2009 6:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t really know how to feel on this one. Forsberg is world class. I would be ecstatic to see him in a Caps jersey. That said, I remember him getting hurt almost immediately when he came back to play with the Avs a couple seasons back.
He’d be an upgrade over Aucoin or Steckel on the third line for sure..
Maybe play with an edge, be a little more physical -- maybe be more of a prick out there.
by jordanDC on Nov 2, 2009 3:33 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
He’s definitely an upgrade for Aucoin… Steckel has a place on this team for the forseeable future….
Let's go Caps!
by MikeL-Caps on Nov 2, 2009 4:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, but he could probably slide to LW or something if we pick up a Forsberg for half a year.
Maybe play with an edge, be a little more physical -- maybe be more of a prick out there.
by jordanDC on Nov 2, 2009 4:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Steckel? move to wing? He’s not paid to score, he’s paid to win face-offs, and despite the post-season heroics, there’s a good reason for that.
by RedBirdie on Nov 2, 2009 4:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ok, then Dave wins faceoffs on line 4?
Maybe play with an edge, be a little more physical -- maybe be more of a prick out there.
by jordanDC on Nov 2, 2009 4:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
isn’t that gordon’s specialty? Line 4 / defensive-zone / penalty-killing FO wins?
by bigity b on Nov 2, 2009 4:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Just trying to make room for Forsberg in the unlikely event that he gets signed.
Maybe play with an edge, be a little more physical -- maybe be more of a prick out there.
by jordanDC on Nov 2, 2009 4:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
2009-2010 Caps: So deep they can’t even find a spot in their lines for Peter Forsberg.
IS PAЯTY NOW
by Your Nation's Capital on Nov 2, 2009 4:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Wasn’t this a hot story about a month ago (literally the week before the season began) and then they found another stress fracture in Forsberg foot. i.e. he can’t play longer than two weeks without getting hurt. Until he proves he can, I hope the caps dont go after him – unless/until they deal with the gorilla in the room. Afterall, how does Forsberg fit on this team with Nylander’s contract still on the books?
by bigity b on Nov 2, 2009 4:12 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
He obviously doesn’t fit with Nylander’s contract still on the books. This is all assuming he gets moved.
by sixsevenfiftysix on Nov 2, 2009 6:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
This is nothing but a hunch, but IF the team can offload Nylander, I think GMGM’s plan is to bring in Forsberg. It would be consistent with the M.O. we saw in the Fedorov deal and he would add a lot of skill, grit, and leadership. I do agree that the team doesn’t need a center, but you can never be too deep down the middle.
Could that cap space be better used on a player who isn’t old, out of the NHL, possibly injured, and playing at a position of need? Perhaps, but, depending on the contract, he might be the biggest upgrade the Caps can make without losing any assets. They could then potentially still add players at the deadline to address the problems on D/grit/whatever.
I don’t know, it’s all a hunch, but there is a lot of smoke around this one and a plausible reason why things have remained merely smoky (Nyls).
by grapejoos on Nov 2, 2009 6:33 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Hopefully Forsberg will realize that the Caps are far superior to the Flyers when making his decision!
Maybe play with an edge, be a little more physical -- maybe be more of a prick out there.
by jordanDC on Nov 2, 2009 9:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ovie-Baxter-Semin
Laich-Morrison-Knuble
Fehr-Forsberg-Flash
Bradley-Steckel-Clark/Gordon
?
by 718CapsFan on Nov 2, 2009 10:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Does Bauer make a helmet big enough for Baxter?
One guy just drove his semi as a float. I guess semis are cool.
by zephyr on Nov 2, 2009 10:52 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah, Matt Bradley’s wearing it.
If consequences dictate the course of action, then it doesn't matter what's right, it's only wrong if you get caught. If consequences dictate the course of action, then I should play God...
by Fehr and Balanced on Nov 3, 2009 12:51 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I think you have to move Foppa to the top 6, somewhere. No way, no how is he a 3rd line guy, plus you’re going to want him out on the PP.
by Knee high to a duck on Nov 2, 2009 10:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Nope, I like those lines. Manage his 5 on 5 minutes, but still keep him with players with talent, and let him be a PP specialist. The ol’ “Keith Tkachuk.”
If consequences dictate the course of action, then it doesn't matter what's right, it's only wrong if you get caught. If consequences dictate the course of action, then I should play God...
by Fehr and Balanced on Nov 3, 2009 12:52 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Plus we get to call it “F Street” again…
"Let the rest be scared of us." - Sasha Semin
by Scott in Shaw on Nov 3, 2009 12:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
drat, still sorting out this board interface. strike fail.
by 718CapsFan on Nov 3, 2009 7:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
no more carebear line unless it’s on a PP.
But’s since it’s fun to play armchair GM, our potential best line up could be:
8-9-22
21-19-28
14-Foppa-16(needs to go to hershey for a conditioning stint)
10-39/15-17
Foppa is added to the 2nd unit PP, keep his minutes low until the playoffs to reduce wear and tear hopefully.
Actually roll 4 lines, cut the top lines minutes down a bit so as not to burn 9 and 22 out during the regular season and then… the D needs to get shifted around via trade.
Promote the game, it's the NHL, not SCHL
by kurlNdrag on Nov 2, 2009 10:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’d put Foppa on line 2 and drop down Laich. Forsberg-Mo-Knuble in some configuration would be powerful strong.
Oh and to throw in a little more seasoning, Forsberg has centered Knuble before, in Philly.
by grapejoos on Nov 2, 2009 11:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ovechkin-Forsberg-Knuble
Fleischmann-Backstrom-Semin
Laich-Morrison-Fehr
Bradley-Steckel-Gordon
You don’t bring Forsberg in to be a third line center. He wouldn’t be that effective there, and you’re wasting his best skills.
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Nov 2, 2009 11:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You don’t play the old man with AO. Feds couldn’t even keep up with AO offensively and he doesn’t have lower body injury history and has always been known as a better skater. The 2 and 3 C spots are both going to be with one skilled and one grittier W, hopefully. In that situation there isn’t as much of a difference between 2 and 3 C as far as the style of play goes. BB would finally achieve his “three scoring lines and a grinder line” mix that he loves and he’ll have them play that way (if it works out to plan). You could say BMo should take the 3C seat because he’s a lesser name, better defensively, or not as good offensively; but I say he’s been here from the start of the season, and is more likely to stay healthy so why mess with the 2C chemistry.
If consequences dictate the course of action, then it doesn't matter what's right, it's only wrong if you get caught. If consequences dictate the course of action, then I should play God...
by Fehr and Balanced on Nov 3, 2009 12:56 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed, give Forsberg PP time with A.O. but I doubt he’d be able to keep up with A.O. 5 on 5
Because now I can justify browsing and commenting during the work day with the argument that I am promoting my business.
by Sombrero Guy on Nov 3, 2009 9:50 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He absolutely cannot keep up with AO 5 on 5, almost no one can.
by Knee high to a duck on Nov 3, 2009 6:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
This this this
Maybe play with an edge, be a little more physical -- maybe be more of a prick out there.
by jordanDC on Nov 3, 2009 8:41 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Forsberg has centered Knuble before, in Philly.
Nice catch.
Forsberg 2005-06 with Philly: 19G 65A (60 games)
Forsberg 2006-07 with Philly: 11G 29A (40 games)
Knuble 2005-06 with Philly: 34G 31A
Knuble 2006-07 with Philly: 24G 30A
Career high goals and points for Knuble in 2005-06.
by Cluster on Nov 3, 2009 10:54 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The Caps have possible salary cap relief coming that the Flyers don’t (without losing part of their arsenal).
If consequences dictate the course of action, then it doesn't matter what's right, it's only wrong if you get caught. If consequences dictate the course of action, then I should play God...
by Fehr and Balanced on Nov 3, 2009 12:51 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Screw it, let’s overpay for him. I’m all in now.
Maybe play with an edge, be a little more physical -- maybe be more of a prick out there.
by jordanDC on Nov 3, 2009 8:43 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
This is not the case. Simon Gagne’s out for two months.
I'm so sick and tired of the refs explaining the calls like this is the NFL.
by Whiter Mage on Nov 3, 2009 12:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
but then Gagne will come back. so the cap relief is temporary.
by RedBirdie on Nov 3, 2009 12:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
And isn’t that losing part of their arsenal?
If consequences dictate the course of action, then it doesn't matter what's right, it's only wrong if you get caught. If consequences dictate the course of action, then I should play God...
by Fehr and Balanced on Nov 3, 2009 1:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
when I think “losing part of their arsenal” to bring Foppa in, I’m thinking trading some guys for a bag of pucks so you can fit Foppa in under their current salary cap mess. Or a season-ending injury.
by RedBirdie on Nov 3, 2009 1:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, you guys think Nylander’s actually going somewhere?
I'm so sick and tired of the refs explaining the calls like this is the NFL.
by Whiter Mage on Nov 3, 2009 1:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
How would you like those words prepared? Breaded and fried, or do you prefer a healthier alternative? It’s November 3. I’ll put a six pack up against yours that Nyls is not on the Caps roster come the trade deadline.
If consequences dictate the course of action, then it doesn't matter what's right, it's only wrong if you get caught. If consequences dictate the course of action, then I should play God...
by Fehr and Balanced on Nov 3, 2009 1:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Tell him, Steve-Dave!
Maybe play with an edge, be a little more physical -- maybe be more of a prick out there.
by jordanDC on Nov 3, 2009 1:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
cled, sir. But seriously, he’s not going anywhere soon. And I have a feeling by the deadline that’ll be the case too, but I’m not sure Forsberg will be available then, or if there won’t be a more glaring hole that w need to fix via free agency.
I'm so sick and tired of the refs explaining the calls like this is the NFL.
by Whiter Mage on Nov 3, 2009 5:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
So you think Nyls is willing to spend a full year not playing hockey knowing that next year he’s getting stashed in HER? He knows it’s as much in his best interest to broker a deal to another team as it is in the Caps’ interest.
If consequences dictate the course of action, then it doesn't matter what's right, it's only wrong if you get caught. If consequences dictate the course of action, then I should play God...
by Fehr and Balanced on Nov 3, 2009 5:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m not worried about Nyls not wanting to move.
I'm so sick and tired of the refs explaining the calls like this is the NFL.
by Whiter Mage on Nov 3, 2009 6:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
So you think nobody will take him?
If consequences dictate the course of action, then it doesn't matter what's right, it's only wrong if you get caught. If consequences dictate the course of action, then I should play God...
by Fehr and Balanced on Nov 3, 2009 6:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think if someone was going to, it would have already been done. Wait, wasn’t this the mindset we all had? When did that change?
I'm so sick and tired of the refs explaining the calls like this is the NFL.
by Whiter Mage on Nov 3, 2009 7:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t remember anyone saying that. In fact, most of what I remember has to do with it “taking time.” I think it’s probably accelerated a bit by the conditioning sting but I don’t know where you are pulling the “if it was going to happen it already would have happened” mindset from.
If consequences dictate the course of action, then it doesn't matter what's right, it's only wrong if you get caught. If consequences dictate the course of action, then I should play God...
by Fehr and Balanced on Nov 3, 2009 7:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I hope that Nylander goes somewhere, for his sake. That doesn’t mean I’m hoping the Caps swap one aging Swede for another. I’ve got my reservations about Forsberg.
by RedBirdie on Nov 3, 2009 1:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Any Forsberg talk on my part assumes Nylander is gone. The team can’t fit him without that cap relief, and even if they could on a bargain deal, it’s better spent on deadline deals to add grit and defense.
by grapejoos on Nov 3, 2009 2:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree those are the two most likely scenarios, but for Gagne’s injury to make much of a difference he’d have to be out for a while. That’s going to hurt PHI by taking an impact player out of the lineup. The Caps don’t have that problem. They have the problem with Nyls but it’s more likely the Caps move Nyls than the Flyers move any of their impact players.
If consequences dictate the course of action, then it doesn't matter what's right, it's only wrong if you get caught. If consequences dictate the course of action, then I should play God...
by Fehr and Balanced on Nov 3, 2009 1:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Gagne is out for 6-8 weeks if I recall the headline correctly, or did I misunderstand your post?
by Knee high to a duck on Nov 3, 2009 6:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
My point is that although PHI is getting cap relief, they are losing a valuable player. It’s not the same as the Caps getting cap relief if/when Nyls gets moved. The Caps will be opening cap space by moving a non-factor; PHI has to lose a valuable player to fit Foppa. That means when Gagne does come back they’ll still have a problem because he and Foppa probably won’t fit under the cap. PHI isn’t banking cap space with the LTIR exemption, they are just allowed to replace Gagne’s salary with someone else while Gagne is hurt. When he’s healthy, they still have a problem.
If consequences dictate the course of action, then it doesn't matter what's right, it's only wrong if you get caught. If consequences dictate the course of action, then I should play God...
by Fehr and Balanced on Nov 3, 2009 7:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, that’s a huge difference. I was reacting to being out for awhile, since he’s having surgery for his hernias. I’d be surprised if Briere makes it the entire season without injury, too.
by Knee high to a duck on Nov 3, 2009 7:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
As would I. But one way or another PHI has to detract from their current line-up to get Foppa; we don’t.
If consequences dictate the course of action, then it doesn't matter what's right, it's only wrong if you get caught. If consequences dictate the course of action, then I should play God...
by Fehr and Balanced on Nov 3, 2009 8:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Honestlly, I think 3C is a position of need for this team.
by 718CapsFan on Nov 3, 2009 8:53 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
not going to think about this. my head is already about to explode.
by ns on Nov 3, 2009 2:00 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
1-13-14, +7 in NINE regular season games with the Avs 07-08.. that was coming in at the end of the season, basically cold. Nice friggin numbers.
1-4-5 +3 in 7 post-season games as well. Head asplode. Tell Jose to get him on the horn already.
Maybe play with an edge, be a little more physical -- maybe be more of a prick out there.
by jordanDC on Nov 3, 2009 2:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
When you think about the fact that he was giving himself electric chocks and playing hockey at the same time make it even more mind boggling. If you watch the games you can see him put his hand down his pants at almost every stoppage of play. Hmm that sounds kind of bad but you get my point.
by Ice Warrior on Nov 6, 2009 7:09 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t have any links, but I saw a report yesterday night that Foppa is close (very close) to signing with the KHL Ak Bars Kazan.
IS PAЯTY NOW
by Your Nation's Capital on Nov 4, 2009 12:48 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Scratch that. Here’s a link.
IS PAЯTY NOW
by Your Nation's Capital on Nov 4, 2009 12:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I just saw that too. I don’t buy it!
Maybe play with an edge, be a little more physical -- maybe be more of a prick out there.
by jordanDC on Nov 4, 2009 2:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
At the end of the article it mentions the Swedish national team coach as one Bengt Ake Gustafsson, is that the same man who played for the Caps and fathered AnGus?
by Knee high to a duck on Nov 4, 2009 5:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
the one and only. He’ll be leading Team Sweden to Olympic Glory!
by RedBirdie on Nov 5, 2009 12:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It wouldn’t surprise me if he signed with a KHL team – as we saw with Feds, he can make a lot more there. But it seems to me that he has a desire to play for the cup again, given that he can play in Sweden all he wants and probably (baseless assumption) has gotten KHL offers before.
Depends on what he’s looking for, I guess.
by grapejoos on Nov 4, 2009 3:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I watch his first game for Sweden since the gold medal game four years ago and he looked healthy. One of the biggest problems the last couple of years was that he fell on the ice a lot b/c of his foot but last night I only saw him fall twice. He played for 14 minutes and on the left wing. In his games for Modo earlier this season he looked at a security risk defensively he was cranky and took a lot of penalty’s but now he played smarter and more polished. He still got the vision and had a couple of nice steals and some great passes,no points though. He kept up ok with the tempo.
He got two more games this weekend for Sweden the next one will be his 100 game for Tre Kronor.
by Ice Warrior on Nov 6, 2009 7:25 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Keep us updated! Thanks!
Maybe play with an edge, be a little more physical -- maybe be more of a prick out there.
by jordanDC on Nov 6, 2009 8:36 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Foppa Arrives
"Let the rest be scared of us." - Sasha Semin
by Scott in Shaw on Nov 6, 2009 12:16 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
hmm… didnt notice a boot on his foot. Can we assume then it will break again this week? I thought he was fitted with a permanent walking cast…
by bigity b on Nov 6, 2009 5:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He gets hurt a lot, we get it.
Void Boyd! Go with Perreault!
by jordanDC on Nov 6, 2009 5:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
So WTF is the real deal here? This SBN article says that Foppa is with a KHL team, and that the Rags are looking at him. Ignoring the ridiculousness of the idea that the Rags can afford him, what is really going on with this Ak Bars situation? Is SBN way off base or what?
If consequences dictate the course of action, then it doesn't matter what's right, it's only wrong if you get caught. If consequences dictate the course of action, then I should play God...
by Fehr and Balanced on Nov 7, 2009 2:47 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
As far as I understand it, someone reported that Forsberg had signed with AK, then Forsberg came out and said that he wouldn’t be making any decisions until after the tournament he’s playing in now is over. I don’t have a link at hand.
by Knee high to a duck on Nov 7, 2009 3:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
And I think the KHL team denied talking to him. So SBN really just got their facts all messed up?
If consequences dictate the course of action, then it doesn't matter what's right, it's only wrong if you get caught. If consequences dictate the course of action, then I should play God...
by Fehr and Balanced on Nov 7, 2009 3:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t know if that’s what went down, but it looks like that article is factually inaccurate, yeah.
by Knee high to a duck on Nov 7, 2009 3:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Join the community and dive in!
Secondary Sidebar
FanPosts
Community blog posts and discussion.
Recommended FanPosts
Recent FanPosts
FanShots
Quick hits of video, photos, quotes, chats, links and lists that you find around the web.
Recent FanShots
Southeast Standings
| GP | W | L | OTL | PT | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Washington
|
22 | 13 | 5 | 4 | 30 |
|
Tampa Bay
|
19 | 8 | 4 | 7 | 23 |
|
Atlanta
|
18 | 10 | 6 | 2 | 22 |
|
Florida
|
20 | 9 | 9 | 2 | 20 |
|
Carolina
|
21 | 4 | 12 | 5 | 13 |
(updated 11.21.2009 at 8:36 AM EST)
Certain photos copyright © 2009 by Associated Press or Getty Images. Any commercial use or distribution without the express written consent of Associated Press and Getty Images is strictly prohibited.
