Capital Ups and Downs: Week 5
by J.P. on Nov 2, 2009 11:00 AM EST
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PrintOur weekly look at individual Washington Capitals' ups and downs:
| Goalies | Trend | Notes |
| Jose Theodore | - | Gave up one he'd probably like to have back against the Isles and had some hard luck against C'bus, but stopped 41 of 43 (including a penalty shot) against Philly and was 1-0-2/3.63/.895 for the week. |
| Semyon Varlamov | - | Apparently told SovSport after the Atlanta win that the team concentrates more on the game when he's in goal. Now if only he'd concentrate more on the game when he's in goal... |
| Defensemen | ||
| John Erskine | - | Still not ready to play, but the Caps probably have used his skillset against Columbus. |
| Mike Green | - | Points in nine-straight, but an even-rating and very uneven play (albeit not at full health). |
| Milan Jurcina | ▲ | Dare I say... steady? Bonus points for coming right back after taking a nasty spill into the boards against Columbus. Slovakian Machine never breaks? |
| Shaone Morrisonn | - | Can a player fall down the depth chart while sticking on the top pairing? |
| Brian Pothier | ▼ | No production + bad penalty = down arrow |
| Tom Poti | ▼ | Prior to Friday night, Poti had a streak of a half-dozen "+1s" in a row, but he's making bad decisions, failing to clear pucks and generating no offense. |
| Jeff Schultz | - | Offensive outburst apparently behind him, Sarge is back to doing his thing - playing very solid defense with the occasional goofy lookin' gaffe. |
| Tyler Sloan | ▼ | Time to move him to the list of forwards? Or, better yet, Hershey? |
| Forwards | ||
| Keith Aucoin | - | Two points in four games, but hasn't done enough to warrant consideration for a full-time NHL gig once the team gets healthy. |
| Nicklas Backstrom | ▲ | Seven points in four games while battling the flu. Faceoffs are still a concern. |
| Matt Bradley | - | Has had some good opportunities for that second fighting major of the season, but is doing other things, and doing them pretty well. |
| Chris Clark | ▼ | Whatever Clark's on-ice role is on this team right now, he's not doing it well. |
| Eric Fehr | ▼ | With nearly every game that passes, Fehr's "make or break" season seems more and more broken. |
| Tomas Fleischmann | ▲ | Who are you and what have you done with the real Tomas Fleischmann? |
| Boyd Gordon | - | Still out, still missed. |
| Alexandre Giroux | ▼ | Back to Hershey, where he belongs. |
| Mike Knuble | - | Just three goals in 14 games (a 17-goal pace) and a few bad penalties along the way, but his effort is always there. |
| Brooks Laich | ▲ | Three helpers against Atlanta and a pair of goals against the Jackets. |
| Quintin Laing | ▲ | Comes back from H1N1 and scores a goal to add yet another chapter in the crazy story that is Laing's hockey life. |
| Brendan Morrison | ▲ | Terrific effort every night. |
| Michael Nylander | ▲ | Five AHL games, five points. Now let's get down to business... |
| Alex Ovechkin | ▲ | Caps Nation holds its collective breath. |
| Alexander Semin | ▼ | Do you really want to be wondering come playoff time if one of your alleged star players is going to show up? |
| David Steckel | - | Strong game against C'bus, but didn't have much else going on this past week. |
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Semin may be in a funk right now, but he is clutch (including come playoff time). He’s the classic lazy player when he doesn’t feel challenged, but when he decides to play, he’s a monster (can you call a finesse player a monster?).
B.Mo looks like he’s 25 again… Best player not named Ovie on many nights this season.
God kills a kitten every time Sidney whines.
by Chris meet Alex on Nov 2, 2009 11:09 AM EST reply actions
All I know is a trade is a really, really good idea right now.
This team needs a fire under their a$$.
They need a fire under their ass for the playoffs, lighting a fire that burns out in February isn’t helpful. A measured approach to this is probably a better one.
by Knee high to a duck on Nov 2, 2009 11:22 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
It’s not doing 27 to be playing in Hershey right now. The only way he’s going to be ready in April is to be in the NHL ASAP.
And the only way to make that happen is a trade, yeah. That’s a fine and good reason to make that trade, but trying to light a fire at this point is a different trade than one that makes room for Alzner, in all probability.
by Knee high to a duck on Nov 2, 2009 11:29 AM EST up reply actions
Yes. If he needs to cut his teeth, let him do it in the regular season, where apparently it’s common place for our D to screw up.
At least a guy like Alzner could presumably learn from the experience.
And yes – need to trade/cap space, blah, blah, blah. As Tim Gunn says, “Make it work.”
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Do you really want to be wondering come playoff time if one of your alleged star players is going to show up?
I think everyone here should probably be able to guess where I come down on this.
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If you were going to make that trade, could you see Anaheim giving up Perry if Semin had signed a reasonable extension? I don’t think that’s a straight-up and the details would have to be jiggered, but Perry is the kind of player we seem to need – nasty, hard to play against, over-the-line dirty.
I would hate it, because I hate Corey Perry, but I wonder what any kind of trade involving 28 would look like.
by Knee high to a duck on Nov 2, 2009 11:36 AM EST up reply actions
I don’t think ANA has any intention of moving Getzlaf or Perry. Moving Semin would have to bring back a lot. He’s still RFA so a trade now or in the off-season gives the team that gets him a lot of control over his movement and the team can keep his contract lower than “market value.” I’d have to think he brings back a top flight player, whether F or D (or G). I could also see a package that was based around a blue chip prospect and a first round pick. The possibilities are too numerous to really speculate concretely, other than to note that he isn’t going to just be given away. His flaws aren’t so glaring that we need to get rid of him, and he undeniably has elite game-breaking talent. I do think that if he moves during the season it will be for an impact roster player because we need to replace that production to contend for the Cup. In the off-season a prospect/pick trade makes more sense.
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agreed
in addition to the obvious talent/youth factor, the additional variable is that Semin is Ovie’s BFF. At the end of the day, that’s not everything…but it is something. And I have to imagine that on some level that relationship would be taken into account.
by DonnieKnutts on Nov 2, 2009 11:59 AM EST up reply actions
but to add to that
If it’s an offseason move (and that’s the only time I could imagine it happening), then it’d presumably be after a Cup-less (or at least conf. final-less) season… and in that case, I think Ovie would overlook his friendships if the deal would put the team closer to a Cup.
by DonnieKnutts on Nov 2, 2009 12:00 PM EST up reply actions
Taken into account by whom? GMGM certainly can’t (or shouldn’t) do anything that could hurt the team (i.e. pay Semin more than we can afford to) just to keep the BFFs together. I have no doubt that AO will continue to dominate if Semin leaves. He’s a pro and he knows where his priorities are. If Semin wants to take into account that AO is his BFF then he can let that be reflected in the contract he signs. In all likelihood we’re going to need to pay 6+ to lock up Baxter for the future, money well worth it. I don’t think we can afford to give 6+ to Semin in addition to AO and Baxter. I’d rather use the limited cap space to keep Green/Carlson/Alzner/Schultz together for the long run. That group of 4D has me very excited about our future. If Semin takes a discount and signs for less than 6 I think it’s wise to keep him because he’ll be outproducing that cap hit, but I don’t think it’s particularly likely. Semin and his agent are well-aware (I’m sure, though with no proof) that Semin’s skill could haul in 6+ on an open market. How much of a discount is it reasonable to assume, that’s the question.
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taken into account by GMGM
…if it were a midseason trade. I could only see it happening during the middle of this season if there is a catastrophic losing streak.
I’m talking trades here, not contracts… I mean, I know that contracts affect trades, but if Semin walks away this summer because the Caps can’t pay him enough, that’s one thing. It’s different—or at least it will be perceived differently—than if the team actively shops and trades him, which I think would bother Ovie if it were done in the middle of the season.
by DonnieKnutts on Nov 2, 2009 12:09 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t think AO is as mentally soft as a lot of other people seem to. I honestly don’t see him changing his play because of how Semin is handled unless it looked like GMGM was trying to publicly humiliate AS or traded him for a bag of rocks (neither of which do I think is likely).
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Agrred 100%. Does anyone here think AO would rather lose with Semin than win without him?
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Agreed, no way Semin stays if he wants 6+million. Backstrom for 6+ and Semin for 5+ is probably the only way it works. Pierre LeBrun reported that the Semin talks weren’t going that well. If true, maybe it’s because Semin does want to be in the $6 million category.
In general, I find LeBrun to be pretty good. He’s got column inches to fill everyday, so he’ll throw stuff out there but he’s certainly no Garrioch. And that kind of info would definitely come from the agent, not McPhee. Still, it doesn’t change the fact that if Semin wants $6 million+, he ain’t stayin’.
That was my thought, but I’m skeptical that LeBrun actually knows what he’s talking about on this one. GMGM is always tight lipped and if Semin’s camp was letting info out why hasn’t one of our beat writers picked up on it yet? (Then again, why didn’t we hear about Mike Green’s Weight Gain 4000 diet until this training camp?)
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Are they both really worth that? I mean, yeah, that would be the going market rate, but why? Michael Nylander*, that’s why. If Nylander takes that Edmonton contract, the ridiculous offer sheets to Vanek and Penner never happen. I’d wager that we wouldn’t be in the “Jeff Finger Era” either. Semin and Backstrom get 3-4M without those offer sheets. Now there is no way they get the same pay as Jeff Finger as they are clearly worth more than Jeff Finger.
(*)only partially snark. I don’t really blame Nylander personally, it was just unfortunately him at the center of that
Do we suspect that Semin is playing hurt, too? Did I see it written that he took a cross check to the back recently? (I never catch all the action on the ice — either it’s because I’ll never be that good at it, or my seat location, or both.) He’s delicate, that way. For a hockey player, anyway. On the other hand, watching some of his play, I sometimes think to myself, wow, I didn’t know he could be that physical (not in the hit department, but muscling for the puck).
Man, Knuble built up a hell of a lot of goodwill on that PK last night; makes the bad penalty mostly forgiveable.
Revealing?
There were three Caps drinking out of paper cups on the bench last night: 19, 28 and 53. The rest were using water bottles.
by TylerG on Nov 2, 2009 11:28 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Good eye
Did you catch that on the TV feed or did one of the beat writers publish that info? If you caught that on TV I’m impressed with your attention to detail.
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Agreed with the others, great catch. We already knew Backstrom was playing sick. Laing is recovering from swine flue, so it’s a given you still don’t want to share with him. If Semin is playing sick, I take it all (or most of it) back.
Semin was sick — the week before Laing and missed two games with his illness. (He had missed the Monday practice and was sent to the doctor; came back Tuesday, and then was out on Wednesday and for the Atlanta and NY Isles games on the road).
Came back. Did well against Philthy. Got cross checked in the back on Friday, was in pain but said he was okay Saturday. He did have two assists on Sunday even though everyone is bitching and moaning about his lack of productivity.
that was a great PK...still
…with his ice time and PP minutes, he should be out-goaling Matt Bradley. Three in 14 is not good.
by DonnieKnutts on Nov 2, 2009 11:36 AM EST up reply actions
It wasn’t his points, it was his everything else. Mostly decision-making.
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by EmilyB on Nov 2, 2009 11:42 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
With his decision-making skills he should be in government.
Earlier in his career it was easy to question his commitment or effort. These days it’s his hockey sense. It’s almost a certainty that when it looks like he should shoot, he’ll pass and vice versa. Makes no sense at all. While he has all the talent in the world his uncanny ability to make the worst decision will keep me from considering him to be an elite-level player.
by Gin and Tonic on Nov 2, 2009 12:58 PM EST up reply actions
Can I get an explanation of what this means?
by Gin and Tonic on Nov 2, 2009 4:00 PM EST up reply actions
it was once said that Semin has all the hockey sense of a rabbit. Hence you occasionally see bunnies when Semin’s (lack of) hockey smarts is brought up.
hey, any excuse to post Sasha’s bongo session. Hopefully, the wonderful photoshops start popping up.
sorry about that, G&T.
the origin of the rabbit reference (and hence NS’s avatar): here (linking the old site so you can get a look at comments).
It’s telling that the defensemen are largely down arrows or steady, the forwards steady or up arrows,
It is not a team with all oars pulling in the same direction.
If you've read this far...seek help.
by ThePeerless on Nov 2, 2009 11:57 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
The Bob Woods effect
D that never played for him in HER are regressing. I don’t think that’s what we were hoping for…
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THAT is a great observation. Definitely Schultz is steadily growing and the more “veteran” D (Particularly Poti – which by the way is a great sitcom name) look a bit lost out there. Is that (hopefully) a temporary effect of getting using to what he expects (or a system?) or something more serious. I think we need to give that one time.
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by Chris meet Alex on Nov 2, 2009 1:02 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
The two P’s on D are really struggling, on both ends of the ice. They cant get their shot off on the power play at all. If they kept a stat for pucks not cleared on the power play Poti might be leading the league…awful. It says a lot (not all good) when Juice might be our most consistent, reliable, d man, but good for Juice.
Part of Poti’s problem is that for some reason, he’s using a scorer’s stick with a curved head instead of a straight one. Which makes those backhand “clears” an adventure. He really needs to go back to the old stick and forget the offense.
I’m not buying it. He’s in the NHL, that’s not even close to an excuse.
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Agreed. Even the plumbers in the show have sick hands, Poti is completely capable of clearing the puck with that (or almost any) curve, his problems stem from being unaware of his time and space, off-balance due to hurrying or pressure, not in proper position, etc. Clearly a decision making problem.
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by Chris meet Alex on Nov 6, 2009 3:50 PM EST up reply actions
Bruce Boudreau on NHL Live noon-two starting … right now. To discuss his book, Ovi’s injury, and NHL to announce its October MVP.
http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=504455
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You can indeed. I run it in the background all the time, like right now. And anyone who thinks that Bruce is saying anything more about Ovie than he’s day-to-day, I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you.
its an audio issue. They took out our sound cards when we got new computers to prevent us from streaming radio!
apparently, when 150 people all stream at once it mucks up the network. I’ve also been told that many people were being rude and not using headphones, and when you work in cube-landia, that’s a huge no-no!
150 concurrent streams is a pretty serious bandwidth issue for an external connection, maybe not so much the internal network.
by Knee high to a duck on Nov 2, 2009 12:50 PM EST up reply actions
You didn’t miss all that much. It was a fairly short interview. NHL Live guys obviously didn’t watch yesterday’s game. Asked about Ovi. Not surprisingly BB had nothing new to say. The one good portion was when EJ asked him about the hazing incident in the book.
A man gotta have a code
Considering the point of him being on was to promote the book, too much time was spend saying nothing about Ovie’s injury.
They had to ask. Not like they took up 5 minutes on it. problem was they only had him for one segment. My biggest complaint with that show is when they get good guests with great stories and the ball starts rolling it ends quickly. They rarely ever hold a guest over into a 2nd segment. The best radio hosts and producers realize when they have something good and adjust on the fly.
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Bruce ON XM Today
For those who have XM, Bruce is supposed to be on NHL Live today sometime between 12-2.
Bummer of the Day
Whatever Clark’s on-ice role is on this team right now, he’s not doing it well.
For a little while I actually thought he was a UFA next summer.
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Guess I was wrong about goalies canceling each other out. Andersen wins the POM award for October. Can’t really argue with the choice.
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I could argue
Did Anderson tie a longstanding record?
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No, but he has stood on his head and has a team many of us thought would be fairly horrible this season to become tied with Pens with most points in NHL.
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COL has scored the 4th most goals in the WC. COL has allowed the 4th fewest goals in the WC. I’d say their rejuvenated offense has as much to do with their record as Anderson’s (admittedly strong) play. Anderson isn’t winning 1-0 games every night, he’s giving strong play behind a very solid team. 6 multi-goal games in 13 is just ridiculous.
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like I said yesterday, what Anderson has done is great. Its just not historically great, and when someone has a historically great month, it needs to be recognized.
Do you think 52 should’ve taken home the Norris last season?
by red army line on Nov 2, 2009 1:50 PM EST up reply actions
actually, yes. On the grounds that he was the best D-man in the regular season last year. Chara’s win was a bit of a “lifetime achievement” award, made easier to give since Lidstrom had an “off” year by his standards and Green is just a kid who’s defense is unfairly trashed, facts be damned, because he’s a little too flashy and eager to score goals.
I think 52 should’ve won the Norris, but I still hold that Anderson was most deserving of the 1st Star. Anyways, they’ll hand out 6 or seven more. Ovie has plenty of more chances.
by red army line on Nov 2, 2009 2:15 PM EST up reply actions
He’s got the best save percentage in the league. Look I love Ovi, but you certainly can make a case for Anderson. I’m fine with it.
Let Anderson enjoy his POM award. Ovi needs to save space on his mantle anyway for those Conn Smythe trophies.
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Tied for the league lead. Meaning someone else was equally good. Who was equally as good as AO? Mario Lemieux. Years ago.
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by Rob Parker on Nov 2, 2009 1:27 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Anderson is an early Hart favorite (even I daresay ahead of Ovie) because everyone expected their team to suck, and they lead the NHL, in no small part to Anderson. They could’ve been scoring 4 times a game and allowing 5 with Budaj in net, but with Anderson they’re even winning 2-0 games.
by red army line on Nov 2, 2009 1:51 PM EST up reply actions
Pure speculation on an empirical question. Budaj doesn’t have a career 5 GAA so there’s no reason to think he would be letting that up.
It’s way to early to even be discussing Hart trophy nominees. I’m only saying that AO’s October > Any one else’s October.
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Meh. To you your opinion, to me mine. I think the NHL got this one right.
by red army line on Nov 2, 2009 2:16 PM EST up reply actions
It’s way to early to even be discussing Hart trophy nominees
Yeah, let’s wait and see where Anderson is in January. He’s a career backup who’s never played more than 31 games in a season. On top of that, he’s been playing in the Eastern Conference for the last three years. Let’s see how he does when the burden of playing a lot of games starts adding up and he has to go through the Western Conference a second time. Good for him that he won the POM, but my vote would have gone to Ovie because of the historical nature of what he accomplished.
I’m not totally surprised, as discussed a couple of days ago. While disappointed, I’ll repeat:
I’ll trade that distinction for getting the last win in June. Anytime.
by gfcaps fan on Nov 2, 2009 1:09 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Well, we all would. But it’s not a trade – we can and should expect and hope for both.
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by J.P. on Nov 2, 2009 1:24 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
By all means. FWIW, I find alcohol helps.
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Nylander’s “stint” in the AHL ends tomorrow right? So barring a trade or a move the Russian in the next 24 hours he will be back at KCI very soon?
" 60 percent of the time...it works everytime"
I’ve got a question. If Nylander approved to be sent to Hershey and then the Caps tried to bring him back up, I know a team could place a claim for him and the Caps would be on the hook for half his salary. The question is, is the acquiring team on the hook for all of his salary cap hit or just half? The reason I ask is that if the cap hit is just half, then I find it hard to believe that some NHL team wouldn’t find him valuable at $2.4 million per year. I could think of a team up in Ontario that could use him right now at that salary. Anybody know the rule?
capgeek has the Stars and the Rags each on the hook for half of Sean Avery’s salary. So that suggests the two teams share it.
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Per 50.9g(ii), it’s half of the remaining amounts, so a team claiming Nylander on recall waivers would pay half and the Caps would pay half this year and next. Each club sees their half on the cap.
But the Caps would take the cap hit next season too, right? Do they let him be recalled now and take the hit for two seasons or take it until the end of season and be ridded of it entirely?
by red army line on Nov 2, 2009 11:11 PM EST up reply actions
I think GMGM waits. I don’t think he wants any dead cap space next year so he won’t put Nyls through re-entry waivers. He knows worst comes to worst he stashes Nyls in HER for a year next season and lets Ted pay him.
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In terms of total cash, if this happened around the midpoint of the season the other team would pay $2.75M for the rest of this year and $1.5M for 2010-11.
At that price I don’t see how someone couldn’t bite.
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Brendan Morrisson
If there were a protocol for a double green arrow, I’d give it to him. It’s still too early, but if he’s still playing at this level come January, I wonder if McPhee has to give some consideration to resigning him for another two years? ( I doubt he’d take a one year deal)
He’s been very good and as good as he’s been on the ice, he’s been as good off it in that he “gets it” – he’s been quoted with a “good enough isn’t good enough” attitude plenty of times already, and seems to be taking on more of a leadership role than most probably expected.
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by J.P. on Nov 2, 2009 3:33 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
As always, it’s as much can they as do they? Will there be enough money left over after Backstrom and Semin are signed and Alzner/Carlson replace expiring contracts on the blue line?
NHL Off The Ice tonight, featuring Ovi, Tavares, and Crosby.
Ovi really off the ice tonight. :(
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Florida
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53 | 25 | 17 | 11 | 61 |
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Washington
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54 | 28 | 21 | 5 | 61 |
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Winnipeg
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56 | 26 | 24 | 6 | 58 |
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Tampa Bay
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53 | 23 | 24 | 6 | 52 |
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Carolina
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55 | 20 | 25 | 10 | 50 |
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