Sunday Caps Clips: End of a Streak
by J.P. on Nov 15, 2009 10:12 AM EST
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- Recaps and other assorted musings on last night's loss from Corey (blog, article), Tarik (blog, article), Vogs, Joe B., Ed Frankovic, Peerless, In Lou We Trust (Devils), and Hockey Mom.
- A bit of what the Caps could learn from Los Diablos. [Peerless]
- Perhaps one of the reasons the Caps lost last night was that they were playing without two of the League's top-18 players around the net. [Behind the Net]
- Down a level, the Bears beat the Baby Pens 3-1 thanks to Karl Alzner's game-winner and Michal Neuvirth's 27 saves (to nail down his fifth win in a row; he's now 6-3-0/2.34/.915 after a rocky start).
- Some leftover thoughts from the Minny side of Friday night's game. [Wild]
- Mathieu Perreault gets some well-deserved love. [CSN Washington]
- Milan Jurcina is "Chara without the offensive upside, though he does have a booming point shot." Srsly? [NHL.com]
- More Caps mentions in NHL.com Olympic previews of the Czech Republic, Canada (where Mike Green misses the cut), Russia (sorry, Varly), Finland (atta boy, O) and Sweden.
- Finally, I love Kevin Paul Dupont as a writer, but taking a shot at Alex Ovechkin for caring about the escrow issue and raising it on a players-only conference call is unfair (as discussed here). [Boston Globe]
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Milan Jurcina is “Chara without the offensive upside, though he does have a booming point shot.” Srsly? [NHL.com]
Milan Jurcina is Chara without the offensive upside, defensive skill, discipline, leadership, or body.
d’I miss anything?
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by Gould Old Days on Nov 15, 2009 10:17 AM EST reply actions
Your boy Alan Ryder likes him some Juice.
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Yeah, I noticed that. Ryder’s analysis is based heavily on TOI, and I think the Caps have been protecting Juice by giving him relatively easy minutes. Juice also dropped off between ‘07-08 and ’08-09. Still, hard to argue too much with Ryder’s method.
I’ve started to come to the conclusion that Juice’s average level is higher than ShaMo’s. Juice is still more inconsistent (though when ShaMo hits a bad patch, it’s very, very bad, and it lasts a very long time).
There are a lot of players who I would hate to see leave the Caps and have success elsewhere. Juice is not one of them. I’d be fine with him playing well somewhere else. Just so he’s gone.
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by Gould Old Days on Nov 15, 2009 4:18 PM EST up reply actions
As for Ryder, I was mostly busting your balls. You know where I come down on Juice. His most recent report notes Juice’s good stats (and lack of PK, which I think should be punished more) but concludes that Juice has “considerable upside for 2010.” That’s no different from what we all say; Juice has a ton of potential and could be a pretty good D. But using my eyes I know that Juice has had that potential for years now and hasn’t done anything appreciable toward realizing it.
Totally agree on your take on Shamo and Juice. If Shamo and Juice were waves Juice would have both the higher amplitude and higher frequency.
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Shhhh! Discussions of WAVEs are taboo… {grin}
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by Gould Old Days on Nov 15, 2009 4:31 PM EST up reply actions
While Semin’s turnover was a key momentum changer in last night’s game, it’s clear our goaltending (particularly when compared to NJ’s) is why we lost. What seems to be happening is what I think many of us thought would happen this year – Theo starts off hot then falters, and Varly gets into a groove and ultimately becomes #1. I just wish it wasn’t happening so early in the season. I think Varly has showed a propensity to lose focus and get tired with extensive playing time game after game, and I wouldn’t have minded if the transition that may be taking place now occurred later in the season so Varly was fresher for the playoffs. Thoughts?
I suspect we’ll look back on this time in March, and realize the story wasn’t nearly so clean. Varlamov is due for a stinker or two here, and Theo will recover some. I think it’s going to be a mess all year.
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by Gould Old Days on Nov 15, 2009 11:15 AM EST up reply actions
Would you believe I just two minutes ago finally got one – and it’s the same as yours! Back to the drawing board . . .
But what does it mean? (cool anyway)
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by Gould Old Days on Nov 16, 2009 1:28 AM EST up reply actions
From Brophy’s article..
Ovechkin is currently out with a mysterious injury that could keep him on the shelf for five weeks. “Maybe he’s not even hurt,” one player joked. “Maybe he’s protesting not getting his escrow back.” Of course that is not the case, but Ovie didn’t do himself any favors by bitching about escrow on a call that was supposed to be about the future of the Players’ Association.
That’s a cute — and common — rhetorical trick. Plant the seed that puts the object in as dark a light as possible, then use the “of course” throw away to make yourself seem like the voice of reason. What do you think the reader will take away from that comment? I’m betting that Ovechkin is a malingerer.
From Dupont’s article…
[S]uperstar Alexander Ovechkin, with a cap figure of $9.538 million, groused about having to surrender the 12.9 percent escrow on last year’s pay. The same hit this season would see Ovie surrender $1.23 million. It’s his privilege to gripe. But that kind of giveback is about equal to the combined gross pay of Vladimir Sobotka and Byron Bitz.
Well, let’s see. Combined, in 28 man games, Bitz and Sobotka are a combined 3-3-6, even, no power play goals, one game-winner. Each of them are tied for 414th in scoring in the NHL. Ovechkin’s numbers are a little better. His value might be a little higher.
I’m sympathetic to the lunch pail guys like Bitz and Sobotka. Frankly, I thought this class of player was all but abandoned by the NHLPA during the negotiations leading up to and through the lockout (they were more concerned about preserving the ability of the high-end players to continue to be high-salary players). And to that extent, I think Dupont has a point about players with means being quiet about things like this in a group setting — a little more sympathetic to the lesser of their species (if this report is true, Ovechkin is guilty of stupendously bad judgment and is why he ought to have representation handle things like any public — even if it is second hand — discussion of escrow issues). But writers could stand to “just…shut up,” too, until this whole thing gets sorted out more clearly.
If you've read this far...seek help.
Peerless, can you cross-post this to G.O.D.‘s thread? Your points are all well made and I’d like to keep that convo together. I’ll be adding my thoughts there too. The next CBA is critical. Thx!
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The thing that I think is silly is that the point is essentially, “Ovechkin makes so much more than these other guys he shouldn’t be complaining” which seems like by exception-that-proves-the-rule logic guys like Bitz and Sobotka have a right to be concerned about it.
But the reality is that Bitz’s $675,000 salary is a heck of a lot more than the $45,556 median of the average male in the United States who worked full time and year round. So…if we extend that logic, does that mean no players should be complaining?
No, and here is why. Bitz might be at the lower end of the NHL scale, but he is probably one of the top 1,000 – 1,500 professional hockey players on the planet. The breadwinner in the median income household is more likely than not to be outside the top 1,000 – 1,500 of his profession (there are many exceptions, but likely a small share of the total number of occupations that might be considered).
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by ThePeerless on Nov 15, 2009 11:23 AM EST up reply actions
I’m not sure I follow. Are you saying that guys like Bitz and Sobotka can be defined two ways; both as (1) high income earners (compared to median for males working full time, year round) and elite in their professions (as being at the very top of their field by being in the NHL) and (2) as guys who don’t make all that much in their respective field (NHL players) and that the latter is the more important and thus is makes more sense that they’d be concerned with the escrow issue?
The point being that the NHL pay scale and income tables in the broader economy are apples and oranges. For what they do, and for where they are in the NHL pay scale, it would be understandable — in my mind — if Bitz or Sobotka, or any other player in their income range, found comments from a player at the top end of the scale a bit too self-serving. A forum such as that in which those comments were allegedly made seems to be the wrong place for that discussion, if it was in the context of “this escrow thing is killing me,” instead of “this escrow thing hits players like those closer to the league minimum harder.” The NHLPA isn’t the Teamsters, but that’s why it is (humor me) a “union.”
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by ThePeerless on Nov 15, 2009 11:52 AM EST up reply actions
I believe that Ovi’s guessing games and “will he or won’t he?” right up to game time were unproductive for the rest of the team. Though it’s possible the team members were aware all along.
I’ll take this moment to criticize the Caps’ usually stellar media management team – Ewell, Rovnak, Boudreau, and also Ovechkin himself – who collectively managed to turn what should have been a normal injury announcement and rehab period (albeit to a highly unusual player) into an absolute circus. We’ve been manipulated now for the best part of two weeks and this whole process has been draining, annoying, and worst of all puts the Caps organization in a very bad light. Their comments and actions were just as cutesy and ultimately as useless as the “Worst of the Care Bears Line” highlight reel.
Although I must concede that it is entirely possible the Caps have been getting a lot of pressure from League offices – NHL.com has run banner stories about AO’s ‘return’ daily since at least Monday, when “Ovechkin – Weekend Warrior?” got higher billing than the Hall of Fame inductions.
And I think they were really shaken up by Knuble’s injury and absence.
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We’ve been manipulated nowfor the best part of two weeksand this whole process has been draining, annoying, and worst of all puts the Caps organization in a very bad light.
Enough with Nylander stuff, eh? Oh, my bad.
by cuqui on Nov 15, 2009 11:14 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
The article about team Sweden were even better earlier today when Kimelman had Fredrik Norrena on the list of likely Swedish Olympic players. It’s hard to take someone serious as an expert when they don’t even know what country players come from. 
But…his “knowledge of the Swedish hockey scene is unquestioned”….
To be fiar, Norrena does have dual citizenship, right? (Although I know he’s played for Finland in the past; declared Finnish for international purposes, etc).
I believe int’l rules state that once you suit up for a country in int’l play, that’s who you suit up for ever after.
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Warning: Do not read this, F&B.
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That wasn't a warning
so much as it was … what’s the word?
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I read his main point to be “you can play a trap and still play entertaining hockey.” That’s very interesting. But the Devils are boring as hell.
I guess that leaves us all saying to New Jersey, “it’s not the trap — it’s you.”
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by Gould Old Days on Nov 15, 2009 2:18 PM EST up reply actions
Maybe. I thought he was more defending the success of the trap, something I’ve never questioned.
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Well, the 1970s Canadians weren’t exactly hard on the eyes…
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by Gould Old Days on Nov 15, 2009 3:46 PM EST up reply actions
I wasn’t born yet so I never watched them actually play, but they had some high-point guys so I assume they at least let their skilled guys play offense. The Lemaire coached trap is probably the least entertaining form of hockey I’ve ever watched. When teams like MIN and CBJ do it because they don’t have the skill to even compete otherwise then I can live with it and ignore those teams as irrelevant. But when you have a talented line-up top to bottom, and “the best evur goalie!!!!!!1” then you should play some real fucking hockey. NJD has, and has had, the skill to compete in a real hockey game. Instead, they make like the Romans and pour salt all over the ice. Fuck ’em.
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Yup. Hey Devils — it’s not the trap I hate, it’s you. Personally.
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by Gould Old Days on Nov 15, 2009 4:19 PM EST up reply actions
What does “real fucking hockey” consist of, exactly? Scoring more goals than the opponent? Allowing as few goals as possible? Capitalizing on opportunities when the other team makes a mistake?
The ideal situation in any sport, particularly those with long, physically demanding seasons, is to get maximum effect out of minimal effort.
High-risk, high-reward hockey may seem the best (and only) system to you, conveniently, because your favorite team plays that way, but it isn’t “real fucking hockey”. Hockey is like any sport in that it trends towards defense, particularly as games become more important.
I’ve read a lot of posts by you railing on Lemaire and the trap, so I guess it’s just a pet peeve of yours, but you succumb to the same laziness many in the media do in that you just assume that’s what the Devils are about, when it’s just not the case.
Sigh, looks like we have another Devils fan that thinks that playing defense is synonymous with playing the trap.
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by Killer_Carlson on Nov 15, 2009 4:46 PM EST up reply actions
Actually, if you’d read what I wrote instead of jumping for the knee-jerk condescension, you’d see that I posit the Devils get a bum rap by lazy reporters who find it easier to label them a trap team than to actually watch a game and give them some credit.
Oh, so the Devilzzz don't trap?
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They’re playing a system far more similar to what they played under Sutter the past two years than what they did in 95.
All teams play a version of the trap at some point in a game. Even your Capitals.
No shit they can’t play the ‘95 trap, the two-line pass rule is gone. Is the point of all this seriously beyond the comprehension of a Devilzzz fan? Are there any out there willing to just admit the trap is boring? Don’t even bother telling me that Lemaire didn’t make this year’s Devilzzz a more trap-happy team than last year’s. Last year they used a pretty aggressive forecheck and let their skill guys be much more aggressive. Maybe you missed that.
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F&B, you won't be able to convince the Devils fan
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by Jake Shapiro on Nov 15, 2009 5:19 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
I can recall two instances in the past two Devils Capitals games recently where aggressive fore checking and continued cycling led to goals for the Devils.
I can also recall two instances in the past two Devils Capitals games recently where defensemen pinching (NOT an attribute of the trap) led to goals for the Devils.
Did you know that Andy Greene has as many goals, in fewer games, as Mike Green?
Your preconceived notions blind you to the facts.
Your preconceived notions blind you to the facts.
Huh? Fehr and Balanced never said that the Devils never forechecked or cycled and never said their defensemen never pinched. He said they play a trapping style (which is true).
Yeah clearly. Andy Greene > Mike Green. And I’m the lazy and ill-informed one.
Pinching is irrelevant. The trap, by and large is a neutral zone strategy. Of course, defensive-minded teams don’t encourage reckless pinching, but then again no team really does unless you need a goal late. The fact that a NJD pinched doesn’t mean they aren’t trapping. Good understanding.
Cycling <> forechecking. Yes, the Devilzzz sustained cycles on the Caps. That doesn’t mean they weren’t trapping.
Last night the Devilzzz came out of the trap for most of the first two periods because they went down 2-0. When they got the lead back they went back to the trap.
Last night the Devilzzz got 3 goals off of a rush that followed a Caps offensive zone turnover. None of that has to do with trapping or not trapping. The other two goals were off of NJD offensive zone face off victories. Again, not trap-related.
Last game, Rolston scored a goal off the cycle. That’s the closest you can come to a non-trap goal. But it doesn’t mean they weren’t trapping. You don’t trap in the offensive zone (not even Lemaire does that … yet). The other two goals were PPGs. Not trap related.
So what’s your point?
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So, despite using tactics not typical of a trap reliant team, the Devils are a trap reliant team because they benefited also from tactics typical of a team that plays the trap?
What?
That doesn’t even make sense. Did you even read the explanation I laid out? Or the one K_C laid out? Pinching and cycling have nothing to do with the trap. Maybe the italics threw you off. Pinching and cycling HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THE TRAP. Maybe you don’t like caps lock. Pinching and cycling have nothing to do with the trap. Maybe you’re just a plain ol’, boring, no effects kinda guy (that shoulda been my first guess). Pinching and cycling have nothing to do with the trap.
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All of Andy Greene’s goals are on the PP. The trap does not preclude defensemen from scoring, or jumping into the play when the team is already set up in the zone. It does preclude defensemen from rushing the puck and creating the offense the way Mike Green does. The fact that you try to compare the games of Green and Greene based purely on goal totals is the definition of lazy.
The Devils have created goals against the Caps through pressuring their D and cycling well. That is also not contrary to the trap. The lack of aggressive forecheck that F&B talks about is when the Devils dump the puck in and send in one forechecker leaving everyone else high at the blueline. If the D gets the puck out, the Devils are then waiting with 4 guys in the neutral zone. If the one forechecker can create a turnover (which happens far too often with the Caps D) then the Devils control the puck in the zone and apply a lot of pressure with their cycle. Just because they don’t retreat once they get control in the offensive zone doesn’t mean that they aren’t trapping. It’s called the neutral zone trap for a reason.
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by Killer_Carlson on Nov 15, 2009 5:35 PM EST up reply actions
Knee-jerk condescension only comes when someone comes aboard calling those who disagree with him/her lazy.
My comment was in response to the implication of you and other Devils fans that the only choices are to play run and gun high risk hockey, or focus on defense and play the trap. But there are plenty of teams that are excellent defensively without playing the trap. It’s a false dichotomy to say that it’s a choice between playing like the caps and playing like the Devils.
And are you really trying to suggest that the Devils don’t play the trap? Seriously? I live in the Devils broadcast area and have Center Ice, and I have seen enough of the Devils to know that they have been a boring, trapping team for over 15 years (minus the brief influence of Brent Sutter. Unfortunately that respite was too good to be true).
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by Killer_Carlson on Nov 15, 2009 4:58 PM EST up reply actions
Addendum
Here at Japers’ Rink we pride ourselves in having intelligent and objective discussions on the merits of the game of hockey, and the individual teams and players. We try not to name-call and we try, whenever possible, to READ, then THINK, then WRITE, then THINK, then POST. Now, you assert that you read my posts on the trap, but this is clearly not the case. This is now the second time, following the last 2 NJD/WAS games that a NJD fan has come here and disparaged us based on our (well-formed) opinion of a particular style of play. First we were told “we don’t know what we’re talking about” and now we are called “lazy.” Suffice it to say, if you would bother reading the posts or comments on this site when they don’t pertain to your precious soul-crushers you would clearly realize that we are neither lazy nor ill-informed. If your OPINION of the trap is that it is exciting hockey, that’s on you. I don’t particularly care, but leave your missionary work at home (missionary… get it… cuz it’s the most boring… oh whatever). DO NOT be condescending or dismissive. Such insults will not be taken lightly.
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Intelligent and objective discussion. Is that what you call your vitriolic diatribes in the game threads?
I spoke up after weeks of reading your (and others, but you stand out as the most vocal) hatred only because it’s not just you. It’s lazy reporting by reporters, it’s lazy announcing by announcers and it’s lazy excuses by fans.
I should know better than to expect that I’d get anything but stung for sticking my hand into a beehive. I expect you’ll continue to believe what you want to believe because it’s easy, and I expect I won’t come around this site any more to read about it.
My diatribes are usually saved for non-GDTs. I don’t get that long-winded in the GDTs because I am watching the game. I do consider myself intelligent and objective. But you come around only when NJD is discussed so you really have no baseline or understanding by which to evaluate me. You conclude that because I hate the trap, and I maintain that the Devils do play the trap, that I’m somehow not objective or intelligent. Query good friend, where were my diatribes last season when the Devils played the Caps?
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Not my conclusion at all. If I thought you stupid, I would more easily be able to dismiss your unmitigated hatred as a symptom of your stupidity. I may be many things, but willing to attempt to reason with an idiot is not one of them.
I do, having read your posts in several game threads, post game threads and various other threads at several other SBN sites, conclude you’re not objective.
I couldn’t say where they were, I wasn’t a reader at that time.
Right, well you seemed to agree with me when I said Scott Stevens wasn’t dirty. But that time I was arguing for a Devils player. I’m not sure what that means…
If you’ll read the rest of my interaction in that thread, you’ll see that I actually listened to opposing views, digested them, and re-formed my position. In the end I actually agreed with Dom that my original statement was wrong. If that’s not objective then I don’t know what is. (It’s not objective its’ weak!)
Feel free to provide evidence and/or analysis at any time.
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(I will give you this, my hatred of the trap is unmitigated.)
(As to my diatribes last season… they don’t exist because the Devils weren’t trapping.)
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You are now just repeating your one line of “the Devils don’t trap, you’re lazy if you think they do” without any real analysis of their strategy to show that they don’t trap (unless you consider Greene scores as much as Green real analysis of hockey strategy). Now who’s being lazy?
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by Killer_Carlson on Nov 15, 2009 5:38 PM EST up reply actions
Fast skating, crisp passes, display of individual skill, speed and continuous play. I even like good open ice body checks but those aren’t even prevalent in the trap because the pace of the game is so slow. If you’re a Devilzzz fan that just wants to extol the virtues of the trap, then you’ve got a place for that. I understand why you come here because there are …checking… 54 comments on the SBN Devilzzz blog since before the Caps/NJD game, and Japers’ Rink has the best conversations around. I just ask that you consider yourself a Jehova’s Witness when you come by here. Don’t bother offering, I’m not interested in your stupid fucking religion.
If you did in fact read my post, you wouldn’t call me lazy. I clearly know what I’m talking about, I clearly do my research, and I clearly don’t just blindly toss out media-driven stereotypes. What kind of hockey did the Pens play? Wings? Ducks? ‘Canes? Lightning? Since 2003 there has been at most one trapping team to even play in the SCF (I’d say maybe you could hit EDM for their defensive style but by and large I think they did rely on speed and getting the puck deep; not sitting in the neutral zone and making the game a dump and chase fest. Either way, they lost.)
High-risk, high-rewardEye-gougingly-boring-trap hockey may seem the best (and only) system to you, conveniently, because your favorite team plays that way, but it isn’t "real fucking hockey".
Fixed that for you. Coincidentally, as noted above, much more successful teams employ the same style of hockey as my favorite team than does yours. Are the Caps the best at it? Not yet. Can they improve their D? For sure. Does that mean they have to trap? Definitely not. Do the Devilzzzz have to trap to succeed? Definitely not. Did they win their division playing “real fucking hockey” last season? For sure. Are they contemptible pussies for reverting back to that old hack tool? For sure.
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Well, I had a nice response all typed out, but SB ate it.
Point is, you have it made up in your mind what the Devils are and you refuse to admit that it might be different.
I don’t see any evidence of that. The Devils have primarily played a trap for the last fifteen years or so and they’re primarily playing a trap this year. They didn’t last year. It doesn’t have anything to do with anyone being willing to accept something difference, especially given that F&B noted several times that the Devils briefly got away from the trap in recent seasons.
Guess that makes two of us.
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maximum effect out of minimal effort
Sounds pretty darned boring to me. Hockey is entertainment. Ask people what they like about hockey, and you’ll typically hear “speed,” “hitting,” “scoring.” For crying out loud, the game is played on ice!
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by Gould Old Days on Nov 15, 2009 5:56 PM EST up reply actions
Can't believe I missed that line.
I’ve never heard a single coach say they ever wanted minimal effort. Not even a trapping coach. The accurate summation would be maximum effect out of maximum effort.
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Not to knock fellow members of the Rink, but at what point do you just stop arguing with someone like that? If I’m getting a headache just trying to follow the thread, I can’t imagine what you guys are feeling.
This is how I feel
And I stop when all the swimmers are out of the water.
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Commenter's Remorse
Kinda wish I went with this one but the previous shark cage comments started me on the wrong track…
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alligator or crocodile?
alligator, because he’s smiling.
by Natty Bumppo on Nov 16, 2009 3:01 AM EST up reply actions
Is there any word on whether Ovechkin will play on Tuesday? Just wondering.
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by Brad_Richards_Rocks on Nov 15, 2009 12:45 PM EST reply actions
I think we’ll know more when they practice (@ the Prudential Center) tomorrow. We’ll see if AO does a full-contact type scrimmage. Team has the day off today in NYC, then practice tomorrow and morning skate on Tuesday. I think they’d really like him back and there’s no question if he wants to play.
I hope Mike Knuble can fly up and join them @ the game. His surgery was successful, or so we’re told, but still a 3-4 week timeframe.
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Need some advice—JP, I know you’re big into hockey cards, so maybe you can help me out on this?
I’m just now getting into those McFarlane hockey action figures (nerdy, I know), but I can’t find any good blogs/websites on them. Even the official McFarlane website is pretty early-’00s. Anyone know somewhere I can go for this?
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J.P. I’ve been wanting to ask about the couple sitting behind you Friday night. Any fun quotes?
"Camaraderie, that's what the Washington Capitals are all about."
I can’t recall any in particular. It was just bad and awkward overall.
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It’s really cool that Wyshynski gives Ovechkin gets credit for the 2nd best statistical season of the decade, but someone might want to suggest that Puck Daddy put a photo there of Ovechkin from that season (or at least wearing the same jersey he wore that year)…
Atta dinnin stick a who!
The “other” turning point from last night’s game — and puts a point on Theo’s latest lull in effectiveness — was the fantastic save Brodeur had on Chris Clark late in the second period. Clark got the rebound Brodeur knocked away on Bradley’s (I think) shot and fired right away, and Brodeur made the save. That would have tied it at 3. Instead, the Devils make it 4-2 moments later, and it’s game over.
Think of the goal Theo allowed Wednesday night where he kicked out the rebound and Moulson scored.
More from the Daddy (quoting the Globe) – Marc Savard is apparently close to signing an extension
Savard is likely to average in the $6 million-$6.5 million range for another four or five seasons,
Savard’s 32 — he’ll be 37 at the end of a 5 year extension. Seems like that’s the going market price for a 1st line center. I’d rather have Backstrom for 5 years at that price than Savard, no doubt.
Atta dinnin stick a who!
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Southeast Standings
| GP | W | L | OTL | PT | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Florida
|
50 | 24 | 15 | 11 | 59 |
|
Washington
|
51 | 27 | 20 | 4 | 58 |
|
Winnipeg
|
53 | 24 | 23 | 6 | 54 |
|
Tampa Bay
|
50 | 22 | 23 | 5 | 49 |
|
Carolina
|
53 | 19 | 25 | 9 | 47 |
(updated 2.4.2012 at 6:07 PM EST)
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