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Nylander to Minsk a done deal?

Geez, ladies at the Chicken Ranch aren’t “done” so much in so little time.

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by ThePeerless on Nov 12, 2009 6:53 AM EST reply actions  

There’s an early 90’s song that runs through my head when I read stuff like this these days called “King of Wishful Thinking”.

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by gotsparkly on Nov 12, 2009 8:14 AM EST up reply actions  

Or not. [In The Room]

Poop.

What happened to “Hockey blogging from the most powerful city in the world”? SB insist you have to have the team name in the tagline?

"You're gonna eat that g**d**n Koho, three!"

by fat_daddyo on Nov 12, 2009 6:57 AM EST reply actions  

The didn’t insist, but the way that Google and other search engines work, we were missing out on a lot of traffic by not having the team name in there.

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by J.P. on Nov 12, 2009 8:05 AM EST up reply actions  

Sell out.

If consequences dictate the course of action, then it doesn't matter what's right, it's only wrong if you get caught. If consequences dictate the course of action, then I should play God...

by Rob Parker on Nov 12, 2009 2:16 PM EST up reply actions  

With Bettman in the crowd, I was kinda embarrassed Clark won the game. Strip him of the C.

"I'm just doing karate and trying to get females pregnant."

by Bald Pollack on Nov 12, 2009 7:22 AM EST reply actions   3 recs

Didja see Bettman wince at the very thought of handing Clark the Cup? Way to make a strong man shudder, Captain.

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by EmilyB on Nov 12, 2009 7:29 AM EST up reply actions  

Alexander Semin, for scoring two beautiful goals — and creating Sean Bergenheim’s goal by making like a pee-wee playing his first game with bodychecking? (Seriously, the way Semin panicked and threw the puck to the worst spot on the ice was a breathtaking sight for a player of such talent.)
Semyon Varlamov, for steadying the fort after Theodore and his teammates crapped the bed?

From Lighthouse Hockey on who might be the MVP’s of the game. That kind of summed it all up for me. Didn’t really need to read anything else, although it was nice to see the Captain as a hero for a night.

by HateOffSeason on Nov 12, 2009 7:52 AM EST reply actions  

Yeah, that Semin giveaway was indeed atrocious beyond words.

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by J.P. on Nov 12, 2009 8:06 AM EST up reply actions  

… and yet he wasn’t credited with a giveaway.

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by J.P. on Nov 12, 2009 8:08 AM EST up reply actions  

Well, I guess skating along the blue line trying to out deke the entire Islanders team, and getting freight trained as a result is more of a takeaway for outstanding defensive play than it is a giveaway for showing your rediculous skill in a boneheaded way.

by HateOffSeason on Nov 12, 2009 8:12 AM EST up reply actions  

Perhaps, though just prior to getting hit, he pushed the puck out into space.

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by J.P. on Nov 12, 2009 8:15 AM EST up reply actions  

Freight trained? Check the highlights – there was literally hardly any contact between Semin and the Islanders player.

by David Getz on Nov 12, 2009 8:23 AM EST up reply actions  

The contact came, but it was after he’d coughed up the puck.

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by J.P. on Nov 12, 2009 8:25 AM EST up reply actions  

Contact, sure, but what I see is Semin trying to avoid the hit and tripping over the guy’s skates. Could be the angle, and the hit would have been pretty big if Semin hadn’t made the move to avoid it, but it still doesn’t look like he was hit all that hard.

by David Getz on Nov 12, 2009 8:30 AM EST up reply actions  

I think we’d agree, thought, that whether he was or wasn’t hit hard is really beside the point…

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by J.P. on Nov 12, 2009 8:32 AM EST up reply actions  

Agree with this.

Turnovers, and real bad turnovers at that, at the blue line are a part of living with Alex Semin. He almost never elects to make the simple hockey play. Sometimes he pulls it off with spectacularly good results; sometimes he doesn’t, with spectacularly bad results.

"You're gonna eat that g**d**n Koho, three!"

by fat_daddyo on Nov 12, 2009 8:40 AM EST up reply actions  

On that very play, I was getting excited b/c the dude on the RW looked open and if Semin had gotten it to him, he and the C would’ve had a 2-on-1 down low. Oh well, such is Sasha…

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by J.P. on Nov 12, 2009 8:47 AM EST up reply actions  

If memory serves, ShaMo was on the left side down low. I don’t understand why he was attacking and was farther up the ice than Semin, BMo, and one other player (Laich?). Seems to me that he should have hung back a bit and been in position for that turnover, but I’m no coach.

"If you're gonna die after 24, might as well jump out at 23:59, no?"

by Laich It Or Lump It on Nov 12, 2009 8:52 AM EST up reply actions  

This is probably why Morrisonn isn’t usually asked to join the rush.

Void Boyd! Go with Perreault!

by jordanDC on Nov 12, 2009 8:53 AM EST up reply actions  

Based on the way the play developed the Caps had a chance for an odd man rush is Mo jumped up, so he did.

by David Getz on Nov 12, 2009 8:56 AM EST up reply actions  

Gotcha. I’ll have to watch that play in the highlights. Unfortunately, that is frowned on at work, so I’ll check it out later.

"If you're gonna die after 24, might as well jump out at 23:59, no?"

by Laich It Or Lump It on Nov 12, 2009 8:58 AM EST up reply actions  

Well, whomever it was, a 2-on-1 was in the makin’.

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by J.P. on Nov 12, 2009 8:57 AM EST up reply actions  

If you watch the replay, you can see ShaMo flying past Semin towards the Isles goal. Why on God’s earth he’s doing that is beyond me when he knows Semin is 50/50 to lose the puck at the blue line. Terrible giveaway by Sasha, but equally dumb play by ShaMo. If there’s a vote to be taken on which existing defenseman should be moved, he’s got my vote.

by b.orr4 on Nov 12, 2009 9:02 AM EST up reply actions  

Do you recall who was on the right side of the ice?

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by Laich It Or Lump It on Nov 12, 2009 9:04 AM EST up reply actions  

A certain Mike Green, but he was nowhere in the picture either. BMo was the only guy who had the sense to cover the point.

by b.orr4 on Nov 12, 2009 9:08 AM EST up reply actions  

I have to disagree. When the play start B-Mo picks up the puck and red line and Laich and Semin are on the Isles’ blue line, standing still so as to not come offside. As B-Mo makes the pass, ShaMo comes through the neutral zone with speed and enters the Islanders zone with a chance to create the odd man play. I think it’s a good move on his part.

by David Getz on Nov 12, 2009 9:07 AM EST up reply actions   2 recs

Yep, Locker made that point with a pretty good breakdown at one point, wondering why Semin skated along the blueline.

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by Bald Pollack on Nov 12, 2009 9:09 AM EST up reply actions  

Ah, I think I remember that now. There’s little doubt the blame ultimately falls on Semin for trying to stick handle through two Dmen.

"If you're gonna die after 24, might as well jump out at 23:59, no?"

by Laich It Or Lump It on Nov 12, 2009 9:12 AM EST up reply actions  

Well, but, isn’t that something Ovi does all the time? Aim high, Sasha…

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by CapitalCentre on Nov 12, 2009 9:51 AM EST up reply actions  

AO would have seen that hit coming and freight trained the hitter. Then scooped that puck up and gone on his merry way. I don’t think I’ve ever seen AO try to bitch out of getting hit.

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by Rob Parker on Nov 12, 2009 2:20 PM EST up reply actions  

WaPo photogallery. See pic #3.

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by EmilyB on Nov 12, 2009 2:49 PM EST up reply actions  

That picture of Mo is awesome.

One guy just drove his semi as a float. I guess semis are cool.

by zephyr on Nov 12, 2009 2:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Agreed.

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by EmilyB on Nov 12, 2009 3:03 PM EST up reply actions  

We’ll just have to disagree on that one. In my view, when Semin is cutting across the blueline, no d-man should be putting himself in a position to be caught low knowing his propensity to turn over the puck there. I mean, it’s not like he hasn’t done it ten times already.

by b.orr4 on Nov 12, 2009 9:10 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah but you can’t think about what Semin’s proclivities are when you’re in the rush. Besides, with a chance to even it up, if one of those defensemen pull up, then you’ve given up the man advantage (which I thought they had) on said rush and wasted a possible scoring opportunity.

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by Bald Pollack on Nov 12, 2009 9:20 AM EST up reply actions  

you can’t think about what Semin’s proclivities are when you’re in the rush

I think you can (though I have no problem with Mo’s play here). After all, Mo’s a guy who won big in arbitration two summers ago precisely because he knew his D partner’s proclivities and played accordingly.

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by J.P. on Nov 12, 2009 9:21 AM EST up reply actions  

This happened on several occassions last night. The winger carries the puck into the zone, puts on the break and the trailer (often a defenseman) skates to the net looking to create. Pothier did it several times. My guess is that that is something that Bruce is coaching too.

Its a fine play as long as the puck gets deep at some point. If not with a shot, its gotta be a dump. The play creates offense but as Bobby says below, its risky.

"I think the relentless negative coverage in The Washington Post is a real difference from previous years," Redskins general counsel David Donovan said. "But in terms of the way our actual fans are behaving, we don't see any difference."

by Sct112 on Nov 12, 2009 10:50 AM EST up reply actions  

Yep – Pothier has been doing it a lot lately, and it’s been creating chances and goals (one of Sloan’s and another I can’t recall at the moment) because it’s dragging the D down with him and freeing up a trailing F.

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by J.P. on Nov 12, 2009 10:53 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah but you can’t think about what Semin’s proclivities are when you’re in the rush.

To the contrary, I think that’s exactly what a defensive-minded d-man should be doing. It would be different if it were a guy b-mo or Laich who are fairly responsible with the puck, but Semin is a known turnover machine. ShaMo first responsibility is to stop goals, not score them. I’m not against calculated risks like rushing the puck or pinching from the point, but that was a very risky move and the proof is in the result.

by b.orr4 on Nov 12, 2009 9:28 AM EST up reply actions  

He wouldn’t be. Trent Hunter was credited with a hit on the play. I take giveaways to be more of the “unforced error” sort of thing.

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by ThePeerless on Nov 12, 2009 9:08 AM EST up reply actions  

Whoever’s counting that as a hit needs to have his eyes checked. Semin panicked when he saw Hunter coming at him and went into a slide well before there was any contact.

by b.orr4 on Nov 12, 2009 9:13 AM EST up reply actions  

Such is the way of subjective stats.

"If you're gonna die after 24, might as well jump out at 23:59, no?"

by Laich It Or Lump It on Nov 12, 2009 9:14 AM EST up reply actions  

A little late to ask, but do you have any idea why neither d-man was close enough to even get in the frame by the time this goal was scored? I understand it was a bad giveaway and all…

by mechanicsville on Nov 12, 2009 4:38 PM EST up reply actions  

But the team was strong enough to work around that mistake 9and the other glaring errors of the first five minutes). It was a solid team win. When things worked well, the team worked great. When things didn’t work well, the team made adjustments, thought their way through the problem, didn’t panic, and showed faith in each other’s strengths.

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by EmilyB on Nov 12, 2009 8:08 AM EST up reply actions  

Of course, more complete teams than the Islanders would have made the Caps pay for that first five minutes over and over and over.

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by EmilyB on Nov 12, 2009 8:09 AM EST up reply actions  

One wonders if that first five minutes would have happened against a more complete team than the Islanders.

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by gotsparkly on Nov 12, 2009 8:15 AM EST up reply actions   2 recs

I heard some teams win games by more than one goal pretty often, that would be wild.

Void Boyd! Go with Perreault!

by jordanDC on Nov 12, 2009 8:18 AM EST up reply actions  

Hey, even the Caps are known to do it on occasion!

by gfcaps fan on Nov 12, 2009 8:20 AM EST up reply actions  

The Islanders have otherwordly forces behind them. (Their record is a dead giveaway)

by b.orr4 on Nov 12, 2009 9:05 AM EST up reply actions  

I was driving to the rink during the shootout so I didn’t see it, but did I hear correctly that they were throwing hats again for a 2 goal + shootout goal performance?

Void Boyd! Go with Perreault!

by jordanDC on Nov 12, 2009 8:13 AM EST reply actions  

Not many, but yes. I know we were all yelling NO HATS.

Fight, you time-wasting figure skaters!

by boutros23 on Nov 12, 2009 8:15 AM EST up reply actions  

Sad that that has to be yelled.

"I think the relentless negative coverage in The Washington Post is a real difference from previous years," Redskins general counsel David Donovan said. "But in terms of the way our actual fans are behaving, we don't see any difference."

by Sct112 on Nov 12, 2009 10:52 AM EST up reply actions  

I’ve stopped caring. But my friend and new hockey fan Caitlyn has now seen hats on the ice in the shootout in two of her first two hockey games and thinks it is expected.

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by EmilyB on Nov 12, 2009 8:16 AM EST up reply actions  

This is why that whole thing needs to stop.

Void Boyd! Go with Perreault!

by jordanDC on Nov 12, 2009 8:17 AM EST up reply actions  

And while getting wings is nice (although I haven’t redeemed for any of them yet), the shootout goal doesn’t count in stats, so it shouldn’t count for wings.

by gfcaps fan on Nov 12, 2009 8:20 AM EST up reply actions  

…but then we don’t get wings so much!

Void Boyd! Go with Perreault!

by jordanDC on Nov 12, 2009 8:22 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, but if they want it to count, I won’t say no. Glory Days has good chow, big screen TV’s, and nice people, and an excuse to go there isn’t bad.

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by gotsparkly on Nov 12, 2009 8:24 AM EST up reply actions  

Not complaining, and obviously Glory Days is okay with that. It’s just odd.

by gfcaps fan on Nov 12, 2009 8:26 AM EST up reply actions  

It doesn’t hurt that there’s a Glory Days walking distance from my dad’s place. My dad follows the Caps enough to know when I should have a free wings ticket :)

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by gotsparkly on Nov 12, 2009 8:28 AM EST up reply actions  

It’s not walking distance, but there’s one pretty close to me. We went a couple of times last season, just haven’t cashed in this year yet. Strangely, yesterday I was suggesting that we should use the ones from the Florida game and then, poof, we get another one.

by gfcaps fan on Nov 12, 2009 9:07 AM EST up reply actions  

Glory Days had better stock up on wings at the rate the Caps are going.

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by gotsparkly on Nov 12, 2009 9:13 AM EST up reply actions  

There’s a chicken joke in there, but I’m no good at that sort of stuff.

by gfcaps fan on Nov 12, 2009 9:15 AM EST up reply actions  

I miss the Papa John’s deal.

Fight, you time-wasting figure skaters!

by boutros23 on Nov 12, 2009 9:19 AM EST up reply actions  

still going on, for sunday games i think (free toppings on monday) – i get emails about it every time we play a sunday game

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by kellobellow on Nov 12, 2009 9:27 AM EST up reply actions  

It’s still going on for Sunday games.

I have to admit that the question of finding an acceptable combination of 14 toppings on a pizza is a good dilemma to have.

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by gotsparkly on Nov 12, 2009 1:38 PM EST up reply actions  

My old roommate and I did carryout and demanded that we have 8 portions of cheese with one of these deals. Needless to say we had no intention of eating it, but the amount of unmelted cheese in the center was impressive.

by Yoshietree on Nov 12, 2009 7:11 PM EST up reply actions  

yep, plus when i went last weekend, they said they changed the number of wings in their orders, so you get 12 instead of 10 :)

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by kellobellow on Nov 12, 2009 9:26 AM EST up reply actions  

Nice.

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by gotsparkly on Nov 12, 2009 1:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Random stats:

The Caps have played around 1,097 minutes of hockey so far this season and have trailed by two goals for 13:58 of that (with last night’s down-two span of 6:48 being more than twice as long as any other such stretch). They have yet to trail by more than two in any game.

All that means that for just under 99% of game time, the Caps either have had the lead, were tied, or were within a goal of tying the game.

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by J.P. on Nov 12, 2009 8:21 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

just under 99% of game time, the Caps either have had the lead, were tied, or were within a goal

Mind blowing stat, imo, and a testimony to the great combination of high-end skill and depth through the lineup on the Caps.

Now, if they could just get their heads in the game…

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by fat_daddyo on Nov 12, 2009 8:26 AM EST up reply actions  

Interesting stuff, JP. How much ice time have they spent up by two goals or more out of that? Just curious.

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by gotsparkly on Nov 12, 2009 8:26 AM EST up reply actions  

I knew someone would ask that… let me run the numbers.

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by J.P. on Nov 12, 2009 8:33 AM EST up reply actions  

223:04.

So for about 20% of game time, the Caps have had leads of two or more. This covers ten games (more than half, obviously).

Summarizing, 20% of the time the Caps have had a two-plus goal lead, 79% of the time the games have been tied or within a goal, and 1% of the time, the Caps have trailed by two.

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by J.P. on Nov 12, 2009 8:44 AM EST up reply actions  

Interesting. Very interesting. Thanks for that, JP. Obviously it could be a lot more than that, but that’s still a fairly decent margin.

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by gotsparkly on Nov 12, 2009 9:00 AM EST up reply actions  

This stuff is worth its own fanpost, so the mainstream press can steal it more conveniently. How are they going to find it buried down here in the comments like this?

Atta dinnin stick a who!

by Gould Old Days on Nov 12, 2009 9:09 AM EST up reply actions   3 recs

I was thinking of pulling it together in a post, actually.

And I tweeted it for their inspirational usage.

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by J.P. on Nov 12, 2009 9:18 AM EST up reply actions  

This the Post/Times writers follow you on twitter?

"If you're gonna die after 24, might as well jump out at 23:59, no?"

by Laich It Or Lump It on Nov 12, 2009 9:20 AM EST up reply actions  

Far as I know.

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by J.P. on Nov 12, 2009 9:22 AM EST up reply actions  

Interesting. (And that was supposed to say think, not this)

"If you're gonna die after 24, might as well jump out at 23:59, no?"

by Laich It Or Lump It on Nov 12, 2009 9:23 AM EST up reply actions  

You could make up some good shit we know isn't true

It’s not like the MSM (not so much Corey and TEB) havent pilfered material before.

by S h a g g y on Nov 12, 2009 9:36 AM EST up reply actions  

just under 99% of game time, the Caps either have had the lead, were tied, or were within a goal

And they’ve spent much of that time trying to blow leads by turning puck over and taking dumb penalties. Discipline is standing between this team and the Cup.

How many 3rd period leads have they now blown?

A man gotta have a code

by Carl Putnam on Nov 12, 2009 8:38 AM EST up reply actions  

Not sure, but they’re 7-0-1 when leading after two periods.

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by J.P. on Nov 12, 2009 8:45 AM EST up reply actions  

They are, in fact, 7-0-1 when leading after two. Oddly enough, that’s tied for 16th in winning percentage (.875). They are also 2-0-0 when trailing after one. That winning percentage leads the league.

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by ThePeerless on Nov 12, 2009 9:11 AM EST up reply actions  

I just looked it up. They have blown leads in the 3rd period 5 games so far this season. They got 6 points in those 5 games. This is what drive me nuts. I wish they had gotten zero instead. This team is so talented and resilient that they get away with too much.

A man gotta have a code

by Carl Putnam on Nov 12, 2009 9:24 AM EST up reply actions  

I think I’ll take the points

by WolfPackof1 on Nov 12, 2009 9:25 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I’d prefer they they lose the points now and gain the discipline needed for April – June.

A man gotta have a code

by Carl Putnam on Nov 12, 2009 9:26 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Well, that just doesn’t make much sense. I’m glad you didn’t get your wish.

by mechanicsville on Nov 12, 2009 4:43 PM EST up reply actions  

It makes perfect sense. If you get away with your mistakes chances are you will continue to make them. Basic human behavior. I’d rather win the Stanley Cup than the President’s Trophy.

A man gotta have a code

by Carl Putnam on Nov 12, 2009 6:55 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m more inclined to take the points whenever and however they’re made available and I’m doubtful that losing those points would reduce the mistakes. I understand your point, but I don’t agree. Gotta think that the highest possible seeding gives you the best path in the playoffs, enhancing your odds at winning that Cup that we’d both very much enjoy.

by mechanicsville on Nov 12, 2009 11:36 PM EST up reply actions  

I linked to this in the sidebar, but it’s worth a read if you’ve got a couple of minutes.

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by J.P. on Nov 12, 2009 8:26 AM EST reply actions  

Interesting read. Physicality with a direct hockey purpose versus physicaltiy only for the sake of intimidation. I like this quote in particular:

In any hockey game, hundreds of small battles are fought all over the ice, and to come out on top skaters need to play with a physical edge, and also with courage; the courage to take a hit to make a play…

Some of our guys need to heed this advice IMO.

"If you're gonna die after 24, might as well jump out at 23:59, no?"

by Laich It Or Lump It on Nov 12, 2009 8:45 AM EST up reply actions  

Can’t believe we’re almost a quarter through the season already. Why didn’t summer go this fast?

by TFG on Nov 12, 2009 8:26 AM EST reply actions  

Because it was so long :(

Void Boyd! Go with Perreault!

by jordanDC on Nov 12, 2009 8:27 AM EST up reply actions  

Perreault had another solid game

Didn’t see his shootout attempt, but he was on the doorstep to make sure Fehr’s goal got behind the line. He showed more great moving, passing and forechecking in the offensive zone. I love how he gets the puck along the boards, dodges a hit, moves the puck, and then gets on a rail to the front of the net. He knows how he’s going to score in this league.

Void Boyd! Go with Perreault!

by jordanDC on Nov 12, 2009 8:47 AM EST reply actions  

had the goalie beat in the shootout, just needed to lift it a bit

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by kellobellow on Nov 12, 2009 8:49 AM EST up reply actions  

So what’s in store for Perreault from here? With Gordon likely coming back this weekend, will Perreault be forced back down to Hershey? Is it a matter of earning a role or no roster spots being available? Would Nylander to Minsk resolve this?

I really don’t want to see the kid go – he’s been a bright spot in a sour timespan (albeit 3-1) with Ovechkin out.

by TFG on Nov 12, 2009 8:55 AM EST up reply actions  

I still can’t call this a sour timespan. I really can’t. I think this sequence with Ovi out is flat essential for the team – it forces them to play as a team and not let one man be the hero, and that can only be good.

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by gotsparkly on Nov 12, 2009 9:01 AM EST up reply actions  

yeah, i probably would have said “a bright spot in what could have been a sour timespan”

"No Brooks Laich, no win. Know Brooks Laich, know win."

by kellobellow on Nov 12, 2009 9:04 AM EST up reply actions  

And, as you’ve pointed out, it’s nice that the schedule has lined up the way it has (to an extent).

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by J.P. on Nov 12, 2009 9:19 AM EST up reply actions  

Kellobellow hit it on the head. Okay, 3-1 isn’t sour, but the reality is that the Caps have faced a lousy team twice (5-9-1), a slightly better than lousy team once (6-6-6), and a good team once (12-4-0).

The Devils game was a piss poor effort all around, so I’m not sure what difference 8 could make, but the other three games shouldn’t have even been close, even without Ovechkin.

by TFG on Nov 12, 2009 11:02 AM EST up reply actions  

Ovi is usually good for one goal and one swift kick in the shorts per game for this team.

I agree with your point – it’d be nice if they could just crush teams and save us all the heart attacks, although the Isles always play us hard and well and work their butts off every night. The Devils game is our if the guys can stay out of the box. :P All three of their goals came on the PP, they couldn’t score against us at ES to save their souls in that game.

As for Florida, I don’t expect a 100% effort on both nights of a back-to-back. I just don’t.

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by gotsparkly on Nov 12, 2009 1:47 PM EST up reply actions  

If Nyls’ roster spot really becomes open, the Caps could actually have a healthy forward scratch that they might consider using. Then again, if MP is the regular scratch, he may be better off playing in Hershey.

by apk3000 on Nov 12, 2009 9:04 AM EST up reply actions  

“if MP is the regular scratch” is the key phrase there – depending on his play and the play of others, he may or may not be.

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by kellobellow on Nov 12, 2009 9:08 AM EST up reply actions  

Scratch Laing

I’m a huge fan, but Perreault is going to make a bigger contribution than Lainger.

Void Boyd! Go with Perreault!

by jordanDC on Nov 12, 2009 9:39 AM EST up reply actions  

Since MP is a center its more like scratch Steckel or Gordon.

A man gotta have a code

by Carl Putnam on Nov 12, 2009 9:42 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, ideally we’d scratch Gordon, but I just don’t see it happening.

Void Boyd! Go with Perreault!

by jordanDC on Nov 12, 2009 9:53 AM EST up reply actions  

Why not scratch Laing and move Gordon to the wing? He’s played there in the past and I think he has more value than Laing.

by David Getz on Nov 12, 2009 9:54 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Okay, yeah. That makes sense. Morning haze..

Void Boyd! Go with Perreault!

by jordanDC on Nov 12, 2009 9:57 AM EST up reply actions  

I wouldn’t much of a problem with that. Certainly Gordo is more valuable as he can take draws. However, if he’s not 100% I don’t want him back in lineup. I’d rather have Laing than a penalty taking machine.

A man gotta have a code

by Carl Putnam on Nov 12, 2009 10:17 AM EST up reply actions  

That could certainly work. a checking line of Gordo, Stecks, Bradley would certainly be interesting.

by bigity b on Nov 12, 2009 11:01 AM EST up reply actions  

and with MP’s recent play vs. Stecks, gotta believe the healthy scratch will be Stecks. Gordon will be given a fair shot to return after his injury, and will cover up Stecks’ responsibilities (PK, defensive FO, etc). Hopefully then Stecks will return like Pothier did after his benching.

by bigity b on Nov 12, 2009 11:00 AM EST up reply actions  

Unfortunately, I have to agree that Stecks would be the C to scratch at the moment. Maybe we’re expecting too much from him or something, I dunno, but he’s not been great.

Void Boyd! Go with Perreault!

by jordanDC on Nov 12, 2009 11:12 AM EST up reply actions  

Ugh..

As soon as I post this, I read on twitter that his grandma just passed away.

Status for the weekend is unclear according to TEBTWEETER

Void Boyd! Go with Perreault!

by jordanDC on Nov 12, 2009 11:13 AM EST up reply actions  

Condolences, David. :(

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by EmilyB on Nov 12, 2009 11:15 AM EST up reply actions  

Boudreau says he will play tomorrow. That being said, condolences.

by TFG on Nov 12, 2009 11:17 AM EST up reply actions  

Tarik and Corey are both saying it’s unclear/not definite he will play.

Void Boyd! Go with Perreault!

by jordanDC on Nov 12, 2009 11:29 AM EST up reply actions  

Oops, you’re right. Misread didn’t as did ;|

by TFG on Nov 12, 2009 11:46 AM EST up reply actions  

Drats. YNWA Stecks.

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by Bald Pollack on Nov 12, 2009 11:20 AM EST up reply actions  

I second the “ugh.” I hope he takes some time to be at peace with this and when he’s ready to return, we’ll have open arms for him. condolences to Stecks.

by bigity b on Nov 12, 2009 11:54 AM EST up reply actions  

condolences, Stecks, and for the whole Steckel family.

by RedBirdie on Nov 12, 2009 12:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Augh. Condolences to David and his family. Wonder if that explains anything.

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by gotsparkly on Nov 12, 2009 1:48 PM EST up reply actions  

unfortunately it did for Ovie last year.

by bigity b on Nov 12, 2009 2:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Goof on it all you want, but Alex Ovechkin making a cameo on TMZ says something mighty impressive about his star power.

Interesting. I was watching “Around the Horn” the other day while at the gym and one topic was whether the league should make the Caps be more open about Ovie’s injury and when he’d be back playing. The arguments were dumb but I was struck by a comment by Jay Mariotti who said they should say when he’s going to play because “Ovechkin is the most exciting player in all of professional sports and people want to buy tickets to see him”. Kind of blew me away that a guy like Mariotti puts Ovie at the top of the list.

by b.orr4 on Nov 12, 2009 9:23 AM EST reply actions  

That surprises me too. Mariotti is the worst of that bunch. He’s a pompous blow-hard.

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by Laich It Or Lump It on Nov 12, 2009 9:25 AM EST up reply actions  

"Ovechkin is the most exciting player in all of professional sports and people want to buy tickets to see him".

Sounds like an argument for the team being coy, if you ask me.

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by J.P. on Nov 12, 2009 9:33 AM EST up reply actions  

“I bought tickets to see Ovie, and stayed for the Perreault!”

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by EmilyB on Nov 12, 2009 10:30 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Exactly. I imagine the the team went absolutely nuts when he suggested he’d be out for a month.

by TFG on Nov 12, 2009 10:44 AM EST up reply actions  

So, is it safe to assume that Alex Semin reads japersrink?

by aaw6848 on Nov 12, 2009 9:24 AM EST reply actions  

He probably reads Jaspers’.

by TFG on Nov 12, 2009 10:45 AM EST up reply actions  

Nyet. Semin reads JAPEЯS’ ЯIИK.

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by J.P. on Nov 12, 2009 10:51 AM EST up reply actions   3 recs

Ah, makes sense.

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One guy just drove his semi as a float. I guess semis are cool.

by zephyr on Nov 12, 2009 10:53 AM EST up reply actions  

Actually, Sasha spends some time at Odnoklassniki.ru, the Russian version of Classmates.com. Maybe his friends there read the Яink.

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by EmilyB on Nov 12, 2009 11:13 AM EST up reply actions  

I had Bradley winning it on the SO. Crap.

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by hotdog88gt on Nov 12, 2009 9:51 AM EST reply actions  

haha yeah, i had 3 different people text me that, right after i jokingly said it to the guy next to me. oh, brads.

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by kellobellow on Nov 12, 2009 11:01 AM EST up reply actions  

Heh. Like I said above, my whole section breathed a sigh of relief when Brads jumped the boards.

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by gotsparkly on Nov 12, 2009 1:50 PM EST up reply actions  

No Mention of Nylander in KHL's Daily Player Movement Report for 11/12

At the end of each day the KHL publishes a player movement report with all moves, changes, demotions, waivers, etc. for the league for that day. In today’s report which was just recently published (it is already the end of the day there in Moscow), there is no mention of Nylander for any league.
FWIW.

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by tuvanhillbilly on Nov 12, 2009 10:17 AM EST reply actions  

Minsk’s GM has publicly denied signing him (but still claims interest) – no link, but (sorry) it’s on twitter somewhere.

by TFG on Nov 12, 2009 10:46 AM EST up reply actions  

speaking of speedy little Gangsta Greenie, in the 2nd period in the game last night, I swear he skated about 230 feet with the puck, all the way down the the length of the rink, around the back of the Islanders’ net, and out to the circles. And it was sublime. No one on the ice could keep up with him.

by RedBirdie on Nov 12, 2009 10:29 AM EST reply actions  

Yeah he did just about that. It was sort of impressive but in the same time I was thinking, well that guy looked like he was open, so did that guy…

One guy just drove his semi as a float. I guess semis are cool.

by zephyr on Nov 12, 2009 10:45 AM EST up reply actions  

He passed to Semin for the goal, no? Can’t get much better than that.

by TFG on Nov 12, 2009 10:47 AM EST up reply actions  

That was a different time.

One guy just drove his semi as a float. I guess semis are cool.

by zephyr on Nov 12, 2009 10:51 AM EST up reply actions  

Two thoughts. First, pretty impressive that he basically can skate the length of the ice at will (when Pronger isn’t out there). Two, he probably (hopefully) has learned that when he is streaking into the offensive zone corner he better not force a pass to the middle of the ice or it’s an odd man rush against. Even if a guy looks open I’m cool with Green holding that puck unless he’s positive he can get the puck to the guy. It’s great that he can skate the puck like that but he is taking himself out of defensive position and it seems that at certain moments holding the puck might be the defensively safe move.

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by Rob Parker on Nov 12, 2009 2:49 PM EST up reply actions  

It’s great but if you’re going to do that just to skate behind the net and leave the puck there you may as well just dump it in. That’s all…

One guy just drove his semi as a float. I guess semis are cool.

by zephyr on Nov 12, 2009 2:54 PM EST up reply actions  

In hindsight that makes sense, but do we really want to turn Mike Green into a “dump it in” defenseman? What sets him apart is his ability to create with the puck. He takes risks for sure and you never know if any of his rushes will pan out but to ask him to dump it in is totally changing his game. You can’t know if he’ll be able to create a good shot until after the rush so it’s sorta something you have to live with. If him holding the puck longer is his way of minimizing the risk I’m OK with it.

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by Rob Parker on Nov 12, 2009 2:59 PM EST up reply actions  

He’s got wheels to get back and cover for mistakes more often than most guys, too. It’s his game and it’s why he’s successful.

Void Boyd! Go with Perreault!

by jordanDC on Nov 12, 2009 3:07 PM EST up reply actions  

I got to watch the game with Ovi last night.

One guy just drove his semi as a float. I guess semis are cool.

by zephyr on Nov 12, 2009 10:47 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

Did any dip spit fall on you from there?

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by Laich It Or Lump It on Nov 12, 2009 10:49 AM EST up reply actions  

haha yea. i was about to say it looks like you were in the splash zone.

by aaw6848 on Nov 12, 2009 10:50 AM EST up reply actions  

Hehe. I didn’t see him dipping. I was in row H though in the same section so pretty far away unless he started trying to spit loogies.

One guy just drove his semi as a float. I guess semis are cool.

by zephyr on Nov 12, 2009 10:52 AM EST up reply actions  

Roughly what point in the game was that?

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by EmilyB on Nov 12, 2009 11:16 AM EST up reply actions  

He was there up until the end of the 3rd. This pic was taken in the first 5 mins of the game.

One guy just drove his semi as a float. I guess semis are cool.

by zephyr on Nov 12, 2009 11:20 AM EST up reply actions  

How many goals did you miss while snapping it?

Void Boyd! Go with Perreault!

by jordanDC on Nov 12, 2009 11:29 AM EST up reply actions  

Haha…you def. couldn’t blink in that 1st period. I waited to a whistle so nothing was missed.

One guy just drove his semi as a float. I guess semis are cool.

by zephyr on Nov 12, 2009 11:31 AM EST up reply actions  

Moulson is a good player. Imagine if the Kings had re-signed him (and gave him ice time) in addition to picking up the guys they picked up. Dayum.

Void Boyd! Go with Perreault!

by jordanDC on Nov 12, 2009 12:07 PM EST up reply actions  

I don’t see how Helm isn’t one of the 20 fastest skaters in the league. I obviously don’t know every skater, I just don’t see how there can be 20 people faster than him.

by Steckel Me Elmo on Nov 12, 2009 10:54 AM EST reply actions  

Helm’s kinda been under the radar. But, yes, freakishly fast.

Kenny Holland, well give you Nylander and an autographed picture of Obama if you send us Helm! Ok?

by RedBirdie on Nov 12, 2009 11:05 AM EST up reply actions  

Maybe he ate the VC nachos.

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by gotsparkly on Nov 12, 2009 1:51 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I can’t help myself. I’ve seen all those Ovi goals a hundred times, and yet I still have to watch.

My favorite part of “the goal” is Keith Carny’s reaction when he watches it slide on by… he nearly hurts himself in contorting disgust and amazement… it’s hilarious.

Semin was the second gunman on the grassy knoll, clearly he must be traded.

by Chris meet Alex on Nov 12, 2009 12:48 PM EST reply actions  

Don’t know if its relevant but the Nylander gear at the Caps store is over 50% off right now…

http://shop.nhl.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2795669&cp=3176756&clickid=body_bestsell_img

I feel the same away about avatars as Ovechkin does about speed limits.

by Ovechkin on Nov 12, 2009 12:59 PM EST reply actions  

Do they stock the Grand Rapids Griffins jerseys? That was a nice looking sweater.

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by EmilyB on Nov 12, 2009 1:03 PM EST up reply actions  

that would be a classic. first person i see wearing a nylander griffins jersey at VC gets a free beer!

by Natty Bumppo on Nov 12, 2009 5:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Sasha Pokulok is only 200 votes out of the lead in the bobblehead contest!
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by thehoagster07 on Nov 12, 2009 1:02 PM EST reply actions  

From Tarik:

The Caps are in a holding pattern with regard to Michael Nylander and whether he’ll accept a loan to Russia. Things are moving in that direction, but he’s still considering his options, I’m told. Knowing how meticulous Nylander is, this does not come as a surprise.

I don’t get it. Hasn’t he had two months to consider his options?

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/capitalsinsider/ovechkins-getting-closer.html#more

by gfcaps fan on Nov 12, 2009 1:18 PM EST reply actions  

AAAAAAAAARRRRRGGGGGHHHHHHHHH

Russian Machine very rarely breaks.

by macvechkin on Nov 12, 2009 1:23 PM EST up reply actions  

two months is an under statement, thought it was much longer than that. Weren’t there reports he had phone calls with Jagr throuhgout the summer? Also, didn’t his family move back to Sweden in the beg. of the summer and are still there?…

Either way, I’m starting to think of this as Nylander saying “no one tells me what to do” / insignificant power struggle. i.e. He’ll leave when he’s reay to leave and doesn’t want to be pushed by the organization. Almost like saying, “you can’t fire me, I quit.” The narative also fits in with his issue with BB “you can’t change my game no matter your system. I play my way.” At least we’re still inching towards a resolution.

by bigity b on Nov 12, 2009 1:28 PM EST up reply actions  

I don’t agree. Why would he agree to be waived if he was doing a you can’t fire me, I quit type of deal? He’s already put himself at the mercy or the organization. He isn’t a little kid trying to kick and scream out the door.

One guy just drove his semi as a float. I guess semis are cool.

by zephyr on Nov 12, 2009 1:31 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m getting the vibe it’s not that it won’t happen, but that there might now be more than one team in play. Just get it done already!

We need the roster spot, or Perreault’s on his way back to Hershey, it sounds like.

by gfcaps fan on Nov 12, 2009 1:40 PM EST up reply actions  

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

Void Boyd! Go with Perreault!

by jordanDC on Nov 12, 2009 1:44 PM EST up reply actions  

MP to Hershey? EFFFFFF THAT SHIT.

Russian Machine very rarely breaks.

by macvechkin on Nov 12, 2009 2:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Maybe to pick up the rest of his clothes so he can move into his apartment in DC, amirite?

Void Boyd! Go with Perreault!

by jordanDC on Nov 12, 2009 2:29 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

are you suggesting more than 1 KHL team or do you think some Sweden teams are calling? Either way what’s the process and where do the Caps fit in? i.e. – is it the player/agent chooses the team, then that team works out a payment agreement with the Caps OR is it the foreign team works out an agreement with the Caps and then the player/agent are approached? I only ask because i’m guessing the answer to that question will tell us what the holdup is. (I agree with you gfcaps fan)

by bigity b on Nov 12, 2009 2:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Was perusing the Puck Daddy chat and the thought was multiple KHL teams. At this point, I probably shouldn’t believe anything anymore.

by gfcaps fan on Nov 12, 2009 2:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Was perusing the Puck Daddy chat and the thought was multiple KHL teams. At this point, I probably shouldn’t believe anything anymore.

by gfcaps fan on Nov 12, 2009 2:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Also, didn’t his family move back to Sweden in the beg. of the summer and are still there?…

Yup, still there.

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by Scott in Shaw on Nov 12, 2009 5:18 PM EST up reply actions  

hahahahahaha… nice.

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by kellobellow on Nov 12, 2009 1:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Congrats on the jersey foul find, yoshietree! Although I sort of resent this statement:

Meanwhile in the capital of both the United States and hockey sweater fouls,

But maybe it’s true. I do see a fair number of jersey fouls at Caps games, and I’ve never been to a non-Caps NHL game. Maybe VC’s jersey foul frequency is unique in the league.

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by Jake Shapiro on Nov 12, 2009 2:24 PM EST reply actions  

Bourque with an assist tonight. =)

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by winterion on Nov 12, 2009 9:21 PM EST reply actions  

Also, Pens down 3-1 – and Bourque with a team-best +1.. couldn’t ask with a finer result thus far!

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by winterion on Nov 12, 2009 9:33 PM EST up reply actions  

That’s pretty ideal. Keep working it, CBo!

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by CapitalCentre on Nov 12, 2009 9:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Crosby just hit the post twice on the power play, then took a holding penalty and nullified the odd-man.
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by winterion on Nov 12, 2009 9:38 PM EST up reply actions  

AH-HAHA! The camera team had the boom mic pointed at Kunitz and the video was right on him as he let out a very very loud, very clear, very HBO “AHH, F***.”

I guess this thing is good luck after all.

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by winterion on Nov 12, 2009 9:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Bourque ends the game as the only Penguins player with a positive +/-. Could have easily had 1g2a, too, were it not for a rough-luck bounce and Crosby shanking a perfect setup from behind the net.

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by winterion on Nov 12, 2009 10:01 PM EST up reply actions  

you should join us in the OT hockey fanshot for gloating. :)

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by boutros23 on Nov 12, 2009 10:16 PM EST up reply actions  

So let’s see: Pens and Caps, both big teams with injury woes. Pens have scored 1 goal in the last three games. Caps have scored 16 goals in the last three games.

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by Jake Shapiro on Nov 12, 2009 10:27 PM EST up reply actions  

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