Michael Nylander "Heading to Russia"
by J.P. on Nov 10, 2009 12:16 PM EST
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Per Bob McKenzie on Twitter, "Nylander heading to Russia."
Update (12:24 PM): "Nylander makes the final call on whether he's going to Russia but it looks like he's prepared to do it. Not formalized just yet, though." - @TSNBobMcKenzie
(12:48 PM): "And since this Russian thing looked like it was going to get done a time or two before and didn't, we better wait for official confirmation." - @TSNBobMcKenzie
(1:17 PM): "[A] team official said it looks like there WON'T be an update on Michael Nylander's status today." - @cmasisak22
(1:49 PM): "Caps forward Mikael [sic] Nylander looks as though he's headed to Russia. The 37-year-old cleared waivers yesterday and, with his permission, he can now be assigned to a KHL team. That paperwork is still being finalized so the move is not yet official." - TSN
(1:50 PM): "An overseas move now seems imminent for former Washington Capital Center Michael Nylander. The 37-year old is reportedly weighing an offer from Dynamo Minsk of Russia's Kontinental Hockey League." - CSN Washington
More details to follow.
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caution, caution, caution………
do not celebrate prematurely.
by RedBirdie on Nov 10, 2009 12:18 PM EST reply actions 5 recs
Rec rec rec rec rec rec.
Did I say Rec?
Calm down, folks. Let’s see what GMGM says and wait for the official announcement. We saw what happened with the 4-5 weeksgate.
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Bob McKenzie’s got a pretty good reputation, though, and he wouldn’t screw this one up (I wouldn’t think), whereas with 4-5 Weeksgate, there was reason to believe that the quotee was joking around.
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Sorry, but I have a real stupid SB Nation / Japer’s Rink Blog technical question … What the hell does “rec” mean? I’ve seen a bunch of posters use it, but just can’t knoodle to what it might refer. Again, sorry for asking such a lame newbie question.
by renhoak on Nov 10, 2009 3:41 PM EST up reply actions 6 recs
When you click “actions” and then “rec” under someone’s post. This indicates that you agree with, or recommend, the person’s post.
You just got rec’d for an awesome avatar.
Void Boyd! Go with Perreault!
Five “recs” turn the background color of the post green so everyone in the thread can more easily identify your genius.
IS PЯACTICE ЯINK NOW
You can also “rec” a whole thread, a FanShot, or a FanPost. 10 recs for a FanShot or FanPost makes it “sticky”.
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If you rec something too much then. . .
Do you have to get it a towel???
I'm trying to work out a deal with a club in Europe
And if you don’t is it a rec-towel dysfunction?
If consequences dictate the course of action, then it doesn't matter what's right, it's only wrong if you get caught. If consequences dictate the course of action, then I should play God...
by Rob Parker on Nov 10, 2009 5:05 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Oh my GOD
That was so groan-worthy it was hilarious.
I'm trying to work out a deal with a club in Europe
My handle puts you all on notice that more bad puns are coming.
If consequences dictate the course of action, then it doesn't matter what's right, it's only wrong if you get caught. If consequences dictate the course of action, then I should play God...
My handle puts you all on notice that more bad puns are coming.
No idea what you’re talking about…
"If you're gonna die after 24, might as well jump out at 23:59, no?"
by Laich It Or Lump It on Nov 10, 2009 6:27 PM EST up reply actions
Nice.
Semin was the second gunman on the grassy knoll, clearly he must be traded.
by Chris meet Alex on Nov 10, 2009 6:31 PM EST up reply actions
Don't forget to bring a towel
"If you're gonna die after 24, might as well jump out at 23:59, no?"
by Laich It Or Lump It on Nov 10, 2009 6:35 PM EST up reply actions
It's quite apropriate
because after today’s events, I have no idea what’s going on right now.
I'm trying to work out a deal with a club in Europe
Ahhh … well thank you, Mr jordanDC, for taking the time to explain. Much appreciated. And loving your avatar as well, fiery little spark plug, wouldn’t you say? Hope he keeps it up.
That avatar deserves a full size viewing
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Nov 10, 2009 4:28 PM EST up reply actions
I know now what I must do!
I must use my gift of invention, to save poor Ren…
Let's go Caps!
by MikeL-Pivonka on Nov 10, 2009 4:50 PM EST up reply actions
Sweet, a fellow Ren and Stimpy fan! I knew there had to be some lurking around the bowels of blogdom.
Some of the finest animated comedy ever written.
Let's go Caps!
by MikeL-Pivonka on Nov 10, 2009 11:28 PM EST up reply actions
On a post, click the actions link, then you can rec’ommend that post. However, people actually posting ‘rec’ does not correspond to people assigning a rec to the post. This leads to a pet peeve for some, and a lack of green posts for those that might deserve it
Some people say “rec” when they one the poster they are recommending to know just exactly who it was that appreciated them.
Void Boyd! Go with Perreault!
I think there should be some middle ground between agreeing and rec’ing. Not everything deserves to be green like the masterpiece just below.
Russian Machine very rarely breaks.
You could always just post that you agree.
Though SOME people might get all pissy about it.
Void Boyd! Go with Perreault!
Nah, nobody here’d ever get pissy over little stuff.
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by gotsparkly on Nov 10, 2009 3:53 PM EST up reply actions 6 recs
"Let the rest be scared of us." - Sasha Semin
by Scott in Shaw on Nov 10, 2009 12:18 PM EST reply actions 39 recs
Haha — I wasn’t sure if this is what you meant by “celebrate prematurely.”
"Let the rest be scared of us." - Sasha Semin
by Scott in Shaw on Nov 10, 2009 12:34 PM EST up reply actions
it’s entirely premature, but damn, that’s an awesome Blingee. The dancing banana, the piles of gold coins, the “U Haz Cap rm now” everything.
peanut butter jelllly
peanut butter jelllly
peanut butter jelllly
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peanut butter jelly peanut butter jelly peanut butter jelly with a baseball bat!
cap rooooooooooooooooooooooooom
Nah. Yesterday actually. I had a feeling today would be the day. I’m just sorry I didn’t get hear fast enough to be the first comment, but actually the fact that the first comment was “don’t celebrate prematurely” ended up being pretty funny.
"Let the rest be scared of us." - Sasha Semin
by Scott in Shaw on Nov 10, 2009 1:31 PM EST up reply actions
37!
In a row?
"And next year it will be ours."
by Ovechwin on Nov 10, 2009 9:29 PM EST up reply actions 6 recs
Try not to rec any posts on the way to the parking lot. . .
Hey. . . Get back here!!!
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by D'ohboy on Nov 10, 2009 9:42 PM EST up reply actions 6 recs
eklund on HockeyBuzz is reporting that not only is Nylander to Russia (on Jagr’s team), but the Caps signed Foppa too – with the major/official announcement of this at either 12:30 or 1. Glad it ended so well for everybody. Now for that crease clearing dman and/or getting rid of some to call up Alzner…
WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT!?!?!?!? If this is true, I will kiss the next person that walks by me.
Void Boyd! Go with Perreault!
That 2.3% accuracy is roughly 1/3 of Jeff Schultz’s shooting percentage.
It’s that bad.
by David Getz on Nov 10, 2009 12:26 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
correction
“putting them in the prime location to sign Forsberg. More to come in less than an hour.”
Foppa apparently didn’t look great over the weekend. The Caps have piles and piles of talent in Hershey. I just think signing an aging, broken, not in NHL condition Foppa would be D-U-M-B.
but I’m not a GM, I just play one online.
by RedBirdie on Nov 10, 2009 12:26 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Rec-inator. Could someone please explain to me why we need Foppa?
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Because he’s still one of the most talented players around and can bring some sorely needed depth at C and experience to our forwards ranks. We don’t need him, and we shouldn’t sign him now, but if he’s healthy at the deadline and GMGM can’t find a better move I don’t think it’s a per se mistake to sign him. Right now is premature though.
If consequences dictate the course of action, then it doesn't matter what's right, it's only wrong if you get caught. If consequences dictate the course of action, then I should play God...
My point. I don’t deny talent or fame or any of that. What I do deny is that it’s a good idea to rush out like an 8 year old who just got his allowance and spend every single dime. I agree – might not be a bad idea later but maybe building up a cushion for injury call ups isn’t such a horrid idea.
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by gotsparkly on Nov 10, 2009 1:06 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
I think he’d command the majority of it. Certainly enough that injury call-ups would still be a consideration and it could leave us with a hangup at the deadline. Why spend on something we don’t necessarily need?
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I don’t think anyone’s paying Foppa more than $2.5m (pro-rated) this season.
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Still close to half. Add Alzner and you get 4.175. 4.875 goes pretty fast, yes?
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No doubt (and I don’t think Foppa even makes that mch). But that would also be offset by some salary coming off the roster – they don’t add those two without some subtraction.
Not saying I want Foppa, but getting productive players into the lineup sooner rather than later may be a better plan than hoping something’s there at the deadline.
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I’m more concerned with spending of bunch of cash right now and then rest of the season unfolds in a way that can’t be predicted and Caps are short at a position and/or for bodies due to injuries. I’m not saying don’t make any deal. I’m saying be prudent and only go for a deal that is a true upgrade.
Also, I’m not sure Caps owners and their bankers are going to be keen on dropping more cash for more players. I beleived Ted made some allusions to this in his blog not long ago.
I’m all for a moving a depth D-man and bringing up Alzner or Carlson. Beyond that I think extreme caution should be used for now.
A man gotta have a code
I don’t disagree. Just saying it’s plenty feasible.
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Understood. My response was more towards the whole thread than just yours in particular. I should have clarified.
A man gotta have a code
That’s still very different from running out and spending it all right away.
Plus, if Alzner comes up, Nyls goes, Foppa comes, Laing’s waived, Erskine’s waived…you still have plenty left over to work with.
Right – they can’t add two players without more than $1m in salary coming off the roster (assuming two players come off).
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Doubt he can get out of his KHL contract at this point.
If consequences dictate the course of action, then it doesn't matter what's right, it's only wrong if you get caught. If consequences dictate the course of action, then I should play God...
Not only can’t he, but since he’s played games in another pro league, he’s ineligible for the NHL this season (this is why Foppa hasn’t suited up in the SEL).
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He’s not ineligible (yet at least). At this point he’d just have to pass through waivers first. Perhaps a distinction without a difference given what could potentially happen in such a situation but nonetheless…
Right. Brain fart – I meant ineligible w/o passing through waivers. Thanks for catching it.
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Been there, done that, don’t want the sequel.
"I'm just doing karate and trying to get females pregnant."
by Bald Pollack on Nov 10, 2009 1:39 PM EST up reply actions
i think we have enough restraining penalties as it is
by ns on Nov 10, 2009 1:43 PM EST up reply actions
Need to fill secret quota for Swedish Centers in the organiation
by Direction 87 on Nov 10, 2009 1:37 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Let me be the first to say that I am 100% against the signing of Foppa. Get rid of one aging Swede for one that is not only old, but injury prone? Thanks, but no thanks.
I believe that makes you the 2nd actually. :-)
A man gotta have a code
by Carl Putnam on Nov 10, 2009 12:48 PM EST up reply actions
That discussion has been had. You’ve got plenty of company.
If consequences dictate the course of action, then it doesn't matter what's right, it's only wrong if you get caught. If consequences dictate the course of action, then I should play God...
Oy. If Eklund is saying that Nylander is going to Russia, it means he hasn’t moved. That piece of [Lemieux] wouldn’t know his [Avery] from a hole in the ground.
Let's go Caps!
by MikeL-Pivonka on Nov 10, 2009 12:42 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Oy. If Eklund is saying that Nylander is going to Russia, it means he hasn’t moved.
Not necessarily. It could also just mean that someone else broke the story first.
True enough, but until the release comes from the Caps (or the KHL), I’m less inclined to believe it if it comes from Eklund. The guy’s worthless as a source for any information. If he had said nothing, then the story from MacKenzie would be more valid. That he repeats what MacKenzie is saying brings down MacKenzie.
As for Forsberg… that I’ll believe when he walks into the Caps dressing room and pulls on a jersey.
Let's go Caps!
by MikeL-Pivonka on Nov 10, 2009 12:49 PM EST up reply actions
That he repeats what MacKenzie is saying brings down MacKenzie.
Disagree. McKenzie reports what he reports, he has no control over who repeats it or in what forum.
I know… but it’s still not confirmed by anyone official yet….
Let's go Caps!
by MikeL-Pivonka on Nov 10, 2009 12:51 PM EST up reply actions
No, you are forgetting that Eklund’s other strategy is simply regurgitating information gained from other reporters.
Russian Machine very rarely breaks.
Still, there’s nothing official yet, and Eklund’s track record speaks for itself…
Let's go Caps!
by MikeL-Pivonka on Nov 10, 2009 12:52 PM EST up reply actions
So does Bob McKenzie’s.
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by J.P. on Nov 10, 2009 12:52 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Bob McKenzie
Bob (left) seen here with his brother Doug, reacting to Eklund’s lates gibberish…
Let's go Caps!
by MikeL-Pivonka on Nov 10, 2009 3:14 PM EST up reply actions
Even Edith Prickley wouldn’t be seen with him…
Let's go Caps!
by MikeL-Pivonka on Nov 10, 2009 11:29 PM EST up reply actions
http://twitter.com/TSNBobMcKenzie/status/5593908244
Nylander makes the final call on whether he’s going to Russia but it looks like he’s prepared to do it. Not formalized just yet, though.
by PaintDrinkingPete on Nov 10, 2009 12:24 PM EST up reply actions
Good luck to Nylander in Russia.
And good luck to GMGM as he makes roster decisions that have potential Cup implications.
Honestly, if I’m GMGM, I bury that cap space under a rock for a couple of months and wait to see what the team does.
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by gotsparkly on Nov 10, 2009 12:42 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Wait a sec???
Could we actually build up….a cushion??
Russian Machine very rarely breaks.
by macvechkin on Nov 10, 2009 12:45 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I know, imagine that.
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In Retrospect
1. Watch this video
2. Read the first couple of comments
3. Laugh
4. Cry
5. Destroy this video forever
So to summarize what McKenzie said:
Headline tease: Nylander already gone
Story beneath the head: Nylander not gone yet
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Nov 10, 2009 12:28 PM EST reply actions
Right. From “He’s at IAD awaiting pre-board” to “What you all pretty much knew already.”
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Along the lines of jordan's posts the other day:
"If you're gonna die after 24, might as well jump out at 23:59, no?"
by Laich It Or Lump It on Nov 10, 2009 12:33 PM EST reply actions
Nice use of title
If consequences dictate the course of action, then it doesn't matter what's right, it's only wrong if you get caught. If consequences dictate the course of action, then I should play God...
Thanks, I took your advice. I actually didn’t know you could collapse a comment like that or else I would have used titles for pictures all along.
"If you're gonna die after 24, might as well jump out at 23:59, no?"
by Laich It Or Lump It on Nov 10, 2009 1:10 PM EST up reply actions
Just bringing my institutional experience.
If consequences dictate the course of action, then it doesn't matter what's right, it's only wrong if you get caught. If consequences dictate the course of action, then I should play God...
So BP has avatar compliance and you have comment title compliance?
"If you're gonna die after 24, might as well jump out at 23:59, no?"
by Laich It Or Lump It on Nov 10, 2009 1:15 PM EST up reply actions
Nah, I’m not nearly as much out for title compliance as we’ve got going with avatar compliance. It’s just a helpful tip in large threads I guess.
If consequences dictate the course of action, then it doesn't matter what's right, it's only wrong if you get caught. If consequences dictate the course of action, then I should play God...
Nope.
"I'm just doing karate and trying to get females pregnant."
by Bald Pollack on Nov 10, 2009 1:30 PM EST up reply actions
I was thinking in terms of help from outside the organization. I could see Alzner coming to DC and one of the depth defensemen being moved or waived.
I honestly think that GMGM was just waiting for this whole Nyls thing to get done before he got into the rest. I could definitely see one of our current blueliners getting traded (Pothier, Mo or Juice are most likely because of their contracts) to make room for Karl.
Isles lost Martinek for the year… they could use a veteran D right about now.
If consequences dictate the course of action, then it doesn't matter what's right, it's only wrong if you get caught. If consequences dictate the course of action, then I should play God...
Well they will be here tomorrow. Maybe Garth Snow makes the trip and he and GMGM have set up a meeting.
Indeed. I think this is what GMGM was waiting for: injuries to other teams’ D corps making our depth of veteran/reliable D more attractive so he can trade on better terms. Unfortunately their injuries came at the same time as ours so we may want to hold out and use our depth for a few.
If consequences dictate the course of action, then it doesn't matter what's right, it's only wrong if you get caught. If consequences dictate the course of action, then I should play God...
I know people think we need to keep Poti for the vet leadership, but i wouldn’t mind seeing him be traded.
I don’t think we really need anyone right now. We have guys that can give us sparks in HER. All i can think of is a pick, but ii’m not so sure the Isles would want to give up picks.
And they definitely don’t want Poti back.
If consequences dictate the course of action, then it doesn't matter what's right, it's only wrong if you get caught. If consequences dictate the course of action, then I should play God...
Is he really such a persona non grata with the Isles? He only played there one year and had a very solid season for them (per his starting strong and declining steadily routine).
Of all our iniquities ignorance may be the worst
by Killer_Carlson on Nov 11, 2009 2:30 AM EST up reply actions
Is he really such a persona non grata with the Isles?
Yes.
If consequences dictate the course of action, then it doesn't matter what's right, it's only wrong if you get caught. If consequences dictate the course of action, then I should play God...
Where is this coming from? Fans or management? There is only one NY based team that I’ve heard of having a giant hate on for Poti.
Of all our iniquities ignorance may be the worst
by Killer_Carlson on Nov 11, 2009 3:00 AM EST up reply actions
Rangers fans hate him, but Poti has a bit of a reputation for burning bridges everywhere.
However, in DC, I haven’t heard anything but positives about him, as far as the type of teammate he is. And he is the third “A” so there is some level of respect for the quiet leadership he provides.
If you’ve only heard positive stuff about him in DC I guess I have to be louder.
If consequences dictate the course of action, then it doesn't matter what's right, it's only wrong if you get caught. If consequences dictate the course of action, then I should play God...
I hear loud and clear the criticism of his play. But as far as the type of person he is in the locker room? I haven’t heard the grumbling.
I think most of the grumbling from both teams in NY is regarding his on-ice mistakes…not his off-ice attitude.
Yeah this is correct. NY fans don’t really give a shit what you do off the ice/field. They were more pissed about how Giambi and Arod played than anything relating to steroids.
If consequences dictate the course of action, then it doesn't matter what's right, it's only wrong if you get caught. If consequences dictate the course of action, then I should play God...
The Isles fans have a hate on for him too. And honestly, would NYI be much worse off if the fans were running the team?
If consequences dictate the course of action, then it doesn't matter what's right, it's only wrong if you get caught. If consequences dictate the course of action, then I should play God...
9 D FTW
If consequences dictate the course of action, then it doesn't matter what's right, it's only wrong if you get caught. If consequences dictate the course of action, then I should play God...
NOTHING. Keep it in case of injuries – it’s nice to have some breathing room for once, let’s not go spending it just yet.
by Becca H on Nov 10, 2009 12:37 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Bring Karl Alzner to Washington, stat.
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by J.P. on Nov 10, 2009 12:37 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
BringKarl Alzner John CarlsonKarl Alzner to Washington, stat.
Re-fixed.
"If you're gonna die after 24, might as well jump out at 23:59, no?"
by Laich It Or Lump It on Nov 10, 2009 12:41 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
:: waving ::
Hi Becca! Welcome back aboard!!!
Note to JP: Needs more Becca content, and soon.
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Send your note to Becca, not me – she writes what and when she wants to.
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I will not be dictated to, dammit! …just kidding. Stuff’s in the works, I promise :)
(And check’s in the mail, YNC.)
Yes, but no. Alex must continue to concentrate on his rehab. Later is the time on Schprockets when we dance.
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by EmilyB on Nov 10, 2009 1:00 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Did someone mentin Schprockets?
Russian Machine very rarely breaks.
by macvechkin on Nov 10, 2009 1:09 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
I was going to change my name to Becca_H and then hiss at you that I’ve been posting on here for over a year now…
Russian Machine very rarely breaks.
by macvechkin on Nov 10, 2009 12:46 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I couldn’t agree more, but I’m at a loss as to what the team will do (aside from sending Sloan down)….or will they continue carrying 8 dmen?
Waive Pothier? Doesn’t seem like a great trade market for defensemen, considering the glut of bottom pair guys available in TB, Toronto, etc.
I’m thinking Erskine would be the first waiver candidate.
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Why waive him now? If the team wanted to waive Pothier and bring up Alzner, they could have done that without moving Nyls.
Just trying to think of which D has to go. Erskine makes a lot of sense, but it leaves the blue line rather, um, physically averse.
Sloan might be another candidate to go. I love the guy, but we already have numerous forwards competing for 4th line time, and 89 didn’t look too great along the blueline the other night.
Either way, I expect to see Alzner here immediately.
Uh. Sloan saved our butts Friday night when Green and Schultz went down. One rough night when the guy is playing hurt is a bit much.
How about we just hold on to the cap space for a bit and build a cushion so that we have some wiggle room at the deadline?
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anyone know exactly how much of a cap hit Alzner would be and whether his being in Washington would rule out a deadline pickup?
Yes – $1.675 annually, and no, not necessarily.
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Uh. Sloan saved our butts Friday night when Green and Schultz went down. One rough night when the guy is playing hurt is a bit much.
There’s value in his versatility, but that doesn’t change that his talent is marginal at the NHL level.
How about we just hold on to the cap space for a bit and build a cushion so that we have some wiggle room at the deadline?
Saving space for the deadline only does any good if there’s a move to be made, whereas recalling Alzner is move that you know can be made and will probably make the team better. Get him up, get him his games and you’ll either have a better idea of what needs to be done at the deadline, a better defense corps, or both. That’s a pretty good return on the difference in salary between the two (~535k for the rest of the season).
And Alzner doesn’t even come close to fully off-setting the cap gains we make by losing Nyls so both are still possible.
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I disagree with you about Sloan’s talent level.
As for Alzner, I didn’t see anything in training camp and I have not seen anything in the three Hershey games I’ve been to this year to make me think that Alzner > Sloan. I’m not convinced that this is a necessary move.
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Opinion: Sloan > Alzner
Fact: Alzner is a part of this team’s future in a way that Sloan is not.
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by J.P. on Nov 10, 2009 1:23 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
FactJP’s Opinion: Alzner is a part of this team’s future in a way that Sloan is not.
Fixed that for you.
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I’d agree that Alzner is a part of the future while Sloan is more of a place-holder. As much as I like him, I don’t see Sloaner sticking around after this year – if he’s here that long.
Except that he signed a two-year deal. Do you see him then as trade-bait?
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No, it’s a fact. Whether as a player or a piece in a trade, Alzner’s pedigree makes him an integral part in this team’s future in a way that Sloan is not.
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The issue isn’t whether Alzner’s better than Sloan. The issue’s whether Alzner in April/May/June will be better than any of the defensemen on the Capitals current roster if he gets NHL experience in the meantime.
Again, not convinced of that.
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But it’d be silly to rule it out. Alzner’s ceiling is a lot higher than Sloan’s and it benefits the team to figure out who their best options are going to be when the games count the most.
But how much playing time would he realistically get? I don’t think they’re going to send Sloan down – they’re likely to lose him to waivers if they do.
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Sloan is a 28-year old defenseman who has kicked around in the minors for eight or so years until now. Alzner is a gifted 21-year old who has top-four potential. I’d argue that keeping him down in Hershey is actually bad for his development, and it’s not like you lose a whole lot replace a Tyler Sloan with a potential stalwart prospect who might make a few mistakes at first.
by Kolzilla on Nov 10, 2009 1:28 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
But then what do we do about our secondary scoring we lose?
A man gotta have a code
by Carl Putnam on Nov 10, 2009 1:28 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Ha! Nice. If someone had said at the beginning of the year that Sloan would have more goals than Steckel by now, who would have bought it?
Just put a real forward with MP.
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You may be kidding, but that’s a very interesting idea. Semin could be hurt, but I wonder if a speedy center is what Semin needs to overcome his lethargy.
by DrinkingPartner on Nov 10, 2009 2:21 PM EST up reply actions
Not kidding. Semin’s frailty might explain his recent non-production, but not the absurd penalty fest. If you keep Flash on line 1 and go with the Laich-BMo-Knuble combo on line 2 then Semin is left out. Maybe the long-time-coming message to Semin and at the same time a reward for MP?
Russian Machine very rarely breaks.
I don’t think it necessarily has to be a message to Semin (after all, he had a level 2nd game against FLA), it could just be pairing two exceptionally dangerous forwards together, almost like he and AO. Backs needs AO to be his absolute best, IMO, not Semin.
by DrinkingPartner on Nov 10, 2009 2:41 PM EST up reply actions
this continuous rag on semin is getting extremely tedious. averaging a point a game after having missed two games and being injured for the past three. 3rd line, indeed!
by mechanicsville on Nov 10, 2009 9:50 PM EST up reply actions
Yes, the “hate” on Semin has gottn past the point of ridiculousness.
Guess who else is in a slump - a 5 game scoring drought and who is expected to carry the team in the absence of his high scoring teammate -- Sid Crosby.
And People say I'm nuts...
…for thinking Malkin is better than Crosby. Crosby goes down, Malkin picks up the slack and keeps the team going. Malkin goes down, and the Pens go into a tailspin…
Let's go Caps!
by MikeL-Pivonka on Nov 11, 2009 8:54 AM EST up reply actions
Look at all the other injuries in the lineup. Also, with Malkin and Crosby both active, the Pens were in 10th in February of last year. Who was out? Sergei Gonchar. Who’s out now? Sergei Gonchar.
by Knee high to a duck on Nov 11, 2009 10:02 AM EST up reply actions
Hard to watch the Caps/Pens series last year and not conclude that Crosby is the better player.
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Really? That DET deployed all their best (healthy) defensive players to cover Crosby didn’t send you a message?
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Crosby was the better player agains the Caps and is a great player. Malkin though seems to be the better player now. Crosby did win the MVP 3 years ago, but since then Malkin has been nominated for the MVP and Crosby hasn’t (admittedly, one year, Crosby missed a lot of games).
The most telling thing to me though is that Malkin has been nominated for the Pearson award (voted on by the players) these past 2 seasons and Crosby hasn’t. Apparently the players think Malkin is the better player (and that Ovie is better than both of them).
Let's go Caps!
by MikeL-Pivonka on Nov 11, 2009 2:26 PM EST up reply actions
Two points to this: Crosby does not have a history of being a streaky player, and take away scoring and Crosby brings way more to the table than Semin.
Of all our iniquities ignorance may be the worst
by Killer_Carlson on Nov 11, 2009 12:55 PM EST up reply actions
Crosby is certainly less streaky, and is better on the dot than Malkin, but if I had to pick between one or the other to start my team, I’d take Malkin. I’d take Ovie over either of them (and Iginla, if I can have him at age 22…)
Let's go Caps!
by MikeL-Pivonka on Nov 11, 2009 2:27 PM EST up reply actions
Well my post didn’t say a thing about Malkin, but since you brought him up I disagree. Malkin may provide more overall offense, but I’d take Crosby for his consistency and better all around game. The best centers are great at more than just scoring.
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by Killer_Carlson on Nov 11, 2009 3:36 PM EST up reply actions
Okay, I just looked up his stats, and his stats in Hershey are better than my eyes indicated. When I watched him in Hershey he was having some rough nights, and it matched what I saw in training camp. I guess I could see it, but I still think that blindly rushing off and making plans for money that hasn’t materialized yet is premature.
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New Rule
When watching Karl Alzner, treat your eyes like you do when they are watching Jeff Schultz. Very skeptically.
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And for a trip in the way back machine…
"I'm just doing karate and trying to get females pregnant."
by Bald Pollack on Nov 10, 2009 1:47 PM EST up reply actions
In DMG’s recent defensive prospect post, one of the Hershey regulars said the exact same thing. The things that Schultz gets knocked for are some of the same issues with Alzner.
"If you're gonna die after 24, might as well jump out at 23:59, no?"
by Laich It Or Lump It on Nov 10, 2009 1:47 PM EST up reply actions
I’m just not convinced he’s ready yet. I’d like him to get a full year in Hershey, stay healthy, and let’s see how it goes. We have eleventy billion d-men walking around up here – why pull an Eminger and risk his development by rushing him into the NHL?
You’re not convinced Alzner is ready but want Carlson here?
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Nah, I was (mostly) kidding about that – but for what it’s worth, I was more impressed w/ Carlson than I was Alzner during preseason. Maybe I’m at the point where I expect Alzner to stand out more, I don’t know.
I’d like to see them both get some more time in Hershey before pushing them up, though.
I thought that was Alzner’s game though… To fly under the radar. He was never going to be a points guy, but instead a +/- guy. Granted, I haven’t see Carlson play too much, but it seems he plays a more aggressive style looking to jump into the play, and the Caps already have someone like that in Mike Green. Alzner was here last year and is a little older, therefore I think it will/should be him before Carlson.
by JimCareyFanClub on Nov 10, 2009 1:28 PM EST up reply actions
You don’t win CHL Defenseman of the Year and WHL Player of the Year by “flying under the radar.” He may not put up gaudy offensive stats, but they guy totally controlled games down in the WHL. I have yet to see him do that with any consistency, either in the NHL or the AHL.
I’m pretty clearly on the “Age Ain’t Nothin’ But a Number” bandwagon, and I think Carlson has looked more ready than Alzner when I’ve seen them both play at the same time/level.
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Waive Poti and bring up Alzner? Just wishful thinking… so probably nothing for now.
by JimCareyFanClub on Nov 10, 2009 12:38 PM EST up reply actions
I think Poti is hardly the 2nd best D-man on the team. He was once an offensive-minded defenseman that the Caps need to play more defensively. I wasn’t saying that this move precluded waiving Poti, but it is another way to keep shedding cap space. What is his hit? 2.5-3.5 mil? I would argue Morrisonn, Green are above him and if Alzner is brought up then he jumps above Poti as well.
by JimCareyFanClub on Nov 10, 2009 12:44 PM EST up reply actions
Moving Nylander gives the team plenty of cap space, and there’s no way moving Poti is addition by subtration. Unless they have plans for that space, it’s giving away an asset of value.
True. I would think it would be more of an option if there were stronger veteran d-men available via trade that wouldn’t handcuff the Caps salary cap-wise. Regardless, I think Poti needs to step up his game to set himself apart as being the Caps clear-cut #2 d-man.
by JimCareyFanClub on Nov 10, 2009 12:49 PM EST up reply actions
I would think it would be more of an option if there were stronger veteran d-men available via trade
And what assests would you be willing to trade for a veteran d-man? Especially if you’re willing to waive Poti, who is at the very least a minutes eater.
I’d be looking to add some grit to the blue line. A crease-clearing defenseman that is good on the PK. Guys like Green, Pothier, and if they decide Carlson is ready can help on the PP. But this team needs defenseman that have an edge to them. IMO, Poti is a minutes eater, and while valuable, I’d like to see our veteran defensemen accomplish something while out on the ice.
As far as what to give up, I don’t know exactly how to value the Caps prospects. But I’d say that Fehr is definitely expendable. If they looked to acquire an upper-tier defenseman, we all know that the Caps have the top prospects to acquire said player. The only thing that I’ll admit I’m not sure about is how our mid-level prospects grade out.
by JimCareyFanClub on Nov 10, 2009 12:55 PM EST up reply actions
I think you’re over-valueing the majority of the Caps prospects if you want a top-tier defenseman in return.
I wasn’t overvaluing any of the prospects. The only problem is that the Caps most likely won’t part with Alzner/Carlson because one or both are close to helping right now. One of Varly/Neuvirth could definitely be the centerpiece of a trade for a big name d-man, however that is a trade that shouldn’t be made for at least another year.
The main problem with the prospects is that it seems there are a few great ones then a lot of guys that can’t net a solid return.
by JimCareyFanClub on Nov 10, 2009 1:17 PM EST up reply actions
Oh, and someone that can fight so that “Glass-Jaw” Bradley doesn’t have to keep losing fights.
by JimCareyFanClub on Nov 10, 2009 12:59 PM EST up reply actions
In GreenLife52’s dreams…
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by J.P. on Nov 10, 2009 12:39 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
waffle fries aren’t greasy enough. Gangstra strikes me as the type that enjoys Five Guys and Thrashers.
Yes, but you need the waffle fries as the foundation upon which you’ll pour the gravy. Duh.
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by J.P. on Nov 10, 2009 12:43 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
This comment makes me look forward to seeing the team at Bell in a couple weeks THAT MUCH more.
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by Bald Pollack on Nov 10, 2009 1:33 PM EST up reply actions
Gotta say, I never saw poutine made with waffle fries in the four years I was up there – clearly I wasn’t going to the right places!
Oh this is just blind poutine anticipation, regardless of strategery.
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by Bald Pollack on Nov 10, 2009 1:35 PM EST up reply actions
mmmmmmm.
so i finally found some poutine when randomly out in Columbia. it was “poutine duck fat fries”. i nearly threw up. i kept pointing at it and saying “this is not poutine!!”
by ns on Nov 10, 2009 1:45 PM EST up reply actions
I have gone so far as to mail order poutine gravy from canada and search store by store in the DC area for cheese curds.
That said, Molson and poutine worked out pretty nice for watching the playoffs last year.
order your cheese curds direct from Wisconsin. Its damned well impossible to find acceptable cheese curds in DC.
order your cheese curds direct from Wisconsin
I fully endorse this.
"If you're gonna die after 24, might as well jump out at 23:59, no?"
by Laich It Or Lump It on Nov 10, 2009 2:36 PM EST up reply actions
just had some brought back this weekend straight from the dairy farmers that packaged them.
Because now I can justify browsing and commenting during the work day with the argument that I am promoting my business.
by Sombrero Guy on Nov 10, 2009 4:43 PM EST up reply actions
ha true, but at some point, you have to ask how much do you want to pay for something that costs $3 in montreal.
I found cheese curds in Wegman’s for what its worth.
yeah, but how much does it cost to go to Montreal? :)
I get rather absurd amounts of fresh Wisconsin beer shipped to me, too. My fridge is well stocked at the moment, along with some dogfish and the last couple of 6 packs of Sam’s Oktoberfest I could find.
Ever been to Great Dane Pub? There’s one in Madison, maybe other places too.
"If you're gonna die after 24, might as well jump out at 23:59, no?"
by Laich It Or Lump It on Nov 10, 2009 3:02 PM EST up reply actions
waaaaaay up north? means different things to different ’Sconnies. Although the brewery location clearly qualifies. Even farther north than where I grew up (which is way up there, too).
oooh, i have to remember to plan some poutine eating for the playoffs. good call.
by ns on Nov 10, 2009 2:38 PM EST up reply actions
I believe Birch and Barley on 14th street offers poutine as an appetizer, though it’s classed up a bit. If the 555 beers weren’t a good enough reason to go, there’s your cherry on top.
If you can actually get in the door. They been “at capacity” every time I’ve tried.
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by Scott in Shaw on Nov 10, 2009 4:00 PM EST up reply actions
I’ve gotten in twice, albeit rather early (5-ish). It’s worth it. Give it time for the hype to subside, and then go enjoy some delicious cask ale.
Next time I have a day off…
"Let the rest be scared of us." - Sasha Semin
by Scott in Shaw on Nov 10, 2009 6:40 PM EST up reply actions
If Chick-fil-A served poutine
It’d be Chick-fil-Eh…
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Nov 10, 2009 5:04 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Between you and F&B
This thread is getting downright pun-tastic.
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That’ll look good next to my Jagr bobble head. Too soon?
by JimCareyFanClub on Nov 10, 2009 12:41 PM EST up reply actions
I know you’re joking, but I hope Nylander doesn’t go down in Caps history along the likes of Jagr. Couldn’t be more different in terms of personal character.
I certainly don’t view him like Jagr. But I do own a Jagr-Caps bobblehead…
by JimCareyFanClub on Nov 10, 2009 1:11 PM EST up reply actions
No, definitely not. He’s not Jagr. They both had awful contracts, but I never doubted Nyls’ good faith (or at least not until long after he became somewhat sympathetic).
Yeah Nyls wouldn’t quit on the team even when we wanted him to.
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by Rob Parker on Nov 10, 2009 5:06 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Nyls has actually been fantastic through this whole thing. Sure, his paycheck helps make it easier, but how hard would it be to go to work every morning knowing that its for nothing and just killing time. Especially when he feels he can still perform at a high level.
I have nothing but admiration for the way Nyls handled himself throughout this whole thing.
"I think the relentless negative coverage in The Washington Post is a real difference from previous years," Redskins general counsel David Donovan said. "But in terms of the way our actual fans are behaving, we don't see any difference."
by Sct112 on Nov 10, 2009 6:27 PM EST up reply actions 5 recs
Rec for the joke and for Nylander handling this like, as folks more articulate than myself phrased it, “like the consummate professional”.
by Knee high to a duck on Nov 10, 2009 6:37 PM EST up reply actions
Now, would his bobblehead actually have a bobbly head or would it just spin around in circles? We want to be realistic, here…
by Becca H on Nov 10, 2009 1:40 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
We’re going for accuracy here – creepy is an indirect consequence.
by DrinkingPartner on Nov 10, 2009 2:27 PM EST up reply actions
Somewhere...
…Linda Blair’s ears are burning…
Let's go Caps!
by MikeL-Pivonka on Nov 10, 2009 3:04 PM EST up reply actions
Invest in hedge funds or...
Save it to sign an ass-kicking d-man like Tom Gilbert if Edmonton will part with him.
by S h a g g y on Nov 10, 2009 12:40 PM EST up reply actions
You and I have very different understandings of Tom Gilbert’s game. I thought he was a more offensive guy.
If consequences dictate the course of action, then it doesn't matter what's right, it's only wrong if you get caught. If consequences dictate the course of action, then I should play God...
We are closer in our understanding than you think – I meant more like production ass kicking, vs literal ass kicking.
If I’m GMGM (which I’m not), I bury that cap space under a rock for a month or two and wait to see what unfolds.
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by gotsparkly on Nov 10, 2009 12:45 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Absolutely. The team can now afford to play the ‘wait and see’ game with the plethora of dmen on the roster versus being pressed into a move…
by ThreePingPost on Nov 10, 2009 12:48 PM EST up reply actions
nachos and dip for Ov
Rock the Red! Rock the White! Rock the Blue! Rock the Pens!
by RedskinFan4Life on Nov 10, 2009 9:29 PM EST up reply actions
$4.875M...
…will buy a lot of nachos, even at the VC.
Let's go Caps!
by MikeL-Pivonka on Nov 10, 2009 11:32 PM EST up reply actions
What they lack in quality, they make up for in price. Then again, Ovie seems to like them.
Personally, I get popcorn from Joe at the popper stand by section 117. He’s been making popcorn at the VC (and at the old arena) since the 1970s…
Let's go Caps!
by MikeL-Pivonka on Nov 11, 2009 2:28 PM EST up reply actions
awesome that Steinberg worked in a circle joke.
Which is only a couple letters away from being a circle…. never mind.
"If you're gonna die after 24, might as well jump out at 23:59, no?"
by Laich It Or Lump It on Nov 10, 2009 12:47 PM EST reply actions
Reply fail.
"If you're gonna die after 24, might as well jump out at 23:59, no?"
by Laich It Or Lump It on Nov 10, 2009 12:48 PM EST up reply actions
Man, BMcK is hedging…
“And since this Russian thing looked like it was going to get done a time or two before and didn’t, we better wait for official confirmation.”
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Bob McKenzie = the Bible?
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McKenzie love me, this I know.
"If you're gonna die after 24, might as well jump out at 23:59, no?"
by Laich It Or Lump It on Nov 10, 2009 12:51 PM EST up reply actions
People always love “told you so.” Rec’d.
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Ha!
Wow, the blog-meister himself isn’t even Rec’ing what he “Rec’d”… what’s this (online) world coming to!
Semin was the second gunman on the grassy knoll, clearly he must be traded.
by Chris meet Alex on Nov 10, 2009 6:37 PM EST up reply actions
Wow, the blog-meister himself isn’t using the sarcasm font… what’s this (online) world coming to!
Semin was the second gunman on the grassy knoll, clearly he must be traded.
by Chris meet Alex on Nov 11, 2009 12:40 PM EST up reply actions
I guess he must have missed a decimal point or something.
by ThreePingPost on Nov 10, 2009 12:51 PM EST up reply actions
"I always fuck up these mundane little details"
Fuck up this, Bob.
I'm trying to work out a deal with a club in Europe
Bob “Nylander heading to Russia” McKenzie?
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by J.P. on Nov 10, 2009 12:51 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
Bennigan’s still exists? I thought they went out of business?
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There’s one in Rockville at Federal Plaza…
Let's go Caps!
by MikeL-Pivonka on Nov 10, 2009 3:05 PM EST up reply actions
Just proves the fact
It doesn’t matter where you play an All Star game, it’s still boring.
I don't care how you score goals. Pretty or ugly. The ballet or the bulldozer. However you do it, just do it. And make sure you do it more than the other guys.
I think we should retire his number tomorrow night….but not #92….we should raise 4.758 million to the rafters…
by SA-Town on Nov 10, 2009 1:03 PM EST reply actions 4 recs
Man, McKenzie’s out on an island right now. Gotta figure the team tipped Corey and Tarik to keep their powder dry for the moment.
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ehhh, except TEB reported yesterday that he’s likely headed to Minsk.
Russian Machine very rarely breaks.
Tarik said he’s heard that it’s possibly Minsk, true. But he didn’t come with “Nylander heading to Russia.”
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I wouldn’t be surprised if Tarik and Corey know what’s coming, so they can write their articles, on the condition that it’s embargoed until they get permission.
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Nov 10, 2009 1:17 PM EST up reply actions
Like Mike Green’s weight?
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by Rob Parker on Nov 10, 2009 1:44 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Isn’t GMGM supposed to be addressing this today? Anyone know when/if that’s happening? McKenzie can speculate all he wants, until I hear it from the team I won’t believe it.
Per Corey: “[A] team official said it looks like there WON’T be an update on Michael Nylander’s status today.”
So…never mind. Awesome. We get a whole day (at least) to celebrate/speculate/hand-wring…
Corey preceded that with the awesome “A team official said it looks like there will be an update on Michael Nylander’s status today.” Oops.
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Speaking of which, GMGM was just kibitzing in a corner with Lou Lamoriello at the meeting (showing on NHL Live right now). Hmmm.
“Lou, you’ve got to tell Jacques ‘No More Trap.’ If I have to listen to Locker bitch about it one more time, I might kill him with my death glare. And I really don’t want to go to jail.”
by RedBirdie on Nov 10, 2009 1:42 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Reference cap space, haven’t seen anybody post this yet, but Corey tweeted the following yesterday:
@cmasisak22 about 18 hours ago
According to @capgeek if today was the last day on the roster for Michael Nylander, the #Caps will save $3,889,896 of his 4.875 mil cap hit.
Meaning that if they did nothing for the rest of the year, they’d have about $12m worth of cushion to work with at the deadline (that number times just over 3/4 of the season). That’s a lot more cash than they’d likely be able to use.
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Okay, wait – talk to me like I’m a small child because what you just said didn’t make sense, I’m very confused. I’m not great with this whole salary, cap hit, percentage of a year stuff.
You only pay someone when they’re on your roster. So if you have 3.8 in cap space but you only have to pay someone for about 1/4 of the season you can afford someone who makes more in a year.
Right. This.
Say (for the ease of numbers) that the Caps save $4m for Nyls, that they’re exactly at the cap before moving Nyls, that they do nothing else this season, and that the trade deadline is with exactly 1/4 of the season left. They’d have $4m to spend but only have to pay 1/4 of salaries, so they can hook themselves with up to $16m in annual player salaries (ex. and $8m player and two $4m guys).
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So basically money ain’t a thang when it comes to adding someone at the deadline. That’s pretty exciting.
Well, a lot of other things come into play, namely injuries and LTIR.
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Booooo…talk about your gruesome twosomes; I’m glad this was (hopefully) a sarcastic suggestion.
Even if Briere was as good as he’s hyped to be, which he’s not, I would never want the Caps to pay that much for a little troll who goes into every scrum with his stick out and ready to spear guys.
Well, yes, since -
A) Briere is a clown
and
B) How would that cap look for 2010?
Russian Machine very rarely breaks.
Correction
Briere is an assclown.
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by D'ohboy on Nov 10, 2009 3:11 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Admittedly, as much as I dislike Danielle Briere, I’d rather have him spearing for me than against me.
by DrinkingPartner on Nov 10, 2009 2:33 PM EST up reply actions
no way, Briere is a guy I put on my “do not draft” list in fantasy hockey. Even if he gets you points, it takes some of the enjoyment out of hockey having to root for him.
by Stormblue on Nov 10, 2009 2:35 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
As a rule of (Tom) Thumb
I usually like the little guys. Briere is just a special level of douche.
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Caps trade for Kovalchuk, let Semin walk at year’s end, resign Kovalchuk to long-term deal. (e5)
by JimCareyFanClub on Nov 10, 2009 1:37 PM EST up reply actions
Honestly, moreso than any other two-some: yes, please, yes, please.
by DrinkingPartner on Nov 10, 2009 2:34 PM EST up reply actions
Interesting names on the 2010 FA list (Quick and dirty, no research done):
Keith Tkachuk
Aaron Ward
Adrian Aucoin
Doug Weight
Niclas Wallin
Darryl Sydor
Steve Ott
Jere Lehtinen
Oh, man…Steve freaking Ott, I would love that. Do it, GMGM!
I also love Doug Weight but I think he’s gotten too old and injury-prone – although I have nothing to back that up, so I could be wrong.
Yeah, I’m not tripping over myself to sign any of those guys, personally.
by DrinkingPartner on Nov 10, 2009 2:36 PM EST up reply actions
Even with that caveat, most of the names on that list don’t jump out as players that will immediately help this team.
You don’t think any of them would help at all? I mean, they aren’t Kovalchuk but I’d say any of them would fit in nicely come April.
Depends on what kind of impact you’re looking for. I doubt that anyone on that list would have the level of impact that Feds or Huet had with the Caps. And I can’t see any of them having an impact like Guerin did with the Guins.
Buuuuut I can’t see into the future, so I don’t know what the Caps are going to need around the trade deadline. If today were the deadline, I’d think long and hard about a couple of the dmen, but I don’t think any of the forwards offer that much of an upgrade.
I could see Ott being the missing grit we need on the team. I could see Ward giving us a steady veteran presence that won’t get rattled. Would I give up much for either? No. But I don’t think they’d be superfluous on our roster.
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Not as familiar with Ott, but is he a walkskating 5 minute boarding major waiting to happen, like Cooke is/was?
Definitely is but he seems to get away with them in-game. He’s more of a 2-game suspension waiting to happen.
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Haven’t watched Lehtonen for a while, but doesn’t he also have a reputation for being a huge pain in the ass to deal with in the playoffs?
He’s a real good two-way defensive forward and I think he’s had a few decent playoffs but nothing on the Claude Lemieux level.
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With all these posts, you’d think we lost a guy with 3rd line potential to the Penguins or something.
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by Bald Pollack on Nov 10, 2009 1:38 PM EST reply actions 22 recs
I’ve moved on to acceptance. I wish Chris well in Pittsburgh.
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Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Nov 10, 2009 11:53 PM EST up reply actions
BREAKING: I’ve removed “BREAKING” from the title of this post.
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Darn...
… I think we all were hoping to see you break dance J.P. ;-)
Let's go Caps!
by MikeL-Pivonka on Nov 10, 2009 3:09 PM EST up reply actions
That’s for Breaking 2, Electrink Bugaloo
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Maybe we should get Chelios?
/backs out of the room while dodging tomatoes.
I don't care how you score goals. Pretty or ugly. The ballet or the bulldozer. However you do it, just do it. And make sure you do it more than the other guys.
Aside from him possibly looking at the Isle right now, he’s got enough on his plate by ruining the Players’ Union right now.
"I'm just doing karate and trying to get females pregnant."
by Bald Pollack on Nov 10, 2009 1:48 PM EST up reply actions
1. Per CI post (that makes sense) – by the time Nylander made his decision, the KHL office was closed for the business day. Hence “no official announcement” and being delayed by a day again.
2. Anyone else find it ironic that this story, for quite a while now too, is just going around in CIRCLES!
by bigity b on Nov 10, 2009 2:01 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Actually, I hear he already has a verbal commitment with one team, but tomorrow he’ll sign paperwork to join a different team.
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Nov 10, 2009 2:03 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Stay tuned
For scenes from the next episode of “Michael Nylander: Wife Team Swap”
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Michael & Kate Plus 14?
Let's go Caps!
by MikeL-Pivonka on Nov 10, 2009 3:09 PM EST up reply actions
Wait, are you saying Nylander is actually Gus Gilchrist?
"If you're gonna die after 24, might as well jump out at 23:59, no?"
by Laich It Or Lump It on Nov 10, 2009 2:16 PM EST up reply actions
The person to which it refers, yes, however I thought the reference itself was pretty clever.
"If you're gonna die after 24, might as well jump out at 23:59, no?"
by Laich It Or Lump It on Nov 10, 2009 3:11 PM EST up reply actions
Hey, that new V series is supposed to be the bomb, yo.
"I'm just doing karate and trying to get females pregnant."
by Bald Pollack on Nov 10, 2009 2:25 PM EST up reply actions
AMC remade The Prisoner...
…that will do better than V. Esp. with Ian McKellan as #2.
Let's go Caps!
by MikeL-Pivonka on Nov 10, 2009 3:10 PM EST up reply actions
I saw peeks of it at SDCC, but it seemed to fall into “meh” territory for me.
"I'm just doing karate and trying to get females pregnant."
by Bald Pollack on Nov 10, 2009 5:17 PM EST up reply actions
so over it
…just browsing flights from Minsk to Stockholm. Not bad at all!
Srsly. Let’s get this show on the road.
you know, if I wasn’t a Caps fan, I’d find the whole Nylander Saga to be the best hockey soap opera in years.
Does that make the Nylander story…
Nah, it’d be too easy to make that joke
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Nov 10, 2009 4:31 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
With GMGM uo in Toronto with all the other GMGM, er, GM's
Might there still be an NHL deal in the works, however unlikely?
29 other teams could have claimed him for half the salary without giving up players 2 days ago; he’s going to Minsk, barring unforeseen circumstances.
"I'm just doing karate and trying to get females pregnant."
by Bald Pollack on Nov 10, 2009 2:33 PM EST up reply actions
wouldn’t they have claimed him for all the salary, since it was just regular waivers, and not re-entries?
Yep, you’re right; got caught up in the moment.
"I'm just doing karate and trying to get females pregnant."
by Bald Pollack on Nov 10, 2009 3:20 PM EST up reply actions
If Nylander goes to Dinamo Minsk, he will have a challenge — they don’t appear to be in playoff contention. On the English language KHL site, they have 28 points and are 15th in the league (out of 24). By the way, for Fedorov watchers, his team is on top of the league with 52 points. He’s 4-7-11 with one game-winning goal and a 64.2% win ratio in the dots. I would say he appears to be enjoying his retirement from the NHL. I hope that Nylander will also enjoy wherever he ends up. He was very reliable up until his shoulder injury, and he played hurt for a long time when we needed him to do that. That should not be forgotten.
Wow, kids – 330 comments (and counting) and nothing is even official yet.
We’re not ready to see Nylander go away or anything…
Maybe this was an elaborate hoax to get more page views for this site…. I’m on to you guys.
"If you're gonna die after 24, might as well jump out at 23:59, no?"
by Laich It Or Lump It on Nov 10, 2009 3:04 PM EST up reply actions
Dammit, even my work is conspiring against me. I just read:
“Dynamic Micro’s F.O.B. argument only addresses the risk of loss in commercial transactions. It is clear that Dynamic Micro and its United States customers intended that Dynamic Micro ship the Model 300 to them in this country.” Semitool, Inc. v. Dynamic Micro Sys. Semiconductor Equip. Gmbh, 2002 U.S. Dist. LEXIS 23050, *23 (D.Cal. September 5, 2002).
But every “Dynamic Micro” became “Dynamo Minsk” to my tired eyes.
Atta dinnin stick a who!
Dynamic Micro is the new name of the Montreal Canadiens.
Void Boyd! Go with Perreault!
by jordanDC on Nov 10, 2009 3:07 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
I’m researching the deep metaphysical question “what is a sale, when you really get down to it?”
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Nov 10, 2009 4:34 PM EST up reply actions
It depends on what your definition of is is.
"If you're gonna die after 24, might as well jump out at 23:59, no?"
by Laich It Or Lump It on Nov 10, 2009 4:53 PM EST up reply actions
That’s still a joke today, but you have to give the guy credit for the balls and brilliance of that defense. Just jaw dropping bravado to pull that one out.
I don't care how you score goals. Pretty or ugly. The ballet or the bulldozer. However you do it, just do it. And make sure you do it more than the other guys.
Just to be nitpicky for a second here, if he is indeed headed to Minsk, that would be Belarus, not Russia.
Wherever he’s shipping out to, it’s about time this foolishness ended.
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Broad Street Hockey.
What, like there’s no pressures to reunite? Except that their leaders are always talking about it? And I can say “largely” without it including your friends.
I prefer pointillism.
Sundays in the park. . . with Georges
I'm trying to work out a deal with a club in Europe
Having the public outraged over Nylander instead could be just what he needs to avoid a coup.
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Broad Street Hockey.
by Ben Rothenberg on Nov 10, 2009 3:33 PM EST up reply actions
Oh great, another overnight. It’s not like the Nylander household hasn’t changed their minds on contract decisions when given a moment in the past…
Then GMGM screams in frustration before pushing Nylander out a window.
I don't care how you score goals. Pretty or ugly. The ballet or the bulldozer. However you do it, just do it. And make sure you do it more than the other guys.
Dude. I was JUST going to say that, freaky.
And I think if GMGM knocks off Nylander we get a draft pick taken away or something.
Worth it. With the money we save, would could sign a proven FA player!
Void Boyd! Go with Perreault!
You have to really admire the patience of Boudreau and GMGM. If Nylander played for the Wings Babcock would have brained him by now.
I don't care how you score goals. Pretty or ugly. The ballet or the bulldozer. However you do it, just do it. And make sure you do it more than the other guys.
Don't you mean: Bizarro Babcock?
Because only Bizarro Ken Holland would ever sign that Nylander contract.
If consequences dictate the course of action, then it doesn't matter what's right, it's only wrong if you get caught. If consequences dictate the course of action, then I should play God...
Except, if it was Bizarro Babcock, then he would have put him on the first line and told the media he admired Nylander’s ability to stay out of the way of the rest of players.
I don't care how you score goals. Pretty or ugly. The ballet or the bulldozer. However you do it, just do it. And make sure you do it more than the other guys.
In related news
I found this cool hourglass animation they can use on the Caps website til they have final newslander
Hey, why’d you post the Nylander family crest?
I don't care how you score goals. Pretty or ugly. The ballet or the bulldozer. However you do it, just do it. And make sure you do it more than the other guys.
by Holt Worth on Nov 10, 2009 3:43 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
tictactoehockey.blogspot.com
myunjustifiedego.blogspot.com
by turnituptoeleven on Nov 10, 2009 3:43 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
GreenLife52’d
"Let the rest be scared of us." - Sasha Semin
by Scott in Shaw on Nov 10, 2009 4:03 PM EST up reply actions
Point taken. Granted, your creative juices would too be tapped after a six hour crit.
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by turnituptoeleven on Nov 10, 2009 5:00 PM EST up reply actions
Oh, and wasn’t it Green who said he hadn’t read a book since he was in seventh grade? Double ouch.
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by turnituptoeleven on Nov 10, 2009 5:01 PM EST up reply actions
I just meant the gangsta-ish language.
"Let the rest be scared of us." - Sasha Semin
by Scott in Shaw on Nov 10, 2009 6:43 PM EST up reply actions
Where did you ride? Nice night out – perfect weather…
I'm trying to work out a deal with a club in Europe
Sorry: “Critique.” If I finished a criterium in six hours, I might have to kill myself. I did, however, ride home from the metro yesterday, if that counts for anything.
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by turnituptoeleven on Nov 10, 2009 11:21 PM EST up reply actions
WARNING!
The Hockey Gods do not like premature cap-space-ular discussions. Do not anger the hockey gods! They will get vengeance!
I don't care how you score goals. Pretty or ugly. The ballet or the bulldozer. However you do it, just do it. And make sure you do it more than the other guys.
THAT'S WHAT YOU USE TO GET BAD THOUGHTS OUT OF YOUR HEAD??????
May I humbly recommend this instead?
I'm trying to work out a deal with a club in Europe
by D'ohboy on Nov 10, 2009 5:07 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Those were more of the thoughts I was trying to remove.
“$4.875M in cap space has been shown to increase the size of a certain part of the male anatomy.”
Looks like she’s sitting on the lip of a giant toilet. Hey, if you’re into that kind of thing, that’s cool.
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Nov 10, 2009 5:26 PM EST up reply actions
Why do you want me to think of herpes?
I don't care how you score goals. Pretty or ugly. The ballet or the bulldozer. However you do it, just do it. And make sure you do it more than the other guys.
Not exactly...
But with this one…
I don't care how you score goals. Pretty or ugly. The ballet or the bulldozer. However you do it, just do it. And make sure you do it more than the other guys.
Brian Austin Green got herpes from a toilet seat?
by Icebat on Nov 10, 2009 5:48 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
And then there's this...
In an effort to provide as much info as possible on Nyles’ likely future home, I present a couple of shots of Dinamo Minsk’s Ice Girls:
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I knew there was a reason this was my favorite blog...
Awful dye job aside (ahhh Eastern Europe!), Mrs. Nylander has plenty to be unhappy about.
I'm trying to work out a deal with a club in Europe
You mean besides the fact that she has to move her 92 kids to Belarus after hand-picking the American city she was most comfortable in?
"Let the rest be scared of us." - Sasha Semin
by Scott in Shaw on Nov 10, 2009 6:46 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, that too
That’s the more adult way of looking at it, I suppose. I was thinking with my dipstick.
I'm trying to work out a deal with a club in Europe
Is that why he wears #92?
I would have thought there was other significance….
Let's go Caps!
by MikeL-Pivonka on Nov 11, 2009 8:57 AM EST up reply actions
Oh man...
If I were an unwanted veteran in the twilight of my career I’d TOTALLY want to go play there. I mean, what unwanted veteran in the twilight of his career wouldn’t?
Just sayin…
I don't care how you score goals. Pretty or ugly. The ballet or the bulldozer. However you do it, just do it. And make sure you do it more than the other guys.
He’s going to Minsk, but why does the shirt in the first pic say “I Heart Bahamas”?
"I'm just doing karate and trying to get females pregnant."
by Bald Pollack on Nov 10, 2009 7:36 PM EST up reply actions
Question about Nylander's status post-Russian team's season ending...
The KHL’s regular season ends on March 7th and the playoffs can end on April 27th. Is the length of the “loan” to a Russian club dependent on how long that team actually ends up playing? If his Russian team fails to make the playoffs, or doesn’t advance past the end of the NHL regular season on April 11th, what is Nylander’s status? Would he be forced to return to the Capitals active roster after the conclusion of his new team’s season? Not sure how this was handled when Darius Kasparaitis was “loaned” to a Russian team by the Rangers several years back (story here: http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/rangers/2007/10/kasparaitis-headed-back-to-rus.html ). Is there a chance that the Caps could still possibly be on the hook for a salary cap hit, however small, in March or April?
…..Nylander is many things, but Sidney Crosby is not one of them.
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by gotsparkly on Nov 10, 2009 7:07 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
I hardly think this news was worthy of 500 comments…
But Brawndo's got what plants crave. It's got electrolytes.
Vladimir El Bashir:
What are we doing now?
Estragon Masisak
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Nov 10, 2009 8:08 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
Vladimir El Bashir:
What are we doing now?
Estragon Masisak
We’re waiting for Nylander…
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Nov 10, 2009 8:08 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
From the classic “Waiting For To Go”.
IS PЯACTICE ЯINK NOW
by EmilyB on Nov 10, 2009 8:11 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Vladimir El Bashir:
To treat a man . . . like that . . . I think that . . . no . . . a human being . . . no . . . it’s a scandal!
Estragon Masisak:
A disgrace!
Pozzo Beninati:
You are severe.
If you've read this far...seek help.
by ThePeerless on Nov 10, 2009 8:41 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
This whole thread just got rec'd
Honestly, this made my night after my effing bike computer conked out on me at mile 49 of 50. :)
I'm trying to work out a deal with a club in Europe
VLADIMIR:
Let’s wait and see what he says.
ESTRAGON:
Who?
VLADIMIR:
[Nylander.]
ESTRAGON:
Good idea.
VLADIMIR:
Let’s wait till we know exactly how we stand.
ESTRAGON:
On the other hand it might be better to strike the iron before it freezes.
VLADIMIR:
I’m curious to hear what he has to offer. Then we’ll take it or leave it.
ESTRAGON:
What exactly did we ask him for?
VLADIMIR:
Were you not there?
ESTRAGON:
I can’t have been listening.
VLADIMIR:
Oh . . . Nothing very definite.
ESTRAGON:
A kind of prayer.
VLADIMIR:
Precisely.
ESTRAGON:
A vague supplication.
VLADIMIR:
Exactly.
ESTRAGON:
And what did he reply?
VLADIMIR:
That he’d see.
ESTRAGON:
That he couldn’t promise anything.
VLADIMIR:
That he’d have to think it over.
ESTRAGON:
In the quiet of his home.
VLADIMIR:
Consult his family.
ESTRAGON:
His friends.
VLADIMIR:
His agents.
ESTRAGON:
His correspondents.
VLADIMIR:
His books.
ESTRAGON:
His bank account.
VLADIMIR:
Before taking a decision.
ESTRAGON:
It’s the normal thing.
VLADIMIR:
Is it not?
ESTRAGON:
I think it is.
VLADIMIR:
I think so too.
Silence.
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Nov 11, 2009 1:24 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
i enjoyed reading this thread today - what a whirlwind…… thanks for the laugh. how do i do a double rec?
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by RedskinFan4Life on Nov 10, 2009 9:37 PM EST reply actions
It’s whatever time Putin says it is…
Let's go Caps!
by MikeL-Pivonka on Nov 11, 2009 8:58 AM EST up reply actions
Currently 4:45 PM in Minsk. Get on it, McPhee!
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Nov 11, 2009 9:45 AM EST up reply actions
GOD, the resident japers’ rink international time zone coordinator.
by Natty Bumppo on Nov 11, 2009 12:53 PM EST up reply actions
OK, someone explain why it’s now 9:00 in MInsk and we still haven’t heard anything? I figured for certain that if I was away from a computer and a radio that something would have happened by now.
Because I had to be snarky.
Amen. I’ve been refreshing the rink like mad hoping to see that fanshot at the top. Getting worried.
So basically, since Saturday, we’ve accomplished nothing other than finding out that none of the other teams wants to claim Nylander’s contract.
Awesome.
Russian Machine very rarely breaks.
I was just catching up on the twitter collection — do I read correctly that he’s outta here, but we won’t know for sure and to where until possibly the weekend? Arrgh!
Just read this.
He’s willing to go to Russia, everything else must be just a formality.
Russian Machine very rarely breaks.
Except he doesn’t “sign” with Minsk. But yeah.
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“I haven’t experienced any of that,” McPhee said, of trade discussions with his counterparts. “I haven’t had one discussion.”
Pretty remarkable — McPhee very rarely opens up about negotiations, and only to send a message. Like when he told everyone the Caps had matched Huet’s offer, but Huet didn’t sign.
Here the message is for Nylander and it’s pretty obvious: “Whatever it is you’re holding out for, it ain’t going to happen so you’d better make up your mind.”
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Nov 11, 2009 4:40 PM EST up reply actions
Be Gone!
What’s taking so long to get this thing done? LEAVE! GET OUT! Grab a flight.
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