Mike Green Unfiltered - Too Much So?
by J.P. on Oct 29, 2009 2:00 PM EDT
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PrintOne of the great things about being a sports fan in this day and age is the access we have to the players we follow. Through social media and real-time online coverage, our collective insatiable hunger for the latest news (and non-news) is getting fed around the clock.
For example, Mike Green has 2,309 followers on Twitter, some of whom, no doubt are minors. Earlier today, all of them got to see this:
No, it's not the most offensive thing an athlete has tweeted this week. Frankly, I'm more concerned that the Norris finalist might not be feeling well.
But it gets right to the heart of the conflict sports leagues and teams are facing as they try to figure out how best to handle their employees' new-found voices. Part of the beauty of some of the increase in coverage referenced above is that it's coming from the athletes themselves - unfiltered, warts and all. So do we, as fans, want more of "Mike Green being Mike Green," or do we want a censored, PG-rated version? My guess is that what we want and what the team (@WashCaps) and League (@NHL) want are not one in the same.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Oct 29, 2009 2:08 PM EDT reply actions 14 recs
I’m more pissed that he may have the Swine Flu than he used profanity. We all hear these kinds of words at some point in our lives.
by JimCareyFanClub on Oct 29, 2009 2:08 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
That’s one of the more interesting angles – self-reporting by the players about injuries and illnesses.
The coarse language I couldn’t care less about.
As a fan, more personal details or insights on a player’s life, from the player himself, makes it interesting. The question is when it becomes TMI.
by Stephen Pepper on Oct 29, 2009 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Yep. I use fuck in conversation because helps me stall for a better word to use, but the large debate in all this is at what point does it become distracting to the team? Nobody wants another Michael Beasley on their hands.
"I'm just doing karate and trying to get females pregnant."
by Bald Pollack on Oct 29, 2009 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Who the fuck is Michael Beasley?
Maybe play with an edge, be a little more physical -- maybe be more of a prick out there.
by jordanDC on Oct 29, 2009 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Now THAT’S synergy.
"I'm just doing karate and trying to get females pregnant."
by Bald Pollack on Oct 29, 2009 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Mike’s never used that language in his twitter ever before. I’m thinking he isn’t feeling well.
And further to Pepper’s observations, the clubs generally keep tight control over the information about players’ health. We still don’t fully know what was wrong with Semin, for example. And nobody knew Malkin’s shoulder was bothering him ‘til Coach Byslma announced he’d be sitting out for 3 weeks.
Management prolly doesn’t want the players to release that info without their approval or at least guidance.
IS PAЯTY NOW
I don’t have a problem unless he’s cursing at someone, or at a team.
The idea of him or any of the top line players having the swine flu makes me want to drop the f-bomb, too.
by mercurialwinger on Oct 29, 2009 2:12 PM EDT reply actions
If I’m a parent, I might be more upset that he said “your” instead of “you’re”.
Ok, not really, but this is what you get with athletes and Twitter. Anyone freaking out about a twitter f-bomb should be thrilled their kids can’t hear what’s being said on the ice/bench.
by grapejoos on Oct 29, 2009 2:12 PM EDT reply actions 6 recs
It’s fun watching Coyotes games where the audience noise is so low you can hear everything players say, even on the TV.
"My face is my mask."
by Jake Shapiro on Oct 29, 2009 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe I don’t get it because my family never censored themselves or something. I just don’t understand the fucking problem.
Maybe play with an edge, be a little more physical -- maybe be more of a prick out there.
It’s a respect thing. If you’re at a concert and everyone wants to sit down but you want to stand up, you’re going to ruin the view for anyone behind you who wants to stay seated, whereas if you just sit down, everyone can enjoy it.
In other words, you might not have a problem with it, but you should be able to respect those who do as long as it doesn’t impact you too much.
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I understand your analogy and agree very much, but Twitter is an opt-in service. Where you can’t usually move your seat at the concert, you can definitely unfollow Greenie.
And yes, let’s all sit down at the concert. Standing is for jerks.
Maybe play with an edge, be a little more physical -- maybe be more of a prick out there.
by jordanDC on Oct 29, 2009 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
And yes, let’s all sit down at the concert. Standing is for jerks.
Ugh.
"If you're gonna die after 24, might as well jump out at 23:59, no?"
by Laich It Or Lump It on Oct 29, 2009 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions
If there are bolted-in seats, SIT. That is all!
Maybe play with an edge, be a little more physical -- maybe be more of a prick out there.
Sitting at a rock concert is like racing a Corvette in second gear. You paid a lot of money for your thrills, but you aren’t getting the full experience.
"If you're gonna die after 24, might as well jump out at 23:59, no?"
by Laich It Or Lump It on Oct 29, 2009 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Ehhh, he doesn’t sound as good live anyway.
Maybe play with an edge, be a little more physical -- maybe be more of a prick out there.
Yanni?
"If you're gonna die after 24, might as well jump out at 23:59, no?"
by Laich It Or Lump It on Oct 29, 2009 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions
I specified rock concert. I wouldn’t stand up for an orchestra or something.
"If you're gonna die after 24, might as well jump out at 23:59, no?"
by Laich It Or Lump It on Oct 29, 2009 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions
It would be pretty funny to see people standing up and yelling during a Mozart concerto though.
"If you're gonna die after 24, might as well jump out at 23:59, no?"
by Laich It Or Lump It on Oct 29, 2009 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions
This is why rock concerts with seats (stadium, arenas, etc.) generally suck. I was shocked when I went to one and you needed a seperate ticket to get on the floor of the arena.
by Its Cold In Here on Oct 29, 2009 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed, not a perfect analogy (though a concert is opt-in too). I’m just saying that it can be a respect thing. I love cursing. Fucking love it. But I usually temper my language around those who don’t and on Twitter and in posts in case those readers aren’t crazy about it.
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Yet you tell people here to watch the cursing…
"Let the rest be scared of us." - Sasha Semin
by Scott in Shaw on Oct 29, 2009 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions
I was waiting to see when you’d show up today to stomp on my nuts – always a daily highlight.
I ask people to temper their cursing, as I think it can be a bit much at times and there are differences in tone, etc., not to mention that it loses its effectiveness when used excessively.
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It’s cool when it adds emphasis, which doesn’t work if it happens all the time. If there’s some cleverness to the comment, that makes the cursing much more palatable.
Or if you’re on the floor and piped full of Vicodin with a pinched nerve in your back, we’ll probably give you the benefit of the doubt. (as I recall, I was pretty blue of mouth that night, and I had no such excuse)
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Oct 29, 2009 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Nice. I thought about apologizing to someone about that but when I swung through their ’hood in the morning the shit I saw made me say “fuck it.”
If consequences dictate the course of action, then it doesn't matter what's right, it's only wrong if you get caught. If consequences dictate the course of action, then I should play God...
Oh, and further to your main point…
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by J.P. on Oct 29, 2009 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
Rec’d it the first time you pulled this out. Rec’d it again.
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Oct 29, 2009 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions
I think the problem with that analogy is that if you stand up and block my view, that is an objective issue. It’s a fact that I can’t see through you. But swearing is subjective. I choose to be offended or not offended when you say fuck.
Also, I think there is a reason there is a whole amendment to the constitution protecting freedom of speech and none protecting my right to be offended. (There are laws about “reasonable” speech I guess, but fuck it.)
by Its Cold In Here on Oct 29, 2009 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions
The language doesn’t bother me, as long as he’s following Twitter’s TOS — which I don’t really care to look up at the moment.
But your larger question actually does concern me. Are players employees of their teams, or contractors? Either way, do teams still have some right to determine what the public learns, and how it learns it?
Even if a random statement is true and reasonable, it may be phrased in such a way that causes problems or seems to contradict something the team has been saying or even could spark a panic. This tweet may not be anything that should frighten us, but it also could be read in such as way as to scare fans.
Mike Green’s representing himself as part of the Washington Capitals organization, and so I think the team should be able to participate to some degree in the persona he puts forth online.
(But not too much — my sigline is a quote of his, and I love it.)
"Camaraderie, that's what the Washington Capitals are all about."
I think that its strange that nobody has taken offense to this. It is unnecessary and immature. He’s a public figure, whether he wants to be or not he’s held to a higher standard. He knows that Twitter is widely received by a diverse audience. It is incumbent on him to understand what is approriate and what isn’t. He certainly didn’t here.
"I think the relentless negative coverage in The Washington Post is a real difference from previous years," Redskins general counsel David Donovan said. "But in terms of the way our actual fans are behaving, we don't see any difference."
I think that people are afraid to be called “prude” for taking that stance. Hell, I got called out similarly for even raising the question.
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Do you and Wysh have a working relationship or is he actually calling you out on the matter?
"If you're gonna die after 24, might as well jump out at 23:59, no?"
by Laich It Or Lump It on Oct 29, 2009 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions
We have a very good working, drinking and personal relationship. He’s half-joking, but I do think he believes I’ve made an issue where one doesn’t exist.
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in your defense, while I admit to giggling that Greenie wrote “[bleeping] swine flu!” for the whole world to read (except Jeff Schultz), I think you’ve read several interesting points for discussion from this.
in the “Jeff Schultz 9the hockey reporter) meets Jeff Schultz (the hockey player)” the DC Schultz said he doesn’t read. I couldn’t resist a cheap shot.
Also there is a fake Jeff Schultz twitter, and when someone (Steinz maybe?) asked the real Schultz about it, he said he doesn’t use twitter.
"If you're gonna die after 24, might as well jump out at 23:59, no?"
by Laich It Or Lump It on Oct 29, 2009 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions
As do I.
"Let the rest be scared of us." - Sasha Semin
by Scott in Shaw on Oct 29, 2009 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Duly noted. Not sure how the fact that every major sport league has had to institute policies related to this very issue means that it’s a non-issue, but you’re entitled to your opinion.
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Ok, but do their policies relate to the actual language used, or just the timing (e.g. not during games/practices) and content (e.g. don’t disclose your injury or lineup information)?
"Let the rest be scared of us." - Sasha Semin
by Scott in Shaw on Oct 29, 2009 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions
At present, as far as I know, the latter (though I’m sure individual leagues and teams have policies for dealing with the media and the public generally).
The way I see it, it’s an issue – see Larry Johnson, the Redskins idiot from earlier this season, etc. – and one that’s interesting to me. So when someone on the team I cover gives me an opportunity to discuss the issue, I bring it up for discussion.
I absolutely see your point, but I don’t get to write about Johnson or Martin Havlat or others – I get to write about Mike Green. Just about everything we write here puts a bigger spotlight on the issue than it probably needs to have (the team’s toughness, secondary scoring, goaltending, etc.), b/c we’re a team-centric blog that produces massive amounts of quality content (though I guess YMMV re: the quality). So yeah, maybe I’ve taken a molehill here and made a bigger molehill out of it, but it’s the nature of the beast in what we do.
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Don’t be too hard on yourself. You only put up the post. 190+ comments followed because at least some of the Rink Rats think it’s interesting too. A lot of people didn’t think losing Borque was a big issue, but look at what followed. You put the content up, and then the Rink Rats discuss. I’d bet you don’t even know how popular certain topics will be when you post them. Also, this discussion started in the Caps Clips so I don’t think you are the one necessarily manufacturing this discussion; clearly there were people that wanted to talk about it before you even put this post up.
If consequences dictate the course of action, then it doesn't matter what's right, it's only wrong if you get caught. If consequences dictate the course of action, then I should play God...
I have absolutely no problem with you writing about this. As you point out, this is a Caps blog, and a Caps player gave you an opportunity to write about an emerging issue involving social networking (Ted will be so proud!). We, as members, then get to opine as to whether we think it’s a big deal or not (indeed, wasn’t that in part the point of the post?). So I gave my opinion. I didn’t mean to imply that you never should have written the post, just that I don’t happen to agree with you. Similarly, Fox News can run a story about how some ridiculously small number of people at Penn State think that the t-shirts students wear for “white out” games contain subtle Christian imagery and I can post on my Facebook page that it is absurd. Fox can write whatever story they want, and I can say it’s not that big a deal.
Anyway, back to the substance. I happen to think you are right that the team probably has its own policy for dealing with the public. It’s probably very generic, though — something like “always conduct yourself appropriately keeping in mind that you act as a representative of the Washington Capitals organization” — and while Greenie might get a talking to from Nate or Bruce or GM or whoever, we’re probably not going to see him take down his Twitter account or start funneling his Tweets through the PR shop.
By the way, I don’t just stop by to stomp on your nuts. I actually affirmatively love this place and spend more time here than anywhere else on the internet. I just have some sort of deep-seeded need to play ombudsman or something every once in a while.
"Let the rest be scared of us." - Sasha Semin
by Scott in Shaw on Oct 29, 2009 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions
we’re probably not going to see him take down his Twitter account or start funneling his Tweets through the PR shop.
Lord, I sure hope not.
And I’ll always welcome people keeping us honest.
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To elaborate, aka to say anything at all, the general rule online is that if it’s so easily associated with your real name — i.e. on Facebook, a verified twitter account, blog, etc — is that you shouldn’t post it if you wouldn’t say it in front of anyone you’ve ever met.
by sixsevenfiftysix on Oct 29, 2009 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Besides, wouldn’t it have been funny if he wrote “bleeping swine flu”?
by sixsevenfiftysix on Oct 29, 2009 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Pretty sure he’d say it to anyone he’s ever met.
Maybe play with an edge, be a little more physical -- maybe be more of a prick out there.
by jordanDC on Oct 29, 2009 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I’m pretty sure he wouldn’t drop the f-bomb to a kid asking for an autograph.
by sixsevenfiftysix on Oct 29, 2009 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Meh, kids aren’t people until they’re like 13 anyway.
Maybe play with an edge, be a little more physical -- maybe be more of a prick out there.
by jordanDC on Oct 29, 2009 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Even that is generous.
If consequences dictate the course of action, then it doesn't matter what's right, it's only wrong if you get caught. If consequences dictate the course of action, then I should play God...
Rest assured, I’m alive.
If consequences dictate the course of action, then it doesn't matter what's right, it's only wrong if you get caught. If consequences dictate the course of action, then I should play God...
Yeah I’m still in pain but I think it’s getting better. One way or another I’m going to the game tomorrow night.
If consequences dictate the course of action, then it doesn't matter what's right, it's only wrong if you get caught. If consequences dictate the course of action, then I should play God...
You catch a puck on the ankle or something?
"I think the relentless negative coverage in The Washington Post is a real difference from previous years," Redskins general counsel David Donovan said. "But in terms of the way our actual fans are behaving, we don't see any difference."
Pinched a nerve in my back.
If consequences dictate the course of action, then it doesn't matter what's right, it's only wrong if you get caught. If consequences dictate the course of action, then I should play God...
Worse than a blocked shot. Booze helps with both though.
"I think the relentless negative coverage in The Washington Post is a real difference from previous years," Redskins general counsel David Donovan said. "But in terms of the way our actual fans are behaving, we don't see any difference."
Or Vicodin. But not a good idea to do both…
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Oct 29, 2009 6:35 PM EDT up reply actions
I’ve done an admirable job of not mixing, if I do say so. One cocktail since Sunday afternoon.
If consequences dictate the course of action, then it doesn't matter what's right, it's only wrong if you get caught. If consequences dictate the course of action, then I should play God...
Now that would make for a hell of an avatar.
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I have a question though, what is inherently so bad about certain words? Flock is ok, Duck is ok, but what Green said is bad?
Social consensus. Once upon a time, you would be ostracized for saying “blast” in the presence of females.
"Camaraderie, that's what the Washington Capitals are all about."
by CapitalCentre on Oct 29, 2009 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't.
The attraction of Twitter is that it’s supposed to be an unedited, in-the-moment recording of the person it represents, and most of the people who use the service regard it as such. Which means some non-polite things are going to slide through, including some views and opinions that may be far worse than a singular profanity.
People haven’t raised a stink about it because profanity is prevalent in Twitter. It’s a normal occurance, so it’s not strange that few, if any, who use the service have taken offense to it.
by Forsch31 on Oct 29, 2009 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
There is nothing added to the tweet by using fuck. His point could have been made just as well without it. You see it as more real, I see it as immature. He’s held to a higher standard and he needs to be aware of that. Just because he doesn’t have to see the 8 year old as he’s saying it doesn’t mean that the eight year old isn’t reading it.
"I think the relentless negative coverage in The Washington Post is a real difference from previous years," Redskins general counsel David Donovan said. "But in terms of the way our actual fans are behaving, we don't see any difference."
He can’t be held responsible for the people that choose to view his tweets. He’s also an adult, and adults tend to cuss when frustrated or annoyed.
Maybe play with an edge, be a little more physical -- maybe be more of a prick out there.
by jordanDC on Oct 29, 2009 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
And GreenLife52 could be just a series of pictures of Green on the ice, but he wants the glam shots. Do I care about the glam shots? No. But that’s how he wants to express himself. Sure, there are always other ways to express himself (yourself) but it’s not up to anyone else to tell him how to do that. You don’t like his tweets? Ignore them. You don’t like what OFB writes? Ignore them. You don’t like the comments on CI? Ignore them. He’s a 24 year old professional athlete. How do you expect him to talk. For Christs Sake Blink 182 showed pornography on the side projection screens at their concert back in the day and I don’t even remember people getting worked up about it (yes, this was a concert after Blink 182 went teeny-bopper, the crowd was mostly tweens and their parents). Do you get upset when rock stars curse and use drugs? It’s part of the territory.
/and yeah, I shoulda taken my own advice and ignored all this.
If consequences dictate the course of action, then it doesn't matter what's right, it's only wrong if you get caught. If consequences dictate the course of action, then I should play God...
by Rob Parker on Oct 29, 2009 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Do I get upset about rockstars using drugs, no, I don’t really care. Green cursing every other word when he’s on the ice or talkign to Ovie, whatever. Would I be pissed if I was at a concert with my 12 year old (no I don’t have one) and they were showing porn on the big screen, probably. There is an expectation of decency that is not unreasonable and when people ignore what is perceived as decent because they are lazy, going for shock value, or immature, it disappoints me. Am I going to lose any sleep, absoutely not.
Oh, I more concerned about him having Swine Flu than his vocabulary.
Its about knowing your audience, on twitter you don’t know it. He wouldn’t curse at an autograph signing or when he’s at a middle school, why when he’s tweeting?
"I think the relentless negative coverage in The Washington Post is a real difference from previous years," Redskins general counsel David Donovan said. "But in terms of the way our actual fans are behaving, we don't see any difference."
Because it’s not his responsibility to police his twitter followers. This is his personal outlet, and he expresses himself honestly. Lots of creative entertainers get shut down over this “oh think of the children” crap. Think of your own damn children and monitor their behavior like responsible parents. It’s infuriating.
Maybe play with an edge, be a little more physical -- maybe be more of a prick out there.
by jordanDC on Oct 29, 2009 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Hey now. Monitoring my own kids is NOT my responsibility.
"If you're gonna die after 24, might as well jump out at 23:59, no?"
by Laich It Or Lump It on Oct 29, 2009 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Creative? Fucking swine flu is creative?
No, its raw. Real… therefore awesome and worthy of expressing.
"I think the relentless negative coverage in The Washington Post is a real difference from previous years," Redskins general counsel David Donovan said. "But in terms of the way our actual fans are behaving, we don't see any difference."
I remember when “awe” and “awesome” meant something.
Actually, no I don’t. They’ve been watered down since before I was born.
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Oct 29, 2009 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions
I had an English teacher who used to say that. He said the original definition of awesome was to be completely overwhelmed or inspired by what you are beholding. Now you use it when you like someone’s socks.
"If you're gonna die after 24, might as well jump out at 23:59, no?"
by Laich It Or Lump It on Oct 29, 2009 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe all the Thrashers will have read it and give him a little more room to move through the neutral zone our of fear of him coughing on them.
As for the language, I personally have no issue with it. That said, I can certainly see the point of view of those who do, and I wouldn’t be surprised if mgmt or someone gives him a little you gotta be careful how you say things kinda chat.
Germ warfare. Maybe have Laing deliver a bag of pucks to the opposing dressing room and sneeze on everyone’s locker.
"If you're gonna die after 24, might as well jump out at 23:59, no?"
by Laich It Or Lump It on Oct 29, 2009 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Or maybe like a hand-woven blanket.
Maybe play with an edge, be a little more physical -- maybe be more of a prick out there.
by jordanDC on Oct 29, 2009 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Bruce, being a Yankees fan, had the same idea after the Phillies won last night:
“I’m not happy,” Boudreau said before cracking: “I’m going to go shake hands with Cliff Lee if I see him. Get all our guys. Where’s Quintin?”
Make no little plans; they have no magic to stir men's blood...Make big plans, aim high in hope and work. - Daniel H. Burnham
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by gotsparkly on Oct 29, 2009 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
I’m just surprised all y’all could figure out the word that we partially blurred out.
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you did quote it in the Clips thread. And retweeted it. (it’s probably all over the hockey internet by now.)
And you’re right… Larry Johnson = class act.
"I think the relentless negative coverage in The Washington Post is a real difference from previous years," Redskins general counsel David Donovan said. "But in terms of the way our actual fans are behaving, we don't see any difference."
I do only make $5 an hour… and am worth of being laughed at.
Please don’t revoke my Rink membership J.P.!
"I think the relentless negative coverage in The Washington Post is a real difference from previous years," Redskins general counsel David Donovan said. "But in terms of the way our actual fans are behaving, we don't see any difference."
Exactly
That just speaks to how ubiquitous the word is. My dad is no fan of cursing, but he hates it when people say freaking instead of fucking because it’s stupid and insulting to his intelligence. Everyone knows you want to say fuck.
If consequences dictate the course of action, then it doesn't matter what's right, it's only wrong if you get caught. If consequences dictate the course of action, then I should play God...
by Rob Parker on Oct 29, 2009 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS. Substitute words still carry the spirit of the original. If you’re not against the spirit of the original, then you’re just upset over a particular human sound for no reason and you need a job because you have too much free time to worry about shit.
Maybe play with an edge, be a little more physical -- maybe be more of a prick out there.
Karl Alzner does NOT APPROVE!
Maybe play with an edge, be a little more physical -- maybe be more of a prick out there.
by jordanDC on Oct 29, 2009 2:46 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
My personal solution: don’t ever use twitter.
"If you're gonna die after 24, might as well jump out at 23:59, no?"
by Laich It Or Lump It on Oct 29, 2009 2:46 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
How would you survive the day if you didn’t know what Backstrom had for breakfast?
"I think the relentless negative coverage in The Washington Post is a real difference from previous years," Redskins general counsel David Donovan said. "But in terms of the way our actual fans are behaving, we don't see any difference."
The same way I got through every day of my life so far.
"If you're gonna die after 24, might as well jump out at 23:59, no?"
by Laich It Or Lump It on Oct 29, 2009 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions
He’s fine… his tweet (as I read it) is that he’s got a sniffle and because of all the fear and warnings about swine flu, he’s sub-consciously believing he’s sick – with the swine – when the truth is, he might just have a cold or “the runs”.
If the MSM doesn’t have to follow their own ethics policies, why should be worry about imposing them on players?
I don’t think we should be imposing much of anything on anyone, frankly. But then again, Mike Green isn’t my “asset.”
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I have to say, I’m slightly disappointed that we haven’t been flooded with the haters (haterz?) decrying Green’s lack of morals, his foul mouth, his inappropriate lifestyle choice….
…his poor skating abilities…
"Camaraderie, that's what the Washington Capitals are all about."
by CapitalCentre on Oct 29, 2009 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Or understanding foul-mouthed adults!
Maybe play with an edge, be a little more physical -- maybe be more of a prick out there.
That’s true too. Especially the people on here that grew up playing sports. I remember growing up playing hockey and the coaches and players were cursing by the time I was 11/12ish.
Orunderstanding foul-mouthedadults!
There, fixed that for you.
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I do sometimes wonder if people I meet at games, practice, etc. post on here. Maybe a gang sign would help.
"If you're gonna die after 24, might as well jump out at 23:59, no?"
by Laich It Or Lump It on Oct 29, 2009 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Haha. Nice. I totally just figured out how to make an interlocking “J” and “R” with my hands.
"If you're gonna die after 24, might as well jump out at 23:59, no?"
by Laich It Or Lump It on Oct 29, 2009 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions
why did I mention gang signs when I can’t make them? I’m going to have to settle for shouting “Rink Rat in da hizzy!” on the concourse.
For example, Mike Green has 2,309 followers on Twitter
2,381 an hour later. Ha.
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by J.P. on Oct 29, 2009 3:06 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
why can’t green just be respectful and substitute the word “bleeping” like sean avery did when he was chatting up coach boudreau?
JP, tell the truth, do we get the real word in the book, or just a page full of Avery going “Bleep this, bleep that, you fat bleeping pig”?
Boudreau doesn’t cuss. Haven’t you seen him behind the bench?
Maybe play with an edge, be a little more physical -- maybe be more of a prick out there.
Yea. Like on tuesday when he clearly mouthed “What the fun was that?”
"If you're gonna die after 24, might as well jump out at 23:59, no?"
by Laich It Or Lump It on Oct 29, 2009 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Hey now, why you gotta drag French Canadians into this?
If consequences dictate the course of action, then it doesn't matter what's right, it's only wrong if you get caught. If consequences dictate the course of action, then I should play God...
No, that’s a direct excerpt. I don’t think there’s any foul language in the book at all (none that I can recall). It’s a very positive, motivational type book for sixth graders everyone.
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You know when you think your getting sick but it’s just in your head? [Gretzky] swine flu
Fixed a la Kevin Smith.
"If you're gonna die after 24, might as well jump out at 23:59, no?"
by Laich It Or Lump It on Oct 29, 2009 3:15 PM EDT reply actions
Damn, you beat me to it… :) I did a whole post on this below…
Let's go Caps!
by MikeL-Pivonka on Oct 29, 2009 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions
You know when you think your getting sick but it’s in your head? Fucking swine flu
No, it’s not the most offensive thing an athlete has tweeted this week. Frankly, I’m more concerned that the Norris finalist might not be feeling well.
Obviously, it is very offensive. I mean, we have never read the lips of coaches and players yelling such horrid words.
Anyway, I don’t really think that tweet implies that he’s not feeling well. A couple of weeks ago, when Swine hit my school, everyone started to think they had Swine, were getting Swine, or were going to get Swine even if they were obviously completely healthy. When it starts affecting a lot of people around you, everyone turns into a hypochondriac.
heck, you don’t even need a documented case of swine flu to set everyone off. NO ONE in my office (200+ employees) has swine flu. But a swear 150 of them are convinced they’re coming down with it.
Ha! I know. You don’t have Swine because you have the sniffles from cold and flu season. I don’t think anyone at my school had technically been diagnosed with it, but we knew they had it from whatever the symptoms are. (I think there may be one or two differences between Swine symptoms and seasonal flu symptoms.)
Too much from too many athletes too often. I’m probably in the minority, but I think I liked it a little better when there was a little mystery. I know that Mike Green says F*&#. I just dont want to read about him saying it ( yeah, dont opt in). I dont want to see whats in his fridge, or how he decorated his loft, or that he always dreamed of and now has a Lamborghini. I dont want to see how they got the hot tub up to his balcony with a crane.
I do want to know how he is going to help the CAPS win a cup.
by Direction 87 on Oct 29, 2009 3:43 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
The fact that we pretty much know when our athletes shit and eat is just part of the progression in media. Face it, progression is inevitable. At this point, it’s your responsibility to choose quality and shut out the garbage. For instance, I don’t read ESPN articles about hockey. I just can’t bring myself to do it. Ever.
Oh snap, my avatar is ESPN magazine!
by bigmac1124 on Oct 29, 2009 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
So you’re saying you don’t want to see a video of some douche from OFB riding along with Greenie in his Lambo and doing an interview? You wouldn’t use one of your 5 supposedly professional interview questions to ask him that?
"Let the rest be scared of us." - Sasha Semin
by Scott in Shaw on Oct 29, 2009 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I enjoyed seeing Brooks Laich’s “crib”….
"If you're gonna die after 24, might as well jump out at 23:59, no?"
by Laich It Or Lump It on Oct 29, 2009 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions
"This is the bedroom..."
“This is where the magic doesn’t happen….”
Let's go Caps!
by MikeL-Pivonka on Oct 29, 2009 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions
The fact that he alphabetically organizes his breakfast cereal is what made my girlfriend say she’d leave me for him. I said it was fine as long as I get comped season tickets.
"If you're gonna die after 24, might as well jump out at 23:59, no?"
by Laich It Or Lump It on Oct 29, 2009 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Cursing doesn’t bother me much. What scares me about all of this is that I know that a pretty good number of athletes are dumb as a post. I love having Ovi and Laich and Bradley around because they express themselves so well. I’m not looking forward to the day that we have such good access that we learn that some new kid defenseman prospect is just dumb.
Atta dinnin stick a who!
coughfinleycough
Maybe play with an edge, be a little more physical -- maybe be more of a prick out there.
by jordanDC on Oct 29, 2009 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
He was smart enough to finish getting that free degree instead of coming out early in the hopes of glorious NHL fame and riches.
If consequences dictate the course of action, then it doesn't matter what's right, it's only wrong if you get caught. If consequences dictate the course of action, then I should play God...
LOL!
“We kinda routinely destroy each other’s stuff.” Priceless.
Let's go Caps!
by MikeL-Pivonka on Oct 29, 2009 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Funny, I noticed the F-bomb, even if I wasn’t “bothered” by it.
As far as the “won’t anyone think of the children?!?” angle, well, there are a lot more people than Greenie using that word on twitter…I don’t see it as a big deal at all.
by PaintDrinkingPete on Oct 29, 2009 4:13 PM EDT reply actions
As far as the "won’t anyone think of the children?!?" angle, well, there are a lot more people than Greenie using that word on twitter…I don’t see it as a big deal at all.
This.
Depending on whose statistics you prefer, anywhere from 0 to 1% of Twitter users are under the age of 12. If you’re over the age of 12 and you haven’t seen or heard the word “fuck,” you either live in the bush, on a deserted island, or Amish country (and even then, you probably have heard me yell “hurry the fuck up” behind you dad’s buggy).
Demographic stats here and here and here.
"Let the rest be scared of us." - Sasha Semin
by Scott in Shaw on Oct 29, 2009 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Hmmm....
Well, part of me says that the F-bomb is fine, since it is his Twitter and he can Tweet what he will. Part of me says he shouldn’t only because there are better ways to do this sort of thing than to use the F-bomb.
Last year, the NHL had celebrity bloggers and one of them was Kevin Smith (aka Silent Bob in the View Askewinverse, and the director of all that…) and he frequently likes to use the f-bomb in his writing. Well, the NHL told him to “self-censor” so instead of using the F word, he put “(Gretzky)” into his blog. This made the blog even more humorous than before.
Now most folks know that Kevin Smith is a good bit older than Mike Green, and while Gretzky was a recent player, he retired a decade ago (has it really been that long??? Yes it has!) so Mike could come up with something more hip and up-to-date. Maybe one of these:
“(Crosby) swine flu.”
“(Avery) swine flu.”
“(Pronger) swine flu.” – I think this one will get bonus points from Green.
For a KHL reference, (Jagr) might work…
Just a thought…
Let's go Caps!
I’m thinking Pronger might be the right choice for this, considering Green’s history with the guy… of course Pronger has quite the history.
Let's go Caps!
by MikeL-Pivonka on Oct 29, 2009 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Steal his bit? Screw that.
Maybe play with an edge, be a little more physical -- maybe be more of a prick out there.
Not really, more of paying homage…
Let's go Caps!
by MikeL-Pivonka on Oct 29, 2009 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions
haha you fucked up.
And variety is the spice of life. Plus JP is going to tell us to tone it down at some point.
Maybe play with an edge, be a little more physical -- maybe be more of a prick out there.
I think JP manages the site effectively. Compare the tone of the comments here to, you know, other hockey/sports blogs. This place wins.
by TylerG on Oct 29, 2009 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
So he said a curse word in a Twitter tweet. It is not his responsibility if minors are accessing it, there are these people called parents who have that job if they are so concerned about their child seeing a curse word. What would be a concern about the use of twitter would be an athlete giving out info on health status or like one of the Mystics did over the summer when she disparaged having to go to the season ticket holder event.
I’d be concerned if my child saw you posting without an avatar.
"Let the rest be scared of us." - Sasha Semin
by Scott in Shaw on Oct 29, 2009 6:35 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
I think sometimes folks forget that sports games don’t have a five- or six-second delay so chances are on any given night, you’re hearing some player yelling fuck or shit or fucking shit or something along those lines. It’s just that most of the times you don’t know which player it is.
And I think Shaone Morrisonn said Holy Shit during the paintball video on the Caps Web site.
Plus, remember the colorful interviews that players give from time to time where they let a few fly. Or if you’re John Tortorella, during every post-game interview and press conference. Sure, the TV bleeps them, but every kid knows what they’re saying. Essentially the player is unfiltered. They’re not fined.
I do like how newspapers are sometimes creative in how they censor the players’ obscenities and even at times replacing suck with stink. It’s a good guessing game in what they actually said. Oh, those brackets. How I love thee.
It’s arguable that TV and newspapers are opt-in as well. Change the channel or don’t buy the paper. Usually though when you piss off advertisers because of content, sorry.
Teams and the league have bigger things to worry about, like endorsing alcoholic beverages. Laraque aside, recall that during either Ovechkin or Backstrom’s (maybe both) 21st birthday parties courtesy of Elliot In The Morning, the Caps didn’t allow photos of players with drinks in hand. Only time that’s allowed is when they’re popping the bubbly and suds with the Cup.
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