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Can he buy a break? Cripes.
"I'm just doing karate and trying to get females pregnant."
by Bald Pollack on Oct 28, 2009 11:43 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
No. He gets his breaks the old fashioned way. By throwing his body in front of moving pucks.
If consequences dictate the course of action, then it doesn't matter what's right, it's only wrong if you get caught. If consequences dictate the course of action, then I should play God...
by Fehr and Balanced on Oct 28, 2009 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
what about in front of moving flu viruses?
by RedBirdie on Oct 28, 2009 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Guy always manages to take one for the team.
If consequences dictate the course of action, then it doesn't matter what's right, it's only wrong if you get caught. If consequences dictate the course of action, then I should play God...
by Fehr and Balanced on Oct 28, 2009 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He was going to get vaccinated to protect against H1N1, but he blocked the shot.
Groan.
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by J.P. on Oct 28, 2009 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Decided to take up your own Twitter challenge, eh?
"Let the rest be scared of us." - Sasha Semin
by Scott in Shaw on Oct 28, 2009 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It tested well there, so I figured it deserved a wider audience.
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by J.P. on Oct 28, 2009 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Holy Toledo.
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by Your Nation's Capital on Oct 28, 2009 11:43 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Is there a reason why pro athletes don’t get vaccinated? My girlfriend brought this question up when we had guys sick last year, and it baffled me.
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by jordanDC on Oct 28, 2009 11:47 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Those vaccinations are a joke. Especially for men in as good a shape as the Caps. It can actually make you sick…what it is there for is to protect children and high risks from a full hospitalized heavy outbreak.
by SA-Town on Oct 28, 2009 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m not sure they’re a joke, but then again there’s hardly a consensus around them. Read about in the November Atlantic.
(sorry for the plug JP, just seemed relevant)
by treat on Oct 28, 2009 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
By all means – shameless promotion (when relevant) is always welcome here.
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by J.P. on Oct 28, 2009 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You work for the Atlantic? They’re the best.
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Oct 28, 2009 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I do. I was even able to work in that photo of Bradley viciously pounding Voros a few years ago. Subscribe!
In the interest of shameless promotion, the aforementioned article by Shannon Brownlee and Jeanne Lenzer.
by treat on Oct 28, 2009 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Subscribe!
Too late…
(Atlantic subscriptions have actually been my gift to my parents, in-laws, brother, brother-in-law, and two friends the last few holidays)
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Oct 28, 2009 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Subscribe!
A subscription to The Atlantic may have been my first blogger freebie from a reader. Coincidentally, it’s also one of the last blogger freebies I’ve gotten from a reader. Bunch of cheap bastiches…
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by J.P. on Oct 28, 2009 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
what our unconditional love, elitist as it may be, isn’t enough? Greedy bastich!
by RedBirdie on Oct 28, 2009 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Find me a potentate who’s satisfied and I’ll show you one who is about to be deposed.
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by J.P. on Oct 28, 2009 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Two more data points for why this is the smartest hockey audience out there. But then, you knew that already.
by treat on Oct 28, 2009 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
O.K. Now that you’ve given props to The Atlantic, I’m going to let you off the hook for your rather rough treatment of Gene Robinson :)
by mechanicsville on Oct 28, 2009 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The modern form of injectable flu vaccination contains only inactive virus. It won’t make you sick.
by David M. Getz on Oct 28, 2009 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
But there is some legitimate doubt about whether or not it will prevent you from getting sick as well.
by treat on Oct 28, 2009 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rec’d for truth.
"Let the rest be scared of us." - Sasha Semin
by Scott in Shaw on Oct 28, 2009 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s supposed to be. Inactivating the virus without deforming the outer proteins (which will make the vaccination useless) can be a tricky business, so there’s often a few virus particles that are still active in the mix. Often there aren’t enough to make a mess, but there have been cases of people getting sick from the vaccine.
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by gotsparkly on Oct 28, 2009 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, like me, when I developed measles from an MMR vaccine. Was sucktacular.
by RedBirdie on Oct 28, 2009 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
True in terms of the disease that it is vaccinating against. if done correctly. However, vaccinations can cause interesting reactions to one’s immune system in rare cases. Like anything else safe doesn’t necessarily imply no risk at all.
by CP2Devil on Oct 28, 2009 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The modern form of injectable flu vaccination contains only inactive virus. It won’t make you sick.
It contains nano thought-control technology to make you sign up for socialized health care, though.
"You're gonna eat that g**d**n Koho, three!"
by fat_daddyo on Oct 28, 2009 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
True, but that’s a wholly separate issue isn’t it?
by David M. Getz on Oct 28, 2009 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
there’s a limited amount of the vaccine available at this time, and its being held to immunize at risk groups. Healthy male athletes aren’t high on the priority list.
by RedBirdie on Oct 28, 2009 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I could have gotten it at CVS last week if I wanted..
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by jordanDC on Oct 28, 2009 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
the H1N1 specific, or the regular flu vaccine?
by RedBirdie on Oct 28, 2009 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They had both. Would have gotten it but I’m an impatient jerk and the line was 15 deep.. and I had somewhere to be.
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by jordanDC on Oct 28, 2009 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would have done the same, but it’s funny to think about it:
Wait in line or risk health.
Bah, I’ll take my chances!
by TFG on Oct 28, 2009 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Honestly, I’d rather take my chances and reserve the vaccine for those who truly need it. I’ll survive flu, most likely. Not everyone will.
Never lie, steal, cheat, or drink. But, if you must lie, lie in the arms of the one you love. If you must steal, steal away from bad company. If you must cheat, cheat death. If you must drink, drink in the moments that take your breath away.
by gotsparkly on Oct 28, 2009 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is my line of thinking as well. It helps me justify my laziness.
"If you're gonna die after 24, might as well jump out at 23:59, no?"
by Laich It Or Lump It on Oct 28, 2009 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I have the immune system of a wet paper towel. I need to get one or both of them pretty soon probably.. already had a sinus infection and bronchitis in the last month or so. sigh.
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by jordanDC on Oct 28, 2009 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
H1N1 – since 1977. That’s why mostly young are being affected therewith. Better now than March, or April.
But Brawndo's got what plants crave. It's got electrolytes.
by hotdog88gt on Oct 28, 2009 11:49 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Laing’s not in the high-risk demographic.
by David M. Getz on Oct 28, 2009 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
" therewith"…Now there’s a word you don’t see every day!
by mechanicsville on Oct 28, 2009 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, not everyone is as verbose as the elite denizens of The Rink.
by SethB on Oct 28, 2009 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
All I want to know is why the reputation of such a fine animal has to be repeatedly besmirched in this way. Let’s stick with “H1N1”… and pass the pork.
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by J.P. on Oct 28, 2009 11:50 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
hasn’t stopped me from eating some form of pork for the past 4 days in a row. The impending heart attack may, but calling it swine flu has not.
by FFSEnough on Oct 28, 2009 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s only fair, since pigs (according to some tales) caught the virus that is now “H1N1” from humans in the pandemic of 1918.
If you've read this far...seek help.
by ThePeerless on Oct 28, 2009 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Human flu.
I'm so sick and tired of the refs explaining the calls like this is the NFL.
by Whiter Mage on Oct 28, 2009 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
and pass the pork.
I guess you aren’t that kind of jew?
"If you're gonna die after 24, might as well jump out at 23:59, no?"
by Laich It Or Lump It on Oct 28, 2009 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Me neither. I’d stop eating pork if it wasn’t so delicious.
I'm so sick and tired of the refs explaining the calls like this is the NFL.
by Whiter Mage on Oct 28, 2009 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It does come from a wonderful, magical animal after all.
Sometimes I think I could do without pork (I’m not chosen), but, on the other hand, bacon.
by grapejoos on Oct 28, 2009 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nope. Not that kind.
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by J.P. on Oct 28, 2009 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
See, now here’s the plane I’m looking for from my hockey blog!!
by mechanicsville on Oct 28, 2009 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Keep him away from the good players…
by JimCareyFanClub on Oct 28, 2009 12:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Ho boy. It won’t kill him, but he’s out for a minimum of seven days if the Caps are smart, and I have no reason to think they’re not. I believe the quarantine period is 7 days or 24 hours after fever breaks, whichever is longer.
I wonder if they’ll ban the media from the locker room until they’re sure it’s just him. I would in their shoes.
Never lie, steal, cheat, or drink. But, if you must lie, lie in the arms of the one you love. If you must steal, steal away from bad company. If you must cheat, cheat death. If you must drink, drink in the moments that take your breath away.
by gotsparkly on Oct 28, 2009 12:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
They’re not. He’s gone, it’s been sterilized, and they’re making all media use hand sani before entering. Hopefully it’s enough.
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by J.P. on Oct 28, 2009 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hmmmm. All the hand sani in the world doesn’t help against coughs and sneezes. I’ll cross my fingers, though.
Never lie, steal, cheat, or drink. But, if you must lie, lie in the arms of the one you love. If you must steal, steal away from bad company. If you must cheat, cheat death. If you must drink, drink in the moments that take your breath away.
by gotsparkly on Oct 28, 2009 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sanitize those fingers first.
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by jordanDC on Oct 28, 2009 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So if ALL the Caps catch swine flu, THEN does Nylander get in a game?
by Stormblue on Oct 28, 2009 12:25 PM EDT reply actions 4 recs
No.
"Let the rest be scared of us." - Sasha Semin
by Scott in Shaw on Oct 28, 2009 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think they’re rather field a team made up of the Reston Red Raiders’ Mites
by RedBirdie on Oct 28, 2009 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
They’ve got a hot young goaltender, I hear.
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by Your Nation's Capital on Oct 28, 2009 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Booo Reston!
/former Chief
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by jordanDC on Oct 28, 2009 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m a sucker for all manner of Red Raider. Long live the Red Raiders!
If consequences dictate the course of action, then it doesn't matter what's right, it's only wrong if you get caught. If consequences dictate the course of action, then I should play God...
by Fehr and Balanced on Oct 28, 2009 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
My flatmate had swine flu about a month ago. This is bad news bears.
"My face is my mask."
by jakeshapiro on Oct 28, 2009 12:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
guy in my section had swine flu during the Penguins series. Exposed a bunch of us. Somehow, none of us came down with it.
by RedBirdie on Oct 28, 2009 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What a jerk that guy is.
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by jordanDC on Oct 28, 2009 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
in his defense, he didn’t know. he had the sniffles for game 2. feels awful the next day, goes to doc, test shows he has swine flu. got better in time for the game 7 debacle.
by RedBirdie on Oct 28, 2009 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That’s good, then.
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by jordanDC on Oct 28, 2009 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
swine flu
as long as this thread is about swine flu, this will give you food for thought. This is for the truly open minded.
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2009/10/27/Obama-Declares-Swine-Flu-Emergency.aspx
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by Sidehillman on Oct 28, 2009 12:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I have something in common with Q? Awesome.
by sixsevenfiftysix on Oct 28, 2009 12:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Not what anyone would have chosen….
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by gotsparkly on Oct 28, 2009 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’d rather have his H1N1 than his teeth (or lack thereof).
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by J.P. on Oct 28, 2009 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or his spleen injury, I bet…
Let's go Caps!
by MikeL-Caps on Oct 28, 2009 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Reminds me – Did they repair his spleen or take it out?
by CP2Devil on Oct 28, 2009 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Splenectomy, I believe. Does that adversely impact his immunity?
Fight, you time-wasting figure skaters!
by boutros23 on Oct 28, 2009 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You were thinking along the same lines as I was. Yes it would.
by CP2Devil on Oct 28, 2009 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, places you at an increased risk of infections.
by RedBirdie on Oct 28, 2009 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
‘Twas a repair of the spleen, so he still has it, but’s still kinda banged up.
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by Your Nation's Capital on Oct 28, 2009 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Anybody notice B-Mo has a similar grimace? I like it.
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by jordanDC on Oct 28, 2009 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
my family and i just got over H1N1. it’s really been overblown by the media. it’s no worse than your ordinary seasonal flu IMHO. swine flu and H1N1 are actually different things. i wouldn’t worry about it too much.
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by RedskinFan4Life on Oct 28, 2009 1:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
it’s really been overblown by the media. it’s no worse than your ordinary seasonal flu IMHO.
I believe the issue isn’t so much the seriousness of each individual case, but the fact that it’s quite contagious.
swine flu and H1N1 are actually different things. i wouldn’t worry about it too much.
I don’t believe this is true. H1N1 is a form of the flu virus; “swine flu” is a form of H1N1. Ergo all “swine flu” is H1N1, but not all H1N1 is swine flu – or at least that’s my understanding.
by David M. Getz on Oct 28, 2009 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
All squares are rectangles..
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by jordanDC on Oct 28, 2009 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The rhombus is by far the best of all parallelograms, and anyone that wants to assert the contrary better be prepared for fisticuffs (in 2-4 weeks, God-willing).
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by Fehr and Balanced on Oct 28, 2009 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Still in pain, but it’s buried under a narcotic fog. The worst part is right when I wake up because all the pain killers wear off while I sleep.
If consequences dictate the course of action, then it doesn't matter what's right, it's only wrong if you get caught. If consequences dictate the course of action, then I should play God...
by Fehr and Balanced on Oct 28, 2009 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ugh, that’s the worst feeling ever. still stuck on the makeshift couch?
by RedBirdie on Oct 28, 2009 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yup. I was all excited to watch the Caps game on demand again today but stupid Comcast the on demand channel isn’t working.
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by Fehr and Balanced on Oct 28, 2009 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wanna borrow my gopher?
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by jordanDC on Oct 28, 2009 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I need one, that’s for sure.
If consequences dictate the course of action, then it doesn't matter what's right, it's only wrong if you get caught. If consequences dictate the course of action, then I should play God...
by Fehr and Balanced on Oct 28, 2009 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t really have one. I was making light of your situation. I’m sorry.
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by jordanDC on Oct 28, 2009 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I figured it was a joke. No need for apologies.
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by Fehr and Balanced on Oct 28, 2009 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I believe its both the severity of symptoms, contagiousness, and the concern that it hits younger, more healthy individuals severely unlike garden variety strains of influenza
H1N1 is what people are referring to as the swine flu. There have been other strains of from in the past considered to be of swine origin. H1N1 refers to the strain that was first discovered in Mexico earlier this year. For all intent purposes the terms are interchangable right now.
by CP2Devil on Oct 28, 2009 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
H1N1 is a common strain of influenza A. The Swine Flu epidemic of 2009 is due to a specific mutation of H1N1. The spanish flu of 1918 was also an H1N1 mutation, as were several smaller epidemics and various years’ seasonal flu.
Swine flu, in a more generic sense, can refer to any strain that infects pigs, such as influenza A strains H1N1, H1N2, H3N1, H3N2, and H2N3, and influenza C.
by ennisj471 on Oct 28, 2009 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
My understanding is that swine flu is so weak it causes the body to overreact and destroy itself…like the Caps killing themselves by playing down to an opponent.
by red army line on Oct 28, 2009 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s been just slightly more deadly than seasonal flu, IIRC. Influenza does kill a couple thousand people each year worldwide — which is still a very low proportion of the people who get infected.
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by CapitalCentre on Oct 28, 2009 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Swine flu killed a 13-year old hockey player just a couple of days ago. (Don’t remember where, and you’ll have to google the links yerself). Relevant because Quintin’s teammates Aucoin and Giroux (and Coach Evason) went to a middle school on Monday to give a hockey clinic.
Don’t eff around w/swine flu.
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by Your Nation's Capital on Oct 28, 2009 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and the vast majority of deaths from flu happen to those with compromised immune systems. In addition to the usual risk groups (elderly, infants, and others with aforementioned immune problems), H1N1 seems to disproportionally affect the under-25 cohort, who usually are better able to fight off infection.
by RedBirdie on Oct 28, 2009 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, the big deal is who its hitting harder. Most of the people who die from seasonal flu tend to be older and have other underlying medical conditions. While underlying medical conditions are also a concern for H1N1 what has concerned most public health officials is the numbers of people under 65 who have had to be hospitalized and/or have died. I believe CDC’s numbers are that 93% of hospitalizations have involved people under 65.
by CP2Devil on Oct 28, 2009 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You’re all right, my point was that it is empirically at least a little worse than seasonal flu.
Here’s the story on the junior hockey player: http://www.lfpress.com/news/london/2009/10/28/11548751-sun.html
It seems there have also been cases reported in Colorado and Edmonton.
Obviously I hope Q recovers quickly and doesn’t infect the rest of the team.
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by CapitalCentre on Oct 28, 2009 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
H1N1 is mostly govt & media hype to help the drug companies sell untested , dangerous vaccine.
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by Sidehillman on Oct 28, 2009 2:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If you’re going to say the government is making a conscious effort to overstate the problem to push vaccines, you better bring some evidence.
And the vaccine’s been tested.
And it’s made the same way seasonal flu vaccines are made, just with a different virus.
by David M. Getz on Oct 28, 2009 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
see above
I did above, but here it is again. I for one don’t drink the Govt’s kool aid
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by Sidehillman on Oct 28, 2009 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Of course a proponent of “natural health products” is going to rail against vaccination. Try again.
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by jordanDC on Oct 28, 2009 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
before dismissing out of hand you should read the information & all the supporting evidence. Also, see what CBS—-part of the “evil media empire”—-is doing to try to get to the truth on the faux testing & being stonewalled completely by CDC.
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by Sidehillman on Oct 28, 2009 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think the ironic thing here is that you have groups/people – the National Vaccine Information Center and a natural health supplier – who have a very clear agenda and a very clear set of incentives are constructing elaborate scenarios to push the idea that someone else is trying to manipulate the situation.
by David M. Getz on Oct 28, 2009 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Meanwhile gullible old people and parents of children buy into it and put themselves and their children, high-risk folks already, at greater risk. Disturbing.
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by jordanDC on Oct 28, 2009 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's a cookbook!
Today, institutions as diverse as the American Medical Association; the Centers for Disease Control; the Institute of Medicine, a division of the National Academy of Sciences; and the World Health Organization have linked nontherapeutic antibiotic use on factory farms with increased antimicrobial resistance and called for a ban.
Still, the factory farm industry has effectively opposed such a ban in the United States. And, unsurprisingly, the limited bans in other countries are only a limited solution.
There is a glaring reason that the necessary total ban on nontherapeutic use of antibiotics hasn’t happened: The factory farm industry, allied with the pharmaceutical industry, has more power than public-health professionals.
..Today, the factory farm-pandemic link couldn’t be more lucid. The primary ancestor of the recent H1N1 swine flu outbreak originated at a hog factory farm in America’s most hog-factory-rich state, North Carolina, and then quickly spread throughout the Americas.
It was in these factory farms that scientists saw, for the first time, viruses that combined genetic material from bird, pig and human viruses. Scientists at Columbia and Princeton Universities have actually been able to trace six of the eight genetic segments of the most feared virus in the world directly to U.S. factory farms.
An opinion piece by a young idealist who is hawking a book on CNN
by Icebat on Oct 28, 2009 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That’s one of the dumber things I’ve read today, and I’ve already been through the Puck Daddy comments. He is right that overuse of antibioltics leads to an increase in resistant strains, but a virus is a different animal altogether, not really being living according to the definition of life in the biological science world. Antibiotics don’t work on viruses or viral infections and never have, that’s not news. Linking the two is silly.
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by gotsparkly on Oct 29, 2009 5:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I see them as two separate points in the same article, one being that preventative antibiotic use on farms is bad and the other that the environment provides opportunities for new viruses to grow because of their unsanitary conditions.
by David M. Getz on Oct 29, 2009 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
“Drinking the kool-aid” and “using objective facts to analyze a situation and reach a conclusion” are completely different things.
Fact: the media made this a bigger deal than it probably is because it’s a good story and because the media peddles bad news to get viewers/readers.
Fact: the vaccine’s been tested.
Fact: the vaccine’s made the same way seasonal vaccines are made, and while nothing is 100% safe, it’s not any more dangerous.
Fact: there’s not any legitimate evidence that there’s some government conspiracy to promote vaccinations.
Fact: that website is parroting/shilling/affiliated with the National Vaccine Information Center, which pushes an anti-vaccine agenda.
It defies logic to think that the fact that an organization devoted to one specific cause taking a stance on an issue that just so happens to re-enforce their raison d’etre is a trustworthy source. Why does “drinking their kool aid” make any more sense?
by David M. Getz on Oct 28, 2009 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
Rec’d for wrecking ass with a dump-truck of info.
Maybe play with an edge, be a little more physical -- maybe be more of a prick out there.
by jordanDC on Oct 28, 2009 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have absolutely no reason to believe that the government, or anyone else for that matter, is acting in bad faith in this situation. I want to take issue with one point:
Fact: the vaccine’s been tested.
True. But it’s only been tested in cohort studies, which are prone to bias. I’m not saying it doesn’t work, but the testing is far from conclusive.
by treat on Oct 28, 2009 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’ll risk it.
Maybe play with an edge, be a little more physical -- maybe be more of a prick out there.
by jordanDC on Oct 28, 2009 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You missed one
Fact: The government is not competent enough to organize and carry-out such a widespread domestic mis-information campaign.
Then again, the greatest trick the Devil ever pulled…
If consequences dictate the course of action, then it doesn't matter what's right, it's only wrong if you get caught. If consequences dictate the course of action, then I should play God...
by Fehr and Balanced on Oct 28, 2009 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
any post that contains “I for one don’t drink the Govt’s kool aid” instantly brings to mind guys in tin foil hats.
by RedBirdie on Oct 28, 2009 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not a good way to frame a legit argument.
Maybe play with an edge, be a little more physical -- maybe be more of a prick out there.
by jordanDC on Oct 28, 2009 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I once wore a tin foil hat...
…but I took it off after Halloween ended. I was about 10 and trying to be a “Baseball Player of the Future”. So I took one of those cheap plastic batting helmets, covered it in aluminum foil (ok, not tin foil) to make part of the costume…
Let's go Caps!
by MikeL-Caps on Oct 28, 2009 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Where are the damn flying cars already?
Maybe play with an edge, be a little more physical -- maybe be more of a prick out there.
by jordanDC on Oct 28, 2009 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They’ve been banned to protect the charm of the phrase, “Roads? Where we’re going we don’t need roads”.
by David M. Getz on Oct 28, 2009 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Nice.
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by J.P. on Oct 28, 2009 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They’re right next to the teleporters.
Let's go Caps!
by MikeL-Caps on Oct 28, 2009 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Would you drink it if Jesus turned it to wine first?
by Gin and Tonic on Oct 28, 2009 3:05 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 5 recs
lolin’ and recin’
Maybe play with an edge, be a little more physical -- maybe be more of a prick out there.
by jordanDC on Oct 28, 2009 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s unfortunate that non-Americans have gotten this virus. It’s our problem here in America, so it just doesn’t seem fair.
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by Brad_Richards_Rocks on Oct 28, 2009 4:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Swine Flue is way overblown
Seriously, my Fiancee has been sleeping with a pig for years, literally. And she’s fine.
If consequences dictate the course of action, then it doesn't matter what's right, it's only wrong if you get caught. If consequences dictate the course of action, then I should play God...
by Fehr and Balanced on Oct 28, 2009 4:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
nyuk nyuk nyuk
Maybe play with an edge, be a little more physical -- maybe be more of a prick out there.
by jordanDC on Oct 28, 2009 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
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