Wednesday Caps Clips: Five W's in a Row
by J.P. on Oct 28, 2009 6:44 AM EDT
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Your savory breakfast links:
- Recaps and other assorted musings on last night's win from Corey (blog, article), Tarik (blog, article), Vogs, Joe B., Peerless, OFB, Ed Frankovic, Puck Daddy, Cap Centre (and here), The Two-Line Pass and Hockey Mom from the Caps' side, and Broad Street Hockey (go read it), Tim Panaccio, Chuck Gormley, and the Philly Inquirer.
- More pictures from the game. [Tic Tac Toe Hockey (great Mike Richards and Ray Emery shots), Caps In Pictures]
- The Caps are up to second overall in this week's SBN power rankings. [SBN]
- Steve Kolbe "Takes 5" with 55. [Capitals (audio)]
- "Slapshots" with Brooks Laich. [CSN Washington]
- Tomas Fleischmann is working his way back to D.C. [John Walton Hockey]
- Braden Holtby gets some serious love. [NHL.com]
- Speaking of goalies, an interview with Stretch. [Rock The Red.net]
- Stefan Della Rovere will protect Ontario from the Russians. [Barrie Examiner]
- The NHL is now on Facebook. Friend it or do whatever it is you kids do in such situations. [Facebook]
- An update on Matt Pettinger's comeback efforts. [Winnipeg Sun]
- Finally, happy 43rd birthday to Cap-for-nine-games Benoit Hogue.
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How did I miss the holidays? Feels like March after last night.
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by Bald Pollack on Oct 28, 2009 7:17 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Did anyone catch.....
….Semin on the bench after he scored his goal saying “I don’t know, it hit his shin pad.”
When Versus showed him and OV on the bench, you could tell he definitely said that. I just wanted to see if anyone else saw it or thought he said something else.
by Link_Gaetz on Oct 28, 2009 8:06 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Lips weren’t obviously readable to me, but his general demeanor definitely suggested that he was a little surprised with the shot. He needs to shoot as often as he did in that game every game.
Maybe play with an edge, be a little more physical -- maybe be more of a prick out there.
by jordanDC on Oct 28, 2009 8:25 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I didn’t see it (was at the game), but are you sure? They don’t speak much English to one another.
That said, I thought it caught something (I had thought stick) soon after release.
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by J.P. on Oct 28, 2009 8:31 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Speculation from the commentary guys was that it grazed a shin pad. The shot was a bit of a wobbler in slo-mo, so it’s likely.
Maybe play with an edge, be a little more physical -- maybe be more of a prick out there.
by jordanDC on Oct 28, 2009 8:33 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Like I said, I thought it caught something. Still a flippin’ missile.
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by J.P. on Oct 28, 2009 8:37 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Beauty shot, eh
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by jordanDC on Oct 28, 2009 8:39 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tough shot for Emery to stop but the first two weren’t. If Theo was playing goal for the Flyers, Philadelphia would have won. After watching Emery for several games, I’ll go out on a limb and say the Flyers will not win a Cup with him in goal.
by b.orr4 on Oct 28, 2009 9:14 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ovie’s first goal definitely was headed low, hit Timo’s stick and fluttered over Emery’s shoulder. Not sure I can blame him too much for that. Nick’s though…
"I think the relentless negative coverage in The Washington Post is a real difference from previous years," Redskins general counsel David Donovan said. "But in terms of the way our actual fans are behaving, we don't see any difference."
by Sct112 on Oct 28, 2009 9:18 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The secret to beating Emery seems to be fluttery shots. Or just shots on net.
Maybe play with an edge, be a little more physical -- maybe be more of a prick out there.
by jordanDC on Oct 28, 2009 9:19 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Flyers have been looking for a solid goalkeeper for the last 20+ years. My guess is they’re still looking. Aside from the goals last night, Emery was allowing some hellacious rebounds.
by b.orr4 on Oct 28, 2009 9:27 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They should dig up Robert Esche, Roman Chechmanec, and Jeff Hackett.. and just pile them all up in front of the goal.
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by jordanDC on Oct 28, 2009 9:31 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Robert Esche: Product of Central New York. Goalie coach for Colgate University for a period during the lock out. No longer NHL caliber goalie.
If consequences dictate the course of action, then it doesn't matter what's right, it's only wrong if you get caught. If consequences dictate the course of action, then I should play God...
by Fehr and Balanced on Oct 28, 2009 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
NOBODY is arguing that.
Maybe play with an edge, be a little more physical -- maybe be more of a prick out there.
by jordanDC on Oct 28, 2009 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But all three of them combined! In one freakish contiguous set of pads…
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Oct 28, 2009 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
A constant rolling sextuple-pad stack..
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by jordanDC on Oct 28, 2009 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agree with you on the rebounds.
After watching the replays of the goals in the second, I have to give him a pass on the AO goal. That guy, in tight, on a probably tipped shot is a tall order for any goalie.
19’s goal should have been stopped.
The Semin goal was a deflection, but still gets stopped by a good goalie on his game.
"You're gonna eat that g**d**n Koho, three!"
by fat_daddyo on Oct 28, 2009 9:34 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Emery said he didn’t even see Ovi ’til the puck was already on its way. (Quote from one of the Philly papers in the Clips above)
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by Your Nation's Capital on Oct 28, 2009 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he should have heard him coming…OV bashed the ice with his stick on his stroll down the slot. Easy money for Backs.
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by bigonetimer on Oct 28, 2009 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I disagree that Semin’s goal is at all the fault of Emery. It was a rocket shot through a screen, off a shin pad and right under the crossbar. That shot goes in far more often than not on any goalie.
Of all our iniquities ignorance may be the worst
by Killer_Carlson on Oct 28, 2009 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I submit it beats anyone every time.
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by jordanDC on Oct 28, 2009 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It also was deflected soon after release, altering its course slightly.
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by J.P. on Oct 28, 2009 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Putting shots on net seems to be the first step to beating any goaltender. Funny how that works, there.
Interesting that Ray Emery was lights-out until he ran smack-dab into the Caps. Admittedly small sample size, but before the first Caps game, he was .962 and 1.0 GAA; after, he ran .886 and 3.16 GAA. Brian Boucher’s only played once in goal, though why they put their backup goalie in against the Sharks in his first start of the season is a mystery to me.
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by gotsparkly on Oct 28, 2009 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
isn’t that the secret to beating most goalies anyway?
Rock the Red! Rock the White! Rock the Blue! Rock the Pens!
by RedskinFan4Life on Oct 28, 2009 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe right about Philly’s chances with Emery. But geez they have scary depth at the forward positions.
by Fehrskine on Oct 28, 2009 9:21 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They had six 20 goal scorers last year right? They’ve lost a few of those guys, but that is some solid balance.
"I think the relentless negative coverage in The Washington Post is a real difference from previous years," Redskins general counsel David Donovan said. "But in terms of the way our actual fans are behaving, we don't see any difference."
by Sct112 on Oct 28, 2009 9:22 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If Theo was playing goal for the Flyers, Philadelphia would have won.
And there were four shots that hit posts — three of them behind Theo. Those go in and the Flyers win.
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Oct 28, 2009 9:33 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And if the refs counted the AO-non-goal. And if the Caps’ post went in. And it. And if. And if.
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by Fehr and Balanced on Oct 28, 2009 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought it went through Timonen’s legs and caught a piece of shin pad going through.
by Jarmo55 on Oct 28, 2009 9:31 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Let me check the replay on that..Oh wait, I can’t. I have DirecTV.
by b.orr4 on Oct 28, 2009 9:38 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
HA! Shot was to the left side of the D… it looked to me like it grazed the outside of his shin pad, and still projected upward. the shot was by emery before he even reacted, which leads me to believe he never saw it.
by Scofield on Oct 28, 2009 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sometimes when a goal is made, the skater reacts immediately.
I noticed in the replay that Semin took a good moment to process and register that he had scored, as he skated off to the left past the net.
by localhead on Oct 28, 2009 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can’t remember what call it was, I think it was the almost-goal, but at one point the camera cut to Gabby and you could clearly read the words “What the fuck is that?!” Fun times.
"My face is my mask."
by jakeshapiro on Oct 28, 2009 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, he was upset that Pronger put Ovie on his face from behind.
Maybe play with an edge, be a little more physical -- maybe be more of a prick out there.
by jordanDC on Oct 28, 2009 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bruce has wonderfully expressive language, and very easy to read lips.
by RedBirdie on Oct 28, 2009 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
can’t deny BB’s passion — that’s what I love about him. he brings a fire to the team that I haven’t seen from previous coaches in all my years as a Caps fan….
Rock the Red! Rock the White! Rock the Blue! Rock the Pens!
by RedskinFan4Life on Oct 28, 2009 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
There are many around here who would disagree with you, or who at the very least would like to see that fire converted into greater discipline and focus.
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Oct 28, 2009 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Re: the Canada-Russia juniors series, which Caps prospects are we expecting to be on WJC teams? Orlov? Johansson? Della Rovere? Carlson? Is that the whole kit and kaboodle?
by TylerG on Oct 28, 2009 8:28 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Did Kugryshev go to juniors or to the KHL?
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by gotsparkly on Oct 28, 2009 8:43 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He’s in Quebec Juniors, if memory serves.
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by Bald Pollack on Oct 28, 2009 8:45 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, Quebec Ramparts. 15GP, 4-10-14, +4.
by TylerG on Oct 28, 2009 8:47 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
~PPG, welcome to North America young man.
"I think the relentless negative coverage in The Washington Post is a real difference from previous years," Redskins general counsel David Donovan said. "But in terms of the way our actual fans are behaving, we don't see any difference."
by Sct112 on Oct 28, 2009 9:04 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he was with Quebec last year too, and about a PPG scorer if memory serves. And very good in the playoffs.
by Fehrskine on Oct 28, 2009 9:25 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nice to see that +4
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by jordanDC on Oct 28, 2009 9:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
There’s an article in the Clips above ^ talking about SDR and Team Canada.
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by Your Nation's Capital on Oct 28, 2009 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Eakin is making a case for himself.
Gustafsson is eligible.
Patrick Wey attended the USA Hockey August dev. camp in Lake Placid. IMO, a longshot to make the team, but on the radar.
Players with a birthyear of ’90 or later are eligible.
by sk84fun_dc on Oct 28, 2009 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Eakin is, but how oft does an overage guy make his debut for Canada in teh WJC? I know this year is a little different because nine eligible Canadians are in the NHL, but…
BabyGus is eligible. So is my 19-year old American cousin, who plays roller hockey. Both seem equally likely to be on their respective WJC teams.
by TylerG on Oct 28, 2009 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Eakin is not an overager; he’s a ‘91; he was drafted in the NHL draft the first year he was eligible. He played well in a tourney representing Canada, I think it was the U18 tourney, and was an injury replacement at the Hockey Canada WJC summer camp so he is being considered. His play to date this season is only going to help him during Hockey Canada’s decision-making.
And fwiw, an overager would not be eligible. Overagers in the CHL this season are ’89s (for example, Broda) and ’89s are not eligible.
by sk84fun_dc on Oct 28, 2009 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Ah, thanks for the correction/knowledge. Anything dealing with birthdays and hockey confuses the snot outta me (obviously).
by TylerG on Oct 28, 2009 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The tourney is the U20 WJC.
Why make a comment like that about Eakin if you acknowledge not knowing the details about this stuff?
by sk84fun_dc on Oct 28, 2009 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thanked you for the correction/help. Not enough?
by TylerG on Oct 28, 2009 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am not trying to make a big deal about it, just I was confused as to the direction your post was leading given your follow-up post acknowledging the lack of info.
Again to clarify one point, a lot of NHL followers get confused about WJC U20 eligibility because it is not the same as draft eligibility. WJC20 eligibility is based on birthyear, so anyone born earlier than 1990 is not eligible this year. Players like Colin Wilson and Van Reimsdyk who played last year are not eligible for Team USA this year.
by sk84fun_dc on Oct 28, 2009 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Thx as always for the 411, sk8.
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by J.P. on Oct 28, 2009 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You are welcome. Hopefully the info. is useful to some posters.
To continue my comments, I was only listing players that are on the radar for their respective teams. If I wanted to list all the Caps prospects that are eligible the list would have been longer. Including a JP favorite like Mestery. The only other player I considered listing is Greg Burke, but definitely a longshot.
by sk84fun_dc on Oct 28, 2009 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Anybody catch Mike Richards cheap shot punching Backstrom in the face during the scrum at the Flyers goal? Didnt Richards whine about Ovie last year taking cheap shots? Have to love how Backie responded though…
by Direction 87 on Oct 28, 2009 9:02 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Equivalents: Richards whining about cheap shots. Brian Burke complaining about truculence.
by TylerG on Oct 28, 2009 9:11 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yea. he like headlocked nicky’s face..but i love the way nick went back after him….just look who ended up on the ground – that should tell you all you need to know.
by aaw6848 on Oct 28, 2009 9:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I didn’t see that, only caught a little of the 3rd. Is there a clip of that online somewhere?
by Bman21212 on Oct 28, 2009 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nick’s tougher than he gets credit for.
Maybe play with an edge, be a little more physical -- maybe be more of a prick out there.
by jordanDC on Oct 28, 2009 9:14 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
It’s easy to get swept up in those beautiful blonde locks…
by aaw6848 on Oct 28, 2009 9:15 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Still envious.
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by jordanDC on Oct 28, 2009 9:19 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Those was the first words out of my wife’s mouth last night when she saw Nik without his helmet.
by b.orr4 on Oct 28, 2009 9:29 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They don’t call him “Super Swede” for nothing (althought the winged helmet thing is a bit much)
If you've read this far...seek help.
by ThePeerless on Oct 28, 2009 9:38 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, was joking after the game last night that the Caps will now have to cut the hair on the Super Swede animation.
by TylerG on Oct 28, 2009 9:39 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
To me that was just a hockey play. He took exception to Nick chopping at Emery going for a lose puck. That play is going to happen in every hockey game, just so happened it was Richards and Nick, not Pyorala and Bradley.
"I think the relentless negative coverage in The Washington Post is a real difference from previous years," Redskins general counsel David Donovan said. "But in terms of the way our actual fans are behaving, we don't see any difference."
by Sct112 on Oct 28, 2009 9:16 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sure, take exception to Backstrom poking your goalie in the five hole. That’s fine.
What isn’t fine is putting him in a headlock and falling backwards on the ice with his hat in your hands. That’s childish playground crap.
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Oct 28, 2009 9:35 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Have to agree here. A poke at the goalie merits a little love tap or a glove to the face, but the WWE act is out of bounds.
From the roughly half a game I saw, the Flyers continued their penchant for running goalies, cheap shots and bitching to the ref.
I also thought they played well enough to win, but didn’t get some breaks.
"You're gonna eat that g**d**n Koho, three!"
by fat_daddyo on Oct 28, 2009 9:38 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sure, take exception to Backstrom poking your goalie in the five hole.
Hey, you poke me in the five hole and I’m going to take exception too.
by b.orr4 on Oct 28, 2009 9:43 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey, you poke me in thefiveany hole and I’m going to take exception too.
there, fixed for you….
Rock the Red! Rock the White! Rock the Blue! Rock the Pens!
by RedskinFan4Life on Oct 28, 2009 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What isn’t fine is putting him in a headlock and falling backwards on the ice with his hat in your hands. That’s childish playground crap.
He fell backwards because he tripped over Emery. Hard to fault him on that.
by David M. Getz on Oct 28, 2009 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t fault him on the falling. I fault him on the falling with Backstrom’s head under his arm, and taking the helmet with him.
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Oct 28, 2009 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Eh, Backstrom came out on top. That is the sort of stuff that happens all the time I don’t consider that a reason to ding anyone.
Richards plays on the edge and that is one of the reasons that I like him. Honestly, that is the sort of ‘toughness’ that I would love to see from the Caps. Everyone knows that you put your stick in their goalie’s groin you’re gonna pay for it.
"I think the relentless negative coverage in The Washington Post is a real difference from previous years," Redskins general counsel David Donovan said. "But in terms of the way our actual fans are behaving, we don't see any difference."
by Sct112 on Oct 28, 2009 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’ve got no problem with pushing and shoving. I draw the line at putting the other guy’s head in a headlock under your arm as you’re falling backwards. That’s the magic combination of dangerous and chickenshit.
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Oct 28, 2009 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And it’s still not the most dangerous/chickenshit play Richards has committed in the last 3 games. Loved K_C’s comment in the GDT about AO reminding Richards why he only throws blindside hits.
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by Fehr and Balanced on Oct 28, 2009 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ovie is the proverbial brick shithouse.
Maybe play with an edge, be a little more physical -- maybe be more of a prick out there.
by jordanDC on Oct 28, 2009 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mike Richards defines “childish playground crap.” I think he might be more immature than that other guy across Pennsylvania.
by RedBirdie on Oct 28, 2009 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is the same Richards that was clearly trying to line up a Booth-type hit on Ovi in the 1st and left his feet trying to lay him out in the 2nd. I love the nickname “Bitchards” for him.
by grapejoos on Oct 28, 2009 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How about ‘Bottom Bitch-ards’?
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by macvechkin on Oct 28, 2009 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sure, that's clearly better
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Oct 28, 2009 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
No, it’s because it’s the appropriate description for what he is (sadly, so is JP’s). It’s not automatically misogynistic, but sorry to anyone who took offense. And thanks for the character slur.
by grapejoos on Oct 28, 2009 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Really? You think that rises to the level of misogyny? You must have a tough time watching any pop culture.
If consequences dictate the course of action, then it doesn't matter what's right, it's only wrong if you get caught. If consequences dictate the course of action, then I should play God...
by Fehr and Balanced on Oct 28, 2009 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Or perhaps “Mike Richardonnay” for the healthy dose of “whine?”
If you've read this far...seek help.
by ThePeerless on Oct 28, 2009 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
winner winner chicken dinner (pairs well with chardonnay)
"Let the rest be scared of us." - Sasha Semin
by Scott in Shaw on Oct 28, 2009 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or “Guy we’d love on our team if given the chance.”
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by J.P. on Oct 28, 2009 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Spot on, J.P.
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by jordanDC on Oct 28, 2009 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I’ve actually crossed over to the point where I think I wouldn’t enjoy watching him.
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Oct 28, 2009 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Anybody else see Richards and think Dale Hunter?
by b.orr4 on Oct 28, 2009 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Richards obviously has more offensive ability, but yes definitely.
Maybe play with an edge, be a little more physical -- maybe be more of a prick out there.
by jordanDC on Oct 28, 2009 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not really. Through Richards first 300 games, Richards has 85 goals and 232 points. Through a similar amount of games, Hunter had 82 goals and 277 points. People often forget just how consistently good an offensive player Dale Hunter really was.
by b.orr4 on Oct 28, 2009 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Are those numbers adjusted in any way?
"I think the relentless negative coverage in The Washington Post is a real difference from previous years," Redskins general counsel David Donovan said. "But in terms of the way our actual fans are behaving, we don't see any difference."
by Sct112 on Oct 28, 2009 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
In fairness (and what Sct112’s getting at), it was a much more wide open game then.
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by J.P. on Oct 28, 2009 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This.
Maybe play with an edge, be a little more physical -- maybe be more of a prick out there.
by jordanDC on Oct 28, 2009 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, and as much as I hate him when he plays against us, I would love him if he played for us (assuming he cut back on the whining a little bit)
Because now I can justify browsing and commenting during the work day with the argument that I am promoting my business.
by Sombrero Guy on Oct 28, 2009 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I see no basis for that assumption. As much as Crosby whines he never acted like a baby to his own beat writers.
If consequences dictate the course of action, then it doesn't matter what's right, it's only wrong if you get caught. If consequences dictate the course of action, then I should play God...
by Fehr and Balanced on Oct 28, 2009 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
related to that..
The Pierre Mcguire color blindness test
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by Sombrero Guy on Oct 28, 2009 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nope, he’s one of those guys I wouldn’t want.
"And next year it will be ours."
by Ovechwin on Oct 28, 2009 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with JP to me Richards and Ovechkin both play with the same high level of intensity – that’s why Penguins Fans hate them both with equal illogic…
by markbona-capsfan99 on Oct 28, 2009 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I know that when players get traded/sign free agent contracts, supposedly bygones are bygones, but in the case of Ovechkin and Richards, do you think that would be the case?
by gfcaps fan on Oct 28, 2009 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes. It would bring them closer to the cup, which is all Ovie talks about.
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by jordanDC on Oct 28, 2009 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Any questions about the 1G?
Theo was superb tonight, and lucky (3 posts), but it was the rebound control that really impressed me. Keep it up, JT
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by bigonetimer on Oct 28, 2009 9:22 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I missed almost the entire second and the first half of the third, but from what I saw Theo was really good. And, as you say, lucky. Fartsmell shanked one with an open net and the Flyboys shot wide on a couple really good chances. But he made some awfully solid saves by being in good position and calm, and he made some great glove saves by virtue of being fast.
"You're gonna eat that g**d**n Koho, three!"
by fat_daddyo on Oct 28, 2009 9:31 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think the ice had something to do with shanked and fanned shots on both sides.
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by gotsparkly on Oct 28, 2009 9:38 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If the ice was a problem, the media would write about it.
by TylerG on Oct 28, 2009 9:39 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Inside joke – Ted ripped me for writing about the bad ice, including the line “If it was an issue, the media would write something about it.”
I responded (natch).
The media did write some more about it afterwards.
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by J.P. on Oct 28, 2009 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe the ice was fine… and the puck freezer was broken /snark
by Scofield on Oct 28, 2009 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is there anything at all that can be done about the ice? I mean, is there a way to de-humidify the building or something? The team has to know it’s an issue, the front office is not blind. I’m just wondering if it’s possible to do anything about it other than try and downplay the issue from a PR standpoint.
by Kolzilla on Oct 28, 2009 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes. There is. You hit on one way: Better dehumidification. The owner of the building hasn’t done it.
by TylerG on Oct 28, 2009 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And it won’t happen until there is a new owner. One that actually cares about the Capitals.
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by Fehr and Balanced on Oct 28, 2009 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ted had a post a year or two ago about how they had new equipment or something.. and he’d do anything to help the team. Maybe empty promises to get the heat off him. I dunno.
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by jordanDC on Oct 28, 2009 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That’s why I think it was horseshit.
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by jordanDC on Oct 28, 2009 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why? He is doing everything he can on the matter (presumably), but there’s only so much he can do when it’s not his building. Once he is able to buy it and things don’t change, call him a liar then. Until then, it’s not valid or fair.
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by J.P. on Oct 28, 2009 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What I’m saying is that the tone of his article, everything is okay, was a little exaggerated.
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by jordanDC on Oct 28, 2009 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, he’s denied that the problem exists when it was plain as day that it did (and does). No question about that. But I wouldn’t question his intentions to remedy it.
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by J.P. on Oct 28, 2009 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
haha
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by jordanDC on Oct 28, 2009 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
To be fair, Verizon just had the horse show in town and that was a new sheet of ice that really hadn’t had time to set properly. Throw in all the humidity from the rain and the end result is crappy ice in any building.
by b.orr4 on Oct 28, 2009 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And I thought that smell was the Flyers…
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by J.P. on Oct 28, 2009 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Difference?
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by gotsparkly on Oct 28, 2009 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Horses don’t play hockey.
(to which you answer, “do the Flyers?”)
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by ThePeerless on Oct 28, 2009 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They play horsehockey, if that helps? ;)
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by gotsparkly on Oct 28, 2009 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How is it that after four hours, no one had rec’d this yet?
by gfcaps fan on Oct 28, 2009 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
me like your avatar
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by hotdog88gt on Oct 28, 2009 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
haha I see. I was thinking in my head – damn that’s a slight rip on JP…considering you wrote about the ice in the post game as well
by aaw6848 on Oct 28, 2009 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The puck did look pretty bouncy in a lot of cases, I’ll agree with that. Three posts, though, is a week’s worth of luck in one game. I’m not trying to diminish the win or the play of Theo, both of which were real nice. Just saying this was a game that could have gone either way, and the Caps caught some breaks. With two good teams, that’s often the way of it, I’ll add.
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by fat_daddyo on Oct 28, 2009 9:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Absolutely. The first game in Philly could have gone either way, too. The bounces just went their way in the last game and our way in this one.
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by gotsparkly on Oct 28, 2009 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That’s Caps/Flyers hockey. Closely played, often determined by breaks (unfortunately often strongly influenced by the Stripes, as well). The NHL should be hyping the hell out of the Caps v. Flyers games. But they aren’t.
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by Fehr and Balanced on Oct 28, 2009 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They’re usually on VS, for what it’s worth. (you’ll say not much)
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by jordanDC on Oct 28, 2009 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Funny, Versus seems to have figured it out okay.
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by gotsparkly on Oct 28, 2009 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just the look of the ice sheet looked crappy. With ripples and cracks throughout it looked like a dam pond out there!
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by Fauxrumors on Oct 28, 2009 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed. Some amazing glove saves, and lightning-quick jumps on the puck after he’d stopped it. I was thoroughly impressed with him – and with the luck of those posts.
by mercurialwinger on Oct 28, 2009 9:45 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, he had a lot of confidence in his body language—the way he was snapping his glove at the whistle, etc. It was good stuff—some of the best I’ve seen him play for the Caps—and he was the difference absolutely.
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by bigonetimer on Oct 28, 2009 9:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Any questions about the 1G?
Ask again in 10 games.
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by macvechkin on Oct 28, 2009 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think the answer is going to be the same. Theo seems to be on a mission. Let’s not forget, the guy had a pretty tough summer that put him behind training-wise. He just seems to be getting better and better with each game.
by b.orr4 on Oct 28, 2009 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He’s also had some hot stretches in the past, surrounded by, well, “other.” Obviously, I hope you’re right. But it’s little more than hope right now.
Although [transition], the D in front of him is playing real well (43 SOGA notwithstanding) since they’re finally down to six guys and not the 8-man dog-and-pony-bench-your-second-best-defenseman show of a couple of weeks ago.
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by J.P. on Oct 28, 2009 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Best case scenario is he goes on a Mike Vernon-esque eff-you run, where nobody believes in him, he wins the cup and then isn’t with the team next year. I’ll take it. :-)
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by macvechkin on Oct 28, 2009 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Three goals go in instead of going off posts behind him, and I think we’re asking “What’s wrong with Theo?”
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Oct 28, 2009 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think we’d be chastising the defense again for not supporting him, especially if he made the rest of the saves he made.
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by jordanDC on Oct 28, 2009 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed. He’d still have been solid with one bad game.
And I further agree that the D is being let off the hook a bit for the 43 SOGA, though most were from way outside and such. Shoot from anywhere, run the goalie – the Philly way.
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by J.P. on Oct 28, 2009 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
There were a few instances where the puck was left in the slot a little too long as well. Little Danny boy got a pretty nice chance at one point camping out.
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by jordanDC on Oct 28, 2009 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
…but they didn’t ! Theo’s playing well and that’s probably all we can say about it. Hey, I hope he keeps it up, wins the Vezina, wins the Conn Smythe, and then we have a really pleasant dilemma on our hands. Silly comment so early, but it crossed my mind…
by mechanicsville on Oct 28, 2009 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
AO needs to win the Conn Smythe so Penguin fans know he’s as good as Malkin.
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by Fehr and Balanced on Oct 28, 2009 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
AOThe Caps needs to win theConn SmytheStanley Cup multiple times in a row so Penguin fans knowhe’s as good as Malkinto shut their pieholes.
There.
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by gotsparkly on Oct 28, 2009 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Regardless, they didn’t go in, that’s the point.
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by Ovechwin on Oct 28, 2009 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If he continues his play like this you wouldn’t want him back?
"And next year it will be ours."
by Ovechwin on Oct 28, 2009 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
not at his current salary, not even if he won us a Cup.
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by bigonetimer on Oct 28, 2009 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gotta agree. I’d rather have Nicky and Semin.
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by jordanDC on Oct 28, 2009 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
mmmmm-hmm
and BMo if the price is right.
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by bigonetimer on Oct 28, 2009 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
He’s not getting that salary anywhere next year, no matter how good a season he has. Look at what happened to some decent goalies this year. He’ll be 34, with a spotty track record. He can get some decent money, but I don’t see more than 2.5 million, and that’s with a great year. Depending on what happens with the kids (and the remainder of his season), he could be worth another year. Just my thoughts.
by gfcaps fan on Oct 28, 2009 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Truth. Look at the Manny’s, for example.
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by jordanDC on Oct 28, 2009 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly. Decent goalies can be had.
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by jordanDC on Oct 28, 2009 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’d take him at this salary if he won the Caps the Cup.
by Steckel Me Elmo on Oct 28, 2009 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Corey’s 140 character review of Gabby:
Finished reading “Gabby” – some pretty good stories in there.#Caps fans are really, really going to hate Sean Avery after reading it.
"I'm just doing karate and trying to get females pregnant."
by Bald Pollack on Oct 28, 2009 9:31 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Related: the passage to which he’s referring re: Avery is one that I wanted to use as an excerpt, but the publisher nixed it (the only one they said no to).
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by J.P. on Oct 28, 2009 9:41 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
A little TV-MA?
"I'm just doing karate and trying to get females pregnant."
by Bald Pollack on Oct 28, 2009 9:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just really, really f’ing rude and personal in a way that’s over the line, imo.
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by J.P. on Oct 28, 2009 9:51 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
There’s actually a nice part in the passage in that AO had to basically be restrained from hopping over the boards and killing Avery at one point during his antics.
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by J.P. on Oct 28, 2009 9:53 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can’t wait to grab it.
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by jordanDC on Oct 28, 2009 9:54 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know! I can’t wait until Saturday!
"And next year it will be ours."
by Ovechwin on Oct 28, 2009 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have this on pre-order at B&N online, but I don’t know if I want to wait for the mail delivery next week. Boo on the Saturday release!
by gfcaps fan on Oct 28, 2009 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
B-b-b-b-but AO won’t fight.
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by Fehr and Balanced on Oct 28, 2009 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He’s gonna get cut in half, and while I don’t want to see that, it will be bloody and great.
by Steckel Me Elmo on Oct 28, 2009 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The next game against the Rangers is likely to be … intense.
Obviously the players know about the situation already, but the fans will have newfound knowlege, and Ima guessing Avery is not going to be too happy about being called out in BB’s book.
Some team toughness may be called for on that day.
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by Your Nation's Capital on Oct 28, 2009 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Depending on how bad it is (what a tease!), it’s not necessarily going to matter. Caps already have their issues with Avery from the playoffs (remember, he didn’t play in their first game this year). And Bruce isn’t on the ice. Now, if they can crush Avery and win the game, it’s all to the good.
by gfcaps fan on Oct 28, 2009 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Details please
One shift after Coburn’s goal, Backstrom bounced the puck on his stick, then flipped a pass to Ovechkin, who snapped a quick shot past Emery to cut the Capitals’ deficit in half.
If this spiffy dangle is on YouTube or anywhere, let me have the address. I’d like to see Nicky ‘the Tiger’ Backstrom’s bounce trick close up. Thanks.
by Uncle C on Oct 28, 2009 9:34 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
All goals in all games are on NHL.com. Not individually link-to-able, but they’re there in the game recap.
by TylerG on Oct 28, 2009 9:38 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
NHLvideo also posts the game highlights on YouTube. The one for this game is here.
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by gotsparkly on Oct 28, 2009 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
direct goal link HERE (i think)
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by Sombrero Guy on Oct 28, 2009 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep, that’s it, (thanks!) but it’s all Ovie. The Nicky Magic is not keyed in on. Oh well.
by Uncle C on Oct 28, 2009 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just check the highlights on NHL.com. Backstrom looks like he’s going to try the Tiger Woods thing where he bounces the ball on his seven-iron, then whacks it 250 yards. Except while Backstrom is bouncing the puck, Richards is taking a whack at him.
If you've read this far...seek help.
by ThePeerless on Oct 28, 2009 9:39 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
One thing I definitely didn’t like: Tom Poti’s backhand around-the-boards clearing attempt is basically another way of saying to the other team, “Here, have the puck back”.
"You're gonna eat that g**d**n Koho, three!"
by fat_daddyo on Oct 28, 2009 9:43 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, he wasn’t great.
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by jordanDC on Oct 28, 2009 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But Poti made a spectacular play on the Powe breakaway that the refs absolutely blew and called a penalty shot. Poti got all puck and the Powe tripped over his stick. Perfectly legal.
by b.orr4 on Oct 28, 2009 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep, I’m a Poti fan. He just blew it on PKs a lot last night.
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by jordanDC on Oct 28, 2009 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I saw it differently.I thought the penalty shot was the right call
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Oct 28, 2009 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ya know, i said the same thing when i watched the replay. Unfortunately the refs don’t have slow-mo to look at it. while he did get the puck first, at full speed, i’m giving stipes the benefit of the doubt on that one. it was pretty close.
by Scofield on Oct 28, 2009 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
True enough.
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by jordanDC on Oct 28, 2009 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Given how they’d already given up two on the PK, I was actually in favor of the penalty shot at the time. I had faith in Theo stopping it, for some reason.
by gfcaps fan on Oct 28, 2009 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It was Powe?
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by jordanDC on Oct 28, 2009 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
whoa, there, Bobby Orr Four. Tom Poti was a primary reason that urned into a breakaway—he inexplicably hugged the left boards when his responsibility was center ice when Green pinched. And, while he did a great job getting back and trying to make a play, he hit Powe’s right skate first—not hard, but he got it. I think the refs got this one right.
And I’ll say it again—the D pairing of Poti and Green, unless its PP, is not a good one. At all.
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by bigonetimer on Oct 28, 2009 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Spot on biggie. On all points.
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by J.P. on Oct 28, 2009 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Here is what Tim Panaccio, the Flyers beat reporter wrote:
Barely two minutes after Semin’s goal, Caps’ goalie Jose Theodore faced a penalty shot and made a pad save on Darroll Powe, who had been hauled down by Tom Poti on a breakaway. The officials got it wrong. Poti made a legal stick check in knocking the puck away even though Powe tripped. So long as Poti knocked the puck away – which he did – the poke check was legal.
Regardless, the Flyers got a lucky break.
by b.orr4 on Oct 28, 2009 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
saw dat. First of all, it was no poke check—it was a desperation sweep that arced (Arked?) into Powe’s skate. The replay was pretty clear. A bang-bang play, but I feel he got skate first (and the rest of the PS call was appropriate)…it was a break (as Shaggy alludes to below). Philly was clicking on the PP.
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by bigonetimer on Oct 28, 2009 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t want to defend the bad call, but I’d suggest that it’s virtually impossible for an referee to get into the right position to be able to make that call. (On any similar play.)
by TylerG on Oct 28, 2009 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m comfortable with the following rule:
“Tie goes to the player who didn’t give up a bad breakaway by being out of position”
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Oct 28, 2009 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
On another play in the 1st, I think it was Poti that inexplicably left one of the Flyers alone in the slot. I mean he just skated away from him like he smelled bad. I think it was JVR, who got a real solid chance from the high slot. That was baffling.
"You're gonna eat that g**d**n Koho, three!"
by fat_daddyo on Oct 28, 2009 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that seemed to be going around for both teams last night. On an early 1st period 28 foray into the slot with the puck, Timmonen just waltzed through and ignored him to cover 8 and Semin had a real nice look (in which I thought he could have moved in another 10 feet, literally, before shooting) ; ditto Ovechkin on his first goal—just untouched and on cruise control.
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by bigonetimer on Oct 28, 2009 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Timmonen isn’t having the best of seasons. Currently at 1 goal and 6 points and a -10.
by b.orr4 on Oct 28, 2009 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He said something like he’s always on the ice for bad bounces. Yeah, ok.
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by jordanDC on Oct 28, 2009 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He also took a slap shot to the chest that seriously stunned him.
by b.orr4 on Oct 28, 2009 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He was talking about the whole season so far.
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by jordanDC on Oct 28, 2009 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Way to take responsibility.
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by Fehr and Balanced on Oct 28, 2009 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t think that his comment was really an attempt at dodging responsibility. I read it as him just pointing out that when things are going poorly, they really go poorly. It isn’t just his play, but things like Semin’s goal ticking off of him and by the goalie.
"I think the relentless negative coverage in The Washington Post is a real difference from previous years," Redskins general counsel David Donovan said. "But in terms of the way our actual fans are behaving, we don't see any difference."
by Sct112 on Oct 28, 2009 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he heard I drafted him on one of my fantasy teams.
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by Sombrero Guy on Oct 28, 2009 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, he got smoked last night. Which is nice, because he’s scorched us a couple times as well.
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by bigonetimer on Oct 28, 2009 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow, you’re not quoting the Biggest Ass Clown in the universe:
2/29/08
…Crosby is infinitely more fun to watch, but right now, Ovechkin is the best player."
http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/sports/penguins/s_552877.html
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by macvechkin on Oct 28, 2009 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
…Crosby is infinitely more fun to watch, but right now, Ovechkin is the best player."
I’m guessing Panaccio like to watch chess on TV, too.
If you've read this far...seek help.
by ThePeerless on Oct 28, 2009 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
wouldn’t you rather watch the best player? what an assclown
by twistedlogic on Oct 28, 2009 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not necessarily. My favorite non-Cap to watch is Iginla, but I don’t think he’s the best non-Cap in the NHL.
by David M. Getz on Oct 28, 2009 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thank you, Mr Orr
I thought I was the only one here who saw this as a stupendous defensive effort. But we all knew Powe was going to get the PS. Thank god, in retrospect.
by S h a g g y on Oct 28, 2009 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If a defensive back is horribly out of position but somehow is able to recover and gets nicked with a questionable pass interference call, is it a stupendous defensive effort? I’m not sure you can hand out accolades like that when the situation was of his own creation (though I’d agree that he recovered well).
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by J.P. on Oct 28, 2009 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
The most interesting thing to me was the way that play confirmed what I’ve been thinking for a long time: Penalty shots are far preferable for the defensive team than breakaways. In other words, players should sweep out those skates on purpose because a goal is much more likely on the breakaway than the penalty shot.
The breakaway player has three huge advantages. First, he likely has some degree of surprise on his side. Second, he has teammates who can occupy some of the goalie’s attention. And third – HE CAN PUT IN HIS OWN REBOUND. If the penalty shot itself had happened as live play, it’s a goal. Powe potted his rebound, but it was already too late on the penalty shot.
In sum, defensemen, if you find yourself out of position, take out those skates!
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Oct 28, 2009 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
In sum, defensemen, if you find yourself out of position, take out those skates!
Especially when the guy shooting is Darroll Powe. You could see he had little idea what he was going to do on the penalty shot.
by b.orr4 on Oct 28, 2009 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He’s no dangler like Matt Bradley.
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by jordanDC on Oct 28, 2009 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Professor, King of the Shootout!
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by gotsparkly on Oct 28, 2009 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He scored and retired champion.
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by jordanDC on Oct 28, 2009 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And don’t forget, the team is 1-0 when he’s captain!
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by gotsparkly on Oct 28, 2009 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
He won’t let us forget.
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by jordanDC on Oct 28, 2009 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And #10 is over the boards for the shootout!
by mercurialwinger on Oct 28, 2009 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
When Bradley hops over the boards, with a glint of menace in his eyes, goalies tremble and women swoon.
If you've read this far...seek help.
by ThePeerless on Oct 28, 2009 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
He IS a Fan Favorite, if he does say so himself.
by mercurialwinger on Oct 28, 2009 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’ve long thought that the fouled team should have a choice between a 2 min PP or the PS. Or, give the PS and the power play, but if the shot is made, count it as if the goal was scored on the PP, so the minor is washed out.
by renstar on Oct 28, 2009 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like the choice idea.
And I’ve long thought that tied games should be decided by a series of alternating penalty shots. Wait, no, I never thought that. Ever.
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by J.P. on Oct 28, 2009 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
I think the NHL needs to scrap this whole five on five thing and just go right to the penalty shot format. The elegant simplicity — shooter, defender of the shot, no french pastry mucking things up. Make for leaner payrolls, too, without the need to carry six defensemen (well, the Caps might still want to hold on to Greenie).
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by ThePeerless on Oct 28, 2009 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wholeheartedly endorese this idea.
Sincerely,
V. Kozlov
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by J.P. on Oct 28, 2009 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Viktor, how’s Russia working out for you?
by RedBirdie on Oct 28, 2009 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
3 rounds (periods). Best 2 of 3 wins.
by renstar on Oct 28, 2009 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Shootout’s a good point too — every goalie in the league is much better against penalty shots than they were in decades past because they get so much more practice. Another reason you’re better off swiping the guy’s legs and getting the penalty shot than allowing the breakaway to continue.
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Oct 28, 2009 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
My addendum to that would be Coach get the option PS or 2-min PP. If they choose the PP… it goes as normal. If they choose the PS and succeed… it washes the man advantage. If they choose the PS and miss… they receive a 1-min PP.
As was mentioned before… I think the PS vs. an in-game breakaway is so different for the goaltender and shooter that they don’t really compare as repercussion for the foul.
by Scofield on Oct 28, 2009 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bettman and the “more scoring” brigade would love it.
Maybe play with an edge, be a little more physical -- maybe be more of a prick out there.
by jordanDC on Oct 28, 2009 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Only sorta related, a guy should get a minor for fouling someone and causing a penalty shot. Odd that he gets nothing tacked to his record (that I know of) for creating “the most exciting play in hockey.”
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by J.P. on Oct 28, 2009 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That’s a good point too. It does not happen often enough to warrant a separate statistical category. Though, I bet it would come up in an arbitration hearing if a guy causes 2 or more.
by renstar on Oct 28, 2009 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The accolade was only for making a great defensive play on the breakaway. Nothing more, nothing less.
by b.orr4 on Oct 28, 2009 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Poti got all puck and the Powe tripped over his stick. Perfectly legal.
Me thinks otherwise. Maybe you could make a case for a PP instead of a a PS, but I was happy with the scrub taking the PS rather than killing 2 minutes.
And I’d estimate that at least half the time Poti makes these great plays it’s because he put himself out of position or did something dumb to begin with.
/hating
Russian Machine Never Breaks
by macvechkin on Oct 28, 2009 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If it’s a foul it has to be a PS, not a PP.
And I agree that Poti takes himself out of position, necessitating the great recovery, much more than I’d like (similar to how Varlamov plays goalie).
If consequences dictate the course of action, then it doesn't matter what's right, it's only wrong if you get caught. If consequences dictate the course of action, then I should play God...
by Fehr and Balanced on Oct 28, 2009 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he should be a winger
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by jordanDC on Oct 28, 2009 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
joe b and whats-his-name mentioned a half-hearted argument could be made that he technically came in from the side and thus it was not a clear breakaway – that’s all. i agree with it as called. and re-iterate that poti makes way too many mistakes and bad plays for a veteran player.
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by macvechkin on Oct 28, 2009 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Full disclosure: I saw only the first period and the last 10 minutes of the third. In that time, I thought Poti was pretty good in general. He jumped into a rush and fed Semin for a good chance, and did a nice job breaking up some passes. On the PK, though, he’s weak at getting the puck out of the zone.
"You're gonna eat that g**d**n Koho, three!"
by fat_daddyo on Oct 28, 2009 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
At the rate the Caps PK was going at that point, I’d rather have the PS than another PK, all things considered.
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by gotsparkly on Oct 28, 2009 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Especially with Powe-boy taking it.
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by J.P. on Oct 28, 2009 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Powe-boy
Golf clap.
"You're gonna eat that g**d**n Koho, three!"
by fat_daddyo on Oct 28, 2009 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Powe’s penalty shot attempt was Powe-less.
.. yeah.
Maybe play with an edge, be a little more physical -- maybe be more of a prick out there.
by jordanDC on Oct 28, 2009 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Alex Semin gave the Caps the lead early in the third, on a high shot from the top of the circles that deflected, but far enough up ice that Emery should have had time to adjust. Alex Ovechkin sealed the Washington win in the last minute with an empty netter, after Backstrom and Semin both passed up clear looks at the net to get the reigning MVP the puck. I don’t know if it’s a team effort to pad Ovechkin’s stats, but it was bizarre seeing the two open forwards work to get the puck to the only covered player as the net sat open.
from Broadstreet hockey. Apparently they aren’t familiar with the concept of getting across center ice before firing a shot at an empty net to prevent an icing call if you miss.
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by Sombrero Guy on Oct 28, 2009 9:51 AM EDT reply actions 2 recs
Derp derp.
Maybe play with an edge, be a little more physical -- maybe be more of a prick out there.
by jordanDC on Oct 28, 2009 9:53 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Imagine that, trying to get the puck to the best goal scorer in hockey when the game is on the line. How stupid is that.
by b.orr4 on Oct 28, 2009 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
man they have some stupid fans posting over there. Makes me appreciate the rink that much more.
A Couple more gems from the comment section
I thought the Richards-Ovechkin collision created an incredibly inciteful image of the two players. It came from the replay versus showed, but is not online. The regular view doesn’t do it justice:
Richards sees the collision coming, positions himself to stay in the play by bouncing off the boards, and heads off after the puck immediately. Ovechkin leaves his feet and drops his stick, taking him out of the play. Ovechkin makes it look good, but Richards makes the smart hockey play.
Richards tries to line up Ovechkin and gets blasted. Ovechkin didn’t come close to leaving his feet (i even offered video as proof) and Ovechkin was out of the play because Hartnell tackled him from behind. What is this guy smoking?
and another
I was at the game and it was definitely close the whole time. Lots of Flyers fans there too.
Lots of flyers fans??? Maybe 400 in the entire building? Not going to bother replying to that guy. Not worth it.
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by Sombrero Guy on Oct 28, 2009 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
quote fail, original quote was
I thought the Richards-Ovechkin collision created an incredibly inciteful image of the two players. It came from the replay versus showed, but is not online. The regular view doesn’t do it justice:
Richards sees the collision coming, positions himself to stay in the play by bouncing off the boards, and heads off after the puck immediately. Ovechkin leaves his feet and drops his stick, taking him out of the play. Ovechkin makes it look good, but Richards makes the smart hockey play.
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by Sombrero Guy on Oct 28, 2009 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can you really make an insightful comment when you can’t even spell the word?
by Gin and Tonic on Oct 28, 2009 12:42 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
unless he was trying to incite a riot.
by snowburnt on Oct 28, 2009 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s PHI. They are much more familiar with incite than insight.
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by Fehr and Balanced on Oct 28, 2009 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lots of Flyers fans?
Were you talking to Pierre McGuire?
by Steckel Me Elmo on Oct 28, 2009 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
First thing they showed on the VS broadcast was a bunch of Flyers fans walking into the VC, which perpetuates the stereotype that we can’t fill our own building.
Later, somebody tweeted that it was the least amount of Flyers fans they had seen in VC for a regular season Caps/Flyers game.
Maybe play with an edge, be a little more physical -- maybe be more of a prick out there.
by jordanDC on Oct 28, 2009 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, there were very very few.
We did have a guy in an old Edmonton Pronger jersey cheering for the Flyers a couple rows in front of us. It was strange.
by RedBirdie on Oct 28, 2009 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The guy in the Grebeshkov jersey? I saw him all the way across the rink and thought, “What the fuck is someone doing in an old-school Oilers’ Jersey?”
by Knee high to a duck on Oct 28, 2009 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You’d think that multiple sellouts in a row would do something to discredit that stereotype. Or the preponderence of red in the lower bowl.
by Gin and Tonic on Oct 28, 2009 12:40 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
It’s Pierre McGuire the Penguin lover, what do you expect?
Make no little plans; they have no magic to stir men's blood...Make big plans, aim high in hope and work. - Daniel H. Burnham
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by gotsparkly on Oct 28, 2009 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wait, misread that somehow. My bad.
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by gotsparkly on Oct 28, 2009 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lots of flyers fans??? Maybe 400 in the entire building?
Unfotunately, they’re all over by our section. I hate that there’s so many brokered seats behind us and in those rows in the next section over.
by gfcaps fan on Oct 28, 2009 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
At least a couple dozen in 412…
Fight, you time-wasting figure skaters!
by boutros23 on Oct 28, 2009 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
counted 8 in 407.
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by Sombrero Guy on Oct 28, 2009 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ha. I lurked your reply over there, too: spot on.
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by bigonetimer on Oct 28, 2009 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
the comments over there, and the whining, do nothing to dispel certain stereotypes about Philly fans.
by RedBirdie on Oct 28, 2009 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
AO leading league in goals
With a 15% shooting pct. I have copied and pasted the list of the top 10 leaders below, and tried to clean up the formatting – I doubt it works, so apologies in advance. Here’s the link in case you want to spare yourself a headache, and if you know how to make this thing format properly, please be my guest.
Anyone think Anze Kopitar continues to score on 30% of his shots? Me neither…although Colorado is having a hell of a ride so far.
Player Team Pos GP S G S%
1 Alex Ovechkin WSH L 11 72 11 15.3
2 Anze Kopitar LAK C 12 34 10 29.4
3 Marian Gaborik NYR R 12 46 10 21.7
4 Patrick Marleau SJS C 12 37 9 24.3
5 Ilya Kovalchuk ATL L 8 27 9 33.3
6 Dany Heatley SJS L 12 29 8 27.6
7 Dustin Penner EDM R 12 34 8 23.5
8 Alexander Semin WSH L 9 33 7 21.2
9 Wojtek Wolski COL L 12 25 7 28.0
10 Steven Stamkos TBL C 9 35 7 20.0
"You're gonna eat that g**d**n Koho, three!"
by fat_daddyo on Oct 28, 2009 10:08 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Kopi will slow down on goal scoring, but he’s a great passer as well.
Maybe play with an edge, be a little more physical -- maybe be more of a prick out there.
by jordanDC on Oct 28, 2009 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yea, i remember reading some article before the season where the kings coach was talking about how anze came to camp actually in shape and was playing like he gave a damn..apparently he wasn’t making that up… I dont know..I’m not saying he can keep up with ovie, but if he stays healthy and doesnt slump back into his old ways…I think he can stay near the top.
by aaw6848 on Oct 28, 2009 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He has fucking real linemates now, which also helps. You can’t take your team seriously when you have Kyle fucking Calder on your wing, Jesus Christ.
Maybe play with an edge, be a little more physical -- maybe be more of a prick out there.
by jordanDC on Oct 28, 2009 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How about keeping the cursing down a bit?
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by J.P. on Oct 28, 2009 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
It’d be easier with an edit button.
Maybe play with an edge, be a little more physical -- maybe be more of a prick out there.
by jordanDC on Oct 28, 2009 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Get an internal one installed.
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by J.P. on Oct 28, 2009 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Talk to me like an adult, please. I was joking with the edit button comment.
Maybe play with an edge, be a little more physical -- maybe be more of a prick out there.
by jordanDC on Oct 28, 2009 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or, to put AO's goal total a different way...
11 in 11.
by TylerG on Oct 28, 2009 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
cue the Bossy/99 watch…
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by bigonetimer on Oct 28, 2009 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just hope AO doesn’t listen to the hype too much – and neither do his teammates. 50 in 50 is exactly the sort of thing that the entire team will break their system and their play to try and get Ovi the puck for, and we all know what happens when they do that :P
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by gotsparkly on Oct 28, 2009 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Because AO’s always had trouble handling attention? Pshaw.
by TylerG on Oct 28, 2009 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I already agreed with you, but the use of “Pshaw” made me feel like you won the argument anyway.
by aaw6848 on Oct 28, 2009 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not so much that – have you ever noticed that when he’s facing a huge milestone or historic achievement, a lot of times he goes in a little slump? It’s like he’s gripping his stick tighter or something. Plus sometimes you get breakdowns or don’t get a score because the guys will pass up an open shot to get him the puck?
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by gotsparkly on Oct 28, 2009 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
To suggest they’d “break their system” implies they play it with consistency.
"I'm just doing karate and trying to get females pregnant."
by Bald Pollack on Oct 28, 2009 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Caps’ system: Get 19-8-28-52 the puck.
by TylerG on Oct 28, 2009 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
To suggest they’d "break their system" implies they play it with consistency.
Well, the regular season, after all, means Maurice Richard, right?
"You're gonna eat that g**d**n Koho, three!"
by fat_daddyo on Oct 28, 2009 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
True dat, but it’ll help when not falling behind to 7 seeds.
"I'm just doing karate and trying to get females pregnant."
by Bald Pollack on Oct 28, 2009 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You got that right.
Lollygagging through 45 minutes will not cut it come the playoffs.
"You're gonna eat that g**d**n Koho, three!"
by fat_daddyo on Oct 28, 2009 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You know what that makes them?
"I'm just doing karate and trying to get females pregnant."
by Bald Pollack on Oct 28, 2009 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
"You're gonna eat that g**d**n Koho, three!"
by fat_daddyo on Oct 28, 2009 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Millionaires > Champions?
"I'm just doing karate and trying to get females pregnant."
by Bald Pollack on Oct 28, 2009 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It means Rocket? Goal Trophy???
"I think the relentless negative coverage in The Washington Post is a real difference from previous years," Redskins general counsel David Donovan said. "But in terms of the way our actual fans are behaving, we don't see any difference."
by Sct112 on Oct 28, 2009 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Means “dick” = means “Richard” = means “maurice richard”…a strained and not-very-clever pun.
"You're gonna eat that g**d**n Koho, three!"
by fat_daddyo on Oct 28, 2009 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I got your reference to rooster… just calling you on the strain.
"I think the relentless negative coverage in The Washington Post is a real difference from previous years," Redskins general counsel David Donovan said. "But in terms of the way our actual fans are behaving, we don't see any difference."
by Sct112 on Oct 28, 2009 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
unless he just goes on a 20 game tear and settles it real early, I think that’s a good point.
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by bigonetimer on Oct 28, 2009 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
"We got pissed off," Backstrom said. "We were so angry that we couldn’t score." [Link]
Nice quote.
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by J.P. on Oct 28, 2009 10:35 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yea, he said that in the post-game…i was watching the vid this morning and it took me by surprise. I like that intensity from nicky
by aaw6848 on Oct 28, 2009 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m convinced that power play success is based as much on confidence as it skill. After Ovechkin scored the first goal and then they went on the PP, I think everyone in the building knew they were going to score. They just seemed a lot more relaxed.
by b.orr4 on Oct 28, 2009 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think it’s about movement. When the Caps stand around they don’t score.
by TylerG on Oct 28, 2009 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
+1 to this.. I also don’t like it when they choose to dump it..particularly on a 5 on 3
by aaw6848 on Oct 28, 2009 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Especially against the Phlyers, who seemed much more adept at winning battles along the boards last night.
by Kolzilla on Oct 28, 2009 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That pissed me off as well.
Maybe play with an edge, be a little more physical -- maybe be more of a prick out there.
by jordanDC on Oct 28, 2009 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just feel like backstrom can get it deep into the zone through traffic pretty regularly without dumping it..so much wasted time dumping and then philly getting an easy chip out of the zone. Caps have all that skill on the PK..use it, damnit!
by aaw6848 on Oct 28, 2009 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Can’t carry it in when the Flyers stack the line. Gotta dump it and be willing to go get it, that second part being the critical element of course.
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by J.P. on Oct 28, 2009 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
5-on-3, though.. You’d think one of Ovie, Nick, Semin, or Green could dance through or make a creative pass.
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by jordanDC on Oct 28, 2009 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yea. def. on a 5v3..no dumping for sure
by aaw6848 on Oct 28, 2009 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Last year it took forever for them to score on a 5 on 3, didn’t it?
by gfcaps fan on Oct 28, 2009 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I suppose you’re right. My problem seems to fall more on the side of..if you do dump it…you know, go get it
by aaw6848 on Oct 28, 2009 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I yell that all the time. “Dump and chase!”
"Camaraderie, that's what the Washington Capitals are all about."
by CapitalCentre on Oct 28, 2009 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
gotta dump and have the other guys out there entering the zone with speed, if you wait until the last second, your teammates have no momentum huggling the blue line and don’t get to the puck first making it easy for the opponent to clear.
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by Sombrero Guy on Oct 28, 2009 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
(referring to the 5v4 PP issues entering the zone last night)
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by Sombrero Guy on Oct 28, 2009 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, that’s a good point. If your linemates don’t know it’s coming, and you don’t lead the chase, it’s a turnover and a boner on your part.
Maybe play with an edge, be a little more physical -- maybe be more of a prick out there.
by jordanDC on Oct 28, 2009 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe play with an edge, be a little more physical -- maybe be more of a prick out there.
by jordanDC on Oct 28, 2009 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
You lose a puck over there in the bank, you give it to the other team. If you lose a puck…along the boards, you gotta fight for it!
If you've read this far...seek help.
by ThePeerless on Oct 28, 2009 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I also don’t like it when they choose to dump it.
Their first power play, which netted zero shots by the way, they did try to skate it in. Philly was stacking up 3 guys at the blue line and trapping the puck at the boards and the line.
When they do that, your only alternative is to dump it in. As noted elsewhere, then you have to win the puck back, though.
In general, I don’t mind the Caps playing D&C on the PP. They do best when they play simple hockey.
"You're gonna eat that g**d**n Koho, three!"
by fat_daddyo on Oct 28, 2009 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yea. again, I think i was thinking more of 5v3 time..but I agree with you, with those big philly bruisers stacking the blue line dumping is a need – I just feel like the caps aren’t good at it – they don’t recover the puck most times they do dump it. No, I have no support for my claim other than i FEEL like it’s true from what i remember about last night.
by aaw6848 on Oct 28, 2009 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The 5 – 3 definitely needs work. They look like deer in the headlights out there.
"You're gonna eat that g**d**n Koho, three!"
by fat_daddyo on Oct 28, 2009 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Last season or the season before it was a huge problem as well for a long period of time.
Maybe play with an edge, be a little more physical -- maybe be more of a prick out there.
by jordanDC on Oct 28, 2009 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I recall the same thing. Not sure what the problem is. Not enough moving of the feet?
"You're gonna eat that g**d**n Koho, three!"
by fat_daddyo on Oct 28, 2009 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Seems likely to me. That or trying to make the perfect play.
Maybe play with an edge, be a little more physical -- maybe be more of a prick out there.
by jordanDC on Oct 28, 2009 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The two go together.
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by Fehr and Balanced on Oct 28, 2009 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I was going to say movement, but confidence plays into it too – guys wanting to take shots rather than moving the puck to the next guy, wanting the puck (and moving to get it), etc.
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by J.P. on Oct 28, 2009 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
especially with Backstrom saying it. he’s like seinfeld…i just can’t see the guy being angry, and when he is, i bet it’s funny.
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by macvechkin on Oct 28, 2009 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you've read this far...seek help.
by ThePeerless on Oct 28, 2009 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
From JP’s link to the article….
"Absolutely," said Capitals forward Keith Aucoin. "That’s one of the best games I’ve seen him play since I’ve been here."
methinks this is a funny statement from Aucoin — how many games has he been with the Caps so far? 3? (unless he means being in the system, then I stand corrected)
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by RedskinFan4Life on Oct 28, 2009 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Aucoin was here for a handful of games last season. Couple (maybe even three or four) different tours of duty, iirc.
by RedBirdie on Oct 28, 2009 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Somewhat OT
But I thought James van Riemsdyk (sp?) looked real solid last night. That guy is going to be a real PITA if he continues to develop a little bit.
"You're gonna eat that g**d**n Koho, three!"
by fat_daddyo on Oct 28, 2009 10:39 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Like him a lot. If Delly ever gets into the WSH lineup, the WSH-PHL rivalry will further intensify…
by TylerG on Oct 28, 2009 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
is there Delly vs JVR history that I am unaware of?
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by Sombrero Guy on Oct 28, 2009 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
In the last WJC Delly cleaned out JvR with a really, really dirty hit. Knocked him outta the game, maybe the tourney?
by TylerG on Oct 28, 2009 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe we could have a WWF steel cage, tag-team grudge match. Ovie and Della Rovere vs Richards and van Riemsdyk.
by b.orr4 on Oct 28, 2009 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
good call.
Link to article
Della Rovere’s first cheap shot came after Canadian star John Tavares had notched his second goal in just over forty seconds, to pull the Canadian team to within one at 3-2. As the Canadian team made their way past the American bench (during which Della Rovere was mockingly extending his fist as if to engage the American players in a celebration) to celebrate with their teammates one or two of the Canadians ran into American winger James van Riemsdyk, who had his back to the jubilant Canadians. The result wasn’t all that surprising: the Canadians bunched into one another and several lost their footing, including one who appeared a take a stick up high (update: reader 246 points out that the Canadian player was clipped by an American seated on the bench, something I had missed in the telecast and in the intial recaps). Della Rovere in turn quickly and subtly punched van Riemsdyk from the blind side before continuing to the Canadian bench as if nothing had happened. The result? An ice pack to the face of van Riemsdyk , who lay prone on the ice for several minutes before getting up, and no penalty minutes for what should have been a game misconduct.
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by Sombrero Guy on Oct 28, 2009 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
hah! I didn’t even notice where that came from.
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by Sombrero Guy on Oct 28, 2009 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That’s exactly when I said to myself, “Damn, I want that dude on my team.”
I’m referring, of course, to DMG’s post, not SDR’s actions.
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by J.P. on Oct 28, 2009 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I’m pretty sure not the tourney. And since it’s brought up I’ll just reiterate that JVR wasn’t doing anything for Team USA anyway.
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by Fehr and Balanced on Oct 28, 2009 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m starting a new anti-social website. It’s going to be called get-out-of-my-facebook.
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by macvechkin on Oct 28, 2009 11:06 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I hope they can build momentum off of this win and carry it through the weekend. They know that Atlanta is without Kovy, but there are also some guys on that deal that are due to put up some points and capable of stepping up.
Maybe play with an edge, be a little more physical -- maybe be more of a prick out there.
by jordanDC on Oct 28, 2009 11:12 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Bruce mentioned in his post-game that he hoped the Flyers game didn’t take too much out of the guys for the rest of the week. Hopefully come Sunday against the Blue Jackets they still have enough energy left.
by Kolzilla on Oct 28, 2009 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah. We don’t seem to play them very well very often to begin with.
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by jordanDC on Oct 28, 2009 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thrash, Isles and C-Bus…ugh. If there were ever a portion of the schedule designed to maximize lollygaggying, this is it. I’m mentally girding myself for some underwhelming efforts. I’ll guess that they get 4 points out of this stretch.
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by fat_daddyo on Oct 28, 2009 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
On the plus side, having just played two of the three and turning in sub-par efforts in each (in differing degrees), Bruce should have all the motivators/teaching tools he needs to spark the boys.
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by J.P. on Oct 28, 2009 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Isles game on Friday will be the third in four nights and the second of a back to back. If they can play with emotion and energy on Friday, color me impressed.
by b.orr4 on Oct 28, 2009 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hope they do, I have nice seats!
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by jordanDC on Oct 28, 2009 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not to mention the shellackings by Columbus last year.
by gfcaps fan on Oct 28, 2009 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
CBC has JT60 numero 1 star
But Brawndo's got what plants crave. It's got electrolytes.
by hotdog88gt on Oct 28, 2009 11:28 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
So did ESPN last nite. With Backstrom second star.
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by Your Nation's Capital on Oct 28, 2009 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also per Vogs:
Hardhat – With a Swedish television station in attendance and chronicling his efforts, Backstrom enjoyed a four-point night. He was also plus-3 in 19:45 of work, and he earned the game’s No. 2 star designation as well as the hardhat from his teammates.
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by Your Nation's Capital on Oct 28, 2009 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good — now Swedish TV guys go to Grand Rapids and cover the other Swedish center. Make him look good!
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Oct 28, 2009 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Swine Flu
for number 53, according to Corey tweets. Keep him the hell at home.
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by jordanDC on Oct 28, 2009 11:39 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Swine flu better hope it doesn’t catch Brooks Laich.
by Kolzilla on Oct 28, 2009 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions 7 recs
that’s a rec and a color change
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by bigonetimer on Oct 28, 2009 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
FanShot up to discuss the news
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by J.P. on Oct 28, 2009 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Speaking of Swine
How did I miss the existence of this product??
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by macvechkin on Oct 28, 2009 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You must not watch The Daily Show.
Maybe play with an edge, be a little more physical -- maybe be more of a prick out there.
by jordanDC on Oct 28, 2009 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, JS is not my type.
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by macvechkin on Oct 28, 2009 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That’d be how you missed it, then! He trots it out sporadically.
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by jordanDC on Oct 28, 2009 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hope the rest of the team got their H1N1 shots.
by b.orr4 on Oct 28, 2009 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Have Laing take a stroll through the visitors locker room, littering the floor with used tissues, not coughing into his sleeve, and sneezing with abandon
If you've read this far...seek help.
by ThePeerless on Oct 28, 2009 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That’s biological warfare and it’s banned by the CBA.
Maybe play with an edge, be a little more physical -- maybe be more of a prick out there.
by jordanDC on Oct 28, 2009 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He could sneeze on his hand and then go congratulate the opposing team for a game well played.
by b.orr4 on Oct 28, 2009 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not likely. It’s not all that available yet, and hockey players aren’t on the priority list. At least not federal guidelines.
by gfcaps fan on Oct 28, 2009 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
RAY EMERY SMASH!
Aside from a few tweets, have we heard any more about this story (Emery smashing a TV in the locker room before(!) the game)?
"Let the rest be scared of us." - Sasha Semin
by Scott in Shaw on Oct 28, 2009 12:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Good thing they didn’t win, or else he’d have to do it before every game.
Oh wait, he probably does anyway.
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by jordanDC on Oct 28, 2009 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
can I get a ruling here? Jersey Foul, or ultimate expression of AO’s utter takeover of DC?
by RedBirdie on Oct 28, 2009 4:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Total foul. Caps and Redskins are entirely different entities. I don’t care how much fan base overlap there is.
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by Fehr and Balanced on Oct 28, 2009 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
honestly, it’s so heinous I can’t stop gawking at it. Sort of like a blazing 7 car pile-up on the beltway.
by RedBirdie on Oct 28, 2009 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe the skins would start winning if it were true
by snowburnt on Oct 29, 2009 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Horrendous foul. This is as bad as the Garciaparra Celtics jersey I once saw (when Boston was still tortured), and that’s saying something.
Unless the Skins gave this jersey to AO, in which case it’s kind of moot (invoking the rule that I just made up that if a player wears it, it can’t be a jersey foul).
by grapejoos on Oct 28, 2009 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not a chance. When AO rolls in Skins gear, it’s in his autographed game-worn Cooley jersey, thankyouverymuch.
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by Your Nation's Capital on Oct 28, 2009 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
assfoul.
If I find out Snyderatto has something to do with this, I’ll burn my Skins lid.
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by bigonetimer on Oct 28, 2009 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
no, it was done by a fan, to protest. Weak protest.
by RedBirdie on Oct 28, 2009 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Expensive weak protest. And a reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeach.
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by jordanDC on Oct 28, 2009 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Football jerseys way cheaper than hockey jerseys. I wouldn’t do it, but relatively speaking, less expensive than some of the jersey fouls running around Verizon.
by gfcaps fan on Oct 28, 2009 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
a custom jersey like that costs as much as a replica hockey jersey…speaking of, why would a fan want an authentic jersey complete with fighting straps? are you going to play in it?
by snowburnt on Oct 29, 2009 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ok, I thought I saw a stack of jerseys, and I about vomited my egg salad.
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by bigonetimer on Oct 28, 2009 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bourque's Big Chance
Not sure where to put this so I thought I’d put it here. Tyler Kennedy is a scratch tonight so Chris Bourque is going to skate on Malkin’s line. I’d say this is his big audition and if he fails we could see his name on the waiver wire again.
by b.orr4 on Oct 28, 2009 4:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
TK doesn’t normally skate on Malkin’s line, so why is CBo necessarily going to be on that line.
PIT’s third line is Cooke/Staal/TK.
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by Fehr and Balanced on Oct 28, 2009 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That is a hell of a third line. That damn team… sonofa…
"I think the relentless negative coverage in The Washington Post is a real difference from previous years," Redskins general counsel David Donovan said. "But in terms of the way our actual fans are behaving, we don't see any difference."
by Sct112 on Oct 28, 2009 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can’t tell you. Just what I heard on XM. I guess they could be wrong.
by b.orr4 on Oct 28, 2009 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did they say why TK is out?
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by Fehr and Balanced on Oct 28, 2009 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
isn’t he the one that licks his stick? maybe he got a splinter.
by RedBirdie on Oct 28, 2009 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah that’s him. I’ve gotten a carbon fiber splinter in my hand, and it sucks. Can’t even imagine what it feels like in the mouth.
If consequences dictate the course of action, then it doesn't matter what's right, it's only wrong if you get caught. If consequences dictate the course of action, then I should play God...
by Fehr and Balanced on Oct 28, 2009 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
nice catch. I’ll gander it.
BTW, for those you who haven’t met Mr. Late Night Comedy on Hockey OT, it should be no surprise F&B patrols those waters.
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by bigonetimer on Oct 28, 2009 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ha. Thanks. It’s my version of Howlin’ Mad Murphy.
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by Fehr and Balanced on Oct 28, 2009 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, I bet you feel like shit now that you know Luongo’s hurt, and wasn’t just sucking Dats’ ass last night.
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by bigonetimer on Oct 28, 2009 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Haha. Not a chance. If he thinks he’s healthy enough to play he needs to be healthy enough to stop that shot. I stand by it.
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by Fehr and Balanced on Oct 28, 2009 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and, even further OT, COL-CAL should be a good one.
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by bigonetimer on Oct 28, 2009 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah I’m looking forward to a few of tonight’s games. LAk/SJS should be real interesting, STL/CAR too.
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by Fehr and Balanced on Oct 28, 2009 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And I don’t know how I overlooked it but NYR/NYI are always awesome games. It’s a shame they won’t be around for much longer.
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by Fehr and Balanced on Oct 28, 2009 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
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Washington
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70 | 47 | 14 | 9 | 103 |
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Atlanta
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69 | 29 | 29 | 11 | 69 |
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Tampa Bay
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69 | 28 | 29 | 12 | 68 |
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Florida
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Carolina
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