4.875 Million is a lot of Money!
by shwedy on Oct 24, 2009 8:55 AM EDT
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So with the " Nylander Saga" possibly coming to an end the Caps may be looking at some very nice salary cap space. This obviously puts them in a great position especially given the cap situation of some of the other strong teams in the East ( Philly/Boston).
So I began to wonder what the Caps would do with this money and wanted your thoughts as well.
It's very possible that GMGM would sit on this money until the deadline. Looking at this team I can't see much ( on paper) that we would need. Every teams wants/needs that tough-experienced-rugged Dman of course and that's where I think the money goes but not until the deadline.
The Caps could bring up Alzner but given the log jam on the blueline and the (pretty) strong play of Mo and Juice- I'm not so sure. Even if they sent Sloan down, they wouldnt bring up Alzner to be the 7th/8th d-man. And as stated before, besides Erskine who do you move?
So what do you think? Are we making a move the day we get that "cash" ?....or do we wait until the deadline? When we do make the move, what are we getting?
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I’d have to agree. I think this is to give space for trades out there. I’d think that until Caps have space, some GM’s might even hesitate to contact GMGM.
I have to think Karlzner would be up for post-trade deadline games and the playoffs.
I think the bigger issue is for next year though and signing Semin and Backis (cant find the buyout thread for Nyles to link)
4.875 Million is a lot of Money!
To give a sense of perspective, that’s more money than there is meat in this burger:
And Nylander could afford more than 250,000 of those burgers with $4,875,000
Atta dinnin stick a who!
Trade a D and pick for a 20-25 goal-scoring winger. Sign Manny Fernandez for $750,000. Bring up Alzner or Carlson if either is ready.
Maybe play with an edge, be a little more physical -- maybe be more of a prick out there.
Sign Manny Fernandez for $750,000.
I’m not convinced another keeper is needed. Who do you get rid of?
Theo has been playing remarkably well. Varly hasn’t been putting up the numbers I had hoped, he’s still getting good on the job training. If the trend continues I’d be on the trolley for sending Varly down for a confidence builder and bringing up our other young keeper to see what he’s got.
Definitely a good idea. I was thinking of Manny more as the Huet.. in case 2 of our 3 NHL-level guys are sucking or hurt.
Maybe play with an edge, be a little more physical -- maybe be more of a prick out there.
There hasn’t been much buzz since the rumors first started, but if Peter Forsberg is still playing as well as was reported, you’ve got to think that the Caps would be inquiring.
by sixsevenfiftysix on Oct 24, 2009 12:59 PM EDT reply actions
If contract wasn’t an issue, I’d rather have Nyls over Foppa, at this point. At leasts Nylander’s ankles aren’t falling apart. Contract considered I’d rather have neither.
I'm so sick and tired of the refs explaining the calls like this is the NFL.
I’d like to hear some “rumors” on what Forsberg would be asking for before making that decision. There is probably some BMo-like dollar figure where the risk of signing Foppa is minimal (1 yr/$2mil, prorated?). You’d like to think that the Caps have the leverage (Cup-ready team, potent offensive), but I don’t know enough about his negotiation history to know if he is a hard-liner or not.
WM is saying that if Nyls and Foppa were on equal Ks he would take Nyls. I can’t disagree enough. So the prospective Foppa K value is irrelevant to WM’s argument. I don’t see how there is any risk to signing Foppa but apparently WM does. If we sign him and he doesn’t play, we don’t lose cap space. If we sign him and he plays he’s an immediate upgrade at whatever position he plays (except maybe 1C but that’s not exactly an accurate argument because even if he’s a step back from Baxter at 1C that means we have an upgrade at 2C and at 3C so I still view it as an upgrade).
If consequences dictate the course of action, then it doesn't matter what's right, it's only wrong if you get caught. If consequences dictate the course of action, then I should play God...
Fleischmann-Foppa-Semin would be a pretty amazing second line
Laich-Morrison-Fehr would be a pretty sweet third line.
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Oct 24, 2009 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Right. For all 5 games Foppa is healthy. What an unfortunate loss for the entire game.
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As long as the first 4 give them a sweep in Round 1, it doesn’t matter to me. Foppa won’t be signed simply for skill, he’ll also be signed because he knows how to win.
by red army line on Oct 27, 2009 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Leaving Boyd/Steckel/Bradley as a pretty bad ass 4th, as well.
If consequences dictate the course of action, then it doesn't matter what's right, it's only wrong if you get caught. If consequences dictate the course of action, then I should play God...
or Clark/Steckel/Bradley.
If consequences dictate the course of action, then it doesn't matter what's right, it's only wrong if you get caught. If consequences dictate the course of action, then I should play God...
*all these lines assuming everyone stays healthy.. which we should know, almost never happenes
by hockeyman33 on Oct 24, 2009 11:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Man, that has quite the ripple effect. Being able to have Foppa and Backs on the PP gives you the opportunity to create a much more legit pair of units and makes rolling both of them a more appealing option, yes?
Backstrom/Semin/Laich/AO/Green
Foppa/BMo(Fehr? Fleischmann?)/Knuble/Poti/Pothier
by Knee high to a duck on Oct 24, 2009 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions
About Foppa:
According to Sportbladet.se, KHL’s Ak Bars and Salavat Yulaef offered $3.5 million to Peter Forsberg to play in Russia.
He hasn’t decided yet.
"It's an incredible place. Every seat feels like it's right on top of you. So can't we just make it official? Every big American soccer game should be played in RFK. We need the home-field advantage. Done and done."
by Bald Pollack on Oct 24, 2009 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions
I am in no way surprised that he’s been tendered an offer.
That said, seeing him in a Caps Jersey would be sah-weet. Like F&B says, for all five games that he was healthy.
by Knee high to a duck on Oct 24, 2009 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions
If Foppa thinks he can play, he’ll come to the NHL. I don’t see why he’d go play in the KHL. (After all health is his big issue and we all know how the KHL does with the saftey/health issues!) Foppa probably doesn’t need money like he’s Theo Fleury so if he plays in Europe I bet it’s in Sweden.
If consequences dictate the course of action, then it doesn't matter what's right, it's only wrong if you get caught. If consequences dictate the course of action, then I should play God...
The deadline for his decision is November 9 that’s the day before SEL starts again after the Karjala Cup Tournament and the date Modo have set for him. There’s some development after that article and that is the fact that he didn’t make Bengt-Åkes NT squad. So the KHL teams can’t see him play before they sign him I would imagine that can be Deal breaker.
I don’t think it matters though if he plays it’s going to be for Modo in SEL or a legitimate Cup contender in Nhl.
So the KHL teams can’t see him play before they sign him I would imagine that can be Deal breaker.
Sounds familiar…
If consequences dictate the course of action, then it doesn't matter what's right, it's only wrong if you get caught. If consequences dictate the course of action, then I should play God...
I’d give just about anything to have AO and Green split up on the PP points. I’m sick of seeing SH breakaways…
I’d give anything to see AO not play the point on the PP.
If consequences dictate the course of action, then it doesn't matter what's right, it's only wrong if you get caught. If consequences dictate the course of action, then I should play God...
I’m on board.
Maybe play with an edge, be a little more physical -- maybe be more of a prick out there.
I was just looking through his career stats. Fucking impressive, and sad at the same time he couldn’t have been healthier. Foreshadowing of Semin’s career stats maybe?
Who thinks Foppa has done enough to make HHOF?
I think he’s in the HoF without a doubt.
If consequences dictate the course of action, then it doesn't matter what's right, it's only wrong if you get caught. If consequences dictate the course of action, then I should play God...
No question about it. He should be in on the first ballot.
by Knee high to a duck on Oct 24, 2009 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Double Triple Gold? That’s gotta make him like the best player ever, right?
If consequences dictate the course of action, then it doesn't matter what's right, it's only wrong if you get caught. If consequences dictate the course of action, then I should play God...
Of course it does, because championships won = great hockey player.
Or it could be his amazing vision, spectacular hands, his physical edge, mindblowing skill, you know, any of those.
by Knee high to a duck on Oct 24, 2009 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Guy’s got a stamp. The Hall is a lock. I’d love to have him.
And if we have the cap space and don’t use it on a badass defender who we can lock in for a few years, well, caveat emptor GMGM.
from the house that Red Jesus built
Look at the recent high profile “bad ass defensemen” signings. If we do get a BAMF D then caveat emptor, GMGM.
We have Green, Carlson, Alzner, Schultz lined up to be the backbone of our D. Signing another FA long term will push those guys out and use valuable cap space. We also have Semin and Baxter to consider. I’d prefer a rental to a long term guy, personally.
If consequences dictate the course of action, then it doesn't matter what's right, it's only wrong if you get caught. If consequences dictate the course of action, then I should play God...
I’d say sit on the money for now. Wait and try to keep moving one of the D. When a D or two gets moved bring up Alzner. Then reevaluate at the deadline. Until the deadline we are banking cap space so we may as well bank as much as we can to increase the number of possible options.
If consequences dictate the course of action, then it doesn't matter what's right, it's only wrong if you get caught. If consequences dictate the course of action, then I should play God...
Trade for Crosby! :) that’d be a rocker….
Rock the Red! Rock the White! Rock the Blue! Rock the Pens!
by RedskinFan4Life on Oct 25, 2009 11:50 AM EDT reply actions
I don’t think McPhee would use the money to overpay at the deadline for a defenseman. My bet is, when he has the room, he’ll look for a trade. He doesn’t want a rental and he doesn’t want to pay more than market price or another overinflated salary. Itmay take a long time to do such a trade, but the deadline isn’t what McPhee shoots for. he’ll take a deal or baragain but he’ll only pick up a cheap guy for a rental, like Sergei Berezin. McPhee’s art is in the deal.
He doesn’t want a rental and he doesn’t want to pay more than market price or another overinflated salary.
learned that from Nyls, right ?
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by RedskinFan4Life on Oct 26, 2009 8:09 PM EDT reply actions
Sit on it, man. Definitely. I can’t think of much this team needs (unless you can buy a good swift kick in the shorts). That’ll alleviate a lot of the “who can we bring up” nonsense and let GMGM stockpile cash. If he sees something he can’t pass up, then sure, but trading for a player just to spend the cash is juvenile and poor budget management.
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