I'm hearing that Michael Nylander is headed to AHL Grand Rapids for a conditioning stint.
- @TarikElBashir, updated (and confirmed) here
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Don’t break out the bubbly just yet…
"If you're gonna die after 24, might as well jump out at 23:59, no?"
by Laich It Or Lump It on Oct 21, 2009 2:53 PM EDT reply actions
updated:
Nylander has NOT been traded. The veteran center, who has not suited up since being used sparingly in the playoffs, simply has agreed to Griffins to get some game action without taking any ice time away from the Capitals’ prospects in Hershey.
How Nylander performs could determine what happens next. There has been a little interest from some KHL teams, but those clubs have also expressed concern about Nylander’s conditioning and ability to come in and contribute since it’s been so long since his last game. This is Nylander’s chance to prove he can still play, and perhaps, facilitate a trade.
The 37-year-old, by the way, did not have to clear waivers in order to be sent to Grand Rapids. He also still counts toward towards the Capitals’ 23-man roster and his salary still counts against Washington’s salary cap.
I’d add to that update that he can only be in GR for two weeks.
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i thought one needed to be injured to facilitate a conditioning assignment
Because now I can justify browsing and commenting during the work day with the argument that I am promoting my business.
by Sombrero Guy on Oct 21, 2009 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions
13.8 of the CBA just says “conditioning loan”. It does mention that the Commissioner can investigate the loan if he thinks a team is trying to evade re-entry waivers. Considering Nyls still counts against the cap and the roster limit, I’m guessing Gary’s not going to care.
That section of the CBA also says that the player must agree to the loan (plus he has a NMC anyway), which means it seems to be Nyls is coming around to the idea of a trade.
"If you're gonna die after 24, might as well jump out at 23:59, no?"
by Laich It Or Lump It on Oct 21, 2009 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions
it seems to be Nyls is coming around to the idea of a trade.
I haven’t heard anything about him being opposed to a trade or not be willing to waive his NMC. If I were a betting man, I’d say the opportunity for a trade hasn’t come up yet, but that he recognizes the only opportunity he has to get moved (NHL, KHL, Europe…anywhere but the AHL) is to get into a game somewhere.
and if rumor is to be believed, Nyls was willing to go to Chicago last year and it was the ’Hawks that pulled the plug at the last minute.
[nods head]
"Let the rest be scared of us." - Sasha Semin
by Scott in Shaw on Oct 21, 2009 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions
(Sidenote: at CapsCon, GMGM made a point that in his line of business, your word is your bond and people who go back on their word are out of work pretty soon. Wonder about whom he was talking.)
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It’s little comments like this that remind me of how angry I was about being sent to Korea during CapsCon.
He’s just bitter that he almost unloaded his anchor. Tallon deserved to lose his job for even considering taking Nyls, not for going back on his word. I have a feeling Tallon may not have been the one to back out; one of the higher ups in the organization may have nixed that deal. I have no idea really, though.
If consequences dictate the course of action, then it doesn't matter what's right, it's only wrong if you get caught. If consequences dictate the course of action, then I should play God...
Quite possible, but the point was a) CHI backed out and b) GMGM carries a grudge.
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Yep. I wonder how far that grudge goes, i.e. would GMGM still refuse to deal with CHI just because Tallon is still in the organization?
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I doubt it, and if he’d be willing to potentially hurt the Caps because of a personal/professional difference, I’d be rather irked.
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Agree completely. Irked probably isn’t even strong enough for what I’d feel. If Patrick Sharp gets shopped GMGM damn well better inquire regardless of any personal feelings.
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Yup. “Irked” was shorthand for “fuckin’ pissed.”
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As I recall, there’s some additional history between McPhee and the Hawks…
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Oct 21, 2009 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Irrelevant
Since the ’Hawks fired Tallon unceremoniously last summer.
I'm trying to work out a deal with a club in Europe
I think that goes back to F&B’s earlier question on whether McPhee would refuse a trade with Chicago because Tallon still works there.
Technically
He still works for the ’Hawks, but Bowman/McDonough are calling the shots. Making him the “Senior Adviser” is akin to telling him to go into a corner and play with some blocks.
I'm trying to work out a deal with a club in Europe
Or…“Have a seat in the press box, Mr. Tallon. You can see the games real good from there.”
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Hmm, so Tallon is still on the payroll, but he’s not actually doing anything for the Hawks.
That reminds me of something, but I can’t quite put my finger on it.
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Oct 21, 2009 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions
would GMGM still refuse to deal with CHI just because Tallon is still in the organization
No, but he might send a potential playmaking center to the farm team of a conference rival for a coughconditioningstintcough.
/JP, I know. Indulge me, k?
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Farm team of a conference rival? Detroit is Eastern Conf. now? :)
by OverTheBoards on Oct 21, 2009 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes.
"Let the rest be scared of us." - Sasha Semin
by Scott in Shaw on Oct 21, 2009 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions
I sure hope that doesn’t come from your inside info.
If consequences dictate the course of action, then it doesn't matter what's right, it's only wrong if you get caught. If consequences dictate the course of action, then I should play God...
Well, it relates to the man, not the team, so if Tallon isn’t calling the shots anymore, I wouldn’t be too worried.
"Let the rest be scared of us." - Sasha Semin
by Scott in Shaw on Oct 22, 2009 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Just ask Rick Tocchet (and Glen Hanlon)…
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Oct 21, 2009 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions
How about this one...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dN-g3fh8o-A
George held his own against Tocchet in his prime. Tocchet was a tough customer back then….
Wonder what the odds were on the fight?
Let's go Caps!
by MikeL-Pivonka on Oct 21, 2009 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Well between Huet and Campbell (who had a terrible turnover leading to the GWG for Vancouver tonight) Tallon is no stranger to horrific contracts.
Of all our iniquities ignorance may be the worst
by Killer_Carlson on Oct 21, 2009 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Campbell (who had a terrible turnover leading to the GWG for Vancouver tonight)
Take it to the OT, jerk. Someone else already pointed it out.
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gotta love the labre division rivalry.
by Natty Bumppo on Oct 21, 2009 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Don’t get testy just because your comment got ignored. The turnover comment was just an aside to the main point about Tallon giving out two contracts that are turning out to be equally big albatrosses as the Nylander contract.
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by Killer_Carlson on Oct 22, 2009 1:41 AM EDT up reply actions
Knights of Mars...
Tune him up a little.
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The key is to hit hard. With the bat.
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by Killer_Carlson on Oct 22, 2009 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions
I thought I knew the backstory behind this, but I’m confused. I know that Tallon was beloved by the players, notsomuch by the rest of management.
Did he “go back on his word”, allegedly, about something over the summer? The RFA offer debacle?
Supposedly there was a deal in place between the Caps and Hawks to send Nyls fof Byfuglien and Sopel (or something similar), but CHI backed out after accepting the deal (or having proposed it and had it accepted).
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What indication is there that he has been opposed to the idea of a trade in the past?
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None that I know of, and that’s not what I meant. I was pointing out that conditioning loans must me OK’d but the player, so Nyls is consenting to this. He has his NMC anyway, so it’s not a big deal.
"If you're gonna die after 24, might as well jump out at 23:59, no?"
by Laich It Or Lump It on Oct 21, 2009 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions
conditioning loans mustmebe OK’dbutby the player,
Wow. I suck at typing today.
"If you're gonna die after 24, might as well jump out at 23:59, no?"
by Laich It Or Lump It on Oct 21, 2009 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Us bored web guys can act quickly when motivated.
Maybe play with an edge, be a little more physical -- maybe be more of a prick out there.
You’re in charge of that site?
(I’m a “web guy” so I find your reply comical)
One guy just drove his semi as a float. I guess semis are cool.
Nope, I just know that we all share the same work ethic: We do things quickly when it interests us.
Maybe play with an edge, be a little more physical -- maybe be more of a prick out there.
Ever watch "The IT Crowd?"
I freaking LOVE that show.
I'm trying to work out a deal with a club in Europe
Any of those names stand out to you as blue chip prospects you’ve heard of? I know Abdelkader’s been called up several times, but the only one I recognize with a decent amount of NHL experience is Andy Delmore
Emmerton and McGrath are the only names I remember hearing as potential future NHLers among the forwards, though I don’t follow Detroit all that closely.
I’ll ask Mr. Bird, but Detroit isn’t particularly deep in prospects, iirc. Although they’re very good at keeping good prospects under wrap and then bam! they score on you and turn into stars.
I think part of that is that they had to bring up a lot of them in the offseason.
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So: GMGM has found a way to show Nylander without playing him. Not bad; do the caps gain anything else (besides hope) through this move?
No – he still counts against the cap and the 23-man roster.
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I suggest this does 2 things.
- One, gives Nyls some much needed exposure as a decent player.
- Two, assuming he produces (which he should), he will look pretty good playing against much less experienced guys.
Might even make some NHL teams look again if he really plays well.
If he stinks it up however…
Or he blows out an ACL when some slow-footed plumber gets beat and sticks out his knee to try to stop him.
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Not really, but it lets us exceed the cap. We still miht use the bonus cushion, tho, worse luck. (Someone correct me if I’m wrong.)
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GMGM has found a way to show Nylander without playing him.
Yup. All of the foreign teams were like, “Send him over here for a two-week tryout,” and GMGM was all like, “Nah, how about you send a scout to Michigan.”
"Let the rest be scared of us." - Sasha Semin
by Scott in Shaw on Oct 21, 2009 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions
The official release from the Caps:
Capitals Assign Center Michael Nylander to Grand Rapids for Conditioning Stint
ARLINGTON, Va. – The Washington Capitals have assigned center Michael Nylander to the Grand Rapids Griffins of the American Hockey League (AHL) on a conditioning stint, vice president and general manager George McPhee announced today.
Nylander, 37, has played 920 career NHL games for the Capitals, New York Rangers, Boston, Chicago, Tampa Bay, Calgary and Hartford. He has not played a game this season.
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Here's my interpretation of the news:
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Oct 21, 2009 3:01 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Here’s mine (and yes, it’s a repeat from earlier):
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by J.P. on Oct 21, 2009 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions 7 recs
I’ll rec it again, because that’s pretty much what i did too.
Fight, you time-wasting figure skaters!
I was more going for “dog and pony show” but yes, I’m also happy.
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by Gould Old Days on Oct 21, 2009 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Has anyone here ever SEEN a chicken?
"It's an incredible place. Every seat feels like it's right on top of you. So can't we just make it official? Every big American soccer game should be played in RFK. We need the home-field advantage. Done and done."
by Bald Pollack on Oct 21, 2009 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Hey, the Griffs are opening a new building this weekend.
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Oh, 19 Million will get you a better house than that.
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Oct 21, 2009 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Mellon Arena?
If you've read this far...seek help.
by ThePeerless on Oct 21, 2009 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Nah, Mellon Arena is more sturdily built and more claustrophobic.
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If it can hold up to this, it can hold up to anything:
"It's an incredible place. Every seat feels like it's right on top of you. So can't we just make it official? Every big American soccer game should be played in RFK. We need the home-field advantage. Done and done."
by Bald Pollack on Oct 21, 2009 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions
and running promotions to go with the opening…
http://griffinshockey.com/promos/promos/
reading about glow mugs…flashback to that horrible Caps opening night a few years ago, lol
The Detroit Red Wings have absolutely nothing to do with this transaction.
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by J.P. on Oct 21, 2009 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Nyls is still Caps property. He’s just on loan to the Griffins, not the Wings.
by RedBirdie on Oct 21, 2009 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
C’mon! Possession 9/10ths of the law? :-)
Tag, you’re it!
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by macvechkin on Oct 21, 2009 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I realize that. He could have gone to any team in the A. Is it really pure conicidence that he went to the farm club of a team that just lost a center for the season? Probably a pipe dream, but not the craziest thought ever, imo of course.
Check out the link to the Griffin’s roster that Cluster posted. They are ridiculously thin at C.
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Ha. Nyls has already been added to their website roster. Check it out.
by Cluster on Oct 21, 2009 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Seriously folks… the Wings interested in Nyls?
I guess stranger things have happened…
Character-starved team trades for characterless prim a dona forward as pathway to Cup.
I think the Wings got nothing to do with this. Possibly because JP said so. Also because it makes no sense for them.
This is the AHL team that has space for the guy and was willing to take him so he can show what he can do.
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Oct 21, 2009 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions
And a team that desperately needs a C.
If consequences dictate the course of action, then it doesn't matter what's right, it's only wrong if you get caught. If consequences dictate the course of action, then I should play God...
I don’t think that’s fair – Nyls hasn’t done much of anything to suggest he’s a primadonna or lacks character. If anything, he’s been the opposite.
by David Getz on Oct 21, 2009 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Indeed, he’s handled this situation better than probably 99.9% of all NHL players. In fact, my opinion of Nylander’s character, which was high before, has only risen with the professionalism he’s shown throughout all this. That said, I’m still trying to figure out how you can go on a conditioning assignment when you’re not hurt and practice fully with the Caps everyday. I need someone to explain that to me.
by b.orr4 on Oct 21, 2009 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I guess the theory is that practice shape <> game shape. He has skated in practices but nothing with game intensity.
If consequences dictate the course of action, then it doesn't matter what's right, it's only wrong if you get caught. If consequences dictate the course of action, then I should play God...
I get the feeling that Bettman just wants this thing to be done and won’t stand in the way of anything that might make it happen.
What gives you that feeling? To be honest I haven’t seen/heard anything official from Bettman about Nylander or the situation.
Because it has to be a bit of an embarrassment to the league to have a player like Nylander just sitting in limbo and all these constant rumors flying around daily. There probably isn’t a day that goes by that I don’t hear it mentioned on XM Home Ice or see a mention of it on Kukla’s Korner or some Puck Daddy. It’s not positive news for the league and nobody’s benefitting from this current situation.
If Gary Bettman is worried about an overpaid Swedish center rather than, say, securing a broadcast option for the customers/hockey fans that subscribe to a pretty large satellite company, then he REALLY needs to be let go.
"It's an incredible place. Every seat feels like it's right on top of you. So can't we just make it official? Every big American soccer game should be played in RFK. We need the home-field advantage. Done and done."
by Bald Pollack on Oct 21, 2009 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Right, and any bad PR over one player who doesn’t say much anyway is probably marginal.
"It's an incredible place. Every seat feels like it's right on top of you. So can't we just make it official? Every big American soccer game should be played in RFK. We need the home-field advantage. Done and done."
by Bald Pollack on Oct 21, 2009 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions
He’s no Jim Ballsilie if that’s what you mean. I’m not saying it’s a major concern for the NHL. Far from it, but it is a big issue for the Caps as evidenced by the fan reaction blowing up on all the related sites. And the NHL really is a very private club of 30 members, so anything that is a negative for one of those members is a concern to soem degree for the League. Is Bettman losing sleep over it? No. Would he like to have it resolved? Yes. Would he do anything he legally can to help the Caps get Nylander moved? Double yes. That’s all I’m saying.
I fail to see how it’s relevant in any way (positive or negative) way to the NHL. With all of the drama surrounding bigger issues (coughPhoenixcough) I’m guessing Bettman doesn’t think or care about how individual teams play their players (with the exception of elite players…which Nyls is not).
In a league of ~700 players, it’s a little embarrassing for one of the 100 highest paid players (#81 by cap hit) to be benched. A little embarrassing, not very embarrassing.
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Oct 21, 2009 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions
I bet if we put our minds to it we could think of atleast a dozen other things that should be fixed in the NHL before Bettman starts worrying about whether or not Michael Nylander is sitting in the press box during a game.
REUNITE THE PATRICK DIVISION!
END THE SHOOTOUT!
Sorry, I don’t know what came over me there.
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Oct 21, 2009 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Ha. That sounds like you think it would require effort.
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I get the feeling that Bettman just wants this thing to be done and won’t stand in the way of anything that might make it happen.
But at this point we’re debating semantics. My original question was in response to this, and my question was answered, there is no documented evidence regarding Bettman even giving the Nylander issue a moment’s thought.
And since he still counts against the roster-limit and cap, there’s no circumvention going on here with which the League would concern itself.
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The Detroit Red Wings have absolutely nothing to do with this transaction. This is a deal between the Washington Capitals (NHL) and Grand Rapids Griffins (AHL).
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I suspect they got a courtesy call about it, since it’s their prospects that might be impacted by it. No, they don’t necessarily control it, but I can’t think that they wouldn’t be aware of it / involved with it our of sheer professional courtesy.
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Indeed they did (and from the sounds of it, more than just a courtesy call, so I’d clarify my “absolutely nothing” to refer solely to the proprietary rights in the player).
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When was Nyls dubbed a prim a donna? All he’s done is sit in the booth with his mouth shut.
I'm so sick and tired of the refs explaining the calls like this is the NFL.
yeah, he’s been anything but a prima donna. I’m sure he’s had ample opportunity to vent to the local press since training camp opened, but has not.
by RedBirdie on Oct 21, 2009 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Arguably, for refusing to change his style of game to match the team’s needs. I’m not convinced that criticism is fair, but there’s something to it.
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Oct 21, 2009 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Valid point, though I’d think that more “stubborn” than “prima donna.” Maybe a distinction without a difference, but I’d think that the way he’s handled the benching would pretty much take “prima donna” off the table.
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Plenty of difference. We’re not dealing with an NFL wideout here.
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Also it’s not like they are trying to teach a youngin’ a new system. This is a mid-30’s player that’s had a style for over a decade. There’s something to the saying “You can’t teach an old dog new tricks.”
Also, we don’t really know how much effort he is/isn’t putting in to fitting into Bruce’s system, which may be part of it.
by Steckel Me Elmo on Oct 21, 2009 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions
He’s never been the fastest north-south guy. He’s just very shifty and a slick passer. That’s not how BB wants to play (SOB line notwithstanding) so I just think it’s a poor fit no matter what Nyls or BB want/try to do.
If consequences dictate the course of action, then it doesn't matter what's right, it's only wrong if you get caught. If consequences dictate the course of action, then I should play God...
Maybe he’s just not physically able to change his style of game? Anything could really be the case why you don’t fit on the ice, but if anything, that’s mindset, not ego.
I'm so sick and tired of the refs explaining the calls like this is the NFL.
Agreed
The dude was in his mid-30s when Boudreau came on board. It’s not his fault that his skills didn’t match the system.
That being said, he could have at least tried to cut down on the lazy stick infractions. Those drove me nuts, especially when they followed an egregious twirling turnover in our end.
I'm trying to work out a deal with a club in Europe
In fairness, it’s not like there’s anyone on this team immune from HHT penalties.
I'm so sick and tired of the refs explaining the calls like this is the NFL.
by Whiter Mage on Oct 21, 2009 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions
That’s rather harsh, don’t you think? He hasn’t worked out for the Caps. Played a good part of 07-08 with one shoulder. Don’t see how this makes him a shitty dude.
by mechanicsville on Oct 21, 2009 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions
I just want to say I’m not feeling all the personal insults, harm, and general negativity being thrown towards Nylander. I’m not a fan of his but I still don’t think any of this is his fault and he has handled this entire ordeal in a way that I find extremely impressive.
I have a sense or humor and I want him gone too but it’s all just getting to be a bit too much.
/serious hat.
One guy just drove his semi as a float. I guess semis are cool.
by zephyr on Oct 21, 2009 3:18 PM EDT reply actions 14 recs
Quite so. He’s a skilled player and (by all indications) a respectable person — his failure to fit in with this Washington Capitals team is not a sign of anything other than the fact that he doesn’t fit in with this Washington Capitals team. And that GMGM made a contracting decision that has hamstrung him a bit.
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by CapitalCentre on Oct 21, 2009 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Agree. and the guy’s 35 (36) and he has had an extremely successful career with other teams. It’s too bad he doesn’t fit here, but then again, that’s not necessarily his fault (you can only adapt so much). Let’s not hate :(
Don’t hate the player, hate the contract.
If consequences dictate the course of action, then it doesn't matter what's right, it's only wrong if you get caught. If consequences dictate the course of action, then I should play God...
As true as that may be, let’s not act like the guy is living up to it. His skills have greatly diminished to the point where we can’t even devote to him a niche role.
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We all know he’s nowhere near living up to his contract, however, he is still a skilled player. He just, at his age, isn’t as creative and as speedy and as athletic as the other players on the team, nor can he circumvent that by playing an important specific role like Knuble or Laing.
by red army line on Oct 22, 2009 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Wait a second — something happened? I didn’t think that was allowed in this play.
What does it mean? What does any of it mean?
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Oct 21, 2009 3:18 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Grand Rapids must be the Theater of the Absurd. Either way, rec’d.
"It's an incredible place. Every seat feels like it's right on top of you. So can't we just make it official? Every big American soccer game should be played in RFK. We need the home-field advantage. Done and done."
by Bald Pollack on Oct 21, 2009 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions
CI ASPLODE
with people saying they have inside information that Nylander is joining the Red Wings.
Be still, my rolling eyes.
Maybe play with an edge, be a little more physical -- maybe be more of a prick out there.
It’s going to be Hilarious over there, the GMGM/Nylander/CI axis of weevil with its first big game of the season.
Small ugly insects?
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Well, he is a veteran and he is Swedish. Seriously, someone like Lidstrom could have put in a good word for him with Jimmy D.
FAR more comments here than CI. I wonder who really asploded.
I'm so sick and tired of the refs explaining the calls like this is the NFL.
He said it “asploded with people saying they have inside information that Nylander is joining the Red Wings.”
I think it’s just great that we can find out so quickly. With props to Cory re: Holtby, let’s give Tarik his due too. This new media revelation is pretty freaking awesome.
by gnuf on Oct 21, 2009 3:40 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
Grand Rapids Owes Us
Their GM Bob McNamara is the guy who recommended Bruce Cassidy to McPhee. He should not only take N\ylander, he should pay half his salary :-)
by b.orr4 on Oct 21, 2009 3:49 PM EDT reply actions 5 recs
Former Griffins include:
Ivan Ciernik
Jason Doig
Alexandre Giroux
Bryan Helmer
Joel Kwiatkowski
Glen Metropolit
Kevin Miller
Kip Miller
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Because they don’t play NHL games with their AHL squad.
by David Getz on Oct 21, 2009 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Well, they’ve got a very impressive list of alums overall. I was just dredging up some names from Caps’ past.
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Gruden :)
Also, they weren’t affiliated with the Red Wings during the tenure of all of those players. Some years they were independent, I believe, but I know there was a time when they were affiliated with the Sens. The Detroit affiliation started somewhere around ’02 or ’03.
Europe
The Wings don’t necessarily stash their prospects in the AHL, often they bring them over directly from top-tier Euro leagues.
I'm trying to work out a deal with a club in Europe
Even then, I don’t think they’re dripping in prospect talent. They just do a great job of developing the guys with potential that they get.
by red army line on Oct 22, 2009 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Don’t forget Harry Potter and George Weasley.
One guy just drove his semi as a float. I guess semis are cool.
by zephyr on Oct 21, 2009 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
You left out Brian Wilsie…
There was a reason these guys were playing in the AHL for Grand Rapids….they were minor league players
That era in Caps history should be long forgotten, please…
Let's go Caps!
by MikeL-Pivonka on Oct 21, 2009 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions
That era in Caps history should be long forgotten, please…
That era allowed the team to acquire parts of today’s team.
That era did, but none of the names above were parted with during the Fire Sale….those were the guys left behind here…
Let's go Caps!
by MikeL-Pivonka on Oct 22, 2009 9:19 AM EDT up reply actions
On a funny side note, when my email spell checks Nylander it’s first option is Cylinder. That makes me laugh.
An explanation cannot be as simple as connecting the dots as such 1) we see a link regarding a KHL team’s interest in Nylander turning sour because of his inactivity, then within hours, 2) he is off to the AHL for conditioning to rectify said inactivity.
Or is it?
well, at least Puck Daddy got some snark out of it.
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Nyls was happy to be sent to Grand Rapids as soon as he was assured Nolan Yonkman was not on their roster.
I have as many wins in a Capitals uniform as Michael Belhumeur does.
by marky narc on Oct 21, 2009 5:18 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Nylander interview with Swedish TV. A bit in English but mostly in Swedish. I’m not sure if you can watch it outside of Sweden though.
They say different things to different people(Caps brass). It’s a sensitive situation, I’ve gotten to that stage in my career where I make a lot of money and It looks like the Club wants to play other players and my salary prevents that from happening.
Nylander says that he just wants to play and right now this Club (Grand Rapids) gives him that opportunity and he is planing on making the best out of the situation.
by Malin A on Oct 21, 2009 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Possibly this reference is not hitting its mark.
I'm trying to work out a deal with a club in Europe
I was busy translating but I’m not your buddy, pal or whatever we are up to. 3- ways are always messy.
A Swedish girl talking about messy 3-ways… I love The Rink.
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by Rob Parker on Oct 21, 2009 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I need to uphold our reputation. “Den Svenska Synden”.
by Malin A on Oct 21, 2009 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Vad är det för fel på onani? Det är ju sex med någon du älskar
"I tried to capture the spirit of the thing"
by tuvanhillbilly on Oct 21, 2009 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Sorry, I’ve been glued to Borderlands. Haven’t really been paying attention.
What’s this about Circles needing conditioner? Isn’t he bald?
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by winterion on Oct 21, 2009 6:02 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Oh, wait. Conditioning. So.. you mean, like, while he hasn’t been playing any hockey, he hasn’t had the free time to, say, condition? Rugrats at home should at least help with cardio and deadlift for the crawlers. What’s left? Making sure he hasn’t forgotten how to double back, look around, try to buy time, and give the puck to the wing pressing him?
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i realize i’m a bit late on posting my thoughts but i find the “conditioning” classification peculiar. I mean, wasn’t it just a few weeks ago when camp started that all the press was, “Nylander is in the best shape of his life. …. He’s added 15 lbs of muscle. … he’s the hardest skater at practice. …. etc etc.” I understand saying that to make him more appealing but I got to believe (as been thrown around here) one of two scenario’s are occuring very soon;
1) He’s doing this so the KHL can see him in real game time – to appease the recent quotes/press. blah blah blah
OR
2) Maybe Holland is sniffing around knowing he can get Nylander for pennies on the dollar. I mean they are a veteran team who just lost a key C for the year (Franzen) and Nylander could fill a void without it being a long-term commitment. (They could flip him next year when his NMC goes void). Afterall, it was an arrangement worked out by Holland and GMGM (not GMGM and AHL as many posters said earlier above). Before you roast me – think about it.
get Nylander for pennies on the dollar
I wish this was possible. Unfortunately, with this CBA, his contract goes with him, and there’s no real way around that. I hope they sort that out in the next CBA — this situation isn’t good for anyone.
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Oct 22, 2009 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Franzen from what I’ve seen of him doesn’t play C, he plays W with Zetterberg or with Filppula. My knowledge may be outdated on that though. Point is, DET doesn’t need a scoring line center (which is the only role Nylander can play).
by red army line on Oct 22, 2009 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Franzen plays C/W just like Hank. It all depends on how Babcock wants to use him. He’ll also be back by the end of the year so at some point DET won’t be able to afford Nyls and Franzen so there is no point for DET to pick up Nyls in the short term.
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Either way, Detroit has plenty of NHL centers. No need for another.
by red army line on Oct 22, 2009 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Don’t think so – unless I’m mistaken, the contract-matching phenomenon in the NBA is caused by rules that allow teams to make trades when over the cap as long as the salaries are within a certain percentage of each other. It’s an extension of the rules that allow you to go over the cap to re-sign your players and sign players under certain exemptions. In other words, if a NBA team wanted to offload a $10m contract on a team with $10m in cap space and take nothing back, I think they could.
I don’t think the NHL has an equivalent to this, since it’s a hard cap (aside from the LTIR business), but I’m sure someone here can correct me if I’m wrong.
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