Michael Nylander to Switzerland?
by J.P. on Oct 16, 2009 8:20 AM EDT
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The latest rumor in The Michael Nylander Saga has Swiss team HC Lugano (a team with a couple of familiar names on the roster already) interested in acquiring the services of the Swedish pivot. Per Google's translation:
Swiss Lugano, with the Swedish coach Kent Johansson ... is reportedly willing to pay Michael Nylander one million Swiss francs net, equivalent to almost seven million [Swedish krona], after taxes.
Perhaps fanning the flames of this rumor? The fact that Nylander played for Lugano in 1996-97 (and that rich people dig Switzerland). Stay tuned.
(H/t Ice Warrior on the Expressen link and TBL on that last one)
Update: To clarify, Nylander will make $5.5 million this year and not a penny more or less. Lugano could compensate the Caps as part of a transfer agreement, but they cannot pay Nylander directly. For more "Nylander-to-Europe" FAQs, check out our post on the subject.
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And next week on Where In The World Is Michael Nylander Not Going… Slovenia!!!
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Oct 16, 2009 8:42 AM EDT reply actions 2 recs
Btw, caption to the pic in the post: “Hey, who can give me a lift to Dulles?”
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by J.P. on Oct 16, 2009 8:44 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Juice’s taxi service:
“Service with a schnoz”
Maybe play with an edge, be a little more physical -- maybe be more of a prick out there.
by jordanDC on Oct 16, 2009 8:46 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Either GMGM or the intern from “The Real World”.
IS PAЯTY NOW
by Your Nation's Capital on Oct 16, 2009 8:47 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ok guys have fun, good luck and I got $5.5M for not much work… peace out.
by vt caps fan on Oct 16, 2009 9:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If he accepts the deal I’d bet GMGM gets him his very own limo to go.
If you're after gettin' the honey, then you don't go killin' all them bees.
by Fehr and Balanced on Oct 16, 2009 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
With a personal driver, so he can be among the elite.
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by gotsparkly on Oct 16, 2009 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would personally pull the rickshaw to Dulles barefoot in the rain over broken glass and uphill both ways.
by SethB on Oct 16, 2009 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Since when does it rain in DC? ….Oh yea
by MetalCap on Oct 16, 2009 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Because now I can justify browsing and commenting during the work day with the argument that I am promoting my business.
by Sombrero Guy on Oct 16, 2009 9:16 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
For those who want to know, the one million Swiss francs is equal to 979,528 USD according to google.
by David M. Getz on Oct 16, 2009 9:24 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I noticed that as well…and it begs the question as to why he would go play for roughly 1/4 of his current salary. (yes yes I know that he gets paid his NHL salary regardless of where he endsup)
by Yoshietree on Oct 16, 2009 9:30 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Right. And he presumably won’t get any of the money from the European team. That money would go to the Caps.
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Oct 16, 2009 9:48 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Caps will pay Nylander $5.5m this year. There is a possibility that an acquiring club could essentially pay a portion of that (by paying it directly to the Caps). If the acquiring club were to pay him in addition to the $5.5m, the NHL would have a big problem with that.
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by J.P. on Oct 16, 2009 9:54 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t understand the question – he’s not playing for roughly 1/4 of his current salary, he’s getting paid, as you note, his full salary no matter where he plays (or doesn’t play).
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by J.P. on Oct 16, 2009 9:52 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think I was just confused by Johansson’s statement regarding paying Nylander 1 milllion Swiss francs. I read that to mean that that would be Nyl’s salary with the team.
I think the point I was trying to make (pre-coffee) is that, to me, this rumor is less realistic than the KHL rumors as Nyls is going to be paid his NHL salary regardless of where he is playing, not ~1 million dollars.
by Yoshietree on Oct 16, 2009 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’d chalk it up to something being lost in translation and/or misunderstood by the reporter. The fact is, Lugano could pay ~$1m and have Michael Nylander on their team – the mechanics of it, though, are more detailed than that.
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by J.P. on Oct 16, 2009 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If both the Caps and Nylander agree, they can just void the contract and have him walk, right?
Maybe play with an edge, be a little more physical -- maybe be more of a prick out there.
by jordanDC on Oct 16, 2009 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sort of…Nylander could retire from the NHL and sign to play in another league, I believe.
But I don’t see any reason he’d walk away from $8.5 million.
by David M. Getz on Oct 16, 2009 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Right – “retire” and play for ~$1m dollars in Switzerland or don’t retire and play for $5.5m dollars in Switzerland (and have $3m more coming next year). Tough choice.
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by J.P. on Oct 16, 2009 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If both the Caps and Nylander agree, they can just void the contract and have him walk, right?
There’s a specific mechanism for this in the CBA — the buyout. I don’t think the Players’ Association would let the Caps and Nylander just walk away — they’d want the buyout rule enforced. I suspect they might even fight over DMG’s “retirement” loophole.
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Oct 16, 2009 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And depending on how old Nyls was at the time he signed the deal (I’m blanking on it and can’t look right now), he’d still be on the books if he retired.
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by J.P. on Oct 16, 2009 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m 99% sure it’s not a 35+ K, so he can retire and clear the cap space (but won’t).
If you're after gettin' the honey, then you don't go killin' all them bees.
by Fehr and Balanced on Oct 16, 2009 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That was my recollection as well.
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by J.P. on Oct 16, 2009 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He was 34, by about two months.
by David M. Getz on Oct 16, 2009 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
See, Flyers, this is how it’s done. Or not.
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by J.P. on Oct 16, 2009 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The day that counts is the day the contract itself begins. The Flyers’ error was to sign Pronger when he was 34 to a contract that would begin when he was 35 (he still had time left on his previous contract).
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Oct 16, 2009 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Right-o. Joke fails for lack of precision.
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by J.P. on Oct 16, 2009 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Of course, per the Flyers: “we knew that”.
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by macvechkin on Oct 16, 2009 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Doesn’t he get the remaining $$$ even if he retires?
by Ninjak on Oct 16, 2009 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No – if you retire, you’ve essentially voided the contract by deciding not to fulfill your end of it. Otherwise you’d run the risk of players signing huge deals they never intend to fulfill and laughing all the way to the bank.
by David M. Getz on Oct 16, 2009 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Right. If Chris Pronger retires in 2 or 3 years, he won’t get paid, but his salary will count against the Flyers’ cap. It’ll be empty space.
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Oct 16, 2009 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
(Assuming the new CBA doesn’t re-jigger things and give them an out of some sort.)
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by J.P. on Oct 16, 2009 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Right – "retire" and play for ~$1m dollars in Switzerland
and become GMGM’s best friend! Can’t put a price on friendship.
by hockeyman33 on Oct 16, 2009 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can see the Mastercard ad now.
“Bailing out a friend in need and being the ultimate team player… priceless.”
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by J.P. on Oct 17, 2009 8:18 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hard to say – from the team’s perspective it’s more or less the same. They’d be paying that much for his services. So while the money wouldn’t go directly to Nylander, I wouldn’t discount it so much on those grounds.
I, for one, love these rumors. They give me hope.
by grapejoos on Oct 16, 2009 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wake me up when he’s on the plane.
This rumor business is getting a little old.
I actually preferred the “Nylander for Kaberle” (hold on…I need to stop my hysterical laughter) or “Nylander to Edmonton” rumors.
by marks4java on Oct 16, 2009 9:29 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If only the prisoners at Gitmo had as many countries willing to take them in.
by b.orr4 on Oct 16, 2009 9:40 AM EDT reply actions 4 recs
Astonishingly...
…there are more countries that have taken Gitmo prisoners than have taken one Nylander…
Let's go Caps!
by MikeL-Caps on Oct 16, 2009 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Until he’s gone, I am going to be sick of reading these “rumor” threads. Isn’t this like the 50th rumor this year? New one every week.
by bigeugene on Oct 16, 2009 10:01 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
No like-y, no read-y.
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by J.P. on Oct 16, 2009 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
(And when the Caps visit Childrens’ hospital)
Know Laich-ey, know reading
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Oct 16, 2009 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wish I could do that, but my primal instincts take over and I have to read every word of every thread. :)
by bigeugene on Oct 16, 2009 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Heh. I hear that.
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by J.P. on Oct 16, 2009 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dreams
Sigh – I’m so sick of this that I actually had a dream last night that the Caps were in the first round of the playoffs and about to lose Game 7, but Nylander was in uniform because of injuries and he scored two goals to help the Caps advance.
I need to get a life.
by STLEdge on Oct 16, 2009 10:26 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The Caps in a tight first round Game 7? Unpossible!
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by J.P. on Oct 16, 2009 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I need to get a life.
Not to mention an avatar. Cash prizes and big dreams are yours.
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by Bald Pollack on Oct 16, 2009 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
“No actual cash prizes or big dreams available. This message required by law. The message stating that this message is required by law is required by law.”
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Oct 16, 2009 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
To clarify:
We will still pay the dude, but he’ll be off our cap calculations, correct?
by snowburnt on Oct 16, 2009 10:35 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If he was transferred, yes. Check out the link at the end of the post for this and other FAQs.
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by J.P. on Oct 16, 2009 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think it’s time to parse and simplify the CBA, rules, etc. into one easily managed Wiki. Hmm.
I’m guessing there’s no easy way to integrate a Wiki into the SBN CMS though…
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by winterion on Oct 16, 2009 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh nyls, you big tease. we should definitely have a japers’ rink celebratory happy hour if this ever goes down.
by Natty Bumppo on Oct 16, 2009 10:43 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Don’t know if this has been discussed, but TEB had something interesting this morning that explains why a deal hasn’t gone down with a Russian team:
I was told before the game that a few Russian teams remain interested in Michael Nylander’s services. Those teams, however, have demanded that the veteran come over for a tryout before they’ll enter into a loan agreement with the Caps.
Seems to me that GMGM is only being prudent by insisting on an “as-is” deal. This Lugano deal feels right…
by grapejoos on Oct 16, 2009 11:16 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Why would GMGM insist on “as-is” – there’s no reason to think he’s anything but healthy, and GMGM himself wouldn’t in a hundred years make a deal without his med staff clearing he incoming player(s).
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by J.P. on Oct 16, 2009 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed. To me it sounds like the issue might be on the player’s end.
by David M. Getz on Oct 16, 2009 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That’s how I read this
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Oct 16, 2009 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
To me it sounds like the issue might beonthe player’s end.
Russian Machine Never Breaks
by macvechkin on Oct 16, 2009 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Because, if you’re GMGM, you don’t want to send him over for a tryout and have him either (a) get hurt or (b) suck. If either of those things happen, it seems to me that no other team in the world would take him. I’m interpreting "tryout’ as being different from “physical.” Of course the other teams will insist that he’s healthy.
Of course, DMG’s point that Nylander might not be willing to do it is also a distinct possibility. But as long as GMGM thinks there is a team out there that would take him without a tryout, I don’t think it makes sense for him to agree to one.
by grapejoos on Oct 16, 2009 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Because, if you’re GMGM, you don’t want to send him over for a tryout and have him either (a) get hurt or (b) suck.
I dunno. If he’s hurt long term, it might open up cap space. If he’s hurt short term or stinks, the Caps are in the same position they’re in right now. Sure it could hurt the odds of him being loaned in the future, but it seems like the risk would be well worth it.
But, as you said, if McPhee can loan him without a tryout, that’s ideal. Hard to say for sure without knowing exactly what’s going on behind the scenes.
by David M. Getz on Oct 16, 2009 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed, this is all speculation about speculation. But whether it’s GMGM or Nyls, the tryout issue does seem to be a potential snag here.
by grapejoos on Oct 16, 2009 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I still can’t imagine there’s any snag that GMGM is causing.
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by J.P. on Oct 16, 2009 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe he got a really bad splinter while he was sitting on the bench…
"And next year it will be ours."
by Ovechwin on Oct 16, 2009 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He can only wish he made it as far as the bench. The chairs in the press box are very cushy and have no splinters.
by b.orr4 on Oct 16, 2009 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Long-TERM-I-R-clap-clap-clapclapclap
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by macvechkin on Oct 16, 2009 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Could GMGM put Nyls on LITR? and therefore have him off the cap
by hockeyman33 on Oct 16, 2009 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If he isn’t injured, no.
"And next year it will be ours."
by Ovechwin on Oct 16, 2009 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
but it’s ONLY LOGICAL that holmgren and pronger have a deal in place to put #20 on LTIR.
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by Natty Bumppo on Oct 17, 2009 7:56 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That’s a bad case of the clap to land you on LTIR.
If you're after gettin' the honey, then you don't go killin' all them bees.
by Fehr and Balanced on Oct 16, 2009 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lugano
Huet played for HC Lugano a while back…
by Ninjak on Oct 16, 2009 11:20 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think this whole Post qualifies for CIed…
by bigity b on Oct 16, 2009 3:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I must have missed something
What’s a Cled?
I'm trying to work out a deal with a club in Europe
by D'ohboy on Oct 16, 2009 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Capitals Insider’ed.
CI’ed usually follows a snarky obviously over the top comment that one would only find left by some of the crazies that post on Tarik’s blog now.
Because now I can justify browsing and commenting during the work day with the argument that I am promoting my business.
by Sombrero Guy on Oct 16, 2009 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Aha.
Were there ever anything but crazies on that site?
Scratch that, I think I posted there a few years ago.
Wait, scratch that. I’m nuts.
I'm trying to work out a deal with a club in Europe
by D'ohboy on Oct 16, 2009 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
all of us slightly crazy but still in control of our mental faculties post here now :)
by RedBirdie on Oct 16, 2009 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's OFFICIAL
It’s official now. No one really knows what’s happening with Michael Nylander.
But Brawndo's got what plants crave. It's got electrolytes.
by hotdog88gt on Oct 16, 2009 3:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Can I haz Nylander?
Signed,
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by S h a g g y on Oct 16, 2009 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
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