Recap: Red Wings 3, Capitals 2
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For a team with the talent and expectations of the Washington Capitals, there's really no such thing as a moral victory. But it was nice to see the team come out with more effort, more willingness to dig around the corners, to hit and to let themselves be hit and to prove they can play with the NHL's elite. So once again the Capitals have demonstrated they can play with the best teams in the NHL - when they want to.
While it'd be easy for fans to take comfort in the fact that the Caps can hang with the best, it's impossible not to believe that their poor performances against mediocre teams are costing them on nights like tonight. If the Capitals were truly striving to improve each and every game the breakouts would be a little smoother, the passes a little crisper, and the restraining penalties fewer. In short, you can't keep in top form if don't give full effort every time out.
Ten additional thoughts on tonight's game:
- There's no shortage of people ready to let them have it when referees make mistakes, so we'll take this little bit of space to acknowledge them for doing well: the decision to keep play alive after the net was knocked off it's moorings in the moments before Brendan Morrison's goal took some guts and was the right call.
- It's fun to watch Shaone Morrisonn play with a mean streak, isn't it?
- The Caps defensemen have developed a new habit, likely due to Bob Woods' influence: dumping the puck in to the corner from the point, and we love it. After all, there's no rule that says you can't play the puck in deep just because you've already gained the zone.
- Derek Meech is lucky that he wasn't shown the gate for his hit on Quintin Laing.
- Last week (and last spring) it was Mike Green's stick's fault that he wasn't playing well. Now he thinks it's his gloves. The questions we have about that twofold: why didn't he resolve this situation over the summer or training camp, and how does this contribute to the fact that he has now taken six minor penalties in five games, five of which have been restraining fouls and four of which have been HHT penalties?
- When Nicklas Backstrom bears down on an opposing goalie with his hair spilling out of the side of his helmet I imagine the goalie must suddenly get the feeling he knows exactly what Dennis Nedry's final moments were like.
- In a shot- or scoring chance-quality sense, there's no way Matt Bradley deserved his goal. In a karmic sense that takes into account all the other good things Bradley did for the team - relentless forechecking, drawing a penalties, and blocking shots - he couldn't have deserved it more.
- Brian Pothier got pushed around on the play that led to Ville Leino's goal, but good on him for getting more physical after that point.
- When Pavel Datsyuk beat out Mike Richards for the Selke Trophy last season I was adamant that Richards had been robbed. After tonight's game I'm not so sure.
- If the Capitals didn't have Mike Knuble or Brooks Laich, would they set Tom Poti up in front of the net on the powerplay? He's been awfully good at screening goaltenders lately.
On the bright side, the team seems like they're back on track in terms of effort and "compete level". Let's hope it stays that way.
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A Jurassic Park reference? Rec’d for bringing back some island memories.
"Good crowd out there tonight, boys, let's really try to win this one."
Traitorous Nedry in the postgame: I can dig it. Backstrom is the raptor’s meow all right.
by redlineblue on Oct 10, 2009 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions
It was a good effort, but it’s still a loss, unfortunately. They took fewer penalties but taking a penalty late in the 3rd of a tie game is not a good idea, esp. when the opposing team is as good as Detroit.
Still, the effort was there, they competed, and they’re not going to play an opponent that good every night…
Let's go Caps!
The effort was better tonight but the Caps still were outworked by the Red Wings in all three periods.
by cuqui on Oct 10, 2009 10:52 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
The effort may have been better than the Rags game, but that’s not a high bar. And the smarts most definitely were not there.
If you're after gettin' the honey, then you don't go killin' all them bees.
by Rob Parker on Oct 10, 2009 10:57 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
The Red Wings disappeared Nick Backstrom tonight. Was also disappointing to see AO back to taking the puck down left wing time after time after time with nowhere to go with it. If not for JT60 this was a 6-2 or 7-2 game.
But Brawndo's got what plants crave. It's got electrolytes.
Did you see how hard the Wings triple teamed AO when he entered the zone? That is what the whole league will stop doing if he doesn’t let someone else carry the mail (though less skilled teams are going to get burned if they consistently commit 3 guys to AO).
If you're after gettin' the honey, then you don't go killin' all them bees.
Did not see the game tonight—were Carebears united?
from the house that Red Jesus built
by bigonetimer on Oct 10, 2009 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions
In the sense that they were all on the same line together, yeah.
"Good crowd out there tonight, boys, let's really try to win this one."
by Bald Pollack on Oct 10, 2009 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
how did Fehr look?
from the house that Red Jesus built
by bigonetimer on Oct 10, 2009 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Pretty good, I thought. I’d keep the line with him and Steckel for a bit.
If you’ll excuse me, time to get stinking drunk to celebrate the US into the World Cup.
"Good crowd out there tonight, boys, let's really try to win this one."
by Bald Pollack on Oct 11, 2009 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
indeed…Miller High Life!
from the house that Red Jesus built
by bigonetimer on Oct 11, 2009 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions
So if it’s 1 on 3 with AO having the puck, it’s 4 on 2 in favor of WSH elsewhere on the ice. Is this AO not following the game plan? Do we take it as a sign that the Caps’ have given up on the game plan?
But Brawndo's got what plants crave. It's got electrolytes.
Well the Caps’ 4 on 2 in that situation is in the neutral zone or D zone and AO is attacking. You don’t want him to move the puck backwards there but I’d like to see him slow up and let his teammates enter the zone with him more often.
If you're after gettin' the honey, then you don't go killin' all them bees.
Green: What's the real deal here?
a) Is he hurt and still playing?
b) Is he a one-year wonder?
c) Is he a head case?
d) Is he as bad as he looks?
e) Will the Caps trade him?
Steven Seagal’s coming over to borrow some soy sauce and kick your arse for not having an avatar.
"Good crowd out there tonight, boys, let's really try to win this one."
by Bald Pollack on Oct 10, 2009 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions
What's the deal with the Avatar police lately?
I have them turned off, so none you’s have ’em. So there.
Your favorite meme is dead
Some of us have them as per a resolution from the bossman. You wouldn’t want to annoy the boss, would you?
"Good crowd out there tonight, boys, let's really try to win this one."
by Bald Pollack on Oct 11, 2009 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions
He’s going to turn 24 tomorrow, and his career has been charmed so far. He’s due for a slump. He’s due for a little adversity – a little of the shortcuts he’s been taking not working anymore. This is what veterans are made of.
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Oct 11, 2009 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions
Time for concern and action?
Is it simply too early to be concerned? Theodore was great tonight, he truly was. The Caps still take too many penalties and Semin/Green were good for 2 Detroit goals. Look at what Detroit lost from last year and compare to this year and they still beat down a healthy Caps squad.
CAPS ARE OVER-RATED by a long shot. I’m sorry to say, but they aren’t that good. Fancy players, individual talent, no team work.
They aren’t good right now. They’re plenty good; don’t get your panties in a bunch.
That said, Mike Green…wow.
from the house that Red Jesus built
by bigonetimer on Oct 10, 2009 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions
just a theory
well before I get to my point, yes it’s too damned early to get panicked. Dude, we’re 5 games in. 2 years ago we were dead last on new years day and still made the playoffs, so to hit the panic button 5 games into the season is absolutely absurd.
as for my theory…maybe I’m being conspiratorial, but what if Green’s shoulder injury was worse than let on. As in, he needed surgery but that surgery would’ve left him ineligible to participate in team Canada’s Olympic workouts.
And in other news…
Hershey 8 – Bingo 1
Alzner and Carlson, each a plus-4.
If you've read this far...seek help.
by ThePeerless on Oct 11, 2009 12:05 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
The Bears allowed a goal? The Caps future is certainly lost forever!
But Brawndo's got what plants crave. It's got electrolytes.
Yeah, two goals in three games.
Bunch o’ sieves.
If you've read this far...seek help.
by ThePeerless on Oct 11, 2009 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions
So looking forward to the day Alzner stays here.
"Camaraderie, that's what the Washington Capitals are all about."
by CapitalCentre on Oct 11, 2009 9:35 AM EDT up reply actions
If the Capitals didn’t have Mike Knuble or Brooks Laich, would they set Tom Poti up in front of the net on the powerplay? He’s been awfully good at screening goaltenders lately.
Well done sir.
Actually, that was Jeff Schultz wearing #3.
Signed,
Caps Fans
If you've read this far...seek help.
by ThePeerless on Oct 11, 2009 12:15 AM EDT up reply actions
Current Standings:
1 Pittsburgh Penguins 8
2 Calgary Flames 8
3 Philadelphia Flyers 7
4 New York Rangers 6
5 Ottawa Senators 6
6 Columbus Blue Jackets 6
7 Los Angeles Kings 6
8 Buffalo Sabres 5
9 Chicago Blackhawks 5
10 Colorado Avalanche 5
11 Edmonton Oilers 5
12 Anaheim Ducks 5
13 Washington Capitals 5
14 Atlanta Thrashers 4
15 Nashville Predators 4
16 Dallas Stars 4
17 St Louis Blues 4
18 San Jose Sharks 4
19 Detroit Red Wings 4
20 Boston Bruins 4
21 New Jersey Devils 4
22 Phoenix Coyotes 4
23 Tampa Bay Lightning 4
24 Carolina Hurricanes 4
25 Montréal Canadiens 4
26 New York Islanders 3
27 Minnesota 2
28 Vancouver Canucks 2
29 Florida Panthers 2
30 Toronto Maple Leafs 1
Wow, the Avalanche are better than us right now.
It’s so frustrating to lose games by 1 goal because of last minute penalties. We better not be down by 1 in the last period against NJ on Monday.
Someone needs to have a one-on one with Green.
PIM:
1 Mike Green 12
2 John Erskine 11
3 Matt Bradley 7
4 Alexander Semin 6
5 Boyd Gordon 6
6 Alex Ovechkin 4
7 Chris Clark 4
8 Milan Jurcina 4
9 Mike Knuble 2
10 Boyd Kane 2
11 Jeff Schultz 2
12 Brooks Laich 2
13 Eric Fehr WSH 0
14 David Steckel 0
15 Shaone Morrisonn 0
16 Tyler Sloan 0
17 Brian Pothier 0
18 Quintin Laing 0
19 Tom Poti 0
20 Brendan Morrison 0
21 Nicklas Backstrom 0
Ok, I’m going back to bed now.
Because both of Semin’s penalties last night were god-awful.
by Yoshietree on Oct 11, 2009 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Frankly, both of Green’s penalties were costly. The Caps had “technically” skated off Green’s first penalty but they hadn’t cleared the crease at the end of it and Detroit’s guys were all at the net and kept poking and poking and finally got it in.
Green’s second penalty was the ultimate one that costed us.
And Boyd Gordon. Didn’t he only get 8 penalties last year?
by hockeyman33 on Oct 11, 2009 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Speaking of penalties, how does Pittsburgh manage to get away with taking so many? The Pens have had so many guys going to the box, it’s not funny, yet they still keep winning.
And Malkin has 16 penalty minutes already for this year, including 4 minor penalties in one game. More than Green and Semin and Boyd Gordon.
Yet another stat about Backstrom to love…
by markbona-capsfan99 on Oct 11, 2009 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions
I find it sad that we’ve been reduced to talking about a good effort like the guys are in kindergarten. “Good effort” is the kind of praise you’d give a team in its rebuilding years…this team SHOULD be way beyond that now.
by SeattleCapsFan on Oct 11, 2009 9:34 AM EDT reply actions 5 recs
Well said. Effort should be a given…and even in that area I don’t think they’ve really stuck to the game plan for 60 minutes since the season opener. The lack of attention to detail and overall team chemistry is pretty frustrating to watch. They’re not giving themselves the best chance to win as a result of their focus level.
Hey, it’s an upward trend from the last game. I’ll take that.
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Oct 11, 2009 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions
I agree – the old “A” for effort stuff is BS, this is the “big leagues” and all that really matters is results.
Nobody plays to be runner up; nobody competes to be awarded “Miss Congeniality” and nobody cares who Pittsburgh beat last year in any series leading up to this summer when Sidney Crosby got to take the Cup to Nova Scotia.
I think that’s why Leonsis and Boudreau are both frustrated and unhappy, they understand all of the above…
by markbona-capsfan99 on Oct 11, 2009 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Breaking up the CareBears
Has to happen. It seems the consensus is to put Knuble on the top line. I’d prefer to see Knuble stay with Morrison and put Semin on their left. For some reason, there seems to be a belief that Semin is not a left wing. But he’s played the left regularly and is even listed as a LW on the Caps web site. He is dangerous from the left as a right-handed shot in the same way Ovie is. Putting him with two disciplined, veteran players might help him mature, and would give them a skilled guy to generate offense. Morrison’s opportunities for assists would explode, and Knuble would have more rebounds to knock home.
Who would go to the top line? I don’t know, but anybody you put there is likely to produce. Why not try Fehr once he gets in game shape? Shoot, put Clark back there and see if there is any magic. If he can’t produce in that position, we’ll know once and for all that he’s done.
For some reason, there seems to be a belief that Semin is not a left wing. But he’s played the left regularly and is even listed as a LW on the Caps web site.
The season preview “bobblehead factory” pullout section from the Post said that Semin plays RW so he doesn’t have to wait on the bench ’til AO comes off the ice. Dunno if that makes any sense, but that was the explanation given.
IS PAĐŻTY NOW
Yes. He plays RW so that briefly as the Caps change from 1st to 2nd line or vice versa the Care Bears get on the ice.
by red army line on Oct 11, 2009 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions
Red Army Line’s comment is correct. Semin is a natural left winger but he’s been moved to right. When he’s with Ovi, that’s his spot. When he’s not on Ovi’s line, they’ve had him line up on the right when Ovi takes the uber long shifts rather than wait for Ovi to get off the ice so he can be on the left.
Who would go to the top line? I don’t know, but anybody you put there is likely to produce. Why not try Fehr once he gets in game shape? Shoot, put Clark back there and see if there is any magic. If he can’t produce in that position, we’ll know once and for all that he’s done.
The right guy to put on the right side of Ovi and Backstrom if you move Semin to 2nd line LW is in my mind Brooks Laich – no doubt about it on my part.
Last season when Fehr was on a line with Ovi and Backstrom, he often was a step behind and looked lost. To my thinking the right third person with OV and Backstrom is either Semin, Laich or Knuble. Semin thinks like Ovechkin and Backstrom so is usually in the right place for more creative plays and when they paly together Backstrom is the guy going to the net lately. If Laich or Knuble are on their right side, then we know who is going to the net and there is a person with them who know how to do it.
I know this will garner dicontent from the Fehr lovers out there but to me he hasn’t proven that he can play at near the same level of any of the three guys I’m proposing or even be a top six forward on this team, yet.
by markbona-capsfan99 on Oct 11, 2009 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions
someday I’ll learn how to use block quotes here..
by markbona-capsfan99 on Oct 11, 2009 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Block quotes are busted in replies to main posts. They’re missing a [/blockquote] close blockquote tag.
They work well in fanposts and fanshots, but someone forgot to put one in here, so you have to add it yourself.
IS PAĐŻTY NOW
If you hit the quote button without highlighting the text then bothstart and end block quote commands show up. Just paste the quoted text between the two commands.
by SeattleCapsFan on Oct 12, 2009 6:03 AM EDT up reply actions
I’m surprised you didn’t think of putting Laich up at first line RW. If Semin’s going to the second line and you’re keeping Knuble and Morrison there, where does Laich go, if Clark or Fehr were to be RW for the first line.
Laich pretty much didn’t play RW all last year. I think some players move over easier than others, and they seem to always keep Laich on the left side when he’s a wing.
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Oct 12, 2009 1:30 AM EDT up reply actions
No moral victories? I can understand the spirit of it, but at this stage of the game, I think you can look for some positives.
First off, it was the Detroit Red Wings, the sine qua non of excellence in ice hockey for over a decade. To my eye, the Caps had their complete attention, too. They buckled down, took care with their passes, and made sure to execute their system. To be sure, the Wings were markedly the superior team, but it was competitive and at The Joe – no shame in dropping a game there.
Second, Theo had a nice game – no softies, some big saves, didn’t get rattled. Maybe he’ll build on this one.
Third, the Caps got beat, but they did not give it away.
On the minus side, the PK is still giving up too much. Mike Green had a bad game on both sides of the ice. Backstrom was silent, and there were precious few scoring chances from the “other” three lines. They got hemmed in their own zone again for long stretches.
We knew coming in that the opening schedule was brutal. In fact, I was hoping for 5 points out of the first 5 games, figuring they could sneak an OT point out of either Boston or Philly, beat Toronto and NYR, and go down to the Wings. No time to panic. They have room to improve, but they’ve also got time to do it.
"You're gonna eat that g**d**n Koho, three!"
Thank you
But I’m shocked there’s someone else here who hasn’t jumped off a building yet.
Which is acceptable if you’re a Redskins fan.
Which some Wizards fans probably did after the Dallas game.
Seriously, everybody needs to chill. What’s so different about Semin from last year? He’s going to win us games and lose us games, and I’m long past the point of expecting much different from him. I’m not sure how long I’ll be able to remain zen-like, but I damn sure can for longer than five games.
I’m much more worried about Green, but it’s nothing a three point game wouldn’t fix, I’m pretty sure.
If only that awesome play between Green and AO had gone in – that would have gotten it into his head that he’s still a great player who can make plays. That was a beautiful play.
by DrinkingPartner on Oct 11, 2009 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh Well, It was Game #5
Game #5 has not been good to the Capitals. In the team’s history they are now 7-26-1-1 with 98 goals for and 160 goals against. For whatever reason the Caps do not play well in this game.
it’s a fun, random fact, though.
"Let the rest be scared of us." - Sasha Semin
by Scott in Shaw on Oct 11, 2009 6:35 PM EDT up reply actions
From Vogel’s recap:
"You just take those dumb penalties and they’re going to cost you in the end," laments Caps bench boss Bruce Boudreau. "And they did. The last two goals were obviously power play goals. You can kill the first two or three, [but] I knew that when we got the fourth one – because it was a bad penalty – that it was going to cost us.
And the first goal was effectively a PPG as well. The Caps had just killed two consecutive Wings power plays (beautifully), but the PK unit was still on the ice and it was gassed.
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Oct 11, 2009 12:41 PM EDT reply actions
I meant for the NJ game – Martan Brodeur.
But Brawndo's got what plants crave. It's got electrolytes.
I assumed you were referring to one of our guys and, last time I checked, neither Theodore nor Varlamov were known as Fatso. (I know they’ve been having issues, as of late.)
Also, must admit, I have not been keeping track of Martin Brodeur’s weight.
Marty’s always been on the bigger side, although I have no idea if that’s his natural build, or he’s got a bacon addiction. Nonetheless, its something that’s dogged him his entire career. “Fatso” jokes abound.
Theo and Varly are both rather slim. Theo’s actually shockingly tiny (although not Mary St. Louis small) in street clothes. Its always a bit weird to see goalies without all their pads, but Theo looks so average. He’s probably one of the last of the “small” goalies playing in the NHL.
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by crabchowdah on Oct 11, 2009 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Theo looked great. Green lost the game. Weak call, but it’s just inexcusable to take a penalty late in the 3rd of a tie game. I’m tempted to tune back in in January and see how things are going. 60 should get another start tomorrow, imo.
One of the things that’s been taking away from games in the last few years is the stick calls. They need to go back to the way it was. What any game from the 70s, 80s, 90s on NHL Network and you’ll see what kinds of hooks, etc., these players had to fight through.
But Brawndo's got what plants crave. It's got electrolytes.
When I think top of my NHL wishlist, I think more legal obstruction and less skilled defense. Yum!
by Knee high to a duck on Oct 12, 2009 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Wait, you actually want a bunch of no talent 4th liners to be able to hold up stars like AO by constantly hooking and holding them? How in the world would that make the game better or more entertaining?
Of all our iniquities ignorance may be the worst
by Killer_Carlson on Oct 12, 2009 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Nice. That post was up for a looong time before anyone caught that one.
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